From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #698 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, April 25 2000 Volume 02 : Number 698 In This Digest: (exotica) Playlist from awhile ago Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon Re: (exotica) sounds galactic (exotica) whole Lalo bidding Re: (exotica) Georges Montalba Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon Re: (exotica) sounds galactic Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon (exotica) Scanners Again (exotica) the moog artilce in salon Re: (exotica) Scanners Again RE: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding Re: (exotica) whole Lalo Scifrin bidding Re: (exotica) whole Lalo Scifrin bidding Re: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding (exotica) More on audio components (exotica) Third Wave Concert Uke, Tiki Deluxe Model Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon (exotica) Yanni, meet Kenny (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour (exotica) deadsville Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon (exotica) Heavenly Bodies vs Outer Space-The Encounter Re: (exotica) More on audio components Re: (exotica) More on audio components Re: (exotica) deadsville Re: (exotica) More on audio components Re: (exotica) More on audio components (exotica) Les Djinns Singers Re: (exotica) Les Djinns Singers Re: (exotica) More on audio components (exotica) Dennis Coffey (exotica) Thorens (exotica) Page Cavanaugh and the woes of "digital remastering" (exotica) Raymond Scott update 5/00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:00:02 -0700 From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) Playlist from awhile ago http://www.spies.com/misc/kfjc/md/pl/12-18-96/diamond.Dec.15.12.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:13:23 -0700 From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon Peter Gingerich wrote: > > Picked up the book "Widening the Horizon(Exoticism in Post-War Popular > Music)" mentioned, oh, a few hundred e-mails back last friday. Its pretty > academic, no pictures, some written-out musical examples, so far the > chapters are pretty interesting: > Anyways it goes on the bookshelf along with 'Ultra Lounge', 'Elevator > Music', 'Exotica', 'Forever Lounge', 'MusicHound Guide to Lounge', "ISM > I&II'....am I missing anything there? The book "Exotiquarium" covers much of the same ground but is much more graphically appealing. It actually also has some tidbits of coverage the others miss, so I'd go for that one too. Kevin Crossman - -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:39:19 +0100 From: Subject: Re: (exotica) sounds galactic I know its probably redundant and vaguely pinickity but John Keating generally uses a VCS3 (also called the Pitney, I think) - a British synth made by EMS, 'The World's Longest Established Synthesizer Manufacturer' (www.ems-synthi.demon.co.uk). It veers dramatically from a very thick farty-like sound to an overly cheesy nasal whine which often grates on the ears on recordings by Paddy Hopkirk and John Keating. It is in full effect on Space Experience though. The synth has a joystick and lots of plastic pegs which you stick into a patch-type matrix to create your sounds. I would kill for one! Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:45:03 -0400 From: Nat Kone Subject: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding Someone here should go bid on this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=313166463 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:31:36 -0400 From: Mark Renwick Subject: Re: (exotica) Georges Montalba Interesting! I hadn't heard the Anton LaVey legend until this thread. LaVey WAS a theatre organist in the San Francisco area at one time. My source concerning George Montalba/Bob Hunter is an old issue of Theatre Organ magazine. For many years, there was a running gag in the magazine. Some organist would pose at the console of a Mighty Wurlitzer wearing a gorilla costume and the caption would say, "George Montalba entertains!" I guess the record in question doesn't mention Nice, France. But some of the other Montalba records do. - --Mark Renwick Jacksonville, Florida, USA tibia@att.net http://home.att.net/~tibia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:41:07 +0200 From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon =20 >Picked up the book "Widening the Horizon(Exoticism in Post-War Popular >Music)" mentioned, oh, a few hundred e-mails back last friday. Its pretty >academic, no pictures, some written-out musical examples, so far the >chapters are pretty interesting: > >Intro: The Cocktail Shift: Aligning Musical Exotica >1. Korla Pandit and Musical Indianism >2. Utopias of the Tropics: The Exotic Music of Les Baxter and Yma Sumac >3. Martin Denny and the Development of Musical Exotica >4. Tropical Cool: The Arthur Lyman Sound >5. Soy Sauce Music: Haruomi Hosono and Japanese Self-Orientalism >6. Musical Transport: Van Dyke Parks, Americana and the applied Orientalism >of 'Tokyo Rose'. >7. The Yanni Phenomenon =20 Now Yanni, why is he there with all the others? Saw him on a Dutch talkshow a year or so ago, with Linda Evans, his=20 wife or lover, whatever, I don't want to know, where he did a couple of tunes, and I thought it was beyond appalling, wasn't long till I stoically turned of the TV set, went for a walk and pretended that=20 it never happened. Cheers, Ton PS This weeks Brilliant Careers in Salon features Robert Moog: http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2000/04/25/moog/index.html *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914 RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto Ph 31/0 773545386 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:52:05 +0100 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) sounds galactic Talking of Moogs, Robert Moog himself: http://www.salon.com/people/bc/2000/04/25/moog/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:04:26 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon >Now Yanni, why is he there with all the others? Well, like him or dislike him, he is very popular (and if "Shaddup You Face" by Joe Dolce can be a hit, don't ask me why Yanni is such hot stuff). Had this been written about 13 years ago, perhaps they would have been talking about Andreas Vollenweider or Kitaro, perhaps. Also, according to the Internet Movie Database, Yanni and Evans are not dating anymore, so you can all watch "Beach Blanket Bingo" in peace. Yes you Kane Kane, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:07:49 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: (exotica) Scanners Again Does nobody have any suggestions or recommendations onwhat to look for with a scanner? Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:11:39 -0500 From: "Robert Blahut, Jr." Subject: (exotica) the moog artilce in salon the article in salon mentions the buchla syn. - - i have played one of these. - - a man who used to live down the street from me has one. when he lived down the street he lived on a 2d story walk up and he had to, when he first got the buchla, hoist it through the bay window because it was never going to fit through the hallway and door to his apartment. he has since moved and the buchla came out of the apartment the same way and is set up in his home studio i tried to call him the other day but i only was able to leave a message. it is my understanding that he is makeing electronic effects pedals and having some success with them but i don't remember the name he is selling them under. robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:15:35 EDT From: BasicHip@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Scanners Again << Does nobody have any suggestions or recommendations onwhat to look for with a scanner? >> Nothing in the way of brand names and such but I do recall your saying that you wanted to scan in two steps rather than four. Meaning you wanted a scanning area greater than 11 inches. Legal size instead of letter, correct? Even with the standard scanning area, you should be able to capture the cover in two passes. Granted, you'll lose about a half inch or so from the top and bottom. But nobody will notice. I've scanned hundreds of LPs and have yet to have anybody point out that the finished image was cropped :) Try the two step method and don't sweat it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:46:53 -0500 From: "Indy Rutks" Subject: RE: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding Nat Kone wrote: > Someone here should go bid on this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=313166463 > For more Lalo, check out: http://www.letitbe.com/auction/item_index.cgi There are 4 LPs up for grabs: "Between Broadway And Hollywood"; "Gypsies"; "No One Home"; and "Towering Toccata". - -Indy Rutks (rutks002@tc.umn.edu) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:48:07 GMT From: "james brouwer" Subject: Re: (exotica) whole Lalo Scifrin bidding Nat Kone wrote >Someone here should go bid on this: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=313166463 I second the suggestion. It's a sterling album with an odd, and usually successful, variety of styles. Has about 4-5 good or really good pieces, which is better than some of his actual soundtracks. just my opinion... JBrouwer ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:57:35 +0100 From: Subject: Re: (exotica) whole Lalo Scifrin bidding I personally wouldn't bid on it. I'd go $10 for a mint copy of this one. Quite a boring selection of average tracks, the standout being 'Secret Code' - a crime jazz type track which sounds like his better soundtrack work. This is another of those LPs that sit on the shelf, rarely being played. More Mission Impossible - now there's a Lalo record worth having. Mannix? Yep. Bullitt? Yep. Cool Hand Luke? So So. Theres a Whole Lalo Going On? Also So So. Charlie +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message may contain confidential and/or privileged | | information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to | | receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, | | disclose or take any action based on this message or any | | information herein. If you have received this message in | | error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail | | and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:24:43 +0100 From: "ark edgar" Subject: Re: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding Nat Kone ( bruno@yhammer.com ) Wrote >Subject: (exotica) whole Lalo bidding > > Someone here should go bid on this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=313166463 > > Nice one Nat They certainly should, this is a truly fantastic LP, my personal favorite is a tune called dissolving, The LP also has a track calle d Vaccinated Mushrooms, mmmmm very trippy Regards Ronnie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:48:25 -0400 From: "Brian Karasick" Subject: (exotica) More on audio components > Your friends list was all top but expensive stuff --- however, I feel that > paying the kind of money he mentioned for speaker cables, and system > interconnect cables is insane!!!! The three dollar ones at radio shack > suck and should not be used, but there are plenty that work great for less > than the price he mentioned. I too know an audio fanatic and and I found it strange how many of them are more interested in the sound than the music they play. Ever wondered why most audiophile recordings are much better sonically than musically.... Still, we've gone through the same debate over the years and have been fortunate to assemble a bunch of better than average equipment cheaply. It's more and more difficult to find that much in this range anymore and the market is moving more and more to the extremes at either end. If I had to do it all over again it would not be easy. One brand I see floating around is NAD which at a reasonable premium above the basic is not bad at all. They seem to make everything which isn't always a good sign. Mission is another good performer as is Creek, maker of my components, though I don't think they exist anymore. The (native) food in the UK may be bad but they have a fine array of more reasonably priced, decent quality and good performing stereo manufacturers, much of which is available here in North America. > One thing you can do (relatively) cheaply, pick up a decent cart, > such as a Grado Red ($110), assuming that you table isn't a p > mount or cheapo stylus type. Something else to do is get a > good alignment jig and check your cartridge's alignment. Proper > alignment of the stylus will minimize record wear, improve > tracking, and improve the sound substantially. I'd do this > unless you already did it yourself and you know the alignment is > dead-on, you'll be amazed how far off this can be on some > tables. (some of the cheaper decks are inaccurate by design!) Turntable alignment will improve sound and it's amazing how they get out of whack so fast! This Ariston Audio turntable of ours is a high maintenece affair let alone a struggle to find belts for! My old Thorens TD 165? was the same if I remember correctly. No doubt about it, suspensions in belt drives are a regal pain! When it comes to cartridges, after the first "moving coil" I never went back. They're mostly lower output so you need a head amp which thankfully my amp has built in. Also, you can't replace the stylus once it goes. Still the Signet (AudioTechnica) OC-9 is the best deal I know of. Bought the first one at US$200 a number of years ago and just got another at clearout for the same cost through Audio Advisor last year. There's little else to compare to it except a few Sumiko's which cost more and don't sound as good. I held off on changing it until we got our Nitty Gritty machine but it wore tremendously well in spite of what I've been playing through it these past few years! I'm not a fan of Grado myself but cartridges are probably the most personalized of all stereo components so... Brian Karasick Physical Planner McGill University Montreal, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:59:22 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Third Wave Concert Uke, Tiki Deluxe Model Nice uke: http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/TWCDLX-KOA.htm m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:01:16 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon In a message dated 4/24/0 7:48:04 PM, Bunnycupps@aol.com wrote: >"Anyways it goes on the bookshelf along with 'Ultra Lounge', 'Elevator >Music', 'Exotica', 'Forever Lounge', 'MusicHound Guide to Lounge', "ISM >I&II'....am I missing anything there?" > >Ever pick up Exotiquarium...? lots of great album covers to be found there. Add to that Stefan Kassel's "Soundtracks" coffee table soundtrack album cover book. The cover to the book itself looks a lot like the "Mad Mad World of Soundtracks" on Motor...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:07:39 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Yanni, meet Kenny In a message dated 4/25/0 5:41:26 AM, mojoto@plex.nl wrote: >Now Yanni, why is he there with all the others? >Saw him on a Dutch talkshow a year or so ago, with Linda Evans, his >wife or lover, whatever, I don't want to know, where he did a couple >of tunes, and I thought it was beyond appalling ..... Its the ecstatic look he wears on his puss that nauseates me. Similar to our pal Kenny G. Gee, wouldn't that make a good duo. Yanni and Kenny welcome in the year 2001 in space. Its a whole new world of sound. Its called Ecstatica....JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:55:59 -0500 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast is another heady brew of go-go sounds, bossa nova, space pop and private eye jazz. We'll hear the latest from Italy's Hollywood Party, along with assorted Europop and movie tunes by the Cordara Orchestra and Pulsar; Latin spice by Henry Mancini, Jack Costanzo and Rene Bloch (Perez Prado's longtime alto player); outer space pop from Arling and Cameron; tunes by Augie Colon, Vinnie Bell, Chaino, Mongo Santamaria, Peter Thomas and Sammy Davis, Jr.; plus a Hollywood tough guy goes Calypso! To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, go to: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html New shows added weekly. Your comments, suggestions and requests always welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:32:01 -0700 From: Jack Diamond Subject: (exotica) deadsville what is with this dead list for the last 2 days ? is everyone talking amongst themselves or what ? jd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:41:25 +1000 From: Philip Jackson Subject: Re: (exotica)"info exotica"/Widening the Horizon on 25/4/00 8:41 PM, Ton R=FCckert at mojoto@plex.nl wrote: > Now Yanni, why is he there with all the others? > Saw him on a Dutch talkshow a year or so ago, with Linda Evans, his > wife or lover, whatever, I don't want to know, where he did a couple > of tunes, and I thought it was beyond appalling, wasn't long till I > stoically turned of the TV set, went for a walk and pretended that > it never happened. You mean you missed him live at the Taj Mahal? Now that really was out ther= e somewhere way beyond appalling. Philip - --=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Heavenly Bodies vs Outer Space-The Encounter The structure is now (after a major jetsonian space age face lift) called "The Encounter" Exotica music plays on the elevator ride up and inside the bar/resturant. Spacemen clothes are worn by the waiters and jetson space sounds emit from the drink nozzel when filling up the drinks. Enormous futuristic lava lamps light up the surreal atmosphere. Sip a perfect Mai Tai there and watch the jets land, take off and taxi while Mancini plays. Even the food is great! I can't think of a better place to hang out and enjoy watching jets and the atmosphere of living in the future as seen through 1961 eyes.\ Easy listening in the Big Easy and looking forward to the Jazz Fest Chuck - --- Brian Phillips wrote: > > > >now this is funny, i have seen the comstock album picture on the web many > >times, but is this the LAX for sure? > > "Music from Outer Space" - 1962 > > And from a web page about LAX, > "December 18 [1996]- Los Angeles City Council designated the Theme Building > a cultural and historical monument. Built in 1961 as a symbol of futuristic > transportation at LAX, the Theme Building sits in the heart of the airport > passenger terminals. Its four parabolic arches rise 135 feet above the > ground over a central core that contains a cantilever restaurant and > observation deck, both with panoramic views of the airport and surrounding > communities." > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:06:52 EDT From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More on audio components In a message dated 4/25/00 1:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca writes: << Your friends list was all top but expensive stuff --- however, I feel that > paying the kind of money he mentioned for speaker cables, and system > interconnect cables is insane!!!! >> me too. btw, i just added yet another Magnavox stereo console (this one for my garage -- bringing the count to 6) and it sounds great. Fifteen bucks at Goodwill and the cabinet is beautiful. tell your friend about that! TB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:31:55 -0700 From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on audio components TB From: wrote in response to Brian: > << Your friends list was all top but expensive stuff --- however, I feel that > > paying the kind of money he mentioned for speaker cables, and system > > interconnect cables is insane!!!! >> > > me too. btw, i just added yet another Magnavox stereo console (this one for > my garage -- bringing the count to 6) and it sounds great. Fifteen bucks at > Goodwill and the cabinet is beautiful. tell your friend about that! Those consoles are certainly very cool. It is quite a luxury to live near a good Goodwill or Salvation Army. Regarding interconnect, if you have a high end system with $5K-7K worth of components, laying down $150 for interconnect is no big deal. At least, this is the rationalization. For a humorous look at the high end, goto: http://www.mirror.org/qstatistic/funandmusic.htm Be sure to check their test record (and note the common artwork theme) Erik www.swankradio.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:08:14 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) deadsville >what is with this dead list for the last 2 days ? >is everyone talking amongst themselves or what ? We all have tummyaches from eating too many chocolate bunnies. uhhhhn, m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:47:16 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on audio components While the thread's going, I've got to put in a word for the Tube/DIY school of thought. Escape the solid state! Here are some sites. All have links pages for further exploration. http://www.vacuumtube.com/ magazine/hardware sales http://www.soundpractices.com/ the site is still a bit sparse, but great magazine don't miss the article on Ampex reel-to-reels (even if it is in .pdf format for some weird reason) http://www.angela.com/ parts/used/new/NOS/kits/info/vintage literature/tubes galore http://www.melhuish.org/audio/fullrange.htm the cult of full-range single-driver speakers http://www.transcendentsound.com/ book/kits/info/bbs http://www.vacuumstate.com/ another combo of content and sales http://www.arduman.com/aa/ nuance & fluence http://www.audioweb.com/Newsstand/positivefeedback/default.asp excerpts from positive feedback magazine http://www.teleport.com/~tube/ audio bizarro http://www.io.com/~ftp/mailing-lists/sound-digest/ archives from a mailing list that makes us look sane Urgh... that's enough. This is getting silly. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:56:57 EDT From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) More on audio components Agreed, tube amps sound great --- but here's the problem with the with the whole vaccum tube thing, and why they are pretty much obsolete now. From the first second you start to use it is already dying and with it the sound quality. Anyone else here remember the days when drugs stores would have a wall of tubes you could purchase for doing home replacement on your electronic devices ---- and they had those tube testers so you could test your tv or record player tubes to see if they were OK? Larry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:32:27 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) Les Djinns Singers On an old ABC-Paramount dust liner, I spy an act called Les Djinns Singers, with 6 albums: 60 French Girls Can't Be Wrong 60 French Girls Sing Encore 60 French Girls Joyeux Noel 60 French Girls Les Petites 60 French Girls Sing Songs Of Paris 60 French Girls Chansons Americaines Now my guess is that it's a schoolgirl (or fake schoolgirl) chorus, and probably not very interesting -- but still, I'm curious what the story really is, if anyone knows. 6 albums seems like a strong run for the concept. I've never seen any of them myself. Thanks. Also listed, more definitely on the exotica side, are 4 volumes of "Adventures In Paradise" -- comps featuring artists like Alfred Alpaka, Roy Smeck, The Islanders, The Tahitians. m.ace ecam@voicenet.com OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:56:45 -0700 From: Jack Diamond Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Djinns Singers At 10:32 PM 4/25/00 -0400, you wrote: >60 French Girls Chansons Americaines I've got this 1, but I've never listened to it. It is on ABC Paramount, so they had to be "pretty popular" to have released 6 albums. Had to have sold a decent amount of records, as they plug wasn't pulled A distributor from overseas used it as a "filler pad", between some records I bought from him. He also sent some picture sleeves of Ferrante and Teicher and the 20 or 50 Guitars of Tommy Garrett, whatever it is, 20 or 50, I dunno. I look at it, I think about listening to it, but it hasn't happened yet. That happens a lot, A LOT, because silence is nice too Uh oh, is silence "exotica" ? I was thinking today about that long time list member who just unsubscribed to the list, forget his name and his comment about this list has become too "international" and didn't really understand what he meant, but then I do remember some threads about Fela and I think that may have been the last straw, at least for this fellow. I can agree on that 1. That's "international" music and yes, although "MANY thousands" of genres and sub-genres could be called "exotica" and the list rules state whatever about postings, I haven't heard anything about the few posts about audiophile gear. I would imagine that if THAT kind of post is excepted, well, then anything could be accepted onto this list. Just ramblin', bored in sunny California, wishin' I was in Jacksonville, Florida Jack # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:01:40 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) More on audio components >Agreed, tube amps sound great --- but here's the problem with the with the >whole vaccum tube thing, and why they are pretty much obsolete now. From the >first second you start to use it is already dying and with it the sound >quality. Aren't we all, aren't we all. I think the burnout problem is sometimes exaggerated. I scored a mid-60s Fender Champ guitar amp in 1994 -- god knows how long the tubes had been in it at that point. It's had constant use since then and the tubes are as strong as ever. Of course this is probably because I have spares on hand, ready to replace them. The old reverse-Murphy law. This is only my anecdotal experience. Other folks' tubes may nose-dive in a week (though if they do, their bias needs adjustment). Yes, I realize you're not talking about total burnout, but stealthy degradation. You have a genuine point, but I'm just not as discouraged by it. And true confessions... I still don't have a tube hi-fi -- I'm still using my 70s Advent Model 300 receiver (solid state, but at least no chips). Though I do enjoy running a record through the Champ now and then. I have no shame. What it lacks in fidelity, it makes up in presence and character. geeked, gawked, gakked, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:21:04 -0700 From: "Jeph Boyd" Subject: (exotica) Dennis Coffey Does anyone know where (or if) it's possible to buy Dennis Coffey's incredibly gritty, low-down 70's instrumental funk albums on CD? I'm hoping that there are a few folks on the list who are familiar with him. His stuff is really hard to track down, so if anybody has any of it and would like to make some kind of trade, please let me know. For you blaxpoitation buffs, he's the guy who did the theme from "Black Belt Jones". Thanks, Jeph ___________________ Jeff Boyd www.joynk.com/jeff ICQ: 5914688 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:14:53 -0700 From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Thorens Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:44:59 EDT From: SLarry3595@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) What's with this "downbeat"/tiki turntable >How does that >Thorens work with the got to have, but in slightly beat up condition >records? I have a Thorens TD165 that I bought over twenty years ago. It works great. The machinery is stripped down to the bare essentials. It's a very simple thing actually. It is very sensitive to heavy footsteps. I have to step lightly around it. Of course I could put a couple of pennies on the tone arm to fix that... (just kidding) My advice is to get the simplest turntable you can. The bottom of the line Thorens sounds better than fancy shmancy ones from small esoteric companies to me. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:16:44 -0700 From: "Jeph Boyd" Subject: (exotica) Page Cavanaugh and the woes of "digital remastering" Earlier today I picked up the CD reissue of Page Cavanaugh's "Plays and Sings for the Cocktail Hour" (1956). I've always been somewhat fond of this record for its marginally cheesy piano-bar jazz with vocals. Anyway, once I popped it in, I immediately noticed that the clarity was considerably lower than the several digital recordings I've made myself off my old record. In the recordings I've made myself, you can easily hear hi-hats and other subtleties in the treble range that seem to be absent on the CD. The CD seems so muffled by comparison that it almost sounds like RealAudio. It almost defeats the whole purpose of buying the album on disc in the first place, except for the 'convenience factor'. Funny thing is, the disc is supposedly 'digitally remastered'. However, I'm starting to realize that seeing 'Digitally Remastered' on a CD reissue means about as much as the 'All Natural' label on food products. Anybody else have similar stories? 'til next time, Jeph ___________________ Jeff Boyd www.joynk.com/jeff ICQ: 5914688 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:25:31 -0400 From: "Irwin Chusid/Raymond Scott Archives" Subject: (exotica) Raymond Scott update 5/00 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RAYMOND SCOTT NEWS UPDATE -- MAY 2000 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This month: # RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE in concert JAZZ at MOMA - May 19 WNYC radio - May 11 FEZ - July 29 # MANHATTAN RESEARCH, INC. (MRI) 2-CD set of Raymond Scott unreleased electronica Quotes on MRI by John Zorn, Peter Buck, Holger Czukay (Can), Simeon (Silver Apples), Matt Black (Coldcut), and others # RAYMOND SCOTT MUSIC available on CD # NEW PAGES on the Raymond Scott website # SONGS IN THE KEY OF Z: Irwin Chusid's new book and CD on Outsider Music (non-Scott related) hits the market May 2000 (info at bottom of this post) * * * * * * * # RAYMOND SCOTT ORCHESTRETTE in concert JAZZ at MoMA, Friday, MAY 19 WNYC, Thursday, MAY 11 FEZ, New York, Saturday, JULY 29 The RSO will perform in concert at the Museum of Modern Art on Friday evening, May 19, as part of the Jazz at MoMA series, and at Fez on July 29. The RSO, which performs modernistic arrangements of Scott tunes, debuted at the Jewish Museum in February 1999, and has performed at Central Park SummerStage opening for They Might Be Giants, and at the Animated Music Festival in Brussels. The group consists of Wayne Barker (piano, arrangements); Brian Dewan (electric zither, piano, accordion, koto, electronics); Michael Hashim (saxes); Will Holshouser (accordion, arrangements); George Rush (bass); Rob Thomas (violin); and Clem Waldmann (drums). For the MoMA date, Todd Reynolds will be filling in on violin and Matt Hong on saxophone. The concert will include special guest performances of RS tunes by David Garland (joined by Holshouser and Dewan), and violinist Dave Soldier (of the Soldier String Quartet). The Fez date will feature the RSO's regular line-up. Further details are available at the MoMA website: http://www.moma.org/ The RSO performs on WNYC's "New Sounds" with John Schaefer on May 11. In the New York metro area, the program airs on FM 93.9 at 11 pm, and worldwide on the web at http://www.wnyc.org. If you miss the "New Sounds" performance, it will be available as an audio archive (on demand, but not downloadable) on the WNYC website after Friday, May 12. Additional performance dates in NYC, LA, and Europe are being explored. For concert booking inquiries, contact Irwin Chusid RAYMOND ORCHESTRETTE STUDIO DEMO The RSO recently recorded an 8-tune album demo and is seeking interested record labels. Inquiries: Irwin Chusid Visit the RSO info page: http://RaymondScott.com/orchette.html includes two MP3 files * * * * * * * # MANHATTAN RESEARCH, INC. (MRI) 2-CD set of Raymond Scott unreleased electronica Basta Records has released MANHATTAN RESEARCH, INC., a 2-CD edition of Raymond Scott's unreleased electronic recordings. This collection features over two hours of first-time releases of archival Scott recordings from the 1950s and '60s. These works feature such RS inventions as the Electronium, Clavivox, Circle Machine (early sequencer), Rhythm Modulator, Bass-Line Generator, Bandito and Bongo Artist, and more. The album includes collaborative works with Jim Henson, and comes packaged in a 144-page book that features interviews with people who knew and worked with Scott (e.g., Mitzi Scott, Robert Moog, Tom Rhea), along with countless previously unseen photos, lab notes, and RS scrapbook items. MRI is scheduled for US release on May 16th, but is SHIPPING NOW from RaymondScott.com. To purchase, please e-mail: info@RaymondScott.com for ordering instructions [accepting Credit Card / PayPal / Check / Money Order] Amazon.com also has it (at a higher price): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/music-glance/B00004SYD6/ Some comments on Manhattan Research Inc.: "The electronic work of Raymond Scott had been long out of print, but MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC., recorded in the 50s and 60s, sound like nothing so much as the future." -- PETER BUCK, R.E.M. "Tireless dedication, impeccable taste, and uncompromising perfectionism is evident in every detail of this wonderful collection, which uncovers a neglected library of this maverick's pioneering electronica. From the astonishing sounds to the beautiful packaging, MRI is an essential release." -- JOHN ZORN "I rate Raymond Scott as one of the greatest music technology innovators of the 20th century. His music technology vision was so wide that today it is impossible to turn on a piece of equipment in your studio without automatically issuing a benediction to the spirit of Raymond Scott." -- MATT BLACK / COLDCUT "The phenomenon of Scott is one of those freaky cosmic concurrences of impossibilities that result in true originality. Out of Raymond Scott the world would receive electronic musical expressions that broke all the rules." -- SIMEON, SILVER APPLES "I love the packaging, and the interviews are incredibly interesting and informative.'' -- ADRIAN UTLEY, PORTISHEAD "Raymond Scott belongs to the phalanx of unique people like Les Paul, Oscar Sala, and Leon Theremin, to whom we owe so much in developing our own musical identity today. MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is one of the best CD presentations I have ever had my hands on.'' -- HOLGER CZUKAY, CAN "MRI is one of the most amazing CD packages I've ever seen. I've been listening constantly and I've read the whole book several times. It's SO inspiring. Scott's electronic instruments have an incredibly organic sound to them." -- ERIC HARRIS, OLIVIA TREMOR CONTROL * * * * * * * # RAYMOND SCOTT MUSIC is available on the following commercial releases: RECKLESS NIGHTS AND TURKISH TWILIGHTS (Sony Legacy, US; Basta, world) 1937-1939 original RS Quintette recordings, including most titles immortalized in WB cartoons * New Remastered version $9.59 from www.Borders.com SOOTHING SOUNDS FOR BABY (3 volumes, Basta) Scott's 1963 electronic lullabies for children of *all* ages; spooky minimalism and otherworldly ambient sounds predating Glass, Riley, Eno, Kraftwerk * http://www.Allegro.com $9.58 each http://www.mymusic.com $9.90 each http://www.buy.com $9.95 each http://www.800.com $9.95 each THE CHESTERFIELD ARRANGEMENTS (Basta) The METROPOLE ORCHESTRA with the Beau Hunks Saxtette Newly recorded orchestral arrangements of 17 Scott Quintet titles performed at "Cecil B. DeMille-like proportions" * Order for $12.99 from www.Amazon.com THE BEAU HUNKS SEXTETTE (Basta) CELEBRATION ON THE PLANET MARS 1994 recordings of classic RSQ repertoire MANHATTAN MINUET 1996 recordings of more classic RSQ repertoire BUG MUSIC (Nonesuch) Don Byron's project features six Scott Quintette titles, along with vintage Ellington and overlooked John Kirby tunes CARTOON MEDLEY CD (Rhino) Themes from the Cartoon Network, including two new arrangements of Scott's classic "Powerhouse" For easy purchasing links for the above RS-related CDs, go to: http://RaymondScott.com/SDisc.html * * * * * * * # NEW PAGES on the Raymond Scott website created by Jeff Winner Manhattan Research Inc. w/MP3s: http://RaymondScott.com/mripr.html ROBERT MOOG remembers Raymond Scott: http://RaymondScott.com/moog.html Raymond Scott TIMELINE: http://RaymondScott.com/timeline.html Raymond Scott's CIRCLE MACHINE: http://RaymondScott.com/circle.html * * * * * * * This mailing list has been compiled from those who have inquired about RAYMOND SCOTT over the years. Occasional news about RS will be issued, but this list will not be given to *anyone* for *any* reason. Let us know if you do not want to be included in our infrequent mailings. Best regards, Irwin Chusid Director, Raymond Scott Archives _____________________________________ Visit the Raymond Scott website http://RaymondScott.com created and maintained by Jeff Winner _____________________________________ _____________________________________ AND, on a nearly unrelated note, Irwin Chusid's new Outsider Music book and CD hit the market in early May. For full info: SONGS IN THE KEY OF Z: THE CURIOUS UNIVERSE OF OUTSIDER MUSIC http://www.keyofz.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #698 *****************************