From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #822 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Friday, October 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 822 In This Digest: (exotica) [obit-nytimes] Julie London (exotica) Re: New Cool Collective (exotica) commercial plug -- Radio "Fantastica" on CD Re: (exotica) My First Julie London Memory (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! (exotica) My First Julie London Memory Re: (exotica) My Julie London Memory Re: (exotica) Jack Webb Re: (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory Re: (exotica) Book of Tiki / Exotica Connection Re: (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! (exotica) Book of Tiki / Exotica Connection (exotica) Mickey Rooney (exotica) Tiki / Exotica Music Re: (exotica) Mickey Rooney Re: Re: (exotica) My Julie London Memory Re: (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory (exotica) Re: GG Allin (exotica) Re: Ultra Chicks (exotica) Re: French translation Re: (exotica) Exotica "racism" (exotica) Pat Collins Re: (exotica) Tiki / Exotica Music Re: (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory (exotica) MP3 wins German future award Re: (exotica) Exotica "racism" (exotica) Re: Tiki / Exotica Music (exotica) Ultra Chicks (exotica) Mellotron Re: (exotica) Mellotron (exotica) Mary Mayo & The Midas Touch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:07:05 -0400 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: (exotica) [obit-nytimes] Julie London http://elvispelvis.com/julielondon.htm October 19, 2000,NYTimes Julie London, 74, Sultry Singer and Actress of 50\'s By DOUGLAS MARTIN Julie London, whose understated voice and striking honey-blond appearance made her one of the top female vocalists of the 1950\'s and 60\'s, died yesterday at a hospital in Los Angeles. She was 74. Miss London, who lived in the San Fernando Valley, suffered a stroke five years ago and was in poor health, a spokesman for Encino-Tarzana Regional Medical Center told The Associated Press. She was also an actress in scores of movies and television shows, including the popular role of Nurse Dixie McCall in \"Emergency!\" in the 1970\'s. Miss London went from playing bit parts in the early 1940\'s to starring roles and pin-up status among World War II servicemen. Then, in 1947, she married the actor Jack Webb, later famous on \"Dragnet,\" and stopped working to be a full-time wife and mother. After they divorced five years later, she became a serious singer under the tutelage of Bobby Troupe, a jazz musician and songwriter. Her first 45 single, released in 1955, was \"Cry Me a River,\" and it was included on her first album, \"Julie Is Her Name.\" More than three million copies of the album and single were sold. She made more than 30 albums. She was voted one of the top female vocalists of 1955, 1956 and 1957. On New Year\'s Eve 1959, she married Mr. Troupe, who died last year. Adjectives such as sexy, intimate, breathy, husky and suggestive were applied to her singing. The singer herself told Life magazine in 1957: \"It\'s only a thimbleful of a voice, and I have to use it close to the microphone. But it is a kind of oversmoked voice and it automatically sounds intimate.\" Her sound and her looks were closely intertwined. Most of her albums were graced by sultry, yet sophisticated pictures of her. Miss London was born as Julie Peck in Santa Rosa, Calif., on Sept. 26, 1926. Her parents, Jack and Josephine Peck formed a song and dance team in vaudeville and radio. In 1929, they moved to San Bernardino, where her parents had a radio show on which Julie sometimes appeared. In 1941, they moved to Los Angeles and she graduated from Hollywood Professional High School. She then took a job as an elevator operator in a department store where she was discovered by talent agent Sue Carol, the wife of the actor Alan Ladd. She appeared in her first film, \"Nabonga,\" in 1944, and began singing with the Matty Malnech Orchestra. She met Mr. Webb who was then in the Marine Corps. They married in 1947, and she gave up her budding movie career to become a full-time wife and mother. They had two daughters, Stacy and Lisa. They divorced in 1953. After meeting Mr. Troupe she began singing again, recovering some of what she called sagging confidence. Her movie career also revived. She starred as an alcoholic singer in the 1956 film \"The Great Man.\" She then starred or co-starred in \"Man of the West,\" \"Voice in the Mirror,\" \"The George Raft Story\" and \"The Third Voice.\" She composed the title song for \"Voice in the Mirror.\" In 1972, she began her role in \"Emergency!\" After the show ended in 1977, she did one last film before retiring from show business. She is survived by a daughter from her marriage to Mr. Webb, Lisa Breen of Manhattan Beach, Calif. She also left three children from her 39-year marriage to Mr. Troupe: a daughter, Kelly Ronick, and twin sons, Jody and Reese, all of Los Angeles. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:29:30 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) Re: New Cool Collective cheryl, Ton, please tell some more about the New Cool Collective: what genre is it? thanx! Johan - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:05:00 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) commercial plug -- Radio "Fantastica" on CD ever hear an episode of "Fantastica" on 365 or UrGent, and you like what you hear, and you want to hear it on CD? good news: all 51 episodes are now for sale on CD-R. for details, mail me off-list: PS: you can browse through detailed "Fantastica" track lists @ Virtual Fantastica: http://gallery.uunet.be/Quiet/fantastica/fantastica.htm Johan ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:10:20 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) My First Julie London Memory In a message dated 10/19/0 12:12:17 PM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: >Always loved Doris Day singing "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" Was >that Hefti's arrangements? Mel Henke? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:18:26 -0700 From: "Stephen W. Worth" Subject: (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! >The funny thing is, that I'm a foreigner to Americans myself. I remember >this film with Bing Crosby, he's wearing Lederhosen and is coming to >this little village in Bavaria (well... the film actually mixed up >Bavaria and Austria), where people are doing this Lederhosen slap dance, >and it is so funny! Stereotypes are great. If we didn't have them, our lives would be much blander. The differences between us are what makes us interesting. It's a shame that caricature has come to be associated with racism. The world has become too goddamn serious. When you can't laugh at yourself anymore, it's pretty sad. The most politically incorrect ride at Disneyland is It's A Small World. what does that say about us as a culture? Now that I've put that annoying song in your head for the rest of the day, I'll sit down and shut up. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 1021 Grandview, 2nd Floor Glendale, CA 91201 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) My First Julie London Memory Mel Henke had a version on La Dolce Henke which leads me to believe it Mel Henke is also on the TVtoons album with the commercial "See the USA" sung by Dinah Shore. Pass me a hanky for Julie Thanks Chuck - --- DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/19/0 12:12:17 PM, chuckmk@yahoo.com wrote: > > >Always loved Doris Day singing "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" > Was > >that Hefti's arrangements? > > Mel Henke? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:39:50 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) My Julie London Memory At 09:11 AM 10/19/00 -0700, chuck wrote: > >Seriously, Julie London was very special and I am sorry to hear of >her death. It's funny. Sometimes with these recording artists, I have a sense of them as real people who live and breathe and die. And sometimes I don't. With Miss London, I didn't until I heard about her husband's death last year. It somehow jogged my memory that they were both on Emergency. I remembered that she was and I remembered that he was but I didn't make the connection that they were married and both on the show. Imagining them both there - she a once very popular singer and he a singer and songwriter - - "slumming" like that on this less-than-stellar TV show. (It's less-than-stellar but very relaxing to watch. The closest thing to muzak that TV has ever produced.) I'm sure they were happy to have the work and felt grateful to their old pal Jack Webb for the work. And it looked like easy work or as easy as a TV show can be. But still, it must have been strange for both of them to be known as Nurse This and Doc That to all these people. And not be able to say "Do you know who I used to be?" That's what made them come alive in my imagination anyway. But I have my Julie albums and I'm actually about to make a couple of CDR's from them and she's about as alive for me as she ever was. And I'll play those CDR's for friends and end up making them copies. Or they'll go out and buy the old records and CD's and she'll live anew for them. At first I thought she was a bit of a joke, I must admit. The pretty white singer who gets all the glory while her more genuine sisters go unnoticed. But she's good. She made all those records with just her and a guitar. Or just a simple rhythm section. She was good. Btw, is Jack Webb still alive? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:05:05 EDT From: "Bruce Lenkei" Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Webb Jack Webb 1920-1982 - - bruce _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:12:34 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! "Stephen W. Worth" wrote: > The world has become too goddamn serious. When you can't laugh at yourself > anymore, it's pretty sad. 101% d'accord! > The most politically incorrect ride at Disneyland is It's A Small World. Is it? I always saw it as a manifestation of internationalism. I think "Pirates of the Carribean" is splendid incorrect, all that raping, slaughter and murdering, and no police to stop 'dem pirates. Great. Ho, ho, ho, ho... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:12:44 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory chuck wrote: > Around 1962 I was in awe of the lovely Miss Eddie Adams who told me > about Muriel Cigars, "Why don't you pick one up and smoke it > sometime" Maybe she was the cause of the cigar fad of the 1980s. > > Always loved Doris Day singing "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" Was > that Hefti's arrangements? > > And whoever sang in the mid 60s "Come Alive, Come Alive, you're in > the Pepsi generation, has the most fantastic voice! > > The sexiest girl in ads for me as a kid was the Noxema(sp) Girl who > around 1966 said: "Take it off, take it all off, nothing takes it > off like Noxema" I remember a vinyl 45 put out around '66 or '67 with about 5, 6 different versions of that Coca Cola song "things go better with..." One version wa= s by the Diana Ros & the Supremes, one - as far as I can remember - by Dave De= e & Co, but then memory fades... Then there was of course Harry Belafonte with his "Caf=E9 de Tschibo", th= e one that he spent the money he got from it for some liberation army. Most stars though didn't actually sing in commercials. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:12:59 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Book of Tiki / Exotica Connection chuck wrote: > Finally got the chance to page through the book last night. It > really is fantastic! Glad you like it. > Say a picture of a Frank Checkersfield exotica flavored cover in > the book. Is this lp Exotica with a capital E or is it striaght > ahead easy listening? ??? I don't know what you mean. Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:23:10 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Ignorant Cultural Stereotyping... I LIKE IT! "Stephen W. Worth" wrote: > Stereotypes are great. If we didn't have them, our lives would be much > blander. The differences between us are what makes us interesting. It's > a shame that caricature has come to be associated with racism. The world > has become too goddamn serious. When you can't laugh at yourself anymore, > it's pretty sad. When I moved to Tokyo back in the late Eighties, I was really surprised to see the classic caricature of the Japanese guy with the thick glasses and buck teeth (see Jerry Lewis or Wayno's cover of the Chop Suey Rock LP). It turned up everywhere; manga, advertisements, television. The Japanese found it hilarious. That being said, I've seen some caricatures and stereotypes that I do find to be quite offensive. I think it largely depends on the context in which you find them. Unfortunately, context is often pretty subjective. Aside to Mo: The last time I was in Bavaria, I was at a party where they brought in a bunch of guys in Lederhosen to dance the Schuhplattler and crack bullwhips in time with accordion music. Sehr Kuhl! - -- Matt (Mmm, Schweinhaxen!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Book of Tiki / Exotica Connection There was a picture of an lp in the Book of Tiki. The lp was by the Frank Chacksfield Orchestra, I can't remember if there was a title. It was a picture of a typical normal family experiencing a Tiki event. I never heard of Frank Chacksfield doing an exotica lp. He's most famous for the song, Ebb Tide. I have some of his lps and read about him in Lanza's book "Elevator Music" and he made lush instrumental easy listening music. I'm hoping there are some bird calls or other exotica bits on this lp. Chuck - --- Moritz R wrote: ??? I don't know what you mean. > > Mo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:46:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Risser Subject: (exotica) Mickey Rooney Someone mentioned that Mickey Rooney playing the Japanese dude in Breakfast at Tiffany's was racist. Is this because of the casting, or was his performance, er, stereotypical of the time? I mean, if he played a nice genteel well-mannered person that happened to be Japanese, I'm guessing that would just be acting. But I haven't seen the movie, though I'm remembering someone casting that character as "annoying". Peter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Tiki / Exotica Music Of all the songs connected with Tiki/Exotica, I personally believe none were more played than Yellow Bird. When I was a little boy it seemed that Lawerence Welk's Yellow Bird was on every juke box. I can remember hearing it and playing it in all kinds of resturants. The Navy Steel Band once told me in the late 70s it was their most requested song. Before I got into exotica I thought Welk had the hit of this song. I'm not saying Welk's version is the best, just that I heard it the most. I also remember that Harry Belefonte's 1959 album, "Belefonte at Carnegie Hall, was on the carts for a phenomenal number of weeks. This Carribean influence on the Tiki culture just mixed right in perfectly. I was in Melborne Florida, right south of Cape Canaveral last week for the Brian Wilson Pet Sounds Tour and experienced lots of Tiki sightings. My favorite was a Tiki Mailbox on the side of the street for the mailman to put the mail in. We saw Tikis every where; in little corner bars, front yards,... it was paradise. I'm surprised NASA didn't incorporate the Tiki emblems into its program. I could just see giant Tikis sorounding and supporting the rocketship on the launch pad before it takes off. Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:33:40 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Mickey Rooney At 01:46 PM 10/19/00 -0700, Peter Risser wrote: > >Someone mentioned that Mickey Rooney playing the >Japanese dude in Breakfast at Tiffany's was racist. Let's be accurate at least. Enough of us collect soundtracks that we can call "the Japanese dude" by his proper name. Mr. Yunioshi. Now, was that racist? Yes. Undoubtedly. Inarguably. The Japanese may indeed enjoy the stereotypes foisted upon them but stereotypes like Mr.Yunioshi are inherently "racist". It seems to me like the backlash against "political correctness" has gone so far that now, for some people, they have to see someone hanging from a tree before they'll use that dirty six-letter word. I live in one of the world's centres of political correctness and I have suffered for it and railed against it. Yeah it goes overboard. But if you look at Mickey Rooney's caricature of a Japanese man and you can't call it racist, then maybe you don't know what the word means Japanese are so funny when they get mad. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:12:46 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) My Julie London Memory In a message dated 10/19/0 3:41:05 PM, azed@pathcom.com wrote: >Btw, is Jack Webb still alive? died on a Friday about 15 years ago # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:14:36 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory In a message dated 10/19/0 4:09:12 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: >Dave Dee & Co, but then memory fades... That would be Dave Dee Dozy Doe Mick and Tick I thimk..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:21:20 -0400 From: Brian Karasick Subject: (exotica) Re: GG Allin BR wrote: >As JimmyBee pointed out, both Vermont & New Hampshire can be very >conservative but I find NH to be much more reactionary than VT (after all, >Pat Buchanan beat out George Bush in the primaries there a few years back!) OK that about seals it up for me. I think I may look around with a bit more suspicion when I visit New Hampshire! Can't pass up that NH liquor store though... Strange they sell a lot of red wine for a place that would consider electing the likes of Pat Buchanan... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:58:26 -0400 From: Brian Karasick Subject: (exotica) Re: Ultra Chicks Leslie wrote: >PS - Just got Ultra Chicks Vol 1 and 3 last week While we're on the subject, volume 5 of Ultra Chicks is now out. I happened to find it by chance while visiting the store owned by the guy that produced the series, here in Montreal, and there it was, along with a copy of Nymphomania Vol.3 . I've had a few reaction to it and so far all in agreement with me that this is the strongest of the Ultra Chicks series. I know many would pass it up figuring they must have run out of material by now.. but no - a pleasant surprise! As for Nymphomania, the third is definitely less interesting than the first two but still nothing to sneeze at... Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:07:26 -0400 From: Brian Karasick Subject: (exotica) Re: French translation Ben wrote: >This reminds me of a quote by lapsed anglophone, >Samuel Beckett who when asked why he switched over to >French replied: "parce qu'en francais, c'est plus >facile d'ecrire sans style. >"In any event it might be amusing to argue that English is >more precise than French. I see what you mean although precise and formal aren't necessarily the same. Still, a richer vocabulary can be more precise as you have more words to describe things more exactly. In my business there are at least a dozen different phrases to describe variations of what in English we call a simple "site plan" all of them actually more precise than what we have to make up in English to say the same thing. Also, French has retained much of what English has lost over the past centuries and has become a lot more utilitarian in its application, perhaps more a comment on the cultures that modified it than the language itself. French still retains a lot of the formality of the Victorian era. The standard formal ending to a business letter in English we all know as "Sincerely, Your truly, etc. but in French it should read "Nous vous prions d'accepter, Monsieur (Madame) nos saluations distinguees" See what I mean... Poets and advertising people alike do a lot of manipulation of language and I've seen equally witty examples in both languages. But the sheer volume of descriptive words in French probably allows this language a much richer palette for such use. Lots of good examples in French, from Gainsbourg to Bobby Lapointe and fewer equivalents come to mind in English, Ken Nordine's "Colors" for one... Speaking of language and music though, I've had a long standing argument with several Francophones here who cannot listen to songs done by French singers in other languages, particularly German. I can't agree myself, but the argument they use is it just sounds harsh and irritating to their ears. French does sound smooth and soft in comparison but its all in what you're used to and how open you are to something new (actually I now am listening to Polnareff doing his hit "La poupee qui fait non" in German and here for once I can agree with the critics!) I think the term "its all in the ear of the beholder" is appropriate... Brian (Schlager purveyor to the unsuspecting world) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:34:57 -0400 From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica "racism" Moritz wrote: >In most cases though I think exotica only reflects the naivity and >primitivity of white westerners themselves - naivity and primitivity in a >bad as well as in a good sense Absolutely! Disneyland was Walt Disney's take on the world in a time when people didn't know all that much about each other. Sure it's naive but I challenge anyone to go through "Its a Small World" and not leave feeling good! Its a view of the world I sometimes in the back of my mind wish still existed given some of the ugliness we see these days! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:07:40 -0700 From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Pat Collins Hey! Does anyone know what's happened to Pat Collins - The Hip Hypnotist since she recorded her album Turn On? Did she make more records? The album is a scream....!!! Side One is her letting you in on how you can "Turn on" to the backing of a small jazz combo. Side two is her singing..... yoiks!!! Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:14:21 -0700 From: Kevin Crossman Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki / Exotica Music chuck wrote: > Of all the songs connected with Tiki/Exotica, I personally > believe none were more played than Yellow Bird. More than Quiet Village? The Exotic Trilogy CDs didn't include Yellow Bird... That said, Yellow Bird is certainly a well-played and covered song... - -Kevin - -- *********************************************************** * Kevin Crossman kevin@kevdo.com * * http://www.kevdo.com - The Narrow Interest Portal * * Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive * *********************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:36:27 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) commercials (was: My First Julie London Memory DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/19/0 4:09:12 PM, moritz@derplan.com wrote: > > >Dave Dee & Co, but then memory fades... > > That would be Dave Dee Dozy Doe Mick and Tick I thimk..... :-). Misinterpretation. My memory faded on the further groups on that record. Not on the further bandmembers of Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich, one of my childhood's favorite groups. Were they ever big in the US? Here they had hit after hit: Hold Tight, Save Me, Last Night in Soho, Wreck of the Anoinette, The Legend of Xanadu, Zabadak.... even kind of exotic. Oh, and Bend It, of course, the song that Gilbert & George made a video for, ever seen that? Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:41:19 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) MP3 wins German future award Der Preis des Bundespr=E4sidenten f=FCr Technik und Innovation, kurz unte= r dem Label Deutscher Zukunftspreis gef=FChrt, geht in diesem Jahr an die Erfinder der Audio-Kompressionstechnik MP3. Ausgezeichnet wurden drei Mitarbeiter des Fraunhofer-Instituts f=FCr Integrierte Schaltungen IIS-A: Prof-Dr. Prof. Karlheinz Brandenburg Dipl.-Ing. Bernhard Grill und Dipl.-Ing. Harald Popp. babelfish: The price of the Federal President for technique and innovation, briefly under the label German future price led, goes in this year to the inventors of the audio compression technique MP3. was distinguished three coworkers of the institute for Fraunhofer for integrated circuits IIS-A: Prof Dr. Professor Karlheinz Brandenburg Dipl. Ing. Bernhard Grill and Dipl. Dipl.-Ing. Harald Popp. :-) Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:50:33 -0400 From: itsvern@ibm.net Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica "racism" > Absolutely! Disneyland was Walt Disney's take on the world in a time when > people didn't know all that much about each other. Sure it's naive but I > challenge anyone to go through "Its a Small World" and not leave feeling > good! Disney's 'It's a Small World' ride reminds me a bit of the Miss U.S.A. beauty pageant. Especially the part where all the contestants are introduced wearing some costume that represents their state - thus Miss Maine will be wearing a giant lobster outfit, Miss Texas will be wearing a cowgirl outfit, Miss Florida will be all decked out in oranges, etc. etc. The 'It's a Small Ride' identifies different nationalities by similar themed costumes - the French girls will be wearing fancy 'can-can dancer' outfits, the Japanese will be wearing their kimonos, grass skirted hula dancers will represent the South Pacific. I see nothing wrong with this. There's nothing wrong with identifying some product or outfit with a certain country. It does become a problem though, when one assumes that the costume is the norm for that country and that everyone dresses or acts that way. A friend of mine recently took a 3 month trip to Africa. At one point her group came upon a rural village that had the look and feel of a set from an old Tarzan movie, and some of the tourists became excited, saying that this was 'the real Africa' that they had been waiting for. The tour guide set them straight. He pointed out that the 'real Africa' was more represented by the everyday city-like areas that they had just come from, and that the 'real Africa', where most people lived and worked, looked pretty much the same as any other modern industrialized city. Back in the prime days of the circus sideshow, before the advent of television, the promoters would often hire a local black man, dress him up as a Zulu warrior or some wild outfit that usually included a spear, and tell him to jump and grunt and yell once in awhile. The audience would often leave these shows and assume that all Africans were wild and acted uncivilized. So the question is does exotica represent more of a playful 'Miss Maine lobster' representation, or is it closer to the old circus sideshow representations. I would say an exotica LP is generally neutral - but racism can be introduced by how the individual looking at the cover or listening to the music interprets it. One person will see a LP cover depicting 'savages boiling the singer in a big pot' and be able to dismiss it simply as a funny joke and understand that it is probable that noone was ever actually boiled in a big pot. Others will see it as a confirmation that other areas of the world are barbaric and need to become civilized. By the way, this past April I was in Paris and a real highlight was visiting EuroDisney and taking the 'It's a Small World Ride' - twice ......there are giant tikis represented there right next to the Dancing hula girls. Vern # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:04:34 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki / Exotica Music Hi Kevin I really am convinced that if you asked a group of 60 year old on up people to hum the melody of Quiet Villiage or hum Yellow Bird that Yellow Bird is the better known song. Quiet Villiage was a bigger chart hit and certainly was an influential song. Yellow Bird stayed around a long time on radio and juke boxes and somehow seeped into Americana Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck - --- Kevin Crossman wrote: > chuck wrote: > > Of all the songs connected with Tiki/Exotica, I personally > > believe none were more played than Yellow Bird. > > More than Quiet Village? > > The Exotic Trilogy CDs didn't include Yellow Bird... > > That said, Yellow Bird is certainly a well-played and covered > song... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:17:48 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Ultra Chicks I have been playing Vol 5 a lot and agree with you completely Brian! Ultra Chicks Vol 5 is the best of the series! Chuck - --- Brian Karasick wrote: > While we're on the subject, volume 5 of Ultra Chicks is now out. > I happened to find it by chance while visiting the store owned by > the guy that produced the series, here in Montreal, and there it was, along with a copy of Nymphomania Vol.3 . I've had a few reaction to it and so far all in agreement with me that this is the strongest of the Ultra Chicks series. I know many would pass it up figuring they must have run out of material by now.. but no - - a pleasant surprise! As for Nymphomania, the third is definitely less interesting than the first two but still nothing to sneeze at... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:31:16 -0400 From: Peter Gingerich Subject: (exotica) Mellotron a friend wrote thus: Have you heard of this --> >Have you got Pea Hicks' Mellotron CD? It's a series odd promotional >recordings that came with the keyboard...? Any info out there? Anything to do with the mellotron (links, cds, classic examples) would be appreciated too. thanx, pg in nyc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:02:50 PDT From: "jonathan richardson" Subject: Re: (exotica) Mellotron > >Have you got Pea Hicks' Mellotron CD? It's a series odd promotional > >recordings that came with the >keyboard...? Im not sure about the Mellotron, but I know that Pea has a new recording out which features the Optigan which was basically a childs toy. Pea somehow has created 2 albums using this "toy". I personally havent heard either one, only because I cant seem to find one, but I do have Pea's cd, Lucas and Friends which is a must. An idea which I always had in the back of my mind. I eagerly await a volume II on that one. As for the Mellotron one, I dont know, but if it comes from Pea Hicks, its gonna be good. BTW is he still out there lurking somewhere on the list? - -jonny _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: chuck Subject: (exotica) Mary Mayo & The Midas Touch I picked up an lp by the band The Midas Touch on the Decca label from 1970. The liner notes on the back said the vocals are "colored a bright blue" by the voice of Mary Mayo. The lp is a stich above choir vocal lps from 1970 and one song on it "Viva" written by Lam just is solid great exotica! Not just choir at all! All that is needed were some bird sounds to top it off! Thanks Alan for coining the term "choir" I picked up another lp a year or so ago with Mary Mayo. Can't remember the name but it was light classical/pop songs by her and 2 tenors. The liner notes on that spoke about Mary Mayo's fame and appearances on TV including the Jack Parr show (Jack Parr hosted the tonight show before Johnny Carson) Her voice on this rocks! Any other Mary Mayo stuff out there? besides the great "Moon Gas" Easy listening in the Big Easy Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #822 *****************************