Ganador

I believe the Lyman GP is a very close clone looks wise to an original= =20 Hawken not exact, but with some cosmetic changes one can create a good = looking=20 shooter that can cause many "double takes" by viewers out= of a=20 production gun. The flint lock version has caused many owners much = trouble=20 as the steel (frizzen) is made of the wrong kind of steel. This = factor=20 that Lyman refuses to recognize has converted many wannabee flint shooters = into=20 the world of percussion.The TC is the same. The cap lock is ok, = but I=20 personally hate a coil spring. The RPL locks now available work= just=20 fine and spark well. The modification of adding the RPL lock runs the= =20 price of the Lyman up close to the price of some custom built guns.

Old Coyote

Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains=20 Rifle?
Thinking of getting one for the son in law.
Im told they are= a=20 clone to the TC products, and the locks=20 interchange.
Thanks
Wolverine

----__JNP_000_2e4f.2d8f.7deb-- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wolverine Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products info needed Date: 13 May 2003 23:34:35 +0100 --------------020805020604010001050405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the advise. But I think the Lyman GPR looks more like the Dimmick lines Im unclear on the RPL lock. As the kit of the Lyman is only $289 in some places. Then the RPL lock? must be a high priced item W Charlie P Webb wrote: > A couple of comments, > > I believe the Lyman GP is a very close clone looks wise to an original > Hawken not exact, but with some cosmetic changes one can create a good > looking shooter that can cause many "double takes" by viewers out > of a production gun. The flint lock version has caused many owners > much trouble as the steel (frizzen) is made of the wrong kind of > steel. This factor that Lyman refuses to recognize has converted many > wannabee flint shooters into the world of percussion.The TC is the > same. The cap lock is ok, but I personally hate a coil spring. The > RPL locks now available work just fine and spark well. The > modification of adding the RPL lock runs the price of the Lyman up > close to the price of some custom built guns. > > > > Old Coyote > > > > Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains Rifle? > Thinking of getting one for the son in law. > Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks > interchange. > Thanks > Wolverine > > > --------------020805020604010001050405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the advise. But I think the Lyman GPR looks more like the Dimmick lines
Im unclear on the RPL lock. As the kit of the Lyman is only $289 in some places.
Then the RPL lock? must be a high priced item
W

Charlie P Webb wrote:

A couple of comments,

I believe the Lyman GP is a very close clone looks wise to an original Hawken not exact, but with some cosmetic changes one can create a good looking shooter that can cause many "double takes" by viewers out of a production gun. The flint lock version has caused many owners much trouble as the steel (frizzen) is made of the wrong kind of steel. This factor that Lyman refuses to recognize has converted many wannabee flint shooters into the world of percussion.The TC is the same. The cap lock is ok, but I personally hate a coil spring. The RPL locks now available work just fine and spark well. The modification of adding the RPL lock runs the price of the Lyman up close to the price of some custom built guns.

Old Coyote

Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains Rifle?
Thinking of getting one for the son in law.
Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks interchange.
Thanks
Wolverine

--------------020805020604010001050405-- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products info needed Date: 13 May 2003 18:36:58 EDT --part1_143.10f5ee49.2bf2cd8a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains Rifle? They are probably the closest example of an authentic Plains rifle available today commercially. They also have a 1/66 roundball twist, while the TC and others have a 1/48. They are iron mounted instead of brass. The LGP is made for Lyman by Investarms and parts will interchange between them. >Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks interchange Both locks measure 1" x 5" but I believe there are subtle differences in design would would prevent drop-in interchange. --part1_143.10f5ee49.2bf2cd8a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Any one have any thoughts on the Le= man Great Plains Rifle?

They are probably the closest example of an authentic Plains rifle available= today commercially. They also have a 1/66 roundball twist, while the=20= TC and others have a 1/48. They are iron mounted instead of brass.&nbs= p; The LGP is made for Lyman by Investarms and parts will interchange betwee= n them.

>Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks interchange
Both locks measure 1" x 5" but I believe there are subtle differences in des= ign would would prevent drop-in interchange. --part1_143.10f5ee49.2bf2cd8a_boundary-- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bear Kelsey" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products info needed Date: 13 May 2003 16:52:13 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C0_01C31970.00998B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains Rifle? Thinking of getting one for the son in law. Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks interchange. Thanks Wolverine I am a dyed in the wool "Lyman" fan. I have been shooting them for = nearly 20 years and have yet to have a misfire or hang fire. I have both = the Great Plains and also a Trade Rifle in .54 caliber. I use a .530 = round ball with spit patch and pillow ticking in both guns. The trade = rifle shoots quite well with 50 grains 2FF up to about 75 yds., then I = go to 70 grains 2FF. The same for the Great Plains, except at 100 yds. = it seems to do better with 90 grains 2FF than 70. The best part is that = I can shoot all day and not have to stop and swab the barrel because it = is to dirty to load. I highly recommend "Lyman" "Two Bears" ------=_NextPart_000_01C0_01C31970.00998B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains=20 Rifle?
Thinking of getting one for the son in law.
Im told they = are a=20 clone to the TC products, and the locks=20 interchange.
Thanks
Wolverine

I am a dyed in the wool "Lyman" fan. I have been = shooting them=20 for nearly 20 years and have yet to have a misfire or hang fire. I have = both the=20 Great Plains and also a Trade Rifle in .54 caliber. I use a .530 round = ball with=20 spit patch and pillow ticking in both guns. The trade rifle shoots quite = well=20 with 50 grains 2FF up to about 75 yds., then I go to 70 grains 2FF. The = same for=20 the Great Plains, except at 100 yds. it seems to do better with 90 = grains 2FF=20 than 70. The best part is that I can shoot all day and not have to stop = and swab=20 the barrel because it is to dirty to load. I highly recommend=20 "Lyman"

"Two Bears"

------=_NextPart_000_01C0_01C31970.00998B00-- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ikon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products info needed Date: 13 May 2003 21:04:30 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31993.3F66E260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wolverine, My thoughts are that you can't go wrong. I currently own two; one is a = full size 50 cal. and the other is a 50 cal. carbine. Both are cap = guns, the full size will be converted to flint when I get a chance. I have only had one shot that did not fire. My fault, I kept the gun = loaded for a week and moisture got in the nipple. Won't do that again. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bear Kelsey=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lyman Products info needed Any one have any thoughts on the Leman Great Plains Rifle? Thinking of getting one for the son in law. Im told they are a clone to the TC products, and the locks = interchange. Thanks Wolverine =20 I am a dyed in the wool "Lyman" fan. I have been shooting them for = nearly 20 years and have yet to have a misfire or hang fire. I have both = the Great Plains and also a Trade Rifle in .54 caliber. I use a .530 = round ball with spit patch and pillow ticking in both guns. The trade = rifle shoots quite well with 50 grains 2FF up to about 75 yds., then I = go to 70 grains 2FF. The same for the Great Plains, except at 100 yds. = it seems to do better with 90 grains 2FF than 70. The best part is that = I can shoot all day and not have to stop and swab the barrel because it = is to dirty to load. I highly recommend "Lyman" =20 "Two Bears" ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31993.3F66E260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wolverine,

My thoughts are that you can't go wrong. I = currently=20 own two; one is a full size 50 cal. and the other is a 50 cal. = carbine. =20 Both are cap guns, the full size will be converted to flint when I get a = chance.

I have only had one shot that did not = fire. My=20 fault, I kept the gun loaded for a week and moisture got in the = nipple. =20 Won't do that again.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Bear Kelsey=20

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