From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1092 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, October 2 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1092 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Re: Occupations -       Re: MtMan-List: Quiet -       Re: MtMan-List: Open Rendezvous invite -       MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? -       MtMan-List: thanks -       Re: MtMan-List: Quiet -       Re: MtMan-List: Quiet -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: Occupations -       Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? -       MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale -       Re: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale -       Re: MtMan-List: Quiet -       Re: MtMan-List: Quiet -       Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? -       Re: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:35:32 -0700 From: "Prince, John" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Occupations > > One occupation I've never ran across anyone doing that might be a whole bunch > of fun to do is that of one of the distillers of the famed Taos Lightning. > > Nauga Mok > Aye, this might work! I also do a bit of home made brew [wine/beer] making. The whiskey trade does sound appealing! Just think of the profits [providing I didn't drink it up...]! Wouldn't lack for customers. This suggestion is kind of amusing in that in my privateer [late 19th century] personna's history involved him being apprenticed to a Scottish whiskey distiller in which he has a "disagreement" which leads him to run away to sea. Thanks all for the help! John Prince - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:05:32 -0600 From: Ole Jensen Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Quiet Hello the Camp! We are having a nap? I havent heard anything to get excited about for weeks. I found some nice boots at: www.cows.com I may take my Dutch Oven to Geezer Camp this weekend and bake up some bread with butter and Honey? Some hot Chocolate? Ole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:47:56 EDT From: TrapRJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Open Rendezvous invite Dripping Springs Rendezvous (The site of the 2002 Southwestern) November 7 - 11, 2002 7 & 8th are school days Dripping Springs State Park, Okmulgee, OK Early set up 4 - 6th *Pre-1840 rules apply to all - trade goods included *No vehicles in camp - 1 hour unload time after the 6th *Firewood & water available on site or nearby *Period dress required for primitive camp and traders row *Modern camping with water and electric hookup nearby *Hot showers nearby *Camp fee $10.00, Traders fee $35.00, Modern camp fee as set by State Park. ( Primitive camp fee waved if giving a needed demo for school days. ) * Trade Blanket 3' X 4' * Dutch-oven cook off & pot luck dinner Saturday evening ( Prizes awarded after dinner. Last year paying out over $1000.00 ) * Round robin on Friday night * Competition fee $5.00 * No walk in competitors * Mountain man walk competitions start on Friday * Aggregate competition shoot open to all primitive campers with payment of Competition fee * Aggregate competitions also include fire starting, archery, hawk & knife throw * Jackpot competitions of Sunday. Call Joe ( Ridge Pole ) or Cynthia ( Cherry ) Caldwell for additional information @ 918-756-2840 or e-mail TrapRJoe@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 20:14:45 +0000 From: "scott mcmahon" Subject: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? List, How many would be interested in attending a serious Southwestern furtrade/Santa Fe/Indian trade event somewhere in the "Southwest"? Maybe Oklahoma, northern Texas/New Mexico, southern Colorado? We could set the timeline at 1839 or 1840... it would be a juried, period, hardcore event... no excess camp equipment, no hollywood foofaraw. I've already recieved one or two hits on this but just wondered what sort of take everyone else had on it. Anyone else interested in helping put something like this together? What about you Oklahoma AMM boys... Cliff, Tim? Just checking... Dios, Libertad y Tejas Cpt. Scott McMahon S.W. Frontiers Mntd. Ranging Co. "Hays's Rangers have come, their appearance never to be forgotten. Not any sort of uniforms, but well mounted and doubly well armed: each man has one or two Colt's revolvers besides ordinary pistols, a sword, and every man a rifle....The Mexicans are terribly afraid of them." General Ethan Allen Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:26 -0500 From: "John McKee" Subject: MtMan-List: thanks Thanks to the gentlemen that gave me the advise on whitening animal skulls. Here's to your mocs always stayin' dry and yer belly's full of fat cow! John The Stitchin' Scotsman 100% Handsewn Elkhide garments and moccasins Manu Forti www.stitchinscotsman.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:51:15 -0600 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Quiet - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ole Jensen I havent heard anything to get excited about for weeks. > I found some nice boots at: www.cows.com > I may take my Dutch Oven to Geezer Camp this weekend and bake up some bread > with butter and Honey? Some hot Chocolate? Dear Ole I don't care if your boots do stink, with all this cold and rain I believe a little bread and chocolate would go down good. That's the problem with being period correct-- someone will always go and make some fine nonperiod food or offer a nonperiod jug that is jus so hard to turn down. Still that fancy feather pillow of yours is pushing it some. It wouldn't be so bad if it did not have that Barney pillowcase. I will have to see what happens maybe I will wonder down after cutting some firewood. See if you really are baking bread. By the way there be more than one PRPD that can attest to the fact that French Dumplings can pass for a mighty fine substitute for bread and it is documented. For those wondering that is Pioson River Party Dog; Pig would sound better but Doggin is what they do. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 21:49:44 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Quiet By the way there be more >than one PRPD that can attest to the fact that French Dumplings can pass for >a mighty fine substitute for bread and it is documented. > >For those wondering that is Pioson River Party Dog; Pig would sound better >but Doggin is what they do. > >Wynn Ormond Hey! Who're you calling dog????? Them dumplings was period and delicious......we were merely appreciative! Allen Occasional camp dog, taught by the best: Crazy and Yaro! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:37:49 EDT From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Occupations - --part1_36.2e53df78.2acbd21d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simon Turley, Charlie Autobees and Tom Tobin are all Southwestern whiskey traders. Turley had his distillery at Arroyo Hondo north of Taos until he was burned out and killed by the insurrectionists. He was the source of much of the Aguadiente we hear so much about. Autobees and Tobin (two half-brothers to each other) worked for him. John R. Sweet - --part1_36.2e53df78.2acbd21d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simon Turley, Charlie Autobees and Tom Tobin are all Southwestern whiskey traders.  Turley had his distillery at Arroyo Hondo north of Taos until he was burned out and killed by the insurrectionists. He was the source of much of the Aguadiente we hear so much about. Autobees and Tobin (two half-brothers to each other) worked for him.

John R. Sweet - --part1_36.2e53df78.2acbd21d_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:40:19 EDT From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? - --part1_28.2d675e59.2acbd2b3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about the Comanche Nat'l Grasslands in Colorado? Around the Purgatoire River? (Bent's Fort country) John R. Sweet - --part1_28.2d675e59.2acbd2b3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about the Comanche Nat'l Grasslands in Colorado? Around the Purgatoire River? (Bent's Fort country)

John R. Sweet - --part1_28.2d675e59.2acbd2b3_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 19:52:01 +1200 From: Duncan Macready Subject: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale There is an original Hawken for sale on http://www.antiqueguns.com/auction/item.cgi?robles/robles-23799 Well Hawk do you know this one ? any comments, other than their photos are a bit mixed up Cheers Dunc - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:50:20 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale Is that a "J&S" Hawken or a "B&S" Hawken? I'm no Hawken expert by a long mile, but this gun doesn't seem to jive with descriptions of Hawken guns that I've read. I, too, would like to hear the opinions of folks who are knowledgeable about Hawkens. Lanney Ratcliff - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Macready" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 2:52 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale > There is an original Hawken for sale on > http://www.antiqueguns.com/auction/item.cgi?robles/robles-23799 Well Hawk > do you know this one ? any comments, other than their photos are a bit mixed up > > Cheers Dunc > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:41:47 -0600 From: Ole Jensen Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Quiet on 10/1/02 8:51 PM, Wynn & Gretchen Ormond at leona3@sourceoneinternet.com wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ole Jensen > > > I havent heard anything to get excited about for weeks. >> I found some nice boots at: www.cows.com >> I may take my Dutch Oven to Geezer Camp this weekend and bake up some > bread >> with butter and Honey? Some hot Chocolate? > > Dear Ole > > I don't care if your boots do stink, with all this cold and rain I believe a > little bread and chocolate would go down good. That's the problem with > being period correct-- someone will always go and make some fine nonperiod > food or offer a nonperiod jug that is jus so hard to turn down. Still that > fancy feather pillow of yours is pushing it some. > > It wouldn't be so bad if it did not have that Barney pillowcase. I will > have to see what happens maybe I will wonder down after cutting some > firewood. See if you really are baking bread. By the way there be more > than one PRPD that can attest to the fact that French Dumplings can pass for > a mighty fine substitute for bread and it is documented. > > For those wondering that is Pioson River Party Dog; Pig would sound better > but Doggin is what they do. > > Wynn Ormond > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Wynn, I got 40 cords of wood you can have for free if you come pick it up, all dry some oak, cedar, pine. Ole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:43:37 -0600 From: Ole Jensen Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Quiet on 10/1/02 9:49 PM, Allen Hall at allenhall@srv.net wrote: > By the way there be more >> than one PRPD that can attest to the fact that French Dumplings can pass for >> a mighty fine substitute for bread and it is documented. >> >> For those wondering that is Pioson River Party Dog; Pig would sound better >> but Doggin is what they do. >> >> Wynn Ormond > > Hey! Who're you calling dog????? > > Them dumplings was period and delicious......we were merely appreciative! > > Allen > Occasional camp dog, taught by the best: Crazy and Yaro! > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Allen, what can you say after that! Dog said he was comming as well. Ole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:49:44 -0600 From: Ole Jensen Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3116389784_64403_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 10/1/02 10:40 PM, Hawkengun@aol.com at Hawkengun@aol.com wrote: How about the Comanche Nat'l Grasslands in Colorado? Around the Purgatoire River? (Bent's Fort country) John R. Sweet John, I have always wanted to do a camp in the dead of winter in "Snows Canyon" near St. George Utah. The place looks verry simmilar to our land but the temperature in winter will get up into the 60's durring the day in January. Ole - --MS_Mac_OE_3116389784_64403_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern doin's? on 10/1/02 10:40 PM, Hawkengun@aol.com at Hawkengun@aol.com wrote:

How about the Comanche Nat'l = Grasslands in Colorado? Around the Purgatoire River? (Bent's Fort country)
John R. Sweet

John,
I have always wanted to do a camp in the dead of winter in "Snows Cany= on" near St. George Utah. The place looks verry simmilar to our land bu= t the temperature in winter will get up into the 60's durring the day in Jan= uary.
Ole - --MS_Mac_OE_3116389784_64403_MIME_Part-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:09:17 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Original Hawken for sale In a message dated 10/2/02 3:52:29 AM, lanneyratcliff@charter.net writes: << I, too, would like to hear the opinions of folks who are knowledgeable about Hawkens. >> I'm thinking it might be the "shorter" city version..... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1092 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.