From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #331 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Wednesday, February 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 331 In This Digest: (exotica) Luis Bacalov Re: (exotica) Barbarella Re: (exotica) The City! Re: (exotica) Melancholy Serenade Re: (exotica) Taboo tiki 2 Re: (exotica) The City! Re: (exotica) 2 CD Capitol Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe (exotica) Divas Exotica review (exotica) Noam Pitlik obit Re: (exotica) made to order- (exotica) Desco et al Re: (exotica) Desco et al Re: (exotica) The City! (23-Skidoo!) (exotica) Schlager & film soundtracks (exotica) Scores Du Jour... Re: (exotica) made to order- (exotica) one way to spent y2k new year's Re: (exotica) Desco/Wagram Records (exotica) Sheet Music (exotica) UL Bonus Tracks Re: (exotica) Sheet Music ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 12:24:34 +0100 From: Bissia Subject: (exotica) Luis Bacalov I have that Kid Loco album for a long while now (but ok I'm in europe) but who is (see subject) ? tia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:21:55 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella Nat Kone wrote: > Your issue of "1 to 1" film music would be an interesting one to pursue > some time. As far as I understand your use of that term, I would say > that's the concept upon which the vast majority of scores are based and > even if most of them are somewhat less than imaginative, they also usually > "work". > I believe that Shaft is a perfect example of "1 to 1" film music that > happened to really complement the film and made it better than it would > have been. > This is a contradiction in itself. If you say, the music complements the film and makes it better than it is without it, you say, that it adds something to the film, that the film doesn't have by itself. > > But maybe I don't know what you mean by "1 to 1". > > But I don't believe that Mr. Hayes was trying to create music that was a > "counterpoint" to the film. I believe he was trying to absolutely match > the sensibility, setting and ambience of the film itself. It just happened > that his music was better than the film. By "1 to 1" I mean to express in the music what you already see in the picture, I think I had said that. And as you say, this is a very common thing and I don't see many film composers these days who are not aware of it. Like when a person approaches a dangerous situation the music will sound alarming as long as s/he isn't already in trouble. "1 to 1" would be absolute silence in that situation as not to warn the bad guys or the monster the person is hiding from. If "the others" suddenly notice him/her, usually "action music" will start, or plain silence. As I said, this is so common that you don't notice it anymore, and you hardly ever see a different use of film music anymore. Now, for the general style of a music for a given film something similar is the case - and here you see big differences in quality even these days. The most famous example of a "counterpoint" film music is of course Kubrick's "2001": The first scene that shows a high tech space craft is illustrated by this really old-fashioned 19th century waltz "An der schoenen blauen Donau" by Strauss. The actual picture is out there in cold space showing this profane piece of engineering and you hear the soothing romantic melody of a K.u.K. dancehall. It is a counterpoint, in the sense of you wouldn't expect this soundtrack here. And of course it "works" because when you bring these elements together they "fit" telling a whole new story, the story of human ingeniuity that is able to bring his natural environment into inhospitable worlds and conducts complicated technical machines lightly as an orchestra that plays a waltz, so you literally forget that it is technique at all. I'm surprised you don't see similar musical forces at work in "Shaft". I must admit, my memory of the film is a bit vague, as I have seen it a long time ago, but as far as I can remember, the very glamorous music makes an interesting contrast to the dirty work in the most unglamorous places this detective has to do. And this makes also the success of the figure Shaft himself: Everybody would like to be gloryfied like this, like being a glamorous person in the ordinary things one does everyday. Often you see meant-to-be funny films that work with "funny" music and so often it is not funny at all and looks so cheap: Cases of "1 to 1" that failed. But when you see a clown doing funny things to really sad music, it can touch you deeply.... A very refined understanding of film music you find in "The Outsiders". Carmine Coppola almost doesn't do any film music at all. Although you hear music nearly all the time, it becomes pure noise. Like in this scene, when this boy runs away from home and meets his friend in the park you hear very low volume main stream rock as coming from a nearby house or a car. It's absolutely not the kind of music that expresses fear and loneliness, but still it works like this here, because it expresses that "the others" are having fun somewhere in their houses and the two boys don't belong to them anymore and are outsiders now. > Mostly though I'm curious about your use of the word "camp". Usually > something becomes a "camp classic" only in retrospect. If the music works > for you NOW, that may not be much of a reflection on whether it was an > appropriate choice at the time. I knew you would ask that. I was almost done with my explanation until I deleted it, because I thought, this has been explained too often. But of course it should be done again for this case of Barbarella. > Let's face it. In the case of films like Barbarella and lots of biker > films and hippy films too, they hired composers who they thought could give > them a "hip" sound that matched their "hip" sensibility. Sometimes they got > lucky and the composer actually came up with something that matched the > film > > I can't > even say that I'm certain that the director was purposely going for a > "camp" sensibility but I'm pretty sure the composer wasn't. That was > pretty well the kind of music he was making at the time which is why, as > cheryl pointed out, it sounded so familiar to me. > Of course I do not know what had happened in 1967 when they made all this and took their decisions, but you might underestimate the abilities of these people a bit. I'm pretty sure the camp aspect was intended in Barbarella, even if they had not called it camp. But everything that happens fits so perfectly in what I think is "camp", that I'm not able to believe it's all pure coincidence. It's all so iridescent and dazzling. The images of space machinery is always broken into phantastic, often old-fashioned looks. The fur-inside of Barbarella's ship is the ultimate contradiction to high-tech. Behind all of this you can almost hear the message: Yes, we are using the damn technology of those blockheaded burocratic engineers, but we don't care for it, we care for our own glamorous styling. Even the fact that the film isn't so dramatic adds to the general feeling of arrogance that is a typical camp attitude, like saying: Entertain you? Why? If WE are not interesting enough ourselves, go away and watch another movie! You mentioned the trippy aspect: Same here: We go on a trip, but we don't admit it. It's not the drug, it's us who is so psychedelic, because we are so strange and beautiful. Even the bad black queen is so beautiful that we kind of love her, etc. I would call all of this a very campy pose. Although I must admit "camp" has been a difficult term to explain since it came up, because it seems to be in its own nature to try to escape from all kinds of fixations. You gotta be cool to feel the heat! - -Mo - ------------------------------------ #Exotica mailing list frequently asked questions at: http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:18:50 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) The City! In a message dated 2/22/99 1:48:12 PM EST, bellybongo@hotmail.com writes: << Would like to know if the group "23 Skidoo" took there name from this funny fluid, or does "23 skidoo" mean something else? >> Believe it or not, the term "23 skidoo" stems from one of New York City's windiest locations being in front of the Flatiron building (the triangular building where it can get particularly windy because of the convergence of Fifth Avenue and Broadway, togehter with 23rd Street (one of New York's few four lane cross streets) and the rather unobstructed-by-buildings area caused by Madison Square Park to the north. Because of this wind, during the 1920's men used to hang out in front of the the Flatiorn building to girlwatch in anticiaption that the wind would sweep women's dresses up, causing the police to have to disperse this girl watchers which became called giving them "the 23 skidoo." One of those companies that deal with archival films actually sell films of this phenomenon. (Remember also around this time one of the most popular fun house rides at Coney Island ended with a skirt blowing machine and there were several rows of seats where people could watch patrons coming out of the ride to see women's skirts blown up above their knees or higher.) I guess times were different then! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:27:36 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Melancholy Serenade In a message dated 2/23/99 2:37:29 PM EST, risser@goodnews.net writes: << This tune was indeed penned by Gleason and was used as the theme for the Honeymooners. >> One more time..."Melancholy Serenade" was used for Gleason's variety show and "You're My Greatest Love" (also penned by Gleason) is the theme to the Honeymooners. I should know this as I put together the Jackie Gleason "And Awaaay We Go!" Cd which features both! Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:30:29 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo tiki 2 In a message dated 2/23/99 2:48:29 PM EST, Ottotemp@aol.com writes: << To many people Tiki bar's are the place you go to get drunk on fruity drink's but Otto Von Strohiem and Brynne Cortez (Taboo promoter's) take thier Tiki ambience AND entertainment seriously. This month they feature Traditional Hula Lessons and "The Best Lei" contest. >> So you have to get lucky to enter "The Best Lei"contest??? Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:58:41 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) The City! LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/22/99 1:48:12 PM EST, bellybongo@hotmail.com writes: > > << Would like to know if the group "23 Skidoo" took there name from this > funny fluid, or does "23 skidoo" mean something else? > >> > > Believe it or not, the term "23 skidoo" stems from one of New York City's > windiest locations being in front of the Flatiron building (the triangular > building where it can get particularly windy because of the convergence of > Fifth Avenue and Broadway, togehter with 23rd Street (one of New York's few > four lane cross streets) and the rather unobstructed-by-buildings area caused > by Madison Square Park to the north. Because of this wind, during the 1920's > men used to hang out in front of the the Flatiorn building to girlwatch in > anticiaption that the wind would sweep women's dresses up, causing the police > to have to disperse this girl watchers which became called giving them "the 23 > skidoo." One of those companies that deal with archival films actually sell > films of this phenomenon. (Remember also around this time one of the most > popular fun house rides at Coney Island ended with a skirt blowing machine and > there were several rows of seats where people could watch patrons coming out > of the ride to see women's skirts blown up above their knees or higher.) I > guess times were different then! > > Ashley Even if this is the true origin of the word: I heard the band took the idea from Robert Anton Wilson's "Illuminatus!" , where a fictitous band with this name is mentioned. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:59:28 EST From: LTepedino@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 CD Capitol Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter In a message dated 2/23/99 8:00:10 PM EST, kevin@kevdo.com writes: << Actually, I think I'd disagree. I went through my collection and based on the stuff I've heard and like from the Capitol and Scamp collections, I'd probably make different choices myself. For example, where's "Exotica" or "Similau"? Also, this collection took 4 songs from the Quiet Village album (not including "Quiet Village" which also appeared on "Exotica"). My personal opinion is that the Quiet Village album was not Denny's best, certainly ranking below Exotica, Exotica II, Hypnotique, and Afro-Desia. It is very difficult to do a best of with so many albums and so many great tunes. Collections always bring some personal bias with them. In the case of the Toshiba EMI one you may have noticed a certain affinity towards the more Japanese flavored tunes. In the case of tracks from the "Quiet Village" album there are two in particular - "Firecracker" (reworked many years later by Yellow Magic Orchestra) and "Sake Rock" (both of which are actually different arrangements of the same song! (Denny humorously pointed this out while being interviewed for the liner notes!!) My own personal tastes would have to rank "Quiet Village" higher than "Exotica 2" for the high concisentcy of quality. We all would make different choices, this is certainly not a bad collection by any means. Also, you mentioned the inaccuracies of the Capitol collection. I'd love to see Denny's notes on all the inaccuracies! :-) However, I will point out that the Scamp version of Afro-Desia has an error in the liner notes; the Exotica album spent five weeks at #1, not Quiet Village album (at least, according to my sources). >> You are absolutely correct.about "Exotica" being the album. That was an oversight which was discovered after the print run was done! These notes were done prior to Denny doing his own notes and the great ammount of researched pored into the 2 on1 series of Denny CDs. Ashley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:04:13 +0000 From: Jonathan.Perl@mail.ing.nl Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe >Bob Thiele "Do the Love" and Bob Crewe Generation "Music to Watch >BIRDS By" The Bob Crewe album is one of my favorite LPs, so I'm always interested to hear of similar albums. So Nat, could you elaborate a little on the Bob Thiele album? I still wonder why the lyrics to 'birds of britain' are included on the cover but not sung. Further trivia: one of the 'birds' on the inside of the gatefold is the same as the cover image used for the Smiths album 'Rank'. regards Jonny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:31:39 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Divas Exotica review by ENS/Terry Atkinson Ever since someone deemed Madonna a ``diva'' back in the 1980s, the operatic term has been increasingly used to describe pop music's prima donnas. However, there's always been something slightly ridiculous about its application to caterwauling R&B-pop queens Mariah Carey and Celine Dion. So who can blame Capitol Records for pushing that ludicrous aspect to the limit by using the word retroactively for female performers from the past? That's just what the label has cleverly -- and delightfully -- done for the new compact disc, ``Divas Exotica.'' The ``Divas'' part of the title might be highly questionable, considering some of the chosen artists -- from Marlene Dietrich to Shirley Bassey to, gulp, Jayne Mansfield. But ``Exotica'' certainly fits this madcap mix of the seductively sultry and the downright silly. The CD producers' aim is clearly not art but campy amusement, even when involving such legendary vocalists as Billie Holiday, Edith Piaf and Nina Simone -- and definitely regarding rarely heard singles sung (or, sometimes, half-talked, half-purred) by '50s sex goddesses Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Brigitte Bardot and Mamie Van Doren. Scattered among these 19 tracks are a few comparatively serious, standard recordings -- Piaf's bowl-you-over rendering of ``Jezebel'' (translated into French by Charles Aznavour), a softly swaying ``So Nice (Summer Samba)'' by Astrud Gilberto that's as alluring as her hit ``The Girl from Ipanema,'' a saucier-than-usual Holiday urging her man to ``Do Your Duty,'' Bassey's always-impressive but too-familiar ``Goldfinger'' and a couple of high-spirited goodies from the great jazz-blues chanteuse Simone (``Forbidden Fruit,'' ``Feeling Good''), the only performer represented by more than one song. For the most part, though, ``Divas Exotica'' is frothy celebration of camp. And while the overall touch is definitely light, it's surprising how passable (or better) much of the singing is by several actresses who were certainly more accustomed to a film studio than a recording studio. For instance, even though it's almost three minutes into ``Heatwave'' (from the soundtrack of ``There's No Business Like Show Business'') before Monroe actually starts singing (before that she merely sighs occasional sweet nothings to the male chorus), she essays Irving Berlin's witty lines in a manner that's as solid as it is sexy. Even better than Monroe is Ann-Margret, whose ``Let Me Entertain You'' is smart, sassy and smooth as silk. Likewise, Loren handles the lilting ``Zoo Be Zoo Be Zoo'' (from a picture she made with Peter Sellers, ``The Millionairess'') with breezy charm. Brigitte Bardot belts out ``Je Me Donne a Qui Me Plait'' (which translates as ``I Give Myself to Whom I Please'') with swinging sureness. And Carmen Miranda sails with ease through the swift Latin currents of ``Mama Eu Quero (I Want My Mama)'' -- which won't jolt folks who know she was one of Brazil's most popular recording artists before moving to Hollywood, but may be revealing for those who never got past her wild costumes and goofy screen demeanor to realize what an accomplished singer she was. Chiefly chosen for laughs, and sure to get them, are Mansfield's ``That Makes It,'' a breathy take-off on the Big Bopper's ``Chantilly Lace,'' and Van Doren's dumbing down of Caribbean music in a piece of fluff called ``Go, Go, Calypso.'' More in the category of interesting curiosities are Yma Sumac's ``La Molina'' and Maya Angelou's ``Since Me (CQ) Man Has Done Gone and Went.'' Sumac claimed to be a Peruvian descended from Inca royalty, though it was rumored she was born and raised in Brooklyn. In any case, she gained considerable popularity in the early '50s because of her four-octave range and truly exotic recordings. ``La Molina'' perfectly illustrates her still-vital cult appeal. She starts out by emitting deep, ominous growls, moves on to flowery declarations, and then soars up to soprano heights. It may shock fans of Angelou to know that before she became a world-acclaimed poet, author, teacher, actor, film director and much else, she made an album, ``Miss Calypso,'' back in 1957. The acceptable but unimpressive excerpt included here will make those fans happy she moved on to other pursuits. The Angelou anomaly isn't the only letdown on ``Divas Exotica.'' Dietrich, once a superb, sensual vocalist, was obviously a prima donna well past her prime by the time she recorded ``Near You'' in 1947. Same goes for Josephine Baker's relatively late-in-life ``Don't Touch My Tomatoes,'' though the risque number's still fairly lively fun. Eartha Kitt is far from being at her best on a mannered, tiresome rendition of ``Let's Misbehave.'' And April Stevens, best known for her 1963 hit duet, ``Deep Purple,'' with Nino Tempo (they were brother and sister -- real names Carol and Antonio LoTempo), sounds pretty weak on her own ``Teach Me Tiger,'' recorded two years earlier. All in all, though, ``Divas Exotica'' is a delicious, if daffy, delight. (c) 1999, Los Angeles Times Syndicate For release Sunday, February 28, 1999 END # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:31:41 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) Noam Pitlik obit *Noam Pitlik LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Television director Noam Pitlik, who went from acting in such shows as ``Hogan's Heroes'' to directing ``Barney Miller,'' ``Taxi'' and ``Wings,'' died Thursday of lung cancer. He was 66. Pitlik was a familiar face on TV series and commercials, including Mr. Gianelli on ``The Bob Newhart Show.'' He also portrayed several Nazi officers on ``Hogan's Heroes.'' He had several character actor roles in movies such as ``The Front Page,'' ``The Fortune Cookie,'' ``The Graduate,'' ``The Greatest Story Ever Told'' and ``A Child is Waiting.'' http://allmovie.com/cg/x.exe?USR=9:28:07|AM&p=avg&sql=ENoam|Pitlik http://us.imdb.com/Name?Pitlik,+Noam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:32:19 EST From: Thinkmatic@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) made to order- In a message dated 2/23/99 11:57:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, bumpy@megsinet.net writes: > Have no fear, the time is here! > With the mention of Mp3's earlier last week, > this is what we can and will do, > make our own comps, on CD of course. > To heck with settling for other peoples tastes and biases in our music > collection! :P (i am only partly serious) > We can hear it and have it with a click of our mouse. > (if some collector made it available) > like my man Roy G. Biv is starting to do. I'm not alone. There are other list subscribers (I won't mention any names) who are as into the idea as I. Not to mention that they have more extensive music collections then I do. I see it as a public library of exotica (Space Age Pop, Now, etc.), if there's something you want to hear you should be able to check it out, so to speak. With the potential of fitting 75 to 100 mp3ed albums on a DVD-rom disc you could have the record collection of Mickey McGowan, of Unknown Museum fame, (15,000+ albums), you could have the entire collect on about 150 DVDs. How would you like to check one of those babies out of the library? Take it home, pop it in your computer, hit the shuffle button on your mp3 player. You'd have the party mix of the century for your next month long Love-in. It's mind boggling. More realistically 8-10 albums on a CD-R, is still a pretty nice idea for those of use who are mass consumers of music. Take a few songs from each and fry up a compilation audio CD to fit your many moods. Plus with a little scanning, and OCR software you can tuck the album art and liner notes for each album on the CD-R, too. It takes a little work, but as the technology gets faster, cheaper and more compact, it really isn't that much work. That's it from Moon Base Alpha, - -Roy G. Biv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:36:53 -0800 From: Jack Subject: (exotica) Desco et al Subject: (exotica) Desco/Wagram Records Can anyone provide reviews for any of these reissues released by Desco Records/Disques Wagram: "The Other Side", "The Daktaris", "Sugarman Three", "Nino Nardini & the Pop Riviera Group", "The Revenge of Mister Mopoji" (soundtrack) or "Junior Jet Set" ?? Thanks in advance... Allan Personally, I'm not crazy about any of these in their entirety, except "Revenge of Mister Mopoji", but that's just me! One that is soooooooooooper terrific release though, not mentioned (which I have for sale on CD.) is the "Dave Pike Set-Got the Feelin'". A true original rarity released in Holland, circa 1969, of a limited pressing of 1000 copies, vinyl. It's Jazzy Go Go Sounds featuring Vibes (Dave Pike), Elec. Gtr, Fender Bass, Drums and Organ. SOOPER COOL! with "Spooky", which someone heard me play on my show and bought fro me on the spot. 5 Stars. Desco has also just released (which I carry) "Spike's Choice", which is a 22 track collection of ALL of the limited to 1000 pressings, which by the way are ALL out of print of their 45's, which include 4 Sitar funk go go instrumentals. 5 Stars! It's im-poss-i-ble to get closer to that authentic 70's funk sound from anywhere in THIS modern world, than from Desco. PURE FUNK, NO BULL. Both are $14 each plus shipping, if you're interested Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:52:39 +0000 From: "Charles Moseley" Subject: Re: (exotica) Desco et al Sugarman Three is a nice boogaloo LP - Sounds authentic but it could easily be new dressed as old. Not really exotica at all but not bad if you're into that sound: James Brown in the mid sixties meets R&B/hammond grooves. Cool-ish. The Revenge of Mr Mopoji is definately new music - not an original soundtrack. Average JBs style funkiness with no outstanding tracks - nothing special. Dave Pike's Got the Feeling is an outstanding LP though, although I didn't realise it was on the same label. Euro-jazz collectors go mad for this one - - the original has a very hefty price tag - very cool. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:33:08 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) The City! (23-Skidoo!) >Even if this is the true origin of the word: I heard the band took the idea from >Robert Anton Wilson's "Illuminatus!" , where a fictitous band with this name is >mentioned. "Illuminatus!" includes further conjecture on the sources of "23 Skidoo" in Appendix Tzaddi. m.:ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:30:46 -0500 From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) Schlager & film soundtracks Nat writes: > As long as I don't get cheryl angry at me, I'll be happy. She and Brian > have promised me an evening of Schlager music and some kind of > complementary food - perhaps fondue??? - in the near future and I don't > want to jeopardize that. Got the accordian primed up and the lederhosen and Heino glasses ready... along with that great LP Allan sent me of the singing waiters from the centennial project of Winnipeg's German communty in 1970. A real crowd pleaser!!! Seriously though, I do intend to take this opportunity to sell Nat on Schlager and I do think some of it would be of serious interest to fellow exoticans but for the fact that here in Canada at least, it is not easy to find. I've never been able to give the term an adequate translation into English but maybe Moritz can help. I'm discovering what is kind of the French equivalent of Schlager (they use the term "Ye-Ye" which is equally untranslateable) at a feverish rate as there is a massive amount of reissue material coming out which we find everywhere here in Montreal. Looks like the presure is now on us! I think Moritz wrote this: > I think good film music never illustrates a movie 1 to 1; it rather adds >the things that you cannot see, sometimes to an extend that it literally >becomes the opposite of what you see. I've had similar discusssions with both Nat & Moritz on the role of soundtracks within films and we all had differing opinions somehow. I still feel many soundtracks stand up by themselves alone and just the same, many films stand away from their soundtracks. But sometimes they just click! Nat mentions biker films but what better marriage of film and music but Peter Fonda on his chopper with Born to be Wild playing in the Background in Easy Rider! Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:01:28 -0500 From: Subject: (exotica) Scores Du Jour... On my lunch break, I got: William Holden presents "Far Away Places" by Warren Barker (of 77 Sunset Strip Fame) on Warner Brothers Jacques Dutronc...no title, but it could be questionable, as he looks like Iggy Pop smoking a cigar...Is this just one of those CDS where the pic is bad, but the music is good? You can answer me off list, as I get the digests! Jane "happy ears" Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:03:33 -0800 From: Ron Grandia Subject: Re: (exotica) made to order- Thinkmatic@aol.com wrote: > > > Have no fear, the time is here! > > With the mention of Mp3's earlier last week, > > this is what we can and will do, I have been wondering if CD player manufacturers could build in MP3 support so a body could conceivably have a 300-track mp3 CD or conventiononal one run on in the same box. I can't imagine the music industry beig the LEAST bit interested in such a feature. One thing to keep in mind - There is fidelity loss with compression, however minute. Speaking of exotica made to order, let me remind you all that Johan DaDa Vis's FANTASTICA #5 in a highly compressed MP3 format is still available for download/streaming at http://www.xtabay.com It's one of my favorites - it's cut together with some Stan Freeberg bits and WILD ASS piano along with other musical bisquits that will make you jump for joy! I have no idea if the stream works with anything but Microsoft Netshow, but theoretically should stream to Winamp as well. Mac users will have to save the stream and play it with Macamp or Quicktime AFTER it has Dl'ed. It's a one-hour program and takes about as long to DL with a 28.8 modem. If this is something people are interested in, I will continue to post things on the site for your enjoyment. Ron > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:11:08 -0600 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) one way to spent y2k new year's by ENS/ Steve Hochman The Y2K doomsayers are warning people not to fly next New Year's Eve, lest airline computer controls fail due to the millennium bug. But a concert promoter is hoping to coax an international roster of pop stars into chartered 747s over the South Pacific. The idea: Hold a celebratory festival in New Zealand, which will be one of the first places on Earth to greet the year 2000, and then head for Hawaii in time to do it all over again. The plan is to have two linked events in each locale -- a concert featuring major pop acts and native New Zealand and Hawaiian artists, and a special edition of the Warped tour, the annual youth-skewed trek featuring punk and ska bands with an extreme sports theme. The former is being organized by Michael Chugg, head of Australian booking agency Frontier, to be held on a plot of sacred land owned by the Maori tribe overlooking Auckland Harbor. ``The idea is to have one big act on at midnight, and another on at 5:20 a.m., which will be first light, coinciding with a flotilla of ships coming through the harbor,'' says Chugg. ``And then we'd throw everyone on a plane and go to Hawaii and do it again.'' Chugg says he's in negotiation with several artists, but he won't say who. One focus of speculation, though, has been Sting -- an artist with global appeal and an interest in the tribal culture and spiritual elements meant to be underscored in this event. Sting's publicist, Kathy Schenker, says that the singer, currently working on a new album, has expressed an interest in staying home with his family at New Year. Schenker says she has no knowledge of an offer for the Pacific events. Warped organizer Kevin Lyman has been approached by Chugg and is considering the prospect. The tour usually heads down under that time of year anyway. ``Everyone's trying to talk me out of it, worried about the airlines,'' says Lyman. ``But I was very high on the idea. It was a grueling tour this year, though, and adding something like that might be too much. So I'm not sure what I'll do at this time.'' (c) 1999, Steve Hochman Distributed by Los Angeles Times Syndicate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:23:12 -0500 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Desco/Wagram Records At 5:27 PM -0500 2/23/99, telstar wrote: >Can anyone provide reviews for any of these reissues released by Desco >Records/Disques Wagram: "The Other Side", "The Daktaris", "Sugarman Three", >"Nino Nardini & the Pop Riviera Group", "The Revenge of Mister Mopoji" >(soundtrack) or "Junior Jet Set" ?? They aren't reissues..........they're new recordings trying to look and sound like old records. Most of the material is in the funk and groove styles. The Sugarman 3 perform regularly in New York City, and have been playing a number of festivals in Europe over the last few months (especially in Italy and England). Check 'em out if they come to your town. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:48:06 -0500 From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG" Subject: (exotica) Sheet Music Anybody on the list know of a decent (or indecent) legit fake book for all the exotica and loungesque tunes we love? My old piano teacher used to call some of these songs "standards". I wonder if anyone (on or off list) has put together a decent compilation of sheet music from this era. I have only a few sheets of old Sinatra and some 40's swings stuff. Its all the slow songs though. I would be willing to trade copies of out-of-print stuff.... Br. Cleve, got any leads? Any other musicians out there? I was going to call the Colony in NYC, but I would need a title first, o'course. Maybe a script for Denny's Exotica album was printed at one time??? I wish I knew a retired lounge organist....who liked Lenny Dee. Or has somebody made a fake book....?(wink, wink...nudge, nudge) Please mail me off list....thanx. surfing the chaos, Charlieman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:21:38 -0500 From: "Brian Tozer" Subject: (exotica) UL Bonus Tracks Ok, I give up!! What/Who are those undocumented "Track 19's" on the latter Ultra Lounge CD's? Brian Tozer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:01:12 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sheet Music >Anybody on the list know of a decent (or indecent) legit fake book for all >the exotica and loungesque tunes we love? I've thought of asking that very question for a while now. I can report the "The Hal Leonard Real Jazz Book" and "The Ultimate Jazz Fakebook" (also from Hal Leonard Corp.) both include pretty good helpings of exotica/ space-age/ now-sound standards. I guess they should hit a decent amount purely statistically, with 1125+ songs between the two of them. No duplication between the books (they say). I only have the "Real Jazz" volume, which among many gems includes "Caravan", with the complete original lyrics. Hey -- I just noticed "Wives & Lovers" is in here! A dozen Jobim tunes too. And "Mission Impossible". And many more... But no "Quiet Village". If anyone knows of a book that's really heavy on the list-centric material, I'd like to hear about it too. Thanks. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #331 *****************************