Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous

From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #834 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, July 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 834 In this issue: -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 Re: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Fw: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: completely off any period subject -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: completely off any period subject -牋牋牋 Re: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: completely off any period subject -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fort Bridger -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:25:33 -0500 From: trapper@cillnet.com (Brad Everett) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth > For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) It > took a little less than a quart of boiled linseed oil, (no thinner or > turpentine added) and near a pound of yellow iron oxide to cover it well. Hey Magpie, two ?, how did you put the linseed oil on? Brush or soak? And where did you find the Egyptian cotton? Is it different than regular 200+ sheets? Thanks in advance. Trapper, Trek'n through time, backwards! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:42:49 -0600 From: "Daniel L. Smith" Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun?

Good evening boys, Hate to say I told you so, but Buck Conner has a 1940's (yes 1940's) HBC gun that Hanson sold him, Charley said it was probably the last of the "trade guns", looks like an H&R single shot break open 20ga gun with the "HBC" proof marks. Really different, the museum had several and decided to sell one, we where there when it was put up for sale, Buck saw it and was the first to grab it, smiled and looked at me and said "SOLD" - he didn't even give Charley a chance to say how much. Well boys, haven't been on the list for a spell, but couldn't pass on your little talk about "trade guns", hate like heck to give him a big head, but look at this site. http://www.pages.about.com/buckconner/ click on: WEAPONS takes you to here: http://www.pages.about.com/buckconner/weapons.htm click on: "Success in the North American Fur Trade" Here's a good reference that the man "Charles E. Hanson" helped Buck with before moving on years back, several magazines and the AMM T&LR ran this in a 2 part issue a few years ago.

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- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:06:17 +0800 From: buck_conner@email.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? - -----Original Message----- From: jim gossett Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun? > I recently bought an origninal Trade Gun but it is somewhat puzzling. The gun is 58 cal smoothbore 38.5 inch barrel The flint lock is over 1.5 wide x 7" long with an 1810 date .Inside the lock on the tumbler is a number 44 . The lock also has a bridle. The ramrod pipes are very much like the 2nd model Brown Bess even the ram rod entrance pipe. All brass mountings small trihher guard like a Wilson but without the fineal. flat butt plate (brass) . The barrel has a fixed rear site and is painted black with this stamped on the barrel JPR | EXR|3. The gun is very well put together wood to metal fit etc.There is a V scratched on the inside of lock inside of the buttplate on the under side of the barrel and in the stock channel .The ramrod is metal and the frant site is like a bayonet stud . Any help would be good. Gentleman James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dick, Sounds like a parts gun, don't get excited "GJ", nothing wrong with a parts gun, I have one myself, it's a trade gun built out of left over pieces. Have seen several of these, according to what I have been told by Curly G., Charley H. and a few other collectors, they where usually assembled at the end of finishing a government contract. Like we need 4 more guns to finish the order and we're out of 42" barrels but have a few shorter barrels from another contract or the hardware is a little different but will do. Remember many of these companies where just assemblers of parts provided by other firms in Europe, probably the beginning of the "cottage industries" like we saw in the "hippie" days according to Hanson. I have a pre 1813 Sutherland, proofed, stamped w/ sitting fox, all the right marks and it has a Brown Bess style side plate ? Charley & Curly took one look and told me just what I told you. - -- Take care, Buck Conner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ AMM ~ LENAPE ~ NRA ~ HRD ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Outdoor Ethics] "Leave No Trace" "Rival the best - Surpass the rest". ___________ Aux Aliments de Pays! _ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:14:12 -0600 From: "Daniel L. Smith" Subject: Re: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth

---= - -- Original Message ----- From: <SWcushing@aol.com> To: <hist_text@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth > For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) > Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry, and seven in the shade to > loose the smell... > Ymos, > Magpie =A0HI magpie, just did a new haversack made of linen the same way. It dryed in =A0about two days in the =A0sun and three in the shade, but its been going on three weeks now, with very high humidity,and the odor is still quite strong. But it is quite waterproof and sure does look purty! ________________________________ Boys, Becareful with this style of waterproofing until really dry, then break it down (take the stiffness out) with a smooth round creek rock, it will make your cloth last twicw as long and won't tear as easy. I would store it where it get plenty of air, had a friend back here in PA have one light up and burn part of his storage building, according to the fire marshall it had dried enough and went up. Good luck. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.htm l - ---- End Original Message ----

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- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:21:47 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Fw: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1147E.43CC93C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Read the last part of this carefully. Under certain conditions linseed = oil soaked rags (or haversacks) will break down, generating enough heat = to spontaneously combust. Oops!! Lanney Ratcliff=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth > For those considering making one, I just=20 finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton=20 sheet. (220 threads per inch!) > Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry,=20 and seven in the shade to > loose the smell... > Ymos, > Magpie HI magpie, just did a new haversack made of=20 linen the same way. It dryed in about two days in the sun and three in the=20 shade, but its been going on three weeks now, with very high humidity,and the=20 odor is still quite strong. But it is quite waterproof and sure does look=20 purty! ________________________________ Boys, Becareful with this style of waterproofing until=20 really dry, then break it down (take the=20 stiffness out) with a smooth round creek rock, it=20 will make your cloth last twicw as long and won't=20 tear as easy. I would store it where it get=20 plenty of air, had a friend back here in PA have=20 one light up and burn part of his storage=20 building, according to the fire marshall it had=20 dried enough and went up. Good luck. ---------------------- hist_text list info:=20 http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.htm l ---- End Original Message ---- Later,=20 Daniel L. "Concho" Smith _____________________________________________=20 HISTORICAL RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT_______HRD__ http://pages.about.com/dlsmith/_________HRD__ [Outdoor Ethics] "Leave No Trace" _____________________________________________ Sign up for a free About Email account at http://About.com=20 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1147E.43CC93C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Read the last part of this = carefully. =20 Under certain conditions linseed oil soaked rags (or=20 haversacks) will break down, generating enough heat to = spontaneously=20 combust. Oops!!

Lanney Ratcliff

----- Original Message ----- From: <SWcushing@aol.com> To: = <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= > Sent:=20 Monday, July 23, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: oil = cloth >=20 For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little=20 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton = sheet.=20 (220 threads per inch!) > Baker sez you need two days in the = sun to=20 dry, and seven in the shade to > loose the smell... >=20 Ymos, > Magpie HI magpie, just did a new haversack = made of=20 linen the same way. It dryed in about two days in the = sun=20 and three in the shade, but its been going on three weeks = now, with=20 very high humidity,and the odor is still quite strong. But it = is=20 quite waterproof and sure does look=20 = purty! ________________________________ Boys, Becare= ful=20 with this style of waterproofing until really dry, then break it = down=20 (take the stiffness out) with a smooth round creek rock, it = will=20 make your cloth last twicw as long and won't tear as easy. = I would=20 store it where it get plenty of air, had a friend back here in = PA have=20 one light up and burn part of his storage building, = according to the=20 fire marshall it had dried enough and went up. Good=20 luck. ---------------------- hist_text list info:=20 = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.htm l ---- = End=20 Original Message ----

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---------------------- = hist_text=20 list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1147E.43CC93C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:34:06 -0500 From: Victoria Pate Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:33:34 -0700 "Randal Bublitz" writes: > > Magpie, I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such. Is egyptian > cotton readily available? Randy, Egyptian cotton has been readily available for say, oh..... 'bout 5K years. Egyptian cotton sheets can be found at the finer department stores. You can also buy Egyptian cotton fabric. Look on the net for both. Victoria - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:39:23 -0500 From: jim gossett Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? PARTS GUN VERY WELL COULD BE.THE WOOD TO METAL FIT IS SECOND TO NONE. THANKS FOR THE HELP. MAYBE SOME ONE ELSE HAS A DIFFERENT SLANT .WE"LL SEE. buck_conner@email.com wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: jim gossett > Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun? > > I recently bought an origninal Trade Gun but it is somewhat puzzling. The gun is 58 cal smoothbore 38.5 inch barrel The flint lock is over 1.5 wide x 7" long with an 1810 date .Inside the lock on the tumbler is a number 44 . The lock also has a bridle. The ramrod pipes are very much like the 2nd model Brown Bess even the ram rod entrance pipe. All brass mountings small trihher guard like a Wilson but without the fineal. flat butt plate (brass) . The barrel has a fixed rear site and is painted black with this stamped on the barrel JPR | EXR|3. The gun is very well put together wood to metal fit etc.There is a V scratched on the inside of lock inside of the buttplate on the under side of the barrel and in the stock channel .The ramrod is metal and the frant site is like a bayonet stud . Any help would be good. Gentleman James > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dick, > > Sounds like a parts gun, don't get excited "GJ", nothing wrong with a parts gun, I have one myself, it's a trade gun built out of left over pieces. Have seen several of these, according to what I have been told by Curly G., Charley H. and a few other collectors, they where usually assembled at the end of finishing a government contract. Like we need 4 more guns to finish the order and we're out of 42" barrels but have a few shorter barrels from another contract or the hardware is a little different but will do. > > Remember many of these companies where just assemblers of parts provided by other firms in Europe, probably the beginning of the "cottage industries" like we saw in the "hippie" days according to Hanson. > > I have a pre 1813 Sutherland, proofed, stamped w/ sitting fox, all the right marks and it has a Brown Bess style side plate ? Charley & Curly took one look and told me just what I told you. > > -- > > Take care, > Buck Conner > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~ AMM ~ LENAPE ~ NRA ~ HRD ~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [Outdoor Ethics] "Leave No Trace" > "Rival the best - Surpass the rest". > ___________ Aux Aliments de Pays! _ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:28:27 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: completely off any period subject In about an hour.....a little before 10:30pm Central time the space shuttle should enter the atmosphere and cross west to east toward Florida, essentially crossing right above my house here in Central Texas. If you want to see it be ready cause it don't take long to make the trip. I saw this once and it was spectacular, so get out and watch your tax dollars at work. Lanney Ratcliff - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:41:19 -0400 From: "'bella" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: completely off any period subject been there done that, lived in Fla watched up close take off, and was watching that ill fated day too... the clap of sound it makes when it hits atmosphere is awesome.. try being in Tampa as it makes it approach to Canaveral.... one of the few tax dollars I do not mind donating.... At 09:28 PM 7/24/2001 -0500, you wrote: >In about an hour.....a little before 10:30pm Central time the space shuttle >should enter the atmosphere and cross west to east toward Florida, >essentially crossing right above my house here in Central Texas. If you >want to see it be ready cause it don't take long to make the trip. I saw >this once and it was spectacular, so get out and watch your tax dollars at >work. >Lanney Ratcliff > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:57:02 -0600 From: "Daniel L. Smith" Subject: Re: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun?

- ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: jim gossett <gjme@negia.net> Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:39:23 -0500 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? PARTS GUN VERY WELL COULD BE.THE WOOD TO METAL FIT IS SECOND TO NONE. THANKS FOR THE HELP. MAYBE SOME ONE ELSE HAS =A0A DIFFERENT =A0SLANT .WE"LL SEE. - ---------------------- I got a "parts gun" myself that was purchased at the Museum of the Fur Trade years ago, they still bring a stiff price, just like the history book correct ones. Please excuse the poor spelling of last posting, on pain killers for a twisted back, to old for shoeing mules anymore. We did a demo of life on an Amish farm this past weekend, 1830's style, an old genny got the best of me.

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- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:09:28 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous At 12:06 PM 07/24/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I heard a rumor yesterday that the Rondezvous over Labaor Day Weekend was cancelled at Fort Buenaventura in Ogden, Ut. Any truth to that? Does anyone know of any other Rondezvous in Utah that weekend? Don't know about the Fort B rendezvous, but the Fort Bridger rendezvous is that weekend. Allen - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:06:28 -0600 From: "Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language Crazy Cyot barrowed me a copy of WP Clarks Indian Sign Language. It has some interesting variations from Tomkins (besides the sign for copulation). Below is one of the signs that I believe is vastly better than what Tomkins gives. I am going to give the description then see who can guess what the meaning is first. By the way I am on the digest Email so I may be slow in answering the guesses. 揌old the right hand, back out, some eight inches in front of the neck, hand partially closed, palmer surface of thumb pressing agianst the nails of the first three fingers, edge of hand pointed upward; elevate hand some inches, at same time extend and separate fingers and thumb with a snap. . . .� Another interesting note Clark claims that if he used a different sign than the one that individual usually used the Indain would adopt Clark抯 sign for the rest of the conversation. He said he had to be careful not to plant signs and give the impression that there were few variations from tribe to tribe or area to area. Wynn Ormond - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:02:15 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: completely off any period subject bella where are you located "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:29:17 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous In a message dated 7/25/1 4:56:39 AM, allenhall@srv.net writes: <> Just spent all day down there. It isn't that it was canceled, exactly, but it just won't be. It has always been put up for bids for what person(s) or group would like to take it on. This year the bid date came and went with no bids. So - no doin's. Richard James (who put on the first Ft. Buena Ventura Rendezvous in the winter before the fort was even there and also started the Fort Bridger Rendezvous. What else do you want to know??) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:39:12 EDT From: Htorr@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Clarks Sign Language - --part1_de.17e28cb7.288fa770_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Hi! From the description, my guess would be the sign for "fire." As in=20 campfire. Tom Orr >=20 > Crazy Cyot barrowed me a copy of WP Clarks Indian Sign Language. It has > some interesting variations from Tomkins (besides the sign for > copulation). Below is one of the signs that I believe is vastly better > than what Tomkins gives. I am going to give the description then see > who can guess what the meaning is first. By the way I am on the digest > Email so I may be slow in answering the guesses. >=20 > =E2=80=9CHold the right hand, back out, some eight inches in front of the=20= neck, > hand partially closed, palmer surface of thumb pressing agianst the > nails of the first three fingers, edge of hand pointed upward; elevate > hand some inches, at same time extend and separate fingers and thumb > with a snap. . . .=E2=80=9D >=20 > Another interesting note Clark claims that if he used a different sign > than the one that individual usually used the Indain would adopt Clark=E2= =80=99s > sign for the rest of the conversation. He said he had to be careful not > to plant signs and give the impression that there were few variations > from tribe to tribe or area to area. >=20 > Wynn Ormond >=20 >=20 >=20 - --part1_de.17e28cb7.288fa770_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Hi!

From the description, my gues= s would be the sign for "fire." As in=20
campfire.

Tom Orr

Crazy Cyot barrowed me a copy of WP Clarks Indian Sign Language. I= t has
some interesting variations from Tomkins (besides the sign for
copulation). Below is one of the signs that I believe is vastly be= tter
than what Tomkins gives. I am going to give the description then s= ee
who can guess what the meaning is first. By the way I am on the di= gest
Email so I may be slow in answering the guesses.

=E2=80=9CHold the right hand, back out, some eight inches in front of th= e neck,
hand partially closed, palmer surface of thumb pressing agianst the
nails of the first three fingers, edge of hand pointed upward; elevate
hand some inches, at same time extend and separate fingers and thumb
with a snap. . . .=E2=80=9D

Another interesting note Clark claims that if he used a different sign
than the one that individual usually used the Indain would adopt Clark= =E2=80=99s
sign for the rest of the conversation. He said he had to be carefu= l not
to plant signs and give the impression that there were few variations
from tribe to tribe or area to area.

Wynn Ormond

- --part1_de.17e28cb7.288fa770_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:57:39 -0600 From: "Walt Foster" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous > Richard James > (who put on the first Ft. Buena Ventura Rendezvous in the winter before the > fort was even there and also started the Fort Bridger Rendezvous. What else > do you want to know??) Hey old timer, Have you ever been to Montana. BTW, what was the date of the 1st Fort Bridger Rendezvous? Always enjoy your thoughtful posts. Cheers, Walt - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:43:50 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Bridger - --part1_3a.18373ea3.288fb696_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to the second Fort Bridger Rondezvous in 1974 Roadkill - --part1_3a.18373ea3.288fb696_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to the second Fort Bridger Rondezvous in 1974
Roadkill - --part1_3a.18373ea3.288fb696_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:30:46 EDT From: CTOAKES@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth - --part1_108.30ef0ce.289015f6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/24/01 9:15:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlsmith@about.com writes: > had a friend back here in PA have > You also need to watch them around camp fires. We have a club member that was on a trek with an oil cloth diamond shelter he had made. Had all his kit in the shelter and was cooking breakfast when the wind took a little spark up onto the oil cloth. Burned so fast that it barely damaged the items he had in the shelter but his smoothbore now has a two tone stock as the fire darkened the wood on the side facing up. So be careful that you keep the fires away from oil cloth and down wind. Y.M.O.S. C.T. Oakes - --part1_108.30ef0ce.289015f6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/24/01 9:15:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dlsmith@about.com writes:

had a friend back here in PA have
one light up and burn

You also need to watch them around camp fires. We have a club member that
was on a trek with an oil cloth diamond shelter he had made. Had all his kit
in the shelter and was cooking breakfast when the wind took a little spark up
onto the oil cloth. Burned so fast that it barely damaged the items he had
in the shelter but his smoothbore now has a two tone stock as the fire
darkened the wood on the side facing up. So be careful that you keep the
fires away from oil cloth and down wind.

Y.M.O.S.

C.T. Oakes - --part1_108.30ef0ce.289015f6_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:23:09 -0700 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3078890590_29510_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Scott, Yes it has been canceled. Fort Bridger Rendezvous is happening at the same time. Ole - ---------- From: "Scott Gottschall" To: "MtMan List" Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001, 11:06 AM I heard a rumor yesterday that the Rondezvous over Labaor Day Weekend was cancelled at Fort Buenaventura in Ogden, Ut. Any truth to that? Does anyone know of any other Rondezvous in Utah that weekend? - --MS_Mac_OE_3078890590_29510_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous Scott,
Yes it has been canceled. Fort Bridger Rendezvous is happening at the same = time.
Ole
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Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001, 11:06 AM

I heard a rumor yesterday that the Rondezvous ov= er Labaor Day Weekend was cancelled at Fort Buenaventura in Ogden, Ut. = ;Any truth to that? Does anyone know of any other Rondezvous in Utah t= hat weekend?

- --MS_Mac_OE_3078890590_29510_MIME_Part-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:05:11 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth - --part1_c9.12fe5609.28905647_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/25/01 5:32:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CTOAKES@aol.com writes: > Burned so fast that it barely damaged the items he had > in the shelter but his smoothbore now has a two tone stock as the fire > darkened the wood on the side facing up. So be careful that you keep the > fires away from oil cloth and down wind. > > Y.M.O.S. > Geeezes..... You guys are taking the fun right outta the oil cloth work! I'm in LA for a couple days (watching my girl play basketball), so I'll check on the oil cloth when I get back. Hopefully, my house won't be a big charcoal briquette.... Ymos, Magpie - --part1_c9.12fe5609.28905647_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/25/01 5:32:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CTOAKES@aol.com
writes:

Burned so fast that it barely damaged the items he had
in the shelter but his smoothbore now has a two tone stock as the fire
darkened the wood on the side facing up. So be careful that you keep the
fires away from oil cloth and down wind.

Y.M.O.S.

Geeezes..... You guys are taking the fun right outta the oil cloth work! I'm
in LA for a couple days (watching my girl play basketball), so I'll check on
the oil cloth when I get back. Hopefully, my house won't be a big charcoal
briquette....<G>

Ymos,
Magpie - --part1_c9.12fe5609.28905647_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #834 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.