From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1229 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, August 27 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1229 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu -       MtMan-List: Mailing list problems -       Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu -       MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican -       Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican -       Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican -       Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican -       Re: MtMan-List: Fort Bridger -       Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu -       Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu -       Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:13:43 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu - --part1_129.306c662f.2c7e1697_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wynn Hidatsa, Mandan, and Aricara tribes all grew squash, they were even grown at Fort Union. Right now is when the summer squash was ready to be harvested and dried. We will have some at Fort Bridger, Jill and the Women of the Fur Trade will be showing how they dried it. These squash ya save the seeds so ya can plant them again next year. We will also have one or two winter Squash for display but they are not quit ripe yet they need a frost or at least some cooler tempters to set the sugars in them and give them there best flavor, same with the pumpkins Anyone interested in what these Squash look like, have a look at our Web site and Upper MISSOURI RIVER GARDENING. The Large squash are the winter squash and the smaller ones are the summer squash. http://members.tripod.com/gazingcyot/index.htm At your service Crazy Cyot - --part1_129.306c662f.2c7e1697_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wynn
Hidatsa, Mandan, and Aricara tribes all grew squash, they were even grow= n at Fort Union. Right now is when the summer squash was ready to be harvest= ed and dried. We will have some at Fort Bridger, Jill and the Women of the F= ur Trade will be showing how they dried it. These squash ya save the seeds s= o ya can plant them again next year. We will also have one or two winter Squ= ash for display but they are not quit ripe yet they need a frost or at least= some cooler tempters to set the sugars in them and give them there best fla= vor, same with the pumpkins
Anyone interested in what these Squash look like, have a look at our Web= site and Upper MISSOURI RIVER GARDENING. The Large squash are the winter sq= uash and the smaller ones are the summer squash.
http://members.tripod.com/gazingcyot/index.htm
At your service
Crazy Cyot - --part1_129.306c662f.2c7e1697_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:40:54 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Mailing list problems - --part1_d0.3e06b6c6.2c7e1cf6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for all the same posts to the list but for some reason it was not showing up on my list. I even unsubscribed and resubscribed to the list to see if that would fix it. I thought for some reason I was not able to post to the list. I didn't think they were getting through. Once again sorry for all the same the posts. Crazy Cyot - --part1_d0.3e06b6c6.2c7e1cf6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for all the same po= sts to the list but for some reason it was not showing up on my list.
I even unsubscribed and resubscribed to the list to see if that would fi= x it.=20
I thought for some reason I was not able to post to the list.
I didn't think they were getting through.
Once again sorry for all the same the posts.
Crazy Cyot - --part1_d0.3e06b6c6.2c7e1cf6_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:33:08 -0700 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C36C75.D7C60C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crazy, Read your site article on agriculture and enjoyed it. Read Buffalo Bird = Woman's story several years ago and have enjoyed trying some of her = gardening techniques too.=20 This is just to ask you if you are aware of "Native Seed Search"? An = outfit out of the South West that is non-profit and has a great = selection of seeds and products such as blue corn flour, Pinole, etc. = Even native tobacco seed. Grew some of that native tobacco a few years = ago and beside the tobacco found that the stalks are sticky and trap = aphids! What fun. YF&B Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C36C75.D7C60C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Crazy,
 
Read your site article on agriculture = and enjoyed=20 it. Read Buffalo Bird Woman's story several years ago and have enjoyed = trying=20 some of her gardening techniques too.
 
This is just to ask you if you are = aware of "Native=20 Seed Search"? An outfit out of the South West that is non-profit and has = a great=20 selection of seeds and products such as blue corn flour, Pinole, etc. = Even=20 native tobacco seed. Grew some of that native tobacco a few years ago = and beside=20 the tobacco found that the stalks are sticky and trap aphids! What=20 fun.
 
YF&B
Capt. Lahti'
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C36C75.D7C60C40-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 10:41:10 -0500 From: "Monte Holder" Subject: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C36C87.BAB00B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I grew some burley tobacco one year and it trapped tomato hornworms, I = think they are really tobacco hornworms that eat tomatos but the tobacco = was pretty interesting stuff to grow. I don't think I harvested it = quite right, it was a pretty rough smoke. I would like to check into = some of the native tobacco though, and there was a thread about the bear = berry stuff in kinikink(sp?) some time ago, but I never could find a = source for it around here in central missouri. I don't know of anybody = in Saline CO that grows tobacco, but just over the river around Glasgow = they grow some. It appears some of the stuff they grew for rope (hemp) = still grows in the road ditches, though. Monte Holder Saline Co MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: roger lahti=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu . Even native tobacco seed. Grew some of that native tobacco a few = years ago and beside the tobacco found that the stalks are sticky and = trap aphids! What fun. YF&B Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C36C87.BAB00B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I grew some burley tobacco one year and it trapped tomato = hornworms, I=20 think they are really tobacco hornworms that eat tomatos but the tobacco = was=20 pretty interesting stuff to grow.  I don't think I harvested it = quite=20 right, it was a pretty rough smoke.  I would like to check into = some of the=20 native tobacco though, and there was a thread about the bear berry stuff = in=20 kinikink(sp?) some time ago, but I never could find a source for it = around here=20 in central missouri.  I don't know of anybody in Saline CO that = grows=20 tobacco, but just over the river around Glasgow they grow some.  It = appears=20 some of the stuff they grew for rope (hemp) still grows in the road = ditches,=20 though.
 
Monte Holder
Saline Co MO
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 roger lahti=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, = 2003 10:33=20 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Pemmican was=20 cold camp menu
. Even native tobacco seed. Grew some = of that=20 native tobacco a few years ago and beside the tobacco found that the = stalks=20 are sticky and trap aphids! What fun.
 
YF&B
Capt. Lahti'
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C36C87.BAB00B30-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:48:45 -0700 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C36C80.67DA9DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Native Seed Search has tobacco seed that is specific for various = locals/altitudes and I'll bet the Indians of CO. grew the stuff next to = their pueblos. Capt. L - ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C36C80.67DA9DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Native Seed Search has tobacco seed = that is=20 specific for various locals/altitudes and I'll bet the Indians of CO. = grew the=20 stuff next to their pueblos.
 
Capt. L
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C36C80.67DA9DA0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:54:24 -0500 From: "Monte Holder" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C36C91.F5F41E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Capt.L, but I wrote (Or meant to write ) Saline Co MO. Monte Holder PS anybody know where I can get some of those bear berry seeds or if = they'd grow in Missouri? The guy I asked at the Conservation dept, = didn't sound too excited about me growing "exotics" - ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C36C91.F5F41E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry Capt.L, but I wrote (Or meant to write ) Saline Co MO.
 
Monte Holder
 
PS anybody know where I can get some of those bear berry seeds or = if they'd=20 grow in Missouri?  The guy I asked at the Conservation dept, didn't = sound=20 too excited about me growing "exotics"
- ------=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C36C91.F5F41E20-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:06:09 -0700 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C36C8B.381E7540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll bet you wouldn't have any problem growing Tobacco there either! Capt. L ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Monte Holder=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tobacco: was Pemmican Sorry Capt.L, but I wrote (Or meant to write ) Saline Co MO. Monte Holder PS anybody know where I can get some of those bear berry seeds or if = they'd grow in Missouri? The guy I asked at the Conservation dept, = didn't sound too excited about me growing "exotics" - ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C36C8B.381E7540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll bet you wouldn't have any problem = growing=20 Tobacco there either!
 
Capt. L
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Monte Holder
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, = 2003 9:54=20 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Tobacco: was=20 Pemmican

Sorry Capt.L, but I wrote (Or meant to write ) Saline Co = MO.
 
Monte Holder
 
PS anybody know where I can get some of those bear berry seeds or = if=20 they'd grow in Missouri?  The guy I asked at the Conservation = dept,=20 didn't sound too excited about me growing=20 "exotics"
- ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C36C8B.381E7540-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:12:46 -0600 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Bridger - --------------090509090303040603000305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check this site: http://www.fortbridgerrendezvous.net/ sparks Wynn Ormond wrote: > Can anyone let me know what the fire restrictions at Fort Bridger are > going to be? > > Wynn Ormond - --------------090509090303040603000305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check this site:
http://www.fortbridgerrendezvous.net/
sparks

Wynn Ormond wrote:
Can anyone let me know what the fire restrictions at Fort Bridger are going to be?
 
Wynn Ormond

- --------------090509090303040603000305-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:25:58 -0600 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu - --------------020503020003040300040808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wynn, I've never dried winter squash. I have dried yellow crookneck and zuccini with much success. Seeds? I would submit that if you have to take the seeds out when you eat it fresh, take them out when you dry them! I have never removed seeds from squash (peaches and plums are a different matter [;-)). Slice them about a quarter inch thick before drying them or they will not only look like onion skin paper when you remove them from your racks, they will also fall apart while you are taking them off. I turn mine ever so often during the process. If you make it to Ft. Bridger this weekend, I expect to be spending Saturday afternoon and evening with the American Long Rifle Assn. members near the guardhouse. sparks Wynn Ormond wrote: >Sorry about that other post, mouse problems. > >Anyway I noticed several people have mentioned dried sqash. Which varieties >are most period or work best? And do you skin and remove seeds etc? >Wynn Ormond > >PS This is the best time to gather corn for parching. The gardeners are a >little tired of eating corn on the cob and the kernals are getting kind big >and tough now anyway. Perfect for parching and can be had cheap if not >free. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sue Gilbert >To: >Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:22 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu > > > > >>My family receipt for pemmican comes from my Cherokee Great,Great >>Grandma and it does not have any extra animal fat, so it's not so much a >>heart danger. Everyone seems to like it and it's easy to make. >>I make my own jerk and dried fruit/veggies so I mix up batches for >>events as needed. >> >>Pound together 1/2 pound each of the following: >> >>jerk meat (venison or buffalo) >>parched corn >>dried cranberries >>dried apples >>dried squash >>sunflower seeds >> >>the oil in the sunflower seeds acts like suet and binds the mixture >>together slightly. It's great as is by the handful, washed down with >>water, but it makes a good stew base with tomatoes, onions and beans >>when you have a chance to cook. >>enjoy! >>Sue >> >> >> >> >>Bruce Nail wrote: >> My partners >> >> >>>have been forced to eat many meals "Sans feu". some of the fare >>> >>> >consists of > > >>>the following: >>> Pemmican (watch the cholesterol!) >>> >>> >> >> >> >>---------------------- >>hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> >> > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > - --------------020503020003040300040808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wynn,
I've never dried winter squash.  I have dried yellow crookneck and zuccini with much success.  Seeds? I would submit that if you have to take the seeds out when you eat it fresh, take them out when you dry them!  I have never removed seeds from squash (peaches and plums are a different matter [;-)).  Slice them about a quarter inch thick before drying them or they will not only look like onion skin paper when you remove them from your racks, they will also fall apart while you are taking them off.
I turn mine ever so often during the process.

If you make it to Ft. Bridger this weekend, I expect to be spending Saturday afternoon and evening with the American Long Rifle Assn. members near the guardhouse.
sparks

Wynn Ormond wrote:
Sorry about that other post, mouse problems.

Anyway I noticed several people have mentioned dried sqash.  Which varieties
are most period or work best?  And do you skin and remove seeds etc?
Wynn Ormond

PS This is the best time to gather corn for parching.  The gardeners are a
little tired of eating corn on the cob and the kernals are getting kind big
and tough now anyway.  Perfect for parching and can be had cheap if not
free.

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From: Sue Gilbert <sgilbert@avalon.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu


  
My family receipt for pemmican comes from my Cherokee Great,Great
Grandma and it does not have any extra animal fat, so it's not so much a
heart danger.  Everyone seems to like it and it's easy to make.
I make my own jerk and dried fruit/veggies so I mix up batches for
events as needed.

Pound together 1/2 pound each of the following:

jerk meat (venison or buffalo)
parched corn
dried cranberries
dried apples
dried squash
sunflower seeds

the oil in the sunflower seeds acts like suet and binds the mixture
together slightly.  It's great as is by the handful, washed down with
water, but it makes a good stew base with tomatoes, onions and beans
when you have a chance to cook.
enjoy!
Sue




Bruce Nail wrote:
  My partners
    
have been forced to eat many meals "Sans feu".  some of the fare
      
consists of
  
the following:
     Pemmican (watch the cholesterol!)
      



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- --------------020503020003040300040808-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:44:31 -0700 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C36CA9.B9899420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wynn, In Buffalo Bird Woman's gardening book she talked of drying squash much = as Crazy and Jill talk about it on their site. As I recall this is how BBW described it in her book and how I did it. = She either cut the squash in to "rings" or a spiral across the squash, = removed the seeds for roasting (excellent!) and strung the squash rings = on a pole to be suspended off the ground on a rack. A tall tri-pod set = up at both ends seems likely for a single pole. As Crazy described it, the dried squash ring was boiled up until the = meat could be separated from the skin and then added to the pot, etc. I = think I trimmed mine off before drying and used a drier for lack of a = pole, etc. Worked out the same. It can be eaten dried or cooked up. = Pumpkin works good too and I think I even cooked up some pumpkin a while = and dried the semi cooked chunks. Might even have cooked it up with some = brown sugar. Speaking of which, I need to get some pecans or walnuts and some maple = syrup. I'll cover the bottom of a pan with the nuts and pour in a goodly = dose of maple syrup and cook it all down till the syrup turns to plain = sugar (it will get sticky and adhere to the nuts at that point) being = careful not to burn it. Makes a great trail food and snack in camp and = could be mixed with the dried fruits and other nuts we've been talking = about. The same can be done with parched Indian corn ( the full hard kernels = rather than the wrinkled up sweet corn) after parching it. Makes it a = bit more palatable.=20 I still have some pemmican I made last summer, didn't use it all = hunting. It's made the normal way with whatever dried fruits, nuts and = jerky I had laying around. Used pork lard instead of beef tallow but it = works. Wrapped it in parchment paper rolls. Being a sweetie I laced it = with raw sugar granules.=20 And I need to make up some of Hardtack's hardtack recipe with my = addition of some raw sugar pressed into the top before baking. Crawdad = loves the stuff and if it keeps him paddling I'll feed him the whole = sack. Kinda like training a puppy to dog paddle for a biscuit. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C36CA9.B9899420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wynn,
 
In Buffalo Bird Woman's gardening book = she talked=20 of drying squash much as Crazy and Jill talk about it on their=20 site.
 
As I recall this is how BBW described = it in her=20 book and how I did it. She either cut the squash in to "rings" or a = spiral=20 across the squash, removed the seeds for roasting (excellent!) and = strung the=20 squash rings on a pole to be suspended off the ground on a rack. A tall = tri-pod=20 set up at both ends seems likely for  a single pole.
 
As Crazy described it, the dried squash = ring was=20 boiled up until the meat could be separated from the skin and then added = to the=20 pot, etc. I think I trimmed mine off before drying and used a drier for = lack of=20 a pole, etc. Worked out the same. It can be eaten dried or cooked up. = Pumpkin=20 works good too and I think I even cooked up some pumpkin a while and = dried the=20 semi cooked chunks. Might even have cooked it up with some brown=20 sugar.
 
Speaking of which, I need to get some = pecans or=20 walnuts and some maple syrup. I'll cover the bottom of a pan with the = nuts and=20 pour in a goodly dose of maple syrup and cook it all down till the syrup = turns=20 to plain sugar (it will get sticky and adhere to the nuts at that point) = being=20 careful not to burn it. Makes a great trail food and snack in camp and = could be=20 mixed with the dried fruits and other nuts we've been talking=20 about.
 
The same can be done with parched = Indian corn ( the=20 full hard kernels rather than the wrinkled up sweet corn) after parching = it.=20 Makes it a bit more palatable.
 
I still have some pemmican I made last = summer,=20 didn't use it all hunting. It's made the normal way with whatever dried = fruits,=20 nuts and jerky I had laying around. Used pork lard instead of beef = tallow but it=20 works. Wrapped it in parchment paper rolls. Being a sweetie I laced it = with raw=20 sugar granules.
 
And I need to make up some of = Hardtack's hardtack=20 recipe with my addition of some raw sugar pressed into the top before = baking.=20 Crawdad loves the stuff and if it keeps him paddling I'll feed him the = whole=20 sack. Kinda like training a puppy to dog paddle for a = biscuit.
 
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C36CA9.B9899420-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:33:28 -0600 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Pemmican was cold camp menu - --------------060903060601090806010608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, Thanks for the details. When I was referring to leaving the seeds in the slices, it was because the sqash and the seeds were tender enough to eat. When they are still in the relatively-early development stage, I don't know if they be good for roasting, but that's my guess. If you've tried that you know more than I do. WATCH IT! when buying pumpkins, they are NOT all the same. Some (most in the stores) are grown for carving before discarding on November 5. EATING PUMPKINS ARE DIFFERENT! I never would have known except for the local fruit/vegetable stand vendors. Both, of course, are edible. But the one's grown for eating are probably closest to what the native Americans had . Sparks roger lahti wrote: > Wynn, > > In Buffalo Bird Woman's gardening book she talked of drying squash > much as Crazy and Jill talk about it on their site. > > As I recall this is how BBW described it in her book and how I did it. > She either cut the squash in to "rings" or a spiral across the squash, > removed the seeds for roasting (excellent!) and strung the squash > rings on a pole to be suspended off the ground on a rack. A tall > tri-pod set up at both ends seems likely for a single pole. > > As Crazy described it, the dried squash ring was boiled up until the > meat could be separated from the skin and then added to the pot, etc. > I think I trimmed mine off before drying and used a drier for lack of > a pole, etc. Worked out the same. It can be eaten dried or cooked up. > Pumpkin works good too and I think I even cooked up some pumpkin a > while and dried the semi cooked chunks. Might even have cooked it up > with some brown sugar. > > Speaking of which, I need to get some pecans or walnuts and some maple > syrup. I'll cover the bottom of a pan with the nuts and pour in a > goodly dose of maple syrup and cook it all down till the syrup turns > to plain sugar (it will get sticky and adhere to the nuts at that > point) being careful not to burn it. Makes a great trail food and > snack in camp and could be mixed with the dried fruits and other nuts > we've been talking about. > > The same can be done with parched Indian corn ( the full hard kernels > rather than the wrinkled up sweet corn) after parching it. Makes it a > bit more palatable. > > I still have some pemmican I made last summer, didn't use it all > hunting. It's made the normal way with whatever dried fruits, nuts and > jerky I had laying around. Used pork lard instead of beef tallow but > it works. Wrapped it in parchment paper rolls. Being a sweetie I laced > it with raw sugar granules. > > And I need to make up some of Hardtack's hardtack recipe with my > addition of some raw sugar pressed into the top before baking. Crawdad > loves the stuff and if it keeps him paddling I'll feed him the whole > sack. Kinda like training a puppy to dog paddle for a biscuit. > > YMOS > Capt. Lahti' > > - --------------060903060601090806010608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger,
Thanks for the details.  When I was referring to leaving the seeds in the slices, it was because the sqash and the seeds were tender enough to eat.  When they are still in the relatively-early development stage, I don't know if they be good for roasting, but that's my guess.  If you've tried that you know more than I do.  

WATCH IT!  when buying pumpkins, they are NOT all the same.  Some (most in the stores) are grown for carving before discarding on November 5.  EATING PUMPKINS ARE DIFFERENT!  I never would have known except for the local fruit/vegetable stand vendors.  Both, of course, are edible.  But the one's grown for eating are probably closest to what the native Americans had .
Sparks

roger lahti wrote:
Wynn,
 
In Buffalo Bird Woman's gardening book she talked of drying squash much as Crazy and Jill talk about it on their site.
 
As I recall this is how BBW described it in her book and how I did it. She either cut the squash in to "rings" or a spiral across the squash, removed the seeds for roasting (excellent!) and strung the squash rings on a pole to be suspended off the ground on a rack. A tall tri-pod set up at both ends seems likely for  a single pole.
 
As Crazy described it, the dried squash ring was boiled up until the meat could be separated from the skin and then added to the pot, etc. I think I trimmed mine off before drying and used a drier for lack of a pole, etc. Worked out the same. It can be eaten dried or cooked up. Pumpkin works good too and I think I even cooked up some pumpkin a while and dried the semi cooked chunks. Might even have cooked it up with some brown sugar.
 
Speaking of which, I need to get some pecans or walnuts and some maple syrup. I'll cover the bottom of a pan with the nuts and pour in a goodly dose of maple syrup and cook it all down till the syrup turns to plain sugar (it will get sticky and adhere to the nuts at that point) being careful not to burn it. Makes a great trail food and snack in camp and could be mixed with the dried fruits and other nuts we've been talking about.
 
The same can be done with parched Indian corn ( the full hard kernels rather than the wrinkled up sweet corn) after parching it. Makes it a bit more palatable.
 
I still have some pemmican I made last summer, didn't use it all hunting. It's made the normal way with whatever dried fruits, nuts and jerky I had laying around. Used pork lard instead of beef tallow but it works. Wrapped it in parchment paper rolls. Being a sweetie I laced it with raw sugar granules.
 
And I need to make up some of Hardtack's hardtack recipe with my addition of some raw sugar pressed into the top before baking. Crawdad loves the stuff and if it keeps him paddling I'll feed him the whole sack. Kinda like training a puppy to dog paddle for a biscuit.
 
YMOS
Capt. Lahti'
 
 

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