From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #254 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, November 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 254 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #253 (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic (exotica) 1950s beefcake models dig exotica! Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd (exotica) post-turkey US TV (exotica) Talkin' Tiki (exotica) Air on TV (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour" Re: (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour" Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd Re: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic (exotica) Making records into CDs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs (exotica) Bacharach and Mancini on TV (exotica) SLarry??? You there??? (exotica) Making records into CDs (exotica) FS: Dick Hyman Moog LPs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs (exotica) This week on The Retro Cocktail Hr Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs (exotica) Sitar Funk CD (exotica) Free Design Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs (exotica) burning CD's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:13:32 -0600 From: Robert Sloane Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd At 09:26 PM 11/26/98 -0500, Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote: >Yeah, his whole exchange seemed to pertain to something a long time ago. Com >Ed has not hit the Dresden in a long time right? > >Also, doesn't the author also write of Lounge LA magazine? Now this is not >the Lounge zine but the Lounge LA one. The "title bar" (or whatever it's called) on my web browser implies that the article is from Sept. 1997, but it is attached to the September 1998 electronic version of the Lounge LA zine. The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986, and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop? Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:08:27 EST From: ChuckTFrog@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #253 In a message dated 11/28/98 3:39:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-exotica- digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > > Someone (Lou?) asked about Henry's daughter Monica and her new CD. I see > that there's a PBS special in circulation next week cross-promoting the CD, > so keep an eye peeled and you can evaluate it for free. She's a singer and > it seems to be a set of covers of Dad's hits. > Just worked with her last nite here in Jacksonville. Very nice show, great arrangements (Patrick Williams, e.g.). Drummer is her husband, great player. Nice couple. They're travelling around the country appearing on PBS stations in connection with her TV special on PBS. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:23:50 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic I don't think I've read any reviews of it here yet, so anyone seen this book? The full title is "Cocktail-o-matic. The little black book of Cocktail" and it's by one Suzanne Matczuk. It's obviously partly about drinking but the ad in the paper says "A compendium of all things cocktail, lounge and retro. From the golden era before Prohibition to today's nouveau-lounge and swing revival...." Anybody? Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:26:14 -0700 From: Matt Hinrichs Subject: (exotica) 1950s beefcake models dig exotica! Hey! Everyone on this list should point their browsers here - http://www.amug.org/~tuzahu/physique4.html Specifically, check out the strategically placed "prop" in photo #12A - interesting! - - Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:33:56 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd In a message dated 11/28/98 8:05:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, rsloane@uiuc.edu writes: << The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986, and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop? Rob >> Lounge LA was always more about dining vs. music. They would review music but the issue I got a few years back explained and reviewed the 50's and 60's dining establishments. I also think there was a little animosity between them and the folks at Lounge (which is Sam Wick, et. al.'s publication). The people at Lounge LA got a little perturbed that Lounge came in much later and stole their thunder. I do not think it is an East Coast / West Coast rivalry because most of Lounge LA's content is about southern California by design anyway. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:30:08 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) post-turkey US TV (eastern standard times) Almost all are on AMC, so to save typing, a different format... On AMC: Stranger On The Third Floor (1940) Monday morning, 10:35am - Murder and misplaced accusations with Peter Lorre, John McGuire, Margaret Tallichet, Elisha Cook Jr. Murder, My Sweet (1944) Tuesday morning, 7:30am - Dick Powell as Raymond Chandler gets knocked out a lot. Good, tough noir. With Claire Trevor, Anne Shirley, Mike Mazurki (seen last week beating up Charlton Heston in "Dark City"). Sherlock Jr. (1924) Early Wednesday morning, 5:15am - Buster Keaton plays a film projectionist who "projects" himself into the films. The Cat and The Canary (1927) Wednesday morning, 6:00am - This is *supposed* to be the original silent version (3 or 4 more versions followed). If so, it's a pioneer of the "old dark house" thriller genre. With Laura LaPlante, Flora Finch, Creighton Hale, Gertrude Astor. Little Fugitive (1953) Wednesday morning, 9:00am - I think someone on here praised this a while back. A young boy thinks he killed his brother (he didn't -- his brother was faking) and goes on the lam to Coney Island. Sure to be some cool location footage in this one. Voyage To The Bottom Of Sea (1961) Wednesday night, 6:00pm, Midnight - Walter Pidgeon and his atomic submarine battle red tape and the Van Allen radiation belt. Forerunner of the TV series. Copacabana (1947) Thursday morning, 6:00am - Nightclub-set musical comedy starring Groucho Marx and Carmen Miranda. Not as strong as one would hope with that combination, but worthwhile regardless. Love Happy (1949) Thursday morning, 7:35am - Later, lesser Marx Brothers -- but they still kick the Ritz Brother's butts. Marilyn Monroe has a walk-on. Harpo gets his usual harp segment. A Face In The Crowd (1957) Friday morning, 7:45am - Andy Griffith gets scary as a fame-crazed media personality. Bwana Devil (1952) Friday night, 10:30pm - The first of the 50s 3-D movie fad. Almost certainly not in 3-D here (boo, hiss). Old-school Hollywood (low budget division) jungle safari shenanigans. Easy Come, Easy Go (1967) Saturday night, 8:30pm - Elvis. Don't Bother To Knock (1952) Saturday night/early Sunday morning, 10:15pm, 4:30am - Marilyn Monroe as a psycho babysitter. With Richard Widmark and Anne Bancroft. On TNT: Duel (1971) Late Friday night/early Saturday morning, 3:45am - From the salad days of made-for-TV movies, a vehicular warmup for "Jaws", by that famous director I'd rather not name. I like "Killdozer" better. On TBS: Goldfinger (1964) Saturday night, 8:05pm - Prime 007. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:18:03 -1000 From: Lloyd Kandell Subject: (exotica) Talkin' Tiki Aloha! Hope everyone had happy holidays stuffed with love. Back in da islands from NYC and the CMJ Music Marathon. We didn't have the kala ($$) to bring the band over, so i was the tiki ambassador spreading macnuts along the trail. Made great contacts there including one leading to a=20 review in this week's Time Out/NY... mahalo to list member Elisabeth Vincentelli! Working on a few new projects for the Taboo label... 1st being a deep house/trance hop dance release with Frank Orrall of Poi Dog Pondering that mixes in pac-rim rhythms from Tahiti, Fiji, Samoa... kind of deep forest in the sunshine of polynesia. He did the club remixes of "Polyamor=E9" and "Clutch Cargo Cult" to the positive response of djs and happy feet. All the best and remember... Welawela ke kai o ka moa=20 Hot is the broth of the (funky) chicken alohaderci, Fluid Floyd Don Tiki/Taboo Records # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:18:47 EST From: RLott@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Air on TV Has anyone seen the Loreal commercial with Andie MacDowell, backed by the relaxed sounds of Air's "Moon Safari" album? The music works really well on it, and if it brings them more exposure, all the better. - --Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:37:03 -0800 From: Action Plus Subject: (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour" Hi, fellow listers and listees... Joe Gore from San Francisco's Oranj Symphonette here. Please excuse the blatant self-promotion in announcing the dates of our upcoming micro-tours in support our new Rykodisc release, *The Oranj Album*. (If you don't know our music or why we sorta belong here, scope out http://www.dioramas.com/oranj/) Portland, OR: Thurs., Dec. 3rd @ Berbati's Pan Vancouver, BC: Fri., Dec. 4th @ Starfish Room Seattle, WA: Sat. Dec. 5th @ Crocodile Cafe Portland, ME: Fri., Dec. 11th @ Asylum Philadelphia, PA: Sat., Dec. 12th @ Five Spot New York, NY: Sun., Dec. 13th @ Knitting Factory Boston, MA: Monday, Dec. 14th @ House of Blues L.A. and San Francisco dates coming in January. Thanks, Joe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:29:34 EST From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour" Coming nowhere near my part of the country, but then again, no one good ever does. Nevertheless, "The Oranj Album" is a fantastic and fun collection. It's even better and livelier than their first release, "Plays Mancini." I can't imagine any member of the list being disappointed with it. - --Rod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:44:56 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd In a message dated 11/28/98 8:05:07 PM EST, rsloane@uiuc.edu writes: << The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986, and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop? >> I don't know if LA started the whole lounge thing, but they are sure as hell the guilty bastards for starting the whole swing business which puts them well into the negative column. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:53:05 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic In a message dated 11/28/98 9:25:36 PM EST, bruno@yhammer.com writes: << I don't think I've read any reviews of it here yet, so anyone seen this book? The full title is "Cocktail-o-matic. The little black book of Cocktail" and it's by one Suzanne Matczuk. It's obviously partly about drinking but the ad in the paper says "A compendium of all things cocktail, lounge and retro. From the golden era before Prohibition to today's nouveau-lounge and swing revival...." Anybody? >> Any book with a stupid title like that not to mention trying to unashamaedly trying to cash in on bothe the lounge and swing revival hspould be enough warning to stear clear. If you indeed want an expert book the making and the origins of cocktails the recently published "Cocktail" by Paul Harrington and Laura Moorhead (Viking Publishers) is highly recomended. There are 275 claasic drink recipies as well in-depth discussions on the origins and making of drinks. The co-author Paul Harrington (who is the drink editor for Wired) was interviewed about the book by Time Out several months ago and responded to the question as to how to tell if the bar you just entered is a good one with the well reasoned response that If there's a Mr. Boston guide behind the bar, flee at once! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:30:49 EST From: Micheleflp@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Making records into CDs This may have been previously discussed on the list and if so, please excuse me for asking about it, but does anyone on the list know about recording albums onto CDs? This question came up because my boyfriend wants to get me a stereo for Xmas and I couldn't decide between a CD player or a cassette player. What would be ideal is to record my albums onto CDs and then I wouldn't need a cassette. He seems to think this is possible but doesn't know how it is done. He says you can do this with a computer and a mini disk.... but isn't there a way to just record onto regular sized CDs? Can anyone fill me in on what is needed to do this? Is there a CD taping machine that can be hooked up to the stereo for such purposes? Has anyone on this list ever done this and what is the final sound quality? Is it as good as CD quality? Please excuse my ignorance and I appologize if this subject is already well- worn. - - Michele # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:31:41 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Micheleflp@aol.com wrote: > This may have been previously discussed on the list and if so, please excuse > me for asking about it, but does anyone on the list know about recording > albums onto CDs? This question came up because my boyfriend wants to get me a > stereo for Xmas and I couldn't decide between a CD player or a cassette > player. What would be ideal is to record my albums onto CDs and then I > wouldn't need a cassette. He seems to think this is possible but doesn't know > how it is done. He says you can do this with a computer and a mini disk.... > but isn't there a way to just record onto regular sized CDs? Can anyone fill > me in on what is needed to do this? Is there a CD taping machine that can be > hooked up to the stereo for such purposes? Has anyone on this list ever done > this and what is the final sound quality? Is it as good as CD quality? Has anybody ever thought, that the end of the CD age has come? There are a couple of new systems that are far better than CD and might replace it soon. In the end Vinyl might even survive CD. I stick to the good old music cassette, MC. It's the second oldest medium, everybody has it, it's cheap - I buy my empty tapes on flea markets for about 3$/10 pieces - it's rerecordable and I can't complain about the sound quality. With my Onkyo R1 tape deck and Maxell XL-S tapes I can hardly discern the tape from the original record. I don't need more. I rather put my money into more records... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:01:38 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs I agree that Vinyl seems a more permanent medium that CD, especially no= w that recordable CD, MD and that new-fangled contraption which has just = been released in the US - a chip in a box onto which one downloads sound fil= es for later use - have made the CD seem very transient. As a DJ, and as a proud owner of a cool record collection (and aren't w= e all), I like making tapes for people - part showing off, part sharing t= he joys of music - but I've always found that tapes are poor quality and l= ose a lot of quality in the copying. Now though, CD has suddenly opened new= doors for me. I've never owned a CD player and I must be the only perso= n in the western world that hasn't but I've recently been tempted by a Phill= ips CD recorder. Its around =A3350 and offers excellent reproduction (CD qu= ality can't be faulted - well it can, but thats another story), blank CDs are= around =A32 and everybody I know has a CD player and prefers the medium= over everything else. Therefore, if I make a mix CD, people will listen to i= t in all its full quality glory. There is something to be said for the poorer quality of audio tape thou= gh. It is a medium which cannot be re-used without serious loss of quality = and so this prevents those who receive tapes from sampling, re-compiling or= DJing with your precious tracks. A selfish view perhaps but important nonetheless. Maybe the answer is to make your CD compilation with some = sort of ID message repeated all over it. 'Kiss FM'-style. Charlie = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 01:27:07 PST From: "Jill Mingo" Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs I found the following point rather interesting... > There is something to be said for the poorer quality of audio tape thou= gh. > It is a medium which cannot be re-used without serious loss of quality = and > so this prevents those who receive tapes from sampling, re-compiling = or > DJing with your precious tracks. When "your precious tracks" is used, you imply that you made and recorded= this music yourself. Surely anyone can go out and buy or hunt down the = tracks you have on your CD. And surely any real DJ would want to own the = whole track - not a mix of it (which would mean at the minimum the first = few and last few seconds cut off). There are so few people in the world = that DJ with this sort of music, I think as a DJ the last thing I worry = about is someone using the tracks I've used to make a tape or CD. Any rea= l DJ has their own style and whilst they might discover some tunes from = other DJs, certainly we all source our music from a variety of places - = like this list! It is the way we put our sets together that gives us our = identity - not simply from the tunes we play. I think a perfect example = are the playlists that get posted. I find them a fascinating way to get = an insight into what and where other DJs are coming from. And when I post= mine, the last thing I worry about is other people stealing my set. I think one of the BEST reasons to buy a CD burner or Minidisc is so that= music can be shared, with good quality sound so that one isn't forced = to pay outrageous collectors' prices for one track on an LP that you spen= d 2 years looking for. You can simply have the music. There will always = be a few who must have the original, but a lot of people simply want the = music. I'm sure many people on this list have shelled out for a rare reco= rd only to have it reissued a few months later. So what? Does it make you= r purchase any less meaningful? Not for me. And not for many people I kno= w. Owning a rare record doesn't make me cool. I think I'm cool enough in = my own right! A selfish view perhaps but important > nonetheless. No, just selfish I think. And this is not a personal attack because if = you really believed this, I don't think you would ever post some of the = records you've bought for fear that others would discover them and DJ wit= h your precious records. Maybe the answer is to make your CD compilation with some sort > of ID message repeated all over it. 'Kiss FM'-style. Which is just annoying and ridiculous. If I've upset anyone, sorry, but I couldn't just skip by this one... Jill "Mingo-go" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:48:09 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs Chill Jill, all I'm saying is that CD offers almost perfect reproduction and that is not always what one wants out of a recordable medium. If I made a good track at home and then sent it out to distributors to see if they would be interested, I wouldn't want to send them a CD copy because the quality is such that it could easily be remastered. At least with tape, I know that although I may have sent out thousands of demos, nobody has the master except me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:26:23 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Bacharach and Mancini on TV The local PBS station ran Bacharach's "One Amazing Night" and Monica Mancini's "On Record" tribute to her father back to back yesterday. (Heavily sprinkled with requests for financial support of course.) I spent a week and a half recently doing nothing but making various kinds of Bacharach compilation tapes. At first it was just an attempt to somehow "deal with" all the Bacharach covers - mostly instrumental - on all these easy listening records. But it became an obsession and in the process I went from someone who would admit that "Bacharach certainly wrote a lot of good songs" into a total Bacharach freak. I loved the Bacharach show even IF some of the artist and even song selection was questionable. There was this one moment during Sheryl Crow's rendition of "One Less Bell" where the "backup singers" sang a phrase and I actually got a shiver. I think it was just the thrill of hearing Burt's new/old arrangements of the tunes. The only new song in the show was Elvis Costello singing "This House is Empty Now" from their new record together. I thought Elvis sang it beautifully and I would literally feel sorry for anyone who could have heard that and not be moved. I know that's a silly thing to say but that's how I feel. Yeah Luther Vandross came out and did a lovely job on his Windows of the world/what the world needs medley and so did Dionne Warwick on her numbers. And I'm certainly not going to knock Dionne except for that psychic friend crap. But in a show that featured okay singers and great singers, Elvis stood out as the best combination of chops and emotion. By the way, (homeboy) Mike Myers' version of "What's new Pussycat?" was not as embarrassing as (homeboys) Barenaked Ladies version of "Close to you". Then again, Wynonna was a pretty bad choice too. And Chrissy Hynde was a really cool choice I thought. By contrast, the Monica Mancini tribute to her father was actually embarrassing to me. It's such an obvious cash-in as far as I was concerned. In her introduction to the show Monica said "Through his music, they'll find out WHO I AM and who my father was". Huh??? The only thing I found out about her is that she wants to have a career as a singer and that's she's willing to play on her famous last name. Maybe that's cruel. I read the post where someone said she was nice and I don't doubt it. But for me she is an okay singer with virtually zero charisma. If being Henry's daughter gave her some special insight into his music, it was lost on me. It was nice to hear some of the songs. I mean who else is going to sing "Two for the Road"? And there was a nice moment when Jack Lemmon got all choked up remembering the first time he heard "Days of Wine and Roses". All in all it was still nice to see these tributes to two of my heroes back to back like that. I just wish that they'd gotten Tony Bennett on the Bacharach show to sing "Make it easy on yourself". That might just have beaten Elvis' contribution. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:25:57 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) SLarry??? You there??? Hey Larry, Email me off list please. All others, sorry for this bother. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:37:46 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Making records into CDs Hey Michele, In a message dated 98-11-29 23:33:29 EST, you write: << Is there a CD taping machine that can be hooked up to the stereo for such purposes? Has anyone on this list ever done this and what is the final sound quality? Is it as good as CD quality? Please excuse my ignorance and I appologize if this subject is already well- worn. >> I already see lots of responses on the list. My friend Gary and I are exploring this right now and will probably be "burning" our on CD's (and copies) by the end of the year. Others on the list are already doing so. The CD's for the CD Stereo burners are more expensive than the ones for the CD-ROM burners that go with your computer. And I mean a lot more expensive and the CD stereo ones will not let you make copies of a "copy". I will read the responses too. If you are confused you probably ought to wait about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD- ROM burners) are droping like crazy. Comments are welcome -- post to the list. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:44:20 -0700 From: "Mark B. Conklin" Subject: (exotica) FS: Dick Hyman Moog LPs I came across copies of Dick Hyman's "The Age Of Electronics" (Stereo 946-S) and "The Electric Eclectics Of Dick Hyman" (Stereo 938-S) yesterday. I already own copies of both, but I know some of you have been looking for them. I'm asking $10 a piece plus shipping (no profit to me - honest), which is a pretty decent deal. I would also consider trading. Both are in Mint/VG++ condition and have nice glossy gatefold sleeves. I also found a copy of The Moog Machine - Switched On Rock (CS9921) if anyone is interested in that. I paid about $5 for it. Sorry to waste the space if you're not interested. MC - -------------------------------- - - -- - - - - Multi-Directions Music Reviews http://www.idcomm.com/personal/mconklin Acid Jazz, Ambient, Funk, IDM, Jazz, Latin, Lounge, Soul - ----------------------- ----------- - - -- - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:45:04 EST From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs << does anyone on the list know about recording albums onto CDs?>> I'm set-up for that. You need a decent soundcard and some kind of CD recording software. There are a number of types of each and you can spend a little or a lot. You connect your stereo into the LINE IN on the back of your computer (into the sound card). You are now ready to pick out an LP and record it to the computer's hard drive. You can even record directly to the CD. Sounds simple, right? Well, that depends. For example, you need to somehow split the tracks so they can be individually indexed. Otherwise, Side A will be track 1 and Side B will be track 2. Software programs have a "track splitting" feature that detects silences and separates them. You can adjust the sensitivity. However, with my software, it was hardly a perfect science. The tracks did not always split where they should. So i had to settle for a round-about method that assured me that it would be just right, because I have to have it just right. Time consuming. Remember, this all depends on your program and I'm hardly an expert. There just might be some program out there that makes it as easy as hitting RECORD and it does everything else without fail. <> I guess so...there are features that remove pops, clicks and surface noise. But watch out, you can distort the recording if you are not careful. I've done a few mixes, too. This can be time consuming as well. I have to "clean-up" each track with a WAV editor before i am satisfied with it. Clean up meaning trimming off the silence beginning and end so when the track is selected, it immediately begins. I also have to fiddle with the volume becasue I've noticed the differences between various sources are more apparent when listened to on CD. The trap I fall into with mixes is endless experimentaion. With this kind of software, you can now snip, cut, chop, splice and dice anything with EXACT precision and put everything together like a sound collage. What ends up happening is I just keep trying new things and never get anything done. But that is my compulsive disorder and my problem. How I sometimes long for the simplicity of pressing record on the tape deck and that was it! I've even "CD'ed" stuff off cassette and video (old TV commerical stuff) and have not minded the results one bit. I just finished recording "Dog's Life", by Tony Schwartz from cassette (Smithsonian/Folkways) and it sounds great. Based on my short experience, I can only recommend this to a person who has the time and patience to do this. Be prepared to trash a few discs along the way... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:47:47 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs The way to get round the restrictive expense of blank CDs is to use the PC CDs instead. I've heard that you stick the expensive audio CD into the CD recorder and allow it to make its checks, then just before recording, replace the audio CD with the PC CD (around 1 fifth of the price) and record at will. Would anybody on the list like to confirm if this works? Charles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:21:14 +0000 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) This week on The Retro Cocktail Hr On this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast, tune in for bossa nova by Warren Kime and Brass Impact, Dick Hyman and Les Baxter, plus passionate percussion from Marty Gold's "Skin Tight" and Les Baxter's classic "Skins"; jungle jazz by Chaino, Yma Sumac, Les Baxter and Shorty Rogers (from his ultra-rare soundtrack "Tarzan the Ape Man"; along with the Now Sound of the swinging '60s, Stereo Action and outer space exotica. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the World Wide Web, just go to: http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html Requires at least a 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer 5.0 or G2. As always, if you tune us in, please let us know what you think. We'd love to hear from you! Enjoy the music, and thanks for the space. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://www.ukans.edu/cwis/units/kanufm/public_html/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:36:36 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs >I will read the responses too. If you are confused you probably ought to wait >about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD- >ROM burners) are droping like crazy. Judging from some of the news items I've been reading, it *might* be a good idea to do it now. The big music conglomerates are pushing to get all sorts of anti-copy technology added to anything that moves. They've already bought a few new laws to favor them. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:30:49 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Sitar Funk CD New Re-Issue CD Just Added **Limited Quantities** ANANDJI KALYANJI: "Bombay the Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars" Lights, karma, action! A fistful of Instrumental Film themes from 1970s Indian Crime films, which melded Indian classical music with ISAAC HAYES/ Blaxploitation-style funk, swerving crazily between (curry) fried Go-Go tunes and achingly beautiful Bollywood . (as the Bombay film studios are called) "Astro Sounds" stringed passages, and even a "Mission: Impossible" rip-off Instro called "Fear of a Brown Planet." Psychedelically funky big time, no shit Also of note is that almost every tune starts out with spoken word intro dialogue, just enough, not too much AT ALL. Just a short sentence that does NOT segue immediately into the music Just in case you DON'T want it as part of the mix CD comes in a multi-panel digipak with booklet and lots of full color photos! Really a beautiful package 5 Stars (Motel, German Import) CD: $17.50 + Shipping ($2 in US, $4 Overseas) Please e-mail direct at jack@jackdiamond.com Thanks! Jack Jack Diamond Music Http://www.jackdiamond.com "Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm See and read all about it here, in Living Color! Also available at Http://www.Amazon.com Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond Sundays 10AM-1PM Http://www.KFJC.org (Internet Broadcast) Http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames KFJC-FM, 89.7 12345 El Monte Rd. Los Altos Hills, CA 94022 Since January 1993 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:15:18 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) Free Design A friend of mine has some Free Design 45's that he'd be willing to sell. I don't know what he means by "some" but I don't think he'd want much for them. If anyone is interested in this, let me know and I'll have him root through his stuff and pick them out. By the way I wonder if any of the Free Design fans here have read the review of that "Kites are Fun" CD in the latest Cool and Strange Magazine, written by one of our fellow list-ers I believe. Don't want to stir up controversy but it did make me smile to finally read a dissenting opinion. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:26:41 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs In a message dated 98-11-30 11:36:51 EST, m. ace writes: >I will read the responses too. If you are confused you probably ought to wait >about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD- >ROM burners) are droping like crazy. <> m.ace ecam@voicenet.com Yeah ACE, This was the other arguement that we were having. The recordable CD's for CD- ROM drives are free (once the rebate is added in) around here. You just know those Hollywood lawyers are working on this. The BIG question is if the computer lawyer weasels will beat out the Hollywood lawyer weasels in this battle? In the meantime I know of people who are stocking up on these low to no cost recordable CD's for their CD-ROM burners. Robert P.S. My apologies to all the weasels and lawyers out there. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:29:39 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) burning CD's I don't want to sound like a Luddite here. I expect that someday maybe I too will join the CD-burning revolution. It's not going to happen though if the only good way to record CD's is to do it through your computer. And it's not just because I have a crap computer and no CD Rom. It's also because I can't imagine having my computer and stereo in the same room. One of the things I wonder though is whether another recording-friendly digital medium is going to come along soon and eclipse the CD as a hometaping medium. Another thing that I find strange about this whole idea - but it probably IS the Luddite in me - is the idea of taking some less-than-mint LP and preserving its clicks and pops forever in digital clarity. Recording from CD to CD makes perfect sense to me but somehow going from dusty old LP to CD doesn't. And then of course there's just the fact that in some ways I'm more emotionally invested in all the cassettes I've made and received. In some ways, I think I'm more attached to the cassettes than I am to LP's. I can go back and forth between playing CD's and playing LP's and "it works" but if a new recording medium takes over... Oh well, three years ago I was one of those "film guys" who scoffed at any notion that videotape would ever take over film and now I'm finishing a "film" - I still use that word for some reason - that was shot on Hi-8. Nat, ex-Luddite # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #254 *****************************