From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #260 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, March 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 260 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:36:30 -0500 From: "sean" Subject: MtMan-List: Lube Not sure about authenticity, but a friend of mine who is a bee keepper, makes a great patch lube from bees wax and some toher stuff. I'll look at the tin and see if it says what is in it. Reduces the fouling by at least half, and it is SO much easier to clean afterwards... Sean ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:14:16 -0800 From: Pat Laughlin Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800 - --------------22BFED09CB88E3DA4AEEBC5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, I have taught American history for many years, done research for many more. I have participated in living history events and many personas over that period. I have always felt that a comfortable group of scholars that can interact and learn as well as enjoy themselves makes for a more cohesive group and one that can really get to the source and share information in a fun and entertaining way. I'm sure that mountainmen and women didn't spend all their time doing business at their gatherings. Sorry if we have offended you! john c. funk,jr wrote: > Dean, First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a > historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable > information. I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it > potentially offers.Having said that, it appears that the site has > turned into a "chat" line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide > remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to > those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows > waiting to pounce on anything resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era, > exchange of historical information. During the "early years" of this > site there were some vibrant exchanges of real historical data which > prompted us to head for the books and do some research to either add > to or (cordially) dispute various assertions. That atmosphere appears > to be suffering a rapid death.I am wondering if there any way a > monthly admonishment, for lack of a better term, could be > automatically posted on the site which reiterates the principal under > which the site was originally established?I know you've done a lot for > the site and I apologize for hanging this on you, but I for one have > about had it with some of this B.S. and I know of a couple of others > who have a wealth of potential valuable information to share who have > really been done in by the superfluous trivia that now exists on the > site. It would be a shame to loose what you originally established > and which broadened the knowledge of us all concerning the enchanting > era of the Fur Trade.Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.John Funk - --------------22BFED09CB88E3DA4AEEBC5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John,

I have taught American history for many years, done research for many more. I have participated in living history events and many personas over that period. I have always felt that a comfortable group of scholars that can interact and learn as well as enjoy themselves makes for a more cohesive group and one that can really get to the source and share information in a fun and entertaining way. I'm sure that mountainmen and women didn't spend all their time doing business at their gatherings.

Sorry if we have offended you!

john c. funk,jr wrote:

Dean, First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable information. I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it potentially offers.Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era, exchange of historical information. During the "early years" of this site there were some vibrant exchanges of real historical data which prompted us to head for the books and do some research to either add to or (cordially) dispute various assertions. That atmosphere appears to be suffering a rapid death.I am wondering if there any way a monthly admonishment, for lack of a better term, could be automatically posted on the site which reiterates the principal under which the site was originally established?I know you've done a lot for the site and I apologize for hanging this on you, but I for one have about had it with some of this B.S. and I know of a couple of others who have a wealth of potential valuable information to share who have really been done in by the superfluous trivia that now exists on the site. It would be a shame to loose what you originally established and which broadened the knowledge of us all concerning the enchanting era of the Fur Trade.Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.John Funk

- --------------22BFED09CB88E3DA4AEEBC5B-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:58:18 -0600 From: "Ron and Gayle Harris" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: LUBE I use larry"s, lube and think it works really well. Dennis, Just shut upand don't even go there.) ron - -----Original Message----- From: larry pendleton To: mountain lists Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: MtMan-List: LUBE >Hawk, > Good to hear from you. The piece on the patch lube was very interesting. > I have used them all. Some fairly successfully, but most not. I could >never figure out why you would want to use camphor or wintergreen in a >patch lube that you would use when hunting. I to make and sell a patch >lube. I sell it locally, although I have advertised it in a magazine. I >became quite discouraged by the outrageous claims made by the large >companies. Also there is no way a guy working out of his house can compete >with the ad budgets of those guys. The claims that are made by national >brand lube companies are so outlandish it is unreal, and yet the vast >majority of black powder shooters buy it hook line and sinker. > The other fellow Tim Austin was refering to is Gene High. Gene and I are >in the same area, and are friendly competitors. >Pendleton > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:46:23 EST From: TetonTod@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800 Well said John! That gets my vote. Todd Glover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:57:05 -0800 From: "landis" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE70B8.B71EE060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - -----Original Message----- From: landis To: mountain men > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 7:37 PM Subject: Fw:=20 - -----Original Message----- From: landis To: mountain men > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 6:04 PM How Do! I just wanted to say thank you to fellow mlml people who attended the = show on March 13 and 14.I had a very good time for my first show.All the = people there were great and the fry bread was excellent! Thanks to my brother for getting = me involved in exploring a part of my long lost but not forgotten history, plus he = bought me a trade knife for my b-day!Thanks again to all. = Adam - ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE70B8.B71EE060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BE70B8.B71EE060-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:02:50 -0800 From: Butch Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote: > > No What did the Indian women do to white men Are you *sure* you want to know? This knowledge may cause you to try to walk with your legs crossed for some time. Butch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:15:36 GMT From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women Uhh, you're not the Barbara originally from Tejas, who up and deserted us T.A.B.-ers a few years back for the north country, are ya? Gale Harris (she and Ron post here occasionally) is now the head of the North Chapter of the Hanta Youin, the local ladies buckskinner group may well be worth contacting for some ideas. Some of the things they've done in way of retribution to menfolk crashin' their doins is pretty intimidating. On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:02:05 -0800, you wrote: >Pat, >The one in 1996 was held on Mt. Rainier in Washington. Where are you >located? > >As for men sneaking in, I heard that a flatlander out hiking happened to >stumble upon the camp. It was a hot July day, and the gals was all just >traipsing about in chemises, some of them wet from swimming. Margaret >said he nearly had a heart attack! Don't think sentries would be >necessary, we'd just scare 'em to death! I told Margaret we ought to >let in any man who'se willing to cross-dress female, and abide by our >Mountain Women Rules. (We're working on those rules. Think something >like full-body shaving with a straight razor might be in order.) > >On another note, the lube discussion is very interesting. I'd love to >know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has. Thank you much for >posting all the information about the various brands out there, Hawk. >I'm a bit confused, though. Was that YOUR speech, or did you raid that >from somewhere? Anyway, bottom line, are you recommending I use my >"Natural Ice Mentholated Lipbalm (SPF 14)" for patch lube, or are you >telling me that I'm gonna get asphalt build up in my rifle if I do? > >AND, does anyone have a source of historic documentation as to the >contents of patch lube used in the early 19th century? I'm not against >making my own, if that's a better solution. God knows I've got plenty >of chapstick! If there's a recipe to be had, someone please share it. > >Yer Most Disobedient Servant, >-Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena, and Miss Letitia Work > > Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including = "BS". 1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:20:53 GMT From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: prices of goods in st.louis around 1800 Muffin takes a can of worms in hand, and promptly opens them.... Traphand, I don't have a real good reply for you. I _think_ Ft. Clark is a rename/nickname of Kaskaskia due to Clark's capturing of the town. I don't know where I read this, just sticks in my mind, and only post this because I saw no other response to your request. I do not claim to be right. May I suggest you also post your request for more info on the moderated newsgroup soc.history.war.us-revolution on Usenet? A few of the folks who follow that group seem to be very knowlegable in their comments and are willing to cite references for their statements/conclusions. =20 I've only lurked on the group for 2-3 weeks. But this may well be a very good source of info, especially for those more interested in the Rev War/Longhunter era. The charter of the group (I'm quoting from memory-pull the charter for exact phrasing) states they will consider for discussion topics/issues from the early 1700s through the 1860's so long as part of/main thrust has bearing on the Revolutionary period. =20 (There is also a newsgroup called soc.history.war.us-civilwar which I have been lurking for references to the later part of the fur trade, but so far nothing of interest.) Best wishes. On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:09:57 EST, you wrote: >doing a paper on what it was like in st.louis around the early 1800. I'm= still >looking=20 >for account books from general stores,blacksmiths,bill of lading from >keelboats and est,I have some but others also would be helpful.timewise = would >be from 1785to 1820.anyone every hear of a town in missouri called New = Diggers >in 1813.Also anyone every hear of fort clark in kaskaskia ill.year would= be >1779.I got what is on the amm list already. > > > thank you > rick petzoldt > >traphand@aol.com > Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including = "BS". 1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:56:38 EST From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800 John C. Funk, Jr. You are a bold man, my friend. While I totally agree with your comments, I don't have the heart to receive the flaming you will get. You on the other hand, have two hearts. Good thing! Jim Hardee, AMM#1676 P.O. Box 1228 Quincy, CA 95971 (530)283-4566 (H) (530)283-3330 (W) (530)283-5171 FAX Casapy123@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:57:33 -0800 From: tigrbo1 Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Tin ware Greetings TrapRJoe, The only way I've seen to keep your tin ware from rusting is to have your cups, boilers, canteen and such made of tin lined copper, like I did. Best regards, Terry TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote: > This list has told us how to take care of our castiron so it won't rust > while we're out, but how about Tin ware. How do you keep it from becoming a > heap of rust? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:54:33 EST From: KINJANO@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women In a message dated 99-03-17 23:03:13 EST, you write: << I'd love to know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has. >> Barb......... you must have me confused with someone else......... to date i have only posted about the dugout cabin/shelter and our women's rendezvous over here in n.w. ohio........... the lube is someonelse's discussion........ kinjano (a.k.a. scary mary) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 08:51:48 -0700 From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl) Subject: MtMan-List: Discussions Gentlemen and Ladies, John's point was not made to offend anyone, period. It becomes rather monotonous to see one line statements about Texas, or any other State. A joke or two pertaining to history is funny now and then a quip or two is great, but receiving 25 messages that are just chats get old. Save it for the campfire or send it personal. This has developed into a close knit group because of subject matter. Ask questions, provide answers, (thought out one's) Share club news, point out living history events, advertize quality historical items you may have or know where to find, debate questionable historical events or items, but please know when enough chit chat is enough. I believe if you got something important to say, say it, otherwise just listen. Thank you Joe Brandl Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 Write for custom tanning prices We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and hair on robes Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:49:03 -0600 From: "Brian McNutt" Subject: MtMan-List: What was this book????? As a wide eyed young un, I read a book, possibly by an European, about two Trappers. One of the trappers got married at the book's end, and the writer put himself in the book; he called himself "Two Shoots." I checked my local library, but it wasn't there. Any help would be appreciated! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:25:50 PST From: "Matthew Hawley" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur I don't know about the hat company. but the rabbit fur in moccasins i do. With the on set of winter the indians started making winter clothes so in order to keep warm they wanted fur. now rabbot fur is warm thick and very soft so they would make rabbit lined mocs or blankets or mitts to keep warm. hope this answears your ? ? White eagle >From: "Ron Chamberlain" >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: "Mt Man list" >Subject: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:35:52 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com Wed Mar 17 18:51:14 1999 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1)id 10NSss-0004gR-00for hist_text-goout@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:50:10 -0700 >Received: from [204.228.203.4] (helo=mail.ida.net)by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1)id 10NSsp-0004gM-00for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:50:07 -0700 >Received: (qmail 27025 invoked from network); 18 Mar 1999 02:50:06 - -0000 >Received: from tc-sa2-45.ida.net (HELO default) (208.141.176.102)by mail.ida.net with SMTP; 18 Mar 1999 02:50:06 -0000 >Message-ID: <000c01be70e8$0b96ac20$66b08dd0@default> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk > >Hello, > >Can anybody document the Canadian Cap during the Rcky Mt fur trade, >particularily late 1830's? >Was also wondering about use of rabbit fur for moccasin liners (socks). > >Thanks, >YMOS >Lonewolf > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:31:52 -0600 From: "Austin, Tim" Subject: MtMan-List: rabbit fur Good information on the rabbit fur for the moccasins. What is the source? I know several of the mountain men used buffalo fur to make moccasins, and a trip of Indians in the west that made blankets of rabbit hides with fur still on. Thank you. Tim Austin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 12:42:33 -0800 From: Butch Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur Austin, Tim wrote: > > Good information on the rabbit fur for the moccasins. What is the source? > I know several of the mountain men used buffalo fur to make moccasins, and a > trip of Indians in the west that made blankets of rabbit hides with fur > still on. > > Thank you. > > Tim Austin Rabbit skin blankets are very warm, but I'd recommend you put the blanket inside an envelope of cloth, etc. Rabbit skin with the fur on sheds something awful. Good way to wake up with a big old mouthful of rabbit fur. These were used as baby blankets,too, IIRC. Butch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:42:15 -0800 From: RANDAL J BUBLITZ Subject: Re: MtMan-List: What was this book????? Brian, I believe that the book that you are looking for is entitled 'The Rifleman' by John Brick. The copy which I have is copyright 1953, By Doubleday & Co. , Inc., Garden City, NY . It was given to me by a good friend. It's a good read. Hardtack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:51:34 -0500 From: "sean" Subject: MtMan-List: Picture page I have added a "List Only" page to my Ronnyvous site.... Anyone not having access to a web page and wanting to forward me pictures to post in it for others to view, send them to me and I will put them on the site. Be sure to send them in JPG format.... this is the smallest graphic... Be sure to send a caption with it or what ever you want said ith it... The address is: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/HistList.htm (nothing there yet.) Addison Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:14:52 -0600 From: John Dearing Subject: MtMan-List: Re: > > >Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line = > >for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted = > >drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who originally = > >subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything = > >resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era, exchange of historical = > >information. Instead of whining about the content of the messages, start a conversation about a historical subject. Works for me. J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:26:21 EST From: GHickman@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800 << it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything resembling a pertinent, Fur Trade Era, exchange of historical information. >> Amen...I too am becoming very discouraged. Ghosting Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:21:13 -0700 From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur Some natives may have used rabbit for linings, but I find it hard to believe that given almost any other type of fur or hide, that rabbit would of been used much. Wild rabbit skin are paper thin, the fur mats easily, thus loses insulation quality, take a lot of rabbits for a blanket. Exception were the southwestern tribes that wove blankets with rabbit skins. Joe Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 Write for custom tanning prices We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and hair on robes Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:52:01 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions Thank you! I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree. Medicine Bear Joe Brandl wrote: > Gentlemen and Ladies, > John's point was not made to offend anyone, period. It becomes rather > monotonous to see one line statements about Texas, or any other State. A > joke or two pertaining to history is funny now and then a quip or two is > great, but receiving 25 messages that are just chats get old. Save it for > the campfire or send it personal. This has developed into a close knit > group because of subject matter. Ask questions, provide answers, (thought > out one's) Share club news, point out living history events, advertize > quality historical items you may have or know where to find, debate > questionable historical events or items, but please know when enough chit > chat is enough. I believe if you got something important to say, say it, > otherwise just listen. > Thank you > Joe Brandl > > Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery > Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 > Write for custom tanning prices > We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and > hair on robes > Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets > check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:06:56 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions - -----Original Message----- From: Frank To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions >Thank you! >I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ = agree. > >Medicine Bear > >Joe Brandl wrote: > This has developed into a close knit >> group because of subject matter.=20 What Joe said is essentially correct. However, I think that much of the = close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject = matter. And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends. = I don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner = described. I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked = by this, but when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke = the "delete" command and forget it.=20 Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion. Lanney Ratcliff >> >> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery >> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 >> Write for custom tanning prices >> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather = and >> hair on robes >> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, = baskets >> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:23:56 -0600 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions Lanney I agree. No doubt I am more guilty than most. If I have offended anyone I appologize. I am afraid it is just my nature to B.S. A very dear friend of ours has the philosophy that, 'You ain't gonna get out of this life alive so you might as well have some fun while your'e here." I figure if we can have some fun and learn as much about history as is possible on this list, then we are accomplishing some thing on both points. I will try to keep a lid on the B.S. as much as I can in an effort to keep from bothering the folks who don't believe that you can do both. There are postings on the list everyday that I am not interested in. Like you I know what the delete button is for. Pendleton - ---------- > From: Ratcliff > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:06 PM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions > > > >Thank you! > >I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree. > > > >Medicine Bear > > > >Joe Brandl wrote: > > This has developed into a close knit > >> group because of subject matter. > > What Joe said is essentially correct. However, I think that much of the close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject matter. And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends. I don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner described. I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked by this, but when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke the "delete" command and forget it. > Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion. > Lanney Ratcliff > >> > >> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery > >> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 > >> Write for custom tanning prices > >> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and > >> hair on robes > >> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets > >> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:48:08 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions Hey all... I may catch hell for this post down the road, well, so be it....Those what know me, know I say what I think.. I really love this list, along with my Brothers & Friends that are participants. Humor has a large part of our lives, in each day and especially at the times on the trail that it really counts... Like when a canoe swamps with lotsa $$$$ worth a gear in it, or when you get to the end of a trail and discover that the only way down, asides from backtracking 10 miles is a 50' hell of a first step, and you toss your partner a rope and says.."You First".. Gentlemen, I don't know about y'all,( especially those that would prefer a technically dry, humorless, impersonal list) but I prefer this to be like a large campfire.... With folks from different locals, skill levels, and walks of life's paths to get together and discuss and , God forbid, joke among themselves.. Mebby share some and learn some things... Hell, I do each day I turn this damn thing on.... But , if ya can't have some fun doing it, why bother??...A delete button is an easy thing to master...(ask privately, I'll teach you how to do it) This list is a great asset to many people, AMM and not, and if we want to converse occasionally or trade jabs... Why grouse?? Hell, my Dad always told me"Keep your damn mouth shut boy, and listen between the words, ya may learn something." 'Nuff said. Respectfully Dennis Miles AMM #1622 Hiveranno "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:50:28 -0600 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: MtMan-List: HORNS Ok guys a serious question. Where can I get really high quality cow horns? I am talking about scrimshaw quality with good turns that will make Golden Age period powder horns. Pendleton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:55:13 -0500 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: HORNS Larry.. The Log Cabin shop sometimes has some good 'ens.. It is in Lodi, Ohio D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: larry pendleton To: mountain lists Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 10:49 PM Subject: MtMan-List: HORNS >Ok guys a serious question. Where can I get really high quality cow horns? > I am talking about scrimshaw quality with good turns that will make Golden >Age period powder horns. >Pendleton > > ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #260 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. 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