From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #183 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, August 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 183 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) (exotica) Collection Database Re: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Re: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious? Re: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores Re: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? (exotica) Ed Lincoln (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you) Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day (exotica) Re: Gainsbourg Re: (exotica) Collection Database Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes (exotica) The waiter from Ipanema (exotica) Re: Cleaning Again Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse (exotica) Re: Whither Vik? (exotica) Re: Question List (exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz Re: (exotica) Formation 60 Re: (exotica) Collection Database Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day (exotica) Exotica Question List (exotica) Collection Database Re: (exotica) Collection Database (exotica) Question List Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:16:06 -0700 From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) >> 6. What are you just dying to tell us? We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. Suggestions? Juan Garcia Davidson I was seriously pushing for Miles Davis Grandia when naming my boy (now three. handsome, smart. thankyouverymuch) Hmmm... Baxter Denny Davidson.....uhhhh... Serge Davidson.... I'll get back to ya. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:31:54 -0700 From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: (exotica) Collection Database So who's got a collectors database going? I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the vinyl organized and entered into a database. I really need to get some lists of albums compiled for several projects I am working on. I also have promised information to people about some of my records, and it occurs to me that this would be the perfect time to get the database going... I'd just start entering the things I need to compile...I can add the rest later. This will save me from having to rekey a lot of stuff. So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share their database template, well you just go right ahead. I am particularly interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes (possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields. This should be interesting... Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. They are just clumped in the basement (my rumpus room) in "groups." Some on shelves. Some on chairs. Tons on the floor. MAN, am I going to be busy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:44:41 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats Piero Piccioni----the very name---I love to say it into a micorphone---think of it---Piero Piccioni...say it five times fastttt...MMMMMMMMM...rambling after the disco/Jimmy Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:48:42 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious? how can I get a gig a McGill?.......I wanna physically plan....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:56:49 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores record storage--now THERE's a thread---anyone for sewing? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 05:01:58 EDT From: Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik? will vik himself address his reasons for shutting down ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:18:52 +0100 From: G.R.Reader@bton.ac.uk Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln OK, seeing as how I got no response at all about this, I assume no-one else has come across it. What a great record. Sort of mambo / Bossa Nova rhythm ( I don't know, I've never had a dance lesson in my life) with a lovely meaty Hammond, trumpet and kazoo (oh, yes). There are vocals, but they're not really featured, more a chorus thats kept fairly well down in the mix. The sleeve just says 'Ed Lincoln' on the front and spine, so I would assume its the first eponymous LP from Ed, who does seem to be a real person as he co-wrote several of the songs. Its a nice cover with 3 couples (I counted) dancing. The label looks a bit blurred so I suppose it may be a bootleg, but its on LP and CD so maybe not. As I said before the man in the shop told me it was popular with Acid Jazz DJs for one of the tracks on it. Anyway, these are the details I have Ed Lincoln Produced by Nilo Sergio on the Musidisc label from Rio de Janeiro The track listing O GANSO (not the same as the Astrud Gilberto song) E O CIDE QUERIDA ALI TEM O AMOR QU TU GUARDEI BALANCO AZUL MEU QUERIDO AMOR YA-YA CARAMBA COCHISE EU NAO VOU MAIS SE TIVER DE SER definitely one for the cheese lovers. Have fun Il Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 02:40:01 PDT From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Re: Suspicious motives.... (& a landfill near you) >Excuse me, are you saying that your primary motivation for collecting "lounge" >music is that you are recycling junk culture? I would think the primary >motive is you like the music and THEN maybe you think you've done a good deed >by reclaiming/recylcing the old vinyl. > >I welcome response from others on this question. > >- Michele > NO! i don't mean its some kind of environmental concern, that concept that i might be saving plastic from a landfill has never occurred to me, i mean it will go there when i die anyway. No, my point is that i got into this music as a reaction to the regimented consumerism of popular culture. This is me deciding what i consider to be good and enjoyable, for whatever mixed and not at all laudable motives, rather than a media or peer group conception of cool, This opens up decades of popular music which has been neglected and discarded. For example people often distinguuish 'proper' jazz from some of what we like. I love bop etc. but to accept that as the sole history of jazz/ popular music is to have an 'official' history, like the individualist consumer version of maoism. Which my friends and i used to call the 'happy shopper' society (after a brand of tacky products). i always liked to think what we were doing was as close to putting the music first as was possible. hope my motives pass muster.... rob P.S. What's the Larry Page Orchestra like? A friend saw a CD called up , up and away and asked me was it any good. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:21:32 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg >This made me wonder, has anyone heard or does anyone own the album of >jazz interpretations of Serge Gainsbourg's songs which is mentioned in >the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd? I don't remember who the artist was, but >it was a reasonably recent (1994 or something) release from France. >Anyone? > >------------------- >What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? It's very jazzy. I know that sounds naff,but that is all I can say about it. I much prefer "Comic Strip" from that trio. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:05:57 -0400 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" Subject: RE: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes MO, Are they painted, or is it bad lighting? I also noticed that there is a shadow on her left (your right) lower eyelid from her top lashes, so maybe you are seeing shadows, yes? BTW, I did notice the hair pin, kind of blows the mystery of the look a little. surfing the chaos, Charlieman > I just started to paint the Denny's "Exotica" Cover (LRP 3034 Mono > version, of course) in oil and what do I see on a closer look? Sandy > Warner is wearing painted eyelashes! Painted on the skin above her eyes. > I guess the girls in the list had seen this right away. I never saw a > girl do that in real life. Exotic! It also looks as if this > vaginal-symbolic piece of silver on her forehead is fixed to her hair > with an ordinary safety pin. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:14:41 EDT From: Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List (Dave and LeAnn) In a message dated 98-08-07 06:19:41 EDT, you write: << 6. What are you just dying to tell us? We're expecting a baby boy in December. Haven't decided on a name yet. Suggestions? >> too bad it ain't a girl -- i have always been fond of Yma. Or for the banal: Amy but you could nick name here Yma. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:20:23 EDT From: Subject: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day OK, the weekend is upon us. I hope everybody has a good one. Ready to smile??? Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and listening to your music at the same time? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 09:14:45 -0400 From: jmperl@juno.com (Jonathan M Perl) Subject: (exotica) Re: Gainsbourg >What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? I adore it - very jazzy, but still accessible, and his singing is really great. Up there with 'mondo morricone' and rhino's 'soundtracks with a twist' as one of my favorite CD releases. >Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there on the list? I would love to be, but have never seen ONE of his records at a price I could afford. regards Jonny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:49:26 -0400 From: cook@pobox.upenn.edu Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database >So who's got a collectors database going? Boy, am I EVER SO interested in this thread. I've got a really irritating completist-archivist streak & have been giving the notion of a database an awful lot of thought lately. The idea of data input for what I've already got is a bit daunting. Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels. I do an awful lot of taping & goofy label making. Here's an embarassing admission: I'm one of those people who makes a good cassette recording for nearly every LP that might merit repeated listening. And then the vinyl gets stored away til I need it for a compilation or for a replacement tape. Or cover appreciation. Oy. That means lotsa LPs and the added burden of lotsa tapes. I've pretty much always done that ... even back in the day when it meant tapes of Ultravox, Waitresses & Aztec Camera to play while I drove around suburban Miami in my white Camero with my hair meticulously feathered back. But, that was last year (har har har ...). >Hey, by the way: My records are currently in NO PARTICULAR ORDER. I've got mine stashes in about a dozen or so milk crates under some stairs & pretty much arranged ABC (did I mention I'm pretty obsessive?) by a few broad categories ... but, I did the bulk of my acquiring unguided & learned as I went (there was a long time where I seriously thought I was the only weirdo into "this stuff"), so I'd probably re-categorize them now. Think it goes something like male & female vocals, latin mambo & cha cha (think i probably put my bossa stuff in there, would mebbe change that), swing & swing vocals, Burt & Friends (including A&M crap), 70s garbage, keyboard cheese, box sets, percussion, exotica, old compilations, comedy/spoken word/misc, gogo/discotheque/swingin' 60s, girlgroups, bonehead vocal choruses, K-tel-ish collections, and misc EZ bandleaders/groups/loungy stuff. And, a really, really big, towering "tobefiled" pile. Really big. I have plans to somehow, someday do the shelving bit (all shelving now goes for books & I've got a similiar capacity problem there), but will probably wait until my present lease runs out & try to get a place with an extra "music" room. Yes, that's right, I think record-collecting has begun to dictate my housing decisions!! Plus, I just bought a set of old vibes that are still in my office & I must get them home cause people keep walking by & playing them with pens & keys (ouch!), but I have no place to put them .... I ran across an ad for shelving units fit for the serious LP collector. They were the right size & were sturdy & not a bad price at all. So, I put it aside for later & I can't find it now and don't remember where I saw it ... I'd love to hear how other folks handle these issues ... - --chris cook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:55:00 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Sandy's eyelashes No, you can see the real eyeleashes, they are almost in front of the eyeballs. the painted lashes above the eyes could possibly be painted on the photo and not on her skin, but I doubt it. I don't think, becoming aware of the little tricks that artist use, doesn't spoil the mystery. Instead for me the mystery increases when I see things that I haven't seen before, like discovering a little hidden secret. MO* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:58:01 -0400 From: cook@pobox.upenn.edu Subject: (exotica) The waiter from Ipanema Hey, by the way ... I was in New York last weekend & ended up in Little Brazil looking for dinner and chose (of course!) to eat in a place called Ipanema. Good food; curiously, though, no music. I had to laugh because after I ordered my meal (including the fried chicken dish frango bossa nova ... the only real cutesy thing on the menu), the waiter asked if I was from Brazil 'cause my accent was so good. Bah-hahaha. I, in no way, know any Portugese whatsoever ... I was too embarassed to admit that it was just from listening to too much Jobim/Gilberto, etc. (!!!) Incidentally, the meal was really great ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:25:14 -0400 From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Re: Cleaning Again << 2 parts distilled water 1 part denatured alcohol I've used scraps of old white t-shirts for rags. I don't know about long-term effects on the vinyl, but it sure does cut through crusty mold. >> See, my guess is that if you use alcohol on the LP before every play, sure, you're in trouble. But if you use it *once* to get rid of all the grime, then treat it nice from then on out, I bet you'd be okay. I mean, come on, that big speil suggests cleaning and vacuuming your LPs before every play. Jeez. Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:23:33 -0400 From: Peter Risser Subject: Re: (exotica) one of the signs of the Apocalypse << But since you seem intent on finding out my real identity, okay... I'm John Tesh. Nat >> Wouldn't it be funny if he really was? Peter === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:18:25 -0400 From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Re: Whither Vik? << Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik? They are missing the point when they think www broadcasts hurt record sales. Its obivious that you buy more music because of what you are exposed to. I want to thank Vic for having such cool taste to put that great music on his site. Vic's lounge has turned me on to such a variety of new music that I couldn't wait to go out and buy it. I doubt this law will help the record industry. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck >> Duh. Don Tiki, L'Atome, Action +, and TV Dinners all have Vik to thank for introducing me to their music. And Ben Folds Five, Beck, Fiona Apple, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Jamiroquai and a few other big name bands all can thank the propagation of MP3s. Of course, there were an equal number that I've NOT bought the album for, but hey, I never would have bought the others either, without hearing off-album tracks. But these guys don't care about us discriminating music buyers. We are not the world. The rest of the US buys $18 CDs for two cuts and thinks they're happy. Tons of people I know have discs that they "like one or two songs" and just sit through the rest. Or even not, just skipping to the songs they like and then going on to the next disc. How annoying! Anyway, we can only pray that this spreads to the new generation who are accustomed to only getting the music they want. Imagine every title being digitally available! No such thing as out of print! === Peter Risser risser@goodnews.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:47:50 -0400 From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) Re: Question List Well, the pump slurped up all the water--now we are dealing with That Smell. And hey, now *I* want to have a little fun for a minute here too. . . > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... Well, Margaret did give me a cowbell during the darkest days of my Enoch Light Cha Cha phase. . . But honestly, no. Too scarred by childhood viola lessons, I'm afraid. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? _United States Navy Steel Drum Band Plays "Blowin' In The Wind"_ (found in about 1983). Still one of the odder LPs in my collection. Not exactly exotica, but this this completely accidental flea-market purchase first alerted me there might be some other interesting things lurking in those piles of musty old records. . . > 3. This list could help you more by... I love reading people's descriptions of wild music still out there, that I don't know about yet. Or even if I do own it myself, it's interesting to hear someone else's take on an artist. (Slightly hypocritical here-- haven't posted a "finds" list of my own for months.) > 4. Other exotica/things you collect Cameras older than me. Vintage appliances. Abberant clip art. Cocktail glassware. Should I include all the obsolete Macintoshes? > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like Pere Ubu, Twist, Hawaiian slack key, Bad Brains, any record where the musical style is performed by the "wrong" ethnic group. . . Which reminds me, does anyone out there know the name of the artist somtimes referred to as "the Chinese Patsy Cline"? I just have 2 songs on a foreign comp (no english notes), but she's awesome. . . > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Mmmm, well there's a funny story under #8. . . > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! Well, I was a bit irked when my good CD player died after five years, while meanwhile vinyl happily marches on. But I often end up being the defender of digital--I think there are a lot of misconceptions about it. (I may have posted once about my discovery that you can drill a 3/32" hole through a CD and it will probably play without audible glitches) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Now this is the funny part. I first heard about the exotica mailing list though Joseph Holmes' old SABPM website. Just to see what the list was all about, I surfed over to download some of the old archives. I noticed that one particular month was a HUGE number of kilobytes compared to all the others, so naturally I was curious and looked at that one. Well it was huge because that was the very month Lounge Laura had inaugurated this questionaire. When I got to the FEZ question, I gasped--for at that very moment, my beloved maroon Shriner fez was SITTING RIGHT ON THE MONITOR! I began to cackle, "At last! I have found my people!!" (I also own a very gangsterish copper-colored suit, which always arouses much comment.) > 9. Shaken or stirred? Or straight from the brown paper bag. > 10. I clean my LPs with ... Ah well, now that would be telling, wouldn't it? > 11. My home page URL is: Not actually a homepage, but you can discover the awful truth about my closet geekiness at: http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb/roscope/index.html > 12. I have a Licence To ... Well, my business card does say I'm a Witch Doctor--but actually I practice without a license. Cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:55:21 -0400 From: Ross Orr Subject: (exotica) the Net vs. the Record Biz Conspiracy theorists take note: I've heard it suggested that the proposed 96kHz/24 bit standard for DVD audio is RIDICULOUS overkill technically (20-bit/48 kHz being essentially flawless if implemented properly). But 96/24 would make the "audiophile" music format such a byte hog that only big corporations could afford the equipment to work with it. Of course the joke will be on them, when by 2003 a Palm Pilot will be perfectly capable of doing it. . . Yours in Uber-Hi-Fi, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 03:48:01 -0600 From: Jill Mingo Subject: Re: (exotica) Formation 60 >> >> * Various Artists: "Formation 60" >> >> CD/LP, JazzanovaCompostRec JCR003, Germany, 1998 >> >Does Johan or our german friends or anyone in the list know more >> >about this? >> >I appreciate your help. >Basically, I'd like to know if it's music recorded in 50's or 60's or >it's contemporary. I guess the second. Is that right? And who's >playing in it? It's from 1957-69 and features MANFRED-LUDWIG SEXTETT,TOBY FISCHELSCHER & GUENTER WILK, MICHAEL FRITZEN QUARTETT, ORCHESTER KLAUS LENZ, VOLKMAR SCHMIDT COMBO, THEO SCHUMANN COMBO,WERNER PFUELLER QUINTETT, and MODERN JAZZ BIG BAND 65..Hope this helps.. Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:27:02 -0700 From: Gary Mattingly Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database Hello, I use Keep It Compact database, it is at: http://www.keepitcompact.com/main.htm Some other Database tools can be found at: http://www.cddb.com:80/downloads/index.html Keep It Compact has a lot of fields and you can add a few of your own to be searchable. I don't know about searching the notes/comments though. The other database tools might have such a capability but I haven't checked them out for that particular option. My database is still pretty small and I started with the blues sections as opposed to the lounge section. Gary Mattingly At 01:31 AM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote: > >So who's got a collectors database going? > >I have been sooo busy lately, but dammit, I have got to start getting the >vinyl organized and entered into a database. > >So let's make with the recommendations. Also, if anyone wishes to share >their database template, well you just go right ahead. I am particularly >interested in a system that would let me search large fields of notes >(possibly for sections of liners) sice I often need to search for things not easily >found in straight title,artist,label, etc.. fields. - -- Gary S. Mattingly - -- gmatting@dnai.com - -- http://www.dnai.com/~gmatting # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 08:54:08 PDT From: "Ben Waugh" Subject: Re: (exotica) Funny Thought for the Day That's a new one on me, but I do recall using my gatefold lps, in my teen years, mind you, and winnowing stems and seeds from useful product. A very uncommon practice, I am sure. This was back when it was thought audio-cassettes were going replace vinyl and every Soundesign console came with an 8-track. >> >Who out there remembers putting a 45 on each ear and both wearing and >> >listening to your music at the same time? >> > >> >Robert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Exotica Question List I can't believe that I'm doing this. This exotica list is very strange in a very wonderful way. 1. Are you a musician? No 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? In the 70's my Aunt Lou gave me Quiet Villiage by Martin Denny. My favorite memory of this album is when we went to Tikal, Guatemala around 1978. We took the speakers outside the van & played it really loud in the jungles of Tikal. We can't imagine what the tourists thought. I also recieved from my aunt Lou the great Maria Bonita album by Prez Prado and a collection of big band with the great Xavier Cugat doing his best song, Blen Blen Blen, with the marvelous Miguelito Valdez on vocals. Imagine seeing that version of the Cugie band live at the Waldorf Astoria around 1940. We still play Quiet Village every year when our Carnival Club toasts the mayor of New Orleans, this song plays in the background (before Chaquita Banana) 3. This list could help you more by... Convincing Vic or someone else> to keep Vic's Lounge alive. Viva Vic's Lounge! 4. Other exotica/things you collect- tropical Tiki clothes, statues, & other decorative things to wear on Mardis Gras day. I also collect exotica ornaments for my Christmas tree. 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like. I'm serious, here goes: I am now buying Indie Pop the most after exotica. However I still like Soca from Trinadad, Zouc, Oldies pop, Soucous, Compass, merengue, late 60's, early cuban music, Texas swing(Bob Wills is the King), late 60's early 70's country rock, disco, jazz, fusion(especialy Weather Report), classical(prefer vocals), early new age, early rap, early 80's & bluegrass. I know I left something out, oh yeah, Cowboy music & occasional alternative bands. 6. What are you just dying to tell us? I think all genres of music have some exotica in them. In other words exotica is in the ear of the beholder. 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? Tell us more! I think that 78's have potentially the best sound quality, followed by 12 inch 45s &33, 45 singles, lps, 8 tracs, cassetts and finally cds. The big advances in sound have been convience. Cds are the easiesl to play and they don't skip, but they have a shorter life span then vinyl. 8. Own a fez? NO. other lounge-wear of which you are proud? Grass skirts on my head, shoulders and waist on Mardis Gras Day. 9. Shaken or stirred? Shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake my.........Shake my........... 10. I clean my LPs with ...distilled water and an old disc washer brush. 11. My home page URL is: The exotica list is my home. 12. I have a Licence To ...get another Visa card to buy more albums. Easy Listening in the Big Easy, Chuck _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:08:11 -0500 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Collection Database At 09:49 AM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>So who's got a collectors database going? >Here's another thought: I'd love a db system that would allow me to easily >cut&paste intact track listings onto cassette labels. I do an awful lot of >taping & goofy label making. The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One (or more) of them may work for y'all. - -Lou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:19:37 -0700 From: jasmine j jopling Subject: Re: (exotica) Collection Database > >The Old-Time Radio site has a page of many Share- and Freeware cataloging >and lable-printing programs, all downloadable directly from the site. One >(or more) of them may work for y'all. I've found great resources for music collections on download.com. Generally, there's not much freeware, but lots of shareware and limited-time full programs. More options for pc's (as usual), but the Mac ones look really nice. - -jasmine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:28:38 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: (exotica) Question List > 1. Are you a musician? Explain... I have played piano, cello, bass, acoustic and electric, guitar and harmonica, in almost every case with enthusiasm outstripping technique. > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this? A set of 78's of Yma Sumac owned by my Aunt and Uncle, Love for Sale or Thermopylae by Stan Kenton owned by my parents. > 3. This list could help you more by... Post those reviews! It's a great way to learn (although, some of you like some people more than I do!). > 4. Other exotica/things you collect My wife likes souvenir shot glasses, between the two of us we have about 700 videotapes, including Ferrante and Teicher playing on an Ernie Kovacs show (I just don't where that footage is!). > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like I listen to anything once. That's my motto. I am in a 60's Garage/R&B band now, and I collect Film Music, Jazz, Blues and still like my old ELP and Yes albums. Scary secret is my Rick Springfield "Bop 'Til You Drop" single, which I cannot blame on inebriation or impressing a date, because I happen to like parts of the song (it was a buck!). Even though I am predisposed culturally to dislike the many varieties of U.S. Southern accents (those were the ones I heard in the archival footage most and they were usually spouting racist bile), not only have I moved to the South, I have long enjoyed Western Swing and I bought a Hal Ketchum single. Music of almost any other country fascinates me and Classical Music, particularly turn-of-the-century Russians (Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Prokoviev) is a lot of fun. I am, however, still pretty firm in my dislike of what hits the Top 40, if for no other reason it tends to homogenize or exclude a wonderful world of music to potentially wanting ears. The great thing about music is, no one said I had to pick. > 6. What are you just dying to tell us? Soylent Green is PEEOPLLLE...*Plop* > 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality > consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs? > Tell us more! I am going to annoy somebody by saying I have no true preference. I have great sentiment and enjoyment of vinyl (have you seen my site?) I kvelled when they reissued Blue Note albums with extra tracks and they are smaller and when you move, boy is that a factor. I just wish that one had not supplanted the other. As for sound, if you bring up a good sounding CD I can find a great sounding LP. For those who forget the past, I can tell you about perfectly horrible sounding LPs from major labels. For those who think that CD's all sound better, there are lousy ones, too. There are some things that are being issued or reissued on CD that are not being issued on LP (which is a pity, however I can do little about it) and when done right, can be great fun. I have a CD here of the Pretty Things which contains the album "Get the Picture?" and also 13 minutes of archival footage! Can't do that on an LP! Imagine an Yma Sumac CD, with her appearance in "Secret of the Incas" or an interview. On the other hand, I can tell you the extent of damage that a 45 suffered when I tried to put it in my CD drive (it was NOT Rick Springfield. Leave me be about that!) > 8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or > other lounge-wear of which you are proud? No, I don't. I feel that I don't look horribly good in clothes, fortunately there is a woman I know that sharply disagrees! So I married her. It was time to Fez the music and dance. >8a. Sorry? Yes. > 9. Shaken or stirred? I am both! Was you ever bitten by a dead bee? (There is a right answer to this, too!) > 10. I clean my LPs with ... A Discwasher brush and a dollop of love. > 11. My home page URL is: http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar or http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/main.html if you wish to skip the first part. > 12. I have a Licence To ... Thrill, baby! Actually, Be a Christian Be a Motor Vehicle Operator Broadcast in the US. Spell it "License" but pronounce it "Licence". Brian "Your nickname here! Phone 555-1325" Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:10:58 PDT From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (exotica) Serge Gainsbourg >>What do people think of the 'du jazz dans le ravin' cd anyway? >> >It is my favorite of the three collections. But you know Gainsbourg is such a genius... Are there any big Gainsbourg collectors out there >on the list? i think it's a marvellous cd, lots of hilarious franglais (that would make M. Jack froth at the gills) and faux american pastiches including that (fake) albinoni adaggio done as a jazz tune on the vibes. Unfortunately i'm not a big Gainsbourg collector, there just isn't a lot to be found in ireland. Which brings me to a story. The other week i was passing one of my favourite record shops and heard some serge coming from the speakers. the guy working was not the usual so i hoped i might pick up some serge vinyl for cheap. i shuffle in and flip through the records (got the fistfull of dollars / for a few dollars more soundtrack) and go up to the counter, as i'm paying i go 'hey that's serge gainsbourg isn't it?' he tells me he put the tape on as it attracted people in off the street, including the guitarist from sonic youth just the day before.... Basically old serge records are hard to find round here. yours covetously rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #183 *****************************