From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #1078 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1078 In This Digest: (exotica) re: fun boy three (exotica) Auld Lang Syne / Mrs Miller (exotica) SOLID! Funk & Soul this Monday at Kings in NC (exotica) Re: When threads collide Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave (exotica) Now Year's Cheetah (exotica) Fun Boy Three Re: (exotica) Re: Sunny Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Re: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring anbody? (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) Re: Sunny (exotica) Great whistling LP's on ebay (exotica) More Specials Re: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring anbody? (exotica) More Special in NC Re: (exotica) More Specials Re: (exotica) More Specials Re: (exotica) Great whistling LP's on ebay (exotica) Porky Pig's Blue Christmas RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) More Specials Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... (exotica) Fun Boy Three (exotica) More Specials More topics RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... (exotica) give me a break Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... RE: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:19:32 +0800 From: "william" Subject: (exotica) re: fun boy three i haven't listened to them in ages, but i used to really love them. and they did do a nice version of "summertime". it seems like their was a big arguement about "our lips are sealed" as to who actually wrote it. i think terry hall co-wrote it with one of the go-gos. after fb3 split terry went on to form the colourfield which released two albums before splitting. and now i think terry just releases solo stuff. i haven't heard most of it, but i have a cd single where he covers "god only knows" and "this guy's in love with you". william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:26:48 -0800 From: "Otis Fodder" Subject: (exotica) Auld Lang Syne / Mrs Miller > Does anybody know some good now sound versions of "Auld Lang > Syne?" I've got > a DJ gig on New Years Eve and I'd be woefully remiss if I didn't play it, > but I want a version with some flair. Any ideas? Now sound it's not... but Wendy Mae Chambers does a terrific CAR HORN version. and on the Wichita Lineman cut - Culturcide (alternate lyrics) and Optiganally Yours (cover version.) A bit on the Mrs. Miller thread too... I am in the process of working on a rarities compilation (vanity single, TV appearances, radio spots, songs on Mrs. Miller records, + more) with my partner Dana Countryman (from Cool and Strange Music Magazine). We are still looking for any rarities and if you can help with the project drop a line. One interesting factoid is that Elva was unaware of the Marijuana stance (the green brownies) on the "Does Her Thing" LP. The original cover shot was of regular brown brownies and they changed them to green for the cover. Elva always thought it was just a fun thing they did (from family recollections) and when she found out years later she was quite shocked. 'Mary Jane' never starred Mrs. Miller. She just has one track on the LP, "Mary Jane" which is the identical version as on the "Does her Thing" LP. You can however see Elva singing "It's Magic" in the 1967 movie "The Cool Ones", which this song is not on any of her lps. - - Otis mofo@thebranflakes.com www.thebranflakes.com www.interstellarcafe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:13:32 -0800 From: DJ Marco Subject: (exotica) SOLID! Funk & Soul this Monday at Kings in NC SOLID!=20 CRATE DIGGIN' 60s-70s RAW FUNK & HEAVY SOUL at King's in Raleigh, NC - USA Monday, December 3 from 9:30pm til..? with DJ MARCO HAMMOND and DJ MIDNITE COWBOY featuring the SOUL-O-DELIC LIGHT SHOW and 70s BLACK ACTION CINEMA Get down to the heavy heavy groove at KING'S this Monday. DJ MIDNITE COWBOY returns with another set of JA soul 45s dug from dingy island jukeboxes and Stax/Volt grooves guaranteed to get those fingers poppin' from 9:30pm-11:00pm. Then Marco hits the decks from 11:00pm until the wee hours with more funk, latin soul & afrobeat platters than you can shake a funky robot at. With FREE ADMISSION, FREE POOL TABLES, and $1 PBRs & Old Mils, yo= u can't go wrong!!! And don't forget to come to our xtra-large holiday bash i= n Chapel Hill later this month (see below). MORE INFO & PAST PLAYLISTS http://www.thestepgods.com/solid/ WANT TO GUEST DJ?=20 Email mailto:djmarco@thestepgods.com for info. KING=B9S ROYAL BARCADE 424 South McDowell St. next to the Vertigo Diner in downtown Raleigh, NC 919.831.1005 http://www.kingsbarcade.com/ FREE ADMISSION 18+ to enter =80 21+ to drink =80 $1 beer specials =80 free pool tables JUST ADDED! Super-Bad four-DJ holiday blowout on Thursday, Dec. 20=20 at Local 506 in Chapel Hill! DJ MARCO, DJ VG-, DJ MIDNITE COWBOY and DJ DIGDUG do it ALL NIGHT for a trifling $3!!! ($7 for the youngsters) Fully ABC licensed, fully stocked bar. Please let us know if you wish to be removed from our email list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:18:18 -0500 From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Re: When threads collide > In a 7 page article on vinyl restoration in the > Aug. '99 Digital Musician magazine, Scott Garrigus > (www.Garrigus.com) wrote that vinyl recordings don't > have a frequency response higher then 10 kHz and > therefore a 22.05 kHz sample rate is fine I find this one highly suspect. This isn't even close to the 20Hz-20kHz range considered the norm for even a low priced stereo cartridge to reproduce. I believe the limits are not only in the vinyl pressing, but in the ability of the total sound system to reproduce these levels, and/or the ability of the listener to actually hear them. The common thinking was limits of human hearing are at around this range though I've seen claims for cartridge performance as low as 10Hz to as high as 50kHz. As anything in the audio world, the truth is in the ear (and the bankbook) of the beholder... On a related subject, it wasn't only my imagination that many European pressings of a records were far superior sounding to a Canadian or American pressing. They almost always sounded fuller and of higher fidelity. Japanese were touted to be the best of all, but the cost was usually so out of proportion as to make it too much of a stretch. I later discovered the reason for this was that the Europoeans and Japanese simply pressed much fewer records off of a master than we did, and that problem didn't necessarilly have anything to do with the actual recording. The 'audiophile' series recordings of known records claimed even better sound, though they were usually records I didn't want in the first place so I never did try it out. I'm thinking I'm um.. starting to show my age here... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:17:13 -0500 From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Moritz wrote: > sh..! I missed it. It ran only one week here. Shame shame.. and after I hyped it to you so strongly myself. Be sure to catch it as soon as it comes back or comes to video. I know you and Katja will both appreciate it. It's somehere between Crumb, Alan's "Vinyl" and American Beauty (PS - Alan is in good company...). Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:33:00 -0800 From: DJ Marco Subject: (exotica) Now Year's Cheetah > From: alan miller : > Must additionally give thanks for the tip off to "see the cheetah" by Big > Game Hunters which i just came across yesterday. Very fine indeed! Yes! Yes! Yes! Now somebody else knows that song! I'm so glad to hear you found it. Wish I could help you with your mystery song, though. >From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) >Subject: Re: (exotica) Now Sound Auld Lang Syne >i have a new years gig again too and i never play that song. > From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com > Don't have any suggestions on Auld Lang Syne, but the mention of the specials > reminded me of their version of "Enjoy Yourself (it's later than you think) >", a perfect new years' tune for these days. I've loved the Specials 1st LP since high school but after all these years I still haven't picked up "More.." What an idiot, huh? But the idea of new years *themed* songs rather than the "theme song," I like. Any other similar suggestions? (other than to stop relying on you guys to tell me what to play) ;) - -Mark - -- DJ Marco Hammond http://www.thestepgods.com/djmarco/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:51:36 -0800 From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: (exotica) Fun Boy Three FB3 were always waaay beyond you're garden variety ThompsonTwins type fare of the day back then. As someone wisely pointed out "More Specials" which is the anteceedent movement of FB3's short lived career, I like many others find a inventive ska-afying of Martin Denny inspired environo-airportlounge acoustical soundscape! One of the most amazing shows I've ever seen, certainly in the top ten of "current" (excluding the hertiage faves like james brown, sinatra, tom jones) shows i've ever seen. not that i'm particularly fond of 'the doors', the closing number of their show at the place (it was spring of '83..i belive) they did "the end". a bombastic number at its core but they applied some weird angular treatment that made it their own. additionally, this very long time and seldom posting member will cite the interesting non-lp b'sides recorded by Colourfied....they included; - - Windmills of Your Mind - - Little Things (it was Bobbly Goldsboro, i believe orig.) - - and the one other comparable one i forgot, of course ! The of the first one-off project/group things Terry Hall did after Colourfied, "Terry, Blair, & An-chewka" (sp?) stands up against any other demented old late 6T's now sound vocal lp's....littering the quarter bins at salavation army stores back then when i schlepped records for a living. if you're wont to delve further there are at least 113 like minded individuals found here; and for the most of you who found this so much bandwidth consuming blather....i offer you this with the hope you don't "have one already" (give 'em a small donation for full rockin access) paul moshay reporting from digest mode in los angeles 68, calif. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:30:34 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Sunny Sorry, if this was mentioned before - I haven't been following this thread from the beginning: There is a "Sunny" compilation out on Roof Records / Trocadero records with versions by Arthur Lyman, Georgie Fame, Booker T, Robert Mitchum, Herbie Mann, Andy Williams, the Ventures, and others... http://sunny-the-song.de (I guess this *must* have been mentioned... anyway...) - -- Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:26:05 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) another ghost world rave Brian Karasick schrieb: > Moritz wrote: > > sh..! I missed it. It ran only one week here. > Shame shame.. and after I hyped it to you so strongly myself. I was in Venice when it happened! Mo - -- ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:23:11 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring anbody? basic hip schrieb: > Subject: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring > anbody? > > > Does anbody by accident have this? Perhaps even Mr. Hip? > > I do! This is a great LP! With Mrs Miller sings the title track and there > are some really good instrumentals. > > Certainly worthy of a weekly upload. Want it? I'm glad to take requests > and it will be up Monday if you like. Yeaah! I was hoping you would say this. Swell! - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:46:30 -0500 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... .....a really cool guy - at least we know he lived a great life (damn those cigarettes!!!). RIP buddy. - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:12:46 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Sunny Just to add to the list, there's a nice slow version of Sunny on Toots Thielemans's "Guitars, Strings . . . and Things." (The "things" in this case are apparently the three women who offer wordless singing on the album--swift thinking for the folks at Command.) Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:59:14 -0800 From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Great whistling LP's on ebay Fred Lowery's two best LP's on Decca are up on ebay right now. Both are in my top ten, right up there with Muzzy and Art Coates. Forget his religious warbling on Word, "Whistle A Happy Tune" (with the Anita Kerr Singers) and "Walking Along Kicking The Leaves" (with hawaiian steel guitar) are at the top of the heap as far as whistling records go, so this is your chance to get em both :>) I'm not selling them, I just check ebay daily for whistling records and I'd hate to see them die without a bid, which they probably will do if I don't jump up and down and say, "Hey! Bid on these!!" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1490778198 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1491615977 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:33:02 -0600 From: paul dean Subject: (exotica) More Specials I missed the whole Fun Boy Three thread, and didnt' read it until after my last post, so I apologize for repeating so many peoples comments about the Specials, and More Specials in particular. But yes, Mark, you've GOT to pick this up. By the way, I'm so impressed with the Now Scene you are developing in Raleigh / Chapel Hill!!! I went to school, undergrad and then grad, in both towns, and I thought they had so much . . . potential. Maybe you are there to unleash it! paul dean on 11/30/01 2:33 AM, DJ Marco at djmarco@thestepgods.com wrote: > I've loved the Specials 1st LP since high school but after all these years I > still haven't picked up "More.." What an idiot, huh? But the idea of new > years *themed* songs rather than the "theme song," I like. Any other similar > suggestions? (other than to stop relying on you guys to tell me what to > play) ;) > > -Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:37:32 -0600 From: paul dean Subject: Re: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring anbody? yes please! paul dean > > > basic hip schrieb: > >> Subject: (exotica) "MaryJane" OST with Mrs Miller singing and starring >> anbody? >> >>> Does anbody by accident have this? Perhaps even Mr. Hip? >> >> I do! This is a great LP! With Mrs Miller sings the title track and there >> are some really good instrumentals. >> >> Certainly worthy of a weekly upload. Want it? I'm glad to take requests >> and it will be up Monday if you like. > > Yeaah! I was hoping you would say this. Swell! > > --Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:21:47 -0800 From: DJ Marco Subject: (exotica) More Special in NC on 11/30/01 7:31 AM, paul dean at epauldean@home.com wrote: > I missed the whole Fun Boy Three thread, and didnt' read it until after my > last post, so I apologize for repeating so many peoples comments about the > Specials, and More Specials in particular. But yes, Mark, you've GOT to > pick this up. I've only heard "Ghost Town," which I like. I even remember reading a review about the LP when I was in high school, saying that it was "easy listening." The comment was meant to be derogatory, but at the time I took it as a compliment, having really gotten into Love's FOREVER CHANGES and more melodramatic, quasi-lounge stuff like Lou Reed's BERLIN & Nick Cave's KICKING AGAINST THE PRICKS. Gotta credit Cave for turning me on to Glen Campbell and that whole early-70s easy/commercial/glossy stuff. > By the way, I'm so impressed with the Now Scene you are developing in > Raleigh / Chapel Hill!!! I went to school, undergrad and then grad, in both > towns, and I thought they had so much . . . potential. Maybe you are there > to unleash it! I hope people dig the nights, and this last one in Chapel Hill went great. My first 3 Raleigh HONEY MACHINE gogo gigs were average to abysmal, however. Sample quotes: "You're gonna play 60s stuff, huh? Like Pink Floyd?" "Hey, I know this song! It's Deep Purple!" (overheard during during Brian Auger Trinity's cover of the Beatles' "Day in the Life". Harrison R.I.P.) The SOLID! funk/soul nights I do are doing ok in Raleigh, but I expect they'll do even better in Chapel Hill later this month. So come on and move back down here, Paul, so you can make the scene! By the way, your name is familiar. Reply to me again off list to fill me in on how I might know ya. I played in Days Of... & Willard if that makes any connections. - - Mark - ----------------- DJ Marco http://www.thestepgods.com/djmarco/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:01:20 -0500 From: "M.Ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials Alright, enough already! Stop tormenting me! I know you all know I missed out on "More Specials". The day I went to the store to buy it, it was gone and I've never seen a copy since. A lasting vexation for two decades. At least I have the first album and the "Ghost Town" 12-inch. And at least I saw them in '81 at a kludgy day-long new wave "festival" on the infield of a horse track outside Philly. The lineup was The Coasters, The Go-Go's, The Specials and The Police. Coasters were good, if strangely billed. Go-Go's were sort of boring because they sounded just like the album. Police, well, they were the Police. The Specials were great -- they made the awful venue feel like a club show. Powerful when necessary, loose yet precise, spontaneous and goofy. They did material from both albums and the Ghost Town 12. Some Go-Go's did additional vocals on the "More" material. One of the best sets I've ever seen. Hitting other elements of this thread... "New Wave" is always such a loaded term, with different people seeing it differently. I think first of the quirky, individualistic, indie sort of acts (B-52's, Pere Ubu, Lene Lovich (the Yma of the 80s), etc). But I think the masses define it as MTV new wave (Thompson Twins, A-Ha, etc), which I do find pretty icky stuff. I have been known to argue the "good" new wave as comparable to exotica and space age pop for the way it veered away from the puritan orthodoxy of guitar rock to more clever and colorful arrangements using a wider variety of sounds and styles. "Our Lips Are Sealed" is credited to tiny Jane Wiedlin and Terry Hall. Fun Boy Three -- I have the "Ain't What You Do" 12-inch. It was fun... their approach to the percussion had a sort of exotic feel (but I never bothered with an album). Though for new wave exotica I have to give a nod to PiL's "Flowers Of Romance" -- the album everyone hated. There was more in that vein at the time... Siouxsie & Budgie's side project, The Creatures... probably more I can't think of at the moment. Oh yeah -- Bow Wow Wow: their whole sound was built around pseudo-tribal drumming. A combination of pop and faux ethnic sounds: seems like exotica to me, yep. Sorry, Jimmy, but my friends and I kind of liked Haircut 100. Not so much for the music, as for our amazement at how astoundingly wimpy they were (maybe it was all a setup for the Free Design). Plus Haircut 100 used marimba -- I've always been a sucker for that. enough, M.Ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:17:11 -0500 From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials Would you beleive, Monsieur le Swanks, that the only Specials I have is a live CD that came out on the British Receiver label in 1992, called "Too Much Too Young," recorded at Aston University sometime in 1979. It's actually really high-energy and of course a damn good time - their audience banter is pretty funny. The Specials allegedly reformed. I know Madness did. Madness has a UK website that you can visit and download a single (and watch a video) they released themselves in 1999 or 2000. It's GOOD, not the wimpy "Our House" approach. They make buzzings on the website about preparing an album, but with no date set and no label secured. If the rest of the new matrial is on the standard of that single, I would love to see it come out. But it has been a while now, so I dunno. Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire - ----- Original Message ----- > > I missed the whole Fun Boy Three thread, and didnt' read it until after my > last post, so I apologize for repeating so many peoples comments about the > Specials, and More Specials in particular. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:18:19 -0500 From: "Carl Howard" Subject: Re: (exotica) Great whistling LP's on ebay Arrrgh! And me without an income! It just AIN'T gonna happen too much. Carl Howard Ohio Regional WUV Supervisor Alien Abduction Coordinator Communist Dupe Extraordinaire - ----- Original Message ----- > > Fred Lowery's two best LP's on Decca are up on ebay right now. Both are in > my top ten, right up there with Muzzy and Art Coates. > > Forget his religious warbling on Word, "Whistle A Happy Tune" (with the > Anita Kerr Singers) and "Walking Along Kicking The Leaves" (with hawaiian > steel guitar) are at the top of the heap as far as whistling records go, so > this is your chance to get em both :>) > > I'm not selling them, I just check ebay daily for whistling records and I'd > hate to see them die without a bid, which they probably will do if I don't > jump up and down and say, "Hey! Bid on these!!" > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1490778198 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1491615977 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:00:01 -0800 From: Brian Linds Subject: (exotica) Porky Pig's Blue Christmas I was just reading the terrific article on Mel Blanc in the new Cool and Strange Magazine. Does anyone know of the origin of the Porky Pig Blue Christmas song? The one with a guitar, Porky's voice and some gal in the back laughing her head off? Seems to be a Christmas DJ song. Am I right? Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:44:24 -0800 From: Rob Crowther Subject: RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... George was always my fave Beattle, ever since my mod-wanker days (during the big Mod scare of '83) of Beattle boots, pegged pants, skinny ties and scooters. People used to say I looked like George -- which was a hell of lot better than people saying you look like Ringo. (Still, my money is on Ringo to win it all. He's aged better than any could have believed, and certianly has more chutzpah than Paul.) George, my guitar gently weeps. ******************************************* I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. --Frank Sinatra Rob Crowther mrsuave@mistersuave.com www.mistersuave.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:05:57 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... He was the mysterious Beatle, the one who took the Indian yoga thing serious. He was the quite Beatle, yet he could be very funny and had good humor. He was the underestimated Beatle. Everybody always talked about the Lennon/McCartney songwriting, but George did a lot of really nice songs. He made the sitar a popular instrument in pop music. He was the pretty Beatle, the one that had the most beautiful women. He was the good Beatle, initiating and participating in many aid projects. He was the only Beatle with a substantial musical career after the Beatles. He was a Travelling Wilbury. He will be missed. Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:13:12 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials "M.Ace" schrieb: > "New Wave" is always such a loaded term, with different people seeing it > differently. I think first of the quirky, individualistic, indie sort of > acts (B-52's, Pere Ubu, Lene Lovich (the Yma of the 80s), etc). Me too. > But I think > the masses define it as MTV new wave (Thompson Twins, A-Ha, etc), which I > do find pretty icky stuff. Which is like disco with wave elements. Or wave going discoish... > I have been known to argue the "good" new wave > as comparable to exotica and space age pop for the way it veered away from > the puritan orthodoxy of guitar rock to more clever and colorful > arrangements using a wider variety of sounds and styles. well, this would be not a very "immanent" category. Musically New Wave actually has elements of Ska, Kraut Rock, Punk and electronic avantgarde. Above all I think it was a conceptual movement; it had some kind of message, so anything that was "anti" the mainstream could be New Wave. In that way you are right. But exotica in comparison never had an attitude "against the establishment" ... Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:30:58 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... > He was the only Beatle with a substantial musical career after the Beatles. I agree with all that you said, Mo (and I also liked him most among the Beatles), but can you explain this line a little more? I can go along with it regarding Ringo, but even though I'm not much of a McCartney fan, it seems to me he has had a substantial musical career after the Beatles, hasn't he? Clayton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:37:56 -0800 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Fun Boy Three Ah, I still love Fun Boy Three, and the Colourfield. For someone who isn't really a fan of ska or reggae, Fun Boy Three are a good window of enjoyment. I believe Terry Hall is now releasing music solo, or was, but I admit I haven't heard any of it. Mr. Unlucky - --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:39:48 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: (exotica) More Specials More topics At 01:17 PM 11/30/01 -0500, Carl Howard wrote: > > >The Specials allegedly reformed. I know Madness did. I had their records for about ten seconds. Till I decided that I actually hated ska. One of the few musical genres that I continue to hate. It reminds me too much of polka and the macarena. It doesn't really remind me of reggae, which I don't hate. Reggae is more in the category of "I don't care if I never hear it again". But this whole specials thing makes me think maybe we could slightly revive things here if we just opened it up. You can talk about anything without having to preface it and say "I don't know what this has to do with exotica but..." Just a thought. You can't look back. But I do. Here's a good quote "The past is the only dead thing that smells sweet". (G.K.Chesterton) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:48:12 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: RE: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... At 11:44 AM 11/30/01 -0800, Rob Crowther wrote: > >George was always my fave Beattle, ever since my mod-wanker days I haven't turned on the TV yet today so I'm assuming this means he's dead. Duh. He was also my favorite Beatle. No particular reason. Back in the day, you had to choose one (You also were asked to choose between Beatle members and Dave Clark Five members. Lots of battles back then on teen magazines.) I chose George because I liked his face. And because he was the underdog. And because somehow just being "the guitar player" in a band like the Beatles almost seemed like some kind of conceptual art idea. Like a strange juxtaposition. Like he didn't quite fit in. And when he did finally place a few songs on their records, they didn't really seem like Beatle songs. I only ever begrudgingly liked the Beatles so somehow George was the one you could like without totally buying the package. Another sign that the end is closer. I'm trying to prepare myself. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:53:57 -0500 From: azed@pathcom.com Subject: (exotica) give me a break Okay I just turned on CNN and there's a farewell to George Harrison, a somewhat welcome respite from Afghanistan. But then they put up one of those messages they're getting online: "I'm glad John is there to welcome George into Rock n Roll Heaven". Are there people actually comforted by this? I guess there are. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 21:55:53 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... Clayton Black schrieb: > > He was the only Beatle with a substantial musical career after the Beatles. > > I agree with all that you said, Mo (and I also liked him most among the > Beatles), but can you explain this line a little more? I can go along with > it regarding Ringo, but even though I'm not much of a McCartney fan, it > seems to me he has had a substantial musical career after the Beatles, > hasn't he? This is of course very subjective. Fact is, I don't like any single song Paul made after the Beatles, and that is why I made this statement. I mean, Ringo also did a couple of albums and jammed here and there, but I can't really take it serious. Paul to me, at his best, is the con-genius partner of John Lennon. - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:08:38 -0800 From: crymad Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics azed@pathcom.com wrote: > > I had their records for about ten seconds. > Till I decided that I actually hated ska. > One of the few musical genres that I continue to hate. > It reminds me too much of polka and the macarena. It doesn't really remind > me of reggae, which I don't hate. > Reggae is more in the category of "I don't care if I never hear it again". Here here! No matter how wide my musical interests expand, reggae remains the one genre I do not embrace. Maybe it's the singing. Cause I love dub. - --crymad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:10:50 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska azed@pathcom.com schrieb: > I had their records for about ten seconds. > Till I decided that I actually hated ska. > One of the few musical genres that I continue to hate. > It reminds me too much of polka and the macarena. Interesting point. It's true. It IS a bit polkaish. But don't you like ANY polka at all? I love ska. Did you ever consider to dance, I mean, really dance to it? It's so cool. Actually it's rock'n'roll going calypso, so it has this charming - a little bit - naive element, which is absolutely exotic, because it's tribal... primitve... > It doesn't really remind > me of reggae, which I don't hate. > Reggae is more in the category of "I don't care if I never hear it again". Discordia! I love Reggae. Actually it's the only living relevant popular international music, that you could call exotica IMHO. I use to have my reggae phases. For some weeks I really go for it, and then I don't care for it at all for months or years. You have to be "in it" to dig it. Now that you said this, I will bother you with a reggae compilation!!! (uh, ring-related) > You can talk about anything without having to preface it and say "I don't > know what this has to do with exotica but..." I know what reggae has to do with exotica. Recent reggae finds: "Boss Reggae" - the guitarist of the Skatalites with an instrumental solo album - super duper! "Best of Harry "J" Johnson", double LP/CD, who made my absolute favorite reggae tune of all times, "The Liquidator", but also produced incredible things like "Young, Gifted And Black". On the Trojan label. Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:12:53 +0100 From: moritzR@t-online.de (moritzR) Subject: Re: (exotica) Farewell George Harrison....... azed@pathcom.com schrieb: > > > Another sign that the end is closer. I'm trying to prepare myself. > How do you do that? (seriously) - --Mo ............................ studio ® http://moritzR.de exotica@web.de ............................ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:22:39 +0100 From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" Subject: RE: (exotica) More Specials More topics More reggae More ska More polka > > One of the few musical genres that I continue to hate. > > It reminds me too much of polka and the macarena. > > Interesting point. It's true. It IS a bit polkaish. Do you really think so? Uhm... isn't polka supposed to be OOM-pah OOM-pah and ska more like oom-PAH oom-PAH...? I mean, they're both in 4/4 time, but the accentuation is different. Maybe I should play a polka record and a ska record back to back to hear the similarties that you refer to. Marco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #1078 ******************************