From: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com (exotica-digest) To: exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: exotica-digest V2 #988 Reply-To: exotica-digest Sender: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-exotica-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes exotica-digest Thursday, June 7 2001 Volume 02 : Number 988 In This Digest: (exotica) Jazz 2 (exotica) Re: ID wanted: Snake dance... Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Re: (exotica) Jazz 2 (exotica) Lil' Markie (exotica) [obit] Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, Michael Hazlewood Re: (exotica) Jazz 1 (exotica) Hello Kitty! Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 (exotica) Snake Dance info Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info (exotica) Snake Dance info (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer (exotica) compilation suggestions Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:04:16 +0200 From: Ton =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCckert?= Subject: (exotica) Jazz 2 The flute virtuoso Malik Mezzadri, who has occasionally played in St. Germain, said recently: "St. Germain has changed the way the public thinks about jazz in France =97 don't put it in a box. You listen, you dance, this is what my generation wants, the dance." Mr. Mezzadri is a charismatic figure on the Paris jazz scene. Mere mention of his name is enough to fill any club there, and the makeup of the musicians and the music on his latest album, "Magic Malik," reflect the racial diversity of Paris, that most cosmopolitan of European cities. "In my band, I have South American, African and Cuban musicians," he said. "I grew up in the West Indies, in Guadeloupe, and this is a population that came from Africa, with slaves." His music is rhythmically unambiguous while bursting with pan-ethnic frissons. Something of the excitement of the current Parisian jazz scene is captured on "Candombe" from the saxophonist Julien Lourau's album "Gambit," which was recorded live at the New Morning Club last year. With Mr. Mezzadri as a featured sideman, the music is intense and compelling as Mr. Lourau's tenor sax riffs mediate the ebb and flow of the powerful drum 'n' bass- influenced grooves. "I want to play for people my own age and even younger because I think jazz is not elitist," Mr. Lourau said. The new crop of Scandinavian jazz artists was inspired by an earlier generation, particularly the Norwegian saxophonist Jan Garbarek, who achieved international recognition on the Munich-based ECM label run by Manfred Eicher. In the mid-90's, young musicians like Mr. Wesseltoft, Mr. Movaer, the drummer Audun Kleive and the guitarist Eivind Aarset, all of whom are Norwegian, rejected the contemplative calm of what Mr. Eicher called the "Nordic tone" and began experimenting with dance-based grooves. Mr. Wesseltoft formed his own record label, Jazzland, and his album, "New Conception of Jazz," sold more than 40,000 copies across Europe =97 remarkable sales for a small independent label. "Jazz is American, of course," he said. "But I feel the techno and electronics scene is more European. The beats I'm using, the grooves, I feel I'm not stealing from the black American music scene." In 1998 Mr. Aarset recorded "Electronique Noir" and created one of the best post- Miles albums. "My approach has come out of the Nordic jazz thing inspired by people like Jan Garbarek and Terje Rypdal, and the serious ECM approach to music mixed with techno beats," he said. Mr. Molvaer's 1997 album, "Khmer," has sold more than 100,000 copies in Europe. It led to Mr. Molvaer's nomination for the prestigious Nordic Council Music Prize 2000 and several awards, including the annual prize of the German Record Critics, and was voted Jazz Record of the Year by LA Weekly. One of the most talked about groups currently on the European circuit is the Esbjorn Svensson Trio (or E.S.T., as they call themselves), which saw its latest album, "Good Morning Susie Soho," shoot to No. 15 on the pop album chart in the group's native Sweden, alongside the likes of Madonna and Radiohead = =97 a significant achievement for a jazz piano trio. Highlights of this album, along with those from his 1999 release, "From Gargarin's Point of View," are to be issued by Sony Jazz in the United States in August as "Somewhere Else Before." Curiously, British jazz musicians have only tentatively embraced the club-culture rhythms that largely emanated from London. The saxophonist Courtney Pine is the best-known exception. His album, "Back in the Day," shows that he has moved a considerable distance from the 1980's, when he was seen as Europe's Wynton Marsalis. (He even recorded with Mr. Marsalis's father, Ellis). His latest album uses samples and computer-generated rhythm tracks, underpinning some torrid soloing on soprano and tenor saxophone. ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is America's gift to the world. But what impact will this fast-changing European scene have on American jazz? Initially, the effect is most likely to be felt financially. Money, as Cyndi Lauper once famously sang, changes everything. Europe has historically been a key market for American jazz in album sales, in its extensive festival circuit and in year-round gigs. Just how important was once highlighted by a comment made by George Wein, the producer of the JVC festival: "No Europe, no jazz." If American jazz remains fixed in the certainties of the mainstream, European jazz musicians may move into the space long occupied by Americans. Indeed, Mr. Svensson is doing just that. Recently he was on the cover of two major German jazz magazines as well as the influential French magazine Jazzman. He was also hailed by the German news weekly Der Spiegel as "The Future of Jazz Piano" (along with the American pianist Brad Mheldau), and his "Good Morning Susie Soho" was named album of the year in a poll conducted by the critics of the British magazine Jazzwise, an award that has hitherto been the province of American jazz albums. The emergence of the European new jazz poses the intriguing question of whether American jazz can maintain its stance without lapsing even further into high-art marginality, given its dependence on the European market. As the American saxophonist and clarinetist Michael Moore, who now lives in the Netherlands, put it recently: "In America there's more pressure to be conformist, and players can work a lot more if they play tunes in a traditional way. In Europe there's a larger audience that grew up listening to experimental jazz over a 25- year period, and they appreciate not hearing the same thing all the time."=20 Suddenly there is real possibility that the stewardship of the music may no longer remain exclusively American. "Europe is going to be the place for jazz," Mr. Svensson said. "We're ready now. We like to sound different." = =20 Stuart Nicholson is a London-based music critic and author. His most recent book is ``Reminiscing in Tempo: A Portrait of Duke Ellington'' (Northeastern University Press).=20 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***=20 *** Ton R=FCckert Mozartstraat 12 5914RB Venlo The Netherlands *** *** mojoto@plex.nl http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto 31/0 773545386 *** ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ http://www.psychedelicado.com ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:38:03 -0700 From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Re: ID wanted: Snake dance... You're right, this thing often gets asked about in cartoon forums. Since a lot of familiar but hard-to-nail-down cartoon melodies came from theme books written for use in accompanying silent films (Carl Stalling started out doing that,e actually), I've posed the question on the alt.movies.silent newsgroup, wher a number of silent film music experts and accompnists hang out. I'll let you know if there are any replies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:51:07 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Welcome Randy...Cocktail Nation, still forming, is always hoping new members board the train...Our engine is just fine, but we're still deciding whether to go freight or passenger....You are a contribution to the latter hopefully...James Botticelli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:55:29 EDT From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 2 In a message dated 6/6/1 5:05:19 PM, mojoto@plex.nl wrote: >ALL these Europeans readily acknowledge that jazz is >America's gift to the world. There is a sign greeting visitors to Trenton, NJ, USA. It reads thusly: "Trenton Makes, The World Takes" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:35:27 -0700 From: "F. Cobalt" Subject: (exotica) Lil' Markie I love the Lil' Markie record! I never thought I'd see/hear of another copy! I guess I wanted to believe mine was the only one in existence. But better yet I want to believe there are others. It seems to me like Little Marcy was the inspiration, except there doesn't seem to be any kind of weird puppet action. Still, the idea of an adult trying to sound like a child singing about being a drug addict at age 3 is pretty jaw-dropping. Why did you kill me mommy? indeed! Mr. Unlucky Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 06:25:17 -0400 From: Lou Smith Subject: (exotica) [obit] Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, Michael Hazlewood DALLAS (AP) - Marvin ``Smokey'' Montgomery, the longtime banjo picker for the seminal Western swing band The Light Crust Doughboys, died Wednesday after a long battle with leukemia. He was 88. Montgomery joined the band in 1935, four years after it was founded, and was still performing as late as last month. The band was nominated for three Grammy awards in recent years. ``I'll get ladies in their 70s coming up and saying, `I listened to you in grade school,''' Montgomery said in 1996. ``I can't play quite as fast as I used to, but I can still keep up.'' The Light Crust Doughboys were founded in 1931 by W. Lee ``Pappy'' O'Daniel to advertise his Fort Worth-based flour company, Burrus Mill, and its Light Crust Flour. It was a pioneer in the style of Western swing, a combination of jazz, country blues and fiddle music. In their heyday, The Light Crust Doughboys could be heard on 170 radio stations with their signature opening, ``The Light Crust Doughboys are on the air!'' Montgomery joined the band in 1935, around the time Bob Wills, Western swing's greatest star, left to start the Texas Playboys. ``We'd pull into the square in some little town that didn't have but 5,000 people living in it, and there would be 10,000 people in the crowd,'' Montgomery once recalled. Montgomery regrouped the band after World War II intervened and split it up. Their repertoire included old cowboy songs, Spanish classics and what was then popularly called ``hillbilly'' music. But they played a hymn every day, Montgomery said, and avoided dance halls or honky-tonks. ``That's why Bob Wills left the band. He wanted to play the dances, and the Doughboys didn't do that,'' Montgomery said. The Doughboys quit recording in 1985, and Montgomery appeared only occasionally with the band. But newcomer Art Greenhaw persuaded the members to regroup in 1993. The group shared a Grammy nomination this year in the category of Southern, country or bluegrass gospel album for ``The Great Gospel Hit Parade: From Memphis to Nashville to Texas,'' recorded with James Blackwood and The Jordanaires. Similar collaborations brought Grammy nominations in 1998 and 1999. Montgomery was born Marvin Wetter in Rinard, Iowa. His show business name came from his favorite actor, Robert Montgomery. ================ Variety has a belated report of the death of Michael Hazlewood, who co-wrote (with Albert Hammond) the songs "The Air That I Breathe" and "It Never Rains in Southern California." Hazlewood died of a heart attack on May 6 while on vacation in Italy. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010605/re/people_hazlewood_dc_1.html ====== Don Dixon, co-producer of the first two REM albums, suffered a heart attack and had a quadruple bypass last Thursday. He is currently recovering at home.He is still married to Marti Jones and is working on her next album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:26:24 +0100 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz 1 Ton Rückert wrote: > > > > The following article in today's New York Times happens to coincide > with Ken Burns' series starting coming Saturday on BBC 2. After the > stir "Jazz" caused among the Northamericans on this list I'm curious > about how it's going to be perceived over here. > Well, The Guardian had an article the other week, entitled 'Jazz: The Obituary' ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4192193,00.html ) The series they're about to show here is slightly shortened evidently, and they're also showing it on consecutive days which is really odd. (and inconvenient) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:11:32 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: (exotica) Hello Kitty! I believe we were discussing Hello Kitty http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Drive/4406/hk_vibrator.htm Is it really new though? rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 05:44:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Waugh Subject: Re: (exotica) Road trip-Route 66 Yes. Every time I begin to lose patience with the 90 degree snakebreeding jungle heat out my way, I check the weather in Phoenix and think of my pals there in their asbestos togas in the steady 115 degree blaze (they say with all the asphalt there it doesn't get all that cool at night anymore). Stopped there on the way to Las Vegas last summer. I could smell my hair curling as I stepped off the plane. Strangely beautiful state, though. - --- Colleen Pyles wrote: > I was raised in Arizona and saw a lot of Rt. 66 in > the southwest, > have not seen the northern part. I'm anxious to see > that, although > the south west part is sooo unique. "Last stop for > gas/water 300 > miles"..... ===== "What I need is a shot of Drambuie and some clean sheets." - Jack Nance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:14:55 -0700 From: Paul Penna Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Graham Newton wrote: >There have been apparently many names for this piece over the years. >Everyone has probably heard it in Warner Brothers or other cartoons, and on >various old radio shows as a "gag" piece, but nobody has been able to identify >it positively or suggest a composer. Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just about everything one would want to know: http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:23:02 -0400 From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Dance info It's funny, because that made me think of that other song. It's sort of Persian and I believe it was used in that Bugs Bunny cartoon with the genie (voiced by Jim Backus). I'm sure you guys know the one I'm talking about I hope. It's usually used to establish that something is taking place in Persia and played as you see a wide shot of a Persian city. It's placed on that same type of snake charmer flute. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:50:57 -0400 From: Graham Newton Subject: (exotica) Snake Dance info Paul Penna wrote: > Someone on alt.movies.silent responded with this URL, which tells just > about everything one would want to know: > http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm Others had already pointed me to that... thanks anyway, and yes it does answer all the questions. For those who are interested, the sheet music can be found here:- http://levysheetmusic.mse.jhu.edu/advancedsearch.html Search on "cairo" to find it. ... Graham Newton - -- Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com World class professional services applied to phonograph and tape recordings for consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR processes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:58:42 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention= this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a w= hile and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" = and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music o= f all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical rang= e of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are co= mposed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a = postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know w= hat they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for w= hat s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have= heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. = It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmo= nies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say= the least. Their sound reminds one a bit of the Beatles and as a matter = of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios.= I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft work= s of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High = Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own v= ersion of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use t= o lend from their friends. Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de =2E......................................................................= =2E. Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:59:35 +0200 From: Moritz R Subject: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., you name it... And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House Industries fonts called Las Vegas... Also I (uhumm!) got a copy of Combustible Edison's "The Impossible World" CD today and for the first time in my life I listened to it! I can't believe how this could happen, it's so unlikely. I mean, I listen to this kind of music half of my life, I'm in the same mailing list with one of the band members and the cover designer of the CD is a friend of mine... and still it could happen that this album didn't get in my way until this very day. It's a great album, not a bit dated... wow, I can't believe what I missed! But of course you all know this anyway, so I better shut up and keep on listening... BTW: Brother Cleve, is there any chance to listen to the material of that House Ind. CD for less than 125$? Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:05:18 -0400 From: nytab@pipeline.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): 1992 Santa Barbara 1994 Gideon Gaye 1996 Hawaii 1998 Cold & Bouncy 1999 Snowbug 2000 Buzzle Bee lousmith@pipeline.com Moritz R wrote: > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound that different, because the musical range of this band is slightly narrow. Maybe this is because all songs are composed by one person, who I think is the band leader, Sean O'Hagan. In a postive way you could say, the High Llamas found their style, they know what they want and the listener is rewarded by some nice song lyrics for what s/he might miss in musical diversity. I'm not saying that if you have heard one song, you've heard them all, no not at all, not that similar. It's more the general way these songs are made, their rhythm, their harmonies, their attitude, that makes them all sound very - homogenous, to say the least. Their sound reminds one a bit ! ! of the Beatles and as a matter of fact at least one album of theirs was mixed in the Abbey Road Studios. I also recognize a proximity to the later and more melodic and soft works of the band XTC, as in their best album of all times, Unsuch. The High Llamas are British and you can hear it, but they develop their very own version of exoticism with a couple of strange instruments, that they use to lend from their friends. Mo - -- studio R senses for a senseless world http://moritzR.de ......................................................................... Thierschstrasse 43, D 80538 Munchen, Germany e-mail: tiki@netsurf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:07:33 EDT From: RLott@aol.com Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc version of this that's not to be missed. Also, don't overlook the Llamas remix album, "Lollo Rosso," with cool contributions from Kid Loco, Cornelius and others. - --Rod www.hitchmagazine.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:15:28 +0100 From: Michael Jemmeson Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas Moritz R wrote: > > Since there are 3 albums out now by the High Llamas, it's time to mention this eminent soft pop band again. I knew "Cold And Bouncy" for quite a while and always enjoyed it. The other two albums are called "Buzzle Bee" and "Snowbug", I think I like "Buzzle Bee" the best, although the music of all three albums doesn't sound There's also 'Gideon Gaye' and 'Hawaii', and a remix album, the title of which i've forgotten offhand... Haven't heard the remix album, but the others are all very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:32:09 From: "Robert McKenna" Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas >Just a quick response to say the High Llamas have more than 3 albums (and I >hear more Beach Boys than Beatles in their [his?] stuff): >1992 Santa Barbara >1994 Gideon Gaye >1996 Hawaii >1998 Cold & Bouncy >1999 Snowbug >2000 Buzzle Bee > And prior to that (1990?) Sean O'Hagan had a solo album out called 'High Llamas'. Plus of course he was in seminal 80s Cork band Microdisney (notice the Microdisney mix of a Cornelius tune), they had about 6 albums and a bunch of EPs. And he does Stereolab's string arrangements and plays the odd bit and piece with them. Also did an album with two of them. I have a feeling he was involved in one of the Experimental Audio Research releases. And he played with Will Oldham. Actually he did a lot of other stuff and pops up as a banjo player for people other than Cornelius. He was hired to produce the Beach Boys reunion album with Brian Wilson which never happened about 4-5 years ago but Mike Love (of course) walked out saying he wasn't going to work with an 'English faggot'. Charming man, but I think Sean found the experience of working with them an absolute nightmare. rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:45:16 -0400 From: bump@defectiverecords.com (Bump Stadelman) Subject: Re: (exotica) Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra way cool indeed. i am lucky enough to have a copy of this cd and it is groovin' for sure. can't wait for the full length LP! deep lounge to fast and fun exoticlubhouse, to coin a new phrase. (maybe) (it was nice to hear ol' liberace speaking to me once again) very swank packaging to boot. and i just may buy those fonts too! go bro go! cheers bump >Way coool. Got a copy of House Industries mag #25 in the mail today with >an incredible full page Andy Cruz painting of Br. Cleve's very own band on >the cover, standing in front of a vermilion colored 2001-type of monolith >declared as the road sign of a House Casino Hotel with "its original >shareholders" in front, which apparently are Andy Cruz, Br. Cleve etc., >you name it... > >And there's a CD with music by Brother Cleve & His Lush Orchestra that you >can buy for 125$. 125$? Yes, 125$. It comes along with a set of House >Industries fonts called Las Vegas... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:49 -0500 From: "Colleen Pyles" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer Randy wrote: Anyway, I love cocktail-making and how exotica stuff symbolizes just having good times with a shaker, some good music and friends. **************** Wow, Randy, you just summed up the group!!!! Welcome, you are in the right place. And you entered into your first controversy. Some of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the stuff that's harder to get (like drugs). So you start going to seedy, out of the way places, where you KNOW you'll find that certain record...but you don't...so you start asking around, and someone always knows a place where they found one, but it's not there. So you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Glassy eyed, you stumble around, spouting things about Perez Prado and Martin Denny...but it's okay, we're your friends, and some of us even have things to sell...heh, heh, heh,heh........ Colleen _____________________________________ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:10:31 +0800 From: "William" Subject: (exotica) compilation suggestions > Kind of a general question, but does anyone have some good suggestions on > some compilation CDs that would be good for someone looking to start > collecting exotica music? There are just so many out there and I would > appreciate any advice. > > Randy welcome to the list randy! i'm sure by now, others have given you some fine reccomendations. i'd reccomend the RCA SPACE AGE POP series: vol. 1. melodies and mischeif vol. 2. mallets in wonderland vol. 3. the stereoaction dimension there's some great stuff on these. esquivel, henri rene, mancini, perez prado, the three suns, ... i believe they are out of print now but you can still find them used. i picked up some of mine on line at http://www.djangos.com/ for a decent price. william in taipei. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:20:39 -0400 From: "R. Schultz" Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:57:44 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" writes: > you start gettin' desperate, see, and ya think if you spend a lotta > > money, you'll find it...so you go to ebay...and they've got it, but > > it won't come cheap. And before you know it, you're hooked, a > monkey's on your back and ya gotta have the stuff. Thanks for the warm, if bleak, introduction. ;-) Yeah, I can def see where comps are kind of lame to those of you who are more familiar with this music. But I gotta start somewhere. Man, put me on a time machine and send me back to those times for a week or two! Randy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:49:29 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) Soft Pop: The High Llamas At 12:07 PM 6/7/01 EDT, RLott@aol.com wrote: > >I've loved the Llamas since I heard "Hawaii" in 1996. There's a two-disc >version of this that's not to be missed. . This is still my favorite. The second disc is not absolutely necessary, just an interesting bonus. I understand Mo saying all the records sound alike. That's true for most bands but I'd say it's particularly true for the Llamas. I recently tried to make a compilation for someone using the three records I have (I skipped Buzzle Bee) and I couldn't really distinguish one cut from another. Which is not a bad thing but usually it's not a problem for me to come up with the cuts I like more than others. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to make Mo zoom in out of nowhere with a review of the High Llama "oeuvre". Maybe tomorrow someone can give us an overview of the five records put out by the Tindersticks. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:13:46 +0100 From: SH Subject: (exotica) Es wurde kein Bezug angegeben. exotica 1st • Brother Cleve’s new band is on the cover of House Industries new catalogue (which advertises Las Vegas styled/themed fonts) go to http://www.houseindustries.com 2nd • go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i131349,00.html to listen to a newly downloadable track called The Tiki & The Guitar currently its a short version, I will upload the full length recording tomorrow (friday) 3rd • you might even go to http://lupo.besonic.com:80/User/0,1391,g0r0l1t0o0i206665,FF.html to listen to Wah Factor 3 Hope you find something to enjoy, Kawentzmann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:15:18 -0400 From: alan zweig Subject: Re: (exotica) compilation for a newcomer At 11:57 AM 6/7/01 -0500, Colleen Pyles wrote: .>.. And you entered into your first controversy. Some >of of love comps, some of us hate them. If you're just getting >started, like me...you love them. But after a while, you want the >stuff that's harder to get (like drugs).. As someone who avoided the compilations, I have to say that I didn't "hate" them. They just didn't do it for me. And it's not some inherent response to the idea of a compilation. It's about context. Or if you will, "decontextualization". You could say that I didn't like the music enough - on its own - to be able to appreciate it divorced from the original context in which it was released. I needed the object - the pictures, the album cover, the liner notes, the warm crackle of slightly used vinyl. You could say I needed to touch the past. The music wasn't enough for me. Or maybe it's a stubborn streak. I can't allow anyone to do the work for me. But now things have changed somewhat and I make my own compilations and I've gotten rid of 90 percent of the lounge/easy/exotica records I had and I can listen to a tune and it's almost like all that stuff I once needed is in a file somewhere in my head. I can draw on it without needing to hold it in my hand. (I do wish someone had come around at the moment I was getting rid of all the objects. And I could have said "200 dollars and you can have an instant exotica collection".) Anyway welcome to the list Randy. I hope you help revive us old heard-it-all, had-it-all farts. And let me just say a couple more things about compilations versus the original records. What I have to say is actually kind of contradictory (which is no news to anyone who knows me). On the one hand, it turns out that quite a number of the artists and even the particular cuts that you find on these compilations are in fact some of the very best individual cuts you will ever find even if you have the best collection of original records imaginable. It doesn't get much better than "Danny's Inferno" by the Three Suns which I originally heard on a comp. On the other hand, you can go out and pick up any record that kind of looks like it "fits" and maybe you'll never find any of the artists or cuts that are on these comps and you can still have as good a collection of this stuff as someone who went out and got the records he first heard on the compilations. If that makes sense to you. AZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info exotica" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email exotica@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of exotica-digest V2 #988 *****************************