From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #655 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, March 17 2000 Volume 02 : Number 655 In This Digest: (exotica) Monkey Music (exotica) skiffle Re: (exotica) Skiffle (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type anecdote) Re: (exotica) Skiffle (exotica) Calling All Girl Bands (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks Re: re: (exotica) Skiffle (exotica) Quickpace Re: (exotica) New Arrivals #87 Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Re: (exotica) Monkey Music (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica (exotica) Baxter Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis RE: (exotica) Baxter Re: (exotica) skiffle (exotica) [obits] Fred Kelly, Ron Watson (exotica) Re: Find These Records! (exotica) Oh Yeah (exotica) Sat. in SF (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 19 (exotica) Diana Dors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:25:15 +0100 From: Ton Rueckert Subject: (exotica) Monkey Music The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian): A drinking rant by David Bowman http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're Irish. *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:41:21 -0000 From: Reader Geoff Subject: (exotica) skiffle One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made music. Very cheap, you would need a(n accoustic) guitar, but the rest of the instruments could be cobbled together from scrap. Tea chest bass (a tea chest, with a broomhandle stuck in the top, bit of string - presto! bass), percussion can be found anywhere. My mother claims she had a skiffle group in her office, she played the toothed ratchet out of an old filing cabinet (a washboard substitute I suppose). I think Lonnie Donegan was probably the creative peak though, it also gave rise to other excrescence's like Richard Stilgoe (UK TV 'personality'). I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US rockabilly at the same time. El Maestro Con Queso djcheesemaster@yahoo.com grr@brighton.ac.uk http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:44:13 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle > >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it > >came from and where it went? > > late 50's Brit Shit. Spare answer, Jimmy! In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very popular and successful music style to do yourself. There must have been thousands of amateur Skiffle bands in Germany during the 50s to the 70s. They consisted of at least 5 members, often more, often wearing bowler hats, funny bow-ties and mustaches. They used all kinds of brass instruments, like clarinet, trombone and tuba, completed by such "funny" things as washing boards or zoot-horns. A banjo is another must in a Skiffle combo, sometimes someone even sings, but beware! The music is always in a let's-have-a-hell-of-a-good time-mood, all instruments seem to play at the same time, but not neccessarily together, at least it sounded to me like that, when I was a child. One of the bands I remember, who were quite popular in the early 70s, was Mr.Acker Bilk's Jazzband, I have no idea where they were from. Among the songs a Skiffle combo *had* to play were "Ice Cream - You Scream" and "When The Saints..." Until the early 80s you couldn't escape a German talk-show without a Skiffle intermezzo. Somehow Skiffle even took over main stream in Germany in the early 70s, at least in TV: It initiated the Jazz boom of the 70s. If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like in my life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. Today I suspect I might have to admit that I even like a few pieces. It is this blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it, but suddenly I think it's funny. But now these bands have disappeared. Marco mentioned the Beatles connection with Skiffle: As hard as this is to believe, you can hear elements of the music in some British Rock music of the 60s, for instance in tracks by the Small Faces: "The Universal" b/w "Donkey Rides A Penny A Throw", one of their best Singles. Or if you know The Herd: their "I Don't Want Our Lovin' To Die" starts with a highly surprising "Jazz" intro. Or think of "Groovin' With Mr.Bloe" or The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band... Oh, and this funny LP "by" Twiggy & the Girlfriends, I bought from Stefan Kery in Stockholm. The first two songs on each side are easy Pop tunes actually sung by Twiggy, but the rest of the tracks are pure Skiffle, that have nothing whatsoever to do with Twiggy. You buy Twiggy and you get 2/3rds of a Skiffle record, which now is the only one in my collection. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:50:36 +0000 From: Robbie Baldock Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web! Well, thanks to Swank Radio I discovered the new streaming internet radio service Live365 the other day and have in fact just uploaded one of the shows from my recent broadcast on local radio station Fresh Air FM. So, if you want to hear me in action, go to: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi and do a search for "moon base alpha". I may well transfer the rest of the shows up to the site and I'm also hoping to put playlists up on my site for anyone who's wondering what the music is... Robbie (DJ Bongo Boy) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Moon Base Alpha - to Hi-Fidelity and Beyond! http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/space/ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:56:12 EST From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis Thanks for the info, BJ, but to clarify, the specific version heard on the "Sounds For Little Ones" CD is what I - and I assume Keith - are after. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:56:39 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music Ton Rueckert wrote: > The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in > a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian): > > A drinking rant by David Bowman > > http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html > > A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're > Irish. No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke, that's no rumor, it's true. The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the table deep as hell like never before -and never again - in my life, was in Hungary. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:04:27 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type anecdote) At 09:05 AM 3/17/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote: > >At 04:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, you wrote: > >> > TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for >> >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a >> >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88. > >This is a sad loss, but here is an interesting (well, to ME) sidelight: > >Rocky and Bullwinkle had an episode arc, Missouri Mish Mash which featured >Boris Badenuv looking for the Kirward Derby, a hat that makes the wearer >the smartest man in the world. I don't know whether Kirby hated the show, >or whether he had heard enough jokes about his name, but Kirby sued over this! I think that story does sort of qualify as exotica content. And so do my memories of Durwood. In the larger sense of exotica anyway... I don't remember when I first saw Mr.Kirby but Gary Moore (not the Thin Lizzy guy either) is one of my earliest TV memories. I try to explain this to "kids" these days, what it was like NOT to grow up with television. I think we probably did have a TV when I was born or shortly thereafter but somehow it took me a while to figure out what the f**k it was all about. I remember the period when programming didn't begin till 6 p.m. and how one of the Buffalo stations, at a certain point, would just point the camera at the clock and you'd watch the time move towards 6 and the start of programming. But mostly I just remember these hazy jumpy dull images, like some bad transmission from outer space in an old sci-fi movie. These people were talking and I couldn't figure out what they were doing there or what they were talking about. And even when I did sort of get used to it and start to take it for granted, I still had many many questions. I didn't know what was funny about stuff that was supposed to be funny. And a lot of the time the question was "How does THIS particular person get to be on TV?" Gary Moore seemed so boring to me and Durwood seemed like the only human on the planet boring enough to be "below" Gary. And his name probably contributed to that feeling. And it's interesting to hear that he was satirized on Rocky and Bullwinkle since, even though I don't think I understood all the references, that was the first thing I saw as a kid that seemed to be making fun of things that also "intrigued" me. All those square-jawed heroes. From game show hosts to men on white horses. I didn't "get" them. They seemed too stiff to be stars or heroes. Even when I got much much older, I was always scratching my head about the very concept of the "announcer" or the "sidekick". They were just so "white". Somehow the tradition of the announcer, obviously dating back to radio, reminds me of the music we call "exotica". And "lounge" too, I guess. It's like they were both created in the same "show biz tradition" that confused me as a child and fascinates me now. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:04:29 -0500 From: Nat Kone Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle At 03:44 PM 3/17/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote: > > Skiffle is the European equivalent of >Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very >popular and successful music style to do yourself. >If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like in my >life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. . It is this >blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it, This reminds me... When I was making my film, I met a lot of the "hot jazz" collectors. (They don't really like the term "Dixieland" and when I mentioned striped shirts, suspenders and those hats, they started to get very angry.) This is not particularly relevant but it seems like the majority of 78 collectors are "hot jazz" collectors. Sort of makes sense if you think about the music that was released in the 78 period. It's also not relevant but these collectors are probably the most organized group of collectors I met. Can you imagine all of us getting together in a hotel for a convention where we present "papers" for each other? (You really have to know these guys and their psychology but I went to one such convention where a guy apologized profusely for his presentation because it was about Charlie Parker. He had "illegally" taped a performance of Parker's at a Montreal radio station and his amateur recording was now being released. But "hot jazz" guys hate bebop and Parker is the Devil incarnate so they were miffed.) Anyway... When these guys used to argue for their style of jazz, they would often say that "jazz is party music". It's fun, it's energetic, it's happy, it makes you want to dance. Whereas the jazz that I like is dark and somber and even a bit intellectual. And when they would say that it was "party music", I would say "Exactly. That's what I don't like about it". I guess there have been anomalies over the years - and my continuing obsession with soft pop is certainly one of them - but most of the music I've loved for most of my life has been sad, even dreary, even depressing. "Here's a recording that a guy made on heroin, in his room, the night before he killed himself". My heart starts to race with excitement at that idea. (That was supposedly this case of one of the cuts on Peter Laughner's record with the words "Guitar Player" in the title.) I generally don't like happy music or party music. I hate "Hot hot hot". I hate polka but that might be for other reasons too. I guess over the years, I've enjoyed some rock n roll that could be called "party music" but the idea of a band all smiling and saying "Come on, let's have a good time" makes me want to reach for a downer. It's probably the reason I couldn't get into the swing revival. "This is like lounge but it's party music". "Yeah, that's why I hate it". Is this because I'm a depressed guy who likes depressing music? Maybe. But then again, people say that you listen to the blues to stop the blues. Anyway, what little skiffle I've heard - thank G*d - also gave me the same skin-crawling feeling. "Ooh look at them all having a good time. Doesn't it make you want to die?" It also strikes me that I couldn't get into skiffle for the same reason I couldn't get into Chuck Berry. Or Bo Diddley, even though there is this one early thing of him on film where he reminds me a bit of Question Mark and the Mysterians. Let's party. Let's not. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:17:36 -0500 From: mimim@texas.net (Mimi Mayer) Subject: (exotica) Calling All Girl Bands Posted here cuz you never know who's lurking. Please pass along. Mimi *** just thought i'd pass this along for my friend, love. she's interested in starting a site that showcases girl bands. if you're interested in contacting love, her email addy is love@hellfire.com. thanks! ****(snip)**** Hey y'all, I was wonderin' if you know of any girl bands who have some demos available? I'm starting a new web site called SHE-BOP.NET (audio revolution, grrrl style now!) where I want to feature interviews with girl or girl-fronted bands and release their MP3s. Know anyone who would be interested? I'm gonna set up some kind of commission thing, which will start real low, but maybe will get higher. Based on number of MP3s we can use and whatever revenue we get from advertising. I could also use some writers who want to babble on about audio ("how to", "which equipment to buy" , etc.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:28:43 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks "una lucertola con la pelle di donna": Boring, dark, noisy, without melody, except for the heavenly title track, which is featured on "Mondo Morricone". Three other tracks are not bad either, but all in all not worth its price, in my (melody-loving) opinion. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:27:11 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: re: (exotica) Skiffle In a message dated 3/17/0 4:02:54 AM, weirdomusic@wxs.nl wrote: > late 50's Brit Shit.. > Why shit? It rhymes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:39:45 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Quickpace Anyone know anything about this Spacepop group known as Quickpace?..Thanks. JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:23:13 -0500 From: "telstar" Subject: Re: (exotica) New Arrivals #87 Lou queried: > >JANDEK "Later On" (Corwood Industries) cd 8.98 I haven't heard this release, but I have heard several of his other records which could best be described as inter-dimensional blues for shut-ins. As you can imagine, Jandek's music is something of an acquired taste. Allan ++++Unusual Music+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Mondo Bongos" Wednesdays 9 - 10 am on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph, Ontario, Canada +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Unusual Music++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:33:06 +0100 From: Ton Rueckert Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music >No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke, that's no >rumor, it's true. True indeed. Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski, which is the route of the drunken train, where the conductor punishes fare dodgers with 10cc of vodka per kilometer, to be consumated immediately, passengers exchange recipes derived from such exotic ingredients as white spirit, meths, shampoos and lotions, and indulge in philosophies about the abysmal Russian epidemic of drunkennesss (not unlike Nat on collecting, now that I think of it). >The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the >table deep as hell like never before -and never again - in my life, was in >Hungary. I was never drunk under the table, at the very most drunk in bed or on the toilet. Most amazing was drunk on a bike, my mind was crystalclear (white magic in terms of Erofeev) and I just couldn't figure out why I hit the wall every ten meters. In hindsight it must have been that last shot of brandy. Cheers, Ton *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton Rueckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:09:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music This is a must read- should be in the canon of alcoholic lit. In English as Moscow Circles. > Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt > Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski, Under the table... one weekend evevning when I was 17, a friend and I, having access to neither drugs nor legitimate alcohol, took shots of a clear moonshine his girlfriend's grandmother made and attempted to flavor with strawberry's (it turned them white, like vipers heads, and tasted like something that should only be found in hospitals, or garages). At about three in the morning I woke to find (painfully) that I had been stashed under a shrouded ping pong table. Sure that my parents and the heat were looking for me, I struggled out of the house and into the car. I came to about an hour later, still dressed, still in the car, my Dad shaking and cursing me. In my REM career into the driveway, I had apparently run into his car with a fair degree of force. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:23:18 -0800 (PST) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica Joseph Lanza, author of "Elevator Music" chose the tunes for an exotica compilation on Time LIfe. The comp was generally straight ahead exotica. I remember Vic of Victrola's Lounge commenting on how ingenious Lanza's selection of "Let's Go Away for Awhile" was and how well it blends with the othet songs on this cd (whose name escapes me) I have this cd and the song fits with Martin Denny and yhe other exotic cuts on it. On the Beach Boy's Friends album there is a cut called "Diamond Head" that is also quite exotic in a Hawaiin way. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck - --- LTepedino@aol.com wrote: > Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away > For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of > exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family > tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people > completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet > Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that, > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:37:07 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Baxter Hey all, I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846. It says Les Baxter as the artist on the spine. Can anyone tell me where this falls in the Les-xicon? Thanks, Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:01:29 -0500 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis SLarry3595@aol.com wrote: > I've got so many great recordings of that song. It's one of those hard to lose tunes, if it's on an LP it's usually cool no matter who arranged it. But here's a vocal version I bet ou haven't heard! http://63.249.213.190/realaudio/songs/freedman-elephant.ram After hearing it, see if you modify your assertion. - -Lou lousmith@pipeline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:08:28 -0800 From: Erik Hoel Subject: RE: (exotica) Baxter I believe it was issued in 1963 (maybe I am misinterpreting "Les-xicon"). Erik > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Risser [mailto:knucklehead000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 2:37 PM > To: exotica@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (exotica) Baxter > > Hey all, > > I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's > Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846. It says Les > Baxter as the artist on the spine. Can anyone tell me > where this falls in the Les-xicon? > > Thanks, > Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:16:30 -0500 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) skiffle Reader Geoff wrote: > One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made music.I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US rockabilly at the same time. El Maestro Con Queso - ------- Hmmm, I was under the impression that Skiffle was more polite and earnest than rockabilly -- possibly closer to hootenanny folk. Van Morrison's latest is a live skiffle date. Here's allmusic.com's review (which may shed some light): For many rock fans, especially those raised in the post-Beatles years, skiffle is something that exists solely in history books. It's not because the music made only a marginal impact in the U.S. -- its only real hit was Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line," a Top Ten hit in 1956 -- since it truly did transform British pop culture. Skiffle faded into the books because it really was tied to its time, an enthusiastic expression of a newfound love of American folk, blues, and jazz. In a sense, skiffle was the punk rock of its time -- Donegan's jubilant reinterpretations of traditional American songs convinced a whole generation of British teenagers that they too could pick up a guitar and play. And they did, scores of them, bashing out rudimentary chords and scraping rhythms on a washboard. Skiffle inspired them to dig deeper into blues, plus translate their love of performing to rock & roll bands. Once the '50s became the '60s, skiffle was jettisoned, much like how the space shuttle casts off its fuel tank, as British teenagers focused on blues and rock & roll. After the Beatles blasted the preconceptions of what British rock could be, skiffle was assigned a mythological status as one of the roots of rock. Unlike other rock roots, very few people regarded skiffle highly, possibly because it was a bit of a revivalist hybrid in the first place, but more likely because it seemed like a provincial, antiquated curiosity to most rock writers. So, skiffle faded from popular consciousness, known only to pop fanatics with a sense of history and British baby boomers. In fact, most of those pop fanatics would likely only know skiffle from clips on television documentaries, and then they'll only know "Rock Island Line." All this means that Van Morrison, Lonnie Donegan, and Chris Barber's The Skiffle Sessions is the first time this music has been presented to a wide audience in decades. Morrison probably chose to give a pair of skiffle concerts in November, 1998 with two of his childhood idols not just because he was nostalgic, but because he has genuine love for this music. At least, that's the impression The Skiffle Sessions gives. It's a cheerfully old-fashioned yet curiously fresh album, due to the inspired, loving performances. The trio wisely avoids "Rock Island Line," even though that's the tune that made skiffle and Donegan's name. It would have overshadowed the music itself; although it's a classic, it's also a cliché. By skipping over the style's best-known tune and emphasizing the music's foundation of American folk, blues, and jazz traditions, they wind up revitalizing skiffle while paying homage to it. Yes, this certainly isn't contemporary, and it may even seem corny to modern listeners, but this is a deceptively clever record. The trio actually emphasize the eclecticism of skiffle, delving into the blues here and there, letting Barber have a Dixieland trombone solo on "Frankie and Johnny," inviting Dr. John to play some New Orleans on "Goin' Home" and "Good Morning Blues," and hauling out Jimmie Rodgers' "Muleskinner Blues" and Leadbelly's "Goodnight Irene," paying tribute to both country and folk. It's certainly not a one-note album -- only "Don't You Rock Me Daddio" fits the clichés of skiffle, and here it's only one side of a rich, generous collection of roots music. Some might say that this multifaceted approach to skiffle is revisionism, but it isn't; skiffle itself was a hybrid, drawing from all sorts of American roots music, but given an endearing twist by idealist British musicians, who loved the American myth as much as the music. To its credit, The Skiffle Sessions captures this love of myth and music, while being a hell of a good listen. Morrison's career has been idiosyncratic and unpredictable, even while staying within the basic blues and folk idiom, but nothing has been quite as surprising as this. Really, there's no reason why a skiffle album released in 2000 should be as irresistible as this, but Morrison, Donegan, and Barber bring such heart and love to this music that it's hard not to be charmed by The Skiffle Sessions. -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:40:24 -0500 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obits] Fred Kelly, Ron Watson TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Fred Kelly, a three-time Tony Award winner and dance instructor who taught his older brother, Gene Kelly, how to tap dance, died of cancer Wednesday. He was 83. Fred Kelly also taught Queen Elizabeth how to dance and showed John Travolta how to strut. Kelly's son, Michael, said his father's first priority was pleasing people. ``My dad was involved in every civic, charitable and religious organization,'' Kelly said. ``He made time for everyone. People were his hobby. He didn't golf, he didn't bowl, he entertained.'' Kelly was born in Pittsburgh in 1916. He and his siblings learned to dance at an early age so they could help teach classes in their mother's dance studio. He earned money by performing in talent shows during the Depression. In 1940, Kelly won three Tony awards for his lead performance in ``Time of Your Life.'' Even after Kelly entered the military during World War II, he didn't stray far from the dance floor. He was called to Buckingham Palace in 1944 to teach Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret to dance. ``In the 1950s, my brother Gene was at the palace for a command screening of 'An American in Paris','' Kelly said in a 1996 interview. ``Gene's going through the reception line and Queen Elizabeth comes running up to him and says, 'Oh, Mr. Kelly, is it true you're the brother of Fred Kelly?''' Fred and Gene Kelly appeared together on film only once: In the 1955 ``Deep in my Heart,'' they performed ``I Love to Go Swimmen with Women.'' In additional to Michael, Kelly is survived by a daughter, two sisters and eight grandchildren. A Mass was scheduled for March 25 at St. Pius X Church in Tucson. - ------- MARCH 17, 11:08 EST New Zealand Magician Dies During Act HAMILTON, New Zealand (AP) An audience of hospital patients applauded when a magician collapsed and died during a show, thinking it was part of his act, his family said Friday. Ron Watson, known as Uncle Ron the Magician, was trying to cheer up stroke victims in the Tokoroa Hospital, including his wife Sheila, when he fell to the ground minutes into his act. The audience thought the collapse was part of it, except his wife, who tried to get up to help him, despite being partly paralyzed. ``Everyone thought it was part of the act, but of course she knew it wasn't,'' said his son, John Watson. Doctors spent 45 minutes trying to revive Watson, 69, without success. John Watson said his father died doing what he loved. His magician idols had been escape artist Houdini and Englishman Tommy Cooper, who also died while performing. Watson was a former member of England's Bognor Regis Magic Circle and gave performances for charity since he retired 15 years ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:04:28 -0500 From: Peter Ledebur Subject: (exotica) Re: Find These Records! Zach_Douglas@Dell.com writes: >My roomate told me his parents had a Barbara Streisand >record in which she sang Bowie's "Life on Mars" (Hunky Dory). >Does anybody know which album this is on It's on Butter Fly, the only album of hers I own. I thrifted it years ago for that very song. Worth having, but don't shell out too much for it, it's not *that* amusing. Peter - ---- Music for Better Living Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3fm Newton/Boston http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 17:34:28 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah I also picked up a mint condition record by Luke Leilani and His Royal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Paradise. It's all no-name Hawaiian songs on the COronet label. Is this one of those re-issues that pumps the same surf-based tunes into different packages? Just wondering. It sure *looks* nice. Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:57:27 -0800 From: "Otto" Subject: (exotica) Sat. in SF also tomorrow night (Sat) Big benefit for H.E.A.R. (hearing education & awareness for rockers) Featuring the ultra-futuro sound of Thirty First Century Lounge Music; rare SF appearance. MC is Dirk Dirksen of Mabuhay Gardens fame. Plus tons of DJs.... 3/18/00 7:30 111 Minna Street Gallery Aloha Otto otto@tikinews.com www.tikinews.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to majordomo@slick.org and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the subject). For web-based help, go to: http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:05:25 -0500 From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 19 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #87 "FSUK" Sounds like something obscene, but it really stands for "The Future Sound of the United Kindgom" - a label with 4 - 2CD compilations to its credit, each mixed by a different person (or group), juxtaposing new breakbeats with old sounds - everything from Jefferson Airplane to Fatboy Slim. Here's a sample of what to expect... Moog: Mastermind "FSUK 3" Primordial Soup: Light 'Em Up Scratch 'Em Up "FSUK 3" Cut La Roc: New York Pimp "FSUK 3" Skeewiff featuring Michel Legrand: Come Ray And Come Charles "FSUK 4" Jadell: Can You Hear Me "FSUK 4" Bootsy Collins Party Lick-A Ble's: Norman Cook Club Mix "FSUK 4" Fatboy Slim: Sho Nuff "FSUK 4" Sons Of Silence: Bobby Dazzler "FSUK 3" E.T.A.: Casual Sub (Rennie Pilgrim and 33/45 Mix) "FSUK 1" Outcast: Criminals "FSUK 4" Pressure Drop: Beyond Reason "FSUK 1" The Wiseguys: Ooh La La (Full Length) "FSUK 2" Krafty Kuts: Super Family Dope "FSUK 2" Pigmeat Markham: Here Come The Judge "FSUK 3" Thanks for reading. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:17:01 -0800 From: Jim Gerwitz Subject: (exotica) Diana Dors <<<<,Diana Dors was the "British Marilyn Monroe" and her album "Swingin' Dors" (Columbia CL 1436) is considered quite collectable. At least, I've seen copies go for upwards of $200(!). It's a pretty good album, too, and the source for the tunes on the various CD comps.>>>> "Swingin Dors" was a holy grail of mine after i heard "Rollercoaster Blues" on the blonde sex kitten comp. And I "only" paid $35 at the KUSF record swap some years back - the cover is great but the other material doesn't quite match the cunning jaw-dropping lyrics of Rollercoaster. I no longer put anything in "holy grail" status, although Yvette Mimieux reading Beaudelaire(or was it Rimbaud?) backed by Ali Akbar Khan is atop my want list. Saw it my first day on eBay last fall and lost it cuz i didn't know the bidding tricks and haven't seen it since. Oh well, eBay giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a sawbuck this past week.... JB Le Noir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #655 *****************************