From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #287 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, January 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 287 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Exoticanewbies! Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment (exotica) MIKIS THEODORAKIS (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution (exotica) Shag (working with) Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution (exotica) Kahiki Question Re: (exotica) Kahiki Question Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution (exotica) Stalactpipe Organ (exotica) Re: The Great Stalacpipe Organ Re: (exotica) Stalactpipe Organ (exotica) Long L&R review (exotica) 'lil show (exotica) Great Stalactite Organ (exotica) See for yourself Re: (exotica) See for yourself Re: Re: (exotica) See for yourself Re: (exotica) On the Rocks (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's (exotica) Exotica 101 (Fwd) Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution Re: (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's (exotica) Ahmad Jamal (exotica) Ernie TV and more (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)? Re: (exotica) On the Rocks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:14:10 -0500 From: Ross Orr Subject: Re: (exotica) Exoticanewbies! >I notice nobody has taken on the thankless task of listing a bunch more >names that would help define the "basic library". I guess there's always >Ross's FAQ but I have no idea where he's got that stashed. Hey, it's just sitting out here on my desktop, waiting for the phone to ring. . . What happened actually was that back when I was actively compiling it, I emailed Lazlo to see if there might be a spot for it on the official list web page (the FAQ currently there is pretty fragmentary, and it's originator has left the list). But I didn't get any "nibbles" back from him (nyuck nyuck). So if somebody else would care to host it on their website. . . Anyway the relevant FAQ entry was: >Q: If someone were just beginning to hunt for exotica records, what would >be a few good things to look out for? > >A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are >some suggestions: > > * Ur-exotica LPs from Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman, etc. > > * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today) > > * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command, > Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, UA "Wall-to-Wall Sound" > Audio Fidelity, Directional Sound, etc. > > * Albums with "Percussion" in the title (also "Ping Pong," "Drums") > > * Pop interpretations of Cha-Cha, Mambo, Bossa Nova and Samba > > * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers) > > * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano) > > * The Three Suns, especially from 1959-62 > > * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.) > > * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord, sitar, harp or bagpipes > > * Inappropriate rock cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.) > > * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians > > * "Programmatic" jazz (Raymond Scott; Spy and Crime soundtracks, etc.) > > * Albums showcasing Moog synthesizer > > * "Now Sound" albums (Brass Ring, "Living" Guitars/etc.) > > * Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass, and their imitators > > * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title > >Caveat Emptor: In each of these categories there will be many copy-cat >records from budget labels. Their quality is usually dubious (though in a >few cases they can be delightfully bizarre). > > I can send all 13K of the FAQ around again if anyone is interested. . . cheers, --Ross || Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr || Ann Arbor, Michigan USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:18:43 +0100 From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment >When paying for records from an international source, the best way (other >than a credit card) is to get foreign cash from a bank or travel agent and >send the cash registered. This is the cheapest and easiest way. If the >letter never arrives, one can claim the cash back from the Post Office as >long as it was sent registered. >International money orders seem expensive and time consuming. > >Charlie > >with a bulging draw of Dollars, Pounds, Dracma, Krona and Lira. This doesn't work for me either, on the contrary, it's worse. Why? Because a letter with money is considered a package, and will be charged accordingly: $20. Registering a letter as a letter will have the advantage that it's slightly more safe than an ordinary letter, but your claims will be worthless, should it get lost. Cheers, Ton (Guilders) *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Remain calm. And share your bananas. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Mantra for the Modern Jungle. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:56:20 +0000 From: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) Subject: (exotica) MIKIS THEODORAKIS the greek composer of many '60s soundtracks, but where does he fit into the wider picture-puzzle of electronic folklore? anyone w/ biogs, or recommendations? d e s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:56:13 +0000 From: des@anubis23.demon.co.uk (Desmond K. Hill) Subject: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution recent discussion about bootlegging has been quite revealing. * burning private cds to exchange w/ friends is, in my mind, a development of the home taping movement from the early '80s. when this eager enthusiasm becomes a means for commercial gain however, as evident from recent posts, personally i find that demoralising. many of these artists are still alive, yet their creativity is no longer recognised & they are not encouraged to continue working. when list members are more interested in making money for themselves than supporting artists, i don't see much integrity in these self-styled acts of liberation. there are other ways to reissue material: * a quick 'phone conversation w/ a publishinbg registry or royalties agency like sacem in france, or prs in the u.k., may identify current owners of an artist's copyright. a further 'phone conversation to a record company might make them realise there are opportunities for reissuing back-catalogue material. play it diplomatically, play it skillfully, you might just find yourself being asked to co-ordinate the project yourself. three years ago a friend of mine presided over the 'gravure universalle' project, reissuing material by jack arel. today there are a multitude of record companies, internationally re-releasing the music of jack arel, piero umiliani, gert wilden & others, including jean jacques perrey. it can be done. * undeniably, one of the driving forces of contemporary technology is commerce. people have always made a living by trading in whatever ways they can, including pirating, forging, counter_feiting & bootlegging. my hope is that we will one day begin to perceive the motivations of our actions, & live responsibly w/ the consequences that ensue. * as the obsessive collectors we so obviously are, can we not utilise our knowledge creatively, become sound consultants, & support the artists whose music we love. as for bootlegging, i .__never._ gonna do it. d e s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 03:52:13 -0800 From: thomas Subject: (exotica) Shag (working with) >Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:30:49 -0500 >From: "m.ace" >Subject: (exotica) new Shag paintings > >Launch those browsers -- there's a fresh batch of Shag paintings on exhibit >at La Luz de Jesus gallery: > >http://www.laluzdejesus.com/ just wanted to comment on Mr. Shag..... recently we needed packaging artwork for a new product we're developing (a modern christmas....i mean "holiday" tree). i contacted Shag...and the rest is history. just wanted to make a public "thank you" to one of the nicest artists i've ever met! he went out of his way to bend over backwards for us....and looking at the laluz gallery prices, an incredibly reasonable price! if anyone would like to see a JPEG of the finished artwork, just let me know. tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:00:17 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution In a message dated 1/12/99 6:57:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, des@anubis23.demon.co.uk writes: << when list members are more interested in making money for themselves than supporting artists, i don't see much integrity in these self-styled acts of liberation. there are other ways to reissue material: >> I think the point is REALLY MISSED HERE. I think the main purpose of "booting" these CD, comps, etc. is to spread the music. Some are making money but not most. It is no different than making cassettes for your friends, it is just doing it on a different media. Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:35:55 -0500 From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Kahiki Question We live in Cinci and often travel to Cleveland, which means the Kahiki is pretty much on our way up 71. My question is, besides the atmosphere, how's the food? All I know is, we had recommendations to visit Casa Bonita because it was "so neat", but we waited in line almost an hour and the food was quite possibly the worst meal I've ever eaten (or not eaten, after a few bites). Is this Kahiki joint the same way, or is their food actually palatable? Someone please let me know. Thanks! Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:18:34 -0500 From: "naile" Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahiki Question Ah, the Kahiki- For atmosphere, its unbeatable. The food is above average to quite good, depending on what you get. Standard Chinese-modified-to-Polynesian fare. It is a bit pricey, but the experience alone is worth it. I can't say its the best meal I've ever eaten, but I will say it was considerably better than my experience with Casa Bonita as well. The mixed drinks are also quite good. The Kahiki must be doing something right with their menu, as the place is consistently packed, and seems to have a long history of such. A lot of native Columbus-ites dine there, and it plays host to major business lunches, proms, and everything else. Getting there from I-71 is actually relatively easy. Take I-71, and take the I-670 exit TOWARDS the airport. Get off at Hamilton Rd, heading South. At the intersection of Hamilton and Broad, take a right onto E. Broad St. I can't honestly remember how many lights you'll pass through (I moved to Atlanta in June). To help you out with some landmarks, however.... the intersection of Hamilton and Broad will have a Shell Station on the right, a Speedway gas station on the left, and a "Flowerama" on the diagonal left. When travelling down E. Broad, you'll be heading *toward* the city. The Kahiki will be on the left. The best I can tell you, is that when you pass the K-mart on your right hand side, you are practically there. By then, you should see the place anyway, as it is enormous. I hope you check the place out. Most of all, I hope you have fun. Make sure (if you're the drinking type) to order the Mystery Drink. :) hope this info helps! - -Kev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:49:16 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment In the UK, I'm charged =A33 extra for a registered letter to the US. = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:35:34 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) More on foreign payment Ton Rueckert wrote: > a letter with money is considered a package, and > will be charged accordingly: $20. You're not supposed to put coins or barrels of gold in it! I did send (paper-)money that way and others did too and it worked fine. I mean: Let every 3rd letter with 25 bucks inside disappear and you have still saved money compared to bank or int. money order fees. Only thing: You have to trust the payee of your $, Pound, Euro, Yen, Yuan, Kronen, guilders... Oh, now I understand: You have a friend on this southsea island - wasn't it one of the Marquesas? - where they use 10 feet/2 tons-stone coins as currency. Yeah, you shouldn't send them in an envelope. Hmm, let's see: Let your friend in the Marquesas drop a coin into the ocean and simply win energy from a tidal powerstation when the shockwaves arrive in Holland! You can run your Hifi equipment from it for 3 days. > Registering a letter as a > letter will have the advantage that it's slightly more safe > than an ordinary letter, but your claims will be worthless, > should it get lost. You have to declare the value of the letter and then you get exactely that back in the case of a loss, no? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:15:52 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution I think we all realise that bootlegging somebody else's material is against the law but those of us who are considering doing it are obviously prepared to break those laws. And pressing a couple of thousand copies of an LP, with cover art and labels, to be distributed to record shops for sale is definately NOT the same as making cassettes for your friends. Charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:53:13 -0500 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG" Subject: (exotica) Stalactpipe Organ Alright, I will contribute to this thread, against my best judgement... I was there in, oh, around 1982. The deal was you walked through Luray Caverns and saw these wierd rocks with lights shining on them and through them (turkish towels, they said they looked like) and it was like another planet. In the middle of this cave, or somewhere inside like, is this consloe organ. Looks like and OLD concert organ, with drawbars on each side and three registers. Nobody plays it for the tour, and nobody is allowed to play it, which I thought, being a wannabe musician, was pretty bogus. But they have a programmed tune that they play, I dont know what it is, and it was quite cool sounding. Like being inside a set of vibes the size of Wisconsin. To correct a previous post, they were not tuned. They were hit with rubber mallets to find the ones with the correct pitch. It indeed took 3 years to find the 6 or so octaves. It sounds weird too because some of the 'pipes' are up to 3 miles away, the conductive properties of the 'tites and mites' help the sound to carry, but there is a delay. You would not be able to play fast trills or any pizzicato staccatto type notes. They would sound like a drone. Of particular interest to some, .... they have old photos of weddings and functions that they used to do down there, there's a big dance floor by the organ console. Im sure that for the right price, the owners could be convinced to do your New Years 2000 party there. But would Dick Hyman and Lenny Dee play a cave? surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:08:43 PST From: Keith Lo Bue Subject: (exotica) Re: The Great Stalacpipe Organ Yep, it's true, the organ is still around...I went on a roadside attraction tour a few years back. Heard the organ (and videotaped it!) on autopilot. Leland Sprinkle Jr. is no longer with us, I'm afraid. But his legacy lives on! I got a cassette of the organ repertoire....an absolutely amazing instrument. I always thought Luray could make a bundle by renting out the organ for experimental musicians to record on. Haunting beautiful muted tones with the ever present echoey drips of a cave. A totally unique sound construction. Worth the trip! Keith +++++++++++++++++++++ KEITH E. LO BUE +++++++++++++++++++++ FOUND-OBJECT ARTWORK http://www.lobue-art.com +++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Stalactpipe Organ If not, there is always Gus Farney: master of the colossal wurlitzer. > But would Dick Hyman and Lenny Dee play a cave? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:17:47 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) Long L&R review I was greatly reluctant to attend the reunion of Jon Hendricks and Annie Ross last Friday, in Cambridge. Friends, I am soooo glad I went. With all the greats being dead or in ill health, this was such a rare treat. The combo with them was decent, and played a few songs before they came out. The drummer was one of the original Ike Isaacs Trio, too. The guitar player plucked the "lines" that the late Dave Lambert would have sung. Annie and Jon then proceeded to the stage, and I just couldn't believe how good and sharp they looked! Tears immediately filled my eyes. It was just unbelievable to be seeing these icons! Then, when they did their first song, I just lost it! I felt like Tom Waits in SHORT CUTS! Annie's voice, it is no surprise, has degraded for years, but her lower register still sounds solid, that sort of raspy voice that hard livin' jazz ladies get after awhile. She was elegantly dressed in black velvet, with bright red hair! And her singing, even without those vocal gymnastics, was strong! She just has that STAR POWER! Jon Hendricks, on the other hand, for all his nearly 80s years, sounds a-freakin-mazing! In fact, his voice hasn't changed much at all since the 1950s! He had a red suit on...very show biz! Highlights of the show included Annie singing her "Twisted" and Jon Hendricks performing a "work in progress"(in his words) of the arrangement of John Coltrane and Miles Davis "Bye Bye Blackbird." While saying he had the Miles parts down, he said about Coltrane, "I told my wife, it's a good thing that cat's dead, or __I'd__ kill 'em" He also did a great call and response "Gimme that Wine." Both were stellar on "Come on Home." One of the most beautiful things about this now duo, is they are keeping that vocalese form ALIVE! The jazz combo, too, helped to authenticate that form. I just feared that the show would be glitzy-schmaltzy, with like a Casio or something. I really should have known better. So many of the records I listen to are by dead people, or singers like Julie London who are content to smoke as opposed to whip their voice back into shape. This was a rare treat, and if they come to your town, you'll be remiss...if you miss. Sincerely, Jane Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:39:16 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) 'lil show Thanks for this indulgence: My group AstroSlut is performing for free, this Friday night, in Boston, at the Charles Playhouse Lounge, on Warrenton St. (Theatre District.) It's just us, and we go on after 11pm. That's all, go on with what you were doing...Jane Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:42:16 -0500 From: "Michael Bennet" Subject: (exotica) Great Stalactite Organ Yes, it most definitely still exists. I heard it this summer when I visited Luray. They demonstrate it periodically throughout the day. Apparently, they still use it for the occasional wedding. It's a cool concept, but the sound (and song selection) won't knock you out. I wouldn't make a special trip, but if you're in the MD, VA, WV area . . . Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:46:45 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) See for yourself Little known to me, there are pix on the web of my group...BTW-people ask "which gal are you?" It's a double-image of me.....jez one Jane Fondle, they say.... (http://www.tiac.net/users/violet/astroslut1.html) Thanks, Robbie, for pointing this out to me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:04:35 EST From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) See for yourself In a message dated 99-01-12 11:50:38 EST, the Fondle woman writes: << Little known to me, there are pix on the web of my group...BTW-people ask "which gal are you?" It's a double-image of me.....jez one Jane Fondle, they say.... (http://www.tiac.net/users/violet/astroslut1.html) Thanks, Robbie, for pointing this out to me! >> And the lower pictures at that site look like she is naked, man, that really is "Astroslut" Oh, the top ones look like she has a bra on (like Susan Meschkey I guess). Jane, you have to give these details if you want people to really look!!! Robert (or according to Jane . . . .Robbie) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:31:29 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) See for yourself Don't get me started on Jane's bras! By the way, thanks to Jane and Drew for the fabulous drop-ins they prepared for my radio program...Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs Tuesdays on WMBR, Cambridge from 6-8 a.m. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:36:19 -0500 From: Tom Karches Subject: Re: (exotica) On the Rocks Nat Kone wrote: > And then there's the really hot stuff like Bud Shank and Howard Roberts and > that Bob Thiele record with Bill Plummer where they do "light my fire". > Completely changing the subject, there is a killer cha-cha version of "Light My Fire" on "Heading South of the Border" by Edmundo Ros....also includes a latin version of Mrs. Robinson. Tom - -- Tom Karches Systems Programmer, North Carolina State University twk@ncsu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:43:05 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way Don't get me started on Jane's bras! By the way, thanks to Jane and Drew for the fabulous drop-ins they prepared for my radio program...Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs Tuesdays on WMBR, Cambridge from 6-8 a.m. >You are rather welcome...and that's "Quinn Martian," doll, not "Drew." Yes, when in Boston and up at 6AM, you *must* listen to "Jimmy's Easy." But y'all have seen the play-lists...they speak volumes! Jimmy, any chance of getting them on real audio for the underprivaleged out there? ;^)...Jane Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:39:06 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's I already know who some of you are, but I'm helping a friend distribute his new CD, his band's first. They are X-Ray Tango and they do "instrumental- lounge-surf-exotica" sounding stuff. They are advertising the CD in the next "Cool & Strange Music" and have asked me to find you to get you your promo copies. E-Mail me back your addresses and name and times of radio show, station call letters, city of origin and station telephone numbers please. Thanks in advance...Jimmy Botticelli/agent man~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:26:47 -0500 From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Exotica 101 I'd check out the following: All three Space Age Pop comps from RCA. For my money, the best of all of them. The UL series is pretty good. Anything on Scamp records is usually pretty good. The Sound Galleries, The Music for TV Dinners, the John Barry stuff, the Martin Denny stuff, the Walter Wanderly disc and so on. I recently got Talkin' Verve with a Twist and the other titles look good. Also do a search under "bossa" and you'll find good stuff, including Quincy Jones' Big Band Bossa Nova. For new bands, ComEd, Don Tiki, L'Atome, Oranj Symphonette, Action Plus and Kahimi Karie are some of my favorites. Basically, just stay tuned to the list and make a note of anything that seems interesting. Also, tune into real audio stuff, like www.tamboo.com or the Lounge show on www.kanu.org or various other places. Anyway, my knowledge of the stuff, though still minimal, has grown unbelievably just by reading the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:54:12 -0000 From: "Robert Baldock" Subject: (Fwd) Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution Rcbrooksod wrote: > I think the point is REALLY MISSED HERE. I think the main > purpose of "booting" these CD, comps, etc. is to spread the  > music. Some are making money but not most. It is no different > than making cassettes for your friends, it is just doing it on a > different media. I think you'll find that's exactly what des was saying too! I'm OK with doing this but not when we get to the stage of slapping two rare LPs on a CD and flogging copies for $25 a throw... Robbie - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:54:12 -0000 From: "Robert Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution d e s wrote: > when list members are more interested in making money for > themselves than supporting artists, i don't see much integrity > in these self-styled acts of liberation. there are other ways > to reissue material: On the whole, I heartily agree with your thoughtful post on the subject.. Robbie - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:57:28 -0000 From: "Robert Baldock" Subject: Re: (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's DJJimmyBee wrote: > I already know who some of you are, but I'm helping a friend > distribute his new CD, his band's first. They are X-Ray Tango and > they do "instrumental- lounge-surf-exotica" sounding stuff. I hope to be on local (Edinburgh, UK) radio again in March so if that's of any interest, you could send me a copy. Robbie ("DJ Bongo Boy") - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** ** ** * Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website * ** ** ** ** ** ** * http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/ * ** ** ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:10:46 -0800 From: cscheffy@kinglet.Berkeley.EDU Subject: (exotica) Ahmad Jamal I know, he's a jazz guy (mostly), but with some amazing Exotica sounds on some records. This may be old hat to many of you, but I thought I'd share it anyway. Jamal's "Macanudo" (on Argo) is around on LP, and often cheap, and has some great jazz/exotica arrangements by the great Richard Evans. Evans' arranging is more of a cool/exotic sound compared to his later funky stuff for Cadet artists. Just a quick recommendation after finally buying this record after passing on it many times. It lives in a fine world between jazz and exotica. Jamal's album "Freeflight" has a nice version of "Poinciana" that's worth a listen as well. Can anyone recommend other Jamal albums with exotic flavor? Clark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:14:06 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Ernie TV and more Thursday night at 8:00pm and midnight (eastern), AMC reruns their "Biography" of Ernie Kovacs. Also Thursday, at 4:00pm AMC airs "Tobor The Great" (1954) a 'Lassie' for space-age kids (well, the ending makes *this* tyke a little misty anyway). Later that day, at 8:00pm and 2:30am AMC runs "The Manchurian Candidate" (1962) again. Late showing is supposed to be in letterbox format. Friday afternoon at 1:15pm, AMC has "Pete Kelly's Blues" (1955) Jack Webb's tale of a 20s jazz bandleader who keeps gettin' hassled by gangsters. With performances by Peggy Lee and Ella Fitzgerald. Also Janet Leigh, Edmond O'Brien, Jayne Mansfield (tiny role as a cigarette girl). And Lee Marvin on clarinet -- don't mess with him! m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:12:35 -0500 From: "naile" Subject: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)? Bootlegging. Well, let's look at this, because in many of my other hobbies (Italian Horror films, Japanese Monster movies, etc) this seems to be a constant issue. First and foremost, one should consider whether or not anyone owns the rights to a certain recorded work or not. Often, the rights will eventually go "public domain" if they are not maintained by the owner, thus allowing for things like the $9.99 movie bin at your local Suncoast Video. A lot of artists don't own the rights to their own works. Sad, but true. Next, (and I admit that from a legal standpoint this is bs), comes the "moral" issue. It is one thing to say the artists are being robbed, but truthfully the "exposure" also helps. If you don't believe me, walk into your local video store and look at the anime section. When I first started watching anime (early 80's) the majority of what was available was crappy fan-subbed bootlegs at conventions. Due to the enormous amount of money being made on these, as well as the exposure, some distribution companies took notice and actually obtained the rights to releases, giving them legitimate distribution, and (hey, its a business- let's be realistic) making some money in the process. Also, they released superior product. You cannot tell me that the anime boom in America would have happened without the bootleggers. Sad fact #3: Sometimes the bootleg is superior to the "legitimate" release. My copy of the Blade Runner soundtrack on CD is from Off-World Music, who did a "private" printing of 2000 copies. This is far superior to the "legit" release which contains little music actually *from* the movie. Also, I seriously doubt that there will be a widespread release of completely letterboxed and subtitled Godzilla films in the united states anytime soon. However, due to a few enterprising individuals, and a loophole in the Berne Act, I have a beautiful collection. Don't get me wrong, I see both sides to the argument. And I will most times choose the legit product over a bootleg. However, if the bootleg offers me something more, I will take my money there. Again, case in point, my recent purchase of a 96 minute cut of ARMY OF DARKNESS from Singapore. The "legit" US release runs 89(?) minutes. I think ultimately, the exposure is the most important. I don't necessarily agree with making an obscene profit, however expenses should be covered, and I don't have a problem with paying if the "packaging" is attractive. By creating the exposure, the word of mouth, the labels are forced to realize that they are losing money. This can give the artist leverage, also. "Hey, why aren't you doing something about the demand for my music??" I don't have an answer on how to balance the two sides of the argument. If I like an artist, then I want them to be successful. I want them to make money from their craft. I also don't want their works gathering dust in a few isolated collections and becoming "forgotten". Tape-trading is nice, but it is not the wake up call to the labels that money is. I got out of the music industry 3 years ago. The 8 years I spent in it beforehand taught me enough to know that it won't change anytime soon. Sorry to ramble. - -Kev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:03:17 EST From: JayMan282@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) On the Rocks In a message dated 1/12/99 10:39:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, twk@unity.ncsu.edu writes: << Completely changing the subject, there is a killer cha-cha version of "Light My Fire" on "Heading South of the Border" by Edmundo Ros....also includes a latin version of Mrs. Robinson. >> Frank Sinatra also ahas a great big band version of "Mrs. Robinson" from his MY WAY album. Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #287 *****************************