From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1163 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, March 11 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1163 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: tularemia -       MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks -       Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon -       Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks -       Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks -       Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks -       MtMan-List: Old Bowie Knife ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:02:09 -0600 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: tularemia HEY! BB. I did say I "guessed" the meaning of their theory, didn't say I believed it. Personally, I have never seen a bad liver or heard of someone actually getting the big T. But, still, caution is advised. Yep, the old timers 'sayings' are interesting. But factual? I often have doubts. On the other hand, I was also taught that shooting a sitting rabbit or duck is unsportsmanlike. But that's another debate...... Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, AR http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ozarksmuzzleloaders/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:53:35 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks > On the other hand, I was also taught that shooting a sitting rabbit > or > duck is unsportsmanlike. But that's another debate...... > Frank G. Fusco Frank I know what you mean, this is what old timers have taught us. It's unsportsmanlike to shoot a sitting duck, yet most all of us wait for the turkey to stop and stick his head up for a clean head shot. I personally never shoot at a running deer as there is too great a chance of wounding it or at the least wrecking meat. I take only shots when the deer is stopped and broadside of me. Is this unsportsmanlike? No, a clean shot at a still animal is sportsmanlike. Most my deer never know what hit them. We owe quick humane deaths to the animals we hunt for food. Running shots are almost never sportsmanlike in my opinion. Some argue that it is sporting as the animal has a chance to escape however as I stated, there is too big a chance for a wounding shot. I only disagreed with the notion that sitting rabbits may be ill as I have seen cottontails here sit for very long periods. They tolerate us here more and we can get quite close to them before they bolt for cover. Not much hunting pressure on them I suppose. Some states don't allow hunting of rabbits with .22's or rifles. I used to fringe shoot sitting game with my shotgun when I was young to avoid blasting them full of shot. When I was a lad I took a running shot or two as we all have. It is a sick feeling wondering if you hit your game or not. Or worse yet to find drops of blood but no deer. I now have the patience to sit or slow walk/hunt and take my perfect shots at standing or sitting game. I usually don't have to fire my weapon more than once for my deer. This is sportsmanlike and something we all need to thrive for. I'm sure that you and most on the list are like me in that the shot is the smallest part of the hunting experience anyway. Sincerely, bb - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:38:25 EST From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hunters moon - --part1_1dd.4c0c6d5.2b9d0e51_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/7/2003 6:28:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, jhunt1@one.net writes: > I can remember my grandfather and dad teaching me to hunt, shoot, and about > the outdoors that you NEVER-NEVER hunted till after the hunters moon. > > Today squirrel season starts in sept and it is still way too warm to carry > game after harvest safely. By the time I started to learn hunting from my Granddad -- about 45 years ago, Missouri already had seasons for everything that walked, flew, or swam, so much of the old sayings were moot point. The only one Granddad passed on was "Only hunt rabbit during months that have a letter "R" in 'em." At that time, Missouri's rabbit season was SeptembeR through ApRil which followed Granddad's saying. Have many fond memories of hunting cotton tails with him on frosty mornings with a fresh dusting of snow when the crack of those little .22's seemed to literally split the air. NM - --part1_1dd.4c0c6d5.2b9d0e51_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/7/2003 6:28:34 AM Pacific Standar= d Time, jhunt1@one.net writes:


I can remember my grandfather a= nd dad teaching me to hunt, shoot, and about
the outdoors that you NEVER-NEVER hunted till after the hunters moon.

Today squirrel season starts in sept and it is still way too warm to carry game after harvest safely.


By the time I started to learn hunting from my Granddad -- about 45 years ag= o, Missouri already had seasons for everything that walked, flew, or swam, s= o much of the old sayings were moot point.  The only one Granddad passe= d on was "Only hunt rabbit during months that have a letter "R" in 'em."&nbs= p; At that time, Missouri's rabbit season was SeptembeR through ApRil which=20= followed Granddad's saying.  Have many fond memories of hunting cotton=20= tails with him on frosty mornings with a fresh dusting of snow when the crac= k of those little .22's seemed to literally split the air.

NM - --part1_1dd.4c0c6d5.2b9d0e51_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 09 Mar 2003 13:44:18 -0800 From: "Curtis Krouse" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks BB, The only time I would disagree with this theory is when the "Sportsmen" sit on the side of a canyon with their 800x scope and shoot their elk from 1000 yards or thereabouts. In that scenario, the shot IS the hunt. I personally don't see the thrill in that type of hunting, but to those that do I've heard that the largest part of the hunt is packing the animal out. When someone takes such a long shot, I believe that the method that you use to shoot and try to minimize to one shot is abandoned. Their method is that any hit on the animal is good. Unfortunately, the people who do such reaching out and touching rarely look for their animal unless they see it fall. If the animal bolts and reaches brush and they don't see it go down, they assume that they missed. I consider this a very bad hunting practice. As the animals are rarely spooked to running unless they are actually hit. They can't hear the report, and the sound of a nearby slug hitting the rocks doesn't seem to spook them. I know this because is have heard them tell of their story....how they had to take three or four shots to get the ranging correct to hit the animal...and the animals don't run with the nearby hits. So, having to assume that the animal was or was not hit is a bad practice, in my opinion. I suppose that a trip down to the bottom of a canyon to track a suspected hit animal is too much of an effort for them to bother unless they know that the animal went down. Just another hunting viewpoint on another form of hunting. Blood On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 11:53, beaverboy@sofast.net wrote: > I'm sure that you and most on the list are like me in that the shot is > the smallest part of the hunting experience anyway. > Sincerely, > bb > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:03:08 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:53:35 -0700 (MST) writes: > I'm sure that you and most on the list are like me in that the > shot is the smallest part of the hunting experience anyway. > Sincerely, > bb i like just to watch them and they dont know i'm there i had deer within 10 ft of me last year and couldnt put horns on a one of them---last year during rifle season we couldnt shoot does and all bucks had to have 3 points on a side to be legal--i like the 3 point rule as it makes the hunter relly look the deer over and make sure it is legal in the future if you kill a button buck it goes against your buck tags which i thank is good lets those little buck grow up --- hawk--- ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:52:26 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sitting Ducks > > I'm sure that you and most on the list are like me in that the shot is > > the smallest part of the hunting experience anyway. > > Sincerely, > > bb Actualy, to me, the HUNT is more important than the shot. But I admit to being one of the ones that ises a .270 suppository rifle with a Bushnell 4x to 16x BDC scope. It is set for 250 yards though... not 1000 :) However, I can dial it up to that distance if necessary. Although that is not really hunting at that distance... I have never been lucky ehough to go BP Elk hunting. Every time I went BP Deer hunting here in WV, the darned things were always across a draw or something, and it would have been a real BEAR of a climb to get them. Heh... I let them live another year :) Regards, Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:05:58 -0500 (EST) From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) Subject: MtMan-List: Old Bowie Knife Greeting to All (especially Mr. Miles), I just recently bought and old hand made Bowie knife, very primitive looking no guard and wooden slab handles pinned on with what looks like square head nails. Whats interesting about it is that it has a rectangular hole with rounded edges in the center of the blade about an inch long and half inch wide. I'm wounder'n if anybody has any idea why? Was it made from some old car part or even an old wagon part or perhaps an old tool? Don't worry if you think its made from a 63 Chevy spring or some such thing give it to me straight I only paid 15 bucks for 'er! Its kind of an odd knife and would interested in any opinions about it! Your Humble Servant, Michael A. Smith Esq. http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1163 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.