From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1103 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, November 3 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1103 In this issue: - MtMan-List: Rex Allen Norman - RE: MtMan-List: Rex Allen Norman - Re: MtMan-List: Dating HBC point blankets - MtMan-List: bows - Re: MtMan-List: bows - MtMan-List: Ice and the ancient art of rat spearing - MtMan-List: Socks - Re: MtMan-List: Socks - Re: MtMan-List: Socks - Re: MtMan-List: Socks - MtMan-List: Winter and the End of Fall - Re: MtMan-List: Winter and the End of Fall - MtMan-List: Moccasin with wool insert source. - RE: MtMan-List: Moccasin with wool insert source. - Re: MtMan-List: Socks - Re: MtMan-List: Ice and the ancient art of rat spearing - Re: MtMan-List: Socks - Re: MtMan-List: Socks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:37:15 -0500 From: "Jim Zeigler" Subject: MtMan-List: Rex Allen Norman This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C28285.B882DB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List: Could someone please send me Rex Allen=20 Norman's email address, I have accidently deleted the one I had. Please send off list.....Thank you in advance...Jim kodiak@ptd.net - ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C28285.B882DB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello List: Could someone please send = me Rex=20 Allen

Norman's email address, I have = accidently deleted=20 the one

I had. Please send off = list.....Thank you=20 in advance...Jim

kodiak@ptd.net
- ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C28285.B882DB40-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:36:05 -0700 From: "Bill Klesinger" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Rex Allen Norman This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28285.8E955DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TRY Rex Norman [rjnorman@prairieweb.com] - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jim Zeigler Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:37 PM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: Rex Allen Norman Hello List: Could someone please send me Rex Allen Norman's email address, I have accidently deleted the one I had. Please send off list.....Thank you in advance...Jim kodiak@ptd.net - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28285.8E955DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

TR= Y

Re= x Norman [rjnorman@prairieweb.com]

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Hello List: Could someone please send me Rex Allen
Norman's email address, I have accidently deleted the one
I had. Please send off list.....Thank you in = advance...Jim

kodiak@ptd.net

- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C28285.8E955DD0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:09:58 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dating HBC point blankets Angela I am not sure who "HBC point blankets" is but I'll date her if she aint to big or mean. ;) Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:16:25 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: bows Does anyone know a source to buy primitive bows for kids? Price is always a concideration. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:36 -0700 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bows Wynn, Watch Ebay. Search on "Wood Bows" or "Wooden Bows" etc. Course you'll have to out bid me! Todd On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:16:25 -0700 "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" writes: > Does anyone know a source to buy primitive bows for kids? Price is > always a > concideration. > > Wynn Ormond > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:52:38 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: MtMan-List: Ice and the ancient art of rat spearing Dear List, So much for fall in the Rockies! We had a beautiful fall with some wonderful valleys full of yellows and reds but the leaves are all gone now and there is snow on the ground. It even got down to -15 below at my house Wednesday night breaking a record low. The rivers are all iced over though not thick ice. Its very aggravating when the rivers ice over the day before trapping season opens! The Missouri River is open as usual but lots of shelf ice and slush flowing down it. Its suppose to warm up by mid week so maybe we can get a little open water to catch some beaver and otter in. When Mother Nature gives you lemons, we make lemonade! My friend Vince and I decided to make use of the bitter cold to trap some rats under the ice. We got a late start today but were able to get about 20 traps set. I’ll have to say I was not too thrilled with the sets however. None seem to be real hot locations. The dens were either frozen in or we couldn’t locate the runs. Vince never trapped rats under the ice so it was fun for him. He did break through the ice, twice! The first time he went in up just past his hip boots but he shot out of there like a ballistic missile. His wool britches saved the day and we continued trapping. The second time he went in up to his waist and this time he was soaked. He was scrambling around like a cat getting a bath. I just yelled at him to grab the ax before it went under. So much for having fun. Vince mentioned that he wished he had chest high waders. I told him, “Then you go in up to your neck the way your luck is running!” Vince said it was his fault for not being more watchful of the ice conditions. The smelly marsh water was ICE COLD. The ice was up two 3” inches in spots but thinner in other spots as Vince can tell you. Perfect ice almost, thick enough to hold you yet not so thick as to make chopping through it any work at all. We watched the sun set over the front range of the Rockies while chopping holes for traps. We spied a big fat rat sitting on the edge of the ice by an open lead. Two flocks of Swans flew over making their quiet calls. They were low enough to hear the swish of their wings. The ice began to talk as the sun set and the temperature started dropping. The ice is like a huge living thing that moves and groans and talks. I have a lot of respect for it, especially when I'm on it. I’ll really be surprised if we have more than a few rats as I just was not thrilled with many of our sets. Whenever I trap rats under the ice I think about the ancient art of rat spearing. This was a very popular way of getting rats in the early days of the fur trade on up into the 1930’s. Rat spears were a popular trade item. The hunt took place as thus. The hunter walked or skated on the ice and approached the rat dens or pushups from the southern side as this was the least frozen side. He must approach the last ten or fifteen feet fairly quietly and softly as to not alarm the rats within by sounds or heavy vibrations on the ice. When in range, the long steel rat spear was thrust into the side of the den about where the hunter assumed the animals would be huddled. After the thrust he would feel the shaft for movement which would indicate an impaled rat or two. If he thought he speared one (or several) he would tear out a hole in the den to remove his catch and kill it. The hunter would also keep an eye on the ice for any rats that happen to swim underfoot. A quick swing of the ax and hard thump on the ice above the rat would sometimes temporarily stun the rodent long enough for the hunter to chop him free of the ice and dispatch it by swinging it by the tail and hitting it on the ice. Great care must be taken when messing around with wounded muskrats. I knew a kid who shot one once and picked the still live animal up by its tail. The rat gave the boy a arm full of bites before he could let it go. We may have some pelts for the stretchers tomorrow. I never count my rats before I catch them though. -15 below in October! I’m not liking the looks of this winter so far! BB - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 23:25:58 -0700 From: Les Chaffin Subject: MtMan-List: Socks I am making a pair of new mocs and was wondering if the trappers wore sock? I have not read anything that has said. What do you think? Les Chaffin Green River, Wy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:22:27 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks Les The short answer to your question is Yes. Click here for documentation of the sale of at least one pair of socks to Samuel Nott at Ft Hall http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/RuslPaper.html I have seen other references to socks in first person accounts (journals and trade goods inventories) but they don't seem to have been sold in quantities large enough to suggest their universal use. References to "drawers" abound but socks are mentioned only sporadically which leads me to conclude that while some mountaineers bought socks many others either used nothing on their mocassined feet or they made use of other materials. Perhaps scraps of fabric or pelts were more often used for socks....especially during the coldest months. I am sure there are some socks experts who might give you better information. I can only point you to the occasional mention of socks and let education guessing take over from there. Lanney Ratcliff - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Chaffin" To: "Mountain Man List" Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Socks > I am making a pair of new mocs and was wondering if the trappers wore > sock? I have not read anything that has said. What do you think? > > Les Chaffin > Green River, Wy > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:38:39 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks Whoops!!! Of course in the last line "and let education guessing take over from there." I meant to say :"...educated guessing....." LR > Les > The short answer to your question is Yes. Click here for documentation of > the sale of at least one pair of socks to Samuel Nott at Ft Hall > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/RuslPaper.html I have seen other > references to socks in first person accounts (journals and trade goods > inventories) but they don't seem to have been sold in quantities large > enough to suggest their universal use. References to "drawers" abound but > socks are mentioned only sporadically which leads me to conclude that while > some mountaineers bought socks many others either used nothing on their > mocassined feet or they made use of other materials. Perhaps scraps of > fabric or pelts were more often used for socks....especially during the > coldest months. I am sure there are some socks experts who might give you > better information. I can only point you to the occasional mention of socks > and let education guessing take over from there. > > Lanney Ratcliff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Les Chaffin" > To: "Mountain Man List" > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 12:25 AM > Subject: MtMan-List: Socks > > > > I am making a pair of new mocs and was wondering if the trappers wore > > sock? I have not read anything that has said. What do you think? > > > > Les Chaffin > > Green River, Wy > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:56:42 -0800 From: "ikon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks I found myself standing knee deep in a cold North Ga. stream yesterday deer hunting and fishing for trout. After the first half hour I relized why wool wrappings / socks were used by trappers under mocs. Luckily, I had on a pair of mucks with a wool insert and a pair of wool socks. My feet were toasty warm, wet, but warm. Even though I was wet to my knees I was very comfortable. Keep the feet warm and you'll be warm. Could not get the trout to bite, and I had earlier missed a fat doe. I was shooting a 308, kicking myself in the butt as I know the GPR and would not have missed with it. The 308 is deep in the closet now. After the cold water experiance, I will be making a pair of mocs with wool inserts. Frank - ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Chaffin To: Mountain Man List Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Socks > I am making a pair of new mocs and was wondering if the trappers wore > sock? I have not read anything that has said. What do you think? > > Les Chaffin > Green River, Wy > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:32:20 -0800 From: "Lee Newbill" Subject: MtMan-List: Winter and the End of Fall Can't say I've been out bothering the furbearers, but it's been bitter cold her in North Idaho with temps down in the single digits. We butchered the hogs on Friday... while my friend Matt and I were busy with the pigs, I watched my big saddle horse skate down a frozen hillside to land in a heap on the bottom. Naturally, it twernt his fault, so he got up and bit one of the pigs to make up for it. Y'all have a great week Regards Lee Newbill of North Idaho AMM# 1821 http://www.hogheavenmuzzleloaders.com http://users.potlatch.com/bluethistle http://www.mountaintoptradingco.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:33:07 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Winter and the End of Fall Lee Newbill wrote: Naturally, it twernt his fault, so he got up and bit one of the pigs to make up for it. Just was NOT a good day to be a pig in northern Idaho. Too bad you don't have that on video. Folks talk about how smart hogs are....smarter than horses or dogs some say...but I have my doubts. Next time you bite into a piece of bacon remember that the hog was sure he had a future. Now how smart was that? It has cooled off a little in north central Texas but not like your single digits. We only got down to about 45 last night but we have had nearly a month of constant rain/drizzle/mist. The mildew is starting to get moldy. Lanney Ratcliff - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:56:25 -0500 From: hikingonthru@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Moccasin with wool insert source. Frank and others I am the sort of fellow who like to make his own mocs and such...just feels more PC that way. But I recently had need of a new pair and needed them quick. Someone told me about 2bears (they have a website..think it is twobears.com) as a source of mocs. I was able to get Ernie to send me a pair of moccasins made of moose (dark) that had a double sole and a wool coating liner and for about $42 shipped. All I had to do was resew the heal seam to fit my foot specifically and trim the pucker seam a tad more. These have held up REALLY well, look really good (esp after I greased them with my bear grease-ochre mix) and you cannot buy the leather and wool for that price hardly!!! I highly reccomend this as a source of wool-lined mocs. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:37:18 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Moccasin with wool insert source. I can second that, I bought a pair of mocs from this fellow. Same thing-moose with double layer on bottom and wool blanket lining sewn up all together. $40 & shipping. Very fast and friendly service to boot. hardtack Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Freedom is Not Free > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 11/3/02 7:56:25 AM > Subject: MtMan-List: Moccasin with wool insert source. > > Frank and others > > I am the sort of fellow who like to make his own mocs and such...just feels more PC that way. But I recently had need of a new pair and needed them quick. > > Someone told me about 2bears (they have a website..think it is twobears.com) as a source of mocs. I was able to get Ernie to send me a pair of moccasins made of moose (dark) that had a double sole and a wool coating liner and for about $42 shipped. All I had to do was resew the heal seam to fit my foot specifically and trim the pucker seam a tad more. These have held up REALLY well, look really good (esp after I greased them with my bear grease-ochre mix) and you cannot buy the leather and wool for that price hardly!!! > > I highly reccomend this as a source of wool-lined mocs. > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:38:17 EST From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks - --part1_198.10029e31.2af6b909_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cant remember what the source was but I too have read accounts of socks, and I beleive they also referred them as stockings (again going from my memory). Now the next is a shameless plug. I will have available hand knitted socks, a English lady is teaching my mother how to make them. I currently have two pair,(unfortunately they are made from wool from a craft store part acrylic and part wool) if these sell I have will have a source of 100% wool in the near future. Also available handknitted touque's, liberty, voyager caps (whatever you prefer to call them) I should have jpegs available soon to anyone interested. Frank Sablan Midland,Texas - --part1_198.10029e31.2af6b909_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cant remember what the source was but I too have read accounts of socks, and I beleive they also referred them as stockings (again going from my memory). Now the next is a shameless plug. I will have available hand knitted socks, a English lady is teaching my mother how to make them. I currently have two pair,(unfortunately they are made from wool from a craft store part acrylic and part wool) if these sell I have will have a source of 100% wool in the near future. Also available handknitted touque's, liberty, voyager caps (whatever you prefer to call them) I should have jpegs available soon to anyone interested.

Frank Sablan
Midland,Texas - --part1_198.10029e31.2af6b909_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:16 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Ice and the ancient art of rat spearing > It even got down to -15 below at my > house Wednesday night breaking a record low. The rivers are all iced over > though not thick ice. Its very aggravating when the rivers ice over the > day before trapping season opens! The Missouri River is open as usual but > lots of shelf ice and slush flowing down it. Its suppose to warm up by mid > week so maybe we can get a little open water to catch some beaver and > otter in. We are not the first to complain about the weather or the poor boots on our feet. PS Ogden wrote: Thursday, (Feb) 16th. Cold last night; very severe; rain froze; Our prospects gloomy; we must continue to starve; now all are reduced to skin and bones; more beggarly looking beings I defy the world to produce. Still I have no cause to complain of the men; day after day they labor in quest of food and beaver without a shoe to their feet; the frozen ground is hardly comfortable; but it is an evil without remedy. The Snake Indians paid us a visit empty handed; they, too, complain of starvation. Were our horses in good condition, in 10 days we could make the buffalo ground. In their present weak state we cannot go in less than 25; 1 small deer and not one beaver. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:28:28 -0700 From: "Michael Powell" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2834D.A86C8580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello the list, There are those of you that might recall that Lewis gave Clark a pair of = socks for Christmas while they were at Fort Clatsop. (see L&C journals) Later, Mike Powell Henry's Fork on the Snake =20 Upper Snake River Plains Country =20 - ----- Original Message ----- From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:40 AM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks I cant remember what the source was but I too have read accounts of socks= , and I beleive they also referred them as stockings (again going from my= memory). Now the next is a shameless plug. I will have available hand = knitted socks, a English lady is teaching my mother how to make them. I = currently have two pair,(unfortunately they are made from wool from a cra= ft store part acrylic and part wool) if these sell I have will have a sou= rce of 100% wool in the near future. Also available handknitted touque's= , liberty, voyager caps (whatever you prefer to call them) I should have= jpegs available soon to anyone interested. Frank Sablan Midland,Texas Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http:/= /explorer.msn.com - ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2834D.A86C8580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello the list= ,

There are those of you that might recall that Lewis gave Cla= rk a pair of socks for Christmas while they were at Fort Clatsop.
<= DIV>(see L&C journals)
Later,

Mike Powell
=
Henry's Fork on the Snake

Upper Snake River P= lains Country

-= - ---- Original Message -----

From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com

Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List:= Socks

I cant remember what the sour= ce was but I too have read accounts of socks, and I beleive they also ref= erred them as stockings (again going from my memory). Now the next = is a shameless plug. I will have available hand knitted socks, a En= glish lady is teaching my mother how to make them. I currently have= two pair,(unfortunately they are made from wool from a craft store part = acrylic and part wool) if these sell I have will have a source of 100% wo= ol in the near future. Also available handknitted touque's, liberty= , voyager caps (whatever you prefer to call them) I should have jpe= gs available soon to anyone interested.

Frank Sablan
Midland,Te= xas

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- ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2834D.A86C8580-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:59:51 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C28362.CE600C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bet those socks weren't purple! Lanney ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Powell=20 To: History List=20 Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks Hello the list, There are those of you that might recall that Lewis gave Clark a pair = of socks for Christmas while they were at Fort Clatsop. (see L&C journals) Later, Mike Powell Henry's Fork on the Snake=20 Upper Snake River Plains Country ----- Original Message ----- From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:40 AM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Socks I cant remember what the source was but I too have read accounts of = socks, and I beleive they also referred them as stockings (again going = from my memory). Now the next is a shameless plug. I will have = available hand knitted socks, a English lady is teaching my mother how = to make them. I currently have two pair,(unfortunately they are made = from wool from a craft store part acrylic and part wool) if these sell I = have will have a source of 100% wool in the near future. Also available = handknitted touque's, liberty, voyager caps (whatever you prefer to call = them) I should have jpegs available soon to anyone interested. Frank Sablan Midland,Texas=20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C28362.CE600C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bet those socks weren't=20 purple!

Lanney

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From:=20 Michael=20 Powell
To: History List

Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 = 4:28=20 PM

Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Socks

Hello the list,

There are those of you that might recall that Lewis gave Clark a = pair of=20 socks for Christmas while they were at Fort Clatsop.

(see L&C journals)

Later,

Mike Powell

Henry's Fork on the Snake

Upper Snake River Plains Country

----- Original Message -----
From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 03, = 2002 10:40=20 AM

To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=

Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Socks

I cant remember what the source was but I too = have read=20 accounts of socks, and I beleive they also referred them as = stockings (again=20 going from my memory). Now the next is a shameless plug. = I will=20 have available hand knitted socks, a English lady is teaching my = mother how=20 to make them. I currently have two pair,(unfortunately they = are made=20 from wool from a craft store part acrylic and part wool) if these = sell I=20 have will have a source of 100% wool in the near future. Also=20 available handknitted touque's, liberty, voyager caps (whatever you = prefer=20 to call them) I should have jpegs available soon to anyone=20 interested.

Frank Sablan
Midland,Texas=20

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