From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1314 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, February 15 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1314 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Is this thing working? -       RE: MtMan-List: Is this thing working? -       MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo -       Re: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo -       Re: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo -       Re: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo -       Re: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:28:24 -0800 From: Dale Nelson Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Is this thing working? - --Apple-Mail-2--192943050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed It's working for me, I haven't had anything come my way for several days also. Dale Nelson On Sunday, February 15, 2004, at 06:11 PM, Lee Teter wrote: > February 15, 2004 > Hello. I haven't heard anything for about three days, I'm wondering if > I'm still hooked in. Our sever was down for about 24 hours. > Lee > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online - --Apple-Mail-2--192943050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII It's working for me, I haven't had anything come my way for several days also. Dale Nelson On Sunday, February 15, 2004, at 06:11 PM, Lee Teter wrote: February 15, 2004 Hello. I haven't heard anything for about three days, I'm wondering if I'm still hooked in. Our sever was down for about 24 hours. Lee < Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: 1999,1999,FFFFGet your refund fast by filing online - --Apple-Mail-2--192943050-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:02:35 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Is this thing working? - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Lee, I've noticed things quiet down during weekends. I've speculated a cross between some on work computers and folks getting out on the ground during weekends? The AMM western territorial was held last week in Texas, put on by the TX/OK brigade. Six of us Californians traveled over for it, and we were not disappointed. Those TX/OK brothers sure treated us good. The doin's was on a brother's Ranch about an hour outside San Antonio. A group of about 30 of us went to the Alamo on 2-5, in our skins, etc... that was fun. I'm still playing catch up from my over a week away from home. I'll bet there will be a good article coming up in the T & LR. I hope to share a camp fire with you in the future. Yfab, hardtack - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Teter February 15, 2004 Hello. I haven't heard anything for about three days, I'm wondering if I'm still hooked in. Our sever was down for about 24 hours. Lee - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Lee,  I've noticed things quiet down during weekends.  I've speculated a cross between some on work computers and folks getting out on the ground during weekends?  The AMM western territorial was held last week in Texas, put on by the TX/OK brigade.  Six of us Californians traveled over for it, and we were not disappointed.  Those TX/OK brothers sure treated us good.  The doin's was on a brother's Ranch about an hour outside San Antonio.   A group of about 30 of us went to the Alamo on 2-5, in our skins, etc...  that was fun.  I'm still playing catch up from my over a week away from home.  I'll bet there will be a good article coming up in the T & LR.  I hope to share a camp fire with you in the future.  Yfab, hardtack
 
 
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Hello. I haven't heard anything for about three days, I'm wondering if I'm still hooked in. Our sever was down for about 24 hours.
Lee

- ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Teter Subject: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo - --0-2112936010-1076901169=:30904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, since no one is writing much I'd like to know if anyone else out there has read a book called Destruction of the Buffalo by Andrew Isenburg. I did a paper on the subject a few years before the book came out in 2000 and was surprised to see a book by a modern University that seemed to agree with my findings. Isenburg is a Princeton U. History professor and made revelations that should have had the book on shelves everywhere, but I don't see it around much. The book provides information about the fictional and overestimated 72 million buffalo ( when the environment would only support 20 to 30 million or even less), the killing of the reproduction base (cows) for robes, the Indian waste of millions of animals for robes and tongues alone, the Indian driven market (rather than just the "euroamerican" evil of free enterprise ), and much other insight not seen in the books usually found at book stores (and I have never seen one at any U.S. Park Service historic site I've visited.) My own little paper, a paltry thing compared to this book, was put together to accompany some of my art and was slowly built on evidence I found after seeing references by trappers who were commenting on the decline of the bison as early as the 1830's. It is very good, very scholarly, yet easy to read. It must be read slow though, because every sentence is important, and many of the references are some of those hidden jewels I had not heard of. There is no doubt the hide hunters finished the buffalo, but it is abundently clear that, without a sudden change of lifestyle, the Indian would have killed them all anyway. Anyone else out there read it? Lee Teter - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online - --0-2112936010-1076901169=:30904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well, since no one is writing much I'd like to know if anyone else out there has read a book called Destruction of the Buffalo by Andrew Isenburg.
 
I did a paper on the subject a few years before the book came out in 2000 and was surprised to see a book by a modern University that seemed to agree with my findings. Isenburg is a Princeton U. History professor and made revelations that should have had the book on shelves everywhere, but I don't see it around much.
 
The book provides information about the fictional and overestimated  72 million buffalo ( when the environment would only support 20 to 30 million or even less), the killing of the reproduction base (cows) for robes, the Indian waste of millions of animals for robes and tongues alone, the Indian driven market (rather than just the "euroamerican" evil of free enterprise ), and much other insight not seen in the books usually found at book stores (and I have never seen one at any U.S. Park Service historic site I've visited.)
 
My own little paper, a paltry thing compared to this book, was put together to accompany some of my art and was slowly built on evidence I found after seeing references by trappers who were commenting on the decline of the bison as early as the 1830's. It is very good, very scholarly, yet easy to read. It must be read slow though, because every sentence is important, and many of the references are some of those hidden jewels I had not heard of.
 
There is no doubt the hide hunters finished the buffalo, but it is abundently clear that, without a sudden change of lifestyle, the Indian would have killed them all anyway. 
 
Anyone else out there read it?
 
Lee Teter


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That last paragraph should read
 
. . . abundantly clear that, without a sudden change of lifestyle, the Indians would have killed the buffalo to the point of extinction.
 
I think that states it a little better.
 
Lee


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Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online - --0-1914754565-1076901900=:61842-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:45:25 -0800 From: "RP Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Indian contribution to decimation of buffalo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0123_01C3F3FC.41D51E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lee, No, I haven't read it but the conclusions found it do not surprise me. = While I have the greatest respect for the native Americans, their = failure to acknowledge that with their coming to this hemisphere they = wiped out any number of species by their subsistence hunting techniques = and with the coming of the horse, were as that book points out, well on = their way of rubbing out the bison.=20 The truth is the truth no matter that it hurts. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_0123_01C3F3FC.41D51E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lee,
 
No, I haven't read it = but the=20 conclusions found it do not surprise me. While I have the greatest = respect for=20 the native Americans, their failure to acknowledge that with their = coming to=20 this hemisphere they wiped out any number of species by their = subsistence=20 hunting techniques and with the coming of the horse, were as that book = points=20 out, well on their way of rubbing out the bison.
 
The truth is the truth = no matter=20 that it hurts.
 
YMOS
Capt. = Lahti'
 
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This won't = be a paper, I am reconstructing the facts from notes and references and = it will seem just a personal narrative. =20 First a series of facts (and near facts in the absence of precise = numbers) =B7 The population of Bison at the end of the civil war was = estimated variously at 35 million to 75 million. Based on the number of = square miles occupied at the time and educated estimates of the carrying = capacity per acre, I favor the lower end of that range. =B7 Long term studies of Bison by Dr. Mary Meagher at = Yellowstone found that in the wild a ten year old bison was an oddity, = normal average life span is more like 7 years. The literature is full = of references to 15 or twenty year old animals in captivity, these do = not reflect the norm in the wild. These are pampered, well fed, zoo = animals which never even delayed a meal, let alone missed one. =B7 This means that, in the absence of disturbance, about one = seventh of the population would die naturally every year. That is a = minimum of five a million animal natural background death rate. = (Assuming the lowest population estimates.) =B7 This had been going on for millenia and the bones remain for = decades. We don't have hyenas that eat bones as they do in Africa, or a = species of vulture that also eats bones. =B7 References to huge numbers of bison bones scattered on the = prairies show up as early as the 1840's in the journals of a young = missionary travelling to join the Whitman Mission to the Nez Perce, (so = much for the huge piles of bones offered as evidence of the slaughter.) = from the original journal now in the Whitman Mission Museum in Walla = Walla WA. =B7 Calf survival of Bison is phenomenal when compared to = cattle, close to 96%. =B7 Bison range had shrunk to about half the originally recorded = distribution by the time the commercial slaughter began following the = civil war. They (in pre-contact days) occurred in California, Oregon, = Washington, Nevada, Idaho and as far east as Florida, North Carolina, = Virginia, Pennsylvania in Colonial days. (The early Spanish reported = killing them in Florida in the 1500's) The Dominguez-Escalante = expedition killed about a dozen near what is now Vernal Utah in 1776. = Coronado described them on his famous expedition well south into = Chihuahua Mexico. Zebulon Pike's expedition killed them in South Park at = the head of the Arkansas River in the Rockies. Bison were killed in = Virginia until after 1700. (The best map of bison distribution is in the = November 1994 or 95 issue of National Geographic) =B7 During the peak years of the hide trade, 1871-1873, The = Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe RR shipped 469,000 hides, in total, for = those three years. Those are the three years of greatest slaughter. This = is an average of 156,000 animals per year from a population of at least = 35 million, a population which was reproducing at a rate of at least 5 = million a year! Killing one animal out of every 200 animals is not a = very efficient way of exterminating, especially when they are = reproducing all the time. It also means that the slaughter in the three = biggest years was equal to 1/200th of the natural background death rate, = and about =BD% of the population. (State Department of Fish and Game = agencies try to keep the annual hunting harvest of deer down to 10% of = the population to keep a wide safety factor to avoid reducing the = population. This policy fails, all deer populations in all states are = increasing beyond management goals.) =20 It becomes obvious early on in this process to see that the slaughter of = the bison for hides could not possibly be the factor that brought the = animal to the verge of extinction. In fact, I believe it was cattle = diseases brought in by domestic livestock. Think about some other facts: = (These are not necessarily connected but each has the potential to have = influence). =B7 The loss of earlier range that occurred from the 1500's to = the middle 1800's might be postulated as the result of animals being = infected as the herds became exposed to cattle on the fringes of their = original range as settlement crept forward. =B7 Later, the travelers on the Oregon Trail averaged taking 16 = domestic animals apiece as they began their trek. With a quarter million = people going over the Oregon Trail, (through the heart of bison range) = it means 4 million head of livestock accompanied them. Losses were = horrendous. The carcasses remained to contaminate the bison. This was = about the time that the germ theory began to penetrate the professional = community, but not the general public. There was no such thing as = vaccination for animals. =B7 The most widespread cattle disease at the time was = brucellosis, which tends to cause a spontaneous abortion when the fetus = is about the size of a teacup! With millions of crows, magpies and = ravens following the herds, no evidence would survive more than minutes. =B7 Hide hunters were paid by the pound, so it was to their = advantage to shoot the largest animals. (males). =B7 The market for hides was primarily for the myriad of leather = belts to drive machinery in the expanding industrial revolution, (male = hides again, bigger hides yield longer, stronger belts.) =B7 The selective removal of males from a population of animals = with the polygamous pattern of mating behavior of all bovids, is to = stimulate population growth. This is because when there is selective = removal of males, many of the consumers of the largest amount of = critical winter forage are removed, leaving more and better food for = cows and calves to get through the winter. This pattern increases the = proportion of successful pregnancies and calf survival. In addition, the = percentage of the population that is made up of reproducing females = becomes gradually larger. =B7 Last, from an economic point of view: All hides were = freighted to the railheads by horse drawn wagons. Economics dictate, and = restrict, the distance beyond which such transport becomes unprofitable. = The price of the hides was fixed but the cost of getting them to the = railroad increased with each day of travel. Only three railroads = penetrated the plains at this time (two of these were small spurs in the = Dakotas), So the bison could only be profitably shot within a distance = where horse and wagon could carry the hides to the railroad and then = return for another load in a short enough time to carry enough loads to = make a profit in a season. I would estimate this would be an absolute = maximum distance of 50 or 60 miles. That's a week out and a week back = with a heavily loaded wagon. That distance from the railroads only = covers a tiny fraction of the plains. Try drawing a shaded area 60 = miles on either side of the three railroads of the times and see how = much of the plains could have been harvested of bison. =B7 Lastly, all residual populations of bison were found to be = infected with brucellosis when tests became available. =20 The scenario of the commercial shooting as the causal factor for the = disappearance of the bison simply cannot be made to make sense. In fact = it is not even remotely possible. =20 However, if you stop the replacement through birth, in about seven years = you run out of adults! I'm sure it was not a complete stop, brucellosis = spreads most commonly by the cows nuzzling the afterbirth of the aborted = fetus in curiosity. The spread would be necessarily slow. It took 25 = years from the beginning of the slaughter. However, it had probably been = going on for a century or more at the fringes of the range. =20 Is this presented in such a way that a person without the training in = ecology and population dynamics can still understand clearly how = preposterous the "accepted wisdom" about the bison is? =20 I'm probably not qualified to judge that because I have spent a career = since 1953 working with the subject of wildlife population dynamics. =20 Tell me if this piques your interest. =20 A couple of references: Death on the Prairies by Paul I Wellman and The Buffalo Book by David A Dary (avon Books 1974)The Time of The = Buffalo, Tom McHugh. Alfred Knopf, 1972 Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3F404.D618C560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Lee,
 
A friend, Alan Stumph, a wildlife = zoologist=20 and botonist put this paper together. It gave me a whole different = outlook on=20 the extermination of the buffalo. I thought it was quite=20 interesting.
 

I think=20 you would be interested in the information I had collected on the Bison = and=20 their near extinction.  I = think it=20 is an absolutely amazing story and demonstrates clearly how something = that is=20 taught in error for so many years is so blindly accepted by the public. = This=20 won=92t be a paper, I am reconstructing the facts from notes and = references and it=20 will seem just a personal narrative.

 

First a=20 series of facts (and near facts in the absence of precise = numbers)

=B7        =20 The population of Bison = at the end=20 of the civil war was estimated variously at 35 million to 75 million. = Based on=20 the number of square miles occupied at the time and educated estimates = of the=20 carrying capacity per acre, I favor the lower end of that = range.

=B7        =20 Long term studies of = Bison by Dr.=20 Mary Meagher at Yellowstone found that in the wild a ten year old = bison=20 was an oddity, normal average life span =20 is more like 7 years.  = The=20 literature is full of references to 15 or twenty year old animals in = captivity,=20 these do not reflect the norm in the wild. These are pampered, well fed, = zoo=20 animals which never even delayed a meal, let alone missed = one.

=B7        =20 This means that, in the absence of disturbance, = about=20 one seventh of the population would die naturally every year. That is a = minimum of five a million = animal=20 natural background death rate. (Assuming the lowest population=20 estimates.)

=B7        =20 This had been going on = for millenia=20 and the bones remain for decades. We don=92t have hyenas that eat bones = as they do=20 in Africa, or a species of vulture that also eats bones.

=B7        =20 References to = huge numbers of=20 bison bones scattered on the prairies show up as early as the 1840=92s = in the=20 journals of a young missionary travelling to join the Whitman Mission to = the Nez=20 Perce, (so much for the huge piles of bones offered as evidence of the=20 slaughter.) from the original journal now in the Whitman Mission = Museum in=20 Walla Walla WA.

=B7        =20 Calf survival of Bison = is=20 phenomenal when compared to cattle, close to 96%.

=B7        =20 Bison range had shrunk = to about=20 half the originally recorded distribution by the time the commercial = slaughter=20 began following the civil war. They (in pre-contact days) occurred in=20 California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Idaho and as far east as = Florida, North=20 Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania in Colonial days. (The early Spanish = reported=20 killing them in Florida in the 1500=92s) The Dominguez-Escalante = expedition killed=20 about a dozen near what is now Vernal Utah in 1776. Coronado described = them on=20 his famous expedition well south into Chihuahua Mexico. Zebulon Pike=92s = expedition killed them in South Park at the head of the Arkansas River = in the=20 Rockies. Bison were killed in Virginia until after 1700. (The best map = of bison=20 distribution is in the November 1994 or 95 issue of National=20 Geographic)

=B7        =20 During the peak = years of the=20 hide trade, 1871-1873, The Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe RR shipped = 469,000=20 hides, in total, for those three years. Those are the = three years=20 of greatest slaughter. This is an average of 156,000 animals per year = from a=20 population of at least 35 million, a population which was reproducing at = a rate=20 of at least 5 million a year! =20 Killing one animal out of every 200 animals is not a very = efficient way=20 of exterminating, especially when they are reproducing all the time. It = also=20 means that the slaughter in the three biggest years was equal to=20 1/200th of the natural background death rate, and about =BD% = of the=20 population. (State Department of Fish and Game agencies try to keep the = annual=20 hunting harvest of deer down to 10% of the population to keep a wide = safety=20 factor to avoid reducing the population. This policy fails, all deer = populations=20 in all states are increasing beyond management goals.)

 

It=20 becomes obvious early on in this process to see that the slaughter of = the bison=20 for hides could not possibly be the factor that brought the animal to = the verge=20 of extinction. In fact, I believe it was cattle diseases brought in by = domestic=20 livestock. Think about some other facts: (These are not necessarily = connected=20 but each has the potential to have influence).

=B7        =20 The loss of earlier = range that=20 occurred from the 1500=92s to the middle 1800=92s might be postulated as = the result=20 of animals being infected as the herds became exposed to cattle on the = fringes=20 of their original range as settlement crept forward.

=B7        =20 Later, the travelers on = the Oregon=20 Trail averaged taking 16 domestic animals apiece as they began their = trek. With=20 a quarter million people going over the Oregon Trail, (through the heart = of=20 bison range) it means 4 million head of livestock accompanied them. = Losses were=20 horrendous. The carcasses remained to contaminate the bison. This was = about the=20 time that the germ theory began to penetrate the professional community, = but not=20 the general public. There was no such thing as vaccination for=20 animals.

=B7        =20 The most widespread = cattle disease=20 at the time was brucellosis, which tends to cause a spontaneous abortion = when=20 the fetus is about the size of a teacup! With millions of crows, magpies = and=20 ravens following the herds, no evidence would survive more than=20 minutes.

=B7        =20 Hide hunters were paid = by the=20 pound, so it was to their advantage to shoot the largest animals.=20 (males).

=B7        =20 The market for hides = was primarily=20 for the myriad of leather belts to drive machinery in the expanding = industrial=20 revolution, (male hides again, bigger hides yield longer, stronger=20 belts.)

=B7        =20 The selective removal = of males from=20 a population of animals with the polygamous pattern of mating behavior = of all=20 bovids, is to stimulate population growth. =20 This is because when there is selective removal of males, many of = the=20 consumers of the largest amount of critical winter forage are removed, = leaving=20 more and better food for cows and calves to get through the winter.  This pattern increases the = proportion of=20 successful pregnancies and calf survival. In addition, the percentage of = the=20 population that is made up of reproducing females becomes gradually=20 larger.

=B7        =20 Last, from an economic = point of=20 view: All hides were freighted to the railheads by horse drawn wagons. = Economics=20 dictate, and restrict, the distance beyond which such transport becomes=20 unprofitable. The price of the hides was fixed but the cost of getting = them to=20 the railroad increased with each day of travel. Only three railroads = penetrated=20 the plains at this time (two of these were small spurs in the Dakotas), = So the=20 bison could only be profitably shot within a distance where horse and = wagon=20 could carry the hides to the railroad and then return for another load = in a=20 short enough time to carry enough loads to make a profit in a season. I = would=20 estimate this would be an absolute maximum distance of 50 or 60 miles. = That=92s a=20 week out and a week back with a heavily loaded wagon. That distance from = the=20 railroads only covers a tiny fraction of the plains.  Try drawing a shaded area 60 = miles on=20 either side of the three railroads of the times and see how much of the = plains=20 could have been harvested of bison.

=B7        =20 Lastly, all residual = populations of=20 bison were found to be infected with brucellosis when tests became=20 available.

 

The=20 scenario of the commercial shooting as the causal factor for the = disappearance=20 of the bison simply cannot be made to make sense. In fact it is not even = remotely possible.

 

However,=20 if you stop the replacement through birth, in about seven years you run = out of=20 adults!  I=92m sure it was = not a=20 complete stop, brucellosis spreads most commonly by the cows nuzzling = the=20 afterbirth of the aborted fetus in curiosity. The spread would be = necessarily=20 slow. It took 25 years from the beginning of the slaughter. However, it = had=20 probably been going on for a century or more at the fringes of the=20 range.

 

Is=20 this presented in such a way that a person without the training in = ecology and=20 population dynamics can still understand clearly how preposterous the = =93accepted=20 wisdom=94 about the bison is? =20

I=92m=20 probably not qualified to judge that because I have spent a career since = 1953=20 working with the subject of wildlife population dynamics.

 

Tell me=20 if this piques your interest.

 

A couple=20 of references: Death on the = Prairies by=20 Paul I Wellman  = and

The Buffalo Book by David A = Dary (avon=20 Books 1974)The Time of The = Buffalo,=20 Tom McHugh. Alfred Knopf, 1972

 

 

Ben

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