From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #114 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Thursday, May 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 114 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases (exotica) Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad Re: (exotica) Net radio (exotica) raga-pop record (exotica) AFRO-COOL RE: (exotica) 78s (exotica) Images, fantasies, and music [Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s] Re: (exotica) raga-pop record RE: (exotica) 78s Re: (exotica) Do any of you know ... (exotica) cleaning 78s (long) (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD RE: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s] (exotica) Re: 3 Motor Music releases (exotica) Re: Arthur Lyman's "Yellow Bird" (exotica) Tiki beach ?? (exotica) Is Sinatra exotic? A definitive answer (exotica) mildews and don'ts (exotica) cover cleaning Re: RE: (exotica) 78s (exotica) a coupla tings Re: (exotica) Godzilla ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:21:08 -0800 From: "mighty recording corp." Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? >Is Sinatra exotic?.... in the sense of Martin Denny, Baxter, Peter Thomas, >Yma Sumac, ... no. But in the sense of Scott Walker, Serge Gainsbourg, >Elvis, etc. yes. solid distinction/analogy for my money there. >The Sinatra image is exotica, in that he was an image before being a man. >The hard-drinking, swinging, hedonistic, devil-may-care, bar singer. And >besides he was surrounded by Exotica during his Capital years, no? Martin >Denny was part of the capital gang (am I correct?), Yma Sumac, etc. denny was on liberty for the most part, which became part of capitol much later. but sinatra did have les baxter record (non exclusively) for reprise from the start. so there were connections of some degree. paul moshay mighty recording corp. p.o. bx. 1833 los angeles, calif. 90078 (213) 851-5557, (213) 851-1551 fx new 'reply to' email now: mighty65@pacbell.net coming soon: http://www.mightyrecords.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:40:36 -0400 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? At 11:17 AM 20/05/98 -0600, Jill Mingo wrote: > >>If someone said to me, "I like exotica. I've got the Beach Boys." Well, I'd >wonder a bit. But if someone into exotica mentioned how much they liked the >Beach Boys, I'd know immediately what they were talking about. Your comments just kinda seemed like since you don't particularly see the exotic side of this band Okay, this is the last response, even if I do get flamed. I know this is getting tired. Already has for most, I'm sure. BUT what you said there about "I like exotica, I've got the Beach Boys", that was all I was saying. I didn't say that if someone included Beach Boys in exotica, I would think they missed the point. I said that if their exotica collection consisted of mostly or only Beach Boys records, I would think that I would also think something if their exotica collection consisted of ONLY Martin Denny records but I wouldn't say to them "Uh sorry but I don't think that's really exotica". Which I WOULD say about the Beach Boys, no matter how many tracks of theirs might qualify. If someone wants to say that there are elements of progressive jazz or classical music in Zappa, I wouldn't argue but I still wouldn't expect them to put the Mothers albums in with the progressive jazz. And if they did and especially if they had nothing that I called progressive jazz, I'd say yeah they missed the point. If someone here wants to discuss the Beach Boys or Bread or Uriah Heep, go right ahead. I'd rather talk about Curtis Mayfield than a whole lot of stuff that gets discussed here. I just react when someone seems to protest a little too much trying to justify that whatever they're talking about qualifies as "exotica". I'm no purist and I know that exotica is a very elastic and wide term, especially as used on this list, including as it does "lounge" and "easy listening" etc but I do think that you could stretch the elastic to the point that it would have no meaning at all. Like the word "alternative". Or "jazz" or "rock n roll". Look at some of the stuff the Columbia record club calls "alternative". .am I right to assume that you probably wouldn't buy their stuff - >note: I didn't say "dislike them", I just said you wouldn't buy their >stuff..) Yes. Although I did love Surf's Up at the time and I have picked up a couple of old collections at the Goodwill. (So I guess I lied.) But no, I wouldn't pay real money for them. > And I think there are plenty of people out there who could >understand their relevance in briefly discussing them from time to time on >the list. What I find interesting about a lot of the people here on the list is how wide their taste is. I would find it interesting to hear their stories of how they made the journey towards exotica, lounge etc. What was the music that led them "here". I could see someone saying that in retrospect, they realize that the Beach Boys were one of the influences that led them here. This track or that track especially. But that doesn't mean that I think that the music that led them here is, in itself, exotica. Much like Sinatra. He's seen as easy or lounge, which a lot of >exotica gets classified as. I don't see him as "exotic" although he probably >has the odd track that is. We agree. >It just seems that you took offense when someone questioned why there was so >much Sinatra talk and to try to justify your point, you started pointing out >how un-exotic the Beach Boys were. No. I posted about Sinatra only because I needed to let off some steam over the tributes that were pouring in. I now realize how immature that was. Let people say goodbye to their heroes. Wait till he's at least buried before you start slagging him... as you've been doing your whole life. As I've been doing... But I can see how you were confused in all that pro and anti-Frank flurry. I'm sure I was justifying some point or other when I brought up the Beach Boys but it wasn't to defend Frank, that's for sure. Or justify him as exotica. I think I just threw in the Beach Boys because I hadn't had an opportunity to whine in previous posts. > And then it was >discussed about their cancellation of working with The High Llamas, a band >that is quite commonly considered as modern exotica. Yeah, you see. There you go again. "Modern exotica"? Can't you just say that the people in the band are probably influenced by exotica? That people who like exotica may find something to like in this band? Does everything have to be cross-categorized? I love the High Llamas and I'm not surprised that some people here also do and there's no doubt a connection to exotica but... I don't know. This is a pretty small point I admit but I guess I'm passionate about those small points. I love the Tindersticks and I think they might be influenced by Serge Gainsbourg and I might even bring them up here some time but I just don't see the point of saying "Yeah and they really are an exotica band". >So I think it is relevant to give them the odd nod. And there were only a >handful of postings about them anyway. Like I said, I don't mind the odd or the even postings. I just react to the justifications. Maybe this won't be the last posting on this subject but I'm going to try and be finished with it myself. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:40:34 -0400 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) The distant and mysterious....Sinatra? At 06:02 PM 20/05/98 -0500, Hess Jeffery wrote: > >Good points indeed. Maybe I'm a purist, but when I evaluate an artist, >the music comes first and the other stuff is merely incidental such as >image, folklore, politics and such. Yes I'm sure it is easier to ignore all the other stuff if you weren't around when it came out but in general, I don't believe there is such a thing JUST the music. I don't think the music is separable from the image. Especially with Frank. You bought the record, you bought the image, the attitude, the fantasy etc etc. I think that the only music that might possibly be pure and unencumbered with image or attitude is the sound of the wind rustling through the trees and even that is tied up with all kinds of imagery for me. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:39:44 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) 3 Motor Music releases At 22:16 20/05/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>The Maurice Pop disc is great; it's that uptempo, horn driven late 60's >>'Sound Gallery' style of Discotheque a Go-Go. Highly recommended if you >>like that style. >Any idea where we could find this? Is this the same Motor that Andreas >Dorau is on? Yes, it is. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:32:18 PDT From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Soul Bossa/Sprite Ad Q's version of "Soul Bossa Nova" was for many years (1970s) the theme to a popular Canadian daytime quiz show called _Definition_. Dream Warriors, being from Toronto, no doubt picked up on the Q vibe from watching TV as kids - the tip off is in the repeated phrase "my definition" in "My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style". On a related note: has anyone seen this amazing Sprite commercial with sort of "Soul Bossa Nova"-y music? It has a woman who looks like George Costanza's mother washing clothes in a bowl of Sprite and a bowl of some other uncola; at the end, she drinks the Sprite bowl. The music is fabulous mid-60s easy - anyone recognize it? (I've seen it both on UK and on Canadian TV). From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:35:47 +0000 From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Net radio Charles Moseley wrote: >Can anyone recommend a radio station with internet access that plays >records that would appeal to Exotica subscribers and plays during >the daytime (UK daytime)? Well, there's a nice set from DJ Vishnu playing around the clock on: http://www.netradio.com/ Go to "Cafe Jazz" and select "Lounge" from the drop down menu. You'll need Real Player to hear it. Robbie - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:41:34 -0400 From: "Jody, Ruth and Michael Rosen" Subject: (exotica) raga-pop record About a year ago, I found a record in my college radio station's vinyl library. It was a late '60s recording of raga versions of "pop" songs of the time (sorta like "The Plastic Cow Goes Moog", only more, uh, sacred), and it featured a sitar n' tabla (etc.) arrangement of "Norwegian Wood". Can anybody tell me the title and artist of this LP? I'd like to use it to thumb my nose at all those folks who think Cornershop are so clever... - --Jody Rosen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:03:31 PDT From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: (exotica) AFRO-COOL Has anyone heard of this lp on GNP records? Musicians include Conte Candoli and Machito's Rhythm Section (Don't have the cover in front of me, so excuse omissions/mutilations). The cover is classic Exotica - a not overly-clad nymph inside a flaming ice cube. I ask because I bought the thing and, trusting natural that I am, neglected to inspect the interior. I was very bummed. Not a big loss costwise, but what about those sounds I may never hear? Ben Waugh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:00:13 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) 78s > again how best to give these discs a cleaning. > > > What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM: If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2 parts distilled or filtered water. Pour it over the vinyl and wipe circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it. (the towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new one or one washed in just soap and water). Let this dry, then drag a good old discwasher with some D4 across it for 3-5 revolutions and you are set. The discwasher is still the best "finishing" record cleaner known to mankind, since it is the only thing that gets INTO the grooves without damaging them severely. Would the other DJs on the list agree? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:51:41 -0500 From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: (exotica) Images, fantasies, and music Nat writes: >Yes I'm sure it is easier to ignore all the other stuff if you weren't >around when it came out but in general, I don't believe there is such >a thing JUST the music. I don't think the music is separable from the >image. Especially with Frank. You bought the record, you bought the >image, the attitude, the fantasy etc etc. I think that the only music that >might possibly be pure and unencumbered with image or attitude is >the sound of the wind rustling through the trees and even that is tied >up with all kinds of imagery for me. Don't get me wrong, I pick up on all the imagery and fantasy. My point is that some people will dismiss something solely on image w/out picking up on the art/music first. It's the art/music that conjures up all the images in the first place. Some people get it backwards that's all. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:58:43 +0100 From: Peter Hipwell Subject: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s] > > > again how best to give these discs a cleaning. > > > > > > > What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM: > > If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2 > parts distilled or filtered water. Pour it over the vinyl and wipe > circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it. (the > towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new one or > one washed in just soap and water). > I believe this is very, VERY bad advice as concerns SHELLAC 78s. Because shellac supposedly dissolves in alcohol. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:45:11 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) raga-pop record At 8:41 AM -0400 5/21/98, Jody, Ruth and Michael Rosen wrote: >About a year ago, I found a record in my college radio station's vinyl >library. It was a late '60s recording of raga versions of "pop" songs of >the time (sorta like "The Plastic Cow Goes Moog", only more, uh, sacred), >and it featured a sitar n' tabla (etc.) arrangement of "Norwegian Wood". > >Can anybody tell me the title and artist of this LP? I'd like to use it to >thumb my nose at all those folks who think Cornershop are so clever... It's "Raga Rock" by The Folkswingers, World Pacific Records, 1967 br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:59:29 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: RE: (exotica) 78s At 11:00 AM -0400 5/21/98, Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD wrote: >What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM: > >If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol........ Don't use alcohol on shellac 78's!! The best bet is Ivory Soap or another mild dishwashing soap. Special 78 brushes are available from sources like "78 Quarterly" magazine; they're designed to get into the deeper grooves. If you don't have a brush, just let them soak a bit and use a sponge. Put them in the dish rack to dry. The alcohol/water mix described is perfect for vinyl records. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 04:09:07 -0400 From: Peter Ledebur Subject: Re: (exotica) Do any of you know ... >Vik Trola writes: > >>there is a song by the dream warriors >snip< >>and i was wondering if anyone happens to know >>a. what i'm talking about >>and >>b. what they are sampling. > >a. yes >b. Quincy Jones "Soul Bossa Nova" which now has the >infamy of being the opening music to the dreadfully unfunny >Austin Powers... And ever since that movie came out, I've had people tell me "Hey, they used your theme song in Austin Powers!" Oh well, at least that proves that people *do* listen to my radio show. "Soul Bossa Nova" can be easily obtained on either the Austin Powers sound- track or the Cocktail Mix Vol.2 compilation, both currently in print on CD. Incidentally, the Dream Warriors song is how I heard "Soul Bossa Nova" originally, too. Peter - --- Music for Better Living Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3fm Newton/Boston http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:23:28 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) cleaning 78s (long) At 06:31 PM 5/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >I just came into a slew of 78s from the 1940s and early '50s. I'm pretty >sure it's been addressed on the list before but I hope you'll indulge me >as I ask again how best to give these discs a cleaning. >Anyone have expertise in this area? >Brett The important thing to determine is whether your 78s are shellac or vinyl. Under *no* circumstance should you use alcohol on shellac. There is a current school of thought that also advises against alcohol for vinyl cleaning, as it is thought that alcohol will leech out the stabilizers. I recommend you visit the following site: The Care and Handling of Recorded Sound Materials By Gilles St-Laurent Music Division National Library Of Canada January 1996 Here's an excerpt of the Cleaning section from the above page: Since dust is usually held in place by electrostatic attraction, dry wiping on its own does not work effectively. The added friction created by the duster will cause the dust to jump back to the charged surface.=20 Distilled water is used for cleaning records and CDs for many reasons. Its precise chemical makeup is known, it will not leave any residue behind, is safe to use, and is inexpensive. Water disperses static charges and counteracts the increase in conductivity from the pick-up of salt deposits from finger prints. However, water alone cannot dissolve grease, thus surfactants are used as additives to enable water to be a grease solvent. Surfactants break grease surface bonds and allow water to penetrate grease solids, causing swelling and then random dispersion.=20 General =95The Canadian Conservation Institute (CCI) recommends the use of nonionic, ethelyne oxide condensates surfactants to clean sound recordings. The CCI does not foresee long-term problems associated with the use of nonionic surfactants such as Tergitol. Tergitol 15-S-3 is an oil soluble surfactant and 15-S-9 is a water soluble surfactant. Combined they remove a wide range of dirt and greases and can safely be used on sound recordings. Use 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. (These products are available in small quantities from TALAS (Division of Technical Library Service Inc) 213 West 35th Street, New York, N.Y. (212) 465-8722.) The recording must then be rinsed thoroughly with distilled water to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. =95Keep an airgun handy to blow off light surface dust.=20 Grooved discs =95Grooved discs are best cleaned using a record cleaning machine such as= the Keith Monks, VPI, Nitty Gritty using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water. These machines allow for an even dispersion of fluid and can then vacuum the liquid leaving a clean, dry surface. The discs must then be rinsed thoroughly with distilled water and vacuumed dry to eliminate any trace of detergent residue. Records should be cleaned before each playback. =95Clean Vulcanite discs showing signs of acid build up using 0.25 part of Tergitol 15-S-3 and 0.25 parts of Tergitol 15-S-9 per 100 parts of distilled water and rinse thoroughly. =95Clean acetate discs showing signs of palmitic acid deposits (white greasy substance on acetate disc surface) as if cleaning LPs, except add 1 part ammonia per 100 to the Tergitol cleaning solution. Do not use ammonia on shellac based discs.=20 You may also want to visit these pages: Disk Doctor 78 Quarterly Wolverine Antique Music Society (be sure to go to the Links page, and look at the Collectables links) Hope this helps. - -Lou < # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:42:09 -0700 From: LeAnn & Dave Davidson Subject: (exotica) Another Crazy Cocktail Party CD Could I have possibly stumped the panel? Surely some of you fine folks out there can shed some light on my previous posting. Here it is again: I have a CD called "Another Crazy Cocktail Party - Shake Your Congas", on the BMG/RCA Victor label, apparently produced through BMG Ariola Belgium, 1996 and distributed through BMG USA. It's claim to fame is the song "Pancho", written by David Bowie for a 1960's European TV show (or so says a large yellow sticker on the front). It's kinda Latinesque/cha-cha stuff. I have been trying to find out about the artists on the disc (specifically, what years the songs were released), but have come up empty handed. And trying to get any info out of BMG is like pulling teeth. Does anyone know the years these songs were released, or any info on the artists? Here's the songlist: 1. Los Albinos - Bing Bang Conga 2. Ruben Calzado & Orchestra - Chiquito 3. The Golden Dream Orchestra - When the world was mine 4. Jo Carlier et Son Orchestre - Aquarella 5. Jean Claude Pelletier et Son Ochestre - Loin de mes yeux pres de mon coeur 6. Los Albinos - Go Go Conga 7. Jean Evans his piano & his strings - Blue Candlelight 8. The Boxeros - Los Patatos 9. Reg Owen & his Orchestra - Obsession 10. DeeDee & her Panchos - Pancho 11. Los Albinos - Chinese Conga 12. The Sadi Quartet - Blue Sunrise 13. The Peter Loland Orchestra - La Cucarachacha 14. Peter Krender his piano & his orchestra - Birds of paradise 15. Stan La Banm & his orchestra - A la salud 16. Los Albinos - The swinging conga 17. The Clippers - Forever 18. Willy Albimoor & his lucky 13 - Headin' north 19. Teddy Mertens his trumpet & his orchestra - Marijuana brass 20. Los Albinos - Frere Jacques conga Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:36:19 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: [Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD: RE: (exotica) 78s] Woah! Thanx Peter. I didn't think of that. Ouch. I stand corrected. It works well for vinyl, though. Including that funky "dynaflex" stuff from RCA in the early 70s. Charlieman > > What I usually do with all records, regardless of age or RPM: > > > > If they need it, mix 1 part alcohol (grain, rubbing, cheap vodka) with 2 > > parts distilled or filtered water. Pour it over the vinyl and wipe > > circularly with a VERY soft non-paper cloth with no chemicals on it. > (the > > towel that has been washed with fabric softener is no good, use a new > one or > > one washed in just soap and water). > > > > I believe this is very, VERY bad advice as concerns SHELLAC > 78s. Because shellac supposedly dissolves in alcohol. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:17:51 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: 3 Motor Music releases >From: BasicHip > >Has anybody heard any of these Motor Music (Germany) releases? >1) Martin Bottcher -- Sound Kaleidoscope >2) Gary McFarland -- Latin Lounge haven't heard the "pop" thing, but liked these 2 very much: 1) rated ++++ Sophisticated, tasteful, charming, graceful, pleasing, careful, clever EZ pop, never falling into clich=E9s or the obvious, with a bit of bossa nova, lots of wordless vocal chorus, strings, and even a light touch of jazz in 1 track. Reference artists: Burt Bacharach, Francis Lai , Johnny Mandel (all 3 honoured here with cover), Bert Kaepfert, Henry Mancini, Jobim, Stan Getz. 25 tracks in all, mostly from film and TV soundtracks. Relevant quote from the interview text in the booklet: "=8Ayou have to add something to a picture that is not existent yet= , otherwise your music is redundant") 2) rated ++++ Excellent lounge jazz, beautigful melodies (mostly his own compositions, wordless vocal covers of "Hard day's night", "Satisfaction", "More", and a Bacharach song). From the booket: "Warm and cool, relaxing and engaging, refreshing and provocative, elegant and casual. It's an apt description of the music of composer, arranger, conductor, vibraphonist and hummer/whistler, Gary McFarland". Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 16:10:32 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Arthur Lyman's "Yellow Bird" >From: "Steven Peterson" > >Has anyone ever heard Arthur Lyman's album, " Yellow Bird "? It's >supposed to released June 8 on cd. i liked it as much as his "taboo" and "taboo 2" albums, if that is any reference for you; have to add that i'm a huge fan of lyman! Johan quiet@village.uunet.be + dada@bewoner.dma.be --- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:26:33 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: (exotica) Tiki beach ?? Does anyone know of ANY tiki type bars/lounges/clubs in Wildwood, NJ? Please somebody tell me there is.... surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:08:38 +0000 From: "Robbie Baldock" Subject: (exotica) Is Sinatra exotic? A definitive answer Ron Grandia wrote: >I tend to believe this list uses the term "exotica" in the >absence of a better expression. No single word is going to >hit the idea squarely, so exotica will have to do. I agree whole-heartedly with this. I've always seen this list as a place where innumerable genres all intersect and join up with music which doesn't really have an obvious "genre". Any debate about whether so and so is or isn't "Exotica" is a waste of time as far as I can see it because the name of this list is basically an accident of birth. It just happens to be the case that is the only list of its kind and it happens to be called the "Exotica" list. I personally think that this name has long since ceased to be a particularly relevant description of the contents (just how much is there to say about Arthur Lyman anyway?!) as the genres covered by it have become more and more numerous. There is, nevertheless, a fuzzy sort of boundary to the kind of music I would expect to read about on this list and I would start to get a little restless if too much time were spent discussing the merits or otherwise of, say, the latest Celine Dion album... But so long as the topics range freely from the easiest of easy listening to the spaced out extremities of some new piece of electronica I'll continue to be a happy subscriber. So the definitive answer is: quit bickering! Robbie - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:44:38 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) mildews and don'ts Regarding my search for a fix for mildew (mold) on record covers, I got some advice from someone who works in art restoration. Quote: "Anyway, here's what I suggest: Lightly and carefully wipe off all of the visible mold spores with a damp rag or paper towel. Then, what we use at work to kill mold is something called Thymol. I don't know where you would be able to get that, but believe it or not Thymol is the main ingredient in Listerine. You could try wetting a rag with a little bit of Listerine and then wipe a SMALL section of a cover and record to make sure no damage is inflicted by any of the other ingredients. It should dry fairly quickly. Then I would suggest leaving the covers (not the vinyl for obvious reasons) in the sun for a bit 'cause that will also kill the mold spores. Not for too long though, keep an eye on them, because the sun could fade the colors on the covers. If you're not into experimenting with the Listerine then I would just try the sun." I've gotten to experiment with this a bit, and it is helpful. I used plain, unflavored Listerine (avoiding any flavoring that might lead to stickiness). I basically followed the outlined procedure. The initial cleanup with a towel dampened with water is very key -- it got a lot of slime and grime off. I'm not sure how much more the Listerine accomplishes, but I imagine it should kill anything that's left. And I didn't notice any problems with coloration or ink-bleeding. With the water OR the Listerine, it is a bit tricky (for me at least) to hit the right balance of 'wet enough' / 'too wet'. Be careful there. It would be a good idea to practice on reject covers first, until you get a feel for it. You don't want the cover to get too damp, or it'll curl or ripple. I put them in the sun between stages, actually, as well as the finishing step. As far as the results, they look a lot better. They still smell a bit, but at least they've gone from "fetid tomb breath" to "cabin in the woods." You can also try this on the inner sleeves, but being thinner paper, the moisture is a LOT more risky. And I can't see a very safe way of getting at the interior of the covers (or inner sleeves). It would be pretty easy to bust the seams poking around in there. Maybe just sit and hold them open to the sun? (just imagine what the neighbors will mutter about you) For the records themselves, I used the time honored 2 parts distilled water / 1 part denatured alcohol recipe, applied with a t-shirt. It pretty effectively removed the brown mold patches, and I would imagine the alcohol would also kill it. It may have left a bit of residue, but that might have been my own ineptitude. So, I hope this is helpful to anyone out there with some really stinky covers. Just take your time and do your experimenting on non-crucial pieces. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:11:40 -0700 From: Clark Scheffy Subject: (exotica) cover cleaning Another cover cleaning-related tip: Use Naptha (like Zippo lighter fluid) to remove all kinds of things... the gummy crap from price stickers, and on glossy or semi-glossy covers, it'll even remove permanent and ballpoint pen! Naptha is (was?) used as a drycleaning solution, and though it appears to discolor the cover when you use it, it dries up nice and clear and clean. I suggest being careful with rubbing too much when the cover is wet with Naptha, so you don't start to remove the cover graphic (especially on matte covers), but otherwise, you can pretty well douse a spot on a cover with naptha and have no problems. As far as I can tell, naptha isn't fatal to vinyl, but removing the LP before cleaning the cover is well-advised anyway. To remove sticker gum, I pour a small puddle around the sticker to soak it a bit -- you can tell when it's ready because the sticker will become translucent -- then peel up the corner of the sticker. I then take a naptha-soaked swab (e.g., a q-tip) and wipe along the underside of the sticker as I peel it away. This pulls the sticker off cleanly without removing cover art. You can then take a rag damp with more naptha and wipe the remaining residue. I've had great success with restoring written-on glossy covers to the point where you can't see any remnant of the writing. I've also nicely removed price stickers from many a record cover this way. Then, throw all your naptha-soaked rags in a tin pail and toss your cigarette butt in there. Cool! I credit Saturn Records for this tip. Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:44:38 EDT From: DJJimmyBee Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) 78s I still believe strongly in dish detergent, the soft side of a scrunge, PLENTY of detergent in the mix----and a thorough rinsing of course...A clean slice of vinyl requires over a gallon of warm water to rinse properly in my experience and I've washed over 5000 45's....Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:54:48 EDT From: DJJimmyBee Subject: (exotica) a coupla tings Those who are fans of "Stroboscopia" will be happy to hear that "I Gres" is out on both vinyl and CD. It is largely a breakdown of Stroboscopia types into finer delineations (sp?)...I dotted 8 songs as excellent on the CD, all in the E-Z funk/bossa/ and ballad realms........Congratulations to "Lounge" Laura and her band "Astroslut who have just released a 5-song CD sample of their work.........."Jimmy's Easy" has moved from Saturdays at 6am to Tuesdays at 6am on 88.1 FM, WMBR, Cambridge, MA at MIT (the "punks" still get prime time)...Spanks for the space, Jimmy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 18:10:30 -0700 From: "Larson/Thomas" Subject: Re: (exotica) Godzilla The Best of Godzilla 1954-1975, it's a nice collection of mostly serious sounding, orchestral soundtrack music with a few sound effects (e.g., ponderous footsteps) and Japanese-language vocals thrown in. "Mothra" song is absolutely great. Not campy like you might expect given the title. It's not a really a disk I listen to start-to-finish, but it's in my CD-Jukebox for shuffle-play. (Anyone else have a Jukebox? They're great and not that expensive.) - ---------- > From: Kirsten Whitley > To: exotica@xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) Godzilla > I just saw this ad in Collectors' Choice. Can anyone comment on The Best of Godzilla 1954-1975 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #114 *****************************