From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #785 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, April 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 785 In this issue: -       RE: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited -       Re: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited -       MtMan-List: AMM Land Fund Auction -       [none] -       MtMan-List: Re: -       MtMan-List: Rope for tents. -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. -       MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. -       MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! -       Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! -       MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns -       Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair -       Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns -       MtMan-List: Fw: (no subject) -       Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:35:52 -0600 From: Rick Williams Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited Good find Wynn! So we see cotton blue and white gowns. Does anyone = know what uncrinolined is referring too? not starched? not ironed? Rick - -----Original Message----- =46rom: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gretchen Ormo= nd Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:33 PM To: Hist mail Subject: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited Some time back we had a discussion about women=92s clothing and there= was a limited amount of documentation presented. I have recently found t= wo quotes by other authors of original sources that discribe the clothin= g worn by women. The first was written in 1841 about the group leaving the Red River Settlement for the Columbia. These women were Indian and mixed blood= s who had long term ties to the fur trade. They could be considered Eastern by some, but there so many ties to the Northern Rockies that = I believe it bares attention. The smartly dressed men were riding their showiest steeds, their wive= s and daughters were traveling in the carts, enthroned on high heaps of baggage. Many of the women were clearly of unmingled Indian blood, t= all and anangular, long masses of straight black hair fell over their bac= ks, blue and white cotton gowns, shapeless, stayless, uncrinolined, displayed the flatness of their unprojecting figures. Some wore gaud= y handkerchief on the head, the married, one also across the bosum. Children of the Fur Trade. John C Jackson Quote of: Earl of Southesk, Saskatchewan and the Rocky Mountains (Rutland,Vt.: Charles Tuttle Co. 1969),44. The other quote was of Lieutenant Charles Wilkes, United States Navy, who visited the Columbia during the summer of 1841. He wrote of the Indian wives he encountered: The ladies of the country are dressed after our own bygone fashions w= ith the exception of leggins made of red or blue cloth, richly ornamented= . Their feet, which are small and pretty, are covered with worked mocasins. Many of them have a dignified look and carriage: their bla= ck eyes and hair, and brown ruddy complexion, combined with a pleasing expression give them an air of independence and usefulness that one little expects to see. As wives, they are spoken of as most devoted, and many of them have performed deeds in the hur of danger and difficulty, worthy of being recorded. . . Peter Skene Ogden: Fur Trader: Archie Binns. Binfords & Mort 1967. These quotes may leave as many questions as answers but is always nic= e to have something at least. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.ht= ml - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:52:36 -0500 From: Victoria Pate Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Womens Clothing Revisited On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:35:52 -0600 Rick Williams writes: > Good find Wynn! So we see cotton blue and white gowns. Does anyone > know > what uncrinolined is referring too? not starched? not ironed? > Rick > Crinoline, a fabric woven of flax and horsehair, was considered progressive (in the 19th century) because it was wiry enough to replace two or three cotton petticoats. The ladies apparently thought it was better to be uncrinolined and unstayed while riding on top of baggage. These were some smart wimmin. Victoria - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:48:16 EDT From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: AMM Land Fund Auction AMM Land Fund Auction A Brass Mounted J. Henry English Pattern Trade Rifle And Gear The Henry Trade Rifles have been called the work horse of the fur trade. In Charles Hansen's book The Hawkins Rifle And It's Place In History, he notes the first order for this style Henry was 1826 for the fur trade. Between the years of 1831 and 1833, Henry's shop produced 400 brass mounted trade rifles and 60 steel mounted trade rifles. Most all of these being produced for the fur trade. So if you're wanting to get yourself a good fur trade period rifle, here's your chance to get a 44 inch barrel, brass mounted J. Henry English pattern trade rifle like the ones that were out here in the heyday of the fur trade. All proceeds from this auction will be going to the AMM land fund. So help out the AMM and yours self by not letting someone else out bid you on this fine shootin rig. To have a look at her and get the info on the Auction go to: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/amm/riflerafle.html Please post this on what ever Lists you think maybe interested In this here Auction. Help me get the word out. Thanks For Your Support Crazy Cyot - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:50:13 -0400 From: "walter palmer" Subject: [none] when setting up my tent for the 1830 period , what kind of rope should i use? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:54:20 -0400 From: "D. Miles" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Walter, I would use jute or hemp.. Grease it as well. I have a 25' section of 1/4" hemp that waxed and greased and have used constantly for near 9 years and it is as good as the day I acquired it. D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Knives and Iron Accouterments http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning." - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:42:13 From: "Chance Tiffie" Subject: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the Rockies. Cliff Tiffie PO Box 5089 Durant, OK 74702 580-924-4187 - --------------------- Aux Aliments de Pays! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:18:00 -0400 From: "'bella" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. manilla as in hemp? ::smiles:: Chance Tiffie wrote: > According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the > Rockies. > > Cliff Tiffie > PO Box 5089 > Durant, OK > 74702 > 580-924-4187 > --------------------- > Aux Aliments de Pays! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. I think this is what he means. Manila hemp, a strong fiber from the leafstalk of a Phillippine tree related to the banna; abac'a: it is used for making rope, paper, ect. - --- 'bella wrote: > manilla as in hemp? ::smiles:: > > Chance Tiffie wrote: > > > According to trade list inventories, coils of > manilla rope went to the > > Rockies. > > > > Cliff Tiffie > > PO Box 5089 > > Durant, OK > > 74702 > > 580-924-4187 > > --------------------- > > Aux Aliments de Pays! > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:31:12 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! Sory, misspelled Banana ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:53:32 EDT From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! >Sory, misspelled Banana You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either. If ya drink, don't type. Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people. Dave Kanger If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P? - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! Sorry,"Fox" (Dave) blame the "sory" on my keyboard some times it doubles, sometimes it will miss a letter.The "opps" on my typing finger (I only use one at a time) K9P, Now let us see!!!! I know, lets ask a tree. - --- ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote: > >Sory, misspelled Banana > > You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either. > If ya drink, don't type. > Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents > cause people. > > Dave Kanger > If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P? > ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:20:44 -0700 From: "Alfred E. Holland, Jr." Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. Manila rope is made from the fiber of a plant that looks a whole lot like an agave. The fiber is short, brittle, coarse, and cheap. Hemp rope is made from hemp, Cannabis sp. The fiber is long, supple, strong, thus a far superior material, and was and is priced accordingly. You probably ought to rig your tent with manila unless you're portraying a very rich dude. Al Holland At 1:18 PM -0400 4/17/01, 'bella wrote: >manilla as in hemp? ::smiles:: > >Chance Tiffie wrote: > > > According to trade list inventories, coils of manilla rope went to the > > Rockies. > > > > Cliff Tiffie > > PO Box 5089 > > Durant, OK > > 74702 > > 580-924-4187 > > --------------------- > > Aux Aliments de Pays! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Sega Subject: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair Just thought I might spark some discussion. In Terry Johnstons books, he often mentions Buffalo hair ropes. My thought on this is, why would Native Americans manufacture rope from Buffalo Hair? In my opinion, Horsehair would be a better bet, as it is longer, easily procured and has a long history of use. Buffalo hair on the other hand is shorter, and what would they have used? The hair or undercoat? I know the undercoat could be used to make cordage and then be made in to rope, but I don't know what is easier, hitchin hair or hand producing cord. I have made cordage from nettle yucca etc, but I haven't hitched hair, although I am familiar with the method. For that matter why not rawhide ropes? Just some thoughts, what do you guys think. I'm gonna dive into the archives and see what I can find. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:39:27 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair In a message dated 4/17/1 12:57:32 PM, chrissega1@yahoo.com writes: <> That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is super abundant on even one animal. On the other hand, to make a rope of horsehair you have to accept the resulting "very funny-looking horse" or a dead one - in fact several - to get enough material to make a rope. Horsehair, being slick, does not twist up well, but has to be braided, or plaited. Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted "cordage style" and become a single, long unit. RJames - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:52:21 EDT From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair > That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front > quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is > super abundant on even one animal. > Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted > "cordage style" and become a single, long unit. I tried some time back to get someone to send me a couple of gunny sacksful of spring-shed winter coat, so that I could have it spun into buffalo wool yarn. Them that had it said it was very plentiful, except it wasn't worth the trouble to remove the impacted dirt and manure to get it clean enough to use. Anybody think different, or had any luck spinning it into yarn? Dave Kanger - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:50:19 -0400 From: Linda Holley Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair I have seen it twisted, spun and braided into string, rope and weaving yarn. It does take a great deal of time. Maybe that's why we see lots of leather rope in Native work. Linda Holley ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote: > > That abundant wooly stuff that lies on tatanka's head, shoulders and front > > quarters is not short, it responds to a cordage twist very well, and it is > > super abundant on even one animal. > > Tatanka's hair is more suited for "felting" so it can be twisted > > "cordage style" and become a single, long unit. > > I tried some time back to get someone to send me a couple of gunny sacksful > of spring-shed winter coat, so that I could have it spun into buffalo wool > yarn. Them that had it said it was very plentiful, except it wasn't worth > the trouble to remove the impacted dirt and manure to get it clean enough to > use. > > Anybody think different, or had any luck spinning it into yarn? > > Dave Kanger > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:28:19 -0400 From: "'bella" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope for tents. thank. you finally someone caught my jest... and my point. speaking of tent rope.. if you can get someone to make your 'eyes' by back weaving the ends into themselves, this seems, at least in my experience to last longer.. as does using knots to make your 'slide' rather than 'dog-bones' your mileage may vary 'bella > Manila rope is made from the fiber of a plant that looks a whole lot > like an agave. The fiber is short, brittle, coarse, and cheap. Hemp > rope is made from hemp, Cannabis sp. The fiber is long, supple, > strong, thus a far superior material, and was and is priced > accordingly. You probably ought to rig your tent with manila unless > you're portraying a very rich dude. > > Al Holland - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:54:14 -0400 From: "'bella" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair ever card wool? or make yarn from it? perhaps they used a variation of that method? wool yarn can be quite strong. I use it to tie all sorts of things after I braid three strands together. discovered by accident.. made a hackamore one afternoon in desperation out of it.. worked nice.. would not care to try the experiment again, but it worked. a. > Just thought I might spark some discussion. In Terry > Johnstons books, he often mentions Buffalo hair ropes. > My thought on this is, why would Native Americans > manufacture rope from Buffalo Hair? In my opinion, > Horsehair would be a better bet, as it is longer, > easily procured and has a long history of use. > Buffalo hair on the other hand is shorter, and what > would they have used? The hair or undercoat? I know > the undercoat could be used to make cordage and then > be made in to rope, but I don't know what is easier, > hitchin hair or hand producing cord. I have made > cordage from nettle yucca etc, but I haven't hitched > hair, although I am familiar with the method. For > that matter why not rawhide ropes? Just some > thoughts, what do you guys think. I'm gonna dive into > the archives and see what I can find. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:48:05 -0500 From: "jdearing" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! > >Sory, misspelled Banana > > You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either. > If ya drink, don't type. > Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people. > Are you trying to say he needs a designated typist? J.D. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:51:54 -0400 From: Manbear Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Opps !!!!! TOF, I worked with the dogs in Viet Nam and I KNOW what K9P is. Manbear ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote: > >Sory, misspelled Banana > > You ain't too good at "sorry" or "oops" either. > If ya drink, don't type. > Also, if ya drink, don't park.........accidents cause people. > > Dave Kanger > If banana is BaNa2.............what's K9P? > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:00:17 -0400 From: "Possum Hunter" Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West http://www.northstarwest.com ? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns. Possum - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:00:34 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair In a message dated 4/17/1 01:53:23 PM, ThisOldFox@aol.com writes: <> guess its all in how you were raised. RJames - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:16:24 -0400 From: "John Hunt" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns Possum, I never bought a gun from them. They done some lock work on my Curly gun. They were very prompt, (deer season coming soon). They done a good job at a more than fair price. The lock has been working great since they repaired it. Bout 4-5 yrs. John (BIG JOHN) Hunt longhunter mountainman Southwest, Ohio - ----- Original Message ----- From: Possum Hunter To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:00 PM Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns > Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West http://www.northstarwest.com > ? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking > about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns. > > Possum > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:15:27 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: (no subject) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0C7D7.58051CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard from Laura Jean. I am forwarding her post without comment. I = am not sure that she will have regular access to email so if you post = her you might Cc: to me, so in the event she doesn't get your post I can = forward it to her. Lanney - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wind1838@aol.com=20 To: amm1585@hyperusa.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:30 PM Subject: (no subject) My dear Lanney=20 Thank you for being here for me =20 Your efforts to keep me in contact with people I know and have never = even met=20 well, I can't even describe what I am feeling now besides overwhelmed. = =20 I will be brief. They confirmed today the tumor was malignant. They hope = and=20 expect that they surgically removed it all. This type tumor is = classified as=20 the highest grade malignant "type" available. But the good news is that = I=20 came through the surgery in an amazing fashion. I was out of the = hospital in=20 three days. Spent Easter in the south eating bacon, grits, hot sauce, = believe=20 me this episode hasn't affected my southern appetite.=20 I refuse to talk about life span. Today was an amazing day full of = azaleas,=20 dogwood, charming elegant southern ladies with silver hair (and that = wouldn't=20 be me because I don't have hair -- look like the Blackfeet raised my = hair_,=20 and sunshine. =20 This is very difficult for my family. Today was Sayward's 17th birthday. = =20 That was a hard one. I am on antiseisure medication and I can't drive. = =20 Think I can eventually hitch a ride across the "divide" with one of you = AMM=20 guys?=20 I want you to know that I am well. I am very well. I will be treated = by the=20 top physicians in the nation. There is a very aggressive therapy = available=20 here, only here at Duke. We are trying to get me into a halfway house=20 tomorrow so it isn't so expensive. The teachers in my school district = have=20 donated their sick leave so I won't miss my paycheck. That is a great = relief=20 to me knowing that my family won't be going without now. Actually, it's = difficult to begin to express what I am feeling on a minute to minute = basis. =20 I will be in touch when I move locations. I will be here at Duke at = least=20 two more weeks. They are going to do a procedure in two days similar to = dialysis where they harvest some of my blood cells before they put me in = the=20 microwave. I have now become my own science fair project.=20 I have taken an enormous amount of strength from you and Tammy Dayle the = last=20 couple of weeks. I thank you. I love you. Laura Jean=20 Please keep in touch with my mother: Cdune72@aol.com. It would mean a = great=20 deal to her. She feels very left out and helpless. =20 LJ=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0C7D7.58051CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I heard from Laura Jean.  I am forwarding her = post=20 without comment.  I am not sure that she will have regular access = to email=20 so if you post her you might Cc: to me, so in the event she doesn't get = your=20 post I can forward it to her.
Lanney
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Wind1838@aol.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:30 PM
Subject: (no subject)

My dear = Lanney=20

Thank you for being here for me  
Your efforts to keep = me in=20 contact with people I know and have never even met
  well, = I can't=20 even describe what I am feeling now besides overwhelmed.   =

I will=20 be brief. They confirmed today the tumor was malignant. They hope and =
expect=20 that they surgically removed it all.  This type tumor is classified = as=20
the highest grade malignant "type" available. But the good news is = that I=20
came through the surgery in an amazing fashion. I was out of the = hospital in=20
three days. Spent Easter in the south eating bacon, grits, hot = sauce,=20 believe
me this episode hasn't affected my southern appetite. =

I=20 refuse to talk about life span.  Today was an amazing day full of = azaleas,=20
dogwood, charming elegant southern ladies with silver hair (and that = wouldn't
be me because I don't have hair -- look like the Blackfeet = raised=20 my hair_,
and sunshine.  

This is very difficult for my = family.=20 Today was Sayward's 17th birthday.  
That was a hard one. =  I am on=20 antiseisure medication and I can't drive.  
Think I can = eventually=20 hitch a ride across the "divide" with one of you AMM
guys?

I = want=20 you to know that I am well.  I am very well.  I will be = treated by the=20
top physicians in the nation.  There is a very aggressive = therapy=20 available
here, only here at Duke.  We are trying to get me = into a=20 halfway house
tomorrow so it isn't so expensive.  The teachers = in my=20 school district have
donated their sick leave so I won't miss my = paycheck.=20  That is a great relief
to me knowing that my family won't be = going=20 without now.  Actually, it's
difficult to begin to express what = I am=20 feeling on a minute to minute basis.  

I will be in touch = when I=20 move locations.  I will be here at Duke at least
two more = weeks.=20  They are going to do a procedure in two days similar to =
dialysis where=20 they harvest some of my blood cells before they put me in the =
microwave.=20  I have now become my own science fair project.

I have = taken an=20 enormous amount of strength from you and Tammy Dayle the last
couple = of=20 weeks.  I thank you.  I love you.   Laura Jean=20

Please keep in touch with my mother:  Cdune72@aol.com. =  It=20 would mean a great
deal to her.  She feels very left out and = helpless.=20  

LJ - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0C7D7.58051CC0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:51:24 -0700 From: "ALAN AVERY" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns Possum Hunter, I have been shooting a North Star West canoe gun for a couple of years now, (for the unknowing: a canoe gun is a shorter version of the NW trade gun.) In my opinion, ol' Iron Jaw, (Bob Rathbun, one of the owners) and co. make real fine guns. Go for it! You won't be disappointed! Black Knife Alan Avery - -----Original Message----- From: Possum Hunter To: scalpdance@yahoogroups.com Cc: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: April 17, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: MtMan-List: North Star West Flintlock Trade Guns >Has anybody ever got a gun from North Star West http://www.northstarwest.com >? What is the quality like? How was the customer service? I am thinking >about getting one of their 24Ga Trade Guns. > >Possum > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #785 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.