From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1027 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, August 10 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1027 In This Digest: (exotica) The Langley Schools Music Project Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices (exotica) "Look like Spumco" (exotica) FFJ Re: (exotica) "Music For Gracious Living" (exotica) [obit] Lorenzo Music, Lars Johan Werle,Billy Byrd, Jeanne Loriod, John Orvis RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices (exotica) Fluffertrax! RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter (exotica) Bossa on Ebay Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices (exotica) [obits] Peter Hirsch, Alan Rafkin (exotica) Tom - Epilogue Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices (exotica) [obit] Billy Byrd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:29:46 -0400 From: "R. Schultz" Subject: (exotica) The Langley Schools Music Project Are any of you familiar with this Langley Schools Music Project done in the mid-70s in Canada? I'm sure you are because you're always way ahead of me. I just heard some of it for the first time, and it's just wonderful. Almost kind of magical the various sounds and arrangements they use, combined with the simple children's voices. I'm kinda blown away by it. If you need more information about it, I found this link: http://www.bastamusic.com/langley/index.htm Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 15:47:15 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices > >> P.S. My question is about the rarity and demand for Brazilian bossa nova >> albums. I don't mean to elicit more screeds about e-bay. > > This is probably not a very helpful answer in that it states the > self-evident.. but there are genres in which records often fall below the > radar, genres in which they sometimes fall below the radar and genres in > which they seldom do. And Brazilian music is in the third category. > To a great degree, it's DJ-driven. DJ's feel like they have to have the > records that other DJ's have. On the contrary, your answer was very helpful (and not self-evident to me, although the "genre & radar" sentence lost me for a while). On a recent trip to what remains of King Kini's Club Velvet site I took a look at his photographs of DJ-ing and suddenly realized that I've reached a stage in which I am 100% out of touch with entire "genres" of popular culture--and the DJ scene is one of them. What you describe in your explanation would never have crossed my mind (I hope a result of ignorance rather than aptitude). I suppose I need to get out more. Thanks again, Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:50:38 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) "Look like Spumco" >Not that this is news. Half of CN's new shows have the Shag look (the other >half look like Spumco). -m.ace mace@ookworld.com Hold out for the real magilla! John K's series, "The Ripping Friends" debuts on Fox Kids on Sept 15th at 10am PST and 11 ET. Canadians will get preferential treatment. They can watch "Ripping Friends" in primetime on Teletoon, starting Friday Sept. 7th. It's worth setting the VCR timer for. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:15:51 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) FFJ Found at the dementia newsgroup: There was this NYC society lady in the 1920's, Florence Foster Jenkins, who had enough money to sponsor her own recitals and, sorta like Tiny Tim, became a camp star. pnm://media.cbc.ca/radio/programs/asithappens/real/pt2-01-08-07-aih.ra and seek to 42:30. ========== Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:27:22 -0400 From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Re: (exotica) "Music For Gracious Living" "Domenic Ciccone" writes: >These are on the Columbia label. And are they related to the "Music for >Better Living" series have heard about? Where Peter L got the name for his >show? I came up with the name bycombining "Music for Gracious Living" and "Better Living Through..." As far as I know there is no Music for Better LIving series. Peter - ------ Music for Better Living Wed 6-7pm -- 90.3fm Newton/Boston www.hifibliss.com/mfbl/ zbconline.com <--- live streaming audio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:52:52 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Lorenzo Music, Lars Johan Werle,Billy Byrd, Jeanne Loriod, John Orvis Full obit at http://www.povonline.com/News080501.htm=20 which also includes a picture: Lorenzo Music AUGUST 5, 2001 =20 A very talented writer and actor named Lorenzo Music died yesterday= following months of brutal, heart-breaking illness. He was , like his distinctive, well-known speaking voice, unique. Those who cast him as a voiceover performer often said that just to hear him, no matter what the script or ad copy, was curiously comforting and satisfying. That was absolutely true,= and it was an extension of the man himself. He walked through life with a= warming aura of creativity about him...one that enveloped all who came near. To be= in his presence was to feel smarter, wittier, more creative and, of course, happier, all by osmosis. He had so many gifts, one body could not contain them all. They were always leaking out, enriching others. In 1967, he switched from performing to writing when he joined the staff of= the legendary Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour on CBS =E2=80=94 although he managed= to occasionally sneak onto camera, often with his banjo or ukulele.=20 <> see also: http://www.lorenzomusic.com/swf.html and=20 http://web.duluthnews.com/content/duluth/2001/08/06/local/du_MUSIC0806.htm - ------- =20 STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - Lars Johan Werle, a self-taught composer who wrote= the scores to Ingmar Bergman's films ``Persona'' and ``Hour of the Wolf,'' has died. He was 75.=20 Werle started his career singing in choirs and working as a jazz musician.= He was a music producer at Swedish Radio from 1958 to 1970, then he taught at= the Royal College of Opera in Stockholm and the Goteborg College of Music.=20 In 1960, he won first prize at the Gaudeamus festival in Bilthoven, the Netherlands, for his ``Pentagram'' composition for string quartet, but it= was when he began to work with the human voice that his creativity bloomed.=20 ``The prize made him very popular and I believe that it was then that= Bergman found him,'' said Fredrik Oesterling, one of Werle's pupils in Goteborg.= ``He has done a lot for the musical drama in Sweden.''=20 Werle wrote the music for two of Bergman's late 1960s classics - ``Persona'' and ``Hour of the Wolf.''=20 Other works by Werle included ``The Dream about Therese'' and ``Canzone 126= di Francesco Petrarca'' for mixed choir, which has been performed by several Swedish and international choirs.=20 At the time of his death, he and his wife, Vera, were working on a musical= for children, based on the fairy tale ``The Ugly Duckling.''=20 Werle died after a long illness on Aug. 3 in Goteborg, in southwestern= Sweden. Survivors included four sons from an earlier marriage.=20 - ----- Billy Byrd of the Texas Trubadors passed away morning Aug 7 BUS Janice http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/3886/index.html Moderator(country music) Steel Guitar Forum http://www.steelguitarforum.com/ - ------- There's a German report that French musician and master of the Ondes=20 Martenot, Jeanne Loriod, has died. Few details were given... neither where= =20 nor when she died. She was the sister-in-law of late French composer=20 Olivier=20 Messiaen, who featured the OM in several of his compositions. For those unfamiliar , the Ondes Martenot is an=20 electronic instrument that produces sounds similar to the tuning of an old= =20 tube radio, only much magnified. Similar to the Theremin. Here's a site with more info -- http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/machines/martenot/ - -------- Did my obit of Larry Adler make it to the list?? - --------- French Actor Belmondo Suffers Stroke on Holiday AJACCIO, Corsica (Reuters) - French film star Jean-Paul Belmondo suffered a suspected stroke on Wednesday while on holiday on the Mediterranean island The 68-year-old actor was flown by helicopter to hospital in the town of Bastia from a small village in northern Corsica in the morning, but by late afternoon doctors had decided he could be transferred by plane to Paris at the request of his family. - -------- John Orvis, b. 7-28-36, Glendale CA, d. 7-1-01, Ojai CA. =20 Blues, r&r guitar player and vocalist, first record with Sessionaires, "Boogie Boo" released in early 1950s. Also recorded as Johnny Wilde on Coronet label, played with local blues talent that morphed into Canned Heat into the 1960s. Member of Galopping Gooses Motorcyle Club, wrote "East L.A.," recorded by Bob Arlin. Also member of Smoke (Uni), John Orivs Blues Band. Wrote varous songs, lived in Ojai since 1971, known as "The Original Ojai Blues Man." - --------- Man Survives Volcano Crater Fall (or, Goddess Pele misses an opportunity) VOLCANOES NATIONAL PARK, Hawaii (AP) -- A 26-year-old Navy man was= rescuedafter he fell 85 feet into the summit crater of Kilauea Volcano while trying to retrieve his baseball cap, park officials said.=20 After he was pulled from the crater on Sunday, Lt. j.g. Scott W. Larson= walked to a waiting ambulance and was taken to a hospital for treatment of a broken toe, cuts and bruises, Hawaii Volcanoes National Park ranger Mardie Lane= said.=20 A paramedic and park ranger were lowered by rope and harness to retrieve= Larson from a tree that had broken his fall, and all three were raised to safety.= =20 Were it not for the tree, Larson would have fallen another 100 feet, rangers said.=20 Larson and two companions were standing next to a safety railing when his= cap blew off and disappeared over the crater's rim, Lane said. He climbed= through the railings and was attempting to retrieve the cap by reaching over the= edge when he slipped and fell.=20 "Park railings are there for a reason,'' said Ranger Jeff Kracht, the park's search and rescue coordinator. "Is it worth risking your life and the lives= of rescue personnel for a $10 baseball cap?'' Kilauea has been erupting since January 3, 1983. The accident happened= about 12 miles from the eruption site. AP-NY / 08-06-01 08:23 EDT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:28:32 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices Alans answers bear out what I've heard as well. When I started looking for Ed Lincoln records a couple of years back 'Cochise' was a popular tune with the Jazz Dance DJ's here and the LP with it on was re-issued by someone, (Its one of the eponymously titled ones). And so OK that LP is reasonably priced for a new record, but if you look at say Dusty Groove everything else he's done knocks out at 30-40 dollars. I have a friend from Argentina (Hi Christian if you're lurking again) who came over to the UK and bought several LP's for me, but he said a lot of Bossa was leaving South America for Japan, and it was driving up domestic prices too. It seems that Bossa is not massively popular in its homeland. Before the Japanese interest prices were very low. When I played some to an international students party a summer or two ago they said it was nice to hear Brazilian music but did I have something that wasn't such Grandma music. And really from the point of view of taking the music away and driving up the prices 'we' are all 'Japanese' really. I'd just like to say that I didn't buy the Ed Lincoln because I'd heard that Cochise was fashionable, but because I'd heard 'O Ganso' while walking past a record shop and had to have it. Of course the only reason they were playing the LP was because of Cochise. So is that a sheep by second degree? Not that I'm feeling got at you understand. Geoff El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:11:53 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices Reading Alan's post on the reasons for expensive Brazilian records, I get the impression (again) of paranoia seeping in. Who exactly are these DJs who are driving the prices of Brazilian records up? Are there thousands of Samba and Bossa nights springing up in the nightclubs of the world? Is there suddenly a massive rave culture emerging that requires DJs to buy up Brazilian records? I for one don't know of any Brazilian nights and most of the Latin music I do hear played out is part of smaller sets in the occasional bar. How many Japanese people do you know Alan? Do they all want to pay massive amounts of cash for Brazilian records? Do you see them out in Toronto with great piles of Brazilian LPs under their arms? Surely an expensive record is a combination of desirability and scarcity. The idea that certain groups of sinister people are somehow conspiring to price us out of a market is pathetic. Of course if someone hears a good record they'll try to find it for themselves. That Tamba 4 record is expensive, its worth owning and it probably became more expensive when tracks from it appeared on compilation albums like the Dancefloor Jazz LPs. I know a few people who would pay for it and a few people who regularly sell records like that for high prices. Guess what. None of them are Japanese and only one is a DJ (and he's actually a journalist who plays at the odd party). Beware the Japs and the DJs! They're coming to ruin your record collecting! What's next? The commies? The Chinese? The Brits? Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N18JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 09:08:51 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Fluffertrax! There's a great site on Live 365 called Fluffertrax - all porn soundtrack = music - great vintage stuff. This guy was on a local radio station this a.m. - he's spent like 7 years = amassing a collection of material. Check it out! - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:52:26 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices At 10:11 AM 8/9/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > >Reading Alan's post on the reasons for expensive Brazilian records, I get >the impression (again) of paranoia seeping in. Who exactly are these DJs who >are driving the prices of Brazilian records up?.>How many Japanese people do you know Alan? Do they all want to pay massive >amounts of cash for Brazilian records? Do you see them out in Toronto with >great piles of Brazilian LPs under their arms? . You're right, I'm a racist. But that doesn't change the fact that in fact I do know who these DJ's are and if you'd like me to name them, I can start with the names of the five guys who form a fairly popular collective here named Movement. I can also name one of them, who just happens to be Japanese himself and who owns a used record store which caters almost exclusively to his fellow DJ's and to his former countrymen. I guess he didn't know how much I hated him and his kind when he told me that he makes frequent trips back to his former homeland in order to sell records and that he has many mail order customers there. And maybe he was just being metaphorical when I asked him "How come that record is so expensive?" and he told me "Because I can get twice that in Japan". Maybe it is just a racist conspiracy theory. About 15 years ago, on a visit to Los Angeles, I returned to my favorite used clothing store in Malibu only to find that the Hawaiian shirts which had been ten bucks were suddenly going for a hundred bucks. When I asked the clerk what happened, he told me that the demand by Japanese tourists had driven the prices up. Even at the time, I thought to myself "That's what they said about the Jews in Germany!" If my forebearers hadn't been so wild for Hawaiian shirts, perhaps six million more would be alive today. I guess you're offended on behalf of DJ's more than Japanese, Charles. Well that one I won't take back. It's the butterfly effect, like I said. One DJ plays the cool cut and half way around the world, ten more DJ's - and pseudo DJ's - suddenly NEED that record. I've worked in a used record store. And I've not only seen actual Japanese "tourists" buying up everything in sight, without regard to cost but I've also dealt with DJ types who all seem to want the exact same records. Bob James first record because De La Soul sampled it. Not Bob James 2 or 3 or 4. Just the first one. That one Sun Ra record. Not the ones he put out himself on his own label but that one that has that funky cut. I'm not saying all DJ's are sheep. It couldn't be so. Somewhere there's a DJ who for instance, went through his Shirley Bassey records and found out that her version of "Light my fire" is actually pretty groovy. The problem is that a week after he played it, suddenly there was a Shirley Bassey record that cost thirty bucks instead of five. And now it's five again. It's over. That cut isn't groovy anymore. That's what happens when every single DJ in town just happens to have the same Shirley Bassey record. It doesn't take armies of Japanese and DJ's to drive up the price. It just takes a few record dealers who are tapped in to that market and who understand just how much one of these people will pay for a record that's suddenly become hot. >Beware the Japs and the DJs! They're coming to ruin your record collecting! Not necessarily. If you're "lucky" enough to be looking for records that don't fall into the categories which interest Japanese collectors and DJ's, you're fine. Otherwise, yeah they will ruin it. Until like sheep, they move on and graze somewhere else. Then again, maybe you could question why you're looking for the same records they are. Or you could make do with CD's. Or you could decide, like I did once upon a time, to only like the records you can find at thrift stores. Sometimes you can actually find a record they want. I got Joe Cain's "Latin Explosion" there. It's a forty dollar record here. It's also actually a very groovy record and I don't blame the DJ's for liking it. Trouble is that when you hear the especially groovy records, your tastes refine and the next thing you know you're turning Japanese. Sayonara AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 13:51:35 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go The 1966 Thunderbirds feature film, "Thunderbirds Are Go" is listed on TCM at 8:00am (eastern), this coming Sunday morning. This is the one with the Super-Marionated guest appearance by Cliff & The Shadows. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 14:03:28 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter Ah, yes! Cliff Richard, JR. and the Shadows; it does take place in the future, you know. Funny how the Shadows don't age and Cliff Richard has a son. Gives the musical bit a sort of timeless qual...ANYhow, while it does feature the great music of Barry Gray, it doesn't have the exact take of the "Thunderbirds" theme song, a mild harrumph. The DVD does have the original versions on it, most of the time. One of the episodes on the first set is redubbed (lost the old soundtrack?). For those who haven't seen it, do. The print that has been hitting cable lately is very good. F. A. umm....err..B. Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:23:51 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Bossa on Ebay >Yesterday I typed in a search at e-bay on "bossa" out of curiosity at what >would come up and was surprised at the flurry of high-end bidding going on >for Brazilian albums. Someone is unloading a collection, and more than a >few of the items have exceeded the $80 range and $100 mark (sorry, but >that's in the area of the impossible for me). I wasn't surprised to see >that some of the same people are bidding for the most hotly contested >records (although the number of bidders with a history of fewer than 10 >purchases looks suspicious), but I had no idea that this was a hot market. >Does anybody know about this? I thought the auctions for music library >albums was competitive, but this seems far worse. > >Clayton Bossa is a bid deal in Japan which might be part of the reason for the mounting bids on Ebay. Japan has been one of the biggest consumers of Brasilian music for quite some time, long before American hipsters "discovered" the whole Tropicalia movement. But after people tired of the limitations of Veloso and his ilk, and since MPB is harder to embrace (it's not political, it isn't really edgy, it's fairly lightweight) and people haven't really been able to get into it, it's easier to go back to basics. I think for middle of the road tastes, you can always count on bossa, because if it's bossa, it's going to have a fairly basic, somewhat predictable style. It's far easier to go wrong with a Gal Costa record than a Tom Jobim record, for example, if you don't know a lot about Brasilian music. But there are a lot of reissues out there. $184 for an Os 3 Morais album is crazy, unless, you know, you're a collector who just has to have a first edition, etc., etc. Then again a lot of records are much harder to find, and if you're a diehard, say, Edu Lobo fan, sometimes you have to take what you can get. Brasil is still very much a third world country, and you can sometimes go through crates and crates of vinyl until you can find something in very good condition (in my experience), so that's another reason I would theorize on a lot of vinyl going for high prices. As with any kind of music, it helps to know what's out there before you shell out big bucks on something and find yourself saddled with something not so good just because it has some bossa songs, like a Maria Bethania record. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:40:21 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter >Ah, yes! Cliff Richard, JR. and the Shadows; it does take place in the >future, you know. Funny how the Shadows don't age and Cliff Richard has a >son. Gives the musical bit a sort of timeless qual... Technically, they appear in a dream occurring in the wooden noggin of one of the Tracy boys. So maybe he was an oldies fan? >ANYhow, while it does feature the great music of Barry Gray, it doesn't >have the exact take of the "Thunderbirds" theme song, a mild harrumph. I recall a live-action title sequence with a marching band doing a, uh, marching band arrangement of the theme. >For those who haven't seen it, do. The print that has been hitting cable >lately is very good. The TCM web schedule claims that it will be in wide-screen letterbox format. - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:10:15 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: RE: (exotica) Bossa Prices is it really the japanese people that are driving the prices up or is it the fact that our dollar (USD) is pretty lame in comparison to the yen? isn't that fault of our politcal/economic/corporate mentality or whatever is at fault for such a state of the almighty dollar? and isn't it the greedy merchants that would sell their grandmother and even their soul if the price was right? disregarding loyal customers and what is fair while salivating at the thought of a japanese record collector looking his or her way.? (with capitalism this is considered a GOOD thing) japan seems are fortunate enough to have incredible economic power that makes the most of us look puny. we should pressure our elected officials to empower our currency, just for the reason to bring those record prices down! but what the hell do i know. bump >>Beware the Japs and the DJs! They're coming to ruin your record collecting! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:33:22 -0400 From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:10:15 -0400 bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) writes: > japan seems are fortunate enough to have incredible economic power > that makes the most of us look puny. The Japanese economy is actually in the midst of incredible turmoil right now, and has been for awhile. The image of a thriving Japanese economy is actually a bit antiquated. Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:56:35 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices like i said, what do i know. just wondering why the us dollar does not go a long way in japan? and why merchants cater to the japanese tourists. i suppose many people still have this image. i just got back from Cambodia and Indonesia. the street merchants attack us only when there are no japanese around. when they show up, poof, they run straight to the japanese tourists. much to my relief. my point, you can't blame the japanese people for high record prices. its not there fault there money SEEMS to be in a better state than ours. its like blaming the Mink for the prices of their coats. i guess mink coats are antiquated too. ;) but what do i care. i would never pay an outrageous sum for a record anymore anyway. i have plenty to trade or sell. bumpanova >> japan seems are fortunate enough to have incredible economic power >> that makes the most of us look puny. > >The Japanese >On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:10:15 -0400 bump@defectiverecords.com >(Bump >Stadelman) writes: economy is actually in the midst of incredible turmoil >right >now, and has been for awhile. The image of a thriving Japanese economy is >actually a bit antiquated. ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ buMp "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 22:17:02 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter At 03:40 PM 08/09/2001, I wrote: >I recall a live-action title sequence with a marching band doing a, uh, >marching band arrangement of the theme. Or maybe that was at the beginning of the second movie, "Thunderbird Six". bird is the word, - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:53:15 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go "m.ace" schrieb: > The 1966 Thunderbirds feature film, "Thunderbirds Are Go" is listed on TCM > at 8:00am (eastern), this coming Sunday morning. This is the one with the > Super-Marionated guest appearance by Cliff & The Shadows. it's so great! Mo - -- ........................................................................ studio ® http://moritzR.de tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:50:19 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices Charles Moseley schrieb: > Reading Alan's post on the reasons for expensive Brazilian records, I get > the impression (again) of paranoia seeping in. Who exactly are these DJs who > are driving the prices of Brazilian records up? Are there thousands of Samba > and Bossa nights springing up in the nightclubs of the world? partly yes. anything latino, brazil, samba seems to be very hip again and that is hip to a more mass-oriented crowd = many DJs. on the other hand I think - and this includes numerous visits of american/canadian thrift and record shops since 1979 - that records from Brazil are simply rare. I bought maybe 400 records on the american continent and there was literally none from Brazil. Mo ........................................................................ studio ® http://moritzR.de tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:37:19 -0400 From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Peter Hirsch, Alan Rafkin Peter Hirsch NEW YORK (AP) -- Peter Hirsch, who developed the Muriel Cigars commercials featuring Edie Adams, died of thyroid cancer July 29. He was 65. Hirsch, chairman and creative director at Calet Hirsch, supervised the cigar campaign in which Adams sings, ``Why don't you pick one up and smoke it sometime?'' His firm also created ads for Kmart, Toshiba and Stolichnaya vodka. In 1989, Hirsch developed a TV commercial promoting early cancer screenings from the American Cancer Society for the Advertising Council. Alan Rafkin LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Emmy winner Alan Rafkin, the self-described curmudgeon who directed many of television's most popular comedies during a career spanning four decades, died Monday of heart disease. He was 73. His directing credits include ``The Dick Van Dyke Show,'' ``The Andy Griffith Show,'' ``The Mary Tyler Moore Show,'' `I Dream of Jeannie,'' ``Murphy Brown,'' ``M-A-S-H,'' ``The Love Boat,'' ``Laverne & Shirley,'' ``Suddenly Susan,'' ``Veronica's Closet'' and ``The Jeff Foxworthy Show.'' Rafkin won an Emmy in 1982 for an episode of ``One Day at a Time'' and two Cable ACE awards, in 1988 and 1990, for ``It's Gary Shandling's Show.'' In all, he directed episodes for more than 80 prime-time series. Rafkin, who began as a nightclub comic, also acted in prime-time series and soap operas and directed a handful of movies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:52:45 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: (exotica) Tom - Epilogue Weirdly enough, after the Tom Jones recommendations last week I suddenly found both the LPs Tom Jones Sings 13 Hits and At-Tom-Ic, both 50p in charity shops. 13 Hits - with Tom in a laurel wreath against a red background has one side of sweet soul and one side of rocking motown-esq soul. What a great find for 50p. The rocking side is very upbeat, well arranged with big horns, great bass, some proper instrumental pop drums and Tom not too loud in the mix. I'd never put any of these on a comp (pure bigotry) but the LP as a whole is fantastic. At-Tom-Ic I haven't listened to yet. Charlie Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N18JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:58:11 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Thunderbirds Are Go, or a little Gray matter At 10:17 PM 8/9/2001 -0400, you wrote: >At 03:40 PM 08/09/2001, I wrote: >>I recall a live-action title sequence with a marching band doing a, uh, >>marching band arrangement of the theme. > >Or maybe that was at the beginning of the second movie, "Thunderbird Six". I haven't seen "Thunderbird 6" in years. I just saw TAG about a week ago and it definitely ends with a marching band playing the theme. They march and play, eventually forming the word "Thunderbirds". Afterwards, is a funny disclaimer! Is the Man on the Moon looking down on me? Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:32:48 -0400 From: "Br.Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Prices on 8/9/01 5:11 AM, Charles Moseley at charlesm@contentrepublic.com wrote: > > Reading Alan's post on the reasons for expensive Brazilian records, I get > the impression (again) of paranoia seeping in. Who exactly are these DJs who > are driving the prices of Brazilian records up? Are there thousands of Samba > and Bossa nights springing up in the nightclubs of the world? Is there > suddenly a massive rave culture emerging that requires DJs to buy up > Brazilian records? I'm doing a weekly one in NYC and about to start 2 more in Boston shortly. And I'm opening for Bebel Gilberto tonight at a sold out show. But there are a few reasons for the prices on these albums. One is scarcity - - original bossa albums on now legendary labels like Elenco and Forma rarely made their way out of Brazil, and were usually pressed in very limited quantities. Another reason is that samba house is one of the fasted growing genres of electronic dance music; a year ago there was maybe a new title every month, now there's 50 a week. Samba house nights are flourishing in NYC, San Francisco, and Tokyo. Obviously finding new sample sources, especially on out of print recordings, is imperative. Yet another scene with a heavy bossa influence is the nujazz sound of labels like Schema, Compost, Stereo Deluxe, etc. Germany, Italy and Japan definitely have the most interest in Brazilian music (and Caipirinha cocktails are easy to find in Germany!) As a regular ebay bidder on Brazilian recordings, I note that many of the winning bidders are infact Japanese. Bossa/samba has always been popular in Japan (and Rio has a large Japanese population); it has many similarities to soft rock, also quite popular in Japan. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:04:23 -0400 From: lousmith@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit] Billy Byrd Wednesday, 08/08/01 Versatile guitarist Billy Byrd dies at 81 By PETER COOPER Staff Writer Billy Byrd, whose lead guitar work was a defining element in most of Ernest Tubb's 1950s recordings, died yesterday of natural causes at age 81. He had been in poor health after suffering a stroke in February. A Nashville native, Mr. Byrd was adept at playing simple, highly commercial, melodic country leads for Tubb, but he was also well-respected for his jazzy flights of virtuosity. He emulated the jazz sounds of players such as Charlie Christian and Django Reinhardt, and he tutored Nashville session greats including Hank Garland and Harold Bradley. ''Without him coming along and showing us that jazz stuff, we never would have been able to do what we did,'' said Bradley, who considered Byrd his best friend. ''When I was 14, Billy was dating a girl down the street from me, and he'd come over with two guitars and show me jazz licks. ''At one time he was the best pop jazz player in town, and he had a great influence on me and Hank (Garland) and a lot of people, both as a friend and as a guitar player.'' Mr. Byrd played with Nashville pop bands as a teen-ager and recorded with Herald Goodman's Grand Ole Opry group in 1938. After taking time off to serve in World War II, he played with Western swing and country acts. By 1949, he was making regular Opry appearances with Little Jimmy Dickens and George Morgan. He played guitar on Dickens' first Columbia recording session, which yielded hits Take An Old Cold Tater and Wait and A-Sleeping At The Foot of the Bed. Mr. Byrd also appeared on recordings by Jimmy C. Newman, Johnny Horton, Webb Pierce, Leon Russell and others. Tubb hired him as a member of his Texas Troubadours backing band in mid-1949. ''Billy came from a pop and jazz background, and there were some people who were leery of the notion that he could play country with Tubb,'' said Ronnie Pugh, Tubb's biographer. ''But ... he did it and did it well. The 10 years Billy was in the band, he did practically all of the instrumental breaks.'' Tubb often introduced Mr. Byrd's solos in concert and on record by saying, ''Aw, Billy Byrd now'' or ''Take it away, Billy Byrd.'' Mr. Byrd became a celebrated instrumentalist, and he and Hank Garland worked together to design the semi-hollow-body Gibson Byrdland electric guitar. Mr. Byrd left Tubb's band in 1959, rejoining twice in the 1960s and 1970s. He also recorded three solo albums with Warner Bros. When not on the road and not playing in Nashville clubs, he could often be found driving cabs. Visitation will be held 6-9 p.m. today at Mount Olivet Chapel and Cemetery on Lebanon Pike and 9 a.m.-1:30 p.m. tomorrow at Mount Olivet. A funeral service will be at 2 p.m. tomorrow at Mount Olivet, with burial to follow at Mount Olivet. Surviving family members include his wife, Glenna C. Byrd; four daughters, Beverly Byrd Holley, Charlotte Wright, Billie Wilburn and Barbara Boswell; eight grandchildren; and a great-grandchild. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1027 ******************************