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hist_text-digest       Sunday, January 11 2004       Volume 01 : Number 1298



In this issue:

-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List:  now water
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List:  now water
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       RE: MtMan-List: Lyman GPR
-       Re: MtMan-List:  now water
-       Re: MtMan-List:  now water
-       MtMan-List: auth ae56bf71 subscribe hist_text mclark1999@juno.com
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List: Packframe/Pack Basket/Knapsack??
-       RE: MtMan-List: Lyman GPR
-       Re: MtMan-List:  now water
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
-       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:31:05 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

I like the compressed water thing..<g>  .. gonna try it.. I have a tight
wooden keg....   


> 
>     I personally compress my water in old yellow colored aircraft oxygen
> bottles and can then carry ten times the water, though the bottles
> then weigh ten times more which is something to consider especially
> when on foot. But I didn't want to bring up compressed water because
> everyone would say,"Hey! That's not right! They didn't have aluminum
> oxygen bottles back then!"
>     I've tried cans of evaporated water (like evaporated milk) but you
> have to carry more cans of water to cut it with thus defeating the
> whole purpose. So I went back to the compressed oxygen/water bottles.
> Which can bought at most Army/Navy stores. Just wrap them in a burlap
> sack to make them look historical.
>     That a tip from your old friend,
>      bb
>
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:59:47 -0700
From: James and Sue Stone <jandsstone@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  now water

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One of the sickest events I have had is on bad water.  Mid seventies, 
visiting a friend at a very old house.  I got water out of the tap, and 
downed it.  A minute later someone said, "where did you get the water 
you just drank?"  I said from the tap, the answer was something like, 
"Be it unto you according to your faith."  Someone explained the house 
really had no culinary water system, they just had a gravity feed 
collection point "uphill."  Several days later I ws doubled over.
Sparks

Randal Bublitz wrote:

> I got sick from a bug in the water (would have cost more to test for 
> which kind, so didn't test (giardia ?).  This was 14 years ago- it 
> cost $40 for the Dr., $40 for perscription to keep my guts from trying 
> to turn themselves inside out, to let me get more than 20 ft. from a 
> toilet, from keeping me from completely dehydrating, etc.... 
> etc.....   The ceramic filter pump that filters out down to .5 micron, 
> which includes any living organism, heavy metals, radioactive 
> isotopes, etc......  cost $65.  I should have bought the filter in the 
> first place.  It would have been cheaper, and saved me much suffering 
> before I finally went to the Dr.. In my opinion, buy a good filter and 
> use it if in doubt of water source.  The pump/filters are more 
> expensive (but often better) these days, but the Dr.s  and 
> perscriptions cost more too.   My 2 cents.   hardtack
>  
>  
>
>         And, there are biological contaminants in almost every
>     waterway in the U.S. (and probably world) that may or may not be
>     the result of 'run-offs' that can make one seriously ill.
>         Use of filters for obtaining water in the wilderness is an
>     absolutely necessity for protecting ones health. May not be
>     considered "authentic". But remember suffering horribly and dying
>     young was very "authentic" back then.
>     Frank
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One of the sickest events I have had is on bad water. &nbsp;Mid seventies, visiting
a friend at a very old house. &nbsp;I got water out of the tap, and downed it.
&nbsp;A minute later someone said, "where did you get the water you just drank?"
&nbsp;I said from the tap, the answer was something like, "Be it unto you according
to your faith." &nbsp;Someone explained the house really had no culinary water
system, they just had a gravity feed collection point "uphill." &nbsp;Several
days later I ws doubled over.<br>
Sparks<br>
<br>
Randal Bublitz wrote:<br>
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  <div>I got sick from a bug in the water (would have cost more to test for
which kind, so didn't test (giardia ?).&nbsp; This was 14 years ago- it cost $40
for the Dr., $40 for perscription to keep my guts from trying to turn themselves
inside out, to let me get more than 20 ft. from a toilet, from keeping me
from completely dehydrating, etc.... etc.....&nbsp;&nbsp; The ceramic filter pump that
filters out down to .5 micron, which includes any living organism, heavy
metals, radioactive isotopes, etc......&nbsp; cost $65.&nbsp; I should have bought
the filter in the first place.&nbsp; It would have been cheaper, and saved me
much suffering before I finally went to the Dr.. In my opinion, buy a good
filter and use it if in doubt of water source.&nbsp; The pump/filters are more
expensive (but often better) these days, but the Dr.s&nbsp; and perscriptions
cost more too.&nbsp;&nbsp; My 2 cents.&nbsp;&nbsp; hardtack</div>
 
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in the U.S. (and probably world) that may or may not be the result of 'run-offs'
that can make one seriously ill.</div>
 
    <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Use of filters for obtaining water in the wilderness is an absolutely
necessity for protecting ones health. May not be considered "authentic".
But remember suffering horribly and dying young was very "authentic" back
then.</div>
 
    <div>Frank</div>
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:01:36 -0500
From: "DOUBLE EDGE FORGE" <deforge1@bright.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

I will pay a bounty for a video of Hardtack blowing into his keg to compress
the air...<GG>
D



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From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy


> I like the compressed water thing..<g>  .. gonna try it.. I have a tight
> wooden keg....


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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:46:17 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

D,  the secret is compressing the liquid..<g>......   hardtack


> [Original Message]
> From: DOUBLE EDGE FORGE <deforge1@bright.net>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: 1/10/04 5:02:16 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
>
> I will pay a bounty for a video of Hardtack blowing into his keg to
compress
> the air...<GG>
> D
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
>
>
> > I like the compressed water thing..<g>  .. gonna try it.. I have a tight
> > wooden keg....
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:15:05 +0000
From: "Sean Boushie" <flintlocknfur@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

Oh man where's my shovel????? Its sure getting deep in here tonight!



>From: "roger lahti" <amm1719@charter.net>
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
>Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:31:38 -0800
>
>bb,
>
>Thanks for the idea on the compressed water in old air tanks. We used high
>pressure tanks so we could carry a longer supply of air on the trucks. They
>were wrapped with glass fiber or Kevlar, not sure which now and while very
>light they were also very strong.
>
>I think I can get some of those old tanks from city shops excess. Fill them
>with water under great pressure and then counter the extra weight with
>helium. According to my calculations I should be able to get 10 gallons of
>water in one 3 gallon tank and with the helium reduce it's weight to a
>negative 5 lbs. thus making it lighter than air and able to reduce my pack
>load by 5 lbs. It will add bulk but wrapped in burlap as you suggest it 
>will
>look like another package of goods on top of my knapsack. I think I may
>experiment with using hydrogen instead of helium. It burns well and could 
>be
>used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the water is used up.
>
>See ya on the trail my friend.
>
>YMOS
>Capt. Lahti'
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <beaverboy@sofast.net>
>To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:55 PM
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy
>
>
> > Capt.
> >     I perceived you correctly. I was only kidding about the water 
>dipping
> > and possum mating, though this was believed by some or all back then.
> > I didn't take it as an attack at all. I know everyone on the list
> > means well.
> >     I personally compress my water in old yellow colored aircraft oxygen
> > bottles and can then carry ten times the water, though the bottles
> > then weigh ten times more which is something to consider especially
> > when on foot. But I didn't want to bring up compressed water because
> > everyone would say,"Hey! That's not right! They didn't have aluminum
> > oxygen bottles back then!"
> >     I've tried cans of evaporated water (like evaporated milk) but you
> > have to carry more cans of water to cut it with thus defeating the
> > whole purpose. So I went back to the compressed oxygen/water bottles.
> > Which can bought at most Army/Navy stores. Just wrap them in a burlap
> > sack to make them look historical.
> >     That a tip from your old friend,
> >      bb
> >
> >
> > > bb,
> > >
> > > Hopefully you perceived correctly that I was not attacking you at all
>but
> > > the "Captains" contention that such a practice was valid. There are
>folks
> > > listening who might actually believe it to be true.
> > >
> > > I pack some water too. And I check my destination and it's water 
>source
>to
> > > determine how I am going to deal with the need for water. I don't and
> > > can't
> > > pack enough water for a weekend on my back. So there are some places
>that
> > > I
> > > choose not to visit for lack of a suitable water supply that can be 
>made
> > > safe.
> > >
> > > I know nothing about possums and how they breed but will play along 
>with
> > > you
> > > if you wish to "fish" someone in on that one. <G>
> > >
> > > While it is pointed out by many students of the fur trade that packing
> > > water
> > > was considered effeminate, it is only offered in the context of the
> > > history
> > > and does not reflect what most of us do in practice and is not 
>promoted
>as
> > > wise  to copy.
> > >
> > > YMOS
> > > Capt. Lahti'
> > >
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:49:38 EST
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  now water

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In a message dated 1/10/2004 4:22:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
rjbublitz@earthlink.net writes:
buy a good filter and use it if in doubt of water source
Randy (and others), Any suggestions as to what type (brand) of filters work 
best, don't clog up easily or cost a fortune to replace the innerds?   Barney

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:51:49 EST
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

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In a message dated 1/10/2004 5:02:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
deforge1@bright.net writes:
to compress
the air...<GG>
compressing air is easy...... try compressing water!  Barn

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:57:49 -0500
From: "Jeff Gerke" <jgerke@mail.azteca.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Lyman GPR

Rick,

I am asking $275 and will include the shipping if it is reasonable.  This i=
nlcudes a spare ramrod and a sling made by Wilde Weavery.  The rifle is abo=
ut a year old.  It is in great shape except for a couple areas on the stock=
 that have some light wear.  I can send some pictures if you are interested=
.

Jeff

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>Jeff,
>    I didnt see your ad. How much are you asking?
>                                  Rick
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:49:50 +0000
From: amm1616@comcast.net
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  now water

Barney,
    There are a few ways to keep the filers lasting
longer. On one of Randy's and I canoe trips, I put a
coffee filter (like the one you use in a instant coffee
maker) over the inlet and it kept the Green River's
nice silt from wasting it. But any thing will help-
using a thin piece of cloth to strain through and catch
the larger particles, having friend test the water first
and see if his clogs up is another good way. :)
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:44:20 EST
From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  now water

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In a message dated 1/11/2004 1:50:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
amm1616@comcast.net writes:
having friend test the water first
and see if his clogs up is another good way. :)
Ahhh, that's the reason you took Randy with you, eh?  LMAO  Thanks for the 
advise.  Barney   

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:21:17 -0700
From: "Wynn Ormond" <cheyenne@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

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  Dear Larson:

  I have never carried hydgrogen with me on period camps but I have made =
water along the trail and have found it not only heplful but almost =
indespinsible.   You oatta try it sometime.

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:18:04 -0800 (PST)
From: George Noe <gnoe39@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

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roger lahti <amm1719@charter.net> wrote: 
 
 
I think as long as I don't use it to talk funny around the camp fire I should be ok.
 
Capt. L The Helium is what makes you talk  funny.
 When Hydrogen burns with Oxygen it produces water.
 I guess you could just carry one container of of hydrogen (twice as big as the Oxygen container) and one of Oxygen.
 Just burn them and condense the vapor ot a liquid.
Two parts Hydrogen + one part Oxygen = 2 H2O
Capt.
 Hope we don't have to say "Rember the Hindinburg"


. I think I may
experiment with using hydrogen instead of helium. It burns well and could be
used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the water is used up.


 



George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com >                           
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>roger lahti &lt;amm1719@charter.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>I think as long as I don't use it to talk funny around the camp fire I should be ok.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>Capt. L The Helium is what makes you talk&nbsp; funny.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif">&nbsp;When Hydrogen burns with Oxygen it produces water.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif">&nbsp;I guess you could just carry one container of of hydrogen (twice as big as the Oxygen container) and one of Oxygen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif">&nbsp;Just burn them and condense the vapor ot a liquid.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif">Two parts Hydrogen + one part Oxygen&nbsp;= 2 H2O</FONT></DIV>
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<P>. I think I may<BR>experiment with using <U><FONT color=#ff0000>hydrogen</FONT></U> instead of helium. It burns well and could be<BR>used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the water is used up.<BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:43:10 -0700
From: "Wynn Ormond" <cheyenne@pcu.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Packframe/Pack Basket/Knapsack??

Dear Capt Lahti

I appreciate your being such a gentleman about this.  However, I was
thinking more in the line of a loan than to have you actually take
possession of my girl friend.  That way should you die while traveling into
camp and left all that fine plunder you spoke of we wouldn't even have to
unpack, it would just have to be brought back to her humble abode.

Also, not to demean the fair lady that has accepted your hand by my speaking
for her, but I don't believe she would find the need to become jealous of my
girlfriend.  Granted my fair friend is a sight to see, fills the air with a
splendid noise, and goes about her work with much joy and zeal.  Several
members of the PRP and a few others have shared her services with me and
have even taken pictures while in the act.  Some of those pics have somehow
made it into the hands of those left at home and they have not objected to
loudly.

Indeed, unless he has changed it recently Crazy Cyot has a pic on his site
that shows my girl friend and I on the trail together.  You can tell which
one she is by the large size of her ears and her beautiful dark hair.

http://members.tripod.com/gazingcyot/index.htm

You know until I saw that pic of Crazy's and his description, I had not
realized that she was in fact my girl friend, but hey if my sponcer says
that a mule can hold that position who am I to argue with him.  I kinda
wonder if he aint a little jealous too.

Wynn Ormond


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> Wynn,
>
> I would not think to deprive you of her company. Not a gentlemanly thing
to
> do at all. Having someone who has no real value to another bond themselves
> to me by their own free will seems much more fair and sporting. And if
they
> do not perform, dismissing them will be much more easy than turning out a
> young maiden. I confess I have a weak spot for the ladies and could not
let
> one go regardless of the provocation, thus I would find myself so
encumbered
> with numbers of them that I could not feed them or house them properly and
I
> hate to see a lady go hungry or cold.
>
> Besides my wife would protest vigorously. Therein lies the danger.
>
> I'll go as light as I can as far as I can and make camp alone or with a
> "male" partner thank you. <G>
>
> YMOS
> Capt. Lahti'
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:22:45 -0800
From: "RICK TABOR" <blackshirt75@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Lyman GPR

Jeff,
   Go ahead and send me some pictures.
                         Thank you,
                            Rick

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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:41:48 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:  now water

Mike, etc...., that's a good point.  If possible, we carry those
collapsible canvas buckets- fill them at night and let the stuff settle,
then pump off of the top of the bucket in the morning.  Some river water is
very silty.  "to thick to navigate, too thin to plough..."  Mike taught me
the coffe filter trick.  Beware of Mike's coffee <g>.   hardtack


> Barney,
>     There are a few ways to keep the filers lasting
> longer. On one of Randy's and I canoe trips, I put a
> coffee filter (like the one you use in a instant coffee
> maker) over the inlet and it kept the Green River's
> nice silt from wasting it. But any thing will help-
> using a thin piece of cloth to strain through and catch
> the larger particles, having friend test the water first
> and see if his clogs up is another good way. :)
>                    mike.



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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:42:48 -0800
From: "Randal Bublitz" <rjbublitz@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy

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"don't drink the water...." <g>......


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 Larson Harsey 
 wrote in part:

 I seams if I carry enough hydrogen, I can just use it with air along the trail and make water when I need it. 



Dear Larson:

I have never carried hydgrogen with me on period camps but I have made water along the trail and have found it not only heplful but almost indespinsible.   You oatta try it sometime.

Wynn Ormond
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<DIV>"don't drink the water...." &lt;g&gt;......</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;I seams if I carry enough hydrogen, I can just use it with air along the trail&nbsp;and make water when I need it.&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">I have never carried hydgrogen with me on period camps but I have made water along the trail and have found it not only heplful but almost indespinsible.&nbsp;&nbsp; You oatta try it sometime.</DIV>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:15:46 -0600
From: "Lanney Ratcliff" <lanneyratcliff@charter.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT

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You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this list is likely not to =
see all your tongues in your collective cheeks and might actually think =
that you can compress water?  We had a technician at my lab who was =
convinced that water could be compressed and simply would not listen to =
facts. One of our testing devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he =
confused the compression of air in one part of the device and thought =
the water in the OTHER part of the device was being compressed during =
the testing procedure. He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab =
where he is probably still in a fog.  He was a nice kid who was proud of =
playing in the Praise and Glory Band at church.
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