From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #413 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, November 24 1999 Volume 01 : Number 413 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents -       Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents -       Re: MtMan-List: tipi poles -       RE: MtMan-List: Trappers -       Re: MtMan-List: Trappers -       Re: MtMan-List: Trappers -       MtMan-List: Humurous story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:56:44 EST From: JSeminerio@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents There are a couple of books of canvas craft "the Marlinspike sailor" is one that go into hand sewing canvas Good Luck - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:41:41 -0500 From: Anne MacDonnald Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wall Tents Try this website. While the owner is in the SCA, she has many very good things on this site. The links are really good as well. It does not matter what period you are doing, the method of sewing a tent/pavilion is the same. http://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/tent.html I can tell you from experience...call Panther. It will be cheaper in the long run and your spouse will thank you for it. [grins] But if you choose to ignore sage advice.... [vbg] 1. buy an industrial sewing machine. It will take the flat felled seams that you need to make. 2. Behr's waterseal is made for fabric [thompson's is not]. do not paint it on... but roll up the tent and then the fabric wick up the stuff. I used 5 gallons for a 16x16 pavilion. Later paint the seams both sides, again. 2. Check out your local awning maker. They can get you the stuff a lot cheaper than a fabric store. They may also have access to sunforger. 3. when you have finally figured out what a pain in the behind it is to sew... been there, and almost killed him... call panther order the wall tent in a 10 ounce, sunforger, fire retardent and enjoy. Anne Lee Newbill wrote: > Hallo the camp. > > I'm tinkering with the idea of making my own wall tent. Any books out > there that might help? > > Anybody tried this? > > Regards > > Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho > Clerk of the Hog Heaven Muzzleloaders > lnewbill@uidaho.edu : http://www.geocities.com/~lnewbill > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:18:15 -0600 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tipi poles spruce and tamarak (or larch) could make good poles. Jim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:23:52 -0700 From: "Sickler, Louis L" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Trappers I have to agree with Hardtack, Joe was the first to come to mind. You don't hear or read as much about him as the more 'famous' trappers, but he did SHINE right up there with the best. I believe he was the person that tried to dissuade the Donner party from leaving Ft Bridger. Tried to convince them that they had not enough time to cross the Sierras before snowfall. We all know the rest. If anyone hasn't read "Westering Man, the Story of Joseph Reddeford Walker" by Bil Gilbert, I highly recommend it. Lou Sickler Colorado Territory P.S. I know we were supposed to send these to Laura off-list, just couldn't help myself. What a damned incorrigible bunch we are! > -----Original Message----- > From: randybublitz@juno.com [SMTP:randybublitz@juno.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 12:51 PM > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers > > Hi Laura, My vote goes for Joseph Walker. He was an explorer > extrordinaire, a leader of men, and active in the West for a long time. > I'm impressed with his long career on the frontier and his ability to > succeed in nearly endeavor he undertook. You should check me on this, > but I believe I read somewhere that no man was ever killed while under > the leadership of Joseph Walker. Hardtack > > Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give > up your Rights > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:12:00 EST From: Huss931@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers Good luck on your project. I just finished writing a book on Robert Campbell-- a friend of the major mountain men and trader-trapper himself. So... here's my suggestions: Jed Smith Jim Bridger (Old Gabe) William Sublette Robert Campbell Louis Vasaquez The Bents Thomas Fitzpatrick (Iron Hand) Jim Beckwourth Joe Walker Liver-Eating Smith (Crow Killer) Hope these help. LeRoy Hafen's books are great for an overview. Dr. Stephen F. Huss (Huss931@aol.com) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 22 Nov 99 21:51:42 -0700 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers Reply to: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers John Colter DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants randybublitz wrote: >Hi Laura, My vote goes for Joseph Walker. He was an explorer >extrordinaire, a leader of men, and active in the West for a long time. = >I'm impressed with his long career on the frontier and his ability to >succeed in nearly endeavor he undertook. You should check me on this, >but I believe I read somewhere that no man was ever killed while under >the leadership of Joseph Walker. Hardtack > >Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give >up your Rights > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Received: from lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7] by mail.market1.com with = ESMTP > (SMTPD32-5.01) id AD26FBF0136; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:51:02 -0600 > Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) > id 11pcvS-0000mR-00 > for hist_text-goout@lists.xmission.com; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:45:30 -0700 > Received: from [205.231.101.196] (helo=3Dm8.boston.juno.com) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) > id 11pcvP-0000lz-00 > for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:45:27 -0700 > Received: (from randybublitz@juno.com) > by m8.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ERYMKGXE; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:45:= 14 EST > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:51:22 -0800 > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trappers > Message-ID: <19991121.115123.-4525.0.randybublitz@juno.com> > X-Mailer: Juno 3.0.13 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,8 > X-Juno-Att: 0 > X-Juno-RefParts: 0 > From: randybublitz@juno.com > Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > X-RCPT-TO: > X-UIDL: 3831 > Status: U > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:05:15 EST From: HawkenHunter@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Humurous story Hi all I just did this and figured that I would share it with you so you old timers can have a good laugh and all the newbies wont make the same mistake. Today I went and decided that I would try to make a flint and steel fire starting kit. I went and got me a old file and started heating it with a torch so that I could bend it into shape. Well, my first mistake was that I got it to were I wanted it and cooled it in some water. I was then going to give it a good oil bath to temper it when I dropped it on the floor. All those articles are right when they talk about tempering that file shattered just like glass. So I got another piece of steel and got it shaped like I wanted it and heated it up and then put it in the water. This time I made sure to keep a really good hold on it. Well, I went to set up my oil bath and had a quart of oil that was half full so I just cut the top off of it and proceeded to heat up the metal. All the while I was thinking how smart I was for my miniature oil bath. Well, the metal got to were it needed to be so I dropped it into the oil bath. Well, about the time that it hit the oil I had a revaluation. When you drop really really hot metal into a plastic container THEY MELT. Well, I ran to grab my drip pan but it was to late I had a shop full of smoke from the burning plastic and a floor covered in oil. Well, I hope this brings a smile to at least some of you. HawkenHunter@aol.com (Hawk) If you learn from your mistakes I should be smarter than Einstein. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #413 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.