From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #965 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Sunday, April 29 2001 Volume 02 : Number 965 In This Digest: (exotica) re:graeme revelle Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names (exotica) Cartridges Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names (exotica) Electric Spinach? (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE! (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic (exotica) old chinese music Re: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE! Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) soft pop hair tributaries Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (carmine appice) Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 29 Re: (exotica)carmine appice (exotica) Autographs Re: (exotica) needle question (exotica) book report: "Vintage Synthesizers" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:20:39 +0800 From: "William" Subject: (exotica) re:graeme revelle >Although not the one you're looking for, he is also on the compilation album >"Necropolis, Amphibians & Reptiles" (1986 Music Brut) which is interpretations >of the music of mental patient and outsider painter/musician Adolf Wolfli. >Also on this comp. are Nurse With Wound, a band well worth checking out. >There was also a CD + Book called "Musique Brut Collection" (1994) (Don't know >what's on it though) i've heard that the cd version of "necropolis, amphibians & reptiles" only contains the tracks by graeme revelle. or maybe this "musique brut collection" is really just the insect musicians and the wolfli music compiled together on a single disc. i'm not sure as i have them both on vinyl. but haven't heard them in years as they are in storage at my parents back in the states. but i remember really liking them. especially the wolfli record. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: naturboy@telerama.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names Quoting bag@hubris.net: > > When Marisa and I get together we will, I'm sure, get a cat...and we > both > think "Esquivel" would be cool! My buddy has a little tan and black Chihuahua named Esquivel. Sure, he's a hispter, but it seems a good name for a leetle dog from Mexico. The formidable Rex Doane at WFMU named his Chihuahua Tipitina after the New Orleans club, but that dog now appears to be called "Tiki." My own Chihuahua is named Googie, you know, after the exotic architecture that goes with the exotic music. there's a pattern here with silly people with silly dogs with silly names. al # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:55:39 -0700 From: bigshot Subject: (exotica) Cartridges >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:33:44 -0400 >From: "Brian" >Subject: Subject: (exotica) Cartridges > >Steve wrote: > >>- - How many hours of play does a needle have before it gets damaged? >>I'm not sure exactly, but it would be in the thousands. >This seems high but depends on a number of factors, including the >composition of the stylus (diamond, sapphire..) the type of cantilever, the >tracking force, and of course, the condition of the record. With all of the >above factors at their worst case options, I'd say hundreds at best. I have a Thorens TD165 with an Ortofon Moving Coil cartridge. I bought it around 1982 and it's still working fine. About five years ago, I got itchy and took it to a repair shop. The guy looked at it under the microscope and said it showed almost no wear. I think with a modern diamond stylus and a light tracking force, a cartridge will last thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours. >I wouldn't think a skp that causes the needle to jump is good for the >diamond or the caltilever, and large scratches are doing much the same on a >smaller scale. Light scraches probably wouldn't be as severe. With the light tracking force of modern turntables, wear is going to come about from hours of playing, not the occasional skip. The damage to the cantilever caused by playing very warped records at a high tracking force would be a serious problem though. >Stanton are the industry standard and from experience at >our station I can see why! The Shure models we got didn't make >it a month... And its not a cost thing, as some of the most >expensive cartridges are the most fragile. They're also the best sounding. I have Stanton, Shure and Ortofon cartridges and the Ortofon is the best sounding on LPs, and the Shure is the best sounding on 78s. >I think I mentioned a while back totally falling >for the moving coil type cartrigde as the sound was so much warmer and >detailed as compared to similar priced moving magnet models. The problem >with the moving coil is you may need a head amplifier stage as many of these >cartridges are lower output, and you cannot replace the stylus yourself. Since my moving coil cartridge has lasted nearly twenty years, I guess I don't mind chucking it and getting a new one when it wears out. That ought to be about ten years more. See ya Steve Stephen Worth bigshot@spumco.com The Web: http://www.spumco.com Usenet: alt.animation.spumco Palace: cartoonsforum.com:9994 Spumco International 10859 Burbank Bl. Suite A North Hollywood, CA 91601 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:56:09 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names We have a longhaired tabby cat, who's called Cosmo (yes, after the Seinfeld character). She's pretty psychotic, so it fits well... cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:12:40 +0200 (CEST) From: "Magnus Sandberg" Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: anyone else call their pets exotica related names citerar naturboy@telerama.com: > there's a pattern here with silly people with silly dogs with silly names. That remainds me of a comic, picture yourself two characters, one of them says: -The world is crowded with stupid idiots, the other replies: What do you mean? M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:17:37 -0400 From: Craig Carlson Subject: (exotica) Electric Spinach? >>By the way, how is that Ultimate Spinach? >I think they suck, but I'm from Boston where they were part of the 1967 Great >Rock And Roll Swindle AKA "The Bosstown Sound"...I haven't listened to them >since 1968. Maybe I should re-listen. Maybe not Oh, man, how can you say that about the creators of that quinessential '60s drone-jam "Ballad of the Hip Death Goddess"? The rest of the lp was a pretty direct steal of CJ & the Fish's Electric Music for the Mind and Body (future exotica?), but they deserved that one moment in the sun. Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:23:42 EDT From: HEDCANDY@aol.com Subject: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE! Anyone else into Geraldine & Ricky? The spooky as fu*k ventriloquist lady and her equally as malevolent spawn puppet "Ricky". For a groovy picture of the alias I have adopted on the net (Ricky)... come check out my picture! (at the botoom of the page) http://hometown.aol.com/hedcandy/HCHISTORY.html Also, anyone else here a: Sandy Nelson fan? Arnie Akanuie fan? Fan of Joe Puma Allstars "Like, Tweet" LP? Fan of Tommy Boyd "Ah So! Suite " LP? Disturbing Christian TV show fan? (Joy Junction, Dry Gulch) Philosphy Video fan (Sagan, Michio Kaku, Society of Spectacle) Have videos to trade? Currently enjoying: Tipsy - "Uh Oh" POPSHOPPOING Volume 1 - Juicy Music From German Commercials 1960 - 1975 CD (Crippled Dick Hot Wax! Berlin) OMLOUNGE - "3" Various Artists CD featuring Fila Brazillia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:52:52 -0700 From: "basic hip" Subject: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic This John Dankworth soundtrack has been on my wish list for awhile now. Like most soundtracks, I'll bet it is made up of some rather ordinary material offset by those two or (if you are lucky) three killer tracks that make the whole thing worthwhile. Even though it is very collectible, I recall reading here (a long time ago) that the score to Modesty Blaise is nothing to get too excited about. I also recall hearing that there are two versions - one on 20th Century Fox and one on Fontana - and that the UK release is "better". But I'm not sure I understand that if they are scores to the same movie. Maybe a slightly different track list? The only one in my Soundtrack guide is 20th CF. Anyway, I'm pickin your brains because both are up on ebay and my trigger finger is on the "place bid" button, ready to splurge. :) even if you tell me not to bother with it, I probably will only because - well, you know how it goes when you got it in your head that you have to have something. And even tho I know that it almost always ends in disappointment when I pursue records like this, I just can't help myself... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:40:44 EDT From: Dlsmay@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic The main theme, as Cal Tjader plays it on Espresso Espresso, is pretty great. And the movie is fab. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:15:51 +0800 From: "William" Subject: (exotica) old chinese music hi all, ok, for those that are interested i have dug up some sites on old chinese singers/movie stars. some of these have sound samples though some of the sites may not be in english but if you click around you should be able to figure out what is what. i haven't checked out the sound samples myself yet, so i'm not sure what this stuff sounds like, good or bad. http://www.geocities.com/xiao3mi1/ http://page.freett.com/leehsianglan/index.html http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/wildbill/691/pakok.htm http://www.welcome.to/wuinging william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:24:14 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) Geraldine & Ricky Ventriloquist LP & MORE! HEDCANDY@aol.com wrote: > Anyone else into Geraldine & Ricky? Didn't they form a Christian-lesbian/dummy domestic partnership with Marcy Tigner and Little Marcy back in 1995 and record a new version of "I Love Little Pussy"? > Disturbing Christian TV show fan? (Joy Junction, Dry Gulch) I've heard of these, but have never actually watched them. I think I preferred the less strident proselytizing of "Davey and Goliath" since it had that weird Art Clokey LSD aura surrounding it. But doesn't Veggie Tales also feature puppetry with a MESSAGE? I've had fundie relatives give these tapes to my children. I have this one particularly frighteningly strident and jingoistic Christian puppet video called "Zeke Loves America" featuring a fascist cowboy puppet named Zeke who leads the kiddies in singing "God Bless America" while fighter jets scream by in the background. Some friends of mine used to put on an elaborate touring Christian puppet show back in the late '70s/early 80's. They never made videos of their performances, unfortunately. - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:02:48 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 12:28 AM 04/27/2001, AZ wrote: >At 10:17 PM 4/26/01 -0400, I wrote: > >I have "The Cowsills In Concert" -- it opens with a studio cover of "Hair" > >and the rest seems to be genuine live material. Side two gets sort of heavy > >with tunes like "Sunshine Of Your Love" > >yeah that live album is not typical of their studio records. I have a >feeling that live they were trying to prove they're a real band and they >chose to do that through playing their instruments rather than sing their >harmonies. If that's the only record of theirs you have, don't judge them >by it. No reports on "Captain Sad & His Ship Of Fools"? On the live album, that's the bit that's sort of charming to me... that feeling of "We're not wimps! We'll show you! Grrrr!" There is more of their harmony stuff on Side 1. And I like the way everyone gets their own little feature song to sing lead on. And strangely, the young daughter's song reminds me of Mo Tucker's feature with the Velvets, "I'm Sticking With You". Now the VU songbook -- some great potential soft pop material there. There's another imaginary album to daydream about. "The Free Design Sing For Very Velvet People" -- all VU covers, recorded around 1970 or '71. Right up there with "The Tijuana Brass & Nico". >I have a live Association record too. It's better than the Cowsills but >again, it's no "Birthday". How do you see "And Then... Along Comes The Association" in their ouvre? (sorry, tried to avoid using that word, but my substitutes sounded even stuffier) When I listened to it, it struck me that it was prime secret source material for XTC, despite their acknowledged influences (never heard them mention the Association). m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:18 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop hair tributaries >A band with long hair and >sporting hideous side parts a-la "boy's "regular" haircut circa 1959 had to >be less than comfortable with long hair, but was wearing it as a >political/solidarisnoc (right Lech?) statement. Buy the album to be sure. A >band with mid-head parts realized that side parts weren't manageable with >long hair (allow some space for the early-age-follically-challenged). The semiotics of hair-parts. I love it. Back in the mid-80s, a little punk band you never heard of (and I can't remember their name) did a song called "Hair-Part Is A State Of Mind". It was their crowning achievement. "you're no Brian Phillips", - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:14:38 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered > > Big Jim Sullivan was a busy 60s session player in Britain. > > Sort of the Tommy Tedesco of the scene? > >Oh urgh. I hope not. Tedesco was *such* a hack. I actually paid 10 bucks to >attend a "seminar" he gave for aspiring session musicians back in 1981. It was >a total crock. He sat around, told boring stories, and played the same guitar >lick over and over again. I've wanted that hour of my life back ever since. Sounds like the real lesson of the seminar was: "How to make quick change from little guitar geeks." Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not that I was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the concept alone is enough. - --m.ace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:24:55 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered "m.ace" wrote: > > Sounds like the real lesson of the seminar was: "How to make quick change > from little guitar geeks." Well, I certainly fit the "little guitar geek" description. But in my own defense, Tedesco had a regular column in Guitar Player magazine that fooled me, and many other people, into believing that he was cultured, sophisticated, and possessed of a godlike guitar talent instead of a tedious studio whore. > Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not that I > was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the concept alone > is enough. Ha! I'm getting an image of 50 pimply faced adolescents in the woods pounding the skins along to Vanilla Fudge LPs! - -- Matt Marchese "I've been havin' this nightmare.......a real swinger of a nightmare, too." -Frank Sinatra (The Manchurian Candidate) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:57:35 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic on 4/27/01 11:52 PM, basic hip at basichip@home.com wrote: > Even though it is very collectible, I recall reading here (a long time ago) > that the score to Modesty Blaise is nothing to get too excited about. that's my opinion of it, although the theme is quite cool. > I also recall hearing that there are two versions - one on 20th Century Fox > and one on Fontana - and that the UK release is "better". I have a mono British copy; it doesn't mention the David & Jonathan version of the theme on the cover like the US version does. There is a vocal version of the theme, and it may be David and Jonathan, but I have no idea who they are. This is one of those records that I bet sounds a whole lot better in stereo. I'd love to hear that one of these days. I've seen the film, which I also thought was so-so, although it was quite nice to look at. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:54:45 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) soft pop tributaries At 12:02 PM 4/28/01 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >How do you see "And Then... Along Comes The Association" in their ouvre? >(sorry, tried to avoid using that word, but my substitutes sounded even >stuffier) Well first of all that was one of the first couple of records I ever bought. From the Columbia Record Club (along with the first Simon and Garfunkel record and the Best of both Bob Dylan and the Animals.) "Along Comes Mary" is certainly one of the more distinct hit songs ever. But when I reconnected with this record, the song that immediately returned to my list of all time favorites was "Enter the Young". The great thing about that tune is that on the one hand it has the feeling of some kind of proto-fascist thing Up With People might have recorded but on the other hand, it's a lot of fun. I sort of go along with the cliche that "Birthday" is the Association's masterpiece but I don't think the other records are far off. At least the first four or five. They eventually lost their way. They should have broken up before making records like "Waterbeds in Trinidad". (A good title for a Van Dyke Parks record) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:57:19 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions At 09:08 PM 4/26/01 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote: > >Can someone give me a few suggestions of organ >albums/songs with backing >female vocals? As I recall there are some good ones >by Lenny Dee but I >don't own any, and I'm sure there are other organists >out there that went >down that path for a while. > >Can you be more specific? Do you mean wordless >vocals - as in oohing and >aahing- or do you mean the females actual sing >words? I would assume that >I'd have an answer to this at my fingertips but I >don't. And I don't want >to go looking without knowing what you want. >(But off the top of my head for instance, Lenny Dee >does a version of >"Peace Train" with female backing vocals but they >actually sing whole >sections of the chorus.) > >AZ I thought I've heard the oohing and aahing variety, which I prefer, but the other way is fine too. Organ with ba-ba-bas is good too if you know any. Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:05:22 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered At 11:24 AM 4/28/01 -0500, Matt Marchese wrote: > >Well, I certainly fit the "little guitar geek" description. But in my own defense, >Tedesco had a regular column in Guitar Player magazine that fooled me, and many >other people, into believing that he was cultured, sophisticated, and possessed of >a godlike guitar talent instead of a tedious studio whore. Tedious Studio Whore. There are so many people who deserve this and not all of them musicians. I'm sure this was true of the late Tommy but didn't he at least make one great record where for instance, he did some cheesy electric sitar version of "I never promised you a rose garden"? He must have. All these guys did, didn't they? You know, you get fooled and buy those "guitar" records where Glen Campbell and even Howard Roberts played boring 12 string guitar in the style of the fifty snoozy guitars of Tommy Garrett. But you can't write these guys off, especially my beloved Howard. As much as I love him, most of his records are bad. His seventies fusion stuff is surprisingly lousy. But the guy made at least nine true gems. There must be a great Tommy Tedesco record, is all I'm saying. He's also on some of those Mainstream records with Al Caiola and Mr.X. Or am I mixing him up? (And by the way, my ex girlfriend's brother who was one of this country's greatest jazz-rock drummers, used to give seminars. Which isn't too scarey until you find out that one of his side-projects was a band literally called "Take a Solo".) AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:16:20 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise OST - UK and Domestic At 01:57 PM 4/28/01 -0400, Br. Cleve wrote: > >I have a mono British copy; it doesn't mention the David & Jonathan version >of the theme on the cover like the US version does. There is a vocal version >of the theme, and it may be David and Jonathan, but I have no idea who they >are. I just went through this very mystery. David and Jonathan are Roger Cook and Roger Greenway. On the "Michelle" record, produced by George Martin, it says their names are David Roger Cook and Jonathan Roger Greenway (or the other way around.) I'm reluctant to praise someone who wrote, among other things "I'd like to teach the world to sing" and "I was Kaiser Bill's Batman". And I have decidedly mixed feelings about "My Baby Loves Loving" and "Here comes that rainy day feeling again". (All the above by Roger Cook) Having said that, the Michelle record which I just heard the other day is really very good. It's like a cross between Chad and Jeremy and the Righteous Brothers. Heck, I'll even give you a website with some of this same info. http://www.rogercook.com/notie5.asp AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:24:05 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) organs and vocal suggestions At 11:57 AM 4/28/01 -0700, F. Cobalt wrote: > >I thought I've heard the oohing and aahing variety, which I prefer, but the other way is fine too. Organ with ba-ba-bas is good too if you know any. Well I'll take a day or so to look. Almost all my organ records are now gone but there's some evidence left behind on CDR. But off the top of my head, even though this is probably not what you really want, there's this record by jazz organist Frederick Roach called "All That's Good" which uses this heavenly chorus of gospel ladies ooohing and aaahing in the background. It's on Blue Note. I have no idea whether it's been reissued. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 15:40:14 -0400 From: buMp Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered (carmine appice) it is funny how things intertwine in life. i have been all about Carmine Appice this week since i saw a clip of the Vanilla Fudge on Ed Sullivan doing You Keep Me Hanging On. what a brilliant 3 minutes of LSD meets Motown. the singer looks like Robert Goulet and tries to pull off overblown arm gestures while he fakes playing the Hammond. the rest of the band looks ridiculous but god love em, except Carmine who is sporting one hell of a hipster look and playing the drums like nobody's business (or at least looking like he is), replete with slick stick twirling. the tunes rips pretty good thanx to him. i also heard them doing Shotgun recently, which has some vicious drumming as well. and i just thought he was a drummer with a perm for Rod Stewart. bump >Though I'm sure it still can't top the Carmine Appice Drummers' Camp. Not >that I was a camper (or drummer) myself, I have no story about it. But the >concept alone is enough. ****************************************************** ***************************** ************* DJ buMp "Primitive Rhythms for Evolved Minds" Defective Records-Executive Producer "Electronic Mutations from Beyond" http://www.defectiverecords.com "Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:38:07 -0500 From: Matt Marchese Subject: Re: (exotica) a new subgenre discovered alan zweig wrote: > Tedious Studio Whore. Hmm. Now that I've written that, it seems a little harsh, but the guy was really disparaging towards the people he'd worked with in the studio and dismissed his contributions to a lot of those records outright. He also seemed to take great glee in describing how he would go from session to session and play the same lick at every one, just changing the effect, or the scale to make it rock, country, jazz, whatever the producer wanted. That attitude just seemed to define hackitude to me. > didn't he at least make one great record where for instance, he did some > cheesy electric sitar version of "I never promised you a rose garden"? Funny. I asked him a question about the electric sitar. I'd never seen one and wanted to know what they looked like and how you were supposed to tune it. He gave me a very flippant and dismissive answer, as I recall. > There must be a great Tommy Tedesco record, is all I'm saying. He's appeared on a lot of great recordings which is why his whole attitude during the seminar was so annoying. Maybe he was just having a bad day...kinda felt like Shatner stuck at another Trek convention or something. > (And by the way, my ex girlfriend's brother who was one of this country's > greatest jazz-rock drummers, used to give seminars. Which isn't too scarey > until you find out that one of his side-projects was a band literally called > "Take a Solo".) Hopefully, that doesn't include a 12-minute cover of "Moby Dick". "Wait a minute, this sounds like rock-and-or-roll!" - -Rev. Lovejoy - -- Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:44:10 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, April 29 Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at: http://www.ckut.ca As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome. Space Bop #140 Did Somebody Say "Brazil"? This week, we're in a Brazilian mood. Two compilations landed in our mailbox this week, and we thought they'd be fun to combine. Big thanks to Bump for "Brazilatino Au Go-Go" and Keith for "Brazil Variations" (21 versions of "Brazil"!!). Chet Atkins & Les Paul: Brazil Gilberto Gil: Cerebro Electronico Mutantes: Bat Macumba Sesso Matto: Kinky Peanuts 50 Guitars Of Tommy Garrett: Brazil Cal Tjader: Soul Sauce Tjader/Palmieri: Guajira En Azul Joao Donato: Cala Bola Menino Janko Nilovic: Atchika Boum Edmundo Ros & Orchestra: Brazil Francesco De Masi: Diamond Bossa Nova Daniele Luppi: La Nudista Vanoni: Senza Paura (Sem Medo) Elza Soares: Deixo Isso Pra La Ethel Smith: Brazil Henry Mancini: Borderline Slim Gaillard: Yo Yo You Ray Barretto: Soul Drummers Vengaboys: Brazil Thanks for reading, and thanks for listening cheryls@dsuper.net brian@phyres.lan.mcgill.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:40:37 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica)carmine appice In a message dated 4/28/1 2:46:00 PM, bump@defectiverecords.com wrote: >i have been all about Carmine Appice this week since i saw a clip of the >Vanilla Fudge on >Ed Sullivan doing You Keep Me Hanging On. >what a brilliant 3 minutes of LSD meets Motown. >the singer looks like Robert Goulet and tries to pull off overblown arm >gestures while he >fakes playing the Hammond. the rest of the band looks ridiculous but god >love em, You're talking to a fella who was such a Vanilla Fudge packer that he saw 'em five times...That's lot for a band that lasted about 2.5 years! The lead singer is Mark Stein (www. markstein.com I believe) and their arrangements did two things for me: they climaxed my relationship with psychedelic music and they brought me to soul music's door. Overblown though they were, I went beserk over them. Particularly at a Weirs Beach (Lake Winnepausaukee, New Hampshire) concert in the Summer of '68 where they were opened for by The Barbarians...at Irwin Gardens, right next to the dock where you caught the Mount Washington ferry...JB/New Hampshire summertime vet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:14:05 -0700 From: "Brian Linds" Subject: (exotica) Autographs Okay all you autograph hounds! If anyone is interested in a copy of Forbidden Island with Martin Denny, Harvey Ragsdale, Julius Wechter and August Colon's autographs, let me know. I'm not a collector of signatures my self (although I do cherish my signed placemat to my sister from Brian Jones. I alas, lost mine years ago! "To Brian, from Brian. Hey man. We've got the same name!"). If you want to arrange a trade of some sort, let me know off the list. The autographs say: 1)To Bob Lyon- My best personal regards to a real pro. Aloha. Martin Denny 6/4/52 2) Best wishes Bob - Julius Wechter 3) Like-Bob-Aloha.Harvey Ragsdale 4) August Colon- Bongols (he's drawn a set of bongos under his name) The records in so so shape and the seam of the jacket is torn. But it's cool all the same. Bye for now, Brian Linds # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:33:10 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) needle question Robert wrote: > I don't believe in needle wear. That's my personal opinion. Unless the > needle is damaged by severe scratches or bubbles, it should last > indefinitely. Afterall, it's a diamond. I can usually get 1000 hours > easily. HOWEVER, it's the cantilever you really have to worry about. I can't say for sure as I too am no expert, however, I seem to remember something about elliptical diamonds wearing differently than conical shaped diamonds. I also remember tracking force as having an effect, both if too light or too heavy causing different wear patterns. You're right though as it would seem a diamond would never wear, its just that this somehow sticks in my memory. Of course it may be my failing memory or I may have just read one too many audiophile mags in my day. Serious audiophiles are (just a bit) excessive... Steve wrote: > I have a Thorens TD165 with an Ortofon Moving Coil cartridge. I > bought it around 1982 and it's still working fine. About five years > ago, I got itchy and took it to a repair shop. The guy looked at it > under the microscope and said it showed almost no wear. I think with > a modern diamond stylus and a light tracking force, a cartridge will > last thousands, if not tens of thousands of hours. How does the guy know the original shape of the diamond? With a very light tracking force, your stylus may last 20+ years, but you'll wear the top edges off all your record grooves! I had a TD165 years back and a lot of trouble keeping it working. I used a Stanton on the recommendation of the experts I consulted with at the time as it wasn't a particularly delicate tonearm mechanism, so it seemed a good match. To be fair though, I bought my turntable used, and I think that was a good part of the problem. > >Stanton are the industry standard > They're also the best sounding. I have Stanton, Shure and Ortofon > cartridges and the Ortofon is the best sounding on LPs, and > the Shure is the best sounding on 78s. This is, as always a totally subjective thing, as every person likes something different about the sound quality. Some prefer warmth, some the detail, and some just the price! There is also a huge range of cartridges within manfacturers lines, Ortofon and Shure in particular. I personally have no reason to ever change from my Signet OC-9 from Audio Technica, but that's my preference. BTW, the recommendation for it came from a reputable source, Wilson Audio in New Orleans. Most important though, it worked for my ears! > Since my moving coil cartridge has lasted nearly twenty years, I > guess I don't mind chucking it and getting a new one when it > wears out. That ought to be about ten years more. James asked for advice and I guess on this subject Steve, we will simply have to agree to disagree. In any case with the kind of records in James' collection I think they deserve better than 20+ years of regular use between a cartridge change. I know my own collection deserves better! What you choose to do, is of course your choice, and your alone to make. Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:47:39 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) book report: "Vintage Synthesizers" "Vintage Synthesizers" Mark Vail (Miller Freeman Books) All about old, analog synthesizers (and other keyboard instruments) from roughly 1962 to the 80s, though there are also photos of an Ondes Martenot and an early Bob Moog synthesizer. Much of the material originally appeared in "Keyboard" magazine, I think. Some chapters are authored by other writers, including a few by Bob Moog himself (there's also a pretty funny account of Moog's first experience of an Emerson, Lake & Palmer live show, including a chance encounter with a terrified Gershon Kingsley). Coverage of brands from famous to obscure seems pretty complete -- company histories, instrument descriptions, etc, etc. There are also sections on Mellotrons, electric pianos, combo organs, clavinets and the like. Even the Optigan. Also chapters on care and feeding of vintage synths, along with tips for shoppers. The book has been around for a while, but this is the "updated and expanded" second edition from 2000. Summary: steamy stroke book for synth fanciers. On the same subject... I see that PAiA Electronics has come out with their first modular analog gear in many years: http://www.paia.com/p9700s.htm Now with midi control. Yum. m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #965 *****************************