From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1136 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, January 22 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1136 In this issue: -       MtMan-List:Lock/Parts -       Re: MtMan-List:Lock/Parts -       Re: MtMan-List:Lock/Parts -       MtMan-List: word definition -       Re: MtMan-List: word definition -       Re: MtMan-List: word definition -       Re: MtMan-List: word definition -       Re: MtMan-List: word definition -       MtMan-List: Beaver Trapping ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:00:39 EST From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List:Lock/Parts Hello the camp I have flint lock trade gun with a lock with W-CHANCE & SON on the rear of the lock I need a replacment or a main spring, frizen and cock does any on know a source Thanks Mark Roadkill Loader - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:11:46 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Lock/Parts - --part1_f9.286ebf73.2b5c4462_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, try DGW.... Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. Magpie - --part1_f9.286ebf73.2b5c4462_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, try DGW....
Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies.

Magpie - --part1_f9.286ebf73.2b5c4462_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:41:00 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List:Lock/Parts mark go and look at your track of the wolf catalog---their locks are pictured full scale---and check out the springs there---will get you close if you are working on a original and need a replacement---or something you can alter to fit or work--- hawk ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:36:24 -0600 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: word definition I came across the word "hoydens" in a book I am reading. The setting was the 1832 rendezvous at Pierre's Hole. From the context "trappers........flirted with enterprising red hoydens". I am surmising that it may mean indian prostitutes. Enneyone know fer sure? Also does anyone have the URL for that on-line 1820's dictionary. I lost it in my last computer crash. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, AR http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ozarksmuzzleloaders/ http://www.geocities.com/rifleman1776/photopageflag.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:14:07 -0800 From: Alan Avery Subject: Re: MtMan-List: word definition "... Also does anyone have the URL for that on-line 1820's dictionary. I lost it in my last computer crash..." Frank, Don'tcha hate it when that happens? There is an 1828 searchable dictionary link at: http://www.christiantech.com/ I don't know if that is the specific dictionary that you were referring to, but it is one that I use. It doesn't show anything for "hoyden" though... Alan aka Black Knife - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:28:44 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: word definition - --part1_170.197875c8.2b5dc40c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank, Nothing in the 1828, but here's the link you requested. Barney Websters 1828 - --part1_170.197875c8.2b5dc40c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank, Nothing in the 1828, but here's the link you requested.  Barney

Websters 1828 - --part1_170.197875c8.2b5dc40c_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:43:07 EST From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: word definition - --part1_7d.33fd9637.2b5dc76b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank, 4 entries found for hoyden. 1. hoy=B7den ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hoidn) n. A high-spirited, boisterous, or saucy girl. adj. High-spirited; boisterous. From earlier hoyden, a rude youth, probably from Dutch heiden, heathen, boor= ,=20 from Middle Dutch. See kaito- in Indo-European Roots.]hoyden=B7ish adj. =20 Source: The American Heritage=AE Dictionary of the English Lang= uage, Fourth=20 Edition Copyright =A9 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. - ------------------ =20 2. hoyden 1. Hoiden \Hoi"den\, n. [OE. hoydon a lout, rustic, OD. heyden a heathen,=20 gypsy, vagabond, D. heiden, fr. OD. heyde heath, D. heide. See Heathen, Heath .] [Written also hoyden.] 1. A rude, clownish youth. [Obs.] --Milton. 2. A rude, bold girl; a romp. --H. Kingsley. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, =A9 1996, 1= 998 MICRA, Inc. =20 3. hoyden \Hoy"den\, n. Same as Hoiden. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, =A9 1996, 1= 998 MICRA, Inc. =20 4. hoyden adj : used of boisterous girls [syn: hoyden(a), hoydenish, tomboyish] n : a=20 girl who behaves in a boyish manner [syn: tomboy, romp] Hope this helps! Jim Hardee, AMM #1676 =20 =20 - --part1_7d.33fd9637.2b5dc76b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank,
4 entries found for ho= yden.
1. hoy=B7den  = ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (hoidn)
n. A high-spirited, boisterous, or saucy girl.
adj. High-spirited; boisterous.
From earlier hoyden, a rude youth, probably from Dutch heiden, hea= then, boor, from Middle Dutch. See kaito- in Indo-European Roots.]hoy= den=B7ish adj.
Source: The American Heritage=AE Dictionary of the English Lang= uage, Fourth Edition
Copyright =A9 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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2. hoyden
1. Hoiden \Hoi"den\, n. [OE. hoydon a lout, rustic, OD. heyden a heathen, gy= psy, vagabond, D. heiden, fr. OD. heyde heath, D. heide. See Heathen, Heath.] [Written also hoyden.] 1. A=20= rude, clownish youth. [Obs.] --Milton.
2. A rude, bold girl; a romp. --H. Kingsley.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, =A9 1996, 1= 998 MICRA, Inc.

3. hoyden
\Hoy"den\, n. Same as Hoiden.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, =A9 1996, 1= 998 MICRA, Inc.

4. hoyden
adj : used of boisterous girls [syn: hoyden(a), hoydenish, tomboyish] n : a girl who behaves=20= in a boyish manner [syn: tomboy, romp]

Hope this helps!

Jim Hardee, AMM #1676

- --part1_7d.33fd9637.2b5dc76b_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:02:23 EST From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: word definition - --part1_7f.3158bd8a.2b5dd9ff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank I found Hoiden in the NoahWebster 1828 Dictionary Hoiden n. (W.hoeden, a flirt, awanton, a coquet) A rude, bold girl; aromp a. Rude; bold; inelegant; rustic v. i. To romp rudely or indecently Websters 1983 edition hoyden a bold and boisterous girl, a tomboy, also spelled hoiden hope this helps but don't keep the book and page number a secret Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_7f.3158bd8a.2b5dd9ff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank
I found Hoiden in the NoahWebster 1828 Dictionary
Hoiden n. (W.hoeden, a flirt, awanton, a coquet) A rude, bold girl; aromp

       a.  Rude; bold; inelegant; rustic

       v. i.  To romp rudely or indecently

Websters 1983 edition hoyden
       a bold and boisterous girl, a tomboy, also spelled hoiden

hope this helps but don't keep the book and page number a secret
Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_7f.3158bd8a.2b5dd9ff_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:37:50 EST From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Beaver Trapping Hello the Camp I am going beaver trapping next month and would like to hear from those that have done it winter mountain man style. What clothing they wear to wade in the cold water and any advice they have. Also how do you think the float stick was used. Do you suppose it was used in conjunction with a weighted drag on the chain and a long line attached to the drag and to the float stick. this would allow the trapper to find the drag and retrieve it from deep water with beaver and trap in tow without getting so wet. your thoughts Mark Roadkill Loader - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1136 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.