From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #575 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, June 15 2000 Volume 01 : Number 575 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Digest #574-Re:hats -       MtMan-List: Old Hat -       MtMan-List: re: Skunked -       MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Artifact, etc. -       MtMan-List: wagons -       Re: MtMan-List: wagons & RDV -       Re: MtMan-List: wagons -       MtMan-List: Lee Valley Tools has new product line (OT) -       Re: MtMan-List: Hafen's Mountain Men series ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:07:15 -0700 (PDT) From: mitch post Subject: MtMan-List: Digest #574-Re:hats Warning-Shameless advertisment!! In response to questions on rebuilding/refurbishing old hats-I rebuild hats,sell new hats-felt and palm-leaf,& sell "recylced" hats. Contact me off-list if interested. I will attempt to rebuild hats most other shops turn away. Thanks in advance,Mitch Post Hiparoo Hats hiparoo@yahoo.com ===== "RIDE THE HIGH TRAIL-NEVER TUCK YOUR TAIL" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:46:57 -0500 From: Glenn Darilek Subject: MtMan-List: Old Hat troberts@gdi.net wrote: >Anyone have suggestions on reshaping a tired old hat which >has sagged to funnel shape, or should I just break down and >replace it? No need to reshape it. That is an authentic and realistic shape. Alfred Jacob Miller drew hats exactly like that. Some portraits had felt hats that were their "new shape", but most of the drawings of felt hats on mountaineers in camp, on the trail, or hunting had the "hillbilly" shape. That is the way they naturally get after getting wet several times when you have no blocks or irons to reblock them. Glenn Darilek Iron Burner - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:03:19 EDT From: TheTain@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: re: Skunked Not to sure why you would go to all that trouble. I always kept about a 1/2 dozen quart size cans of tomato juice handy. Works wonders! All you have to do is to work the tomato juice into the fur then wash it out. Worked great every time my mixed breed came back all happy with herself... Cheers, Joe Kerley - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:18:14 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: Lewis & Clark Artifact, etc. Detroit Free Press, Mon. 06-12-00, pp.1C,2C. Articles by Patricia Chargot for "Yak's Corner". The World of Lewis & Clark at The Gerald R. Ford Museum in Grand Rapids. display thru Oct.29. a wooden bowl carved into the shape of a beaver that once held whale oil. hasn't been used since 1806 - still leaches whale oil. article on Peyton C. "Bud" Clark, 55, who is the great-great-great-grandson of William Clark. family left St.Louis in the late [19]50's. now lives in Dearborn, Mich. accompanying b&w photo of him in brain-tanned shirt with fringe using a sextant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:17:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Pickert Subject: MtMan-List: wagons anyone out here know if the had wagons at any of the rondevous? ===== Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:41:22 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: wagons & RDV The following information can be found in Rocky Mountain Rendezvous by = Fred Gowans. Dr Frederick A. Wislizenus was a German physician who accompanied the = 1839 caravan sent to the mountains by Pierre Chouteau. Part of his = journal follows: "Our caravan was small. It consisted of only twenty-seven persons. = Nine of them were in the service of the Fur Company of St Louis = (Chouteau, Pratte, & Co), and were to bring the merchandise to the = yearly rendezvous on the Green River. Their leader was Mr Harris, a = mountaineer without special education, but with five sound sences (sic), = that he well know how to use. All the rest joined the expedition as = individuals. Among them were three missionaries, two of them = accompanied by their wives, whom a christian zeal for converting the = heathen urged to the Columbia...The majority of the party were = Americans; the rest consisted of French Canadians, a few Germans, and a = Dane. The Fur Company transported its goods on two-wheeled carts, of = whic there were four, each drawn by two mules, and loaded with 800 to = 900 pounds. The rest put their p[acks on mules or horses, of which = there were fifty to sixty in the caravan." Osborne Russell said the following about the 1838 rendezvous at the = forks of the Wind River: "....There we found Mr Dripps from St Louis with 20 horse carts loaded = with Supplies.... In 1837 the supply train under the direction of Thomas Fitzpatrick had = 30 wagons and two carts. This is the rendezvous where Bridger got his = suit of armor. Of the 1836 rendezvous Narcissa Whitman wrote the following in her = journal: The Fur Com. is large this year. We are really a moving village--nearly = four hundred animals with ours, mostly mules and seventy men. The Fur = Com. has seven wagons and one cart, drawn by six mules each, heavily = loaded; the cart drawn by tow mules carries a lame man (Milton Sublette) = one of the proprieters of teh Com. We have two waggons in our = company........" In 1835 Marcus Whitman wrote: "August 1st left the fort (Ft William) for rendezous with pack animals = only, the company having left their wagon at the fort A quick review of Gowan's book reveals only mentions of pack animals at = earlier rendezvous. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:21:33 EDT From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: wagons The first wagons were taken to rendezvous in 1830 by "william Sublette of the Smith, Jackson and Sublette Fur Company. Sublette took ten wagons, sturdily built to withstand Indain attack and capable of carrying heavy merchandise. The wagons were purchased from Joseph Murphy, a well known St. Louis wagon maker. In addition to the ten wagons which were pulled by a ten mule team and two Dearborn wagons, pulled by one mule each, Sublette also took along twelve head of cattle and one milch cow. these were to provide food for his 80 men until they reached buffalo country. ("Bill Sublette, Mountain Man" by John E. Sunder. University of Oklahoma Press, Norman, 1959. pp. 84-85.) Jim Hardee - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1980 10:59:31 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: MtMan-List: Lee Valley Tools has new product line (OT) Since many list members are fans of Ottawa-based Lee Valley Tools, I thought I'd update you folks on what president Leonard Lee has been up to lately. I just heard him on CBC Radio talking about his new company, Canica (sp?), which will soon be selling scalpels and retractors. A surgeon & wood carver, Dr. Michael Bell, discovered that the Veritas Wood Carver's Tool was not only the world's best carving tool, but also the world's best scalpel. But he phoned Mr. Lee to complain about the way the tip oxidized after repeated autoclaving. It was the beginning of a beautiful relationship--Lee & Bell discovered that hand surgical tools were just as amenable to improvement as traditional wood-carving tools, and the new product line will be available through (what else?) mail-order later this year. Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:47:21 EDT From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hafen's Mountain Men series Many of you are probably aware of Leroy Hafen's ten volume series "The Mountain Men and the Fur Trade of the Far West." Finding a complete set is not easy and when you do the price is pretty steep. Trying to collect the series one volume at a time is more affordable except that vol. one and vol. ten are virtually imposible to find. For anyone interested, Arthur Clark, the original publisher, is going to reprint Vol. one soon. It will sell for $55 but only 500 will be printed. It will be identical to the original with the addition of a new introduction by Janet LeCompte and William Swaggerty. This volume contains 20 biographies of trappers including Clyman, Meek, Head, Chardon, Larpenteur and others. There is also a 150+ page condensed history of the fur trade that may well be the best short version ever written. If anyone is interested, contact me off line and I'll give you the info. Jim Hardee P.O. Box 1228 Quincy, CA 95971 (530)283-4566 (H) (530)283-3330 (W) (530)283-5171 FAX Casapy123@aol.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #575 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.