From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #170 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Thursday, July 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 170 In This Digest: (exotica) this Saturday: EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS in Baltimore (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) (exotica) Gershon Kingsley Hebrew album (exotica) Console to Coffin Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Re: (exotica) Zoila Augusta Emperatriz Chivarri del Castillo Re: (exotica) More finds Re: (exotica) Danger: Diabolik Re: (exotica) Sound of Munich (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) (exotica) Play your records backwards Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards (exotica) FAQ addditions (exotica) Re: highway hi-fi (exotica) Sushi 4004 Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that (exotica) Re: "Humming" RE: (exotica) Re: "Humming" (exotica) technical question Re: (exotica) FAQ Feedback Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Re: (exotica) technical question Re: (exotica) technical question (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra (exotica) HYPE: Basta reissues Raymond Scott Re: (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra Re: (exotica) Console to Coffin (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Re: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Re: (exotica) FAQ addditions and the word "REAL" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:53:14 From: Jay Schwartz Subject: (exotica) this Saturday: EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS in Baltimore Here's some info on another screening of the EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS program that was shown at Fez in NYC last year (and in Philadelphia the year before that). Look for EXOTICA MUSIC FILMS PT. 2 before the year is out!... The Secret Cinema presents "Exotica Music Films" at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema The 14 Karat Cabaret (lower level at M.A.P.) 218 W. Saratoga Street, Baltimore. (410) 962-8565 On Saturday, August 1, the Secret Cinema will present Exotica Music Films at The 14 Karat Cabaret's Club Footage Cinema. This collection of ultra-rare footage from a variety of sources -- including very early TV shows and film jukeboxes from the 1940s ("Soundies") and 1960s ("Scopitones") -- offers a chance to hear, and see, a wondrous assortment of international music, from a time before David Byrne rendered "World Music" a politically-correct bore. All of the films will be projected from 16mm film prints on a giant movie screen (not video). Doors open at 9:00 pm, and the screening begins at 9:30 pm. Admission is $6.00. The current explosion of interest in "exotica" music stems from the publication of Re/Search's Incredibly Strange Music books starting in 1993. Since then, prices for old Martin Denny albums have skyrocketed, bands like Combustible Edison and their ilk are exploring new "cocktail" music, and the success of Esquivel reissues and martini bars has prompted nearly every record label to start up a "lounge" division. Previously plentiful thrift-store records are getting hard to find, and the opportunity to see vintage exotica music performances on a big screen is a rare one indeed. Some program highlights... Korla Pandit - The handsome Hindu master of the Hammond organ captivated women with his beautiful music and hypnotic eyes, even though he never spoke during his 15-minute TV show, the first all-music program on television. We will screen a complete episode of this show, plus other rare clips of Pandit and his haunting, mystical sounds. Korla was seen recently in the film Ed Wood, and Fantasy has reissued some of his original '50s albums. Yma Sumac - Exotica personified, the beautiful Peruvian legend burst onto the international scene in 1950, displaying all four of her octaves on the LP Voice of the Xtabay, and creating new musical languages with her abstract, wordless vocals. We'll show a kinescope of Sumac performing on The Frank Sinatra Show, from his CBS television show of the early 50s. The Three Suns - Another cause c=E9l=E8bre of the Incredibly Strange books, this guitar/organ/accordion instrumental trio from Philadelphia sold lots of albums for RCA in the '50s and figure prominently on that label's Space Age Pop series of CDs. Guitarist Al Nevins teamed with Don Kirshner in 1959 to form Aldon Music, which became the most successful music publisher of the Brill Building era. We will present rare early footage of the group from 1944. French pop music - A collection of colorful rock video-like film clips made in the early '60s for the French film jukebox known as Scopitone. Performers include "Ye Ye" singers Fran=E7oise Hardy, Johnny Hallyday, and Sylvie Vartan, plus torch singers, jazz and other French oddities. Plus...Hawaiian sing-alongs, Latin music from the 1940s, and much more! The Secret Cinema, begun in 1992, is a Philadelphia-based floating repertory film series that shows unusual and lost film fare of all types at various locations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 02:33:04 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) Do I get the idiot award or what? First off, Thanks for all the quick responses to my problem! But as it turns out it, isn't what's wrong with the CD, Its more like something is wrong with me. When Mike finally got home, I asked him about it and he said I was looking on the wrong side of the CD. All this time I thought the picture side of the CD with the graphics, etc. was the part that the CD "reads". It turns out it is the bottom. So all this time I've been being careful with the wrong side of my CDs! How could I have known? I didn't get lessons with my first CD purchase that said how to clean the thing or what side was what! So I am the dummy here. He saw 2 big goops on it and we wiped it off and it is good as new. Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15 to replace this CD. I'm going to save all these good responses for the next time it happens. - - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:50:45 -0700 From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: (exotica) Gershon Kingsley Hebrew album While at a record store today, I found an album called "The Fifth Cup - A Spirit Explosion", by Norman Simon and Gershon Kingsley, with narrations by Theodore Bikel. It was $6, which is usually more than I like to pay for something I haven't heard before. It is described in the liner notes as "a contemporary version of the Passover Seder", and the liner notes were written by Rabbi Z. David Levy of Morristown, NJ. Kinglsey is credited as playing piano, melotron, and moog synthesizer. I'm trying to imagine what Hebrew music and a moog would sound like. Has anyone heard this? Is it worth $5.99 plus sales tax? Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:54:01 PDT From: "keir keightley" Subject: (exotica) Console to Coffin "Technically" speaking, in the 50s "coffin" was used by hi-fi addicts to refer to giant _speakers_ (think Klipschorn, E/V Voice of the Theater, etc) that ate up so much space in the living room their wives complained "Get that coffin out of here!" Just thought you might like to know... From BossaNovaVille, Keir ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:05:36 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) > I'm relieved I won't have to shell out $15 > to replace this CD. > Why should you? If something was wrong with the CD the shop must replace it. Or what? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:09:13 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoila Augusta Emperatriz Chivarri del Castillo > Brian Phillips wrote: > > > > Yes! Yma Sumac was NOT a woman born in Brooklyn with the name Amy Camus. > > She was born in Peru and her real name is Zoila Emperatriz Charrari del > > Castillo and Yma Sumac is a bastardization of her Indian name > cheryl wrote: > It sounds more intriguing, but I have my doubts...Just because > VideoHound says so, does that mean it's true??? > > cheryl (queen of skeptics) Have you read that chapter in Incredible Strange Music Part 2, where she allegedly writes about herself? If that's all made up, then it is at least well done. Her words are "supplied" by her manager Alan Eichler, who lives in LA. Does somebody from the list perhaps know him? MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:02:19 +0100 From: Peter Hipwell Subject: Re: (exotica) More finds > From: "Charles Moseley" > > The Strip Goes On by The Orchestra Werner Muller - fantastic LP themed > around stripping with a track sampled by Bentley Rhythm Ace - 'I love it!'. > German sleaze - I love it too. > This is excellent; one of Muller's finest moments, out of a lot of fine moments. Other great stuff by him includes "Hawaiian Swing" (has been mentioned severally on the list), "On The Move" (for the versions of Istanbul and Calcutta) and, believe it or not, "The Sumptuous Strings Of The Werner Muller Orchestra". I tend to avoid things with words like "string" and an adjective indicative of swelling, but since getting "The Strip Goes On" I've picked up everything by Herr. M. I've seen. There's some really off-the-wall stuff in this one. The arrangement of "Flight of the Bumblebee" would pass off adequately as title music for a film such as "Shaft Vs. The Swarm". "Holiday For Strings" starts off in the expected manner, but with "sonar" underneath, has some funky brass, diverts for a louche laid back guitar solo, and so on. "Hora Stacatto" suddenly becomes invaded by electronic blurple. "Yellow Canary" is done as a 200mph bat-audible shrilling piece. "Gypsy Strings" starts off with bongos, and stops and starts and screws around. Strange, very strange, incredibly strange. > But why can't I find a copy of Birds and Brass? Dunno. Those albums seem really hard to find, although there's a "Golden Hour" compilation that I've seen a few times; some good tracks on that. Stan Butcher also did an album -- damn, can't remember the title -- of "gangster music", which has Al Capone on the cover with a speech bubble saying "Die young and leave a good-looking corpse." It's 20s-30s music in an authentic style, with a couple of originals and a cod-Chicago voiceover doing story links, sort of. I'm sure I've got some other stuff by him, but again my faulty memory fails me. - -- Pete. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:10:28 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Danger: Diabolik >Hello everyone. I recently had the pleasure of renting the movie Danger: >Diabolik starring John Philip Law (the blind angel in "Barbarella"). In >addition to the great set design and general crime thriller, erotic fantasy >a go-go vibe, I really enjoyed the soundtrack by Ennio Morricone. It had a >psychedelic, spy guitar, swingin' beat kind of feel with some great wordless >female vocals. Definitely different than the operatic spaghetti western >sound of his earlier stuff. Does anyone know if the Danger:Diabolik >soundtrack was ever released on vinyl or CD? As far as I know, no to both. Certainly it is not one of the many reissued soundtracks of Morricone that one can purchase on CD. Has some of this music appeared >on any of the recent Italian soundtrack compilations? Actually, CHRISTY's "Deep Down" has appeared on two compilation as of very recently. "Arriva La Bomba" on Irma la Douce and "Canto Morricone Vol. 1" on Bear Family Records. Both are EXCELLENT compilations. The former being a cod Northern Soul, Italian-style compilation and the latter being just out featuring SONGS by Morricone including vocalists like Astrud Gilberto, Francoise Hardy and The Sandpipers. This one features songs from the 60s and I couldn't give it a higher recommendation. The "Canto Morricone Vol. 2" features Western Songs and Ballads and even though I was a bit skeptical about this one at first,the operatic style has quickly grown on me making this CD a definite must. Apparently 2 more Canto Morricone volumes are coming in autumn,but I have no idea what the themes are for those... Enjoy! Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:17:20 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound of Munich This subject heading struck me as amusing as there is a band from Munich called The Merricks who have an LP out called "The Sound of Munich". It's about a year or so old and is pretty fabulous - sort of a take on this disco pop. Remixes are coming soon, though I am not sure who is doing all of them. I think there are a few techno cats. I wrote about it on the list when it came out, and I still stand by it. It is on Sub Up Records (Germany) and is apparently making an impression on the Japanese market... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:35:41 +0100 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky with a face as pale as a bucket. She is considerably larger than the average Peruvian and looks like her family has been on a plentiful high protein diet for a couple of generations. Call me sceptical but I would place her in Central Manhattan over the Peruvian Andes anyday. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:13:17 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Well...I hope your nephew is proud of you, but why can't she be fairer of skin? There was colonization in Peru, too (not knowing her lineage). I, for one, look like this http://www.mindspring.com/aboutms/team/support/bphillips.html and I am part West Indian (Jamaica, Barbados, Grenada on my father's side) and my mother's folks are from Virginia. My brother is darker than myself and we have (of course!) the same set of parents. People are a rainbow of colors just as exotica is a rainbow of sounds and since I have not been to the Andes and have not seen all of the people, I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Even if she was from Brooklyn, wotta voice! Brian Phillips The only reason I wanted to see this in the FAQ was that I have heard this question MANY times and I think that as popular as she was and is, this is a good addition. Maybe the word "probably" added judiciously would please the skeptics. >I've just seen Yma's 'Legend of Jivarro' cover in a Soho record shop and if >she's Peruvian then I'm a monkey's uncle. Without getting into racial >stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and >generally non-western European in apperance. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:33:14 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) The Idiot Awards (Help! CD skips!) In a message dated 98-07-30 02:35:40 EDT, a slightly confussed exoticat wrote: << I asked him about it and he said I was looking on the wrong side of the CD. All this time I thought the picture side of the CD with the graphics, etc. was the part that the CD "reads". >> Shit, that explains why I can never get my record player to play that little label thingy in the middle of my record. The damn needle would just slide across it every time I tried to cue it up. I thought it was like a bonus cut or something. Totally embarrased, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:55:18 +0100 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: (exotica) Play your records backwards 1.....Unscrew your turntable cartridge and screw it on again upside down so that the needle points upwards. 2.....Turn the weight on the other end of your tonearm so that the cartridge end is now lighter than the weighted end. 3.....Now you need to lift your record up off the turntable by about 4 inches. I use a roll of gaffer tape on it's side and put the record on top. 4.....The needle, pointing upwards will now be underneath the record, pushing upwards and will play backwards. This is especially effective on a 1210 but will work with any newish record player. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:59:59 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Did all that. Now every record I own talks about Paul McCartney being dead. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:49:20 -0400 From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) FAQ addditions Thanks for all the (basically positive) feedback about the proposed FAQ. I don't have any problems with the revisions people have suggested, so maybe I'll just post version 1.1 next week so you can all have another look at it. I think it would help most if people could send me complete Questions and *Answers*! As far as the suggested additions: I seem to recall Lazlo's list homepage already had instuctions for subscribing, a list of links, etc (I really will have to go look again). Keeping a list of Exotica URLs updated would be ongoing work, any volunteers for that one? I think my own bookmarks are pretty out of date. I can search through my saved digests for references to recommended books, but don't personally feel all that confident about writing that entry--I only own 3 exotica-related books myself! I suppose there should be some list of the essential artists and labels, but I dreaded the flame wars that would result when people go, "you included Enoch Light but left out Edmundo Ros!?!?!" Perhaps one workable scheme would be for people to (privately) mail me lists of the TOP TEN ARTISTS, who had mostly good albums, and who they would generally tell newbies to look out for. I will weight what various people send me to come up with the final shortlist. I like Peter's suggestion of a list of "the one good album by artists who should otherwise be avoided." But that one will take a lot of suggestions from the rest of you. . . Yours in Hi Fi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: highway hi-fi A friend of mine sent me this cool info on a record player that plays in your car. The site states: "Hey, vinyl fanatics, have you ever wished you could listen to your records while cruising in your car? From the mid-50's to the early 60's, Chrysler made this dream a reality with two generations of in-car phonographs. The original Highway Hi-Fi hit the streets in Autumn of 1955." For more information check out the site at: http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/hiwayhifi.html Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:40:19 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: (exotica) Sushi 4004 Got my promo copy of the Sushi 4004 compilation today. Fantastic stuff. Maybe a little more twisted than the last compilation. A few wacked out indie tinged ones. Some samba/bossa type numbers. Even a drum and bass type track. The Sean O'Hagan remix of Cornelius' "The Microdisneycal World Tour" is a must have. Also rather into the ever so warped YOSHINORI SUNAHARA's "2300 Hawaii" and TAKAKO MINEKAWA's "Fantastic Cat". Modern-tinged lounge-pop. Coming on Bungalow on Aug. 31st.... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:46:48 -0700 From: Steve Sando Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and all that At 01:35 PM 7/30/98 +0100, Charles Moseley wrote: >Without getting into racial >stereotypes, I thought native Peruvians are dark skinned, black haired and >generally non-western European in apperance. Yma looks like a big honky >with a face as pale as a bucket. She is considerably larger than the >average Peruvian and looks like her family has been on a plentiful high >protein diet for a couple of generations. Call me sceptical but I would >place her in Central Manhattan over the Peruvian Andes anyday. Well, I'd say you *are* getting to racial stereotypes! For what it's worth, I met her after a concert in the the 80s and although I much prefered the Amy Camus story, I came away thinking she was the real thing. MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107 "Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:56:21 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Re: "Humming" Speaking of humming, have ANY of you noticed that SOMEBODY is humming (off = key) on some of the Arthur Lyman LP's???? If I recall correctly, sounds = like he's humming along with the vibes..... I swear I hear very faintly someone humming away - and I'm beginning to = wonder if perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually = owned and loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift = shops........I can just imagine this guy sitting in his (fake) leather = over-stuffed recliner humming away to his Lyman albums with his eyes = closed and a look of total contentment on his face........ Wish I could recall the albums that this occurs on, but maybe someone will = concur?? Or maybe it IS a ghost (Ooooooo Spooooky Kids!) (Which I'd like = to think is really the case anyway!!) - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:41:54 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: "Humming" > perhaps this is the trapped spirit of the old guy who actually owned and > loved these records before I picked 'em up at the thrift shops > Or maybe it is that etheric low frequency turntable feedback...:) surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:00:50 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) technical question Can anybody tell why some mails don't stay in their block and the sentences become 4 feet and longer? It's like every 15th or so mail that does that and no "expert" knows exactly why. Who's "fault" is it, the sender's or the recipients? ***MO*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:14:04 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ Feedback cheryl wrote: > (After all, wouldn't it be disappointing for her manager to > come out now and admit that the whole "legend" of her being an Incan > Princess was made up?) > > cheryl (still skeptical!) You should talk him into subsribing to the Exotica list; his adress is in the book. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:14:58 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Isn't that getting a bit TOO exotic? But while you're at it: On one album of DER PLAN, "Es ist eine fremde und seltsame Welt", there is a secret backwards Satanic message! Go get it! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:15:41 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac and ain't I a sight? Brian Phillips wrote: > The only reason I wanted to see this in the FAQ was that I have heard this > question MANY times and I think that as popular as she was and is, this is > a good addition. Maybe the word "probably" added judiciously would please > the skeptics. It's like the never ending quest wether Amanda Lear is a man or a woman... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:05:40 -0500 From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: (exotica) Play your records backwards Brian Phillips writes: >Did all that. Now every record I own talks about Paul McCartney being >dead. And Hank Williams' wife comes back, his dog comes back to life, and he sobers up. Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:30:49 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Ron Grandia wrote: > I THINK it is because some folks do not use the return key and let their > email > program "wrap" the text for them. Of course I use the return key only when I want to make a paragraph. > This means that the text string has no > return characters to tell your computer when to break to the next line. > Most email programs > have a "wrap long lines" command somwhere that will fix this for you. So you are saying that some e-mail programms don't habe a "wrap" command or that some users haven't activated it? > I suspect the same forces are at work when an email is received that > has a bunch of half-lines and weird formatting (I notice my messages > to others suffer from this, and I am working to solve this. It may be > because > the size of individual's email windows differ, and the the formatting does > not always translate...or something.... Just a theory. My wrap long lines command is set to 72 characters a line. Is that standard? I suggest we all agree on one standard, so that the mails we recieve look better. How can a user find out if his mails arrive in an unwrapped state? We should mention it, because I tend to not even read those mails when Im in a hurry and don't take the time to edit them with the edit message command. So today it was Nathan Miner who's mail arrived 3 feet wide... MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:38:17 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) technical question Is it possible that the "wrap lines" command applies to the mails that you get, whereas the length of the lines of the mails that you send is determined by the size of the window that you are using while you write? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0400 From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra How 'bout this one: Ever heard of the William Kealoha Orchestra? On a whim, I bought a jacketless record, with the no-frills title of "Hawaii," by this group awhile ago. Took me a good few weeks to getting around to playing it & I didn't have high hopes. Totally caught me off guard ... it's truly great. I find myself bypassing my Denny's and Lyman's pretty often & throwing this on instead. The thing is, because it has no jacket, I've got no info whatsoever. The "Orchestra" is a bit of misleading record company bombast, I think. Much more a tight combo. No strings or brass. Just some cool vibes & chimes, percussion, puctuating jazz & slide guitar, rhythm uke. Interesting song selection, too, for what looks like it might be a one-shot/once-out. No Quiet Wedding War Chant Oe, etc. It's got Maui Chimes, Sweet Lei Lehua, Hula Alua, Waipo, Honalulu Lu, Hawaiian Shuffle, Ainahau, Flower of the Islands, Pineapple Pete, Ma Poina de Lau, Sammy's Hula, Moorea. Anyone ever hear of these guys? - -chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:05:45 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) HYPE: Basta reissues Raymond Scott NOW AVAILABLE direct from Basta Audio/Visuals: http://www.Basta.nl The RAYMOND SCOTT CD, RECKLESS NIGHTS AND TURKISH TWILIGHTS has been updated, revised, & remastered 24-bit sound! Includes previously unreleased alternate takes! "We found an alternate take of 'Oil Gusher' where the drums are more prominent in the middle section. The performance is comparable to that on the first CD, & it has been substituted for the newly found version," producer Irwin Chusid commented. "Even better is a stunningly different take of 'At An Arabian House Party' - -- one of two numbers on the CD by the RS Orchestra -- that features 'comic' horns a la the Quintette in the intro, a great guitar solo in the middle, & a neat tom-tom fill at the end, none of which were on the version used on the '92 release." 24-bit sampling allows for a fuller presence in the transfer from metal master to digital format. Meaning: it sounds a lot better, brighter, more alive. There's more bass, & richer textures. "The overall sound is far superior to the first CD issue," Chusid continues. "We continue to be amazed at discovering the bass in these tracks, especially as compared to the CD. We're doing only light CEDAR-ing [declicking & decrackling]. Most discs are very clean sounding. The remastered CD is available NOW direct from Basta Audio Visuals. Visit BASTA Audio/Visuals on the web to order: http://www.Basta.nl email BASTA: basta@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:11:35 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) William Kealoha Orchestra >Ever heard of the William Kealoha Orchestra? No, but according to http://www.allmusic.com he has an album on Roulette called "Hawaiian Luau" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:27:30 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Console to Coffin Nowadays "coffin" often refers to the console that mobile jocks carry their two 12's and their mixer installed in...Jimmy/proud coffin owner since 1981 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:16:06 +0100 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Anyone out there know anything at all about a singer songwriter called Robert Tennison? He was/is a pretty fair writer of catchy MOR tunes. He had an album out in the early 70's called "Two words, three words", under the name of the Robert Tennison Troup. Wonder where he is now? (Altavista search revealed nowt). Many thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:42:25 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry According to http://www.bmi.com/repertoire, these are his compositions: P.S. I got a bit of a start when you said Robert Tennison Troup. I thought, "How hard can it be to find info on Bobby Troup? BEST OF LIFE IS YET TO GO CAUSE YOU ARE HERE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS COME TO ME DON T BE AFRAID DON T FORGET YOU CARED FAREWELL GOOD BYE I CAN SEE I CAN SEE YOU WON T REMEMBER I DON T KNOW I DON T KNOW HOW I DON T KNOW WHAT I M GOING TO I SAY GIRL I WANT YOU I WANT YOU EVERY DAY I WON T BELIEVE THE PAST I WOULD HAVE SAVED ALL MY LOVE IF I CAN LIVE AGAIN JUST LIKE A FOOL LOVE IS REALLY THERE IF YOU WI LOVE IS TO LOVE MY WORLD OF MAKE BELIEVE SAVE YOUR TALK TELEPHONE CALLS TWO WORDS THREE WORDS WATCH ME NOW HEAR ME NOW WHAT ELSE COULD I SAY WHAT I M GOING TO DO WORLD OF MAKE BELIEVE YES YOU KNOW YOU AND I YOU WERE SUSPICIOUS YOU WON T SAY YOU LL MISS ME # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:16:06 +0100 From: Hugh Petfield Subject: (exotica) Robert Tennison enquiry Anyone out there know anything at all about a singer songwriter called Robert Tennison? He was/is a pretty fair writer of catchy MOR tunes. He had an album out in the early 70's called "Two words, three words", under the name of the Robert Tennison Troup. Wonder where he is now? (Altavista search revealed nowt). Many thanks, Hugh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:00:27 -0400 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ addditions and the word "REAL" At 09:49 AM 30/07/98 -0400, Ross Orr wrote: > >Thanks for all the (basically positive) feedback about the proposed FAQ. Sorry for coming a little late to this. I've actually had to go OUT to work for the first time since I joined the list. At first I thought that the FAQ might include the idea that for the purposes of this list, exotica included almost all instrumental music EXCEPT... and then you could list the genres of music that DIDN'T apply. In other words, I thought it might be easier to make a list of what exotica ISN'T - at least for the purposes of this list - than what it IS. So for instance, exotica would include jazz-influenced music but strictly speaking "bebop" wouldn't be included in exotica... unless it were really badly done. And I don't think I've seen anyone try to extend exotica into "hot jazz", thank God. (Let the hot jazz boys stay in their own little corner.) And classical music wouldn't be included in exotica but a lot of the music is influenced by classical music. And "ethnic" music is probably at the heart of a lot of exotica but I haven't read too much here - thank God again - about polkas. And as I went through this process, trying to list the exceptions, I began to realize that maybe listing the exceptions was going to be just as hard as listing the inclusions. But somehow I still consider it a worthwhile quest. When I think about the exceptions I would make and when I try to characterize them, it occurs to me that somebody - but maybe not me - could come up with a way of characterizing the exceptions. Myself I would probably feel comfortable saying "It includes jazz but not REAL jazz, classical music but not REAL classical music, ethnic music but not REAL ethnic music....." But in the past I've heard from people here when I used the word "real". It works for me but maybe it wouldn't work for the list in general. Maybe another way at it would be to use the phrase "ILL ADVISED". So exotica would be any record that was - "ill-advisedly" - made for a certain market. Or maybe you could add the words "CASH IN". Any ill-advised record made to cash in on a certain trend. I think both those terms would apply to almost every moog record ever made. (Unfortunately it might also apply to Alice in Chains.. but we could limit it to a certain period in musical history.) There are exceptions to everything of course but these ideas kind of work for me, especially the "ill advised" one. For a lot of people here I think, especially the thrift store junkies, the basic appeal of this music has a lot to do with going back through the junk heap of musical history and sort of "reinstating" or "rehabilitating" certain genres of music which I believe were often "legitimately" snubbed at the time. Now that the context into which these records were released is long passed, we can look at them with fresh eyes... and with our newly developed bad taste. And suddenly a record of instrumental Beatle covers is no longer an insult to a whole generation but instead it's a pretty cool record. In fact, it's something that you'd much rather hear than the original tunes. I hope Ross can sum this all up and add it to the FAQ, after it's attacked of course. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #170 *****************************