From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1038 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, September 3 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1038 In This Digest: (exotica) Now Sound Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2 RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight (exotica) Weird Flash Videos (exotica) Fwd: Re: Hello Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery Re: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery RE: (exotica) racism shmacism RE: (exotica) racism shmacism RE: (exotica) racism shmacism RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos (exotica) Petty Booka? Re: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell RE: (exotica) racism shmacism RE: (exotica) Petty Booka? (exotica) how to beat the high cost of living (stereo) RE: (exotica) racism shmacism (exotica) scores this summer (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend (exotica) [obits] Jane Greer, Philippe Leotard,Frank Emilio Flynn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 01:56:38 +0000 From: thinkmatic@att.net Subject: (exotica) Now Sound The first place I saw the term “Now Sound” was on a Brass Ring album, so for me the term has always carried with it the connotation of groovy dance music with a bouncy back beat, à la Herb Alpert & TJB, The Brass Ring, The Bob Crewe Generation, the T-Bones and Xavier Cugat’s last 4 albums on Decca. The term Go-go music pretty much describes what I think of as Now Sound. While I love “Warren Kime's Brass Impact” the intensity of the music almost takes them out of the realm of Now Sound for me, although they get close on occasion. Also for the Claus Ogerman albums that seem the most Nowsy, I’d go with Saxes Mexicanos and Watusi Trumpets. The acid test I use for a song being Now Sound, is if you close your eyes while your listening to it and you think you might be listening to sound-track music from the television show Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In then your listening to The Now Sound. More Now later, Roy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:15:32 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, September 2 Ironically, we have this soudtrack, and are playing it on the show - as the last piece! It accidentally got missed when I cut and pasted the playlist!!! So, the revised playlist has this as the last item: Berry Lipman: Star Maidens Theme "Star Maidens" cheryl From: > Ooh, you really need to track down Berry Lippmann's sdtrk for "Star Maidens" > - great German 70s sci-fi music. Worth it just for the vocal, "Sex World." > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Waugh Subject: RE: (exotica) Claudine & Out of Sight Sonny Jim, Thanks for the pun and the info. Don't know no Kahime Karie. Am I missing out? - --- JamesBGerwitz wrote: ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 17:01:46 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the performers are? This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ This seems to be a French children's song: http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations repeatedly. - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 19:47:00 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Re: Hello - ---- Begin Included Message ---- Just to let you guys know...Magnus is alive and well. From: "Magnus Sandberg" Sent: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:47:11 +0200 (CEST) To: colleen7@ireland.com Subject: Re: Hello citerar Colleen Pyles : > hi Magnus, > Just wanted you to know I miss your postings on the list. =A0I know you > are busy with your job, but I sure do miss your opinions. > Colleen > =A0from the exotica list > > > =A0Colleen Hi Colleen! I am writing this email in Norway, Kautokeino. I am very busy with work, but I will join the exotica list later this year when this work is finished. Take care Magnus - ---- End Included Message ---- Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 22:15:09 -0400 From: Carl Howard Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Lapin means Rabbit. But that isn't what should be worrying you. THIS is= what needs to be worrying you: http://www.jocke.com/azar_habib/hatten.swf . Matt Marchese wrote: > Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flas= h > animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the > performers are? > > This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ > > This seems to be a French children's song: > > http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html > > Obviously, bunnies are a common theme here. Any help with identity or > translation will be much appreciated and may help reduce the pesky > swelling in my brain that occurred after watching both these animations= > repeatedly. > > -- > Matt Marchese - -- Peace Out Choppa Choppa Bang Bang Hack=FC Maim=FC Where's da WUV=99? Sun Ra on your PC... The CyberSpace Ministry http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dlitlgrey or go to http://live365.com Search keyword: Sun Ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:04:52 -0500 From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Matt Marchese wrote: > > Okay, I'm really intrigued by the music in these two, rather Dada, Flash > animations. Since they're uncredited, can anyone tell me who the > performers are? > > This is some sort of Swedish kazoo/ukulele combo: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta/ The ominous-sounding German dude at the start is from Rammstein. There are also credits to Robert Manuel and the nation of Sweden. So who's Robert Manuel? I'm afraid to look, but learn more at: http://www.manuel.org.uk/ > > This seems to be a French children's song: > > http://www.yomgaille.com/bordel/un_lapin.html > This one has the following credits at the end... "Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that... For those who understand French, go to: http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm - -Indy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:16:16 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv". Is that Roy G. Biv? AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:19:59 EDT From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Boards of Canada mystery In a message dated 9/3/01 12:11:42 AM, azed@pathcom.com writes: << There's a cut on a Boards of Canada CD called "roygbiv". Is that Roy G. Biv? >> Yep. Great, spooky album, by the way. - --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:35:33 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Records are going for that kind of money because someone somewhere is willing to pay that much for that record. Exactly! But if I'm looking for someone to blame for the high price of some records, I will look to the people willing to pay those high prices. Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? I love a good debate! Especially when I thought it had all died away. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:46:17 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .> >Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? >Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? . Anecdotal evidence is my middle name. Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just say "Nobody eat that plant". Now we appoint a commission to study the matter. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:04:40 +0100 From: Charles Moseley Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? No. We could go on all day with this........ I hope. But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the price of said records to rise. I don't think I need to use examples of powerful people who have blamed racial groups for economic and social problems - it's easy to get the masses onto your side by inventing a common enemy that people can easily visualise and despise. For instance can you get us all to picture in our heads: 1. Japanese record buyers (simple, we've all seen them in shops and at fairs) 2. DJs (easy, we all have an image of the DJ with his amazing record box that we'd love to get a look at - there must be some good shit in there, etc etc.) 3. People who buy Brazilian records (ummmm. Could be anyone!) So blame the racial or professional group rather than speak the truth. It's much easier. Cheers all. Charles Moseley Editor - C3 magazine 3 St Peters Street, London, N1 8JD Tel: +44 (0)20 7704 3313 Fax: +44 (0)20 7226 8586 ISDN: +44 (0)20 7359 6756 www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com www.c3mag.com - -----Original Message----- From: alan zweig [mailto:azed@pathcom.com] Sent: 03 September 2001 14:46 To: exotica@xmission.com Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism At 10:35 AM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .> >Exactly - but how do you know who they are? Have you done a survey? >Research? Or based your knowledge on occasional anecdotal evidence? . Anecdotal evidence is my middle name. Charles, you're not the kind of guy that asks everyone to preface their statements with "In my opinion", are you? In a book called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television", the author pointed out that three hundred years ago, if native Americans walked into the forest and two of them ate a strange plant and died, they'd just say "Nobody eat that plant". Now we appoint a commission to study the matter. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:18:18 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? = ;=AC) And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. = Theres popular music and serious music. It may be interesting to discuss when = Jazz jumped from one to the other (if it has). Serious music has always = been music that appeals to the educated middle classes, and that old low = brow popular music has always been that which the working classes enjoy. = Its a simple matter of snobbery. And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville = music is serious.... El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com djcheesemaster@netscape.net grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ > For the first half of the 20th century, popular music *was* > serious music. The ghettoisation of popular music has only been > since the British Invasion when marketing became more important than > the music. >=20 > See ya > Steve >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 11:40:46 -0400 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Here's an index of some Flash items: http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Flash/ But here's one of the scariest things I've seen in a while: http://66.70.24.80/mj_send_01/mj_main.swf aieeeeeee, M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:05:30 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: RE: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell >So whats that Steve, the crap pouring out of the states is suddenly the >fault of those scheming Brits, trying to make up for loss of empire? ;¬) Yeah Geoff. You exported vertical industrial integration (to ensure a monopoly on the means of production/distribution), and media conglomerates. You also exported mass advertising, and all its abuses of the centralisation of mass communication for ends other than the good of the people, and production line processes to ensure concentration of profits and economy of scale which has the side effect of diminishing consumer choice. Madison Avenue, it is not well known, is just off Oxford Street in Merrie Olde Englande and is patrolled by the evil sheriff of Notingham (who is now charging huge fees for likeness rights and has tradmarked his name) and his 'band' of nefarious Americana Popular Music Revisionist Ripoff Merchants. They can't play a note to boot. > >And don't start trying to tell me that Music Hall songs or Vaudeville music >is serious.... > >El Maestro Con Queso > Now Geoff, with words like that you are spoiling me for a fight... Rob PS how about that Michael Owen? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:41:05 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Weird Flash Videos Indy Rutks wrote: > This one has the following credits at the end... > > "Music by Chantal Goya and Benny B" or something like that... Interesting, Chantal Goya was a French YeYe star from the 60s who went on to star in Jean Luc-Godard's "Masculine-Feminine" and sing children's songs in the 70s. She's apparently still performing today. I assume that she's associated with the girl and the cartoon rabbit somehow, but I can't tell by reading the weird translations that Google's search engine produces from the French webpages. > For those who understand French, go to: > > http://www.chantalgoya.com/intro.htm Sacre Bleu! That's even weirder than the Flash animation! - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:55:12 -0400 From: "M.Ace" Subject: (exotica) Petty Booka? Has anyone actually heard these ladies? http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html - --M.Ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:15:40 +0000 From: KK Subject: Re: (exotica) Good/Bad Sells/Doesn't Sell G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk wrote: > And I think that your generalisation is way off the mark anyway. Theres > popular music and serious music. What purpose is “serious music” being made for? Just curious. KK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 16:12:58 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism At 03:04 PM 9/3/01 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: > .>But I do think it's very easy to use race or profession to conceptualise a >group of people who have priced records out of your range and who, in fact, >you might be feeling envious of. Japanese/DJs/Japanese DJs rather than a >worldwide interest that, by the rules of supply and demand, has caused the >price of said records to rise. The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently racist. That's a very low bar to set. It's a long weekend. There are a lot of American tourists milling about in my fair city. I'm not about to make generalizations about Americans but I feel justified making certain generalizations about American tourists. If that's racism then send me to the summit they're having and I'll join "Zionism" in the list of Z's that are inherently racist. You tell me what I should conclude from this single experience: I go into this small record shop that, as far as I know, mostly caters to DJ's here. I look at the wall and see the records going for 100-200 dollars. I recognize the odd name but I see other records by the same artist in the bins for twenty dollars. Personally I don't distinguish between the cheaper and more expensive records (so I'm not jealous of the ones that buy the expensive records.) I ask the owner, who's both a DJ and Japanese, what's the story with the high priced items. He tells me that he can get that price from Japanese collectors. He says on occasion he gets that price from a DJ - either local or not - because those records all have at least one "wicked" cut that DJ's like to play. That's why they're so much more expensive than similar records. But, he tells me, most of his customers for those expensive records are countrymen of his. He sells them by mail and also goes to Japan twice a year to sell there. I ask him, in fact, whether he sells to people from other countries. He tells me "occasionally" but precedes to inform me that Japan is where these records are most highly sought. Furthermore he tells me that Japanese are sort of "used to" paying high prices for American - or any non-Japanese - records because the only way they can get records like this is to order them from America or actually go to America themselves. He tells me that Japanese record collectors don't really have much experience with scouring the local shops and finding some early Blue Note record for the equivalent of ten or twenty dollars. So they basically just think of the records they want as costing A LOT. And that makes sense to me because, for instance, I know people who collect things - like movie posters - that never come cheap. So I can understand how that can set up an expectation and an acceptance of a certain price threshold. I ask this record store owner "What about Germany? I know there are lots of jazz collectors in Germany". And he says "That may be. But the records I deal with, it's mostly DJ's and Japanese that are interested in them". I walk away and I think to myself "If I accept what he said, some people will call me a racist". Then I think "Fuck it". I agree that if I were to stand up on my soapbox and say "Record collectors of the world unite! Let's cast off the oppression of DJ's and Japanese! We must take back the LP! Kill a Jap for vinyl!"... then that would border on racism. But I was just reporting a bit of anecdotal information. It's no different from saying that geeks collect Beatle records. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 13:35:46 -0700 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) Petty Booka? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of M.Ace > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 10:55 AM > Has anyone actually heard these ladies? > > http://www.sister.co.jp/pettybooka/e-pb.html Petty Booka is/are quite good -- the playing itself isn't as interesting as the prospect of the combinations (Culture Club done Hawaiian-style, or Madonna done country), but it's still pretty goofy. Alas, I haven't been able to find their albums in the usual North American outlets (jpophelp.com, yesasia.com, my friendly neighborhood Kinokuniya, etc.). But in the glory days of Napster, I was able to download their "Christmas Everywhere" ep as well as a few assorted singles -- now if I could find the disc around here somewhere... Later, Ben np: cassandra wilson, "blue skies" http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/ ICQ: 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 09:31:23 -0400 From: Jerry Nutter Subject: (exotica) how to beat the high cost of living (stereo) Chuck Collazzi wrote: To blame the Japanese for rising vinyl prices is ridiculous. Besides, if you're going to complain about vinyl prices, why draw the line there? What about real estate, autos, gasoline, food, etc? Alan Zweig: The price of food operates under the same force as the price of vinyl. Supply and demand. When a bunch of collectors or DJ's all want the same record, the price goes up. If a lot of the collectors come from the same country, then they are collectively more responsible for the price rise. What's ridiculous about that? Jerry: I agree with Alan. I worked briefly in a "junk store" that sold used vinyl and saw firsthand the Japanese kids plunking down absurd amounts of daddy's cash for relatively "common" Lps. (This was before their economy went splat.) This is great for the seller, but bad for the average buyer. It also totally distorts the market values, and ultimately, turns off a lot of potential record collectors who only know the CD and might be curious about what they missed. As it is, the market for vinyl is dying out. For me, faced with a choice between a brand-new $18 CD and a used $30 Lp, it's a no-brainer! Or in the used shops, a choice between a $9 promo CD and a $10 Lp... And I used to be steadfastly pro-vinyl! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:36:29 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: RE: (exotica) racism shmacism >The thing that bothers me about my detractors here is the idea that any >generalization concerning the habits of a nation's citizens is inherently >racist. That's a very low bar to set. hear here! people are just way too sensitive these days. i mean stereotypes have to come from "somewhere" don't they? reminds me of a saying i heard before, if we cannot laugh at ourselves, we leave it up to others to do it for us. a very ugly white american dj, bump ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ buMp "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 22:13:43 +0000 From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) scores this summer greetings I spent a good portion of the summer in BC and below is a list of some of the vinyl i rounded up there (if anyone is interested). In addition to record searching at flea-markets, record stores and thrift shops I found this guy who advertised in the paper and who had a whole warehouse full of books, records and magazines. it was a nightmare searching through everything but worth it for the various gems that popped up. he wasn't always cheap though, he'd been selling for a while and had a good hunch as to the worth of things. anyway, here's the summer score list from all the places I visited: 1. "The Canaries". canary singing with the Artal orchestra. pretty weird and moderately priced. 2. "Skins!" by Les Baxter. I like this one. 3. "Groovin' In The Sunshine" by the 3 Ring Circus. Alan zweig recommended this one a while back when it was on eBay. It sounds a little like the Barbarella soundtrack on one side, but the other side has mediocore vocal tracks. Horrifying clown-kaleidoscope 60's sleeve. i found it in the warehouse for $15.00 Cool record! thanks alan. 4. "The Family Way" OST. so-so. Paul Mcartney did the music. 5. "Music Machine" by Johnny Almond. 60's jazz sort of thing. ok. 6. "Les Galets D'etrat" OST by George Gavarentz. late 60's? Has a couple of good tracks, nothing spectacular though. but only $5.00 7. "Release of An Oath" David Axelrod and the Electric Prunes. This copy is a reissue from the 1980's, but I see it's been reissued this year. I liked it a bit. I'll have to try harder with it. 8. "Roy Rogers Tells Songs about Pecos Bill" with The Sons of the Pioneers. good thrift score in reasonable condition. 9. "Medium" by the Mandrake Memorial. a bit scratched but I'm not missing much. 10. "The Sidehackers" OST. I got this on-line. has some Jerry Styner instros and some psych tracks by the New Life. A pretty cool OST, especially the "Psychedelic Rape" track. 11. "Inuit Throat and Harp Songs". field recordings of inuit throat singing from the early 70's. beats Radiohead any day. a Great record! but a little pricey (i traded for it). 12. "Love At First Sight" by Sounds Nice. Anyone out there heard this? it's on Rare Earth records, and shows a bunch of pictures of a 60's chick against a yellow backdrop on the cover. Has a GREAT sound-gallery funky 60's vibe to it. I totally recommend this record. I had to trade for it from a record dealer I know. I could swear I've passed it up at past thrifts since the cover makes it look like some EZ listening cover album of McArthur Park and the like. 13. "Lorne Greene's American west" garage sale score. a cleaner copy than my old one. 14. "Contact High With The Godz" original east coast psych-noise on ESP records. in VG so only $5.00 but it plays well. I'm happy. 15. "around The World" Santo and Johnny 16. "Secret Agent File" by Billy Strange 17. "Cine-Moog". so-so moog album but only $1.99. 18. "Brass Menagerie 1973" by Enoch Light. Has a FANTASTIC version of 'Season of the Witch'. again, only $1.99. 19. "Hi Fi Cuban Drums" has an amazing sleeve showing an exotica chick playing the bongos. a couple of tracks are good too. I found it in a used book store up the coast for a buck. 20. "Al Green Gets Next To You" by Al Green. A bit scratched but only 25 cents. 21. "Mellow-dreamin' by Young-Holt Ltd. early 70's jazz thing. 22. "scenes and Themes" by Hugo Montenegro. has that awful arp synth stuff. 23. "The Big Ball" A&M records comp. Has Zappa on it, and Wild Man Fischer, whom I've always wanted to hear. (I really, really want to find the Wild Man Fischer lp - anyone out there have a burn of it who's up for a trade?). The wild Man track is all I wanted from this double record. Unbelievably, I found it in the 25 cent bin of a record store. 24. "Near East Brass" by Jerry Fielding and orchestra. The east is so near on this one that it sounds too much like the west. i wanted far east, far out east, but this one's wayyy too close to home. i'm bored just mentioning it. 25. a kiddie "alice in wonderland" lp 26. "open Letter" by Victor Lundberg. patriotic, conservative 60's thing by the right-wing asshole mr. Lunberg. has this awful letter read to his son where he states that if he does not go off to war he's "no son of mine". 27. "make Your Parrot a Star" parrot training record with recorded repeats of lines from films. 28. "train Your Parrot To Talk" repeated parrot greetings. 29. a lefty frizell record, a roy acuff lp, a "tenessee guitar' instro lp, and an amazing 50's lp by Stu Philips (the country singer, not the film composer) called 'echoes of the canadian foothills' - all the songs are death and tragedy narratives with some of them through a slightly spooked echo effect. gotta be one of my all time favorite western records. 30. "African sanctus" by david Fanshawe. I read in Mojo that this is a hot item for samplers. I'm not big on it so far. 31. "Look Inside" by The Asylum Choir. a psych thing with a young Leon russell. i'm selling it. 32. "And This Shall Pass" by Warm Dust. rare psych-prog thing from early 70's. it's going on eBay. hope this didn't bore the reader. not all of the above were cheap, but the most was for the sidehackers OST @ $35.00 US for a sealed copy. a lot were around $10 canadian. good luck record hunting jb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:53:32 EDT From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Beating a Japanese collector horse/deja vu With all due respect, didn't we already beat this particular "Japanese collector/racism" thread into the ground a few months ago? - -DavidH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:28:53 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) scores this Weekend James, I enjoyed reading your list, and it looks like you had a good summer. I have been planning to send in my list of recent scores (Labor Day weekend) as well. I spent a total of about US$ 20 on all of these: 1. Sauter & Finegan Orchestra, INSIDE SAUTER-FINEGAN. I had a copy of this already, but the vinyl on this one was better. I couldn't have too many copies of this cover anyway. 2. Sammy Davis Jr. I GOTTA RIGHT TO SWING (sp.?) I've only listened to one side of this so far. It doesn't swing as much as I'd like, but I love a good Sammy tune. 3. Tony Mottola, HEART & SOUL GUITAR, Project 3. Mellow, but nice. Dick Hyman has some good backup moments on this one. 4. Tony Mottola, LUSH, LATIN & LOVELY, Project 3. I had a copy of this already, but this one was cleaner. Good bossa nova (although not coveted by the Japanese apparently)--nice version of A Man and a Woman. 5. The First Percussion Sextet, THE FABULOUS SOUND OF . . ., Good, but not exciting. It's interesting to note the connection with West Virginia University, in Morgantown, where the auditorium was evidently built with near perfect accoustics. I recently bought the WVU percussion ensemble album PROTEST IN PERCUSSION (what "P" words were left by that point?), which was also no great shakes, but made a big deal about the auditorium. Anybody know more about the history of the WVU-Percussion connection? 6. The Ames Brothers SING THE BANDS--got this one because I LOVE Destination Moon. This is mostly big band stuff, but they're voices are still fantastic. 7. Sammy Kaye, SWING AND SWAY AU GO-GO. Okay, I got this one on Alan's recommendation, and I DO like it, especially the organ accompaniment. I'm still not a fan of the cascading saxophone sound (maybe my view of saxophones is like his view of trombones?), but this IS a good album. So this is Now Sound? (sorry, couldn't help it). 8. Jimmy Smith, THE SERMON--Jimmy Smith, what can you say? Incredible. The album's in crappy shape, but it doesn't skip, and I just couldn't let it pass for just a buck. 9. Jimmy Smith, THE BOSS. Ditto. 10. Art Blakey, the Jazz Messengers, and Sabu, CU-BOP. I haven't given this a thorough listen through. It's more "high" jazz than exotica, but when you see an album like this in Goodwill you don't flip past it. 11. Gary McFarland, SOFT SAMBA STRINGS--Soft Samba is still one of my favorites, and this is a VERY nice complement to that. 12. Gary McFarland, THE IN SOUND--I had a mono copy of this that I bought off of e-bay (supposedly near mint but not), but this one's stereo and in a condition that's just as good. Couldn't let it pass. 13. Billy May, SORTA BILLY MAY (? I think that's the title anyway?) Good, but not exceptional, quirky Billy May arrangements. 14. Henry Mancini, SYMPHONIC SOUL. No real "authentic" soul (whatever that might be), but I haven't had time to let this one sink in. It's very 70s sounding, but in the sense that it belongs with 70s cop shows. This was the first time I'd ever seen this album (or even heard about it). Others--Ted Heath, NEW PALLADIUM PERFORMANCES; Walt Disney, THE ARISTOCATS; UA Artists, Various Movie Songs; Donald Byrd & ? Gigi (Eponymous, I believe). I got all of these in northern Delaware at a flea market and a Goodwill. The Goodwill actually had three Les Baxter albums (African Jazz, Ports of Pleasure, and Wild Guitars) that I was more than psyched to buy, but they all looked as though they had been played on a lawn mower. I have the first two of those anyway, thankfully. Weekends like that don't come around often, and it looks as though I'll have to find more room for my records. I actually wrote a long comment on the racism question, but decided against it. Everyone else has made the necessary points. Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:07:04 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Jane Greer, Philippe Leotard,Frank Emilio Flynn Just back from vacation - catching up on email, digests, etc. -- Lou Actress Jane Greer Dies at 76 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Actress Jane Greer, a film noir star and former wife of bandleader Rudy Vallee, has died. She was 76. Greer, who as an icy brunette bested both Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas in 1947's noir classic "Out of the Past,'' died Friday of complications from cancer, said her son, Alex Lasker. The native of Washington, D.C. and former beauty contestant and model caught the eye of Hollywood after appearing in Life magazine. She later signed with RKO, after studio head Howard Hughes became smitten with her. While still a teen-ager, she married crooner Vallee in 1943. The two divorced in 1945. She then married attorney and producer Edward Lasker in 1947, earning the spite of Hughes who then sought to stymie her career. They later divorced. Greer was best known for her role as the seductive Kathie Moffat in "Out of the Past,'' which cemented her reputation as a noir vixen. "She was a bad girl you could fall in love with -- who could take on Robert Mitchum and really make him melt,'' Lasker said. Bettejane Greer and her twin brother, Don, were born Sept. 9, 1924, and grew up in Florida. Greer later said she was set on becoming an actress at 15, after awaking one morning to find the left side of her face was paralyzed. Months of facial exercises eventually cured her. "I'd always wanted to be an actress, and suddenly I knew that learning to control my facial muscles was one of the best assets I could have as a performer. Emotions often must be portrayed from an inner feeling, of course, but I had a double advantage because I was learning to direct my as-yet expressionless feelings, as well as gaining an ability to express emotion by a very conscious manipulation of my muscles,'' Greer once told an interviewer. Throughout the 1940s and '50s, she worked consistently, appearing in "Dick Tracy, Detective,'' "The Prisoner of Zenda,'' and "Man of a Thousand Faces.'' Her career slowed by the mid 1950s, although she continued to act. In 1984, Greer appeared in "Against All Odds,'' a remake of "Out of the Past'' starring Jeff Bridges. In it, she played the mother of her original character. She later acted in David Lynch's TV series "Twin Peaks.'' Her on-screen character was not matched by her countenance in person, said daughter-in-law Anne Wile-Lasker. "She was just gracious and sweet. She had this image on film that she wasn't in life,'' Wile-Lasker said. Greer is survived by her twin brother; sons Alex, Lawrence and Steve; and two grandchildren. Her common-law husband, acting coach Frank London, died in January. A private memorial service will be held Sept. 9 on what would have been Greer's 77th birthday. AP-NY / 08-26-01 20:24 EDT - --------- August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times Philippe Leotard; French Actor on TV and in Movies Philippe Leotard, 60, French actor who worked with noted directors Francois Truffaut and Claude LeLouch and won a Cesar, his country's equivalent of the Oscar, died Saturday in a Paris clinic. Born in the Riviera resort city of Nice in 1940, Leotard had a television and movie career that spanned three decades and included more than 70 films, the first being a made-for-TV movie, "Crime and Punishment," in 1966. The actor won his Cesar for his role in the 1983 film, "The Balance." In addition to Truffaut and LeLouch, Leotard worked with Fred Zinnemann in "Day of the Jackal" and John Frankenheimer in "French Connection II." Leotard spent years battling drug and alcohol addiction, which he detailed in a 1997 book. He was the elder brother of French diplomat Francois Leotard, who serves as the European Union emissary to Macedonia. - ---------------- August 27, 2001 -- L.A. Times OBITUARIES Frank Emilio Flynn; Pioneer of Cuban Jazz By AGUSTIN GURZA, TIMES STAFF WRITER Frank Emilio Flynn, the blind Cuban pianist whose career spanned seven decades and bridged musical styles as disparate as the courtly contredanse and the improvisational descarga, has died. He was 80. The frail but still active musician was at his piano when he had a heart attack Thursday night and died at his home in Havana, said his cousin Kathy Flynn of West Los Angeles. Granma, Cuba's official newspaper, reported that Flynn was buried Friday at the Colon cemetery in Havana, the city of his birth. The legendary pianist and composer had lived in Los Angeles for several months earlier this year after his cousin reunited the American and Cuban sides of the Flynn family. The visit featured some of his final public performances, including a guest appearance June 3 with the Latin Jazz Ensemble of Cal State L.A., where he taught a spring series of classes as artist in residence. During his stay, local fans flocked to greet the diminutive musician, who was influenced by or worked with several seminal figures of Afro-Cuban music, such as danzon master Antonio Maria Romeu and percussionist Tata Guines, a founding member of Flynn's respected 1950s quintet, Los Amigos. "We created a whole new family here," said Kathy Flynn, whose great-uncle, Francis Joseph Flynn, was the late musician's father. "He was just such a beautiful person. He continued to care about people, despite all that he had to go through." Francisco Emilio Flynn Rodriguez was born in 1921, his eyesight damaged by forceps during delivery. His mother died before his fifth birthday and his father returned to the United States months later, leaving the boy in the care of his Cuban aunt and uncle. At 13, Flynn won an amateur contest and started his career as part of a danzon orchestra, featuring the graceful ballroom music that preceded the mambo and cha-cha. But tragedy struck again in his late teens when a tuberculosis epidemic claimed the lives of his surrogate parents. By then, Flynn had gone totally blind. At the Forefront of a Musical Movement He continued his studies at a school operated by Cuba's National Assn. for the Blind, of which he would later serve as president from 1978-81. In the mid-1940s, Flynn resumed his popular music career with his band Loquibambia, featuring Omara Portuondo of Buena Vista Social Club fame. That placed Flynn at the forefront of a movement called filin, which fused the traditional Cuban bolero with U.S. jazz sensibilities. But times were hard and Flynn made ends meet by selling cigars to shops on consignment, walking the streets of Havana without a cane. In the 1950s, he became a charter member of the Club Cubano de Jazz, a group of enthusiasts who played descargas, or jam sessions, for free and raised money to sponsor visits by jazz colleagues from the U.S. By the end of the decade, Flynn led the seminal Quinteto Instrumental de Musica Moderna, devoted to exploring Latin jazz. At the same time, he pursued the study of classical music, which remained his true artistic ambition. He cherished his recordings by Cuba's semiclassical composers Ignacio Cervantes and Ernesto Lecuona, author of "Malaguena" and "Siboney." Until his death, Flynn was thankful to his friend and fellow musician Armando Romeu Gonzalez, who learned Braille to help him make the first transcriptions of Lecuona's compositions. Flynn was also proud of having developed a technique for teaching the blind to write music, countering their natural tendency to learn by ear. "If they want to be musicians," he told The Times in April, "they have to be the real thing." In February 1998, two years before his family reunion, Flynn made his U.S. debut in New York at a climactic concert, part of the Jazz at Lincoln Center program. Latin giants such as the late Tito Puente turned out to watch an all-star reincarnation of Los Amigos, featuring bassist Orlando "Cachaito" Lopez; percussionist Jose "Changuito" Quintana, formerly of Los Van Van; and Guines, the group's original conguero. "Frank Emilio is a pianist who has influenced every subsequent generation, and those to come, because he's kept up to date," Cuban pianist Chucho Valdes, who made a guest appearance at the concert, said at the time. "You can't talk about Frank Emilio in the past because he's still very much present." Flynn leaves his wife of 47 years, Martha Montes Cobian; his son, Jesus; and a granddaughter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1038 ******************************