From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #515 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, April 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 515 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: natural dyes for buckskin -       MtMan-List: Canada-Historical Map -       MtMan-List: barrel accuracy -       Re: MtMan-List: Barrel Accuracy -       MtMan-List: Barrels...Hawk -       Re: MtMan-List: Barrels...Hawk -       Re: MtMan-List: Barrel Accuracy -       MtMan-List: The River Walk NEEDS Your Help -       Re: MtMan-List:(offline)web page junk??? -       MtMan-List: For sale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 10:25:11 EDT From: "Gary McLeod" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: natural dyes for buckskin >From: Joe Brandl >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: natural dyes for buckskin >Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:13:55 -0600 > >I use fullers dirt, it is the stuff used in films to discolor or age >cloth or leather, I also use leather dyes procured from a leather >tannery, Very expensive but only use a little bit. What cracks >leather is the drying out of the oils used in tanning. We have >renewed leather by spraying it with a special oil we use in our >tannery. It works great on chaps for example. you do not want to seal >leather, as it has to breathe. >Joe >Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/ >Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture >307-455-2440 >New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!! > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 09:43:20 -0500 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: MtMan-List: Canada-Historical Map Found this on a genealogical site, thought you might be interested. > > Canadian Geographic has an interesting map at this site- > > http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/mapping/default.asp?section=mappingcanada > > By clicking on the date it will show you the changing boundaries from > 1700 > to the present time. There is also text outlining the history of each > period. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:58:37 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: barrel accuracy Having lived almost seven years near Friendship, Indiana, I learned a lot from some of the genuine 'old timers' in the muzzle loading game. And from them, I learned that one of the most important factors in getting an accurate barrel was to control harmonic resonance. Fancy words for vibrations. All barrels vibrate. The trick is have your projectile leave the barrel at the same point in its vibration each time so that your bullet [round ball, thank you] impacts the target at the same spot each shot. The old, soft iron, barrels absorbed a lot of the harmonic resonance just because of the softness of the material. Even then there was some vibration that needed to be controlled,especially on the very long barrels of Ky/Penn eastern rifles. The need for control led to the development of swamped barrels. That contouring of the barrels was not just to make them pretty. It was by design to make even long, slim and lightweight barrels accurate. And them old timers [pre-1800] were some pretty smart fellers and downright masterful gunsmiths. It worked. Today's modern steel barrels do not absorb harmonic resonance as well as the soft iron. This increases the need for other methods to achieve accuracy. Heavy barrels is one way. Swamping is another and it works. Harmonic resonance is probably not as much a problem on heavy barrels like Jaegers and Hawkens but it is on the Kentucky styles. Frank "Bearclaw" Fusco, Mountain Home, Arkansas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Barrel Accuracy Hawk, were these barrels all octagonal? all flintlock? my thanks also for sharing the excellent experiences from your ML journals. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 23:32:54 -0500 From: Mike Rock Subject: MtMan-List: Barrels...Hawk Thanks Hawk, BIll told me 'someone' had done the tests. I didn't remember the name, and now am glad that it was you. Thank you for the memory and the information. When I was learning a lot from the 'old timers', Bill was free with advice and help, even if a bit crusty at times. I miss him. Mike - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:12:36 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Barrels...Hawk mike--- yes we will all who knew bill miss him and his salty toung---and unsolicited advice on any subject and if bill is watching us now and you will remember this---"No Bill the reds havent taken over the world and friendship yet" ---guess bills cutting barrels for the big maker now and telling him why it aint goin to work--- you should appreciate that one mike--- YMHOSANT =+= "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:06:42 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Barrel Accuracy JON MARINETTI all barrels were octogon 1" no tapor and has an underhammer ignition---so it would be almost applicable to a flint gun but a cap was used--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 2000 06:49:46 -0700 From: Buck Conner Subject: MtMan-List: The River Walk NEEDS Your Help Hey Camp, Here's something of interest, whether you do F&I War or Civil War, check this out. : The River Walk NEEDS Your Help!! Later Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" Aux Aliments de Pays! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:22:24 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List:(offline)web page junk??? buck updating and upgrading my web page---would like to add a link to your page on mine---if you would like a link what do you want it to say if you want one---am adding a bunch of pictures of my calls and stuff with buttons to view and adding a page for just links and other BP related stuff---let me know if you want to be included "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. (Home of "Old Grizz" products) (C) Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce On 6 Apr 2000 06:49:46 -0700 Buck Conner writes: > Hey Camp, > > Here's something of interest, whether you do F&I War or Civil War, > check this out. > > : The > River Walk NEEDS Your Help!! > > > Later > Buck Conner > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ http://pages.about.com/buckconner ~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "meat's not meat until it's in the pan" > Aux Aliments de Pays! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account > http://www.uswestmail.net > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 18:48:00 -0500 From: jc60714@navix.net Subject: MtMan-List: For sale Washtahay- out of sheer boredom, its time for one of my infamous on-line rummage sales. Books, gun parts, moulds, dies, etc. Some trade silver, leather, etc. List will go out tonight, for a copy please reply to me at . Thanks! LongWalker c. du B. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #515 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.