From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #800 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, September 18 2000 Volume 02 : Number 800 In This Digest: (exotica) The word on the Esquivel biopic? Re: (exotica) searching the Exotica Mailing List Archive Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records (exotica) Burt's Apple Crumble, Blow Up and gangsters Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records Re: (exotica) Pauza Record Label Re: (exotica) Pausa Record Label Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records (exotica) Prado "Latino" on Camden (exotica) Re: dischoteque (exotica) Re: Exoti-Beatles (exotica) Slightly OT: Recording Industry Subversion (exotica) check out the real OPEN POP STAR, Luther Blissett. RE: (exotica) Exoti-Beatles on Live365.com Re: (exotica) Pierre Henry Live (exotica) That taboo subject again... (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question (exotica) Rawck in CT Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Re: (exotica) Re: Exoti-Beatles RE: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Sep 2000 15:54:01 -0700 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: (exotica) The word on the Esquivel biopic? Hello. Anyone know whether the Esquivel biopic is a go or no go? Has filming started, the screenplay finished, casting complete? What's the score? When's the release date? On another topic, I hear from Scott Smith, Ferrante and Teicher's lead guy, that this release of an old soundtrack they did (never released before) is waiting on new enhancements from the duo. Apparently the music doesn't stand well on its own (no real endings...just cues and that sort of thing), so F&T are adding new prepared piano performances to make it whole. Don't know how this will work, but we probably won't see this until early 2001 now. I am definitely looking foward to this! Byron ___...---''''^^^^^""""""^^^^^''''---...___ ||| bag@hubris.net Portland, OR, USA ||| """^^^'''----.....______.....----'''^^^""" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:59:35 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) searching the Exotica Mailing List Archive >searching the Exotica Mailing List Archive isn't possible, and it >won't be easy to make it happen i think. Indeed. One clumsy alternative, which doesn't help us at all on a mass basis: Fortunately, they are all plain text files. So if you had the disc space (bigger and cheaper by the minute these days, it seems), you could take a sledgehammer approach and simply download the whole archive to your computer, then use text-search utilities to find topics. But can you imagine how many returns you would get on, say, "Denny"? m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com http://ookworld.com/linkalog/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:27:15 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records At 03:27 PM 9/16/00 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: >>So the owner cut to the heart of the matter and replied "Look. There's >>nothing great here". >>Just as I came to a copy of Les Baxter's "Tamboo". > >I gotta know....... what did this guy say when you brought all these >records up to the counter?? Usually he says nothing, just looks at me like you'd look at a mentally challenged person you pity, but on this occasion he pointed out the Jackie Gleason "Ooooh" record on the top of the pile and smiled. (I don't know what it is about that record but this was the first playable copy I've found of that, after five or six previous tries.) I wasn't sure what his smile meant but it looked less judgemental than it usually does. Then again, it could have just been that this was one of those British pressings (you know, with the more pliable, shinier record jacket) and this guy is such a British chauvinist that maybe it made him appreciate the record more than usual. I know it's hard to work in a used record store and not be a little judgmental about people's purchases. I used to heap scorn upon the kids who came in looking for that Bob James record that whoever the hell (DeLaSoul??) sampled. They wanted Bob James 1 but they had no interest in 2, 3, 4 or anything else I might point out to them. But this guy is just judgemental period. End of rant. (Abba to Zappa, my ass. More like Abba and Zappa and not much in between.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:38:01 GMT From: "Helen Barrell" Subject: (exotica) Burt's Apple Crumble, Blow Up and gangsters Giovanni said: > 1. Quik: Bert's Apple Crumble (also on Decca's "The Mod Scene" > and Kent's "Rhythm'n'Blue Eyed Soul") And also on the marvellous 'Blow Up A-Go-Go' album - there's loads of ace 60's stuff on there - Georgie Fame 'Somebody Stole My Thunder', Jacques Dutronc 'Responsable', 'The Beat Goes On' - and more! Shame that the club itself doesn't play much of that music - i went to Blow Up the other week and they played - Blondie....... And you can also find 'Bert's Apple Crumble' on the soundtrack of 60's Brit gangster film 'Gangster #1' - it's playing in the background when they're chasing around a block of flats. Very effective! By the way, this album sounds great! i'll have to have a look for it - does it come recommended? And i'm trying to build a website for my fanzine, at: dansette.moonfruit.co.uk So far there's just a pic of Peggy Moffitt. Ah, what the hell...! from Helen. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:51:29 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records In a message dated Sat, 16 Sep 2000 3:50:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Br. Cleve" writes: << At 7:43 PM -0400 9/14/00, alan zweig wrote: I gotta know....... what did this guy say when you brought all these records up to the counter?? I used to work in a used record store where you'd be greeted with "What are you buying this crap for?" when you come up with ez/exotica br cleve Cleve is referring to S. J's in Cambridge where they smile in your face, all the while they wanna put you in your place.......If it ain't vintage jazz there its just plain shit. And I LIKE them! JB/seen the best minds of Rekkid Collectorship raked over the coals, reamed, steamed and dry-cleaned..Glued, screwed, blewed and tattoed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:04:48 -0500 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Pauza Record Label > Anyone here know about the "Pauza" record label? > Who owns the music on this label these days? Back in my jazz announcer days, I remember that Pausa was a GREAT jazz label! George Shearing, Laurindo Almeida, Art van Damme, the Singers Unlimited, Oscar Peterson and many other greats had records on Pausa in the late '70s/early 80s. They also released a lot of material from Germany's MPS label in this country (some of the stuff on the "Snowflakes" comp probably came out on Pausa in the USA). Pausa was one of my favorite labels from the early '80s. Haven't seen any new Pausa releases in more than 15 years, so I guess they're gone. For some reason, I've got it in my head that Verve owns their catalog now. Darrell Brogdon dbrogdon@ukans.edu The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Broadcasting Hall The University of Kansas Lawrence, KS 66045 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:28:50 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Pausa Record Label >Anyone here know about the "Pauza" record label? I did! It was the last label that Jazz label great Norman Granz ran. There was a wonderful Art Tatum release on the label (well after Tatum's passing, of course) and also, there was a flutist by the name of Sherry Winston that recorded "Do It For Love" for them. This album was very hard to get from the distributors, as I recall. When I worked at Tower, this album was getting a airplay and our inability to stock the album frustrated a lot of potential buyers. It was a "fusion" affair, if I am not mistaken. >Who owns the music on this label these days? I would not be surprised if >someone here on the list knows this! Well, I didn't know this, but I found out from a web page that the rights seem to be held by Verve Forecast, which is fitting, seeing that Norman Granz founded Verve. I don't know whether the other artists on the label make it the Pausa that refreshes, Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:27:53 -0400 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records >I know it's hard to work in a used record store and not be a little >judgmental about people's purchases. When I worked at Tower, life wasn't much better. If Barbara Streisand so much as belched, the fans would start calling the store within seconds ("Is Color Me Belch" in yet? Well, when are you getting it!?). There is a store here in Atlanta that I used to dislike, because the people were rude and the used records overpriced. A garage/Beat comp, Pebbles 20, was being sold for 15.00 and I could have bought it new for five dollars! They have switched out the rude folks and when I bought several records and a 78 (which I will have on my site soon) by a potential cousin of Dick Hyman, with the name of Dick Beavers. When they saw the 78, they said, "You're buying this for the same reason we bought it, huh?" I replied, "Yes" and they said, "Go ahead and take it!' THE worst place I have ever been in was the Record Collector in Los Angeles. I asked for a specific Classical record, which he had for twenty dollars. I didn't want to pay that much and within seconds, one of the workers came right up to me and said, "You won't spend twenty dollars!? That's like a burger, fries and a soda!" Needless to say, I warn anyone I know away from that place. I was in another store and was having a nice conversation with one of the fellows and I mentioned that I was in another store where they practically demanded that I buy a record from them, one of the guys, said, "Record Collector? That guy's a jerk!" I had not told him the name of the store before he said that! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 07:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie Looking for some Pauza info at the Verve web page and found a page with "ecards" The Bossa Nova ecard is about the new movie called "Bossa Nova". Looks like fun. Amy Irving is in it. The last thing I remember reading about her is that she was starting a new life in Brazil. Nice to see her back in the movies and in something Brazil repated. http://www.verveinteractive.com/ecards/ Lots of classics on the soundtrack with some new material. Domenic P.S. You Can Get Free Email & Homepages @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:50:28 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie In a message dated Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:39:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Domenic Ciccone" writes: << The Bossa Nova ecard is about the new movie called "Bossa Nova". Looks like fun. Amy Irving is in it. The last thing I remember reading about her is that she was starting a new life in Brazil. Nice to see her back in the movies and in something Brazil repated. http://www.verveinteractive.com/ecards/ Lots of classics on the soundtrack with some new material. Domenic For another excellent bossa nova soundtracked movie, catch the quirky and quite enjoyable "Next Stop, Wonderland" P.S. You Can Get Free Email & Homepages @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:50:32 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie In a message dated Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:39:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Domenic Ciccone" writes: << The Bossa Nova ecard is about the new movie called "Bossa Nova". Looks like fun. Amy Irving is in it. The last thing I remember reading about her is that she was starting a new life in Brazil. Nice to see her back in the movies and in something Brazil repated. http://www.verveinteractive.com/ecards/ Lots of classics on the soundtrack with some new material. Domenic For another excellent bossa nova soundtracked movie, catch the quirky and quite enjoyable "Next Stop, Wonderland" P.S. You Can Get Free Email & Homepages @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:52:12 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Bossa Nova Movie In a message dated Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:39:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Domenic Ciccone" writes: The Bossa Nova ecard is about the new movie called "Bossa Nova". Looks like fun. Amy Irving is in it. The last thing I remember reading about her is that she was starting a new life in Brazil. Nice to see her back in the movies and in something Brazil repated. http://www.verveinteractive.com/ecards/ Lots of classics on the soundtrack with some new material. Domenic For another bossa nove soundtracked film, catch "Next Stop Wonderland", a great little sleeper filmed in Boston P.S. You Can Get Free Email & Homepages @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> @xmission.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Domenic Ciccone" Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > Cleve is referring to S. J's in Cambridge where they smile in > your face, all the while they wanna put you in your > place.......If it ain't vintage jazz there its just plain shit. > And I LIKE them! JB/seen the best minds of Rekkid Collectorship > raked over the coals, reamed, steamed and dry-cleaned..Glued, > screwed, blewed and tattoed Ahh.....a must see stop for the record collector exotica enthusiast. When I started getting into this stuff I found a used “Wild Cool and Swingin’ UL comp. I asked the owner about where he puts “lounge” stuff (it was new to me) and he said that stuff was hard to categorize and he didn’t know where to put it. They put Les Baxter on the speakers for me! I didn’t buy it “The Poor People Of Paris” scared me. I still can’t get used to it. Well now there is a used CD exotica slot, but it’s always empty, sold out I assume. But he does have exotica/lounge records and they sell for less than the other over inflated used record stores in the area. One nice thing he did for me. I bought a used Nina Simone Phillips recording that I thought was a concert but was another of her many comps. I brought it back in for a trade a ½ year later when I was in town again and in conversation told him I was returning it since I had all the material on her other CD’s. He gave me full credit for it! The last time I was in there was this January with another list member. I like talking with these folks because you always learn something, maybe it was the cold weather but I wasn’t getting anywhere this time. On my way out with my purchase I smiled and said “See you next year!” And it was worth it for the perplexed expression on J’s face. It’s September now…the way things look I might not get there until next year. But it’s the only place in town, besides CD Spins, where you can still get decent CD’s for under 8 dollars. Domenic P.S. You Can Get Free Email & Homepages @ http://www.buzzlink.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 00 13:02:19 -0400 From: "Michael D. Toth" Subject: (exotica) Prado "Latino" on Camden Favor request! Could someone who has a copy of the Perez Prado "Latino" album e-mail me its track listing off-list? Thanks oodles! Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com mtoth@neo.rr.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 16:20:43 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: dischoteque At 20:13 +0000 2000/09/16, Giovanni Berti wrote: >The tracks I didn't already know and couldn't relate to proper track >number are the remaining: >- Big Jim H: Blues For The Keyboard on A3-- not Dr. John: One Night Late. 100% sure, as i have the original Big Jim H LP. Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:00:01 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: Exoti-Beatles vol 1 is my favorite. in vols 2 and 3, there are some quite loud and "alternative" tracks. hardrock doesn't really fit in with novelty, i think. read my reviews of them at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/critiq/critiq.htm Johan ----- At 11:16 -0600 2000/09/15, exotica-digest wrote: >Date: 13 Sep 2000 11:54:21 -0700 >From: mkg@calle22.com >Subject: (exotica) > >I know this records were mentioned before, but everything was so >brief... So I saw these Exotica Beatles compilations in a record >store and they look fine. Volumes 2 and 3. Is any of those better >than the other? > >What kind of strangeness should I expect? > >Cheers, >Manuel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 00 13:11:17 -0400 From: "Michael D. Toth" Subject: (exotica) Slightly OT: Recording Industry Subversion This was directed to my attention and I thought Exotica listers would also find this pretty interesting. (The band in question here is Smashing Pumpkins, BTW) From http://mb.smashingpumpkins.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019901.html >Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for MACHINA II/the Friends & Enemies of >Modern Music > >1) What is 'F&EoMM'? 2) What's w/ the duplicate songs? 3) How can I get >it? 4) What about CD? 5) Why was it released this way? 6) But doesn't this >exclude a lot of people? 7) But I want liner notes & artwork & a CD I can >hold! 8) So now what? > >1) What is 'F&EoMM'? > >"MACHINA II/the Friends & Enemies of Modern Music" is the pumpkins' final >album, the followup to "MACHINA/the Machines of God". It is a limited >pressing of only 25 (twenty-five) copies on hand-cut, hand-numbered, >non-lacquered acetate (aka vinyl, aka records), consisting of 3 10" EPs >and a double 12" LP, 5 discs & 25 songs total. The 25 copies were given to >close friends of the band, a few of whom happen to be online, and whom >were instructed to circulate the new material as quickly as possible, >since the band plans on playing some of the new material on the European >tour. > >For more detailed info, see: >http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/discog.html?discog_id=153 > >2) What's w/ the duplicate songs? > >Some of the songs have been unofficially released before (i.e. the F&E >bootleg), but with the exception of Real Love (same take as the F&E >bootleg version) and Le Deux Machina (same version as found on the >acoustic machina demos), these are all completely different versions, >takes, and/or mixes that haven't been heard before. The songs which appear >twice are different takes, versions, and/or arrangements. > >3) How can I get it? > >Since there were only 25 copies on vinyl, unless you were one of the lucky >25, you can't get the original pressing. But since the band instructed >some of the recipients to circulate and distribute the material, you will >be able to get copies of it- consider it an "official bootleg". > >Currently, the only source available is mp3. Since none of the 3 known >online recipients had access to an ultra-high-end audiophile turntable >(the tube kind that cost thousands), one of them used what they had and >made mp3s so that the new songs could be distributed immediately. > >There are plenty of web/ftp sites and mirrors hosting the new songs, as >well as people sharing files via napster, AIM, etc. Look around a bit, the >info has been posted in many places many times. > >4) What about CD? > >It will take time, but one of the recipients will definitely take their >vinyl to a studio or a friend with high-end equipment worthy of doing >another high-quality dump to DAT, which will then be burned to CD and then >treed & traded from there, to produce the highest possible quality recording. > >The band did not provide anyone with an all-digital copy, as they wanted >the sound of the vinyl to be present on the recordings. > >5) Why was it released this way? > >Virgin was not interested in releasing a followup to Machina, so rather >than pack up their gear and go home, they recorded and released it >themselves. > >It will not and cannot be officially released on CD, as their contract >with Virgin includes a non-compete clause, which prevents them from >releasing anything Virgin holds rights to under another label for 1 year. >Since the material was partially recorded while still under the Virgin >contract, they are legally prohibited from releasing it on another label >or in any other way. > >6) But doesn't this exclude a lot of people? > >Perhaps. But rather than think of it as -excluding- people who don't have >burners, computers, or internet connections, think of it as -including- >all the fans who do. Since Virgin wouldn't release it, it's either this >way, or no way at all, and we'd all be out 25 new (and extremely kick-ass) >songs. So, rather than complain that it's not an official release, be >happy that we got 25 new songs. After all, it is ultimately all about the >music. > >Once high-quality CDs start circulating, it will spread to people all over >the world, even to those who don't have internet access or computers. It >will be played by underground student radio stations, it will be copied >for those who can't make their own copies. Eventually it will get around >to everyone, it'll just take time. > >7) But I want liner notes & artwork & a CD I can hold! > >Well, unforunately, the only way that's possible is if you burn & print >out your own copy, or have someone else do it for you. You can check out >the artwork at: > >http://www.xero.com/sp/new/ > >High quality pdf's, suitable for printing out, will also be made available >later. And, as stated above, a high-quality dump to DAT and CD will be >made on a high-end turntable soon enough and treed and traded out. That's >the only way it will be released, so rather than complain about what you >don't have, simply try to enjoy what you -do- have, which is some of the >best music the band has put out yet. :) > >8) So now what? > >If you haven't gotten the music yet, find a way to do so! Download the >mp3s, or find a friend or a stranger who's willing to make you a CDR or >cassette, or wait for the higher-quality tree & sign up for it. > >If you -have- gotten the music, do everything you can to get it out even >more. Burn copies for friends, upload it to servers that don't have it, >even try to get your local or student radio station to play some of it. >Talk about it, hype it up, & get it noticed. This has the potential to be >something very big in the music industry... > >Do NOT, however, sell this on ebay, or sell copies to people for more than >the cost of the media and postage (ideally you should do a B&P- see the >trading faq at http://www.spfc.org/tradingfaq.txt for more info). The band >spent plenty of money for the studio and vinyl to make this, and since >they're not making a single cent from it, no one else has any right to do >so, either. > >That's it for now- enjoy the music! Michael David Toth mtoth@neo.lrun.com mtoth@neo.rr.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:39:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Luther Blissett Subject: (exotica) check out the real OPEN POP STAR, Luther Blissett. http://www.mp3.com/blissett http://blissett.iuma.com Luther _________________________________________________________________________ la tua email gratuita e per sempre su http://www.freemail.it (anche POP3) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:21:55 -0700 From: "Ron Grandia" Subject: RE: (exotica) Exoti-Beatles on Live365.com I currently have one of Johan's Beatle mixes running on FeelthyMonkeyRadio - Prior to that, I had a collection of tunes culled from ExoticaRing disks, but that was starting to get a bit old. There are 3 of Johan's Fantastica programs on at the moment, so you may have to listen for a while before you get to the Beatles (this should not be a problem, as it's all great, wacky, exotic stuff.) Go to live 365 and search for "feelthy" and you'll get a link to the show or just go here: http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=feelthyradio Programs Running: Fantastica #49 Music to Scare Beatles Fans Fantastica #51 Superman and Bride Fantastica #52 Zounds 1 Playlists for Fantastica can be found here: http://gallery.uunet.be/Quiet/fantastica/urgent_frame.htm Enjoy! Ron Grandia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:38:33 +0200 (MEST) From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Pierre Henry Live James asked: >someone at the Vancouver record show was telling me about a Pierre Henry >album called "the Green Queen" or something like that. Anyone out there got >this? or know what's up with it? He said it was great but he hadn't heard of >y"Messe Pour Le temps Present", which I love. I also have some really >strange >one from the 60's with a reflective silver cover - it's really out-there, >and I have "Variations on a door and a sigh" which is not bad. >what else by this Pierre Henry should I be scrounging for????? The only one beside "Messe Pour Le temps Present" that i know is a 3LP Set "Apokalypse Des Johannes" from 68 .It has also a fantastic silver reflective cover. Maybe the same Record that you have ? When i remeber correctly "Apokalypse Des Johannes" was a live concert that goes for hours in Paris 68. The sound on the record is very experimental and extreme. You can forget a lot of that industrial stuff from the 7 and 8ties after hearing this. Entertainment Through Pain ! Never heard about "the Green Queen" Martin - -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:40:30 +0200 (MEST) From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) That taboo subject again... Brain wrote: >I have to bring up that controversial subject of which many people have and >will continue to have strong opinions... ie. Napster. I mention it as I >only this week "joined" this community. It all began when I saw a recent >German film a few weeks back with a song done in German by Francoise Hardy >called "Traume". Finding such a thing here is impossible, even while >Quebec is the most likely place if any you'd turn up her music in North >America. I asked a few contacts in Germany without much success as it turns >out there is almost nothing on CD of hers in German, and a used record >store there would be the only chance. Havent heard the song TRÄUME by her, but i am searching unsuccesful about a year for her LP called TRÄUME because i've been told there is the german Version from her brilliant "COMMENT TE DIRE ADIEU" on it. Btw On my french ep of that song there is also the english titel IT HURTS TO SAY GOODBYE written on the sleeve that maybe means there is also an english version out there. Anyone knows ? Martin - -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:34:06 -0700 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Quick question: there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone knows -- it's stereotypically used (in Hollywood comedies, etc., or popular discourse in general) to signify (and to make fun of) "Oriental" music, particularly Chinese or Japanese music indiscriminately lumped together. It's also the same little tinny-sounding phrase which opens The Vapors's "Turning Japanese." Now, I've always wondered: where does it come from? Is it an actual Chinese/Japanese melody? Something from the Mikado, perhaps? Or a George Formby tune? Thanks in advance, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:31:20 -0700 From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question Benito Vergara wrote: > Quick question: there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone > knows > Now, I've always wondered: where does it come from? Is it an actual > Chinese/Japanese melody? Something from the Mikado, perhaps? Or a George > Formby tune? I've ALWAYS wanted to know this... please someone, chime in with a good answer. - -Kevin - -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:37:23 -0400 From: "naile trismegistus" Subject: Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question > Benito Vergara wrote: > > Quick question: there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone > > knows I'll see you and raise you one. Where does the seven-note motif come from that is always used when the Indians attack in the old Westerns? :) Actually, I was just thinking about both of these the other day.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:36:48 -0400 From: Craig Carlson Subject: (exotica) Rawck in CT JB wrote: >I'll add the illustrious state of Connecticut to that list.....Bland as white >bread and boy, do they rawk! I got one word for you: WPKN Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Lenkei Subject: Re: (exotica) Sorry, no great records I can't say I mind attitude all that much if the price is right. A few months ago I bought about 30 ez albums from a clearance sale at a record store in Brooklyn. The owners statement to me as I hauled my purchases up to the counter was, "You've made some, ah, *unusual* selections there." Not quite believing what I was spending good money on. - - bruce > I used to work in a used record store where you'd be greeted with "What are > you buying this crap for?" when you come up with ez/exotica > > br cleve ++++++++++++++++++++ Lenkei Design Graphic Design www.lenkeidesign.com ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Visit The Exotica Review As many exotica/lounge record reviews as possible! on the web at: www.bway.net/~er ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 2000 19:00:04 -0700 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question At 05:34 PM 18-09-00 -0700,Ben wonders: >there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone knows ...the >same little tinny-sounding phrase which opens The Vapors's "Turning Japanese." >Now, I've always wondered: where does it come from? I believe it is from a Japanese folk tune, but I would have to check my CD to double check and to get the title. Stay tuned. Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Sep 2000 19:23:14 -0700 From: bag@hubris.net Subject: Re: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question At 05:34 PM 18-09-00 -0700,Ben wonders: >there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone knows ...the >same little tinny-sounding phrase which opens The Vapors's "Turning Japanese." >Now, I've always wondered: where does it come from? Well, the source I thought would confirm it does not include the motif. It did have other almost stereotypical Japanese tunes, but didn't hear that one. Sorry I chimed in without confirmation. Byron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:24:39 -0400 From: Lang Thompson Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Exoti-Beatles >vol 1 is my favorite. in vols 2 and 3, there are some quite loud and >"alternative" tracks. hardrock doesn't really fit in with novelty, i Is there a US source for these (or was it mentioned while I was snoozing)? LT - ------------------------------------------- Adventures In Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures.htm Outsider Music Mailing List http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/outsider.htm Documentary Sound http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/adventures/documentary.htm Full Alert Film Review http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:30:40 -0700 From: "Benito Vergara" Subject: RE: (exotica) nine-note "Oriental" melody question > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-exotica@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of bag@hubris.net > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:23 PM > At 05:34 PM 18-09-00 -0700,Ben wonders: > >there's this nine-note motif which I'm sure everyone knows ...the > >same little tinny-sounding phrase which opens The Vapors's "Turning > Japanese." > >Now, I've always wondered: where does it come from? > Well, the source I thought would confirm it does not include the > motif. It > did have other almost stereotypical Japanese tunes, but didn't hear that > one. Well, thanks for checking, Byron. I'm sure someone out there must know... Part of my interest is that I teach in an Asian American Studies department, and part of what I deal with are ethnic stereotypes and whatnot. But this is the only specifically *musical* "stereotype" I can think of -- that is, that little musical flourish already automatically denotes "Asian music." It's already musical shorthand of sorts. And the other reason I wanna know is that it's been bugging me for the longest time now... Man, it's gotta come from somewhere... A colleague of mine claims it's from Gilbert and Sullivan, but he's not sure. And as for the seven-note phrase associated with "Injuns:" I'm afraid I'm not even sure how it goes! Can you hum a few notes? =) Oh, and I got another one!!! It's those four notes that are played after someone, say, in a comedy skit, gets humiliated or embarrassed. Kind of like the musical "Doh!" (as said by Homer Simpson): it goes "wah wah wah waaaaahhhh." Know what I'm talking about? Does it come from vaudeville, perhaps? I just figure that if someone knows, it'll be on this list. Later, Ben http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/ ICQ# 12832406 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #800 *****************************