From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #179 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Wednesday, August 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 179 In This Digest: (exotica) oncoming tv (exotica) Disney again! Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, um...hisself?) Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit Re: (exotica) Disney again! Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry Re: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts Re: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts Re: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply (exotica) Nathan van Cleave (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ... (exotica) sorry...... (exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary? (exotica) sorry ... (exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach (exotica) Question List - Please re-post Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply (exotica) Gravelands (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . (exotica) Another Cool Book Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:40:11 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) oncoming tv A few things this coming weekend on US teletubbies, er television... (eastern daylight times) Saturday morning - 7:00am, Sunday morning - 4:00am - A&E - "Beat The Devil" (1954) A droll, casual comedy directed by John Huston, scripted by Huston and Truman Capote. Set mostly in a small Mediterranean sea-port, Humphrey Bogart, Gina Lollobrigida, Jennifer Jones, Robert Morley, Peter Lorre and a few others play ne'er-do-wells out to make money on African uranium claims. Shot on location in Italy. It feels like they were all just hanging out and decided to do a movie. I know that's not true, but that's the wonderfully casual feeling the movie has. Saturday night/Sunday morning - 2:00am - AMC - "Murder, Inc." (1960) No-nonsense true tales crime saga with Peter Falk as syndicate killer, Abe Reles. With Stuart Whitman, Henry Morgan, May Britt, Sarah Vaughan, Joseph Campanella, Morey Amsterdam. Memorable for the scene where "Columbo" stabs "Buddy" in the gut. Sunday - 1:05pm, 8:00pm, Monday morning - 5:00am - Bravo - The "Dusty Springfield: Full Circle" documentary gets a few more airings. Very good, lots of cool 60s footage. Presented by Jennifer Saunders and Dawn French. Sadly, if you haven't heard, Dusty is now in her second battle with cancer. Sunday night (or is it Monday morning) - Midnight, Monday - 7:00pm, Tuesday - 5:00am - Bravo - The recently mentioned "Soul Of Stax" documentary runs again. It's not actually a new production from Bravo, but a French/British production done a few years ago. "Teletubbies" -- er, yes. Fans of unusual television should indeed catch an episode. I wouldn't want to make a habit of watching it, but I have seen one episode, and it's definitely very odd. Then again, if you can't handle "sickly pop" (to use Jill's phrase), you might want to steer clear. Check your local PBS station's morning schedule. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:39:34 EST From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Disney again! Nat wrote: > << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! > End of discussion. I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past, being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds, I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become. In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed, Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of course usually around key holidays and with convenient product launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on the remakes... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, um...hisself?) - ---Lou Smith wrote: > > > Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft. Letīs give them a clue: try nearest Thrift store #P# _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter C Subject: Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit - ---Lou Smith wrote: > > >KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence, betterknown as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54. >Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said. Sounds more like Voodoo to me #P# _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:05:58 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again! Brian Karasick wrote: > I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the > Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past, > being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds, > I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become. > > In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed, > Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney > films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of > course usually around key holidays and with convenient product > launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem > to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to > get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on > the remakes... After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:06:28 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian delegate: approved! MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:06:58 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply Carl Russo wrote: > First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate > Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998) > > "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent? Or do people > really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American > entertainment? Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed > by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third > World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks > constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states? Or are we all too > besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of > mouse ears darkening the land?" While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul that ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland remains. It is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on one hand and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other. You can actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland of manipulation "between the lines". An extremely interesting subject, that, nonetheless, has very little or nothing to do with the "mission" of the Exotica Mailing list. IS there a Disney list? MO* http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:34:30 +0100 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within thri= ft stores boring? Yes Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? = Yes I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Bri= xton (south London). Last night on my way home, I turned on GLR where I hear= d some obscure rare groove. When the DJ turned to his guest, Lo and behol= d it was Mark, anorak supreme and accumulator of over =A31,000,000 worth of records in his bedroom. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3= 300 for records and regularly features descriptions such as: 'Obscure Greek fun= k LP with tight grooves and a touch of jazz - outstanding track 'Good Man' -= =A3275. And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl..... Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 04:47:23 PDT From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions Nat wrote:- >Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do >prefer Cugat and Prado yes. I don't think they took it seriously >either. I don't really know what serious mambo is. I think all these >guys did "American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a >hoot about authenticity. And neither do I. Without getting into Cuban politics (Please), Mambo is "American-ized" that is the real mambo, exiles music, more New York and Florida than Havana. The authenticity was embracing American tastes. >Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another >terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews. I >heard a similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working >the circuit in the sixties. Clever medleys are for some reason, still >at the bottom of the list for me. Very good point. I agree with you, I was merely saying that Edmundo's inappropriateness is what I like (also some backing vocal arrangements) >>You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your >>exotica with a puritan flavour! >Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the >anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste), >I'm used to flames. I apologise, that was certainly not intended as a flame. >It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan" >in the same sentence. CUT >If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to >give those puritans another look. >How about another word? Joy. I misconstrued your distaste for Edmundo, I thought it was over his commercialism etc. which would, given the nature of this list be, I think a mite strange. As I've said before it is the reclaiming of discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of exotica. Like in the Spanish film "Accion Mutante" where a gang of ugly rebels break up a society wedding party shouting "you're all lobotomised by beauty and coolness" we liberate the grievously unhip and appreciate old pop culture. In such a situation being authentic is not an issue, as Brian Eno said about soul, everybody's faking. And they are you know, it's called art and it can be good or bad. I wouldn't suggest Ros is better than Prado or Cugat, but he is worthy of a spin on the Technics. >Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side. OUch! all the best rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry I just bumped into this in the letters section of Golmine magazine. " Hippies are Beatniks Your featured 5-Star Record in issue 464 (Goldmine, May 8, 1998) was Rod Mckuen Takes a San Francisco Hippie Trip. This Everest label featured in your article actually took Rod McKuen's Beatsville (1959) which is found on the Hi-fi label, and changed the album title and song titles in order to attract the 1967 hippie listeners. Songs on the original Beatsville record include Co-existence Bagel Shop Blues, Haik poems, and a Gallery of Assorted Beats. In other words San Francisco Hippie Trip is Beatsville." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:28:41 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts You hate finding beaten up records...I understand, but one of the most pleasant surprises to me in collecting this genre is the amount of records in excellent condition, nearly untouched, unlike 6T's and 7T's rock and soul which inevitably is beaten un, especially in thrift shops...Jimmy/"Jimmy's Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:30:29 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts I can't figure out why Emerson College, Boston didn't call one of the MASNY excellent used record stores in their immediate area to come down and buy the vinyl they threw out..Lack of communication from a Communications College apparently # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:32:54 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity Bert Kaempfert's songs really come alive when Wayne Newton sings them on the old Capitol recordings: Danke Schoen, Wiedersein (sp?), Remember When, others....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:09:56 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1 >I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both >discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Brixton >(south London).=20 >I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list >which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3300 >And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl..... > Most dealers should know about what they sell. I know Mark too and I think he sells a few things a bit on the pricey side although his selection of stuff is rather tasty. Just because a record sells for a lot of money doesn't make it good. Although most good records that are hard to find generally can sell for a lot of money. Or you can find 'em at a thrift= store... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:22:58 -0700 From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply At 10:12 AM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote: > >>>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion. The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out of print reguarly. What's the reason why a video is released, only to stop releasing it 18 months later, then wait seven more years only to release it in the theatres, followed by another 18-month video release? I'll tell you this much - it has nothing to do with Disney Corp's love for kids. Walt would be ashamed. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:32:45 +0200 From: "Basta Audio Visuals" Subject: (exotica) Nathan van Cleave Anyone knows where to find a picture or photo of Mr. Nathan van Cleave ? Really need this for a new album coming up. ASCAP doesn`t have it, nor do they give phonenumbers of relatives. I have searched on the Net, but no pictures of him. If anyone has a picture, please contact me at basta @ xs4all . nl Thanks Jeroen van der Schaaf Basta Audio Visuals www.basta.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:38:24 -0400 From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ... It should be noted too, that Kaempfert was at least partially responsible for penning the canonized -- if ultimately mediocre -- tunes "Danke Schoen" (as already mentioned), "Wonderland by Night," "Spanish Eyes," and "Strangers in the Night." BTW, ever notice how these four are really essentially the same song? Which, I think, points up why Kaempfert's stuff is oddly compelling to me (you were *dying* to hear what I had to say, weren't you .... no?). To me, Bert was such a skilled formulist (like Conniff & Alpert, who also share a similar ill-repute), that he went about creating a sound that's so distinctly his own that there's no mistaking a Kaempfert recording. And, it's a sound that's uniquely evocative of a certain mid-Sixites suburban experience. (That experience? Well, grocery shopping.) Of course, he had those quirky perky tunes that were used so often for "please stand by" stock on UHF channels (just like Alpert's stuff). I also seem to recall them being used as theme songs for cheapo 3pm cartoon shows I used to watch while sporting training pants & eating Graham crackers. (There's also an Xmas tune used ... unless I'm mis-remembering ... pretty often to sell Ronco crap on TV in the 70s. Same tune, I think, used in Christmas with the Schmenges on SCTV.) Now, the problem is (as has been pointed out here), that there's maybe a small compilations-worth of these quirky tunes, and the rest of his stuff is pretty shuffling and conventional. Distinctively Kaempfert, to be sure, but your mind really can't help but wander while listening to this stuff. Unless .... you're a bonehead like me & find even his duller tunes to be interesting now & again. There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me in. Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really taking responsibility for it ... almost like the individual players are doing their own thing & it adds up to an arrangement only by accident (though, of course, it *is* meticulously arranged). The ka-chunk bass & drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical. Also, what I think of as the "stairwell" approach to music engineering ... there's always this weird echo going on that makes it sound like the recording took place in a fire tower in some high-rise. And, it's easy to not notice unless you're trying to find them, there's often a chorus of voices filling out the arrangement somewhere ... but you can't *really* be sure those are human voices ... In the end, though, even an oddball like me can only find this stuff compelling for short bursts. And then I wake up 'cause the record needs to be flipped. This sorta reveals one of the problems I have sometime with the whole exotica thing ... I wonder if anyone else battles this, too. Sometimes I find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something. (Like, "Well, it has an organ & a piano & some vibes & plucky guitar. Playing "Night and Day." Therefore it's groovy. Howcomes it really sux?") With this record hunting obsession, so much of what we lug home ends up being disappointing, that it can be easy to lose sight of the sounds we're looking for. Until, that is, you put the needle onto the first track of a great new find, and MAN-OH-MAN HOOO-BOY YES!!, you're reminded of what you makes you loony for these sounds in the first place. I guess I need to remind myself to just play the damn records & tap my damn foot & don't try to think so much. Know-what-i'm-saying? Anyone? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 98 12:56:49 Pacific Daylight Time From: darren hutton Subject: (exotica) sorry...... Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the team Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well. Darren! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:54:42 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary? >The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out >of print reguarly. They also pull the "We're only making x number of these and then they are gone!" hype. They did this with Fantasia and the deadline came and went and it was STILL readily available long afterwards. I don't mind that it was, however, tell the truth (wahwahwahwah Ooooo) Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:12:32 -0400 From: Chris Cook Subject: (exotica) sorry ... >Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the >team >Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well. Oops! Mebbe I'm wrong about the others, too ... guess I'd been lulled once too often by the Bert version of "Wonderland" & assumed it was his. :) (Boy, I've thought that one to be true for so long ....) Never a fact-checker shall I be, - --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:23:34 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer "keir keightley" wrote: >_Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series). This >contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some >tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_. >This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time >I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of >this is on the Verve box set). Combines the original LP's "The wonderful world of Antonio Carlos Jobim" (1965, arranged by Nelson Riddle) and "A certain Mr. Jobim" (1967, arranged by Claus Ogerman), plus 2 tracks from "Love, strings and Jobim" (1966), plus 4 previously unreleased tracks, recorded during the "A certain Mr. Jobim" session. The legendary Brazilian composer performs his own songs, singing on 19 of the 28 tracks (the others being instrumental). Despite Jobim's pleasingly vulnerable voice, I think these are not really the best versions around of his songs, as Riddle's and Ogerman's honey strings smooth out that typical "tristesse" quality of the bossa nova, and the English lyrics don't have that exotic touch of the Portuguese. This is velvet bossa nova targeted to Sinatra fans. Tracks: "She's A Carioca", "Agua De Beber", "Surfboard", "Useless Landscape", "So' Tinha De Ser Com Voce", "A Felicidade", "Bonita", "Favela", "Valsa De Porto Das Caixas", "Samba Do Aviao", "Por Toda A Mimha Vida", "Dindi", "Hurry Up And Love Me", "Pardon My English", "Bonita", "Se Todos Fossem Iguais A Voce", "Off-Key", "Photograph", "Surfboard", "Outra Vez", "I Was Just One More For You", "Estrada Do Sol", "Don't Ever Go Away", "Zingaro", "Esperanca Perdida", "Fotographia", "Por Causa De Voce", "Desafinado". Johan quiet@village.uunet.be | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ | ) / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:57:43 -1000 From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk) Subject: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach This might be of interest to some... Last night I picked up the CD "Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach". It's on the DCC label and has just been issued on CD for the first time. A little sticker on the cover says "COOL JAZZ". Well, not really. More like semi-sedated lounge-pop. Instrumental, of course, the group is Cal on vibes with much organ, electric bass, guitar, backbeat drummer, and occasional appearances by strings, reeds, and brass. Recorded in 1968. There's a semi-"funky" version of "Say a Little Prayer", as well as a somehow mysterious rendition of "Message to Michael". Other tunes include "My Little Red Book", "What The World Needs Now" and "Walk On By".... all the hits, 9 in all. Most are taken at EZ tempos. I would hesitate to call any of it "swingin'" and hardly even "jazz". The drummer, in particular, does little else but unobtrusively beat time. This is pretty "cheezy", possibly thrown together very quickly, most songs fade out, and playing time is short (about 30 minutes, but cheap at around $10). But I love it, and it started growing on me almost immediately. I played it again right after the first listen, which is about as good a compliment as I can give. Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate. His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone else's, which is sort of the appeal. Mr. Funk gives it a surprising score of 8 out of 10. *** *** *** Steve Funk (sfunk@pop.adn.com) Anchorage, AK USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:01:31 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) Question List - Please re-post Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out can do so? The list without someone completing it already would be more helpful. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:06:52 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply <<>> Geez - I LOVE this list !!!!!!! ;-) - - Nate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:07:02 +0200 From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Gravelands Anyone's heard this yet? Arjan GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES (BRILLIANT CD OF AN ELVIS IMITATOR COVERING CLASSIC SONGS BY DEAD > > 1.Come As You Are > 2.Love Will Tear Use Apart > 3.Working Class Hero > 4.Whiskey In The Jar > 5.Blockbuster > 6.I Heard It Through The Grapevine > 7.No Woman No Cry > 8.All Or Nothing > 9.20th Century Boy > 10.Piece Of My Heart > 11.Dock Of The Bay > 12.Voodoo Chile > 13.Riders On The Storm / The End Apparently there will be German release out with some extra tracks like "Song of the Siren" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:13:17 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . In a message dated 98-08-05 05:07:20 EDT, M.O. writes: << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian delegate: approved! >> Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica Confederacy delegate: approved! IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered exotica music by many. Robert "E." Brooks P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:16:42 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach > Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's > not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate. > His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone > else's, which is sort of the appeal. Two current Tjader re-issue CDs that I think are mighty fine (both on Verve)... "Several Shades of Jade/Breeze From The East" - A two-on-one with Tjader working with large ensembles. "Shades" was done in collaboration with none other than Lalo Schifrin. "Breeze" in collaboration with Stan Applebaum. Both date from 1963. For me, "Shades" is a much stronger piece of work, with "Breeze" coming off a bit tinny in comparison, but opinions can vary (and I think they have here), so don't mind mine. According to the notes, Tjader was none too pleased with "Breeze" himself. "Soul Sauce" - Dates from 1964 and finds Tjader back in a small combo, probably in reaction to "Breeze". This is more hard-core Latin-jazz. Players include Lonnie Hewitt, Willie Bobo, Donald Byrd, Jimmy Heath, Alberto Valdes, Armando Peraza, Grady Tate. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:33:12 -0700 From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Say, RC.... Did you have a cousin by the name of Preston? Pray tell us about him. : > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:44:53 -0400 From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Another Cool Book I had only looked at this briefly when I put it into the FAQ, but after finally spending some time with this book, this is the shit! Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History George S. Kanahele, ed. (1979, University Press of Hawaii) ISBN 0-8248-0578-X It's organized Encyclopedia-style, so it takes a bit of jumping around to get the big picture--but I have been searching for a book like this for YEARS. (Does anyone know if there's been anything published a bit more recently?) I've loved "Hawaiian" albums, both genuine and cheezoid, for a long time. This book is just packed with the kind of background I always wanted, to help sort out which is which--plus it has entries on all the better-known "Hawaiian" hit songs, about key instruments like the 'ukulele and steel guitar, and so on. One reason Hawaiian music is fascinating to me is that the whole question of "authenticity" is so totally muddled there--and according to this book it's even stranger than I ever knew. "Traditional" Hawaiian music turns out to be a total mongrel of Polynesian chant, Christian hymns, instruments brought to the islands by foreign cowboys and sailors. . . Meanwhile, Hawaii has been enthusiatically exporting its music and instuments for a hundred years, with the result that credible "hawaiian" msuic has been created in all corners of the globe--some of which returned home to become part of the standard repertoire. It's wacky. Basically, Hawaiian musicians have not been shy about adopting whatever innovations from other musics they liked the sound of, yet somehow still retaining a Hawaiian identity. Lets hear it for Hybrid Vigor! Aloha, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:01:08 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . . Has Elvis ever posted to this list? - ---Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: > > > << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian > delegate: approved! >> > > Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica > Confederacy delegate: approved! > > IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input > or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in > the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered > exotica music by many. Robert "E." Brooks > P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:09:05 -0700 From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD Attention: New CD Reissue just added: Original Soundtrack: Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping Originally released in 1968 on Project 3 Total Sound Stereo Sharp jagged brassy musical figures within an AMAZING ORCHESTRA with Unbe-lieve-a-ble arrangements, serious spookiness with OMINOUS AMOUNTS of wild and weird Percussion with Reverb and Echo all throughout the entire score. EXTREMELY JUNGLE JAZZ-ESQUE. Tribal Voodoo Pounding!!! Extremely Dramatic and Incredible, all KILLER...from beginning to end, I shit you not A masterpiece soundtrack by the man that also brought us In Like Flint, Our Man Flint, Man from UNCLE, Sebastian, music for the TV version of The Twilight Zone et al... It is EXTREMELY EXOTIC for All Hours and Moods of the Day or Night. Really tremendous soundtrack with 1 title Previously unreleased* Titles; Main Title. The Revelation, The Clothes Snatchers, *The Hunt, New Identity, The Forbidden Zone, The Search, The Cave, A Bid For Freedom, A New Mate, No Escape. Haven't seen the vinyl FOR YEARS...This is the motherload for only 8 bucks. Christmas is closer than you think and I have a few copies soooooooooooo;) $8 plus shipping Thank you all once again Jack "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD! Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA) *Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US: NAIL Distribution 1-888-Nail-Inc (Toll Free) http://www.bubblator@naildistribution.com/ OR Wholesale/Retail Sales: Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284 European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds Stefan@subliminal.se Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66 web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/ e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 15:57:07 -0400 From: "Nathan Miner" Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply >>> 08/04/98 12:10pm >>> In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote: << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! =20 End of discussion. >> and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can = if one came across his desk???>>> I already passed this album up for .50 so there!! And, there's a Nat on this list, so let's get the flaming to the right = person - I'm Nate. - - Nate (not Nat) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #179 *****************************