From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #706 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, January 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 706 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Thanks Teton!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: Minimum to get started -       Re: MtMan-List: CBC TV--Fur trade episode -       Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Hunt/Antelopes -       Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Hunt/Antelopes -       Re: MtMan-List: leather braiding -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Book -       MtMan-List: unsubscribe -       Re: MtMan-List: Thanks Teton!!! -       MtMan-List: Alafia Rendezvous -       Re: MtMan-List: Spurs? -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: leather braiding -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       MtMan-List: : Re: MtMan-Book -       MtMan-List: : Re: MtMan-Book -       MtMan-List: List manager/owner? -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots -       MtMan-List: Footwear for trapping -       Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:00:54 -0700 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Thanks Teton!!! Don't mention it. I too have been impressed with Johnston research for his novels. Can't say I quite use them as documentaion but they have provided a whale of a lot of entertainment at home and while cruising at 28,000 feet on my way to Korea. Glad you and the rifle are getting along...remember...."Aim Small, Miss Small." "Teton" Todd D. Glover - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:49:22 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots > or - in subtitles - Yup. That's the way my stick floats, too. > Dick Richard, My compliments to you sir. I shall remain... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:56:16 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots One only spiraled to the top is the Indian way > and works best. If you want to try it and are puzzled - write me. > Richard James Richard, I will have to puzzle on this a moment. Intriguing technique. If I come up empty I'll drop you a line to bail me out. I have some sheep hides that I fully intended to make into mocs similar to how you described yours but never got to them. I still may! Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:10:05 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Minimum to get started > Now I do!!! C.Kent, Good and it seems you have not got your back up because I was somewhat abrupt with you. Good. It seemed by the comment of yours that I responded to, you were buying into the erroneous ideas that some have about how this whole thing works. I'm glad I misread your meaning. > I am really interested in the Rocky Mt.. Fur Trade Era ( though living in the > southeast...I am learning that many folks around here do the Eastern > Longhunter personas. I think that either would be welcome at most events > around here? Some other listmembers may want to comment on that.) I think you missed the essence of my query. Do you want to attend a club shoot, a shoot/rendezvous, a juried event, as a guest of an AMM member or some other "members only" group? Whether it be a RMFT event or an "Eastern pre-Rendezvous era event, each type of gathering will have different standards that you would want to be aware of. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:06:07 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: CBC TV--Fur trade episode In a message dated 1/5/01 6:56:48 PM, agottfre@telusplanet.net writes: << we did informal consulting, rented them some props (the cassette on the tumbling dogsled is Jeff's), and it's Jeff's sextant (and hands!) >> Well Angela....you little movie star! (kinda) I'm headed up to Edmonton tomorrow night and hopefully will get there in time to watch the show.... You need an agent?.... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:20:05 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Hunt/Antelopes In a message dated 1/5/01 10:18:45 AM, Wfoster@cw2.com writes: << Where was Hunt at when he saw the antelope? Walt >> Well lemme see...... Hunt is still on the Missouri, and just a bit up stream from Manual Lisa, and will meet up with Gray Eyes, of the Arickara village in a page or two. The party is about to leave the river and head NW to keep from being rubed out by the Blackfeet....so I'm thinkin South Dakota... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:23:26 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Wilson Price Hunt/Antelopes In a message dated 1/5/01 10:18:45 AM, Wfoster@cw2.com writes: << How is your weather over there? Super warm here. >> It's been a good winter so far on this side.... not much rain, and rare to get below freezing. I have a couple trips over your way next month and will track you boys down... Ymos, Magpie Fort Vancouver on the Lewis and Clark trail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:29:05 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather braiding In a message dated 1/5/01 7:08:20 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes: << You'all just plum give me shivers up my spine when you talk like that. I'll be await'in. Capt. Lahti' >> Oh Gawd...... Don't let em sweet talk ya ... Victoria! ... To put an end to this, I think the question was what does "say not" mean.... Well, Capt, it's kinda like "aye" to the Canucks.... ....but mostly means, "don't ya think?" ... or "tell me I'm wrong"..... or somethin like that.... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 02:50:12 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Book In a message dated 1/6/01 9:22:02 AM, manbear@netonecom.net writes: << Do you, or anyone on the list, know the history > > of this company and who were the Americans involved > > in it? >> Victoria, There's a great story of Wilson Price Hunt spending 45 days at New Archangel (Sheetka) , trading with Governor Baranoff for furs to ship to Canton. Seems the Gov drank a bit.... Anyway, the trade was made, but as luck would have it, the fur was seal skins and they were located in Kamtschatka... 27 day later Hunt arrives at St Pauls (Russia), and the seal have yet to be caught! ...Read "Astoria", it's very good stuff.... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:37:16 -0500 From: "ROBERT SPARR" Subject: MtMan-List: unsubscribe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_06D8_01C07820.75294760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable majordomo@lists.xmission.com": - ------=_NextPart_000_06D8_01C07820.75294760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ------=_NextPart_000_06D8_01C07820.75294760-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:42:13 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Thanks Teton!!! > Can't wait. As I said before, hope ole Titus doesn't go under. > > "Teton" Todd D. Glover >> > They wouldn't DARE kill off Titus!!! We ought to form a possee and scalp the author if'n he does... Ad Miller Alderson, WV - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:48:25 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: MtMan-List: Alafia Rendezvous This here's an open invite to any on these lists... Will be at the Alafia and if y'all get a chance, stop by tha camp. The MOUSE HOUSE will be in the woods off to the RIGHT as you come in the main gate. You'll know by the Irish flag and Cross of St Andrew flying from the flag pole, and the MOUSE HOUSE sign out front... Just ask the Ifotmation people where Tex and Mouse are, and they ccan tell you... Have met many of you, and look forward to meeting more... Like I said... coffee's always on, mead is brewed, and there's always something in the pot... just ain't sure what... Hawk, Capt Fred, Mole Eyes, Crooked Hand, Hilljack... ya'll BEST stop by, or suffer the WRATH of the MOUSE!!! Hehe... ask Billy about that... *grins* Ad Miller Alderson, WV - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 09:43:01 -0700 From: Mike Moore Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Spurs? - --------------07E3E3132DAF13CAF5294BA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ole, Sorry it took so long to get back with you. Brighton Feed number is: (800) 237-0721 Times are Mon. -Fri. 8-5:30. Rex can be reached at: (307) 837-2221. Hope you find some good ones. In fact, I haven't seen mine for a while, better see where they disappeared to. mike. my web pages "Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > Mike, > Do you have any phone numbers or e-mail info?. > YMOS > Ole #718 > ---------- > >From: Mike Moore > >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Spurs? > >Date: Tue, Jan 2, 2001, 6:58 AM > > > > >Ole, > > Check with Rex Norman at Fort Laramie. If I remember > >right they sell a old military spur which is just like the ones > >pictured in the Mountain Man Sketch book. If they > >don't, there is a tack shop north of me where I purchsed > >mine a few years ago. > > mike. > > > >"Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > > > >> Gentelmen & Ladies > >> Does anyone know of some authentic style Spurs being made and sold? (English > >> front and with a Western style Rowl?. > >> YMOS > >> Ole # 718 > >> > >> ---------------------- > >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > >---------------------- > >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - --------------07E3E3132DAF13CAF5294BA1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ole,
    Sorry it took so long to get back with you. Brighton Feed number
is: (800) 237-0721 Times are Mon. -Fri. 8-5:30. Rex can be reached
at: (307) 837-2221.
    Hope you find some good ones. In fact, I haven't seen mine for a
while, better see where they disappeared to.
                            mike.

 my web pages

"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:

Mike,
Do you have any phone numbers or e-mail info?.
YMOS
Ole #718
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>From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Spurs?
>Date: Tue, Jan 2, 2001, 6:58 AM
>

>Ole,
>    Check with Rex Norman at Fort Laramie. If I remember
>right they sell a old military spur which is just like the ones
>pictured in the Mountain Man Sketch book. If they
>don't, there is a tack shop north of me where I purchsed
>mine a few years ago.
>                            mike.
>
>"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:
>
>> Gentelmen & Ladies
>> Does anyone know of some authentic style Spurs being made and sold? (English
>> front and with a Western style Rowl?.
>> YMOS
>> Ole # 718
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- --------------07E3E3132DAF13CAF5294BA1-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:54:41 -0700 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots It's been very interesting reading about peoples' problems with footwear. My husband got a hankering to have some proper shoes c.1806, in addition to his nice quilled & brain-tanned moccasins. His problem is that he wears size 14 shoes, which no sutler stocks, so that would mean buying custom-made shoes. As we researched who could do the job, we also looked into historic styles. My husband's packrat tendencies came to the rescue--it turned out that his 30-year-old army boots were almost exactly the right style, give or take a seamline or two. So he wears those. The only problem? He happened to mention his good luck, and now he's been razzed for wearing army boots... Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 16:38:33 -0500 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots Aye, there's the info I was looking for, someone who had done this with success. Key bit of data is that the hair-in moc is used as a liner with an outer shell moc. Since I've got relatively poor circulation in my feet this is especially important. Seems that the greased outer moc would be made specifically to accomodate this thick liner as it would be far too big on it's own. My experience with wool and with sheep liners is that the sole crushes all too quickly to an ineffective paper-thin layer. Hopefully the heavier buff will hold up longer. Thanks! Tom SWzypher@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/5/1 07:10:46 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: > > << In your experience > do you find that a hair-in moc (buff for example) > behaves similar to wool by insulating well even > when wet or are you lining a regular moc with > wool wrapping?>> > > NOT from Cap't, but an eavesdropper to the site: > I have made mocs very successfully to serve me in foul weather. They had a > core of side-seam buff (hair-in) mocs. Then another moc to cover the first > made with high tops stitched on (can be hard sole - the best - or side seam. > I've done both) Now these cover mocs were waterproofed with patch grease. > Works well unless you hold your feet up to the fire, then they sweat through > from the snow on the outside. I have had cold feet with this arrangement and > walked five steps (I counted them) and my feet were warm. I spent an entire > day filming on the highest peak at Snowbird (Utah ski resort - had to go in > in a chopper) - dead of winter. By the end of the day the cinematographer > and all the crew - who spent half their time in the helecopter and had fine > modern footgear - had wet, cold feet. Mine were still "toasty". Hair-on > sheep hide is fine if you don't have buff. The old statement that a wool > blanket is the only wrap in which you can be wet and yet be warm holds true > here, also. Buff wool, or sheep wool - worked for me. Perhaps a wrap of > wool blanket would, by the same principle work pretty well. > If you choose to try it - my best wishes. A note: I won't expand this > message, but to wrap a high-top moc, you do NOT criss-cross two laces like a > Prince Valliant illustration. One only spiraled to the top is the Indian way > and works best. If you want to try it and are puzzled - write me. > Richard James > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:10:44 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: leather braiding Oh Gawd...... Don't let em sweet talk ya ... Victoria! ... To put an end to this, I think the question was what does "say not" mean.... Well, Capt, it's kinda like "aye" to the Canucks.... ....but mostly means, "don't ya think?" ... or "tell me I'm wrong"..... or somethin like that.... Mapgie, Well bless your little heart, you split tounge yankee scoundrel. You'all just butt out with your loose laid opinions. I'm lookin for facts Sir'a, not speculation! Capt. Lahti' ps. sounds reasonable. It is an unusual way of just saying "am I right or what?". - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:32:17 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots In a message dated 1/7/1 11:03:26 AM, agottfre@telusplanet.net writes: <> Any way you cut it - army boots just aren't Fur Trade Period. Most sincerly Richard James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:34:56 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots In a message dated 1/7/1 02:39:18 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: << My experience with wool and with sheep liners is that the sole crushes all too quickly to an ineffective paper-thin layer. Hopefully the heavier buff will hold up longer. >> Tom - I have worn out two shells and liners in mocs of this sort and never had any problem with crushing. For comparisons I weigh over 200 pounds. Richard James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:18:34 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots Tom, Another consideration no matter what type of winter moc configuration you go with, considering your poor circulation, is plenty of room inside for your feet to move and your toes to wiggle. Nothing will give you cold feet quicker than a tight shoe. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 18:26:20 -0500 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots Capt'n That's a certainty, and all too easily overlooked (or screwed up) during construction. Patterning a hair-in moc seems like it will be just a bit more complicated than a regular side seam. The only conflicting challenge to this is unsure footing due to excess looseness. Only trial will tell and one can always add a bit of padding to tighten. Thanks, Tom Roger Lahti wrote: > Tom, > > Another consideration no matter what type of winter moc configuration you go > with, considering your poor circulation, is plenty of room inside for your > feet to move and your toes to wiggle. Nothing will give you cold feet > quicker than a tight shoe. > > Capt. Lahti' > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:47:27 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots > Any way you cut it - army boots just aren't Fur Trade Period. Richard, With all due respect, I'm not that sure about this. Reading through the bills of lading of goods going west with the Trading companies, there are mention of barrels of shoes or boots and surely such were worn by other than the few partners around. Not to say they were universally worn or lasted a season but............ Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:53:14 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots The only > conflicting challenge to this is unsure footing > due to excess looseness. Tom, One thing that seems to help this is to make a 1+- inch wide strap that comes under the instep and up the sides just about 2 inches. With a thong passed through holes in each end of the strap, from side to side and the excess wrapped around the ankle over the moc, extra play is taken up effectively and in an area where the advantages of looseness is not so important for keeping toes warm. The strap also seems to help with traction. Try it. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:43:09 -0600 From: Victoria Pate Subject: MtMan-List: : Re: MtMan-Book Dr. Allen and Manbear, Thank you for taking the time to respond to my query about the Russian-American Fur Company. Much obliged, Victoria - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:11:21 -0600 From: Victoria Pate Subject: MtMan-List: : Re: MtMan-Book > Victoria, > > There's a great story of Wilson Price Hunt spending 45 days at New > Archangel > (Sheetka) , trading with Governor Baranoff for furs to ship > to Canton....... > ...Read "Astoria", it's very good stuff.... > > Ymos, > Magpie Magpie, I have "Astoria" and "Adventure at Astoria 1810-1814" by Gabriel Franchere (1786-1863), who was under contract to Astor's Pacific Fur Company. I also have Peter C. Newman's 3 volume work on the HBC. I can't decide on which book to read after I finish Cleland's book on the Southwest Fur Trade. Thanks Magpie, Victoria > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:50:51 -0600 From: Richard J Holliday Subject: MtMan-List: List manager/owner? - --=====================_24823090==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have a question for the manager/owner of this list. Please, someone, tell me who to contact. TIA Doc *********************************************** Richard J. Holliday, DVM Office: 319 568 3401 Holistic Dairy Consultant Residence 319 568 3624 203 2nd St. N.E. 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- --=====================_24823090==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:39:53 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots In a message dated 1/7/1 04:46:26 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes: << there are mention of barrels of shoes or boots and surely such were worn by other than the few partners around>> Shoes. Yes. Boots. Yes. U.S. Army boots, nyet. No way. Not straight last, wrong materials, eyelets, and not the same pattern. I have my own last and make these puppies for myself. Its a lot of work and has called for a lot of research. Also being ex-infantry and combat engineers, I know about army boots. Sorry, I can't compromise the two R.James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:32:13 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Footwear for trapping This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C078F1.4CC7FC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to long ago the Capt. claimed to avoid mud puddles, but I bet if the = puddle has a beaver in it he'd go in deeper than most modern boots would = protect him! (Gortex boots are hell to dry out) So here is my = question; What do you hiveranos wear into the water and how long do you = go on a cold day dressed in the same clothes? WY - ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C078F1.4CC7FC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not to long ago the Capt. claimed to = avoid mud=20 puddles, but I bet if the puddle has a beaver in it he'd go in deeper = than most=20 modern boots would protect him!  (Gortex boots are hell to dry = out) =20 So here is my question; What do you hiveranos wear into the water and = how long=20 do you go on a cold day dressed in the same clothes?
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C078F1.4CC7FC40-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:16:57 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shoes, boots "Invoice of Sundry Merchandise sold and delivered to the Missouri Company by Frs Regnier at St. Louis the 3d May, 1809 5 pr Boots $10 $50 44 pair womans shoes $2 $88 " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A SHORT HISTORY OF A LONG JOURNEY FROM THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE REGION OF THE PACIFIC. BY LAND. DRAWN UP FROM THE NOTES AND ORAL INFORMATION OF JOHN B WYETH, ONE OF THE PARTY WHO LEFT MR NATHANIEL J WYETH, JULY 28TH, 1832, FOUR DAYS MARCH BEYOND THE RIDGE OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS RETURNED TO NEW ENGLAND CAMBRIDGE PRINTED FOR JOHN B. WYETH. 1833. "The company were uniform in their dress. Each one wore a coarse woollen jacket and pantaloons, a striped cotton shirt, and cowhide boots: every man had a musket, most of them rifles, all of them bayonets in a broad belt, together with a large clasped knife for eating and common purposes. The Captain and one or two more added pistols; but every one had in his belt a small axe." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life in the Rocky Mountains A Diary of Wanderings on the sources of the Rivers Missouri, Columbia, and Colorado from February, 1830, to November, 1835 By W. A. Ferris then in the employ of the American Fur Company "We killed, during our march, five buffalos and an antelope. One of our Indians found in Pierre's Hole, a pair of boots, and some articles of clothing, that had evidently been there a long time, on the prairie; probably lost by some white man during last year. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #706 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.