From: jarre-owner@xmission.com To: jarre-digest@xmission.com Subject: jarre Digest V7 #1 Reply-To: jarre@xmission.com Errors-To: jarre-owner@xmission.com Precedence: jarre Digest Tuesday, 20 August 1996 Volume 07 : Number 001 In this issue: Re: Does anyone know? No your right, it's no competion Harry. Questions about the past. LIST ANNOUNCEMENT - YOU *MUST* READ THIS! kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing), yello@cs.uwp.edu (Yello) New Info Message Galaxie Jarre update Rarities 2 Re: Questions about the past. When is the next IRC meeting? Re: When is the next IRC meeting? To all of you Californians... Re: When is the next IRC meeting? Re: When is the next IRC meeting? Latest IRC meeting Is the list open yet? Revolution Issue 9 released See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the jarre or jarre-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:08:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Does anyone know? Really-From: Patrick van der Poel Alexander, The video with the cobra in magnetic fields 2, is the la defense concert video. He performed it live on the 14th of july in the year 1990. I was there, and I must say it was one of his best concerts ever (especially the cobra !!). I believe he also used the cobra in the Zermat concert. I'm afraid it won't be easy to get the la defense video because recently I read on this mailing list that a few people weren't able to get it. If you really want the video you can try the Jarre Shop of the Dutch fanclub (Jarre mania), maybe they have a few copies left. Patrick van der Poel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:14:39 +0200 Subject: No your right, it's no competion Harry. Really-From: Patrick van der Poel To Harry Reinders, I'm sorry Harry, I'm afraid I made a bad choice for the subject name. Ofcourse it's no competion (we are one big happy family (grin)). I appreciate that you informed me about the pages. It would be stupid when I would make a page that someone else has already made. I want the page to be original. So thanks for your information. Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:40:22 +0200 Subject: Questions about the past. Really-From: Patrick van der Poel Here I have a few questions again. I was looking on the track listing of Rarities 2. From a few songs I don't know the year it's made. (Popcorn, Freedom Day, Récréation, Zig Zag, Cartolina, Hypnose, La belle et la bete). Does anyone know the years? I'm also wondering in which tracks Jarre performs the music and in wich tracks he is only involved as the composer (or both). A few titles have this added to it (as .....) e.g. Zig Zag (as Foggy Joe). Does this mean the artist is a guy named Foggy Joe, or is it Jarre himself acting under a different name? Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:45:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: LIST ANNOUNCEMENT - YOU *MUST* READ THIS! kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing), yello@cs.uwp.edu (Yello) Really-From: "Lazlo Nibble" PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT. Because cs.uwp.edu is due to be decommissioned soon, the hats, jarre, kraftwerk, and yello mailing lists are moving from cs.uwp.edu to xmission.com. Here is a list of steps being taken to make this move happen. * All subscribers to the digest versions of the lists have been moved to the regular interactive versions so that they will see this announcement as soon as possible. * New versions of the lists and their digests are now up and running at xmission.com. SUBSCRIBERS WILL NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY MOVED TO THE NEW LISTS. YOU MUST RESUBSCRIBE AT THE NEW LOCATION. 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I hope you enjoy the list! - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:48:25 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Galaxie Jarre update Really-From: Coen v/d Geest Hi there, I've done some updates on Galaxie Jarre, mostly on the books section. - - books are now "framed" too. - - new book index, with thumbnails - - all but one books have a picture of the cover URL: http://www.iaehv.nl/users/galaxie/jarre/index.htm Greetz Coen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Brian Frick Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 08:45:59 -0400 Subject: Rarities 2 Coen v/d Geest wrote on clic.net: > Ok, here they are > (the years are also printed on the sleeve of Rarities 2) > > Popcorn/Black Bird: 1971 > Freedom Day/Synthetic Man: 1972 > Recreation: 1972 (a band called Triangle; Jarre made instruments for them) > Zig Zag: 1973; From all Zig Zags, The Foggy Joe version is the one Jarre was > involved with. All others are covers of the song. > Cartolina/Helza: 1974 > Hypnose/Instrumental: 1974 > La Belle et la Bete/La Mort... : 1975 / 1977; both tracks can be found on > best of CDs of Gerard Lenorman > Jolly Dolly: 1976 > Lady: 1976 both tracks for 2 bands Anybody out there have this album? I thought that it is quite good, although the two tracks with Samuel Hobo (3&4) really are awful, both musically and vocally. However, Popcorn, Black Bird, Recreation, almost all of the Zig-Zags, Cartolina, Helza, Hypnose, La Belle et la Bete, La Mort..., Jolly Dolly, and Lady are EXCELLENT. The sound quality is much better on this album than on the first Rarities. The last track with the Dustbins must have been taped off the TV -- it has awful sound, and it is garbled. Trash, IMHO, in terms of listening enjoyment. What do you all think?? - -- Brian Frick Email: frickblj@westol.com WWW: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Album Now Playing: Guess!! :-) "Make sure your dreams last longer than the night." - Soundtrack by Vangelis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Coen v/d Geest Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 14:09:32 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Questions about the past. At 10:40 PM 7/17/96 +0200, you wrote: >Really-From: Patrick van der Poel >I was looking on the track listing of Rarities 2. From a few songs I >don't know the year it's made. (Popcorn, Freedom Day, R=E9cr=E9ation, Zig >Zag, Cartolina, Hypnose, La belle et la bete).=20 >Does anyone know the years? Ok, here they are (the years are also printed on the sleeve of Rarities 2) Popcorn/Black Bird: 1971 Freedom Day/Synthetic Man: 1972 Recreation: 1972 (a band called Triangle; Jarre made instruments for them) Zig Zag: 1973; From all Zig Zags, The Foggy Joe version is the one Jarre was involved with. All others are covers of the song. Cartolina/Helza: 1974 Hypnose/Instrumental: 1974 La Belle et la Bete/La Mort... : 1975 / 1977; both tracks can be found on best of CDs of Gerard Lenorman Jolly Dolly: 1976 Lady: 1976 both tracks for 2 bands >I'm also wondering in which tracks Jarre performs the music and in wich >tracks he is only involved as the composer (or both). On most tracks Jarre wrote the music (La Belle et la Bete is in fact a pre- version of 2nd Rendez-Vous). On the Triangle tracks, Jarre only made the instruments, however, some people say he played on it too. >A few titles have this added to it (as .....) >e.g. Zig Zag (as Foggy Joe). Does this mean the artist is a guy named >Foggy Joe, or is it Jarre himself acting under a different name? >Patrick Coen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: alexg@easyway.net Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 23:16:09 -0400 Subject: When is the next IRC meeting? Hi! Last week I posted a message asking when the next IRC meeting is. However, the question was ingnored by everyone. Will somebody kindly tell me the time and the date of the next IRC meeting? Alexander G. anxious to talk on IRC ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Alexander G. alexg@easyway.net []/\() ~ ~ City: New York :) J.M. Jarre |___________________________________________~ ~ Country: USA :) Laserdance |Are you still out there?! ~ ~ Planet: Earth :) Koto | J.M. Jarre (Rendez-vous Houston, 1986)~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Rodrigo Vivanco Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 23:37:26 -0300 Subject: Re: When is the next IRC meeting? At 23:16 17-08-1996 -0400, you wrote: > Hi! > >Last week I posted a message asking when the next IRC meeting is. However, >the question was ingnored by everyone. > >Will somebody kindly tell me the time and the date of the next IRC meeting? > > Alexander G. > anxious to talk on IRC ;) > Alex: Even though last week IRC was very quiet, this Sunday (August 18) we'll be there. Don't know how many, but I've already agreed with a group to meet at the usual time (That's between 19:00 and 20:00 GMT) if everything works okay. Be there! BTW. I'm arranging the Second Chilean Rendez-Vous for next Monday, August 19, 1996. Atendees: Two. Maybe we'll find other Jarre fans here soon ;) (I'm sure of that!) Lots of piscola and potito sandwiches will be served. Regards everyone! Rodrigo Vivanco If you don't know, Rodrigo can be found at broding@cmetnet.cmet.net or at his (still-under construction) personal WWW page at a great site, that's http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4580. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Brian Frick Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 23:59:30 -0400 Subject: To all of you Californians... Greetings!! Recently, a number of netters were ripped off by a contact in California who promised us goods which he did not deliver, after we sent money. Therefore, I am asking that anyone who knows, please post the addresses and telephone numbers of the San Diego and San Francisco Police departments. I would really appreciate it. I know it may seem far-fetched, but some of us lost big money. Help would be very much appreciated. Please respond to me privately. Sincerely, - -- Brian Frick Email: frickblj@westol.com WWW: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Album Now Playing: Deep Forest, World Mix "Make sure your dreams last longer than the night." - Soundtrack by Vangelis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Rodrigo Vivanco (by way of alexg@easyway.net) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 02:50:38 -0400 Subject: Re: When is the next IRC meeting? At 23:16 17-08-1996 -0400, you wrote: >BTW. I'm arranging the Second Chilean Rendez-Vous for next Monday, August >19, 1996. Atendees: Two. Maybe we'll find other Jarre fans here soon ;) (I'm >sure of that!) Lots of piscola and potito sandwiches will be served. Say what? Chilean Rendez-vous? Piscola? Sounds interesting. Maybe you could tell me more on how you can serve potito sandwiches over the net. Are you going to send tem as binary attachments? I just wanna make sure that my mail client can read and save piscola and potitos. ;) Tell me more about it. Alexander G. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Rodrigo Vivanco Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 03:05:09 -0300 Subject: Re: When is the next IRC meeting? At 02:50 18-08-1996 -0400, you wrote: >At 23:16 17-08-1996 -0400, you wrote: > > >>BTW. I'm arranging the Second Chilean Rendez-Vous for next Monday, August >>19, 1996. Atendees: Two. Maybe we'll find other Jarre fans here soon ;) (I'm The Second Chilean Reandez-Vous is making wave stonite. Alright. We are two friends who ocasionally meet via e-mail and now, for the second time, are going to have our very cool indoor Rendez-Vous (read. meeting) to enjoy some great times discussing about the old and new mailing lists, Jarre news, make some showoffs on our collections, and watch some videos. Wilso, that's my new friend, is now with his family at a northern Chile city, Arica. I'll catch him up at the airport "on tour" to campus at the other side of Chile. He'll be here, at Santiago, for all monday so we arranged to do the Second Rendez-Vous. >>sure of that!) Lots of piscola and potito sandwiches will be served. > >Say what? Chilean Rendez-vous? Piscola? > Piscola reads a mixture of Coke or Pepsi with a great heat-bringer called Pisco, a natural peruvian drink. Yikes! It even beats a good scotch! >Sounds interesting. Maybe you could tell me more on how you can serve >potito sandwiches over the net. Are you going to send tem as binary >attachments? They say potito sandwiches will be the next java-class object add-on or plug-in for Netscape 4.0! ;) >I just wanna make sure that my mail client can read and save piscola and >potitos. ;) > Just missed half of yer life, man. >Tell me more about it. > > Alexander G. > Hope to see ya at IRC today at 20:00 GMT at us.undernet.org channel #jmj. Regards everyone! ====================================================================== RODRIGO VIVANCO SOOTHSAYER DESIGNS & COMICS Av. Esquina Blanca 1245 Maipu - Santiago Telephone/Computer/Fax: +56-2-557-3860 CHILE Internet: broding@cmetnet.cmet.net ====================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: alexg@easyway.net Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 19:15:07 -0400 Subject: Latest IRC meeting Thank you all guys for being out there ;-) Hope to see you all next week. Same time, same place. Alexander G. Jarrologist P.S. Dr_Jones, it would be really nice if you would say something before you log off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Alexander G. alexg@easyway.net []/\() ~ ~ City: New York :) J.M. Jarre |___________________________________________~ ~ Country: USA :) Laserdance |Are you still out there?! ~ ~ Planet: Earth :) Koto | J.M. Jarre (Rendez-vous Houston, 1986)~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: johnh@es.ele.tue.nl (John van Houtert) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:56:19 +0200 (METDST) Subject: Is the list open yet? Hello everybody, A few days back I was urged to resubscribe at the new Jarre mailinglist. So I did but until now no messages appear! Am I the only one at the list now? Anyway, I will introduce myself briefly. I am currently doing a post-graduate course on the Eindhoven University of technology in the field of ASIC design. For this I do my practical work at Philips Semiconductors at their Systems Lab Eindhoven (blatant plug :-) ). In my pasttime I like to listen to electronic music, especially to Jarre and Vangelis. I am also trying to write my own music using my computer and soundcard. This has not been a great success so far (and it cannot be blamed on the computer). I have been subscribed to the Jarre list several times before but due to the ever decreasing signal/noise ratio I left after a while. I hope the signal/noise ratio will stay at a high level for a long time now. Greetings, John van Houtert - -- Check out my homepage! http://www.es.ele.tue.nl/johnh/ +--+ /\ /""\ | Or mail: John van Houtert, (johnh@es.ele.tue.nl (TU) | | / \ | | | or houtert@ehv.sc.philips.com (Philips)) +__+ /____\ \__/ | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ From: jarre@cs.uwp.edu (jarre mailing list) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:46:31 +0 Subject: Revolution Issue 9 released Really-From: Dave Freeman Hi there, Just to let everybody know that the new issue of Revolution is out now. This issue contains a review of the new Concert for Tolerance laserdisc, an article on the Digisequencer, reviews of the Patrick Rondat album Amphibia, Zoolook discography, Cartolina review and much more, with many great photos. The first batch of magazines have gone out this morning, so some people can expect them to arrive from tomorrow. Hope everybody likes the issue and looking forward into meeting many of you at Rendez-vous 96 in 12 days time. See Ya Dave +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Revolution - Jean-Michel Jarre Magazine + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dave Freeman - Editor + + 64 Oulton Crescent, Barking, Essex, IG11 9HF, England + + Tel/Fax: +44 (0)181 594 4126 + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Email: davef@argonaut.com + + Internet: http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/revmag/ + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info jarre" in the message. ------------------------------ End of jarre Digest V7 #1 ************************* To subscribe to jarre Digest, send the command: subscribe jarre-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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