From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #865 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Tuesday, January 9 2001 Volume 02 : Number 865 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 7 (exotica) tokyo & bootlegs (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update (exotica) Thai Elephant Orchestra Re:(exotica) Info: Berlin... (exotica) 1950s Library Music? (exotica) Playlist "Casa Nostra" 1.5.01 (exotica) ukulele player wanted (exotica) Fernsehprogramm vom Montag, den 8. Januar 2001 (exotica) bedazzled tonight (exotica) Ken Burns's Jazz (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz (exotica) wynton marsalis *is* jazz! Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz (exotica) La Paloma Re: (exotica) La Paloma Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:10:54 EST From: Tipsydave@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire Actually, I just saw an astonishingly stacked blonde (I missed her name) performing the same song on one of the spanish-language networks, and there's a latin/dance version by Lailo(?) w/Gloria Gaynor as well, so there are three recent, spanish-language versions of this song. go figure. - -dave In a message dated 1/5/01 5:24:35 PM, risser@cinci.rr.com writes: << I solved my own problem. It's by Celia Cruz. While this looks like some chick, it seems to actually be a rave-up Cubano band. It's a great booty-shakin' version. Look it up! Peter > I was in Orlando, on the way to Disneyworld and heard a rockin' Cubano > version of I Will Survive in Spanish. Who did it? Anyone? I'm sure it's > modern, but I have no idea where to look or who to ask. Is anyone on this > list into modern Hispanic music, and might know what I'm talking about? >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:50:16 -0500 From: cheryl Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, January 7 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #124 Arjan's #1 This week, we're playing a compilation put together by Arjan (for the Exotica Ring), and it's really great - a real mix of everything from ye-ye to humppa. Tune in and hear it for yourself! Skatalites: Ska-ra-van Eilart Pilarm: In The Ghetto The Motivations: The Birds France Gall: On Se Resemble Toi Et Moi Aavikko: Alas Volgaa Aavikko: Boa King Stitt: Lee Van Cleef Mieskuoro Huutajat: The Starspangled Banner Impact All Stars: Extraordinary Version Leningrad Cowboys & Alexandrov Red Army Ensemble: Gimme All Your Lovin' The Treble Spankers: Popcorn Francoise Hardy: Reve Elakaleiset: Hump Billy Miranda: Go Ahea Ennio Morricone: Ci Risiamo, Vero Provvidenza? Lord Kitchener: Cricket Champions The Spiders: Ozewiezowoze The Swanks: Ghost Train The Ran-dells: Martian Hop Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening. cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:25:18 +0800 From: "william" Subject: (exotica) tokyo & bootlegs i tried to post this before but it got bounced back. hopefully it makes it through this time. hi all, i'm going to be heading to tokyo from the 19-23rd so any suggestions for japanese only re-issues that i should be on the lookout for? or anything else i should consider splurging on? mark d. head what was that 5th garden release you were telling me about? also a question about bootlegs. is there any way to tell if a cd is a bootleg or not? one of my students told me that if it doesn't have an IFPI number then it is a bootleg. but if this is true, some of my cds i thought were bootlegs are not and some that i thought weren't bootlegs are. anyone out there know anything about this? i've been enjoying the ray coniff thread. i have certain misgivings about ray coniff though. how is the christmas album? i saw the cd for 5 or 6 bucks u.s. today. is it worth picking up at that price? incidentally i saw this while picking up this double nancy sinatra best of that was released on one of the bigger taiwan record labels (rock records) in 97. the lyrics are even translated into chinese. but no really cool pictures or anything. but i'm not complaining as it was just a little over 10 bucks u.s.:) william in taipei. ps. i believe my first purchase of 2001 was the p5 in the bag vinyl collectors set. this was a package released in japan only. a vinyl bag, with 4 12" records and 2 7" records. it appears that there is some serious cribbing going on on the 12" records. in the past i had told myself i was going to pass on this p5 release. but my resistance weakened. and at least this way i am forced to buy a turntable.:) i guess my vinyl days aren't quite over after all # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:55:08 -0500 From: Citizen Kafka Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz Hi, everyone, I agree that almost anyone would have done a fairer, more balanced presentation of jazz. Did Burns use the "monster star" approach in "Baseball?" I have heard that George Gershwin was not mentioned. If that is true, then Wynton Marsalis and company (Ken Burns wouldn't know better) are really biased beyond reason. A substantial number of bebop tunes were based on the chord structure of pop standards like "i've got rhythm." To discuss this does not detract from the towering accomplishments of Bird and Diz one iota (they are heroes of mine), but to avoid/deny/omit it is shabby, biased history at best, and conscious prevarication. the more i think about the omissions the more i am annoyed. as my friend Matt points out, this series will certainly do more to catapult jazz into the general public's interest than any other event of the past 30 years, and generate sales of records, books, and videos. On the other hand, it is being touted as the complete and all-encompassing story of jazz, and it isn't, by a long shot. i will reserve judgement on a host of other issues until i see it... citizen kafka - -- Listen ANY TIME at: http://www.citizenkafka.com/sma/sound/soundmain.html Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air" every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:56:26 -0500 From: "Risser Family" Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz That's funny, because it totally doesn't sound like a woman. Peter > Celia Cruz is generally considered the queen of latin music. She's now in her > 70s, and she's still active; Yo Vivire is from Siempre Vivire, one of five > albums she released last year (I think she has about100 albums out). She's > amazing. > -dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:53:48 -0600 (CST) From: Kerry Keane Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Walter Keane On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Moritz R wrote: > > > > Matt Marchese schrieb: > > > Lou Smith wrote: > > > > Last summer I was fortunate enough to see the Margaret > > Keane retrospective at > > the Laguna Art Museum in Laguna Nigel, California. > > Envy! Is there a catalogue from that show? Yes, there is. I work for an art library, and I ordered one over the phone from them. There was a page at their site that listed the catalogs they have: http://www.lagunaartmuseum.org I couldn't find the page that listed the catalogs and prices, but anyone who wants a catalog could call and ask. It looks like a really interesting museum. - -- Kerry Keane (no relation) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:40:37 +0100 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update A new update to the "eXotica Releases Overview" is available. These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced or reviewed in the Exotica List, plus older items with new comments. (If you would like to receive the unabridged updates on a regular base by e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my " eXotica Releases Overview updater") - January 6: new releases, announcements, and corrections - * The Lorraine Bowen Experience: "Bossy Nova" o CD, Sequined Skirt, UK, 2000 * Hypnomen: "Watusi" o CD, MuSick Recordings MU 0014, USA, 2000 CD, Humppa 017, Germany, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: Very Good! Great, though maybe these guys should decide what kind of music they want to make: Davie Allan imitations (like at least 5 out of the 14 tracks), or more adventurous cocktails, like on the other tracks: funky breakbeat-boogaloo, powerpop-surf, exotic twang... + Reviewed in "Cool And Strange Music Magazine" issue 16 * Ennio Morricone: "Morricone 2001" o CD/LP, Dagored, Italy, 2000 * Various Artists: "Blow Up Presents Exclusive Blend Volume 3" o CD/Double LP, Blow Up, UK, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: EXCELLENT!! For this 3rd volume, Paul Tunkin croossed the channel, and visited the French music library "Telemusic". The result is a loungecore collection with a definite French flavor, and much more variation than the previous 2 volumes. Sometimes funky, on 1 sitar track slightly oriental, and on another 13+ minutes of prog EZ, but always with a big production sound. Also includes 2 very French, heavenly female wordless vocal tracks. Compositions by Guy Pederson and Bernard Estardy fill most of this CD. Pederson is better composition-wise, writing better melodies arrangements, while Estardy sounds remarkably modern, groovy in a repetitive way, with Moogish effects, and a total sound not unlike today's "breakbeat" artists. 16 tracks, 55 minutes total. Highly recommended! * Various Artists: "Jungle Jazz" o Double LP, ?, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Stefan Kery of Subliminal Sounds: A hot selection of jazzy jungle tracks selected by the young but experienced Italian dj Matteo Sola. * Various Artists: "More Delicious Spaghetti Western" o CD, Dagored 115, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Johan: follow-up to "My Delicious Spaghetti Western", with some well-known Spaghetti Western film music by Ennio Morricone (My name is nobody; Tepepa; I crudeli), Piero Piccioni, Luis Bacalov (Django), Armando Trovajoli, Riz Ortolani. * SOUNDTRACK: "77 Sunset Strip" by Warren Barker o CD, WEA 247762, Germany, 2000 * SOUNDTRACK: "Zombi" (Dawn of the Dead) by Goblin o Double LP, Dagored 117, Italy, 2000 CD, Cinevox MDF 308, Italy, 2000 o comment: + Johan: My rating: Good. The LP is on 180 gram vinyl, in a gatefold sleeve, and includes a repro of the original film poster. The music is typical for Goblin's scores for Argento horror flicks: prog-rock, sometimes resembling Pink Floyd. * SOUNDTRACK: "The Italian Job" by Quincy Jones o CD, MCA/Island 112488, UK, 2000 - January 6: more or less recent (1999) stuff - * The Hammertoes: "I Too Have Sinned" o CD, Tortuga Records 0361, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * Al Garcia and The Rhythm Kings: "Exotic Rockin' Instrumentals, 1963-1964" o CD,Dionysus Records BA 1135, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * The Nuclear Whales Saxopphone Orchestra: "Fathom This" (A retrospective) o CD, Whaleco Music WM 105, USA, 1999 o comment: + Johan: See their web site: http://www.nuclearwhales.com/ + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 * Swingerhead: "She Might Be A Spy" o CD, Colossal COL98-0001, USA, 1999 o comment: + Reviewed in Cool And Strange Music Magazine issue 15 - January 6: other interesting finds I stumbled on - * Gilberto Gil: "Gilberto Gil" (1968) o CD, PolyGram 518121, Brazil, 1998 o comment: + Johan: reissue of his 1968 "Tropicalia" LP album (Philips 765.024), plus 4 bonus tracks, one of them with Os Mutantes. * The Jethros: "Love Musix" o CD, Jethros, USA, 2000? o comment: + Johan: Tracks: 1 - Love Will Keep Us Together. 2 - Your Cheatin' Heart 3 - Sweet Caroline. 4 - Light My Fire 5 - Loving You. 6 - Unchained Melody 7 - You're Having My Baby. 8 - Close To You 9 - Town Without Pity. 10 - I Can't Control Myself 11 - Delila. 12 - 96 Tears 13 - I Think We're Alone Now. 14 - Like A Virgin 15 - You're Something Special To Me (Shagg's cover). Available from thejethros.com/ for $16. * Silver Apples: "Silver Apples" (or "Silver Apples/ Contact") o CD, MCA CD MCAD-11680, 1997 o comment: + Tom Rombouts: CD reissue of two late 60's LP's by New York based electronic pioneering duo Silver Apples. The first nine tracks are the 1968 LP "Silver Apples" and the second nine are the 1969 LP "Contact" Booklet includes original artwork, photos, and brief interview with duo member Simeon. (Note - same audio material without booklet issued on CD as TRC 039 in 1994) Total time 73 minutes. Kind of a cross between early electronica and psychedelia. Maybe a stretch, but to me similar in some ways to Bruce Haack but not as whimsical. Duo featured a homemade oscillator with many wires, meters and dials, and an elaborate percussion setup. If you ignore the vocals, much of this anticipated today's techno music including some sampling of non-musical background sounds. However, since the oscillator could only be set to produce a few tones at a time, some of the riffs can get repititious. The second nine tracks were more elaborately produced, and have a wider range of styles and sounds including a banjo at times. Personally I would give it ++++ out of five, but keep in mind I am a big psyche fan. Detailed history of Silver Apples (including a late 90's comeback) at www.allmusic.com/ * Les Tambours De Brazza: "Zangoula" o CD, Contre-Jour/ Munich cj007, ?, 2000? * The Jethros: "The Dark Side of the Xmas Tree II" o CD-R, Jethros, USA, 199? o comment: + Johan: Has the same songs as on the deleted Arf! Arf! compilation "", plus ALL their new xmas songs! ... all 4 of them. + Lou Smith: You can get The Dark Side of the Xmas Tree II (CDR only for the moment) from thejethros.com/Musix.html for $16. * Various Artists: "The Elevator Collection" o CD, ?, USA?, 199? o comment: + Jerry Larson: a too-short (!!) CD with these tracks: 1) Harlem Nocturne - Esquivel (2) Moon Is Blue, The - Sauter-Finnegan (3) Moonlight In Vermont - Hugh Winterhalter (4) Night Train - Buddy Morrow (5) Stars Fell On Alabama - The Three Suns ( 6) Teach Me Tonight - Ann-Margaret (7) Blue Moon - Melachrino Strings (8) Some Enchanted Evening - Ralph Flanagan (9) That Old Black Magic - Marty Gold & Orchestra (10) Three O'Clock In The Morning - Hugo & Luigi Chorus * Various Artists: "The Exotic Mood of Chaotic VooDoo! Riot In The Jungle" o CD, Mom and Dad Records (Roots Of Punk), ?, 1993 o comment: + Brian Linds: It's a Cd full of great Voodoo and Jungle music excluding the first 25 minutes which is aggrivating feedback from a guitar. The people who put out the Cd tried to hide the fact that it was on there by starting the track listings at #2. produced by Naohiro Ukawa/Toru Terasima. The cover of this Cd is a fold out of great pictures of a naked Voodoo woman, a chicken, and skull. It's cool! Here's the listing... (2) Voo-Doo Incantation - Richard Hayman (3) Roots of Jazz - Prince onago and Princess muana (4) Whistling Bongos - Chaino (5) African Cry Baby - Prince onago and Princess muana (6) That's How She Wlks - Guy warren (7) Afro - Richard Hayman (8) My Athem - Guy warren (9) The Warriors Chant - Princess onago and... (10) Voo-Doo Bamboos - Chaino (11) Calypso Blues - berkley "Peanuts" Taylor (12) Voo-Doo mambo - Cyril " Afro Drums" Jackson (13) Sumac (soo mak) - Chaino (14) Thunder Orgy - Original sound Track Of " Dingaka" (15) Black Doll - Prince onago and Princess... (16) When The Saints Go marching In - Prince onago and Princess...(this is (unbelievable) (17) Tarzan - Don Randi Trio (18) Tropical Safari- Don randi trio (19) Ceremonial Rain Dance - Don Randi Trio (Kee-Ka-Roo - walter Wanderley (01) Live 82 April 12 Studio Ahiru-Osaka - Hanatarash >>> most comments by members of the Exotica Newsletter, >>> members of the Popnouveau Newsletter, >>> from Jack Diamond Music sale lists >>> and Subliminal Sounds sale lists >>> Additions & corrections are more than welcome! >>> The "XRO" is a discography, NOT a sale catalog! The eXotica Releases Overview is part of "Dada's Exotiquarium": http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada1 Johan Dada Vis quiet@village.uunet.be # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:30:03 +0100 From: "Arjan Plug" Subject: (exotica) Thai Elephant Orchestra from News of the Weird # 674 The debut CD from the Thai Elephant Orchestra (Lampang, Thailand) was scheduled for December release, featuring six pachyderm prodigies playing crude versions of traditional instruments (drum, gong, bass, xylophone) and recorded intact, without overdubbing, to create music that (in the words of a New York Times writer) "strike(s) some Western listeners as haunting, others as monotonous." The CD's American producers, pointing to much academic research on elephants' natural musical abilities, said they plan a second album ("easy-listening," engineered, they said, to make it more accessible to a wider audience). [New York Times, 12-16-00] Arjan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:26:42 -0500 From: Brian Karasick Subject: Re:(exotica) Info: Berlin... Moritz wrote: >Delicious Doughnuts, Rosenthaler Strasse 9 (Mitte) ab 21 Uhr. One more reason why Berlin is my favourite city (OK next to Paris)! The name of this place is a play on DDR (Deutsche Demokratische Republik - ie East Germany) and it is appropriately located in the now very hip Mitte district of the once very unhip (at least since WW2) East Berlin. This area reminds me of SoHo back in the early days. I say this as a good part of the Mitte district was still in "post war - communist laissez faire" state but if the development continues at the pace it was going during our visit last year, by now there's a good chance it is completely transformed. I can still remember visiting this area before the wall came down and it was quite a different place back then. Brian (confirmed Berlin-fanatic) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:49:33 GMT From: pinwhiz@pop.ihug.co.nz Subject: (exotica) 1950s Library Music? Apologies if I posted this message here before - but my post never showed up so I'll try again.... A local 2nd Hand Dealer here in Auckland, New Zealand has for sale part of the Inhouse Production Music Library that used to belong to the New Zealand Radio Broadcasting Corporation (Our equivilent of BBC Radio) There are boxes & boxes of these records and they all appear to date from 1950 to 1958. All are 78rpm & many appear to be single sided. Most are on English Labels and appear to have been made especially for Radio Production use and most of the labels seem to have used the same house band on each record. They all appear to be music rather than just sound effects. While many of the records are things like swing, waltz, etc some look more interesting. There are whole series of records like "Exotic Places" with titles like "Persian Market", "Orient Nights" etc & a whole series for use on Childrens programs with titles like "Pixes Dance" etc. The problem I have is that the dealer wants $3NZ each for these and as these are 78s with only 1 or 2 tracks per record the price is above my normal "buy it to see what it sounds like" level. (There are a few records with "Rock&Roll" type tracks on them which I think has made the dealer involved put a premium on all the records.) Does anyone out there know anything about 1950s production music?? Or know anything about the labels who produced I know the 1960s & 70s era stuff has been widely mined for recent compilations but the earlier stuff is a mystery to me. Cheers Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:41:38 EST From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Playlist "Casa Nostra" 1.5.01 "Casa Nostra" airs on 88.1FM WMBR Cambridge MA @ MIT from Midnight-2 Fridays "Casa Nostra" plays loungecore, breakbeat, e-z house, softpop & exotica from Space Age to Bass Age "Casa Nostra" is hosted and produced by James Botticelli (THANX FOR READING) Cecil Holmes Soulful Sounds-2001 Les Gammas-Service Mr. Bond Hugo Montenegro-The Shark (from Lady In Cement) Lego-Contemplation Stacy Kidd-Jazzy Dayz (Chicago House track) Ted Heath-Johnny One-Note Russ Garcia Orchestra-Lost Souls On Saturn Cubismo Grafico-Salon Sunday Mohawks-Soul Organ Jacknife Lee-Sweet Potato Brass Impact-On My Mind Nicola Conte-Il Cerchio Rosso Senor Coconut-Trans Europe Express Chim Kothari-Downtown Losfeld-20,000 Records Men From The Nile-Watch Them Come Neal Hefti-Here's To My Lover (from How To Murder Your Wife) Tipsy-Hard Petting (version that uses Sally Go Round The Roses as sample) The Match-Through Spray Colored Glasses Piero Piccioni-O Rugido Do Leao (remix) Sunny Face-late At Night Bobby Byrne-Barbarella Natural Calamity-That's Saying A Lot Wei Chi-Heaven Wondermints-Don't Go Breaking My Heart Can 7-Cruisin' (thanks Br Cleve) Dells-One Less Bell To Answer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:55:13 -0800 From: Otto Subject: (exotica) ukulele player wanted I'm looking for a ukulele player for a regular gig in the Los Angeles area possibly starting in March or May please email me directly cheers Otto otto@tikinews.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 12:10:59 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Fernsehprogramm vom Montag, den 8. Januar 2001 Heute: 16.15 Uhr - 17.00 Uhr: west3 Die Abenteuer des Thor Heyerdahl (1) "Kon-Tiki" auf Sonnenkurs; Viertlg. Reihe von Christopher Ralling 23.15 Uhr - 0.00 Uhr: phoenix Die Abenteuer des Thor Heyerdahl (1) "Kon-Tiki" auf Sonnenkurs; Viertlg. Reihe von Christopher Ralling # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:08:11 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) bedazzled tonight For a TV choice that's a bit less of a loaded pistol ("Jazz"), tonight (Monday) AMC is showing the original 1967 version of "Bedazzled" at 8:00pm and 12:30am (eastern). The late showing is supposed to be in letterbox format. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:26:17 +0100 From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Ken Burns's Jazz =20 Viewers, remember: it is a film about jazz, not the film about jazz. It is special and memorable and at times exciting. But the greatest service it could provide for the world would be to initiate other films about jazz that might be more educational about music, less isolationist and long-winded. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/arts/07RATL.html?pagewanted=3Dall Is the Burns series a fair representation of jazz? The question was put to= =20 musicians and others in the jazz world, who were provided with tapes of the series. JOE LOVANO Saxophonist: This brilliantly made series was a huge undertaking, an attempt to tackle a subject that was nearly impossible to fairly document in 10 episodes. It would have to run weekly for quite a while to focus not only on the stars we know and love but also on more of the innovative musicians who have contributed to each generation of the music.=20 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/07/arts/07ROBE.html?pagewanted=3Dall May I just add that such series did exist, beit on radio, in The= Netherlands? It ran for decades, thanks to the life long devotion of the late Michiel de Ruyter. 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There's Latin spice by Bert Kaempfert, Edmundo Ros, Willie Rodriguez and George Shearing, plus we sample the new CD by the Intergalactic Contemporary Ensemble (their cover of Yma Sumac's "Taki Rari" is a stunner!). Also on the menu...rare crime jazz from "The D.A.'s Man", "The Big Operator" and "The Man from Interpol", among others; bossas by Martin Denny, Bebel Gilberto and Pete Jacques; Nino Nardini and Roger Roger's ultra-rare "Jungle Obsession" now on CD (think Les Baxter meets Mandingo); along with tunes by Esquivel, Cal Tjader, Dean Elliott, the Metropole Orchestra and Mirageman; and we'll dip into German TV commercials with the effervescent "Popshopping" CD. To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the web, just visit: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html As always, your comments, suggestions and requests are welcome. Thanks for the space! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 13:12:42 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Yo Vivire/Celia Cruz >That's funny, because it totally doesn't sound like a woman. Wait until you hear Celeste Mendoza on Cuba Classics 2: Dancing with the Enemy on Luaka Bop. She sounds like a man! Cruz is great, I am very glad to have seen her last year. She says, "I plan to die onstage". Can't hate someone like that! Brian Phillips # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:30:50 +0100 From: Phil Ford Subject: (exotica) wynton marsalis *is* jazz! With all the discussion of Ken Burns' "Jazz" series on PBS, there has also been a good deal of talk about Wynton Marsalis. And it occured to me this morning: why is it that being a historicist means being a reactionary in Marsalis' case, while from the 1950s to the 1970s it meant exactly the opposite? Jackie Byard, Sun Ra, Charles Mingus, Herbie Nichols, Thelonious Monk, etc etc etc. were all "walking encyclopedias" of jazz styles, and they played music that drew from and manipulated different jazz-historical periods, often within the a single piece of music, or even within the same 8 measures. Their self-conscious historical reference was something sort of "modernistic" or "out there" - -- all these guys would have been considered pretty progressive in their time. But the same historicist borrowing nowadays suggests something else when Marsalis does it: each solo or composition becomes a little pantheon that enshrines Marsalis' favored musicians -- as always, with the polemical aim of demonstrating what "real jazz" is, and why Wynton is it. It seems to me that when Mingus (for ex.) bracketed off various jazz styles and treated them as compositional elements, the effect was to turn jazz into its own subject (a reflexive modernist gesture) and to affirm the inter-relationship of newness and tradition. But since Marsalis doesn't care about newness as such, his attempts to do the same thing come off as a sort of pretentious kitsch, miming the grand gestures of the past without really honoring (or understanding) their original intent. What remains is a message of Marsalis' own sense of his Place In History: I am jazz. I actually like some of Marsalis' own playing, but his I-am-jazz pretentions give me the creeps, and I look forward to "Jazz" with trepidation. Being the creative consultant of the largest and most brouhaha'ed mass-media account of jazz history has to be a sore temptation to someone with Marsalis' particular weakness for grandiosity. Phil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:08:21 -0500 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz The most recent reviews I've seen (even the favorable one) all mention that the music is chopped rather short. Almost no complete songs. If true, that would annoy me more than any of the other factors we've been talking about. To have 19 hours of running time and still slice 'n' dice the music like an "A&E Biography" is inexcusable. It is surprising how much controversy the series is creating (and I don't mean just on this list). It's either a reflection of the passion of jazz fans, or... they screwed it up bigtime. Time will tell... m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:27:18 +0100 From: James Subject: (exotica) La Paloma My girlfriend just called me up to tell me that a 4 CD boxset containing different versions of the classic song La Paloma has been released by the German record company Trikont (www.trikont.de). I went to their website and though I haven=B4t checked all, it looked very promising. But take a look for Yourselves. There is an option to view the site in English. The La Paloma collection was compiled by German musician Kalle Laar of whom I don`t know much but a link brought me to www.klangmuseum.de a very interesting site that could be of interest to most of You. Now I=B4ll go do a more thorough chech. I just thought I=B4d share this with You. James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:42:36 +0100 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) La Paloma James schrieb: > 4 CD boxset containing different versions of the classic song La Paloma has > been released by the German record company Trikont (www.trikont.de). > www.klangmuseum.de a very interesting site Confirmed. The La Paloma collection is a must for the exotica lover in my opinion. I've heard 3 CDs so far, which were published seperately. Those guys of the Klangmuseum were responsible for a couple of interestimng radio programs as well as for numerous live events, some of them with explicit exotic content. They lose me however, when they try to sell their stuff as serious "art" in museum context. But hey, maybe someone has to cultivate that field as well... Mo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:58:10 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: (exotica) Ken Burns Jazz >To have 19 hours of running time and still slice 'n' dice the music like an >"A&E Biography" is inexcusable. ...and with no attribution, either. I heard Johnny Dunn's "Bugle Call Rag", which I like, but it started after the intro (which is my favorite bit) and cut off well before the end. Thus the music that is the subject of the documentary serves as less than soundtrack; it becomes background. For myself, I am also waiting for the footage that one can't help avoiding. One piece has already been shown, that of the cakewalking people in their finery, although the speed seems to have been corrected. Others will undoubtedly be: - the head rag wearing women in the Cotton Club who take off their skirts and dance a hot number (I have seen this so many times with so many different soundtracks, I am quite certain this is silent footage) - a shot of a lit, elevated train. - Duke Ellington in "Check and Double Check", the horn section uses hat mutes. To further bolster what Worth has said, tonight's episode is 1917 to 1924, for TWO hours! I happen to like a lot from that era but sheesh and dang! For Marsalis' bits, they do focus on him a lot and he is talking about things that he, of course, couldn't have seen, but could have read about and been told, to be sure. For this bit, they might have done well to talk to his father Ellis, as well. It does make Wynton Marsalis sound like a know-it-all, but if he was his age, Wynton Marsalis, not a musician, but a historian and on the "Civil War" show, I might look at that differently. I still don't mind his involvement in the show, but he does suffer as being branded by the media as seemingly the ONLY person who is a musician who knows his history. He's young, cute (my wife thinks I am cuter, but I tampered with the vote), has Grammys and knows how to talk to the camera. As I said before, that's showbiz. Ace is right; such a controversy! PBS airs the multipart "Rock and Roll" documentary, not a titter from either list I belong to, but this series, wow! Oh well, I didn't learn what little I know about Jazz (because I am whipping a stinky horse that hasn't budged for a week, the series is written "JAZZ", but the music still gets written up with a small "j") through the television. Here is a great site about a great book (Jazz Styles by Marck C. Gridley) that decidedly does NOT stop at the sixties: http://cw.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/gridley/ Get a copy to-day! You can even order a CD or cassette to accompany the book, which addresses my frustration with books about music, ("This piece was great, it transcended time, healed my cat...and no one has a copy of it, since it was a deleted test pressing, oh well...") Does anyone else think that Stanley Crouch is an...interesting looking fellow, Brian Phillips P.S. For that hint of "Exotica", the program did mention that "Jelly Roll" Morton (and oh didn't they dodge the phallic meaning of Jelly Roll!) sometimes applied "the latin tinge" in his compositions. It's a good thing he didn't host this show, one, he's dead, which still makes him a better choice than Ben Murphy, say, but he also claimed to have invented Jazz! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #865 *****************************