From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #776 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Wednesday, August 9 2000 Volume 02 : Number 776 In This Digest: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks (exotica) Pat Boone - Departure (exotica) hallucinatory music Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks (exotica) cool record stores? (exotica) CD price-fix suit Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks (exotica) Martin Denny In "Forbidden Island" / exotica @ imdb Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit (exotica) What ruined music? Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks (exotica) [obits] Rosko,Alex ``Sleepy'' Stein,Seton Rochwite,Paul Hatfield Re: (exotica) backyard tiki photos Re: (exotica) Martin Denny In "Forbidden Island" / exotica @ imdb Re: (exotica) audio formats (exotica) price fixing (exotica) droplift (exotica) Big Labels get sued ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Aug 2000 05:52:25 -0700 From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks I'm afraid I don't agree. I think we are in a very good time creatively speaking. Of course I'm not talking anout Britney Spears or any of those Boybands. I really like the inheritance of punk and the DIY message. I think this is the right direction that music should take. Now everybody could make music. And that can produce some very unique and personal things that would be completely out of place a couple of decades ago. An example of this is The Shaggs. I know they were from the 60s but they only became relatively popular in the last couple of decades. And I think now, with the conceptual ruptures of punk and the ease of use of the musical instruments, it is more possible to have this unique Shaggs-like kind of music all over the world. The possibilities are endless. we could finally get rid of all the standard music out there and become a world where everybody produces his (her) own peculiar style of music. And then you can exchange it, copy, pirate it or do whatever you want with it, and other people can do the same with what you do. I think we are living in a really rich time. And that there is something for everybody out there. As Mo said you just have to try and "sort the pearls from the swines". And there are some really nice pearls out there. I know this is really idealistic but I think that the whole thing with Napster and the internet is that it can turn music back from a business into a hobby. And this is a great change. People will do music not to make money but because they want to or need to or whatever drives artists to create without thinking of money. I have a band in Colombia and last year we put out 1000 copies of a CD (it's called Las Malas Amistades). We haven't sold that many but that wasn't the idea anyway. We are proud of what we do (did) and we want to share it with other people. And I think that's the whole spirit of the moment. But at the end, of course, it just becomes a matter of taste. If you don't like Shaggs-like, personal and simple music, then this scenario I imagine can be absolute hell for you. Bye, Manuel > Subject: (exotica) an old low-tech fart speaks > > I've been reading all the posts about Napster, and reminiscing about the > days when: > > 1- Music became popular because the melodies and/or harmonies were > skillfully crafted by real musicians, (not posers and costumed choreography, > not scratchers and samplers, not casting-call gymnast-pretty boys) > 2- People that played music understood the beauty of understatement, didn't > try to fill up every measure with every hackneyed lick they ever copied off > somebody else's recording, understood dynamics and the concept that silence > is an important element in music.... > 3- Instrumentals didn't involve hypnotic repetition of one riff over and > over and over and over and over again etc. > 4- Lyrics were suggestive, provocative, understated, imaginative, clever, > presented old ideas in innovative ways, and didn't need to be hostile for > lack of anything interesting to say... > 5- Creativity didn't mean finding new ways to abuse a musical instrument. > 6- When a musician was asked "What do you play?", the answer wasn't "A > Marshall stack"....when musicians got together to chat, it was likely to be > about chord changes to an old standard, and rarely if ever about > equipment.... > 7- When pre-teenagers finally became adults, they stopped listening to > pre-teenage music..... > > Oh well, that's just me.... > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:41:56 -0400 From: "Michael Greenberg" Subject: (exotica) Pat Boone - Departure All - I recently acquired a used copy of this lp as a gift for a friend. The copy I have, has a plain white inner sleeve. I'm curious if the original lp came with any credits about session players, etc. on the the inner sleeve as this one only has "thank you's" on the back of the jacket itself. thanks! Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 11:17:14 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) hallucinatory music "Rare Hallucinations Make Music In The Mind" "Some hear choruses singing folk songs, others hear Mozart or even the Glenn Miller Orchestra -- but there is no music; they are hallucinating. New research in the August 8 issue of Neurology, the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology, confirms the region of the brain and condition that causes this rare and bizarre disorder..." http://www.eurekalert.com/releases/aan-rhm080100.html m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com http://ookworld.com/linkalog/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:46:51 -0400 From: "Chuck Collazzi" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks - --Excellent assessment, well expressed. Manuel wrote: > I'm afraid I don't agree. I think we are in a very good time creatively speaking. Of course I'm not talking anout Britney Spears or any of those Boybands. I really like the inheritance of punk and the DIY message. I think this is the right direction that music should take. Now everybody could make music. And that can produce some very unique and personal things that would be completely out of place a couple of decades ago. - --I once had a conversation with a person who contends that ALL SOUND is music, and that distinctions between, e.g., dropping a bowl of marbles on a tile floor and a Bach 3-part invention are irrelevant; between soaking a ferret in yellow paint, turning him loose on a concrete floor and the Mona Lisa are just different types of art.....etc....where do you draw the line? One could fill up a book-sized volume using, in order, alternating words in the dictionary--would that be a novel on a par with Anna Karenina? If you are going to accept the DIY approach to art, how can you exclude Britney, the Boybands, or any others of that ilk? Because you don't like their DIY approach? > > An example of this is The Shaggs. I know they were from the 60s but they only became relatively popular in the last couple of decades. And I think now, with the conceptual ruptures of punk and the ease of use of the musical instruments, it is more possible to have this unique Shaggs-like kind of music all over the world. - --Ease of use of musical instruments? Is that what we are striving for? Is that the end result of evolution? Fast food, instant coffee, learn-a-language-overnight videos, McMusic? >The possibilities are endless. we could finally get rid of all the standard music out there and become a world where everybody produces his (her) own peculiar style of music. And then you can exchange it, copy, pirate it or do whatever you want with it, and other people can do the same with what you do. - --Are you suggesting getting rid of classical music, jazz, musicals, opera, standards, etc.? Is literature next? > > I think we are living in a really rich time. And that there is something for everybody out there. As Mo said you just have to try and "sort the pearls from the swines". And there are some really nice pearls out there. - --True. Many of them seem to be standards from long ago. My teenage daughters are always amazed and revolted that, when they discover something exceptional to listen to, I am compelled to inform them that it's a remake of a song from 1950 (musically dumbed down, of course)..... > > I know this is really idealistic but I think that the whole thing with Napster and the internet is that it can turn music back from a business into a hobby. And this is a great change. People will do music not to make money but because they want to or need to or whatever drives artists to create without thinking of money. - --Napster is another can of worms entirely. I haven't taken a position yet because I don't know enough about it. However, if serious musicians are not encouraged to create music as a living, our music will continue on a downward spiral of higher volume, monotony, shock value, etc., > > I have a band in Colombia and last year we put out 1000 copies of a CD (it's called Las Malas Amistades). We haven't sold that many but that wasn't the idea anyway. We are proud of what we do (did) and we want to share it with other people. And I think that's the whole spirit of the moment. > - --I live in Jacksonville, Florida, a cultural wasteland. I have students who have been playing instruments for (sometimes) 6 months or less. They put bands together that last 3 weeks. They can't play for shit but they always get mom and dad to finance a CD. They don't stay together long due to conflicts which result when people are incompetent and blaming the other guy. They sell them at their performances and give copies to their relatives. What distinguishes one band from another? (I'm talking music, not volume/equipment/costumes/lyrics/attitude) > But at the end, of course, it just becomes a matter of taste. If you don't like Shaggs-like, personal and simple music, then this scenario I imagine can be absolute hell for you. - --I managed to avoid the Shaggs all these years, but on your suggestion I will find and listen to some of their stuff and try to understand better your position. Regards to all, Chuck > > Bye, > Manuel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:25:22 MST From: "Kevin Leeeeee" Subject: (exotica) cool record stores? hello, i'm trying to compile a list of cool/hip record stores. like the type that carries reissues and new music - exotica friendly fare. i'm mainly concerned with the bigger cities, but if you know of one that's in a small town that's cool too. website url's are probably best/easiest, or even just the name of the store and the city is good enough. i greatly appreciate any help in the matter. ciao! kevin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 14:31:59 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) CD price-fix suit "NEW YORK (Reuters) - Twenty-eight states filed suit against the world's five largest record labels on Tuesday, accusing them of fixing prices of compact discs and demanding 'hundreds of millions of dollars' in damages." Full story: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000808/ts/media_compactdiscs_dc_3.html m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com http://ookworld.com/linkalog/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 2000 11:52:43 -0700 From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks > If you are going to accept the DIY approach to art, how can you exclude > Britney, the Boybands, or any others of that ilk? Because you don't like > their DIY approach? Well, because they don't have much of a 'self' in the Do It Yourself departament. Or do they? I think they just sing what they are told to. They are performers not creators and, strictly speaking, they aren't doing anything, just repeating what they are told. > --Ease of use of musical instruments? Is that what we are striving for? Is > that the end result of evolution? Fast food, instant coffee, > learn-a-language-overnight videos, McMusic? Well in a way yes. This whole discussion has happened in the arts and there are interesting parallels with painting. Would you say that the introduction of photography and the abandonment of figurative painting was a loss for painting? I don't think so. When I look at a painting by Rothko or at a huge canvas by Jackson Pollock I can see things (and feel things) that wouldn't be possible in a figurative painting. So we can mourn that nowadays painters do not know the laws of perspective, but so what? The laws of perspective are not the only way of looking at the world. If we reject this laws in order to get a richer vision of the world, then I won't be complaining. But then again I agree with you that judging becomes much more difficult and that a lot of mediocrity can pass itself as avant-garde by avoiding any class of critical judgement. There are no rules, so finding what is sincere and real and what is not is much more difficult. > > --Are you suggesting getting rid of classical music, jazz, musicals, opera, > standards, etc.? Is literature next? Basically what has happened in the XXth century is that we have gotten rid of all standards. In all areas. And that brings positive things (a sense of freedom) but also negative things (rootlessness, disorientation). The only exception to this would be narrative film. The novel discovered that it didn't need plot. Music that it didn't need melody. Painting that it didn't need realism. And I think that at the end we live in a richer world because of that. > --I live in Jacksonville, Florida, a cultural wasteland. I have students who > have been playing instruments for (sometimes) 6 months or less. They put > bands together that last 3 weeks. They can't play for shit but they always > get mom and dad to finance a CD. They don't stay together long due to > conflicts which result when people are incompetent and blaming the other > guy. They sell them at their performances and give copies to their > relatives. What distinguishes one band from another? (I'm talking music, > not volume/equipment/costumes/lyrics/attitude) Well. Your students seem pretty uncommited to me. Me and my group we've been playing on and off for 7 or 8 years. We are not very disciplined but then we don't need to be (we don't live off music or plan to). We are not professionals and that's what makes it is so valuable to us. And also the fact that we are not profesionals allows us to play something that doesn't sound like anything else. > > --I managed to avoid the Shaggs all these years, but on your suggestion I > will find and listen to some of their stuff and try to understand better > your position. I hope you like The Shaggs. But I can understand if you don't. It really is the absolute destruction of popular music. It's like breaking pop music with a hammer and rearranging the pieces at random. But it IS something unique and different. And as someone said here before, you would have missed something if you die without having listened to them. And perhaps they can be a teaching aid in one of your classes (as in 'don't do that or else you'll become like them' kind of device). Cheers, Manuel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:10:06 +0100 From: hypnotique Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny In "Forbidden Island" / exotica @ imdb Volume 2 No4 of Film Score Monthly has an article by Kerry Byrnes concerning the movie. All of the following information is gleaned from the article. The film was shown on TNT in August 1992 and was videotaped by Martin Denny himself !! The film score is by Alexander Laszlo. Martin played a cameo part of a piano player in a bar (typecasting!) I believe Martins lines were "Night, honey" and that was it. The stereo and mono versions of Denny's FI album have different covers as do around 4 of his other lps. I recommend digging out the article if you can. I don't know if the mag still has back issues but they have a presence on the web. John www.martindenny.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:12:21 EDT From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit In a message dated 08/08/00 2:31:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mace@ookworld.com writes: << Twenty-eight states filed suit against the world's five largest record labels on Tuesday, accusing them of fixing prices of compact discs and demanding 'hundreds of millions of dollars' in damages." >> like we did not see this happening. time for all those industry lawyers to go to work. tb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 15:11:39 -0400 From: Will Straw Subject: Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit Great -- just what we need here : more grist for the Napster debate. Will Will Straw, Associate Professor, Communications Department of Art History and Communications Studies McGill University 3465 Peel St., Montreal, Quebec CANADA H3A 1W7 Phone: (514) 398-7667 Fax: (514) 398 4934 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:36:58 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) CD price-fix suit In a message dated 8/8/0 4:26:49 PM, wstraw@po-box.mcgill.ca wrote: >Great -- just what we need here : more grist for the Napster debate. Never used Napster, never will...Just give me the product to see, hold, sleeve, shelve, and play.....Yawnster.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:43:56 -0700 From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) What ruined music? exotica-digest wrote: >Only who do you want to blame for the changes? I blame the Beatles. Not because the Beatles are bad, mind you, but because they set a bad precedent for other musicians to follow. Before the Beatles, musicians had to be able to play their instruments very well. Recording was secondary to performance. The Beatles showed that a group with modest musicianship could be very successful. The problem was that the groups that followed the Beatles' lead didn't have the musicality that Lennon and McCartney had. >Music had to develop, the old patterns were used in all kinds of >thinkable ways. I don't think that there is much diversity in music any more. In the fifties, there were exotica albums, western swing, hillbilly, be-bop, big band swing, pop vocals, r&b, rock & roll, blues, mambo, polka, and a gazillion blends between. Today there are a million subtle variations of "rock" music. Country music is no longer country music. Jazz is no longer jazz. The varieties of music have been blended into a fine mush. >The messages of the elder generations did not speak >to the younger. That is just plain not true. Young people listen to what they are given. The reason they listen to bland, corporate rock music is because that is what the big record companies choose to force feed them. When a person gets a little older, if he retains interest in music, he learns to search out GOOD music, instead of just taking what he is given. >New technologies offered new possibilities, some musicians >did handle them in pleasant ways, many did not. New technology has made it even easier to be a musician without chops. Twiddle a knob and set up a sequencer loop and you can release your own CD. It doesn't matter that you can't read music... that you can't play any instruments... and that you have very little idea of the musical forms that went before you... All you need to do is make interesting noise. >it's up to you to sort the pearls from the swines... The pearls are getting overrun by pork lately. Thankfully, the music of the past is archived for us. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204 Glendale, CA 91205 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:22:50 -0400 From: "Peter Risser" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: an old low-tech fart speaks First, you guys gotta know that you really do sound like old farts when you say things like "Musically dumbed down, of course". My son loves that Puff Daddy song where he raps over Kashmir by Led Zeppelin. Well, whatever. I respect him and his musical tastes, and am happy that he even cares at all. Because, for god's sake, I started with Barry Manilow and Kenny Rogers as a 7 yr old and ended up with John Zorn, Ennio Morricone, Hugo Montenegro, Kronos Quartet, John Cage, John Barry and so on and so on. Is "Oops I Did It Again" really that much worse than "My Boyfriend's Back"? I dunno. > --I once had a conversation with a person who contends that ALL SOUND is > music, and that distinctions between, e.g., dropping a bowl of marbles on a > tile floor and a Bach 3-part invention are irrelevant; between soaking a > ferret in yellow paint, turning him loose on a concrete floor and the Mona > Lisa are just different types of art.....etc....where do you draw the line? > One could fill up a book-sized volume using, in order, alternating words in > the dictionary--would that be a novel on a par with Anna Karenina? Nobody's saying it would be on par with anything. The mistake is thinking that "art" must be "good art". Therefore, if I really appreciate the sound of marbles on a tile floor (and I do!), but I wouldn't suggest that it is in anyway as on par with a Bach Cantata. > --True. Many of them seem to be standards from long ago. My teenage > daughters are always amazed and revolted that, when they discover something > exceptional to listen to, I am compelled to inform them that it's a remake > of a song from 1950 (musically dumbed down, of course)..... > --I live in Jacksonville, Florida, a cultural wasteland. I have students who > have been playing instruments for (sometimes) 6 months or less. They put > bands together that last 3 weeks. They can't play for shit but they always > get mom and dad to finance a CD. They don't stay together long due to > conflicts which result when people are incompetent and blaming the other > guy. They sell them at their performances and give copies to their > relatives. What distinguishes one band from another? (I'm talking music, > not volume/equipment/costumes/lyrics/attitude) Why is this a bad thing? It sounds like they are having a good time. No-one's claiming they're going to be the next Beethoven. And yet, grab the Nuggets compilation, you can hear the raw talent, the gems that come forth out of what must have been a vomitous mass of mediocre pop tunes. Anyway, Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:15:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obits] Rosko,Alex ``Sleepy'' Stein,Seton Rochwite,Paul Hatfield Bill (Rosko) Mercer, whose ultra-cool on-air style helped define the cachet of early FM radio, died Tuesday night after a long battle with cancer. He was in his 60s. He was diagnosed with cancer in 1991 and had undergone a series of treatments and alternative therapies. "He was in a lot of pain," said his wife, Joanna. "But he had a very strong will to live." Mercer grew up on 114th St. and fell into radio when he was the men's room attendant at the swanky Latin Casino in Philadelphia. Patrons including John Kelly, father of Grace Kelly, noticed his rich voice and encouraged him to try radio. "I really wanted to be a poet," Mercer said years later. "But then I found that radio, done properly, could also be poetry." He worked at WNJR, WINS and other stations, broadcasting live from the Palm Cafe and emceeing shows at the Apollo Theatre in Harlem. In 1966 he was hired at WOR-FM, which was plunging blindly into an experimental free-form style. Alongside Murray the K and Scott Muni, he helped develop what he called "mind excursion" radio, which he brought to full flower a year later when he moved to WNEW. His late-night music, long poetic raps and even commercials enthralled listeners. After a five-year period in France, he returned to the U.S. in the late 1970s and worked at WBLS and WKTU. He abruptly left WKTU in 1985 - quitting on the air - when he felt the station had reneged on promises made to him. That was his last regular radio show, though he did some work on WBAI. He wrote poetry and did voiceover work, which he said in the mid-'90s was preferable to what he called the "stifling" atmosphere of modern radio. Plans for a memorial service were being discussed, his wife said yesterday. --David Hinckley NY Daily News ==================================== LOS ANGELES (AP) - Alex ``Sleepy'' Stein, the founder of the first all-jazz radio station, died July 27 of cancer. He was 81. Stein started working for CBS radio in the 1940s and later moved to Chicago, where he earned the nickname ``Sleepy'' after replacing an all-night deejay named Wide-Awake Widoe. He moved to Southern California, where he started broadcasting from an AM station in Long Beach. In 1957, Stein bought KNOB and began all-jazz programming from the Signal Hill station. On-air personalities at the groundbreaking station included famous jazz announcers Chuck Niles, Jim Gosa and Alan Schultz. Stan Kenton helped him finance the station by contributing the profits from his band's performances. ==== The following is the text of the obituary as it appeared in the Loveland Reporter Hearald, Denver Post and Casper Star Tribune. Seton Rochwite, of Loveland, CO, a retired consulting product engineer, died 7/18/00. He was 95. He was born November 22, 1904 in Princeton, Wisconsin. After the family moved to Hartford, Wisconsin he attended Hartford High School. After his graduation in 1924 he went on to Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, graduating in 1929 with a degree of Electrical Engineer. The first 14 years of his career were as a lighting engineer with The Milwaukee Electric Co. In 1943 he designed a stereoscopic camera utilizing the newly announced Kodachrome Color film. He named it the Stereo Realist and it caused a worldwide revival of interest in stereo photography and is still the standard by which others are judged. Two years of his career were spent as a staff member at the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory. Leaving there in 1952, he began a career as a consulting product engineer in both the photo and medical instruments fields. In 1977 he and his wife Isabelle left California where they had lived for 14 years and moved back to Loveland to spend their retirement years. She preceded him in death in 1995 shortly after they had celebrated their 69th wedding anniversary and just 2 days before her 91st birthday. For many years he was active in photo exhibitions worldwide receiving many medals and honors. He had achieved the rating of Master 1 for having had over 755 acceptances with over 171 different pictures. In 1979 The Photographic Society of America presented him with it's highest honor, The Progress Medal, for his achievements in photographic equipment design. He was an honorary member of three camera clubs - The Photo Pictorialissts of Milwaukee, The Oakland Camera Club and the Rocky Mountain Camera Club. He was also a member of Tau Beta Pi, national engineering honor fraternity. He is survived by two daughters - Sue Richardson of Casper, Wyoming and Sally Kustka of Bowie, Maryland, six grandchildren and three great grandchildren. === Taken from the Montreal Gazette: Paul Hatfield, whose "Poetry in Motion" acrobat/balancing act and "Hatfields" dancing dolls earned him guest appearances on several talk shows, has died. He was 72. Hatfield, nicknamed "Sky High", made appearances on "The Ed Sullivan Show", "The Mike Douglas Show" and "The Merv Griffin Show". He also worked the "Supper Club Circuit" from Hollywood to Montreal, notably with Kirk Douglas. Mr. Hatfield passed away on July 7th. "The life & times of Paul Hatfield" can be found at: www.angelfire.com/md/ghatfield/skyhigh.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 21:27:47 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) backyard tiki photos This is indeed one of the best "nostalgia trips" that I've seen on the 'Web. Having grown up in LA during the same time frame, I can say that the feelings it evokes seem completely true to me. An absolutely terrific site for local TV nostalgia is Tisha Parti's Local Legends site; absolutely indispensible for Angeleno's who're trying to recapture some of those weird kid show vibes from the 70's. Even non-SoCalifornians will probably find something entertaining here: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/PartiGirl/index.html itsvern@ibm.net wrote: > I recently discovered a website by a guy named Wec Clark called 'Avocado > Memories.' It's comprised of comments on photographs he took of his > home while growing up in the L.A. area during the 60's and 70's. > - -- Matt Marchese mjmarch@charter.net http://reality.sgi.com/mattm_americas/ "Lucky Fruit, the dried corpse is horrible!" -Peacock King *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 20:11:30 -0700 From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Martin Denny In "Forbidden Island" / exotica @ imdb hypnotique wrote: > > Volume 2 No4 of Film Score Monthly has an article by Kerry Byrnes > concerning the movie. > All of the following information is gleaned from the article. > > I recommend digging out the article if you can. I don't know if the mag > still has back issues but they have a presence on the web. 1992 is available for $15: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/back_issues/earlyyears.asp - -Kevin - -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 21:41:14 -0700 From: "Erik Hoel" Subject: Re: (exotica) audio formats Mo wrote: > My friend Bernd just told me about an experimant they made recently with > all kinds of musicians, music journalists, university music professors, > sound engineers and the like. These people were blindfold-tested with > the contemporary audio standards, MP3, Mini Disc, CD, even audio > cassette etc. The result of the test was that nobody could really > distinguish between those formats. It all seems to be a myth. How about some really nice vinyl on a high-end system. No comparison IMHO. In all seriousness, has anyone (on this list) experimented with the various digital audio formats? A friend and I recently tried comparing MP3, RealAudio, and WMA (Windows Media Audio) when compressing WAV files down to a level suitable for streaming on the net (i.e., 56Kbps). This result in a compression storage requirement of ~1MB per minute of music. Our blind test yielded the following consensus: 1. WAV (duh - not too surprising given that this was the source audio ...) 2. WMA (_almost_ as good as WAV) 3. MP3 4. RealAudio (distant fourth) I was personally quite surprised with WMA - good stuff. So good infact that we decided to convert our streaming audio site to WMA - we ended up abandoning this idea after learning how much more it was going to cost to have someone host a site that streams WMA. MP3 is dirt cheap...particularly given Live365, etc. Has anyone else tried this sort of test? Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:38:55 +0800 From: "william" Subject: (exotica) price fixing thought some of you might find this story interesting...majors in trouble again... william in taipei. http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/08/media.compactdiscs.lawsuit.reut/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 05:07:44 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) droplift 'Guess what I got today at the CD store? I guess the subject line gives it away. That's right. The Droplift Project CD. I found it in "New Arrivals" in the hippest CD store in town. I was surprised to see it there (let alone in Toronto). I asked the clerk if he knew about it. He said that some guy came in there and put in the "D" section, then told him about it. I thought that was a bit weird that the person told the store that they put it there. Then again, this is way too hip a store to put one in. (And also, their CD's are in the store with covers only. This had the CD in it which right away made it seem "different".) Anyway, since I knew what it was, the clerk gave it to me. Which is good since there's no way I would have paid them for something that someone left in their store for free. I started to listen to it. There's a lot of samples and little "music", so far. Sort of the opposite of the usual problem which is very few samples and not much music either. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 2000 06:25:10 -0700 From: mkg@calle22.com Subject: (exotica) Big Labels get sued 28 States Sue Majors Over CD Price Fixing By Reuters Tuesday , August 08 12:53 p.m. Twenty-eight U.S. states filed suit against the world's five largest record labels on Tuesday, accusing them of fixing prices of compact discs and demanding unspecified damages. The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, centers on a policy called ''minimum advertised pricing'' (MAP), under which the labels subsidized advertising for retailers that agreed not to sell CDs below a minimum price determined by the labels. New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said in a statement, ''This illegal action ... has not been music to the ears of the public. Because of these conspiracies, tens of millions of consumers paid inflated prices to buy CD's...'' The suit alleges that the MAP policy increased CD prices in violation of state and federal antitrust law, kept CD prices artificially high and penalized retailers that did not participate. The five labels are Time Warner's Warner Brothers music group; Sony Corp.'s Sony Music Entertainment; Seagram Co.'s Universal Music Group; BMG, the music unit of Bertelsmann, and EMI Group. Also named as defendants were three retailers: MusicLand Stores Corp., Tower Records, and Trans World Entertainment Corp. MAP policy originated in the mid-1990s when large department stores and consumer electronics retailers began selling CD's below cost as a ''loss leader,'' in an effort to get people into the stores to buy big-ticket items. The labels say they started the MAP policy in an effort to help smaller music retailers compete with chains such as Wal-Mart and Circuit City. They say smaller retailers do not have the option of offsetting losses from cut-price CD sales with sales of other products. The labels say they received no financial gain from the MAP policy. ''The wholesale price we charged retailers was the same whether or not they participated in MAP,'' one label executive said. In a settlement with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission announced in May, the five labels agreed to ban the MAP policy for seven years. The settlement did not require the labels to pay any damages. Industry executives say CD prices have risen since the May settlement. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #776 *****************************