From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1266 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, November 13 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1266 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head -       Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head -       MtMan-List: EARLY RUSTIC ARMS -       Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head -       Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head -       Re: MtMan-List: bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: bedding -       MtMan-List: Deer season -       Re: MtMan-List: bedding -       MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning -       Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning -       Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:35:38 -0600 From: "Paul Jones" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C3A900.551D8D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Barney, I will give them a call. Walked down to visit with my doctor friend this morning and he pointed = out that it is a full shoulder mount. Saw one that is about 20" shy in = terms of spread on E-bay that is at about $1,800 as of now, and it is a = poor specimen compared to my friends. So, it obliviously has some value = to someone who is interested (and has a wall of sufficient height to do = the mount justice) in having such a prize. Regards, Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LivingInThePast@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Moose Head In a message dated 11/12/2003 3:42:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, = pwjones@myexcel.com writes: Can anyone suggest a site, company, or individual who might be able = to give advice on this subject. Pablo, Try Lietzau Taxidermy in Cosmos, Minnesota. Phone is = 320-877-7297. Hope this is of some help. Barney - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C3A900.551D8D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Barney, I will give = them a=20 call.
 
Walked down to visit with my = doctor=20 friend this morning and he pointed out that it is a full shoulder = mount. =20 Saw one that is about 20" shy in terms of spread on E-bay that is at = about=20 $1,800 as of now, and it is a poor specimen compared to my = friends.  So, it=20 obliviously has some value to someone who is interested (and has a wall = of=20 sufficient height to do the mount justice) in having such a=20 prize.
 
Regards,
 
Paul
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, = 2003 9:02=20 AM
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In a message dated 11/12/2003 3:42:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, = pwjones@myexcel.com = writes:
Can anyone suggest a site, company, or = individual who=20 might be able to give advice on this=20 subject.
Pablo, Try = Lietzau=20 Taxidermy in Cosmos, Minnesota. Phone is=20 320-877-7297.
 
Hope this is = of some=20 help.    = Barney
- ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C3A900.551D8D00-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:48:55 -0600 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head Paul, I think I would first call Cabela's and Bass Pro and see what they'd offer. They are both opening stores hand over fist and have lots of dead animals on the walls. John... At 09:35 AM 11/12/03, you wrote: >Thanks, Barney, I will give them a call. > >Walked down to visit with my doctor friend this morning and he pointed out >that it is a full shoulder mount. Saw one that is about 20" shy in terms >of spread on E-bay that is at about $1,800 as of now, and it is a poor >specimen compared to my friends. So, it obliviously has some value to >someone who is interested (and has a wall of sufficient height to do the >mount justice) in having such a prize. > >Regards, > >Paul If it ain't exactly right, it's wrong. john Take a look at all the prime plunder being auctioned for the benefit of the American Mountain Men http://amm-auction.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:32:05 -0600 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: MtMan-List: EARLY RUSTIC ARMS Has anyone heard anything good or bad about this outfit in Kentucky ? Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:13:12 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head While attending the rendezvous at Chadron Nebraska a few years ago during Chadron Days, I was lucky enough to meet some of the Pine Ridge Boys and they did not speak too highly of Cabela's. It seems Cabela is buying up all the land down there and closing it to hunting except by pay only, big pay. They spoke of Cabela's like some Montanan's speak of Ted Turner up here. So before you give your hard earned money to the "worlds biggest outfitter" keep in mind that your helping to shut down hunting for the regular guy. beaverboy > Paul, > > I think I would first call Cabela's and Bass Pro and see what they'd > offer. They are both opening stores hand over fist and have lots of dead > animals on the walls. > > John... > > At 09:35 AM 11/12/03, you wrote: >>Thanks, Barney, I will give them a call. >> >>Walked down to visit with my doctor friend this morning and he pointed >> out >>that it is a full shoulder mount. Saw one that is about 20" shy in terms >>of spread on E-bay that is at about $1,800 as of now, and it is a poor >>specimen compared to my friends. So, it obliviously has some value to >>someone who is interested (and has a wall of sufficient height to do the >>mount justice) in having such a prize. >> >>Regards, >> >>Paul > > If it ain't exactly right, it's wrong. > john > > Take a look at all the prime plunder being auctioned for the benefit of > the > American Mountain Men > http://amm-auction.com/ > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:20:02 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Moose Head I skinned for a taxidermist for three winters and I know racks and mounts can be worth quite a bit depending of the score of the mount, the rarity, and of course the quality. One thing you must definitely do is get several opinions or offers. Believe me, there are some real crooks in that business!!! The man I worked for was fair and honest and is still in the business. I met a lot of the people he had to deal with and some of them I wouldn't trust for nothing! Get a second or third bid and make sure they don't know each other. bb > While attending the rendezvous at Chadron Nebraska a few years ago during > Chadron Days, I was lucky enough to meet some of the Pine Ridge Boys and > they did not speak too highly of Cabela's. It seems Cabela is buying up > all the land down there and closing it to hunting except by pay only, big > pay. They spoke of Cabela's like some Montanan's speak of Ted Turner up > here. > So before you give your hard earned money to the "worlds biggest > outfitter" keep in mind that your helping to shut down hunting for the > regular guy. > beaverboy > > > > > >> Paul, >> >> I think I would first call Cabela's and Bass Pro and see what they'd >> offer. They are both opening stores hand over fist and have lots of >> dead >> animals on the walls. >> >> John... >> >> At 09:35 AM 11/12/03, you wrote: >>>Thanks, Barney, I will give them a call. >>> >>>Walked down to visit with my doctor friend this morning and he pointed >>> out >>>that it is a full shoulder mount. Saw one that is about 20" shy in >>> terms >>>of spread on E-bay that is at about $1,800 as of now, and it is a poor >>>specimen compared to my friends. So, it obliviously has some value to >>>someone who is interested (and has a wall of sufficient height to do the >>>mount justice) in having such a prize. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Paul >> >> If it ain't exactly right, it's wrong. >> john >> >> Take a look at all the prime plunder being auctioned for the benefit of >> the >> American Mountain Men >> http://amm-auction.com/ >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:23:03 +0000 From: "don secondine" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding No problem if you have three mules. Don >From: "Paul Jones" >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:31:27 -0600 > >Ole, > >What do you estimate the total weight to be of 1 Hudson bay, 1 Whitney, 2 >Barron 5 point blankets wrapped with canvas, together with the addition of >3 >Hudson bay's and 1 Whitney as a ground pad wrapped with Russian sheeting? >Can you carry this or does it require some other means of transportation? >It will surely keep you warm and dry, but the bulk and weight seem somewhat >intimidating in my view, and I would assume that this set-up is not for a >walk-in situation, or am I mistaken? > >Regards, > >Paul > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ole Jensen" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:55 AM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding > > > > Don, > > For years I have used 1 hudson bay, 1 whitney, and 2 Barron 5 point > > blankets wraped with canvas. > > In the future I will use the same with the addition of 3 hudson bay's > > and 1 whitney as a ground pad wraped with russian sheating. > > Ole > > On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 07:00 PM, Phyllis and Don Keas wrote: > > > > > Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have slept > > > is 12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and > > > plan on carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don > > > > > > On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti > > > wrote: > > >> I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet. > > >> But I > > >> suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent weight > > >> of > > >> wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some > > >> sort of > > >> air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the > > >> blanket. > > >> The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at > > >> all. > > >> Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide > > >> shaving > > >> to get it thin as possible. > > >> > > >> I still have good use for my wool blankets. > > >> > > >> Capt. Lahti > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ---------------------- > > >> hist_text list info: > > >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > hist_text list info: >http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:21:51 -0700 From: Ole Jensen Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding Paul, I have all day and can make more than one trip. During the fur trade I would have probably had 3 mules or horses so I could haul my plews to Rendezvous or the nearest Fort. In the summer I would only have 2 blankets for the trip which I could carry on my mount. In the fall the party I was with would either head back to there last trapping area and set up for the trapping season or find a new area and do the same. I might even purchase an Iron pot at Rendezvous and bring it back to our trapping area , along with my Indian woman and her two pack annimals. Ole On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Paul Jones wrote: > Ole, > > What do you estimate the total weight to be of 1 Hudson bay, 1 > Whitney, 2 > Barron 5 point blankets wrapped with canvas, together with the > addition of 3 > Hudson bay's and 1 Whitney as a ground pad wrapped with Russian > sheeting? > Can you carry this or does it require some other means of > transportation? > It will surely keep you warm and dry, but the bulk and weight seem > somewhat > intimidating in my view, and I would assume that this set-up is not > for a > walk-in situation, or am I mistaken? > > Regards, > > Paul > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ole Jensen" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding > > >> Don, >> For years I have used 1 hudson bay, 1 whitney, and 2 Barron 5 point >> blankets wraped with canvas. >> In the future I will use the same with the addition of 3 hudson bay's >> and 1 whitney as a ground pad wraped with russian sheating. >> Ole >> On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 07:00 PM, Phyllis and Don Keas >> wrote: >> >>> Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have >>> slept >>> is 12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and >>> plan on carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don >>> >>> On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti >>> wrote: >>>> I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet. >>>> But I >>>> suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent >>>> weight >>>> of >>>> wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some >>>> sort of >>>> air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the >>>> blanket. >>>> The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at >>>> all. >>>> Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide >>>> shaving >>>> to get it thin as possible. >>>> >>>> I still have good use for my wool blankets. >>>> >>>> Capt. Lahti >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------- >>>> hist_text list info: >>>> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> hist_text list info: >>> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >>> >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> >> > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:10:55 -0800 From: "Larry Butler" Subject: MtMan-List: Deer season This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3A948.50D3C0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi to the list Deer season has finally arrived here southern central Oregon. Good = black tail country. The first day my 40+ year old sonenlaw Killed his first buck. Young = forked horn.=20 Shot it 3 times. I guess buck fever can strike at any age. I jumped a 4 point and it ran with in 30 feet of this same boy. It was = going so fast he had little chance in this brush. (western count). =20 I have 2 sons and 2 grandsons in the party. The rest of us couldn't put = horns on anything. The youngest grand son is 12 and is his first year. I had 5 does with = in 200 feet standing in front of him but, he passed on them. I wonder = if he will do the same when a buck shows it's self. He won't shoot a = bird. Time will tell. Lots of season left. Larry Butler - ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3A948.50D3C0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi to the list
 
Deer season has finally arrived here southern = central=20 Oregon.  Good black tail country.
 The first day my 40+ year old sonenlaw Killed = his first=20 buck.  Young forked horn.
Shot it 3 times.  I guess buck fever can strike = at any=20 age.
I jumped a 4 point and it ran with in 30 feet of = this same=20 boy.  It was going so fast he had little chance in this = brush. =20 (western count). 
 
I have 2 sons and 2 grandsons in the party.  = The rest of=20 us couldn't put horns on anything.
 
The youngest grand son is 12 and is his first = year.  I=20 had 5 does with in 200 feet standing in front of him but, he passed on=20 them.  I wonder if he will do the same when a buck shows it's = self. =20 He won't shoot a bird.  Time will tell.
 
Lots of season left.
 
Larry Butler

- ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3A948.50D3C0A0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:15:47 -0600 From: "Paul Jones" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding Ole, Thanks for the response. I agree, that one can make more than one trip, however, in deep winter conditions, such as those I have experienced in Montana, snow-shoeing in and out, depending on terrain and distance, can be taxing, at best. Personally I like Crazy's idea of a toboggan, but here in Texas that would be as useful as ................, heavens, I cannot think of a fair comparison! Of course, I am assuming that the camp is not otherwise accessible, but I assume that you are like most of us and prefer the more hardcore opportunities to test ourselves and our gear--within reason and keeping safety first in mind---and camping in the snow and extreme cold is about as harsh a test as we are likely to encounter. And you are correct, had we been operating during the actual fur trade, horses would have been our salvation in this regard. Take care, Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ole Jensen" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding > Paul, > I have all day and can make more than one trip. > During the fur trade I would have probably had 3 mules or horses so I > could haul my plews to Rendezvous or the nearest Fort. In the summer I > would only have 2 blankets for the trip which I could carry on my mount. > In the fall the party I was with would either head back to there last > trapping area and set up for the trapping season or find a new area and > do the same. > I might even purchase an Iron pot at Rendezvous and bring it back to > our trapping area , along with my Indian woman and her two pack > annimals. > Ole > On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Paul Jones wrote: > > > Ole, > > > > What do you estimate the total weight to be of 1 Hudson bay, 1 > > Whitney, 2 > > Barron 5 point blankets wrapped with canvas, together with the > > addition of 3 > > Hudson bay's and 1 Whitney as a ground pad wrapped with Russian > > sheeting? > > Can you carry this or does it require some other means of > > transportation? > > It will surely keep you warm and dry, but the bulk and weight seem > > somewhat > > intimidating in my view, and I would assume that this set-up is not > > for a > > walk-in situation, or am I mistaken? > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ole Jensen" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bedding > > > > > >> Don, > >> For years I have used 1 hudson bay, 1 whitney, and 2 Barron 5 point > >> blankets wraped with canvas. > >> In the future I will use the same with the addition of 3 hudson bay's > >> and 1 whitney as a ground pad wraped with russian sheating. > >> Ole > >> On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 07:00 PM, Phyllis and Don Keas > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Wool blankets have always done me very well. The coldest I have > >>> slept > >>> is 12 below and two Witneys. I did all right, but now I am older and > >>> plan on carrying three in the winter. Old age you know. Don > >>> > >>> On Monday, November 10, 2003 11:42 AM, roger lahti > >>> wrote: > >>>> I got to agree with bb on bison robes being a pain if they get wet. > >>>> But I > >>>> suspect that, well I know my robe is warmer than an equivalent > >>>> weight > >>>> of > >>>> wool blanket. To make the blankets warm at all you still need some > >>>> sort of > >>>> air barrier like a canvas bed roll to cut the air movement by the > >>>> blanket. > >>>> The robe comes with it's own barrier but it's not water repellent at > >>>> all. > >>>> Brain tan is very light though when done right with plenty of hide > >>>> shaving > >>>> to get it thin as possible. > >>>> > >>>> I still have good use for my wool blankets. > >>>> > >>>> Capt. Lahti > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------- > >>>> hist_text list info: > >>>> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------- > >>> hist_text list info: > >>> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >>> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------- > >> hist_text list info: > >> http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:56:16 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3A967.CBCF6C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this has been talked about before but now I have gotten my hands = dirty I want to talk it again. First of all I can't remember anyone = suggesting skinning out the hind legs then hanging the critter by the = holes in the fur and postioning the animal so its weight help pull the = hide off. To try to explain it better. The holes for the hind legs are = at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is inward, the body is at the = bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go around it with your = knife. Secondly, you are all right fleshing is a b--------- . The guy who was = showing me doesn't claim to be any expert but he used a slicing sideward = movement with a sharp blade, sharpened on one side only. It was a move = that I would never do on a deer hide for fear of cutting the hell out of = it. But it worked on the beaver. The only question left that neither = of us knew was how much do you need to take off. We left it pretty = clean but it still had a little slime to it. It would remind me of not = getting all the epedermis off a deer hide. Is that good enough? Thanks in advance Wynn Ormond - ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3A967.CBCF6C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know this has been talked about = before but now I=20 have gotten my hands dirty I want to talk it again.  First of all I = can't=20 remember anyone suggesting skinning out the hind legs then hanging the = critter=20 by the holes in the fur and postioning the animal so its weight help = pull the=20 hide off.  To try to explain it better.  The holes for the = hind legs=20 are at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is inward, the body is at = the=20 bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go around it with your=20 knife.
 
Secondly, you are all right fleshing is = a=20 b--------- .  The guy who was showing me doesn't claim to be any = expert but=20 he used a slicing sideward movement with a sharp blade, sharpened on one = side=20 only.  It was a move that I would never do on a deer hide for fear = of=20 cutting the hell out of it.  But it worked on the beaver.  The = only=20 question left that neither of us knew was how much do you need to take=20 off.  We left it pretty clean but it still had a little slime to = it. =20 It would remind me of not getting all the epedermis off a deer = hide.  Is=20 that good enough?
 
Thanks in advance
Wynn Ormond
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3A967.CBCF6C40-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:46:39 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning - -------------------------------1068702399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/12/2003 8:49:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, cheyenne@pcu.net writes: To try to explain it better. The holes for the hind legs are at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is inward, the body is at the bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go around it with your knife. That would be one way to do it.... As most know, beavers, otters, and wolverine, don't readily give up their hide. I got spoiled on lynx, fox, and martin... you can ease the hide off like pulling off a sock. The first beaver I ever skint took over an hour, and it was a mess. I brought it over to an Eskimo lady I knew, and hard to say how long it took her to flesh it. When I stopped by to pick it up she said "Maybe next time you bring over beaver, and I skin?" ....and that's what I did. For a carcass she'd do 3-4 for me, as she liked to eat em. Back in the early 80's, I could get $40 for a nice blanket, and $25 from the Iditarod mushers for the carcass. (sled dog food) Most were caught with snares under the ice.... awful hard work to chop through 2-3 feet of ice. Especially when you could get $400+ for a lynx or wolverine in an easy to make cubby set.... Kinda miss that stuff..... Magpie (in trap free Washington State....aaaaaargh!) - -------------------------------1068702399 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 11/12/2003 8:49:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, cheyenn= e@pcu.net writes:
To try to explain it better.  Th= e holes for the hind legs are at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is in= ward, the body is at the bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go=20= around it with your knife.
That would be one way to do it.... As most know, beavers, otters, and w= olverine, don't readily give up their hide. I got spoiled on lynx, fox, and=20= martin... you can ease the hide off like pulling off a sock.
The first beaver I ever skint took over an hour, and it was a mess. I b= rought it over to an Eskimo lady I knew, and hard to say how long it took he= r to flesh it. When I stopped by to pick it up she said "Maybe next time you= bring over beaver, and I skin?" ....and that's what I did. For a carca= ss she'd do 3-4 for me, as she liked to eat em. Back in the early 80's, I co= uld get $40 for a nice blanket, and $25 from the Iditarod mushers for the ca= rcass. (sled dog food) Most were caught with snares under the ice.... awful=20= hard work to chop through 2-3 feet of ice. Especially when you could get $40= 0+ for a lynx or wolverine in an easy to make cubby set....
Kinda miss that stuff.....
 
Magpie
(in trap free Washington State....aaaaaargh!) 
- -------------------------------1068702399-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:55:13 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Beaver Skinning Wynn, I think the method you are suggesting would be tough. You must be refering to clean skinning of beaver too. Most clean skinners lay them on a table or in a small trough (? did I spell that right?) Some I have seen use bungee cords in the aid of pulling off the hide as they skin it. There really is no easy way to skin a beaver. Rough skinning is much easier but then as you know, it has to be fleshed. Either way you do it, practice makes perfect. I can rough skin, flesh, and tack on boards 3 little beaver in an hour and two blankets beaver in an hour. The hide must be fairly clean when done. If there is too much left on it will show when the hide is dried. You will see white spots of fat, these can be scraped off afterwards but the hide will be much better looking if done right before it dries. Hides that have too much fat on them will not dry properly and be soft in those spots. You'll see what I mean. Lots of the thinner membrane (the same as on rats) will simple dry up or melt away. This grease can be wiped away with paper towels. Good luck, bb > I know this has been talked about before but now I have gotten my hands > dirty I want to talk it again. First of all I can't remember anyone > suggesting skinning out the hind legs then hanging the critter by the > holes in the fur and postioning the animal so its weight help pull the > hide off. To try to explain it better. The holes for the hind legs are > at the top tied up to whatever, the hair is inward, the body is at the > bottom tail down the hide just peels off as you go around it with your > knife. > > Secondly, you are all right fleshing is a b--------- . The guy who was > showing me doesn't claim to be any expert but he used a slicing sideward > movement with a sharp blade, sharpened on one side only. It was a move > that I would never do on a deer hide for fear of cutting the hell out of > it. But it worked on the beaver. The only question left that neither of > us knew was how much do you need to take off. We left it pretty clean but > it still had a little slime to it. It would remind me of not getting all > the epedermis off a deer hide. Is that good enough? > > Thanks in advance > Wynn Ormond > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1266 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.