From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1125 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, December 18 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1125 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Beams -       MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... -       Re: MtMan-List: Beams -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... -       Re: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... and Beams -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact -       MtMan-List: Hump ribs -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       MtMan-List: home made likker ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:41:09 -0600 From: "Glenn Darilek" Subject: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Before anyone else goes too public, and without starting a discussion about BATF, or state's rights, http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/moonshine020409.html says: "Federal law allows individuals to make beer and wine for their own use without a license, but not distilled spirits." Glenn Darilek "Iron Burner" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:09:04 -0700 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beams Wynn, I personally like the waist high one as well. I went to Albertson's and got a butchers apron on the prairie and it keeps your clothes clean. Allen At 03:12 PM 12/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Today I have been fleshing a couple of deer hides and for a change I rigged >my beam so that it was a waist high push beam instead of the ussual lean >agianst the wall, chest high type. I really like the way this works, except >for the fact that your pants get more wet and smelly. > > I am curious which types others prefer or if they use different ones for >different jobs etc. Input? >Wynn Ormond > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 01:25:04 EST From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... In a message dated 12/17/02 1:20:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, kc16@qwest.net writes: << .staked it to the ground....that worked very well, except my back and knees bothered me from having to kneel the whole time. Thank God it was just a beaver. >> The message above got me to wondering about a method of skinning beaver that is used by some tribes in Canada. I have heard it a couple places. Apparently a deer canon bone cut on a bevel and used as a chisel is used to take the hide off the beaver...and in the process fleshes it quite nicely. Anyone know of this method...would be nice to kill two birds with one stone so to speak. I'd jus about rather take one of Pa's old-time woodshed whippings than flesh a beaver. - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 01:53:37 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beams In a message dated 12/16/02 11:20:16 PM, kc16@qwest.net writes: << with a wahinke (sp?) >> Needs a "T": wahinkti. Be carful with that one it is Lakota. So is winkte and that is a transvestite. RJames - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:13:25 -0800 From: "kc16" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Sorry Glenn, I personally don't think that the reporter was right. I wholeheartedly disagree with his assessment of the law. And his example of it was a family who was selling their shine, not just making it. Hell, you can buy stills in catalogs. Granted they are for only distilling about a quart at a time, but they are stills none the less. I'd have to see the actual script of the law before I believe some reporter who may not have his facts correct. Curtis Krouse "Blood" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Darilek" To: Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:41 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > Before anyone else goes too public, and without starting a discussion > about BATF, or state's rights, > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/moonshine020409.html > > says: > > "Federal law allows individuals to make beer and wine for their own use > without a license, but not distilled spirits." > > Glenn Darilek > "Iron Burner" > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:03:43 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... C.Kent I saw a documentary once on the far north indians in Canada and they were of course trapping beaver in the winter time. Anyway, one of the shots showed an old indian squaw clean skinning a beaver with an ulu. She already had it open and was sort of doing a pushing up and down motion with the knife(not a sweeping motion). Short strokes, as she skinned it clean. Never seen anyone do it like that before but who am I to argue with an old squaw. She was doing a fine job too and no beam was needed. This is why I am sure most MM clean skinned their beaver, no beam needed, just a sharp knife and lots of time, something every MM had. Still I have never seen or have I been refered to anything stating exactly how the MM skinned them. Probably both ways, clean and rough then on a beam but I bet you $5. bucks the campkeepers mostly cleaned skinned them. No matter how you do it beaver skinning is hard work but as I always say, at least they don't stink like a coyote and have fleas like a fox! Beaverboy > << .staked it to the > ground....that worked very well, except my back and knees bothered me > from having to kneel the whole time. Thank God it was just a beaver. > >> > > > The message above got me to wondering about a method of skinning beaver > that is used by some tribes in Canada. I have heard it a couple > places. Apparently a deer canon bone cut on a bevel and used as a > chisel is used to take the hide off the beaver...and in the process > fleshes it quite nicely. Anyone know of this method...would be nice > to kill two birds with one stone so to speak. > > I'd jus about rather take one of Pa's old-time woodshed whippings than > flesh a beaver. > > -C.Kent > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:39:18 -0500 From: "traprjon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... and Beams Hi C. Kent, Sounds like clean skinning which you can do with a knife. I have done it a few times. For me, it requires too much patience. It is simply a method of taking the time when skinning the beaver to make slow deliberate cuts so that the flesh and fat stays attached to the beaver carcass and the hide once removed is also fleshed at the same time. It is slow and tedious. Those that practice and like it eventually speed up and it works for them. You need a real sharp knife for this. Good luck!!! YMHS, John Enos TrapRJohn traprjon@attbi.com PS I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to Wynn Ormond for spelling his name wrong in my last post (beams). Sorry Wynn, I was burning the midnight oil and realized my mistake the next day. I also forgot to mention that you might want to comb the fur before skinning. If you flesh on the waist high beam (mine is about chest high so I can lean against it with my chest and push the knife away, it's easier on the back), combing gets rid of burrs and pine pitch that may be in the fur. If you don't remove these things before fleshing on a beam, when your double handle knife (which shouldn't be too sharp) hits the burr, you will rip a hole in the skin. I also do like someone mentioned in their post, which is keep my Dexter knife and sharpening stone handy while fleshing. I also have an old leather belt hanging from a rafter for stropping the knife much like the old barbers did to keep their straight razors sharp. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:25 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Fleshing beaver... > In a message dated 12/17/02 1:20:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, kc16@qwest.net > writes: > > << .staked it to the > ground....that worked very well, except my back and knees bothered me from > having to kneel the whole time. Thank God it was just a beaver. >> > > > The message above got me to wondering about a method of skinning beaver that > is used by some tribes in Canada. I have heard it a couple places. > Apparently a deer canon bone cut on a bevel and used as a chisel is used to > take the hide off the beaver...and in the process fleshes it quite nicely. > Anyone know of this method...would be nice to kill two birds with one stone > so to speak. > > I'd jus about rather take one of Pa's old-time woodshed whippings than flesh > a beaver. > > -C.Kent > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:36:10 -0800 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits There are many legitimate reasons to distill any number of things; starting with water. The first tax rebellion in this country was over whiskey, we lost. John... At 07:13 AM 12/17/02, you wrote: >Sorry Glenn, > >I personally don't think that the reporter was right. I wholeheartedly >disagree with his assessment of the law. And his example of it was a family >who was selling their shine, not just making it. > >Hell, you can buy stills in catalogs. Granted they are for only distilling >about a quart at a time, but they are stills none the less. I'd have to see >the actual script of the law before I believe some reporter who may not have >his facts correct. > >Curtis Krouse >"Blood" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glenn Darilek" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:41 AM >Subject: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > > > > Before anyone else goes too public, and without starting a discussion > > about BATF, or state's rights, > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/moonshine020409.html > > > > says: > > > > "Federal law allows individuals to make beer and wine for their own use > > without a license, but not distilled spirits." > > > > Glenn Darilek > > "Iron Burner" > > ________________________________ Remember August 1, 1794!!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:14:00 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Curtis, Can you please tell me the name of the catalog where I can purchase a still for making corn whiskey? I's got to know. Thanks a ton. Beaverboy > Sorry Glenn, > > I personally don't think that the reporter was right. I wholeheartedly > disagree with his assessment of the law. And his example of it was a > family who was selling their shine, not just making it. > > Hell, you can buy stills in catalogs. Granted they are for only > distilling about a quart at a time, but they are stills none the less. > I'd have to see the actual script of the law before I believe some > reporter who may not have his facts correct. > > Curtis Krouse > "Blood" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenn Darilek" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:41 AM > Subject: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > > >> Before anyone else goes too public, and without starting a discussion >> about BATF, or state's rights, >> >> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/moonshine020409.html >> >> says: >> >> "Federal law allows individuals to make beer and wine for their own >> use without a license, but not distilled spirits." >> >> Glenn Darilek >> "Iron Burner" >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:07:18 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits I went to Google and typed in Distilling... came back with about 92,500 hits. Checked a few, and MANY of the hits are suppliers of distilling items... ie... stills, sugar, hops, corn, etc... Here is a great page... http://www.encode.com/exec/moone.htm ... lots of items for sale and even "How-To" books... Regards, Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:14:37 -0500 From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Maybe this topic has already been discussed, but I would like to ask everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? does anyone out there use a (dare I say) a percussion rifle. I'll start off, for my RMFT persona, I use a lyman great plains rifel in .54 cal., all the metal furniture has been browned and a hawken sight has been installed. I also have a 12 ga. double percussion that I use, it is a great shoooting shotgun, have taken dove and quail with it. My third weapon is a North Star Trade Gun , a buddy has been letting me try it out and shoot on a "if you like it buy it basis", the only problem with it is I am a lefty and the trade gun a right handed. I have been fair shooting it but would rather have a leftie instead. OK let the discussion start........ Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas Frank Sablan Midland,Texas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:35:54 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact Dear List, I received a post from a lady looking to indentify an artifact she has. It is called a Trappers Spoon. It is basically a double spoon, one large, one small attached to the same C shaped handle. One on top, the other on the bottom. The spoons are pointed in the same direction though offset a bit. I think it has nothing to do with trapping unless the trapper is eating. I tried to post the photos of it but they didn't come through. Its nothing I've ever seen a trapper use before. Anyone heard of a Trappers Spoon? Beaverboy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:44:18 EST From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Hump ribs Hello the Camp Recently went on a Buffalo Hunt in South Dakota. I was a close to a real Buffalo hunt as one can expect today. Five were made meat of out of herd of 200 on four square miles and once they broke the fence down and went for a two mile jaunt. But watching them being butchered brought up a question. What about them hump ribs that the mountaineers spoke so highly of? My experience with rib is a lot of cooking an a good sauce. So what did they do? Here is my take. After taking a look at Miller's painting Taking the Hump Rib and looking at meat cuts. The cow's legs were spread to keep it on its belly. A cut was made along the center of the back from neck to rump. The hide was skinned down both sides to middle of the rib cage. Leaving the hump and the upper portion of the side ribs exposed. A belt ax was then used to cut (chop) the ribs along both side just below the loin. The spine was cut at each end and the whole section was lifted out. This is area that T bone and porter house steaks or Rib eye and tender loin roasts come from. Back at camp the sinew would be removed the whole section cut into shorter sections put on stakes leaning over the fire to slow cook. As it cooked the outer portions of done meat were sliced off. The painting Cooking the Hump Ribs shows what was left after the best had been eaten. The ribs served as a means to keep the meat together while transporting and cooking. What do you think or know Mark "Roadkill" Loader - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:52:49 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey - --part1_1a3.db9f4f0.2b328071_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/2002 12:48:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, JOAQUINQS@aol.com writes: > what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? Frank, I shoot a TVM .54 flint Southern Rifle with browned barrel and brass hardware, and also a matching TVM Kentucky pistol. My smoothie is a Centremark Fusil de Grenadier .62 flint, very plain dark stock and natural steel barrel, repro of a military issue weapon complete with tri-edge pig-sticker. I've shot it with buckshot, round ball and buck & ball and it's been a very consistent, reliable weapon. A great kit to build, too! For those who were asking about TVM's, all I can say is BUY ONE! Great workmanship, great people, great shooting guns. When I got my TVM rifle it required a very slight sight adjustment, and a couple of days later, the first time I used it in competition, it led me to 1st of 150+ shooters in a trail walk. Had it for years and it's never let me down...... You asked about rifles and smoothies, but I also shoot a pair of Uberti repros of the Colt Paterson, 1836 (1st model) & 1839 (loading lever) model. Both are .36 cal rifled CAP GUNS. The early model is blued and the 1839 is black. I got into these as my persona evolved into the Southwest in the later part of the Period. Barney - --part1_1a3.db9f4f0.2b328071_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/2002 12:48:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, JOAQUINQS@aol.com writes:


what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use?


Frank, I shoot a TVM .54 flint Southern Rifle with browned barrel and brass hardware, and also a matching TVM Kentucky pistol. My smoothie is a Centremark Fusil de Grenadier .62 flint, very plain dark stock and natural steel barrel, repro of a military issue weapon complete with tri-edge pig-sticker. I've shot it with buckshot, round ball and buck & ball and it's been a very consistent, reliable weapon. A great kit to build, too!

For those who were asking about TVM's, all I can say is BUY ONE!  Great workmanship, great people, great shooting guns. When I got my TVM  rifle it required a very slight sight adjustment, and a couple of days later, the first time I used it in competition, it led me to 1st of 150+ shooters in a trail walk. Had it for years and it's never let me down......

You asked about rifles and smoothies, but I also shoot a pair of Uberti repros of the Colt Paterson, 1836 (1st model) & 1839 (loading lever) model. Both are .36 cal rifled CAP GUNS. The early model is blued and the 1839 is black. I got into these as my persona evolved into the Southwest in the later part of the Period.

Barney - --part1_1a3.db9f4f0.2b328071_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0800 From: Alan Avery Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey "... I would like to ask everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use?..." - Tulle fusil de chasse .62 cal. I have others but I almost never shoot 'em anymore. I plain out just have too much fun shooting my smoothie. Black Knife aka Alan - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:10:40 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey 1. Plain Pennsylvania FLINT (What is persuction???) In Brass of course. Duplicated from an original JP Beck. .50cal. going on 13 years. 2. A .62 smmoth with a chambers english round face. Just love that Mr. chambers! Short Oct to round. FLINt of course. And a .50 cal FLINT pistol. "Smokeless powder is a passing fad..." >From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:14:37 -0500 > > Maybe this topic has already been discussed, but I would like to ask >everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? does anyone out there >use a (dare I say) a percussion rifle. > >I'll start off, for my RMFT persona, I use a lyman great plains rifel in >.54 cal., all the metal furniture has been browned and a hawken sight has >been installed. I also have a 12 ga. double percussion that I use, it is a >great shoooting shotgun, have taken dove and quail with it. My third >weapon is a North Star Trade Gun , a buddy has been letting me try it out >and shoot on a "if you like it buy it basis", the only problem with it is I >am a lefty and the trade gun a right handed. I have been fair shooting it >but would rather have a leftie instead. >OK let the discussion start........ >Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas >Frank Sablan >Midland,Texas > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:09:36 +0000 From: "scott mcmahon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact Beaverboy, Sounds alot like a set of musical spoons but I've never heard of an iron set before... SMc _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:33:41 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Beaverboy.... see my last post... They got ALL sorts of stuff for that..... Regards, Ad - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:55:31 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C2A6AD.E4D1C160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ad, You are going to cost me $$$.... I has GOT to get one of those medium = units... You know what fish DO in water?? D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Knives and Iron Accouterments http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning." - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Addison Miller" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > I went to Google and typed in Distilling... came back with about > 92,500 hits. Checked a few, and MANY of the hits are suppliers of > distilling items... ie... stills, sugar, hops, corn, etc... >=20 > Here is a great page... http://www.encode.com/exec/moone.htm ... lots > of items for sale and even "How-To" books... >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Ad Miller >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C2A6AD.E4D1C160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> I went to Google and typed in Distilling... came back with = about
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> Ad Miller
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> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html> - ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C2A6AD.E4D1C160-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:44:47 -0800 From: "kc16" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Beaverboy, I looked all over for it and can only assume that I either gave it back to the guy at work who loaned it to me, or threw it away as the still that was in it was a small blown glass and beaker type for over $200. I can make one for way cheaper than that. Not out of blown glass, but out of other materials. Sorry, Blood - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > Curtis, > Can you please tell me the name of the catalog where I can purchase > a still for making corn whiskey? I's got to know. > Thanks a ton. > Beaverboy > > > Sorry Glenn, > > > > I personally don't think that the reporter was right. I wholeheartedly > > disagree with his assessment of the law. And his example of it was a > > family who was selling their shine, not just making it. > > > > Hell, you can buy stills in catalogs. Granted they are for only > > distilling about a quart at a time, but they are stills none the less. > > I'd have to see the actual script of the law before I believe some > > reporter who may not have his facts correct. > > > > Curtis Krouse > > "Blood" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glenn Darilek" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:41 AM > > Subject: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits > > > > > >> Before anyone else goes too public, and without starting a discussion > >> about BATF, or state's rights, > >> > >> http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/moonshine020409.html > >> > >> says: > >> > >> "Federal law allows individuals to make beer and wine for their own > >> use without a license, but not distilled spirits." > >> > >> Glenn Darilek > >> "Iron Burner" > >> > >> ---------------------- > >> hist_text list info: > >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >> > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:50:11 -0500 From: manbear Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits I think this site pretty much says it all when it comes to this subject. http://www.happymountain.net/the%20law.html Jim "Manbear" Lockmiller Addison Miller wrote: > I went to Google and typed in Distilling... came back with about > 92,500 hits. Checked a few, and MANY of the hits are suppliers of > distilling items... ie... stills, sugar, hops, corn, etc... > > Here is a great page... http://www.encode.com/exec/moone.htm ... lots > of items for sale and even "How-To" books... > > Regards, > > Ad Miller > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:21:48 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: home made likker This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2A6A9.2F1319E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There have been a ton of opinions bandied about recently regarding = making wine, beer or distilled spirits at home...most of which are = wrong. Before anybody makes the first drop of distilled likker they = should make a quick call to the ATF for a "distilled" version of federal = law on the matter. I think you will find that distilling untaxed = alcohol will land you in more serious trouble than you can imagine. = Distilling spirits is NOT the same as making wine or beer at home, which = is legal in relatively small quantities for personal use. Run the first = drop out of a worm without complying with federal law and you have made = untaxed....illegal.....spirits and have exposed yourself to federal = prosecution with the possible penalty of a heavy fine and/or time in the = pen. Don't take my word for it...call the ATF or click here: = http://www.atf.treas.gov/alcohol/info/faq/genalcohol.htm#g1 If you still feel froggy after reading this sobering little treatise = then jump into the deep end and take your chances. Lanney Ratcliff lanneyratcliff@charter.net ______________________________________________________________ Aux Aliments du Pays - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C2A6A9.2F1319E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There have been a ton of = opinions=20 bandied about recently regarding making wine, beer = or distilled=20 spirits at  home...most of which are wrong.  Before anybody = makes the=20 first drop of distilled likker  they should make a quick call to = the ATF=20 for a "distilled" version of federal law on the matter.  I think = you will=20 find that distilling untaxed alcohol will land you in more serious = trouble than=20 you can imagine.  Distilling spirits is NOT the same as making wine = or beer=20 at home, which is legal in relatively small quantities for personal = use. =20 Run the first drop out of a worm  without complying with federal = law and=20 you have made untaxed....illegal.....spirits and have exposed yourself = to=20 federal prosecution with the possible penalty of a heavy fine and/or = time in the=20 pen.  Don't take my word for it...call the ATF or click here: http= ://www.atf.treas.gov/alcohol/info/faq/genalcohol.htm#g1
If you still feel froggy = after reading=20 this sobering little treatise then jump into the deep end and take your=20 chances.
 
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