From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #980 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Monday, May 28 2001 Volume 02 : Number 980 In This Digest: Re: (exotica) Korla Pandit's secret identity? Re: (exotica) Bedazzled OST Reissue Re: (exotica) Korla Pandit's secret identity? Re: (exotica) Bedazzled OST Reissue (exotica) Perry Rhodan and Fantomas Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) Amsterdam (exotica) BBC Radio 2 - Goon Show Night (exotica) old folks old lists Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) I monster Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Re: (exotica) old folks old lists (exotica) "funtown" record? (exotica) El Chicano lp? Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? (exotica) Re: Amsterdam Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? (exotica) The Sandpipers "Guantanamera" Re: (exotica) The Sandpipers "Guantanamera" Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? Re: (exotica) old folks old lists Re: (exotica) Amsterdam ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 07:16:11 -0500 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: Re: (exotica) Korla Pandit's secret identity? > "You need to change the Korla Pandit bio.... he was really John Roland > Red from Columbia, Missouri. An African-American, Red changed his name > TWICE....first to Korla Pandit and then also assumed the alias "Juan > Rolando". I don't know about the John Roland Red part, but I have heard the Juan Rolando story before. I remember reading an interview with Korla Pandit once in which he was pretty open about using the Juan Rolando name when he worked on radio. I've heard some old shows in which the music is credited to Sr. Rolando. BTW, exotica listers and especially Pandit fans should check out "Chandu the Magician", a late '40s radio serial in which Korla Pandit provided the creepy organ music. A real exotica radio show! Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:22:55 -0500 From: Paul Wages Subject: Re: (exotica) Bedazzled OST Reissue Footlight Records ( http://www.footlight.com ) is offering what looks like a legit version. The label is listed as HARKIT, and it has a different cover than the Two Little Kooks release. Click on the soundtracks link under the recent releases bar. They are also offering Percepto's Vic Mizzy release, a reissue of Morricone's great "Exorcist II" score, and several interesting French soundtracks. Anyone heard the "Fantomos" or "4..3..2..1...Morte - Perry Rhodan" soundtracks? > I think there may actually be a legit version being reissued - in Dusty > Groove's upcoming releases, there's a listing for Bedazzled by The Dudley > Moore Trio. Maybe the remake finally convinced someone to reissue the > original. > > cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:55:37 EDT From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Korla Pandit's secret identity? In a message dated 5/27/01 3:37:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, weirdomusic@wxs.nl writes: << You need to change the Korla Pandit bio.... he was really John Roland Red from Columbia, Missouri. An African-American, Red changed his name TWICE....first to Korla Pandit and then also assumed the alias "Juan Rolando". These aliases allowed him to find work in segregated Los Angeles and San Francisco in the 40's and 50's. He was a great keyboardist; however, his story of the assumed names is much more interesting!! You can real all about him and his triple identities in the June issue of Los Angeles Magazine" >> I don't know, the Korla Pandit I saw at Bimbo's on his last (?) trip up here seemed pretty Caucasian to me. I wouldn't doubt that "Korla Pandit" wasn't the only alias he ever used though (of course the debate would be which aliases were the ones he actually used). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:00:19 -0400 From: "Br. Cleve" Subject: Re: (exotica) Bedazzled OST Reissue on 5/27/01 12:22 PM, Paul Wages at rewages@mediaone.net wrote: > Footlight Records ( http://www.footlight.com ) is offering what looks like a > legit version. The label is listed as HARKIT, and it has a different cover > than the Two Little Kooks release. Harkit is a bootleg label; they've also issued "Klute" and "Enter The Dragon". I've heard that the sound quality on this Bedazzled is not that great. br cleve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:42:09 -0500 From: "Darrell Brogdon" Subject: (exotica) Perry Rhodan and Fantomas >Anyone heard the "Fantomos" or "4..3..2..1...Morte - Perry >Rhodan" soundtracks? I, too, would be curious about the Perry Rhodan CD is anyone's heard it. I received the Fantomas CD last week (music by Michel Magne). The music veers wildly from groovy '60s crime/spy jazz to music that might accompany light comedy. Judging by the liner notes, it sounds like the films were decidedly tongue in cheek. A little disappointed in the CD but, hey, that's just me. Darrell Brogdon The Retro Cocktail Hour KANU FM 91.5 Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at: http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:10:48 -0400 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Robbie wrote: > I'm going to be making my first visit to Amsterdam in July - hurrah! > Can anyone recommend any record shops, retro design shops, > bars, clubs, museums etc that would be worth seeking out? Amsterdam was home to one of the more interesting experimernatal music stores (and label of the same name) I've ever visited, called Staalplaat. I assume it's there as I visited its newly opened branch in Berlin last year and it was even more loaded with goodies, from music to videos to books & comics. I also went looking for the store I spent many days in while in the city in 1980, called Boudisque, and at that time it was just about the best store I'd ever visited. It was still there but it was just about as interesting as going to a shopping centre record store. I don't know what else is still around as 5 years is a long time. As for museums and other culture, Amsterdam is a great place to visit and I wouldn't know where to start. It is also the home of the finest Indonesian food in the western world. Coming from the UK you may not find it a shock, but as compared to Canada it is one expensive place to visit! Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:45:47 +0200 From: edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Moritz R wrote: >edjunkita wrote: >>There's not much else to do here > >don't believe this Dutchman! The natives from the "Low Countries" seem to hate themselves and don't find anything >good about their country. Welcome back, Mo. For your information, I am not a Dutchman, but an Englishman in exile. It's just that 99,9% of the Dutch are totally unhip to cool Retro and Exotica. There's virtually nothing like that here in Amsterdam (why do you think I'm so depending on this list, goddammit) Ok, I will turn off my frustration mode for a while and try to be more helpful. Bratwurstfresser Mo wrote: >Eat Fricandel Special from an automatic vending-machine. I strongly advise you not to. These contain the slaughterhouse leftovers (I'll leave it up to your imagination what may be) Better to check out some of the many Indonesian restaurants for a more tastier and healthier meal. Some of them have very nice Exotica interiors. Museums: The 3 main museums are conveniently next to each other on the Museumplein: Rijksmuseum - pre 19th century Classicism - Rembrandt and his contemporaries Van Gogh museum - 19th century Impressionism & Symbolism (one of my favourite museums) Stedelijk Museum - 20th century Modernism Exotica fanatics might want to check out the Tropenmuseum (=Tropical museum) And if you're in a really cheezy mood the Sex museums (there's 2 different ones) or the Torture museum, where everything is totally fake. Record shops: Record Palace - Weteringschans 33 A good selection (although pricy) of 2nd hand jazz/soundtracks/50's-70's in the basement. Listen all you want (self service) Concerto - Utrechtsestraat 52-60 Although the 2nd hand section is not what it used to be, it's still worth checking out. Reasonably priced and you can listen to the 2nd hand vinyl for as long as you want (self service). The New section has a bit of everything, including a ok selection of lounge, soundtracks, triphop, dance, "world", etc. Get Records - Utrechtsestraat 105 New CDs & Vinyl only, one of the best shops for alternative/independent guitar/dance/"world" etc. Distrortion Records - Westerstraat 72 New & 2nd hand, small but good selection of alternative/independent guitar/dance music Forever Changes - Bilderdijkstraat 148 New & 2nd hand Vinyl & CD, small but good selection of lounge/soundtracks/50's-now, some 2nd hand and occasionly even some Exotica. Datzzit - Prinsengracht 306 2nd hand CD's/LP's/45's/78's interesting stuff, but can be bit pricy Sound of the Fifties - Prinsengracht 669 New and 2nd hand, mostly vinyl (someCD's) 50's& 60's /jazz Boudisque - Haringpakkerssteeg 10-18 New CD's and some vinyl, not what it used to be, but they still have a bit of everything Clubs (best to check out the flyers while you're here): Winston Kingdom - Small bar/club, one of the few places where you can go to a decent 50's -70's retro party Korsakoff - Liijnbaansgracht 161 - bar/club - "alternative" dance music Paradiso - Weteringschans 6-8 - bands playing every night and dance parties afterwards Melkweg - Lijnbaansgracht 234 - bands playing every night and dance parties afterwards Mazzo - Rozengracht 114 (2Step, speedgarage etc. maybe an occasional retro party) More - Rozengracht (2Step, speedgarage etc.) West-Pacific - Westergasfabriek Haarlemmerweg 8-10 Club de Ville - Westergasfabriek Bars: Du Lac - Haarlemmerstraat 118 - nice place, must be checked out for it's amazing exotic interior Seymour Likely, Bep, etc- Nieuwezijds Voorburgwal 250 - 3 or 4 loungy type bars, all next to each other De Diepte - Sint Pieterspoortsteeg - (trashy) retro rock&roll bar. Next to it is De Buurvrouw, which is also not bad Fleamarkets: Looiersmarkt - indoor market on the Looiersgracht, not too well known (everyday except sunday) Waterlooplein- the main fleamarket, a bit too touristy for my taste (everyday except sunday) Noordermarkt - (monday morning/early afternoon only) De Tweede Ronde - Van Slingelandtstraat - one of the few real thriftstores in Amsterdam parks: I reccomend the Vondelpark. (you can rent skates there) Your trustworthy local native guide, Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:10 +0200 From: edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Brian wrote: > Amsterdam was home to one of the more interesting experimernatal music > stores (and label of the same name) I've ever visited, called Staalplaat. > I assume it's there as I visited its newly opened branch in Berlin last year > and it was even more loaded with goodies, from music to videos to books & > comics. The Staalplaat in Amsterdam doesn't have comics and only a few books and videos. I didn't mention it in my earlier post (not being a typical exotica or retro type shop) but it's interesting none the less. The address is: Staalkade 6 > I also went looking for the store I spent many days in while in the > city in 1980, called Boudisque, and at that time it was just about the best > store > I'd ever visited. It was still there but it was just about as interesting as > going to a shopping centre record store. They used to be the best store in town as they also used to be the biggest distributor in the country. Now they're... well sorta ok. > It is also the home of the finest Indonesian food in the western world. True > Coming from the UK you may not find it a shock, but as > compared to Canada it is one expensive place to visit! Totally not true! well CD's are a bit more expensive than many other countries (new Cd's can range from US $14 -$20, especially American CD's thanks to the high $ rate) but if you know where to go, Amsterdam is much cheaper than Paris, Berlin, London, New York, Rome, Scandinavia, Japan etc. (Not to mention the cheap drugs) You don't tip in bars and taxis, in restaurants only10% max (if the service was really good). Taxis are expensive, but Amsterdam is small, so everything is more or less walking distance. Rent a bike! Your trustworthy Amsterdam native guide, Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:24:31 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam compared to your initial statement you finally came up with an amazing load of interesting spots in Amsterdam. It made me want to visit it again eventually... Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:41:24 EDT From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam In a message dated 5/27/2001 4:25:24 AM, tiki@netsurf.de writes: << Skip the alkohol and the hookers, >> Skip the hookers, but don't miss the red light district. Window shopping takes on a whole new meaning there - I was there years ago but if it is still the same, the hookers sit in storefront windows on the bed waiting for customers. It' s very surreal. Bob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:42:37 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam There were lots of interesting, very good value second hand shops (the new selection was quite pricy as I recall) I don't have the addresses posted to me by a listmember to hand. The only problem being the long walk necessitated by not knowing the city and the streets following the canals concentrically so you may walk a long way to the street to find the number you are looking for is crosstown. The reason I am posting is the flea markets. The Dutch invented credit capitalism (and stockmarket crashes etc.) and as a result everything is for sale. And due to the high standard of living and remarkable wealth distribution people don't want other people's old junk at high prices. I saw some incredible bargains. Lots of 10 records for 7 guilders (£3 in those yankee dollars you have in Scotland I think). I wish I could have carried more! Or head up North to Frieseland, say Hoi! to the locals (confusingly, particularly when you're leaving) drink the nice beer, second only to Belgium in the good beer stakes (don't drink the cheap piss most Dutch people drink, even the good stuff is cheap by British standards) and pick up old harmoniums and the like for about 20 quid. Apparantly if you make it over for Queen's day this culture is seen at its extreme as parents send their kids out to flog all the old stuff on the streets. I wouldn't be a huge fan of the, um, cuisine. Dutch farming is so industrialised the produce is tasteless. But I love the country and the culture. Great museums. Particularly if you're a bit of a map geek like me (old Blaue atlases etc.) the queen's library had an exhibition on last time I was there which I found enthralling - including the Nazi propaganda that was collected during the war as a future history project - documenting the occupation. forgive waffling. and don't eat the hash cakes, that's when the Dutch really laugh at the tourists. Nice mushrooms in the coffeeshops though. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:42:15 +0200 From: Johan Dada Vis Subject: (exotica) BBC Radio 2 - Goon Show Night BBC Radio 2's Goon Show night on Tuesday 29th May starting at 7 pm BST. Here's the time-table: 19.00 Goons Night Introduciton 19.10 Spike Milligan's favourite Goon Show "The Fear Of Wages" 19.40 Modern day comedians select their favourite Goon Show moments 20.00 At Last The Go-On Show - revised version of programme celebrating 40 years of the Goons 21.00 Just before Goon Rise - Denis Norden traces the history of the show 21.30 -22.30 - The Cardboard Replica Goon Show - re-creation of an original Milligan/Larry Stephens script featuring Andrew Secombe (son of Harry), Jon Glover & Jeffrey Holland Announcer Christopher Timothy (son of Andrew Timothy). Lance Ellington performs one of his father's songs and Harry Pitch performs the Max Geldray number. Orchestra conducted by John Wilson. BBC Radio 2 can be obtained via the WEB (http://www.bbc.co.uk) On home page click on "Audio-Video" (at top of page) and when "Listen Live" appears, select Radio 2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:18:43 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: (exotica) old folks old lists On this other list, people are talking about Dylan turning 60 and the whole issue of short careers versus long careers. So it makes me wonder, is this list finished? Effectively over? I know no one can answer that. But I just bought the fourth record by a band whose first three records were huge for me and the fourth is kind of not much. And it makes me wonder about the whole issue of things running their course. I have no idea how to revive this thing. Maybe it's time to bow out before it gets even sadder. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:29:08 +0800 From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Hi Robbie, Record Shops - as Marco mentioned, Get Records and Concerto are good, comprehensive stores, but mainly for new CDs. My favorite store there was 'Forever Changes' on the Bilderdijkstrasse, which has a good selection of CDs and vinyl reissues, with some bargains in the 10 guilder bin. Also, there's big vinyl store on the Prinsengracht near the looisgracht(?) on the west side. Quite a few small interesting record stores are in the Jordaan area in the north west central canals. Oh, and the Noordermarkt on a Monday sometimes has great record deals. In terms of clubs - there are 2 legendary venues - the Melkweg and the Paradiso, both of which often have interesting stuff on and could be worth a visit. It's 2 years since I lived there, but it used to be that two sets of 'ez' DJ's were playing out reguarly - 'Easy Alohas' were playing at the Westergasfabriek on Sundays, and the 'B&M DJs' (slightly more house oriented, but of some interest) were playing at a bar called 'Seymour' near the Dam Square. Again, this is possibly 2 years out of date, but if you're into the more caberet/club montepulciano side of the lounge scene, there is/was something on Sunday nights called 'Club Vegas'. In fact, I just found a website - so it looks like it's still going: http://www.clubvegas.nl/vegas.html Museums - I'd say the Stedilijk modern art museum is probably the most interesting. Have frites met mayonnaise; have a good time! Jonny - ------ http://musicaltaste.net tell us about your favorite songs! - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:39:59 +0800 From: "Jonny Perl" Subject: Re: (exotica) I monster >That Gunter Kallman Chorus track is on the >Polydor 'Easy Listening' 2LP >compilation which is a fairly common charity shop >record in the UK. >Been meaning to sample that for about 5 years. I >hope the I Monster track does it justice... I know what you mean! I think a lot of people into this stuff in England about five years ago leapt on this track. For me, it was about the first really cool E/Z track I owned on vinyl (sad, eh!), and I remember even doing a cover version (in private) with some friends. FYI, The middle section of the song ('I've dreamed of the places I've been with you....') is lifted directly from a piece by Tchaikovsky. Although this song is probably the least common of the three famous 'Daydreams' I know of (the others being the Lovin' Spoonful and Johnny Hodges/Duke Ellington), I've come across a couple other versions. One superb on is by Franck Pourcel, with a nice beat on it. cheers, jonny - -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.lycosmail.com Powered by Outblaze # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:33:24 -0400 From: "cheryl" Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Actually, one of the best cheeses in the world comes from Holland - aged Gouda. It's sort of like real good Parmesan, but even better. From: "Robert McKenna" > I wouldn't be a huge fan of the, um, cuisine. Dutch farming is so > industrialised the produce is tasteless. cheryl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:37:45 -0500 From: Clayton Black Subject: Re: (exotica) old folks old lists It took me a minute to figure out exactly what you were getting at, Alan, but if you mean that all things run their course and that therefore this list will as well, and the apparent "sadness" of discussion in recent days/weeks/months/ is the sign that the list is "effectively over," then I suppose that depends on your expectations. I suppose it's clear it can't be forever what it once was for you--that thing that needs to be revived. Or do you mean, on the other hand, that your interest in exotica is waning? You've indicated in several ways that it might be taking a different direction--your interest is more in sitars and now sound, and you don't much care for tiki culture, so has your taste just evolved out of what originally led you to the list? Or has the list evolved away from what led you to it? If so, how? I had the impression that the "fourth record" that disappointed you was by a current band, in which case I wanted to say that although I've learned a lot about current bands on this list, the list has never been about what is new (although that is obviously not excluded) but about good music (or good sounds) that the rest of the world seemed to leave behind. If there's a revival of it, great. If not, it's still good music and I can still enjoy it. As long as there are other people who think the same, I'll throw in my two cents. I haven't added much lately because I don't know a thing about what anyone's been talking about in recent weeks. Nor have I had any good thrift finds. But as long as there are people on the list who have interesting things to say, I'll hang on. (Hope that doesn't put the nail in the coffin for you.) If it's not too painful, do you mind saying what's lacking now? What's "sad" about the list? Clayton > From: alan zweig > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:18:43 -0400 > On this other list, people are talking about Dylan turning 60 and the whole > issue of short careers versus long careers. > So it makes me wonder, is this list finished? > Effectively over? > I know no one can answer that. But I just bought the fourth record by a > band whose first three records were huge for me and the fourth is kind of > not much. > And it makes me wonder about the whole issue of things running their course. > I have no idea how to revive this thing. Maybe it's time to bow out before > it gets even sadder. > AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:20:05 -0000 From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) "funtown" record? I picked up a strange record at the local thrift the other day called "Funtown" on K-Tel records, from 1976 I think. The cover shows a bunch of different puppets and they sing current hits (Snowbird, etc.) in their weird puppet voices, often changing the lyrics. They sort of look like a puppet version of Hee-Haw. A few tracks on the disc use the moog too. It's tough to listen to for long but it's odd enough to warrant keeping. But it looks to be the spinoff of a TV show called "Funtown" which I don't remember at all. Anyone know this show or this record? Can you throw some facts my way if you do? thanks jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:24:44 -0000 From: "james brouwer" Subject: (exotica) El Chicano lp? Hoped this hasn't been discussed already but I picked up an album for 75 cents called "Viva Tirado" by El Chicano. It's good, sort of instrumental early Santana sounding Chicano funk stuff. I had never heard it before but looking on the net it doesn't appear to be that rare. But I couldn't see whether the original lp is worth much (is it?). And do they have any other albums? They do a great version of "Quiet Village" by the way. anyone else like this lp? jb _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:40:28 EDT From: HOUSEOBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? In a message dated 5/28/2001 4:25:35 PM, jamesbrouwer@hotmail.com writes: << They do a great version of "Quiet Village" by the way. anyone else like this lp? >> It's pretty good. I should listen to it again. I bought it for a buck at a flea market near Santa Fe. I found another lp by them with a great instrumental version of "Sugar Sugar". I almost never see their records out there so I assume there are not a lot around. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:51:06 +0200 (MEST) From: Hemmel@gmx.net Subject: (exotica) Re: Amsterdam Hi Robbie, if you are into Bollywood... I’ve been told that it is a good place to find old Indian OST vinyl cheap at the fleamarkets there, because there are living a lot of Indians. ( for me this would be a reason alone to visit Amsterdam ) Martin >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:36:39 +0100 >From: "Robbie Baldock" >Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam > >I'm going to be making my first visit to Amsterdam in July - hurrah! > >Can anyone recommend any record shops, retro design shops, >bars, clubs, museums etc that would be worth seeking out? > > >Robbie - -- visit the ***Space Escapade*** Exotic Club Pop Entertainment with Guests and the Lemon Squeezer Sound System at the Atomic Cafe, Neuturmstr. 5, Munich, every Tuesday Night http://www.atomic.de/ Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a - -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:19:09 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? In a message dated 5/28/1 3:25:35 PM, jamesbrouwer@hotmail.com wrote: >They do a great version of "Quiet Village" by the way. anyone else like this >lp? I LOVE that LP and the one other one I have by them which contains a killa latinized instrumental version of "What's Going On?" I also have one other song by them called "Don't Put Me Down (Cause I'm Brown)" which popped up on an English Kent compilation a decade and a half back....Five Stars. Also, for breakbeat fans, Los Chicharrons pile "Viva Tirado" up on top of a break from Sylvia's "Pillow Talk" which makes for some tasty listening...JB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:30:39 -0400 From: "m.ace" Subject: (exotica) The Sandpipers "Guantanamera" The Sandpipers "Guantanamera" (A&M / mono version) Well, after seeing this album pictured on A&M inner sleeves for years, I finally stumbled on a nice copy. This is definitely soft pop... some of the softest pop I've ever heard. So soft, it becomes downright hallucinatory at times. Very relaxing though. They definitely worked from a formula here. And when applied to "Louie, Louie" it makes for the strangest "Louie, Louie" I've run across, complete with the bassline from the second part of "You've Lost That Loving Feeling"! I can't really pull out any other tracks for special comment, as they all tend to flow together. In a pleasant way. Soothing soft pop for nights when life has left you frazzled. For those who have heard more Sandpipers... did they maintain this formula exactly on later albums, or did they develop some other moves? It's very effective for one album, but I can see it becoming tedious if they stuck with it record after record. Derek Taylor's blank verse liner notes are fun. Excerpt: "Earning, Yearning Seeking a corner Of the Cave Somewhere away From the battle And the fire of Popwar." I leave it to Chuck or Alan to illuminate this album's place in the soft pop cosmology. thanks, m.ace mace@ookworld.com http://ookworld.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:56:22 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) The Sandpipers "Guantanamera" At 09:30 PM 5/28/01 -0400, m.ace wrote: > >The Sandpipers >"Guantanamera" >(A&M / mono version) > .> >I can't really pull out any other tracks for special comment, as they all >tend to flow together. In a pleasant way. Soothing soft pop for nights when >life has left you frazzled. > >For those who have heard more Sandpipers... did they maintain this formula >exactly on later albums, or did they develop some other moves? No. No other moves. Basically there's Sandpipers with a Latin tinge and Sandpipers without a Latin tinge. But if you don't mind the softness, they're really good at it. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:01:14 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) El Chicano lp? At 08:24 PM 5/28/01 -0000, james brouwer wrote: > > >Hoped this hasn't been discussed already but I picked up an album for 75 >cents called "Viva Tirado" by El Chicano... But I couldn't see >whether the original lp is worth much (is it?). And do they have any other >albums? I think they have at least four records. They get gradually worse. The first record has a number of influences and genres mixed together. The fourth record is just a pop record with pretty good musicians. As far as rareness and price go, they're in limbo. Some record stores know that the first couple of records are hot and so a copy in good condition could easily go for twenty bucks. Other places just see it as warmed-over Santana (isn't one of them a Santana brother or is that Malo?) and put it out at five or six bucks. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:10:34 +0200 From: edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) old folks old lists this other list? a band? this thing? what's wrong with calling a spade a spade? we want some juicy details here now alan zweig wrote: > On this other list, people are talking about Dylan turning 60 and the whole > issue of short careers versus long careers. > So it makes me wonder, is this list finished? > Effectively over? > I know no one can answer that. But I just bought the fourth record by a > band whose first three records were huge for me and the fourth is kind of > not much. > And it makes me wonder about the whole issue of things running their course. > I have no idea how to revive this thing. Maybe it's time to bow out before > it gets even sadder. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:32:18 +0200 From: edjunkita Subject: Re: (exotica) Amsterdam Robert McKenna wrote: > Lots of 10 records for 7 guilders since a couple of years that's only the crap 80's & 90's stuff > Or head up North to Frieseland, The best vinyl booty is to be found in the south of Holland in the towns = near the belgian border. For some reason fleamarket salesmen there are either too benevolent or too ignorant to price their rekkids according to= their date or catalog value. I never seem to find time to go down south myself,= but a friend of mine pulls out the most amazing stuff for US$1 max. That's wh= ere all the Amsterdam 2nd hand record salesmen get their merchandise from (an= d resell for $20) > Apparantly if you make it over for Queen's day this culture is seen at = its > extreme as parents send their kids out to flog all the old stuff on the > streets. Oh yes, best day of the year by far. That's April 30th and every true vi= nyl hunter should make sure their ass is in Amsterdam on that day. Imagine the whole= town being one big garagesale. This year I got like 100 records for like 50cts= each. The most amazing stuff. >I wouldn't be a huge fan of the, um, cuisine. Dutch farming is so indust= rialised >the produce is tasteless. You must talking about the "waterbomb tomatoes", they're improving, with = more emphasis on the taste again instead of on the profit. A survey among my n= on dutch friends in Holland says the best dutch food product is 'vanille vla= ', a very creamy kind of custard. Second best is 'ontbijtkoek' (a kind of gingerbre= ad?). >the queen's library had an exhibition on last time >I was there which I found enthralling - including the Nazi propaganda th= at >was collected during the war as a future history project - documenting t= he >occupation. huh? Sounds like I missed out on something good. Didn't even know there e= xisted such a library. Where would that be? > and don't eat the hash cakes, that's when the Dutch really laugh at the > tourists. not really. Actually the hash cakes can be quite good, especially if you'= re a non smoker. It's just that you never know how much is in them. My advic= e is to eat half of it first, wait and see what happens and then you can al= ways decide wether or not to eat the rest. (careful you don't eat more hash ca= ke when you get the munchies, you wouldn't be the first to make this unfortu= nate mistake) > Nice mushrooms in the coffeeshops though And legal too. ("Curiouser and =A9u=AE=EE=D2use=AE! ") Jonny Perl wrote: >My favorite store there was 'Forever Changes' on the Bilderdijkstrasse, >which has a good selection of CDs and vinyl reissues, with some bargains= in >the 10 guilder bin. I'm being spoilt living just opposite this place (Bilderdijkstraat). I ca= n actually see what's new from my own window. It has just changed owners. The former had a great nose for sniffing out rare and amazing stuff, but he had such a chronic bad mood, his employees nicknamed him Mr. Ulcer. The new guy is very friendly but has less knowledge about the music. He bought the store records and all, so there's still lots of goodies to be found, and at bet= ter prices. >It's 2 years since I lived there, but it used to be that two sets of 'ez= ' DJ's were >playing out reguarly - 'Easy Alohas' were playing at the Westergasfabrie= k on >Sundays, Haven't heard much of the Easy Alohas lately, last thing I heard was they had a showbiz gossip column in a newspaper. >if you're into the more caberet/club montepulciano side of the lounge sc= ene, >there is/was something on Sunday nights called 'Club Vegas'. In fact, I= just >found a website - so it looks like it's still going: >http://www.clubvegas.nl/vegas.html That's in the Winston Kingdom - Warmoestraat 127 Latest news is the Club Vegas people are suffering from burnout. The Teutonics Beat Club (run by some Aussies) is the best night in the Winston Kingdom now. They even had a Bollywood evening recently. (Is it just my imagination, or is the Bollywood Vibe gathering momentum?) There is a new dutch law making all bars and venues have to pay live musicians the full official fees like insurances / pensions / taxes etc. So most of the non state-sponsored (=3Dsmaller & alternative) venues (like the Winston) can't afford to let live bands play anymore. Now the Winston is going to reschedule their whole program soon, I am negotiating a theme night there myself with some friends. I forgot to mention the Bar Nonsense on the Leidseplein where some of the Club Vegas DJs are organizing some nice evenings. Hemmel@gmx.net wrote: > if you are into Bollywood... I=EDve been told that it is a good place t= o find > old Indian OST vinyl cheap at the fleamarkets there, because there are = living > a lot of Indians. ( for me this would be a reason alone to visit Amster= dam ) Unfortunately you were misinformed. There is a small Hindu community tuck= ed away in the Amsterdam suburbs, but they are from Surinam in South America= , so their taste tends to go more towards Soca (fast Carribean style dance = music) and bland 80's synth stuff. Not too much Bollywood vinyl too be found, an= d certainly not cheap at the fleamarkets. Best place to find 2nd hand Bollywood viny= l is in Concerto, once in a while if you're lucky. For Bollywood, the only Mekka in Europe is Southhall, London (maybe place= s like Birmingham too) And of course, the pirate radiostation where I broadcast is always welcom= ing DJs on this list visiting Amsterdam to come to the studio for a workout. http://www.radio100.nl/_eng/index.html Here to set the record(s) straight, Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #980 *****************************