I've been reading and learning from the list so much it makes my head spin sometimes. I knowledge shared hear is beyond anythign I ever hoped fur. I seams if I carry enough hydrogen, I can just use it with air along the trail and make water when I need it. I think I'll start packing meat and compress it in straws, hide them in some reed stalks and roast them like fresh corn. I can't wait to try. Thanks for the seeds, they'll keep gowing I'm sure.

roger lahti <amm1719@charter.net> wrote:

bb,

Thanks for the idea on the compressed water in old air tanks. We used high
pressure tanks so we could carry a longer supply of air on the trucks. They
were wrapped with glass fiber or Kevlar, not sure which now and while very
light they were also very strong.

I think I can get some of those old tanks from city shops excess. Fill them
with water under great pressure and then counter the extra weight with
helium. According to my calculations I should be able to get 10 gallons of
water in one 3 gallon tank and with the helium reduce it's weight to a
negative 5 lbs. thus making it lighter than air and able to reduce my pack
load by 5 lbs. It will add bulk but wrapped in burlap as you suggest it will
look like another package of goods on top of my knapsack. I think I may
experiment with using hydrogen instead of helium. It burns well and could be
used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the water is used up.

See ya on the trail my friend.

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

> Capt.
> I perceived you correctly. I was only kidding about the water dipping
> and possum mating, though this was believed by some or all back then.
> I didn't take it as an attack at all. I know everyone on the list
> means well.
> I personally compress my water in old yellow colored aircraft oxygen
> bottles and can then carry ten times the water, though the bottles
> then weigh ten times more which is something to consider especially
> when on foot. But I didn't want to bring up compressed water because
> everyone would say,"Hey! That's not right! They didn't have aluminum
> oxygen bottles back then!"
> I've tried cans of evaporated water (like evaporated milk) but you
> have to carry more cans of water to cut it with thus defeating the
> whole purpose. So I went back to the compressed oxygen/water bottles.
> Which can bought at most Army/Navy stores. Just wrap them in a burlap
> sack to make them look historical.
> That a tip from your old friend,
> bb
>
>
> > bb,
> >
> > Hopefully you perceived correctly that I was not attacking you at all
but
> > the "Captains" contention that such a practice was valid. There are
folks
> > listening who might actually believe it to be true.
> >
> > I pack some water too. And I check my destination and it's water source
to
> > determine how I am going to deal with the need for water. I don't and
> > can't
> > pack enough water for a weekend on my back. So there are some places
that
> > I
> > choose not to visit for lack of a suitable water supply that can be made
> > safe.
> >
> > I know nothing about possums and how they breed but will play along with
> > you
> > if you wish to "fish" someone in on that one.
> >
> > While it is pointed out by many students of the fur trade that packing
> > water
> > was considered effeminate, it is only offered in the context of the
> > history
> > and does not reflect what most of us do in practice and is not promoted
as
> > wise to copy.
> >
> > YMOS
> > Capt. Lahti'
> >
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