From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:30:04 -0000 Sorry, but I am going to have to stick up for '45' again. I lay in bed last night and read the chapter about the Echo & Bunnymen/Teardrop Explodes era. A lot of it is nonsense (simultaneous gigs in Iceland/New Guinea) but by and large it is very good. Now, I'm not a big fan of either of those bands but it still made for good reading. Reminded me a lot of Nick Kent's 'The Dark Stuff' in the respect that I was reading about bands I had no interest in, but couldn't put the book down. Incidentally, Kent's book is an absolutely fantastic read should anyone be interested - all about Rock stars who just overdid it a little. While we're on the subject, anyone who hasn't read 'Head On' by Julian Cope really should do so. Crikey, I should write reviews for Amazon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) LUTT Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:33:23 +0000 Just a note about that mix - the quote at the start, about good guys and bad guys on Metalluna, doesn't actually come from "This Island Earth" (the film about aliens from Metalluna) - does anyone know where it did come from? Craig! Stuey & Michelle wrote: > IMHO, > The LUTT (As listened to in that mp3 url that was posted a week ago) > is a fan made compilation of bits of other mixes, not a real track. > I'm waiting to hear from the original source of the mp3 too, > no-one has posted on the list confirming a source yet. > But then again, not being a hard core collector I'm not in the loop > and don't know all about secret studio tapes and stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Pure Trance Date: 01 Mar 2000 09:51:10 GMT Hi all! I'm new to this list so I just wanted to say hello. I'm with the guys since '90 now and would like to know what some of my items would be worth... Can you help me there? LTTT pure trance 5 (KLF 008R), WTIL white label promo 1sided (KLF 004Y), WTIL w/l promo 2sided (again KLF 004Y), WTIL pure trance 1 (KLF 4R), KSTJ pure trance (KLF 010P) +poster KSTJ the remixes promo (KLF 010R) Thanks a lot, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "KLF fans Online" Subject: (klf) test Date: 01 Mar 2000 11:07:34 +0100 test # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) LUTT Date: 01 Mar 2000 12:22:11 -0000 > Just a note about that mix - the quote at the start, about good guys and bad guys > on Metalluna, doesn't actually come from "This Island Earth" (the film about > aliens from Metalluna) - does anyone know where it did come from? > > Craig! maybe thunderbirds or something like that? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 14:27:26 +0100 KLF bootleg cds are regularly discussed and sometimes made by people. I was wondering, how many kinds of bootleg cds are actually flooting around? I know of the existence of the following: 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (black sleeve bootleg) 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (red sleeve bootleg) Ultra Rare Trax The lost Sounds Of Mu 1 The lost Sounds Of Mu 2 Waiting Made@3am The White Room Original Motion Picture Soundtrack Space CD1 Space & Chill Out Are there more bootlegs besides these? Thanks PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 08:56:55 EST > KLF bootleg cds are regularly discussed and sometimes made by people. I was > wondering, how many kinds of bootleg cds are actually flooting around? I > know of the existence of the following: Depends on the definition of bootleg here. Are we counting pressed cds only or are we including cd-rs? If I made a cdr of rarities and handed them out to a bunch of list members would it become a sought after item such as URT? You could add Arkive 1 and 2 to the list. While these were cd-rs they did include material not presented anywhere else before. Not sure how Laz will deal with these new items. Would you include the Primal Megamix in the discog so people know a recording of it exists? Would you include a bunch of fan produced cdrs or just signifcant ones such as Arkive? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Who's the Gimp? Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:41:28 +0000 M-A-D wrote: > ...anyone > that knows Jon will also know that he doesn't like to do much promotion for > fear of things going tits up - ask yourselves why the foundry is never in > Time-Out. (Back me up here, Andy!!) Actually, I thought it was because he was never sober enough (and/or Peter Robinson was blacklisting you), but the principle remains the same. Seriously, though, Jonathan isn't the world's most agressive promoter - it's pretty much up to the people running whatever event is happening to promote it themselves (in this case M-A-D via this list). - Andy R. (who is a regular drinker in the New Foundry, in case anyone was now considering adding me to their conspiracy theories) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:09:41 +0100 >> KLF bootleg cds are regularly discussed and sometimes made by people. I was >> wondering, how many kinds of bootleg cds are actually flooting around? I >> know of the existence of the following: >Depends on the definition of bootleg here. Are we counting pressed cds only >or are we including cd-rs? Pressed cds and cdr's (as an example: Waiting and made@3am are cdr's) >If I made a cdr of rarities and handed them out >to a bunch of list members would it become a sought after item such as URT? I think it depends on how sought after or rare the music is. >You could add Arkive 1 and 2 to the list. While these were cd-rs they did >include material not presented anywhere else before. >Not sure how Laz will deal with these new items. Would you include the >Primal Megamix in the discog so people know a recording of it exists? Would >you include a bunch of fan produced cdrs or just signifcant ones such as >Arkive? You've got a point here. I think it would be important to include in the discog those which feature material which cannot or rarely be found on any other item so that you know, like you said, that a recording exists. Fan produced cdrs are, I think, only interesting if they feature rare or unknown material. PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 14:51:37 +0100 The 'KLF Arkive's. I have 1+2 but I believe there has been made more.. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 2:27 PM > > KLF bootleg cds are regularly discussed and sometimes made by people. I was > wondering, how many kinds of bootleg cds are actually flooting around? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:00:38 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 2:27 PM "real bootlegs" > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (black sleeve bootleg) > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (red sleeve bootleg) > Ultra Rare Trax > The lost Sounds Of Mu 1 > The lost Sounds Of Mu 2 > The White Room Original Motion Picture Soundtrack > Space CD1 > Space & Chill Out > Anthology 2 (Orb + KLF) "just cd-r" > Waiting > Made@3am > Barbican Performace > Scourge Of The Earth > Arkive Vol. 1 > Arkive Vol. 2 Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Norman Murray" Subject: FW: (klf) re: (KLF) 45 Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:07:53 -0000 > And how can someone born in south Africa and spent his life from > age 17 onwards in England claim to be Scottish? Ooooh you tread on dodgy waters when you ask how someone can claim to be Scottish if they live in a different country from their true orogin not everybody in the world is English and most people wouldn't want to be. Getting back on the KLF track and as this is a multicultural list, a burn is a small river. Norman -- Dr Norman Murray email:N.Murray@salford.ac.uk phone (+44)161 295 2922 Centre for Virtual Environments, Business House, University of Salford, Salford M5 4WT, UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 19:57:27 -0000 Depending on what you believe, you might wish to add "Waiting For The Rights Of Mu" to the "real bootleg" section. I've also found a CD-R bootleg of this release. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 23:06:39 -0000 > Are there more bootlegs besides these? Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. All of these excellent fan compiled CDRs came from the same source AFAIK: This Is What The KLF Are About - The MP3 Collection Vols. 1 - 4 Ultimate Video Collection (2 CDRs) 1997 What The Fuck Is Going On - The Odd Sounds Of MU Vol. 1 I personally think it's most interesting to hear about the "proper" CD pressings, as they are collectable items in their own right, they're likely to have infiltrated further (through shop sales, then through CDR copies), plus anyone can put out a semi-original CDR so they're likely to be increasingly numerous. As a music fan though I like to have all the info I can on *any* bootleg regardless of source. Lazio's discography has been excellent in that regard, in the rare instances where I've encountered a bootleg Lazio doesn't list his comprehensive track names/mix names/track times info is usually enough to get a firm idea of what the material is. Thanks Lazio for one of the best disocography resources on the web! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:26:45 PST You guys are forgetting that new "In Store Sampler" 12". If anyone knows where to get it, or has an extra, please sell it to me. I'm not really into boots but this one is pretty cool, and it's on vinyl. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 18:36:28 EST > You guys are forgetting that new "In Store Sampler" 12". > > If anyone knows where to get it, or has an extra, please sell it to me. I'm > not really into boots but this one is pretty cool, and it's on vinyl. I think I saw it on GEMM the other day. But all it's tracks are taken directly from URT... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds Date: 01 Mar 2000 20:46:24 +0200 > "real bootlegs" > > > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (black sleeve bootleg) > > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (red sleeve bootleg) > > Ultra Rare Trax > > The lost Sounds Of Mu 1 > > The lost Sounds Of Mu 2 > > The White Room Original Motion Picture Soundtrack > > Space CD1 > > Space & Chill Out > > Anthology 2 (Orb + KLF) + Waiting For The Rites Of Mu. > "just cd-r" > > > Waiting > > Made@3am > > Barbican Performace > > Scourge Of The Earth > > Arkive Vol. 1 > > Arkive Vol. 2 If I wasn't so lazy I'd list all Lars Nellemann's cd-r's... there is a lot. Byyeee! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Date: 02 Mar 2000 08:19:01 +0100 (CET) Hi, I found this page, see records of JAMs and KLF: http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LJAMs%2C+The http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LKLF%2C+The -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: Re: (klf) hardknox Date: 02 Mar 2000 19:53:26 +1100 Gregor John Aitchison wrote: > > Hi, > I was at the Moby concert in Glasgow at the weekend , the > support ban had sampled some MU MUs for one of their songs. Not to mention that they were throwing Monopoly money into the crowd while they were playing it... at least here in Sydney. > The band are called Hardknox, they are alright but the two female > strippers they had on stage were fantastic, I think their album is > out soon but I wont be buying it. It's been out for a good while now, and they've had singles out years ago. In case anyone doesn't know and does care, this band is the current project for former Beats International singer Lindy Layton. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Date: 02 Mar 2000 19:54:39 +1100 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Sorry, but I am going to have to stick up for '45' again. I lay in bed last > night and read the chapter about the Echo & Bunnymen/Teardrop Explodes era. > A lot of it is nonsense (simultaneous gigs in Iceland/New Guinea) Haven't seen 45 down here yet, but I wonder about this; in Repossessed, Balfe tells Cope that Bill's plan was to have the Bunnymen in Iceland and the Teardrops in New Zealand at the same time, in order for him to ride the leyline. Could it be that Bill changed the locations just to show up Julian? The more likely scenario would be that Julian didn't remember properly after all this time, except for the fact that he notes that it went wrong because they were still in Australia at the moment that the Bunnymen were in Iceland, and hadn't hopped the Tasman. Not that New Guinea is that far off, but New Zealand is a hell of a lot closer... Anyone be arsed to offer an opinion? In case not, here's a question about one of the above personages: how do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular pronunciation. However, in the Blur bio 3852 Days (insert correct figure), the interview transcripts often render the subjects references to him as Balfey, as though this pronunciation is just a common, affectionate nickname type thing. So what's the deal? Balfie or Balf? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:00:10 +0000 Thanks for that, he said briefly delurking. I think this has got to be one of the great transcription errors of all time:- "I Get This Feeling", Jackie Wilson.' Fits with the ABBA theme, though. (For those of you too young to remember the LATE and VERY GREAT Jackie Wilson, the words being groped for are 'the Sweetest'.) What is it about TOTP and Jackie Wilson? Years later, they illustrated Dexy's Midnight Runners' 'Jackie Wilson Says' with a picture of _Jocky_ Wilson, the unphotogenic darts player. Nigel Armstrong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: (klf) sampling Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:20:33 +0100 When JAMMs sampled ABBA's 'Dancing Queen', they were threatened with lawsuits to hell and back.... When they sampled Whitney Houston in 'Whitney Joins the JAMMs', nothing happened!! Why?? Why weren't Bill & Jimmy sued like the case with ABBA? Is it me there hasn't read the FAQ proberly, og did they get away with it?? - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:02:42 +0000 Damn, this was the mail I meant to reply to. Just to be consistent: I have always pronounced it Bayf, by analogy with Ralph. Nigel Armstrong I'm sorry. It's early. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) hello hello ? Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:36:02 -0000 hi all, soz to bomb the list like this, but it is to your advantage, honest.... could Dj Dominion drop me an email asap just to confirm his postal address and email address at the moment ? Dj D - you'll know what i'm on about ! Thanks in advance laters neil The Kause - lurking patiently beneath the murky waters of list-placid ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 02:45:05 -0700 > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am sure it is a genuine release. Not sure what I think of it though, a little bit too much Martin Sheen in 'Apocolypse Now' for my liking. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:51:36 +0000 >> Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. >Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The >record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a >bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am sure it is a >genuine release. As discussed at the time, this was a clever piece of 'marketing' by the bootleggers. They sent the disc unsolicited to various shops and distributors. It looked like a genuine small label release but it was unlicensed by the copyright holders, so definitely a bootleg. The KLF would never put anything out as the 'Kopyright Liberation Front', nor use the graphics style of the cover (wrong typeface, colour combination etc). And the limited edition number (3333) is a load of bollocks as well. Nigel Armstrong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:08:32 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 03:11:35 -0700 Speaking of odd bootlegs, does anyone recall a 12" put out by Fierce records of Swansea around the time of the first JAMMS releases. It purported to be by the JAMMS themselves but it clearly wasn't. In fact it was appalling. However, I got a copy (pretty pricey as I recall) and idly wondered if it is a sought after item in any way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: FW: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:14:53 -0000 Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] wrote: > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am > sure it is a > genuine release. Not sure what I think of it though, a little > bit too much > Martin Sheen in 'Apocolypse Now' for my liking. um, its complicated... there are various stories around the release (which in same ways fits so well with the KLF-thingy it makes it look more like a real release :) ). please someone correct me if wrong... Firstly, so retailers have said that they had it supplied to them whether they ordered it or not... it was just packaged up with some other orders. Secondly no one knws where the tracks have come from, they don't match up with the videos that they pertain to come from and some list members with good ears say they can hear the splices etc on the tracks.. and this suggests amateur production. it has also been said that one of bill or jimmy wasn't happy with the release, of which they knew nothing about, and was gonna get the law onto the record label... some other people suspected that one of the lads might have wanted some money for a project, but didn't wanna / couldn't release it under normal means (copywrite? contracts? ) so they did this and then made a fuss to put the heat off him.... um, what else... oh someone else can continue, but thats the various stories i can remember... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) KLF in France Date: 02 Mar 2000 02:24:15 PST Hi all, Nobody in France remember KLF, exept DJ and people in the electronic music. But for all that know them, it's a genius group. It's because of it that Pills has covered 'WTIL' in his last album 'Musicsoldia' and Superfunk has sampled 'OK everybody lie down on the floor and keep calm' in their album 'Hold Up' (track 9 'Hold Up'). cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:28:20 +1300 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > bootleg. Well first off, there's a spelling mistake above. Its actually Waiting for the _Rights_ of Mu, which is a major clue, as in Echo Beach, the record label that put it out never got permission to do it. Its NOT just a spelling mistake on behalf of the german who run Echo Beach, because Rites of Mu is spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover. Secondly, the is WFTROM a bootleg or not has not been decided for sure one way or the other on the list as far as I can remember. cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:42:13 +1300 Adam Hauner wrote: > I found this page, see records of JAMs and KLF: > > http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LJAMs%2C+The > http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LKLF%2C+The What the Fuck is going on? Some people obviously have much more time than sense. Weird. Still, I want to come up with some more KLF samples so they can be boosted up the list. Anal obsessive obviously. -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (klf) Mancentral down shortly Date: 02 Mar 2000 14:11:19 +0000 (GMT) Hi all, This is just to let you know that as of some point tomorrow, Mancentral will be down and unavailable for an indeterminate amount of time. It will hopefully be only a few days, but may well be several weeks The site has undergone some changes recently, probably with more to come. http://klf.life.eu.org Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:08:32 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 15:55:20 -0000 > Speaking of odd bootlegs, does anyone recall a 12" put out by Fierce records > of Swansea around the time of the first JAMMS releases. It purported to be > by the JAMMS themselves but it clearly wasn't. In fact it was appalling. > However, I got a copy (pretty pricey as I recall) and idly wondered if it is > a sought after item in any way. Never seen it, but remember reading about it in Record Collector *many* years ago, and of course on the web since. If we're doing vinyl, there's another release which is similar in status to Waiting For The Rites Of Mu, and that's the double sided 7" vinyl repressing of 3AM External vs Extreme Noise Terror. I bought mine at a major record store (HMV I think) in central London, but I believe it is a boot. However there has been some suggestion that the KLF pressed it up to give to ENT as payment. (That's assuming there was only one rerelease of this track, the record is at my parents' house and I've not checked the catalogue number). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Date: 02 Mar 2000 15:09:09 -0000 > In case not, here's a question about one of the above personages: how > do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill > sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular > pronunciation. However, in the Blur bio 3852 Days (insert correct > figure), the interview transcripts often render the subjects references > to him as Balfey, as though this pronunciation is just a common, > affectionate nickname type thing. Easy I'd have thought, David Balfe where Balfe is pronounced "Balf". Nickname "Balfie" (like "Smithie" for John Smith, "Jonesey" for Fred Jones, etc.). Quite common in the UK, and I thought quite common in Aus too... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 15:26:46 -0000 > > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > > bootleg. > > Well first off, there's a spelling mistake above. Its actually Waiting for the > _Rights_ of Mu, which is a major clue, as in Echo Beach, the record label that > put it out never got permission to do it. That's a nice idea, not heard it before (or forgot it). Hmm... However, I thought Echo Beach were adamant that it was official. > Its NOT just a spelling mistake on behalf of the german who run Echo Beach, > because Rites of Mu is spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover. That it's spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover doesn't prove a thing by itself, it could still be a typo. I can easily mistype a word in one sentence and then get it right in the next. Even easier to do when the words are interchangeable in terms of pronunciation but not meaning. Of course if it is just a typo, that is the kind of amateurish thing bootleggers do - except Echo Beach were previously a legitimate record label! Man I give up, you should have let my original (correct) assertion be ;-) > Secondly, the is WFTROM a bootleg or not has not been decided for sure one way > or the other on the list as far as I can remember. Right, and how does that statement clash with my original statement that the release is "*generally considered* to be a bootleg"? :) The story has been better explained by other people's followups, but on the evidence my feeling and I believe that of most others on the list is that it is a bootleg (with my second favourite theory being that this is a KLF sanctioned "official bootleg", a way of making a crafty few quid). It's not been decided for sure, which is why I said "generally considered" :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:54:51 +0000 (GMT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hmmm, I don't recall saying it was all lies, but that it was PROBABLY all lies. This is confirmed at some points in the text by Bill himself. Accept the contradictions. As for whether or not certain things are real, I can confirm that the tunnel (assume you mean the one in Bad Wisdom with the gates which opened by themselves), is most definitely real. I have been through it (them, there's two) myself, on the way to Nordkapp, and on the return leg and have observed the large hydraulic gates. I even have the photos to prove this (would put them on the web, but my site keeps disappearing) IMHO, with "45", Bill is trying to go through one of those life-defining exercises, which he always seems to be doing (c.f. "The Man", 2K and that Radio 1 "Story of Pop" interview). I concur the prose may appear contradictory and rambling at times, and I also think that Bad Wisdom was a better read. I had a skim thru it in Waterstones the other day over a coffee, and again found myself skipping Zed's bits in order to follow the story progression. As ever, I watch and wait with avid awareness. BTW anyone wanting to enhance their kollection with a signed and numbered piece of artwork by Bill should check out the current Mancentral discussion lists :) Rgds, NIk >NIk, one of the elder list members, advised me not to beleive any of the >stuff in 45, as it was all lies. What's what Drummond claims about most >of >the stuff he writes and is written about him. >My thang is this. How much of it is made up and how much of it is real >and >how much of it is in between. Does that tunnel really exist? Did he >really >head up the congo. Was he really born in Butterworth CP or was that >really >his name. And how can someone born in south Africa and spent his life >from >age 17 onwards in England claim to be Scottish? >Ooh, and has anyone noticed that he turns into Victor Meldrew in many of >the stories? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:58:19 +0100 How well known is KLF in other countries? In Denmark they are fairly known, however not as 2K og JAMMs, just The KLF. It's my feeling that most people here know of the more popular tracks (Stadium House Trilogy, J&A and A:WTIL), ie. only the tip of the iceberg. However, I'm doing what I can to spread the word :-) - Thomas ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 11:24 AM > > Hi all, > > Nobody in France remember KLF, exept DJ and people in the electronic music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France Date: 02 Mar 2000 17:46:42 +0100 (CET) On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Thomas Helvard wrote: > How well known is KLF in other countries? In Denmark they are fairly known, > however not as 2K og JAMMs, just The KLF. It's my feeling that most people > here know of the more popular tracks (Stadium House Trilogy, J&A and > A:WTIL), ie. only the tip of the iceberg. In Czech Republic is situation same (in czech record stores was only The White Room album)... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:51:20 +0000 (GMT) > As for whether or not certain things are real, I can confirm that the > tunnel (assume you mean the one in Bad Wisdom with the gates which opened > by themselves), is most definitely real. I have been through it (them, > there's two) myself, on the way to Nordkapp, and on the return leg and have > observed the large hydraulic gates. I even have the photos to prove this > (would put them on the web, but my site keeps disappearing) I thought the tunnel mentioned in the previous mail was the one near his former home in Scotland (the one he finally went back to see if it really did exist on a drive back from Ireland. I intend to check this out using the references in the book, since I'm in that area from time to time, and my fiancee knows it well. An OS map may be useful. Or perhaps he did mean the Norwegian one after all. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:04:14 -0000 > (For those of you too young to remember the LATE and VERY GREAT Jackie Wilson, > the words being groped for are 'the Sweetest'.) What is it about TOTP and > Jackie Wilson? Years later, they illustrated Dexy's Midnight Runners' 'Jackie > Wilson Says' with a picture of _Jocky_ Wilson, the unphotogenic darts player. As far as I know, the bands themselves decide how they will be artistically presented on Top Of The Pops (fairly obviously, that's why the KLF managed some great performances on the show). Dexy's probably thought it would be a laugh to use a picture of Jocky Wilson, and they're right aren't they? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France Date: 02 Mar 2000 12:10:06 EST > > How well known is KLF in other countries? Here Stateside I rarely find anyone who's heard of them. At best via 3am Eternal (and even then they only recall a song that went "KLF! Aha Aha!") But there was once this older guy (late 50s) who sat right behind me at work - backs were practically against each other - who really enjoyed whatever music I was playing. He loved it when I got into my Doo Wop phases as he used to sing it on the street corners of NY. Anyway, he really started to enjoy KLF. Even gave him a tape of White Room and Chill Out which he told me he'd always listen to on the way home. He'd hum Build a Fire and Justified and Ancient and could always tell when I put something of theirs on. He said they had a certain "sound" you could always pick out. He could even hear rip offs from other bands (there's a St. Entine track which sounds a lot like WTIL). Anyway, he passed on last year, but I'll always be amused by the thought of hearing this 57 year old guy quieting singing along to Go To Sleep. -paul just wanted to add that i still get bummed out whenever i hear _closer you are_ by the channels... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) ambient track Date: 02 Mar 2000 17:57:38 GMT Hi! I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main characteristics: -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time -very famous guitar sample (U2???) - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples Help desperately needed!!! Thx, DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France Date: 02 Mar 2000 18:01:49 -0000 Nothing to do with France per se, but it's interesting how (a) the KLF are remembered by most ordinary folk as a good but not spectacular hit-making factory, but (b) were highly regarded by the dance community for the original version of What Time Is Love? (Just look at the booklet with Trance Europe Express, for example, to see how many dance luminaries name-checked that track in their influences). Chill Out is also much respected by those in the know (and for me is still just about the best ambient house album ever). The Shamen are a similar phenomenon in my opinion. Highly regarded for their Synergy tour, their innovative fusion of dance and indie, and the excellent Progen and Hyperreal singles, they're remembered by most people for Ebenezeer Goode and Mr C's "cheesy" rapping. (That's not a flame against Mr C, BTW). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 18:07:09 -0000 > For what it's worth, I've asked a contact who knows the chap who runs Echo > Beach to ask him what the deal was with this release. If I find anything > out, I'll post to the list. That would be wonderful, as it's always been a bit of a mystery :) I bought it thinking it was at least semi-official, and then the consensus changed. Would be nice to sort it once for all. > Echo Beach still are a legitimate record label though, despite this > potentially "shady" release. Maybe it was all a big cock up then? All I can say is that it was almost definately Echo Beach and not an imposter, as the release was listed on their web site. I think we should be told the truth! :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:08:25 -0000 Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:11:38 -0700 Bear in mind that for many people the klf will exist as 'that band' the Timelords who had a hit with....can't even bring myself to write it. If only we could change history. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track Date: 02 Mar 2000 18:23:38 -0000 > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > characteristics: > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples The cock crow and the vocal samples suggest almost certainly that it's A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You), usually referred to as AHEGPBTRFTCOTU or AHEGPB for obvious reasons! I reckon it's probably the glorious Peel Sessions version, recorded by Jimi Cauty and LX Dee in late '89. Vintage stuff and absolutely brilliant. As for the guitar sample, Pink Floyd???? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: (klf) KLF in Sweden Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:30:14 PST In Sweden klf is quite well known also for there hit doktorin the tardis. There was also a radio program named popkorn special that explaind aboute everything aboute klf. Also the are quite well known after the incident with ABBA :-) i got the program on tape if there is anyone that want it i can make mp3 of it. (Who ever got my other mail, SORRY it disaperd i cyberspace) >How well known is KLF in other countries? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Go To Sleep Date: 02 Mar 2000 19:25:12 GMT Hi! Does anyone know a link for an MP3 of Go To Sleep? Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Go To Sleep Date: 02 Mar 2000 19:25:12 GMT Hi! Does anyone know a link for an MP3 of Go To Sleep? Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track Date: 02 Mar 2000 19:31:38 +0000 At 18:23 2.3.2000 +0000, Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know >what's > > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > > characteristics: > > > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples > >The cock crow and the vocal samples suggest almost certainly that it's A >Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The >Ultraworld (Loving You), usually referred to as AHEGPBTRFTCOTU or AHEGPB for >obvious reasons! > >I reckon it's probably the glorious Peel Sessions version, recorded by Jimi >Cauty and LX Dee in late '89. Vintage stuff and absolutely brilliant. get that cd! 43 minutes of brilliance :) The Orb: Peel Sessions [Oct 1991] radio session album LP: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRLP 118) CS: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRMC 118) CD: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRCD 118) CD: 1992 US (Strange Fruit/Dutch East India; DE 18119-2) [11 Feb 92; track 2 index moved] CD: 199? RU (Strange Fruit; PMT 002 {ORB - MPT 002}) [bootleg; redone back insert] 20:10 A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain... (loving you) 10:00 Back Side of The Moon (tranquility lunar orbit) 12:20 Into The Fourth Dimension (essenes in starlight) ["Pulsating Brain" rec. 3 Dec 89, mix by Jimmy Cauty] ["Back Side"/"Fourth Dimension" rec. 2 Oct 90, mix by Thrash] Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net w00p! :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) sampling list Date: 02 Mar 2000 12:10:42 -0800 (PST) omigod i remember seeing this list a loooooong time ago, like 2wo years ago. theres so many samples i can think of that arent there (or at least werent last time i checked) like Death In Vegas sampling Woodstock, Weird Al sampling the Simpsons, etc. did the JAMMS really sample the Beasties in the Top of the Pops thing? cool! bye! "That's the saltiest thing I ever ate! And I once ate a heaping bowl of salt!" Futurama PHIZZO ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track Date: 02 Mar 2000 22:23:43 -0500 (EST) [i'm sure this has already been answered, but...] On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, DJ Kuta wrote: > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > characteristics: > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples sounds a lot like the orb's "a huge ever-growing pulsating brain that rules from the centre of the ultraworld", whichever version is on the first peel session. the guitar sample is pink floyd, btw ("shine on"). * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# icq 5562209 hush - may i ask you all for silence? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) sampling list Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:18:01 +0100 Haha, I'm brand spanking new here (hi Mute ;-) and already a question I can answer. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson [mailto:techno_gpig@yahoo.com] > > did the JAMMS really sample the Beasties in the Top of > the Pops thing? cool! > They certainly did sample the Beasties..... well, they sampled a bit of a TOTP broadcast that included the Beasties. You get the the introduction from, I think, Radio 1 DJ Steve Wright, and then the 'Kick it!' opening from "Fight for your right...." Other tracks that crop up include, Freddie Mercury - "The Great Pretender" and The Mission - "Severina". Plenty of other stuff too, but I don't remember it all off the top of my head. Isn't there an MP3 available via Mancentral? -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (klf) sampling list Date: 03 Mar 2000 09:33:27 -0000 >They certainly did sample the Beasties..... well, they sampled a >bit of a TOTP broadcast that included the Beasties. You get the >the introduction from, I think, Radio 1 DJ Steve Wright, and then >the 'Kick it!' opening from "Fight for your right...." >Other tracks that crop up include, Freddie Mercury - "The Great >Pretender" and The Mission - "Severina". Not to mention the sound of a tube train approaching and thw 'mind the gap' warning. I always felt that this was Waterloo station, not sure why. Anyone know any better? Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does he have any stuff available elsewhere? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) sampling list Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:54:36 +0100 > From: Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] > Not to mention the sound of a tube train approaching and thw > 'mind the gap' warning. I always felt that this was Waterloo > station, not sure why. Anyone know any better? I thought it was one stop north, in other words Embankment. I don't remember there being a warning at Waterloo, at least not when I was a regular 15 years ago. I wouldn't bet a whole lot of money on it though. > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side > 2 of 1987, does he have any stuff available elsewhere? Sorry, don't know. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a9457399@wlv.ac.uk Subject: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:57:59 +0000 Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since their demise? Wild guitar, Fantastic dance music, Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) And ABBA Samples! Truly the next best thing! If You Buy their Records Your Life Will Be Better; you will Feel It like a Hammer To The Heart! This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 11:38:37 GMT Hi! Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? Thanks, DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Date: 03 Mar 2000 12:48:30 +0100 > > In case not, here's a question about one of the above > personages: how > > do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill > > sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular > > pronunciation. > > Easy I'd have thought, David Balfe where Balfe is pronounced "Balf". > > Nickname "Balfie" (like "Smithie" for John Smith, "Jonesey" > for Fred Jones, > etc.). Definitely "Balf". Balfey is just a nickname. Check the who's who (it's called 'Chunky Thighs' IIRC) in '45' and/or 'From The Shores Of Lake Placid' where Bill states 'only ever referred to as Balfey' or words to that effect. Copey would probably have called him lots of other (unpleasant) things though ;-) -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) Tamperer Date: 04 Mar 2000 01:28:53 +1300 Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since their demise? Wild guitar, Fantastic dance music, Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) And ABBA Samples! Truly the next best thing! If You Buy their Records Your Life Will Be Better; you will Feel It like a Hammer To The Heart! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHGGGG NO foul music yuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 03 Mar 2000 14:59:07 -0000 > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > their demise? Oh my Gawd!! GASP!! > Wild guitar, > Fantastic dance music, > Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) > And ABBA Samples! > > Truly the next best thing! They're hardly any different from all the other Europop twaddle, so how could they be "the first ever to come close"? Tamperer are yet another awful/average (delete according to taste) management-created bloodsucking creatively null bunch of models and stage school tossers. I have nothing particularly against the Tamperer but comparing them with the KLF?! Sheesh... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) Date: 03 Mar 2000 15:59:13 +0000 On the subject of things in the book being real, the directions to walk to 'The Village' from Dagenham Heathway tube are very incomplete, but accurate - I know because my mother-in-law lives about a minute's walk from there. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 12:04:17 EST > Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? Since when did information on this surface? There certainly isn't any mention of it in the Discog... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 19:28:39 -0000 > > Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? > > Since when did information on this surface? There certainly isn't any > mention of it in the Discog... There is - right at the end in the "Announced But Unreleased" section. I don't know anything more about it than that I'm afraid. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list Date: 03 Mar 2000 19:35:14 -0000 > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does > he have any stuff available elsewhere? > IIRC, he was a friend of Jimmy who did the clarinet playing on 1987, and when he was at trancentral one day Bill heard him singing and asked him to do a track on the album. (something like that anyway... It may say on mancentral somewhere... It even gave his name but I can't remember it) But I doubt he has anything else available because he wasn't a professional singer, and maybe not even a professional clarinet player.. Dunno... Also, there was some talk on the list recently about someone wanting to maintain the sample list again... What happened to that? - Over and out - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list Date: 03 Mar 2000 20:53:24 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Twilight Isotope wrote: > IIRC, he was a friend of Jimmy who did the clarinet playing on 1987, and > when he was at trancentral one day Bill heard him singing and asked him to > do a track on the album. (something like that anyway... It may say on > mancentral somewhere... It even gave his name but I can't remember it) > But I doubt he has anything else available because he wasn't a professional > singer, and maybe not even a professional clarinet player.. Dunno... 1987 The 45 Edits (Liner Notes): ... Kicks off with 'Me Ru Con' sung by Zuy Khiem, a Vietnamese friend of ours. If you are lucky enough to have the 7-inch version of it you'll have the English translation on the sleeve. We never planned to have this on the LP, he just sang this while the tapes were running when he was down in the studio doing the bits of tenor sax and clarinet that are on the other tracks. ... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 03 Mar 2000 19:33:53 +0000 (GMT) On Fri 03 Mar, a9457399@wlv.ac.uk wrote: > > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > their demise? > > Wild guitar, > Fantastic dance music, > Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) > And ABBA Samples! Everyone else seems to have disagreed with you, and while they aren't the _only_ group to be worth mentioning since the last proper KLF record, I do think you have a point- the Tamperer music that I've heard (the 3 singles) has all been good stadium house music. I don't believe they have the anarchistic outlook or the same sampling ethos as the KLF or bands like PWEI did, but what they do, they do well, and it's catchy and listenable in the same way that made tracks like "Justified And Ancient" or "Last Train To Trancentral" cross over into appealing to pop fans. There's a nice energy there. I haven't become devoted yet, bought the album or whatever, but I'd definitely give it a listen. They might not seem 'credible' to some KLF fans, but that's your own problem... :-) I thought the same about the Cuban Boys record- catchy and slick. Since the KLF, I'd also mention: On the nearly-credible side: Apollo 440 (esp. first album), Chemical Brothers (second album non-single tracks), Lionrock, some Fluke. On the 'most people just laugh' side: Sash! (some singles), earlier U96 (second/third album), N-Trance (first album only). With artists such as U96 or Sash!, just because they've released one or two less impressive 'novelty'/commercial records, doesn't mean that all of their musical output should be written off. By that token people would have never given the KLF a second chance after "Doctorin' The Tardis"... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) tampara Date: 03 Mar 2000 13:57:06 -0800 (PST) well being in america the only Tamperer thing ive heard was that damn "chimney" song and yeah, i think its total crap. the thing is, a lot of the KLf stuff does kinda sound cheezy and generic, its just if you know the story behind it, and you listen closer, its reaaaalllly funny. like "I Gotta CD" (the 7" edit on LSOM2 i'm using as a reference point here) the first time i heard it i thought "my god, this is dumb" but the next time i realized "this is so over-the-top silly that its impossible to not like this!" come on, "It's good to go in our UFO"? crazy. i still laugh (or at least smile) every time i listen to it ;) and i dont even know the story behind it (if there is one) anyway, i still thank Tamperer sux. then again, thats still only off of one song, thats all anyone in America has heard by them (for the most part) so who knows. anyway, i'm gone now. bye! PAUL (i'm dropping my silly pseudonym after this email ;) ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:12:06 -0600 ...from the Orb discography. I don't think it's listed in the KLF one, but it's been a while since that's been updated. Alex Paterson - remixes, collaborations, production work [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] 8:38 It's Grim Up North [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 17:32:04 EST > [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] > 8:38 It's Grim Up North > [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] The one on URT? Nahhh, sounds like a different recording with someone else doing the vocals than a *remix* of the single... There's not much really different about it... IMO. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) tampara Date: 04 Mar 2000 01:02:47 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson wrote: > anyway, i still thank Tamperer sux. then again, thats > still only off of one song, thats all anyone in > America has heard by them (for the most part) so who > knows. Tamperer (featuring Maya) had two big hits in last (or maybe one year before), one (Feel It) was remake of early Michael Jackson (or Jackson 5) and second (If You Buy... ) was remake of Madonna's song. Sound of both remakes was moved to europop (you can read is as 'crap' *grin*) and both was just for dancing... nothing more... BTW Am I right, if I see small hard guitar relation with Eskimos & Egypt (techno)? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN Date: 04 Mar 2000 00:57:05 GMT > > [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > > [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > > 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] > > 8:38 It's Grim Up North > > [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] > >The one on URT? Nahhh, sounds like a different recording with someone else >doing the vocals than a *remix* of the single... There's not much really >different about it... IMO. You're possibly right. I didn't mean the 028T but the 014T... DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: (klf) Re: waterloo Date: 03 Mar 2000 14:07:11 -0500 > > Waterloo station eh? abba connection? ah, nevermind... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:37:51 -0600 They call it something like the "for love not money remix" on URT. I'm not sure where the hell they came up with that. Vocals are by Pete Wylie of Wah. I don't think this sounds like an Orb remix either -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:32 PM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 03 Mar 2000 21:29:01 -0000 > Everyone else seems to have disagreed with you, and while they aren't > the _only_ group to be worth mentioning since the last proper KLF > record, I do think you have a point- the Tamperer music that I've heard > (the 3 singles) has all been good stadium house music. I don't believe > they have the anarchistic outlook or the same sampling ethos as the KLF > or bands like PWEI did, but what they do, they do well, and it's catchy > and listenable in the same way that made tracks like "Justified And > Ancient" or "Last Train To Trancentral" cross over into appealing to pop > fans. There's a nice energy there. I haven't become devoted yet, bought > the album or whatever, but I'd definitely give it a listen. They might > not seem 'credible' to some KLF fans, but that's your own problem... :-) Even putting aside the other very important facets of the KLF and just analyzing the music, to me they are not comparable. I'm probably not clever enough to exactly put my finger on the reasons, but I think one is the total lack of psychedelic qualities. Pretty much everything Bill & Jimmy ever released as the KLF was slightly trippy, and had an identifiable kinship with rave and acid house. It wasn't _just_ pop, it was music with its foot in the underground, sampled, looped and f*cked for a pop audience. All I see with the Tamperer is cynical chartbound music, there's none of the punk spirit, no air of rebelliousness, and nothing mind-expanding or psychedelic about it all. > I thought the same about the Cuban Boys record- catchy and slick. Since > the KLF, I'd also mention: The Cuban Boys would be closer, on a purely musical level. Still some catching up to do with the KLF's extra-curriculur activities, of course :) > On the nearly-credible side: Apollo 440 (esp. first album), Chemical > Brothers (second album non-single tracks), Lionrock, some Fluke. I've been told off in the past for making this comparison, but I think Altern-8 were *comparable* if far less important. And one of your fave bands Stuart, the Utahs, deserve a mention. Plus of course The Shamen, who, for me, were the nearest thing to the KLF (probably more credible on the dance scene but less successful than the KLF)... > On the 'most people just laugh' side: Sash! (some singles), earlier U96 > (second/third album), N-Trance (first album only). > > With artists such as U96 or Sash!, just because they've released one or > two less impressive 'novelty'/commercial records, doesn't mean that all > of their musical output should be written off. By that token people > would have never given the KLF a second chance after "Doctorin' The > Tardis"... I have to agree that if a band came along with something like Doctorin' now I'd maybe not appreciate it as much as The Timelords, possibly would even write it off. But the Timelords were amongst the first to release a record like that (not the very first, IIRC) - PLUS there was a very identifiable sense of humour there. Most of the chart Europop acts are _deadly serious_ about what they do - they think they're artists for God's sake! :) [I don't dislike all modern pop dance music by the way, I just think they are mostly rather pale imititaions *in comparison with the KLF*] Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 03 Mar 2000 21:48:21 PST >I've been told off in the past for making this comparison, but Ithink >Altern-8 were *comparable* if far less important. And one ofyour >fave >bands >Stuart, the Utahs, deserve a mention. Plus of course The Shamen,who, >for >me, were the nearest thing to the KLF (probably more credible on the >dance >scene but less successful than the KLF)... I remember back in '92 or so seeing a picture of Altern8 with masks on (this was about the time they remixed Music For Boys by Pet Shop Boys) and I was wondering if they were in fact the KLF in disguise. They didn't really sound like KLF but had that prankster air for sure. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 04 Mar 2000 22:20:42 +1300 > write it off. But the Timelords were amongst the first to release a record > like that (not the very first, IIRC) - PLUS there was a very identifiable > sense of humour there. The video for Doctorin' was hilarious. They were definately taking the piss. Bizarrely, I remember that John Peel played Doctorin' before it was first released. John Peel!!!! Now he wouldn't have played it if there wasn't some merit in it eh? cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN Date: 04 Mar 2000 12:52:44 GMT I don't know where this "for love nor money" title's from, either. Can't be the original title - too ridiculous for a KLF track! Apart from that most of the mixes on URT have the funniest names, don't they? Pretty creative bootleggers! :) So does anyone have the KLF 014T now??? I have heard one person owns it... can anyone confirm this?? Kade >They call it something like the "for love not money remix" on URT. I'm not >sure where the hell they came up with that. Vocals are by Pete Wylie of >Wah. I don't think this sounds like an Orb remix either ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Charts Date: 04 Mar 2000 14:08:58 +0100 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1990.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1991.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1992.html http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/music/1992.html http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/music/1993.html -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 04 Mar 2000 15:48:12 -0000 > > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > > their demise? > > Oh my Gawd!! GASP!! > I have nothing particularly against the Tamperer but comparing them with the > KLF?! Sheesh... who's the tamperer? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list Date: 04 Mar 2000 16:13:22 -0000 > 1987 The 45 Edits (Liner Notes): > Kicks off with 'Me Ru Con' sung by Zuy Khiem, a Vietnamese friend of > ours. If you are lucky enough to have the 7-inch version of it you'll that guy is on a sleeve sticker of KLF 004T that i have, says something like "Zuy Khiem & Scott Piering Appearing ", but did he play on WTIL pure trance? hmm, i better give the track a listen again.. Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) 02_LoveTimeKiss Date: 04 Mar 2000 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) Here we go again. http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/02_LoveTimeKiss.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) sorry... Date: 04 Mar 2000 15:07:34 +0100 apologies everybody... the links to videos at http://rezist.com/djd now work properly. slightly embarrassed Dj Dominion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@my24.com Subject: Samples List... :-| (Was (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people]) Date: 04 Mar 2000 19:24:05 -0000 On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:00:10 +0000 Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com wrote: > >Thanks for that, he said briefly delurking. I think this has got to be one of >the great transcription errors of all time:- >"I Get This Feeling", Jackie Wilson.' > >Fits with the ABBA theme, though. :-| I submitted that thing years ago, and I hope the lousy transcription won't follow me for the rest of my life... :-) Regards, Asbjorn -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://NamePlanet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock Date: 04 Mar 2000 18:15:10 -0800 (PST) What do you think about them? http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/01_BatonRougeRock.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/02_LoveTimeKiss.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock Date: 05 Mar 2000 01:05:21 PST I haven't been able to get any of these Tripod links that have shown up on the list in the last few days. when I click on the link it just reloads the tripod page. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:58:27 -0800 Hello. I have been off this list for a while. And now I'm back. I have one question, which I am sure someone will be able to answer. And the question is: Is there a decent-quality bootleg of the 1989 White Room available? My own copy - the original studio tape which Bill gave me, and from which I think most of the bootlegs came - is sounding a bit ropey. Actually I have two questions. The second one is: Is it still possible to get videos of the White Room movie footage? I seem to remember them being available at some point in the past. Thank you and goodbye! Peter xxx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) make it rain played Date: 05 Mar 2000 11:12:31 PST Hello everybody, was visiting a pub/club in the countryside yesterday and asked the DJ to play something by the KLF and he said yes and took out the white room cd from his case and the he played the white room verion of make it rain! I don´t know if it was a mistake or not, I didn´t think he´d play make it rain! Maybe he also played the WR version of LTTT straight after MIR, can´t remember really, was kinda drunk. . David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Sweden Date: 05 Mar 2000 11:42:37 PST Hello everybody, I saw this mail and I don´t agree so I thought I´ll tell you what I think its like. Perhaps me and Henrik live in in very different areas in Sweden, because.. . >In Sweden klf is quite well known also for there hit doktorin the tardis.> Doctorin´ The Tardis wasn´t even a hit in Sweden, some DJs around their 30´s remember DTT, but I haven´t met anyone except DJs that have heard of it. DTT didn´t make it to the charts either. But they had big hits with for ex: LTTT, J & A, 3 a.m. and A:WTIL All the above are well known and still played sometimes on swedish dancefloors and did well in the swedish charts. I remember in february 1992 J&A was at no.8 and A:WTIL was no. 9 at Trackslistan at the same week. Earlier J&A was number one in Sweden. >There was also a radio program named popkorn special that >explaind > >aboute>everything aboute klf. Yes and that was a really good program too, broadcasted in the spring of 1992. There was also another radioshow about KLF which I haven´t heard or know the name of. I 1997 the swedish tvchannel ZTV broadcasted the show from the Barbican theatre, as the only tvstation who did that ( please correct me if there were more countries than Sweden in which the show was shown on tv). >Also the are quite well known after the incident with ABBA :-) No-one that I´ve met have heard of that incident, but they think its a nice story when I tell them. >i got the program on tape if there is anyone that want it i can make mp3 >of>it. The program is in swedish, but its a really good program, one hour long. On the whole KLF is still wellknown in Sweden. For example, all my girlfriends through the years have heard of the KLF even though most of my girls weren´t too interested in music. I now work extra in a cdstore and I have worked in another cdstore earlier too so I think I have a good look on how wellknown the KLF are. The biggest cdstores in Sweden still have the TWR+J&A cd and the chill out cd in stock. this is what I have experienced - David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:12:16 +0000 - 5/3/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Peter Robinson >Hello. oh wow, its PeteR (which is a horribly old in-joke from years ago that i'm sure i'm the only one that remembers it, probably not even the originator of it, which i think was Culf) >Is there a decent-quality bootleg of the 1989 White Room available? yup. its been reworked a bit, the patches have been filled it (were the gaps in a couple of the tracks from your copy? or did they appear on whoever's was the next copy down the line?) and its on CD and pressed nicely and there's some other tracks on there too, with cool inlay book. no idea who to ask these days for it, but if you have anything cool to trade for it, i do have a 2nd copy around somewhere. >Actually I have two questions. The second one is: Is it still possible to >get videos of the White Room movie footage? I seem to remember them being >available at some point in the past. yes they were. but alas, not from me anymore. i made my last copies ages ago as my master tape is virtually see through now. someone out there must be able to knock up a copy these days though, surely. and on a more personal note: _was_ it you Bill was talking about being disillusioned, and if so, are you still disillusioned or does your presence here show you're re-enlightenment? or is the disillusionment the illumination that we should all be striving for to reach that next plane of fandom?? (sorry, have had a bit too much beer this evening for coherent emails.) -- --- Jai - @illitrate.cx "scared of how the fear surronds me will it ever clear?" - Lucid # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Mann Subject: (klf) Shangri-Las - Leader of the Pack Date: 06 Mar 2000 07:50:00 +0100 Heyaaa!!! (for first sorry for my english) today i looked into lazlo's discography: Discography last modified 10 May 1= 998 (666 days ago). - wow, this number! :-)) but i writing for other reason: i hear song Shangri-Las - Leader of the Pack ... this is related to The JAM= S: Who Killed The JAMS? - The Candystore with words: I m- I m- I met him at the Candystore the mp3 file of this song is available for download at: ftp://klf.tuke.sk/klf/Shangri-Las_-_Leader_of_the_Pack.mp3 KLFMANiK =0A____________________________________=0AP. S. V. P. U.=0Ahttp://www.pobox= .sk/=0A=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Sweden Date: 06 Mar 2000 08:53:26 +0100 >Hello everybody, I saw this mail and I don=B4t agree so I thought I=B4ll= tell=20 >you what I think its like. Perhaps me and Henrik live in in very different= =20 >areas in Sweden, because.. . > >>In Sweden klf is quite well known also for there hit doktorin the tardis.> > >Doctorin=B4 The Tardis wasn=B4t even a hit in Sweden, some DJs around their= 30=B4s=20 >remember DTT, but I haven=B4t met anyone except DJs that have heard of it.= DTT=20 >didn=B4t make it to the charts either. Agreed. >I 1997 the swedish tvchannel ZTV broadcasted the show from the Barbican=20 >theatre, as the only tvstation who did that ( please correct me if there=20 >were more countries than Sweden in which the show was shown on tv). And they interviewed me as a "KLF expert" :-) >>Also the are quite well known after the incident with ABBA :-) > >No-one that I=B4ve met have heard of that incident, but they think its a= nice=20 >story when I tell them. I have the same impression. >On the whole KLF is still wellknown in Sweden. >For example, all my girlfriends through the years have heard of the KLF= =20 >even though most of my girls weren=B4t too interested in music. Agreed, too. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) religious ponderings... Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:10:35 -0000 as result of a stoopid sampling session at the weekend, stumbled across the jesus christ - superstar soundtrack by mssrs rice&webber. not so unusual you'd think....ahhh...but you would be wrong. second track on the lp (not mine, 'borrowed' from a local hospital radio station where i work !) starts with an all too familiar bunch of notes...played it back a coupla times just to confirm my suspicions - even sampled it and looped...played on some sorta electric guitar was the underlying riff to "what time is love" by our lads cauty&drummond. has anyone else got access to this tune, if so please check it out immediately and respond in the positive ! does this mean that my eternal search for another link in my ethereal thread of jimmy cauty actually being jesus christ. both have beards (well, at least somepoint), both have carpentry backgrounds (jimmy's brother - or was it actually jimmy himself that built the set for the stadium house vid), both have the same initials and now this musical link as well.... a mere coincidence eh ?! neil - clearly far too much spare time and also fair-size lashings of general barking-madness. the Kause - nicely locked up till lunch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) religious ponderings... Date: 06 Mar 2000 04:25:45 EST > second track on the lp (not > mine, 'borrowed' from a local hospital radio station where i work !) starts > with an all too familiar bunch of notes...played it back a coupla times just > to confirm my suspicions - even sampled it and looped...played on some sorta > electric guitar was the underlying riff to "what time is love" I seem to recall reading somewhere an interview with Drummond where he commented that they nicked the WTIL riff off of Jesus Christ Superstar. A few years ago when staying at friends I noticed a tape of this... popped it in and sure enough... I think it was Overture with the riff... -paul Currently in rotation: Who Killed the JAMs? - JAMs, various and sundry mp3s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: (klf) Duy/Zuy Khiem Date: 06 Mar 2000 20:52:34 +1100 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does > he have any stuff available elsewhere? Apart from 1987, he's on The White Room and Bill's LP, The Man. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:44:17 +0000 (GMT) On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, illitrate wrote: > >Hello. > > oh wow, its PeteR (which is a horribly old in-joke from years ago > that i'm sure i'm the only one that remembers it, probably not even > the originator of it, which i think was Culf) Yes, sorry, that was a crap gag from a few centuries ago, which I devised around the time I was writing to the poor chap, sorry Peter! It seems to have perpetuated somewhat through the years (also partly my fault, although I hope not entirely!). > >Actually I have two questions. The second one is: Is it still possible to > >get videos of the White Room movie footage? I seem to remember them being > >available at some point in the past. > > yes they were. but alas, not from me anymore. i made my last copies > ages ago as my master tape is virtually see through now. someone out > there must be able to knock up a copy these days though, surely. There was a CDR of an MPEG of the movie doing the rounds. Some kind soul sent it to me (ta!). Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeffrey@formstudio.com Subject: (klf) for auction: KLF - URT - K1 Date: 06 Mar 2000 07:49:48 -0800 This auction ends in two days. KLF - Ultra Rare Trax for on ebay. This is an original CD from 1993, not a CDR. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271343497 1 - all you need is love - original 2 - it's grim up north - for love nor money mix 3 - what time is love - techno scam mix 4 - 3 a.m. eternal - blue danube orbital mix 5 - last train to trancentral - remix 1 6 - kylie said to jason - full length version 7 - what time is love - power remix 8 - gary glitter joins the jams - gary glitter mix 9 - justified and ancient - tammy mix 10 - 3 a.m. eternal - top mix 11 - what time is love - wandaful mix Thanks, Jeffrey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Date: 06 Mar 2000 13:46:07 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Culf > Sent: 06 March 2000 12:44 > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klf) > > > > > On Sun, 5 Mar 2000, illitrate wrote: > > >Hello. > > > > oh wow, its PeteR (which is a horribly old in-joke from years ago > > that i'm sure i'm the only one that remembers it, probably not even > > the originator of it, which i think was Culf) > > Yes, sorry, that was a crap gag from a few centuries ago, which I devised > around the time I was writing to the poor chap, sorry Peter! It seems to > have perpetuated somewhat through the years (also partly my fault, > although I hope not entirely!). > > > >Actually I have two questions. The second one is: Is it still > possible to > > >get videos of the White Room movie footage? I seem to remember > them being > > >available at some point in the past. > > > > yes they were. but alas, not from me anymore. i made my last copies > > ages ago as my master tape is virtually see through now. someone out > > there must be able to knock up a copy these days though, surely. > > There was a CDR of an MPEG of the movie doing the rounds. Some kind soul > sent it to me (ta!). Well, i have a mint copy of The White Room movie (first generation). Unfortunately, i still dont have the possibility of making dupes. When i do, ill be sure to let the list know. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: victor alexander Subject: Re: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:34:45 -0800 (PST) Try now without ".mp3". http://members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/ ------ I haven't been able to get any of these Tripod links that have shown up on the list in the last few days. when I click on the link it just reloads the tripod page. Chad ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock Date: 06 Mar 2000 20:08:58 +0100 >http://members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/ I've obviously missed something pivotal... What are those tunes? Sure, I can hear the KLF stuff in it, but what are they? Where do they come from? More info, thanks... Cheers! //Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Moore Subject: (klf) Found This.. interesting.. Date: 06 Mar 2000 13:38:03 -0700 http://216.13.247.196/(Solid%20Gold%20Chart%20Busters)%20I%20Wanna%201-2-1%2 0With%20You%20(anti%20radio).mp3 ??? Brent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Duy/Zuy Khiem Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:36:02 +1300 > > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does > > he have any stuff available elsewhere? > > Apart from 1987, he's on The White Room and Bill's LP, The Man. and the pure trance version of 3am the ethereal clarinet becomes obvious no vocals on anything except Me Ru Con though. He was also on TOTP helping them perform 3am (Live). He was in traditional costume and mimed the clarinet solo. don't know about any other solo stuff he's done. have a search on web cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) religious ponderings... Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:42:10 +1300 To original poster, well spotted, but this was common knowledge, TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > I seem to recall reading somewhere an interview with Drummond where he > commented that they nicked the WTIL riff off of Jesus Christ Superstar. that would be the X magazine interview where our very own Lazlo interviewed Bill. It is available on the xmission archive and Mancentral. That interview AFAIK is the only one where Bill admits to stealing riff from Lloyd-Webber, AND the only interview where Bill answers the question "Why Sheep?" (on the cover of Chill Out). BTW the fact that the riff came from Jesus Christ Superstar, means that all the Euro club rip-offs of WTIL available on the WTIL Story LP may not actually be rip-offs of the KLF. -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Anniss" Subject: (klf) Chill Out on vinyl...new bootleg? Date: 06 Mar 2000 17:25:08 +0000 When I was passing through London today I stopped at HMV on Oxford Street. For some reason they had a load of copies of "Chill Out" in the vinyl section, usnder "reissues". The sticker on the display copy said something like "KLF - Chill Out. One of the best albums ever made,and very rare. Available for only =A315.99". The front said "JAMSLP5", and underneath that, "Chill Out". There was some writing on the back, in the normal KLF font, saying thanks to various people. I couldn't see a KLF Comms logo anywhere. I'm assuming this is some kind of new bootleg. Anyone got any info? I ddin'= t buy a copy, so I can't tell you what the label says etc. Anyone in London might want to check it out to see whether they can make an= y sense of it - it's displayed in the obvious bit where all the new vinyl releases are, by the escalator (under "|reissues"). Anyway, that's that. Matt Beats & Breaks. quality dance music online. www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk email: matt@beatsandbreaks.co.uk click for enlightenment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) new (?) 1-2-1 mix Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:18:25 GMT >http://216.13.247.196/(Solid%20Gold%20Chart%20Busters)%20I%20Wanna%201-2-1%2 >0With%20You%20(anti%20radio).mp3 I just downloaded this one... sounds cool. Might be an official dub mix or something. Does any one know where this originated? 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R&S AMB5933CD =A38 various Trance Atlantic 2CD set 24trk + 192p book =A38 NEW ORDER & ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN - please email for separate lists Loads of other stuff available, Orbital, FSOL etc, please send want lists Postage is extra (cheap to addresses inside Scandinavia, expensive outside Europe, especially when it comes to 12"s...). If you find anything of interest, email me at: robert.elfving.6905@student.uu.se Please do not respond to the mailing list! thanks Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:04:21 +0100 ??? Comparing KLF with The Tamperer? Eh ..., NO! Please don't!! As Dr Alex might have put it: They're not even on the same planet. < Adam Hauner wrote: < BTW Am I right, if I see small hard guitar relation with Eskimos & = Egypt < (techno)?=20 Yes, definitely! But I think that their earlier stuff (from first album) was closer to KLF than their later stuff (from second album) In fact, the first E&E album is one of the best dance albums I've heard and it's sad that it has been so widely overlooked. < Stephen Kennedy wrote: < I've been told off in the past for making this comparison, but I think < Altern-8 were *comparable* if far less important. And one of your fave = bands < Stuart, the Utahs, deserve a mention. Plus of course The Shamen, who, = for < me, were the nearest thing to the KLF (probably more credible on the = dance < scene but less successful than the KLF)... Sorry Stephen, I can't really see that KLF and Altern-8 are *comparable* = either, maybe it's just me, and although I have collectictions with BOTH U96 and = SASH (Yep, there went all my credibility, if I ever had it), I can't for = my life see that they've got anything to do with KLF, as mentioned by = Stuart. But again, maybe it's just my lack of imagination. There were many other indie-dance crossover acts, most of them = excellent, like The Shamen, Eskimos & Egypt, Utah Saints, Jesus Jones, = Beloved, Apollo 440, etc, that I think is closer to the KLF style. I do = agree with you that Shamen ought to be the nearest thing to the KLF, but = I think they were less credible on the dance scene but more successful = than the KLF ..., (that is the other way around). :) The really sad thing here, is that both KLF and The Shamen have called = it a day, something which also Jesus Jones seems to have done, and I haven't heard = any-thing of E&E since the release of Kamikaze. But, fortunately, there = are new albums in the pipeline with both US & Beloved, and @440 released = an album rather recently. There is still hope ... / Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Stuart Bruce Till: KLF mailing list Datum: den 3 mars 2000 20:59 =C4mne: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > >On Fri 03 Mar, a9457399@wlv.ac.uk wrote: >>=20 >> Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the=20 >> only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since=20 >> their demise? >>=20 >> Wild guitar, >> Fantastic dance music, >> Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) >> And ABBA Samples! > >Everyone else seems to have disagreed with you, and while they aren't >the _only_ group to be worth mentioning since the last proper KLF >record, I do think you have a point- the Tamperer music that I've heard >(the 3 singles) has all been good stadium house music. I don't believe >they have the anarchistic outlook or the same sampling ethos as the KLF >or bands like PWEI did, but what they do, they do well, and it's catchy >and listenable in the same way that made tracks like "Justified And >Ancient" or "Last Train To Trancentral" cross over into appealing to = pop >fans. There's a nice energy there. I haven't become devoted yet, bought >the album or whatever, but I'd definitely give it a listen. They might >not seem 'credible' to some KLF fans, but that's your own problem... = :-) > >I thought the same about the Cuban Boys record- catchy and slick. Since >the KLF, I'd also mention: > >On the nearly-credible side: Apollo 440 (esp. first album), Chemical >Brothers (second album non-single tracks), Lionrock, some Fluke. > >On the 'most people just laugh' side: Sash! (some singles), earlier U96 >(second/third album), N-Trance (first album only). > >With artists such as U96 or Sash!, just because they've released one or >two less impressive 'novelty'/commercial records, doesn't mean that all >of their musical output should be written off. By that token people >would have never given the KLF a second chance after "Doctorin' The >Tardis"... > >Stuart. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: SV: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:58:24 +0000 (GMT) On Tue 07 Mar, Robert Vangus wrote: > although I have collectictions with BOTH U96 and SASH (Yep, th ere > went all my credibility, if I ever had it), I can't for my life see > that they've g ot anything to do with KLF, as mentioned by Stuart. But > again, maybe it's just my lack of imagination. While tracks like "America: WTIL?" and possibly "3am Eternal" are clearly indie-dance crossovers, tracks like the radio versions of "Last Train To Trancentral" or "WTIL" seem to me like pure, hi-energy, sample-laden techno, which is where a _vague_ comparison with U96 or _some_ Sash! still stands in my opinion. Maybe. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: (klf) KLF/Wah! connection Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:09:09 +0100 Hi folks, Browsing the discography etc. I realised that no-one seems to have noticed that the KLF were involved with this album: Pete Wylie and Wah! the Mongrel... Infamy! or How I Didn't Get Where I Am Today P+C 1991, Siren Records Ltd., CDSRN 33 The KLF are credited with 'Executive Production'. Half the tracks were produced by Howard Gray of Apollo 440, and brother Trevor Gray appears on quite a few tracks. The remaining tracks were produced by Wylie, Nick Coler and Ian Richardson. Nick and Ian appear on a number of tracks, and 'From Carpenter To King' also features 'the real Maxine', who I'm guessing is Maxine Harvey. Pete Wylie's "thank you's" included the KLF, Village Recorders, and June Montana (of Brilliant), although she's not listed as singing. Wah!'s "thank you's" name King Boy D, Ian and Nick but I didn't find Rockman in there. Loads of other name checking as well, like Paul Rutherford, Stephen Mallinder, Mick Houghton, Gaz Whelan, Mick Jones, Jayne Casey......... -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:51:31 -0000 Robert Vangus wrote: > Sorry Stephen, I can't really see that KLF and Altern-8 are *comparable* either, No need to apologise mate, this is only a matter of opinion, and as I said some people have disagreed (and some have agreed) with me on this point in the past. Whilst I'm a big fan of Altern-8 I certainly wasn't suggesting that they are comparable in terms of importance. I may also have been wrong to say they were musically similar, except that it's hard to make a distinction between a band's music and ethos and mode. It's there that I think they were similar - a "serious" duo making chart friendly dance music and playing the media game at the same time. Whatever, it doesn't matter, IMHO all this proves if anything is that the KLF were pretty unique! > maybe it's just me, and although I have collectictions with BOTH U96 and SASH (Yep, > there went all my credibility, if I ever had it), I can't for my life see that they've got anything > to do with KLF, as mentioned by Stuart. But again, maybe it's just my lack of imagination. Did Stuart say that? Hmm... I think I might be losing email, as I don't recall seeing that (and a few other threads too). > There were many other indie-dance crossover acts, most of them excellent, like The Shamen, Eskimos & Egypt, Utah Saints, Jesus Jones, Beloved, Apollo 440, etc, that I think is closer to the KLF style. I do agree with you that Shamen ought to be the nearest thing to the KLF, but I think they were less credible on the dance scene but more successful than the KLF ..., (that is the other way around). :) < I guess I shouldn't have attempted to measure credibility because it's not practical, also there's a not a lot in it between the KLF and the Shamen. However, in the UK the Shamen had a lot of credibility. They really were pioneers in the indie/dance crossover thing, and a big influence on other bands (notably Jesus Jones, but also, maybe indirectly, the "danceification" of the Happy Mondays and Primal Scream). Their Synergy tour is still namechecked occasionally as one of the first and best visualisations of live dance music. Even as late as 'Hempton Manor' Brit dance mags like Muzik were giving the Shamen good reviews and alluding to their almost unique mix of Smash Hits style pop stardom and street level cred. Plus of course Mr C runs the highly acclaimed End nightclub (with investment from Colin Shamen???) and the Plink Plonk label. Whether that beats the KLF I don't know - for me, the KLF were very big on *indie* credibility. Bill had managed some big "NME" style acts, the JAMs rapping tracks were a bit "comedy" for serious ravers but were a hit with the inkie music weeklies, and the whole KLF project was the greatest independent (indie) project ever (IMHO). Of course, What Time Is Love? and Chill Out were huge with the clubbing fraternity, but I dunno if they outweighed the Shamen's *long term* dance scene cred. Whatever, it doesn't really matter, I think most people here would agree that both bands were very important, and we were only talking about cred amongst one particular group of fans. As for success, the Shamen may well have sold more records by virtue of releasing more, but in one year (what was it, 1991??) the KLF were the UK's highest selling group world wide. That is what I was referring to. Again, comparing them was probably a bit silly of me, as they both had moments of high pop fame (KLF for most of their career under that name, Shamen around the time of the Boss Drum album). I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. > The really sad thing here, is that both KLF and The Shamen have called it a day, Yeah. There seems to be some dispute on the Shamen fan sites as to whether their "dematerialisation" means they have split up, or whether they're not an active record label band anymore, and that future releases will be on the net only. Personally, I think the declining interest in them, and the fact their site has hardly changed in 2 years, suggests that it really is the end. I just wish they'd played a few farewell shows first, ideally with Jhelisa on vocals, as I never got to see them. (Annoying fact, they played my university in 1990 - which I think means Will Sin would have been there - but I was only just getting into alt music then so didn't go!! :-() >something which also Jesus Jones seems to have done, and I haven't heard any-thing of E&E since the release of Kamikaze. But, fortunately, there are new albums in the pipeline with both US & Beloved, and @440 released an album rather recently. < I think I like my bands to be more than just aurally pleasing. I've always been big on lyrics, and bands with an interesting life view. That's probably why I _quite enjoy_ music from some of the artistes you mention, but wouldn't put them (nor the Tamperer and their ilk) in anything like the same category as the KLF or the Shamen. (Tis probably why I like Bob Dylan, too - I don't suppose there are many Dylan fans here ;-)) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (klf) track name question Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:48:24 -0600 hi everyone... i was digging thruy my mp3s and found two tracks and was wondering if some kind soul would tell me the proper name for each... they are: LUTT_STapeChr2.mp3 and fte.mp3 (from the black room demos) thanks in advance... lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) track name question Date: 08 Mar 2000 18:24:24 +0100 >=20 > fte.mp3 (from the black room demos) Fuck the election! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) track name question Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:44:50 -0000 Judging from other correspondence and other mp3 files I've heard or seen references to, it's Last UFO To Trancentral - the STape is presumably supposed to be Studio Tape. I don't know what the Chr2 represents. Cheers, Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) KLF/Wah! connection Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:22:07 -0700 On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 02:09:09PM +0100, Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote: > Browsing the discography etc. I realised that no-one seems > to have noticed that the KLF were involved with this album: > > Pete Wylie and Wah! the Mongrel... > Infamy! or How I Didn't Get Where I Am Today Sometimes this stuff's easier to find if you use the Discography Machine: ::: Additional Communicators -- other related releases ::::::::::::::::::::::: Pete Wylie And WAH! The Mongrel: Infamy! or "How I Didn't Get Where I Am Today" [1991] album CD: 1991 UK (Siren Records Ltd; CDSRN 33) ["Executive Production by The KLF"; tracks 4, 7-10 produced by Nick Coler/Ian Richardson/Pete Wylie] -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) religious ponderings... Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:25:53 -0700 On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:42:10PM +1300, Stuey & Michelle wrote: >> I seem to recall reading somewhere an interview with Drummond where he >> commented that they nicked the WTIL riff off of Jesus Christ Superstar. > > that would be the X magazine interview where our very own Lazlo > interviewed Bill. It is available on the xmission archive and > Mancentral. That interview AFAIK is the only one where Bill admits to > stealing riff from Lloyd-Webber, AND the only interview where Bill > answers the question "Why Sheep?" (on the cover of Chill Out). I still have the original tape recording of this interview (conducted over the phone just before The White Room was released). Maybe I should MP3/CD-R it...it might be a two-disc set! It would also be horribly embarrassing for me personally because I sound like a complete dork at regular intervals! -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 08 Mar 2000 22:21:41 PST Whether that beats the KLF I don't know - for me, >the KLF were very big on *indie* credibility That makes me wonder. I'm not a big expert on KLF chart positions, or record releases, but am I right in assuming that KLF's better selling singles sold exceptinaly well for an indie lable? I mean, Justified and Anicient, 3am, and Doctorin' were KLF comunications releases in the UK right? And they charted really well right? Not only on an independent lable, but their own lable right? So what I'm wondering is how many, if any, self published groups charted as well as the KLF, or better? Any? In the US any indie lable record charting at all is pretty unheard of. Even bands like Nirvanna had to go to a bigger lables before they got noticed. KLF is on Arista and Wax Trax. I think a few rap/hip hob labels are doing OK, and Junior Boys Own must be doing not that bad since they have Underworld, but that's about it I think. >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. Not my favorite. I haven't heard much though. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) religious ponderings... Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:24:01 EST > >> I seem to recall reading somewhere an interview with Drummond where he > >> commented that they nicked the WTIL riff off of Jesus Christ Superstar. > I still have the original tape recording of this interview (conducted over the > phone just before The White Room was released). Maybe I should MP3/CD-R > it...it might be a two-disc set! It would also be horribly embarrassing for > me personally because I sound like a complete dork at regular intervals! This would be really cool to hear... You could always edit it down I suppose to minimize the DQ (dorkiness-quotient)... -paul Currently in rotation: Who Killed the JAMs? - JAMs; Ultra Rare Trax - Orb; ...drunk remixes - PSB; various and sundry mp3s mostly beatle related # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) KLF/Wah! connection Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:08:15 +0100 > From: Lazlo Nibble [mailto:lazlo@studio-nibble.com] > > Sometimes this stuff's easier to find if you use the > Discography Machine: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > ::: Additional Communicators -- other related releases > ::::::::::::::::::::::: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Pete Wylie And WAH! The Mongrel: Infamy! or "How I Didn't Get > Where I Am Today" > [1991] album > > CD: 1991 UK (Siren Records Ltd; CDSRN 33) > ["Executive Production by The KLF"; tracks 4, 7-10 produced by > Nick Coler/Ian Richardson/Pete Wylie] Yer right of course. I found it in the listing now as well. I can provide full track details if anyone's interested, but its a bit periferal really (unless, like me, you're obsessed with the Liverpool post-punk scene). There's also a track by Brilliant missing from the discog, but I think it pre-dates Jimmy's involvement. The track is 'Coming Up For The Down Stroke', on the Batcave compilation 'Young Limbs and Numb Hymns'. The Batcave was a goth club staged weekly at Heaven around 1983. The track is credited to Glover (i.e. Youth), Anderson (as in Andy Anderson who went on to drum for The Cure and Gun Club) plus a couple of others I don't remember. No credit to Cauty, and no June Montana vocals. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) indie label Date: 09 Mar 2000 09:07:41 -0000 >KLF's better selling singles sold >exceptinaly well for an indie lable? As far as I recall, Depeche Mode have always been on an indie label in the UK (Mute). Also Oasis were on Creation in the UK (until very recently?). Though the KLF are the only ones that I can think of that seemed to do most of the publiclty themselves. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Struan Grant Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's Date: 09 Mar 2000 09:33:51 +0000 >>I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band >>of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. I vote New Order! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 09 Mar 2000 10:35:00 +0100 >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. I dunno, I'm not so familiar with The Shamen, it's a bit before my time (when was the Shamen active actually?), for me second and third would be U96 and Scooter but that of course is my opinion. PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) indie label Date: 09 Mar 2000 10:50:42 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] > > >KLF's better selling singles sold > >exceptinaly well for an indie lable? > As far as I recall, Depeche Mode have always been on an indie > label in the UK (Mute). A very good example. Mute is huge compared to KLF Communications, with an expansive roster - but I believe them to uphold the indie ethic. Blast First (e.g. '***K The Millenium' is a Mute imprint). > Also Oasis were on Creation in the UK (until very recently?). Correct, although by the time Oasis signed to Creation, Alan McGee had already sold his soul to Sony. Of course, sucking Sony's corporate c*ck was the only option open to him, bar bankruptcy after the cost of recording My Bloody Valentine's 'Loveless'. Now Oasis have their own Big Brother label (still aligned with Sony for worldwide distribution.) Examples of labels with major acts who went to the receivers rather than sell out are Factory (with New Order and Happy Mondays) and Rough Trade (with the Smiths plus numerous others). We're talking pretty huge sales figures for these bands. Jive and Silvertone are other major players that still qualify for the indie charts. They have had a lot of chart success. Also Virgin started out as Richard Branson's indie label - Mike Oldfield's 'Tubular Bells' sold rather a lot of copies. Virgin probably wouldn't have made it beyond the early seventies without that particular release. > Though the KLF are the only ones that I can think of that > seemed to do most of the publiclty themselves. Yeah, KLF Communications did seem to embrace the DIY ethic more than most of the major indie players. At least they didn't have to worry about distribution, with the Cartel firmly in place by the time they started racking up the sales. And they had an experienced publicist in Mick Houghton. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:21:06 -0000 > I dunno, I'm not so familiar with The Shamen, it's a bit before my time > (when was the Shamen active actually?), i think they were active from around 1990 or so, so that's not exactly before your time :) by the way, their "Different Drum" album, a remix album of Boss Drum, kicks ass big time (at least, that's what i think) anyone know Leftfield? they were pretty cool when they were in the underground scene and their 1st album is one of my favs. but now that they have gone for the big bucks they really are a load of crap. Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) shamen Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:26:13 -0000 >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. Not for me I'm afraid. They were great around the time of 'En-Tact' though before that time they were a disastrous psychedelic indie band (I have got a terrible record by them circa mid eighties about Margaret Thatcher). IMHO after 'En-Tact' they lost it a little, re-releasing 'Move Any Mountain' a dozen times to many, also seeing Mr.C ranting on about Ebeneezer Goode was just too much to cope with. But 'En-Tact' was fabulous. Mr C does seem to have come up good though with 'The End' club in London, though I'm not sure how much he has to do with that really. Second favourite band though?........The Orb, no question. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 09 Mar 2000 20:50:25 GMT > >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop >band > >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. It definately is (for me personally) together with Prodigy! Concerning the releases of "Move Any Mountain - Progen": Did anyone notice that it's kind of the WTIL of the Shamen? It's been opfficially released about FOUR times now and the Progen 2000 mixes are circulating already... So far, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) shamen Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:13:42 +0100 > From: Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] > >> I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite >> dance/pop band of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm >> getting. > > Not for me I'm afraid. They were great around the time of > 'En-Tact' though before that time they were a disastrous > psychedelic indie band (I have got a terrible record by > them circa mid eighties about Margaret Thatcher). Don't know much about the Shamen, but I do know that 'In Gorbachev We Trust' is a great record and that 'Jesus Loves Amerika' from that record is absolutely amazing. Second favourite band though, that's a tough one. I can't even say that the KLF are #1 on my list (ooh, sacrilege.) The KLF/JAMs are just one of many acts I like very much. Others in the top echelon include Pop Will Eat Itself, Joy Division and New Order, Japan, Julian Cope/Teardrop Explodes, Echo & The Bunnymen, Wah!, Cabaret Voltaire, Bauhaus, Hawkwind, The Waterboys, The Clash, Siouxsie & The Banshees, PIL, Primal Scream. Some of that must be danceable ;-) -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:28:45 +0000 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > Second favourite band though?........The Orb, no question. For this genre I'd go with The Orb, followed closely by Orbital. But that's for this type of stuff rather than in total. Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) indie label Date: 09 Mar 2000 09:43:05 +0000 (GMT) On Thu 09 Mar, Howat, Simon wrote: > > >KLF's better selling singles sold > >exceptinaly well for an indie lable? > > As far as I recall, Depeche Mode have always been on an indie label in > the UK (Mute). Also Oasis were on Creation in the UK (until very > recently?). Though the KLF are the only ones that I can think of that > seemed to do most of the publiclty themselves. But perhaps the difference there is that there are plenty of artists on Mute (including Moby who's currently getting a lot of Brits success), and there were plenty of artists on Creation before it gave up (including Primal Scream who were pretty popular themselves), so whilst though two labels were 'indie', they weren't necessarily as small as KLF Communications, which by and large only handled the KLF themselves and no other bands. For distribution, the KLF did have to turn to people like Blow Up!, Arista and Wax Trax for other countries, but doing your own distribution within the UK isn't _that_ difficult if the demand is there (although I wouldn't like to try it myself...). Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: Re : (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:12:43 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Stage medewerker > Sent: 09 March 2000 10:35 > To: 'klf@xmission.com' > Subject: RE: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > > > > >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite > dance/pop band > >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. > Nah, i dont like the shamen much. My fav bands include St Etienne, Marillion, New Order, James and Depeche Mode. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) What Time Is Porn? Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:48:38 +0100 Hello folks. The french tv Multivision has recently shown (to my amusement) a porn film, with a cover of "What Time Is Love" on a soundtrack ;) So, if you feel the urge, you can check it out here: http://rezist.com/djd/what_time_is_love.mpg should be there tonite... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) What Time Is Porn? Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:48:38 +0100 Hello folks. The french tv Multivision has recently shown (to my amusement) a porn film, with a cover of "What Time Is Love" on a soundtrack ;) So, if you feel the urge, you can check it out here: http://rezist.com/djd/what_time_is_love.mpg should be there tonite... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:14:32 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Heiko > Sent: 09 March 2000 12:21 > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > > > > > I dunno, I'm not so familiar with The Shamen, it's a bit before my time > > (when was the Shamen active actually?), > > i think they were active from around 1990 or so, so that's not exactly > before your time :) > by the way, their "Different Drum" album, a remix album of Boss Drum, > kicks ass big time (at least, that's what i think) > anyone know Leftfield? they were pretty cool when they were in the > underground scene and their 1st album is one of my favs. but now > that they have gone for the big bucks they really are a load of crap. I thought their last effort (inc. Afrika Shox) was pretty good actually... Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) indie label Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:44:52 +0000 Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote: > Jive and Silvertone are other major players that still qualify > for the indie charts. They have had a lot of chart success. The definition of 'indie' has always been a bid blurred rouind the edges... 3 big ones no-one has mentioned so far are PLW, XL and (not your traditional indie, but host to several no.1s) the BBC > ...Mike > Oldfield's 'Tubular Bells' sold rather a lot of copies. Virgin > probably wouldn't have made it beyond the early seventies without > that particular release. There is a similar story with most indies, one band carries the rest... Depeche Mode (and spin-offs yazoo & erasure) on Mute The Prodigy on XL and, erm the KLF on KLF? - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) JAMS LP 5 reissue Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:42:36 +0100 Somebody mentioned it in this list already, today I found this Erscheinungsdatum / 23.09.1999 (release date) EAN/UPC JAMSLP5 Preis DEM 38.99 An Import vinyl from NL -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) indie label Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:29:50 PST >As far as I recall, Depeche Mode have always been on an indie label in the >UK (Mute). Well I guess then that it depends on what we consider indepentent. Mute is pretty huge now. They have (and have had for a while) such succesfull multi continent groups as Moby, Erasure, DM, Nick Cave, and Richie Hawtin.....OK so he's not that big. They also have Yaz, which a few months ago hit number one in club play in the US with that Situation re-release. Not bad for a band that's been broken up for....16 years? 17 years? Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:47:46 -0000 > >>I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band > >>of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. > > I vote New Order! My vote would probably go to Colourbox or failing that maybe PWEI - if either of these count as dance/pop bands. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:36:31 -0000 > >I wonder if the Shamen are "officially" the second favourite dance/pop band > >of KLF list members?? That's the picture I'm getting. > > Not for me I'm afraid. They were great around the time of 'En-Tact' though > before that time they were a disastrous psychedelic indie band (I have got a > terrible record by them circa mid eighties about Margaret Thatcher). IMHO Immediately before En-Tact (that is, the 'In Gorbachev We Trust' album, and the 'Phorward' mini-album) they were IMHO at their peak! The guitars had mostly gone, and Will Sin was making his mark. The beats were cold and relentless, as were the samples, but the tunes were there too. I think that stuff is great. Of course, before *that* they were a less than incendiary psychedelic rock band ('Drop' and a few singles), but fair play for making the transition... BTW, can I have that "terrible record", I don't think I have that one! ;-) (not joking, BTW) > after 'En-Tact' they lost it a little, re-releasing 'Move Any Mountain' a > dozen times to many, also seeing Mr.C ranting on about Ebeneezer Goode was The 1998 remixes were to the best of my knowledge done without their permission and were a contributory factor in them leaving One Little Indian. I agree though that they remixed it far too many times (to quote the Progeny album, not absolutely verbatim: "we're sick of remixing this fucker, here's the samples so you can do it yourselves") although as members of the KLF mailing list I'm not sure we're in a position to criticise excessive remixing... ;-) > just too much to cope with. But 'En-Tact' was fabulous. Mr C does seem to Each to their own. I think I prefer In Gorbachev, but En Tact has some great moments (Progen, Hyperreal, Hear Me, etc). I also like Boss Drum a great deal, but can understand why many people don't. Certainly it was disastrous for them as it turned them into a pop band, and they were never going to deliver a followup to match (and it created lots of friction with OLI, who are never quick to miss a marketing opportunity). The old story of huge success versus gradual progress. I think the followup, Arbor Bona whatever was awful (apart from Destination Eschaton, especially the wonderful Hardfloor mix), but Hempton Manor and UV restored some of my faith - if Jhelisa had vocalised the girlie bits on UV rather than Victoria Wilson James or whatever her name is it might have been even better, but there we are. > have come up good though with 'The End' club in London, though I'm not sure > how much he has to do with that really. What are you saying, like? :-) Seriously, I thought he was the top dog there?? > Second favourite band though?........The Orb, no question. I kind of took that for granted, I actually file KLF and Orb together because of Jimmy's (now ancient) involvement in both. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:15:58 -0000 > That makes me wonder. I'm not a big expert on KLF chart positions, or record > releases, but am I right in assuming that KLF's better selling singles sold > exceptinaly well for an indie lable? They sold extremely well, period - hence the million quid :-) Damn, I need to upgrade my reference library - my Guinness Hit Singles doesn't go any more recent than What Time Is Love? (a no. 5 hit in the UK) and Doctorin' (a number one). But that (and I'm sure they had at least one no. 1 as the KLF???) is enough to illustrate the point - a number one on your own label is quite a feat. Also as I said earlier they were the top selling Brit band of one year, which I think was probably 1991. > I mean, Justified and Anicient, 3am, and Doctorin' were KLF comunications > releases in the UK right? And they charted really well right? Not only on an > independent lable, but their own lable right? That was my original point. KLF Comms was not just an "indie", but the band's own label. That put them on the same terms as Joe Bloggs who throws out a few CDRs from his bedroom on his own label. Sure, The KLF hired distributors and pluggers and the like, of course they did, but Bill "hatched the plan" and they were in charge. In the UK at least there were to my knowledge no licencing deals or anything like that, the KLF published themselves and thus were free to decide their own promotional strategy, record releases, etc. I'd say for an act which hit the number one spot that it almost (if not totally) unique. > So what I'm wondering is how many, if any, self published groups charted as > well as the KLF, or better? Any? I'm not sure about any self published bands with independent distribution, no reliance on a major or licencing in their home country, who were not famous before self publishing themselves. But to answer the question as you put it, the Beatles launched their own label, Apple, in 1968. They were still contracted to EMI, so the giant distributed (most of) the records and the Beatles records on Apple actually bore EMI catalogue numbers. The first single by the Beatles on Apple was Hey Jude which hit the number one spot (I think this was in effect "Apple 1" but see above about EMI cat. no.s; the box set "Our First Four" included Hey Jude and Apple 2, 3 and 4 by other artists). The next two Beatles singles on Apple hit number one as well (as did multiple albums), but it was slightly downhill after that. However, despite the EMI link Apple was self-owned and a proper indie label in as much as it also had it's own artistes signed up by the Beatles (and often produced by them too), such as Mary Hopkin who went to number one with her single Apple 2, and Badfinger who had 3 top ten hits with the label. Oasis have just started their own label, Big Brother, and scored number one in the singles and albums spots. I don't know whether they retain a Sony link or whether that contract has expired. I daresay that in between 1968 and 2000 (if not before) there have been a few others who have gone top ten on their own label. Anyone?? > In the US any indie lable record charting at all is pretty unheard of. Even > bands like Nirvanna had to go to a bigger lables before they got noticed. > KLF is on Arista and Wax Trax. I think a few rap/hip hob labels are doing > OK, and Junior Boys Own must be doing not that bad since they have > Underworld, but that's about it I think. We have a thriving independent sector over here, maybe because it's a smaller country and you need smaller promotional budgets. Get yourself playlisted on Radio 1 and you're half way there, in the US there's hundreds of radio stations to crack (or MTV, who, from what I gather, are inpenetrable for the smaller label). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 23:14:07 +0000 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > Damn, I need to upgrade my reference library...(snip)... I'm sure they had at least one > no. 1 as the KLF? 3am got to no.1, was probably outsold by J&A which was no.2 at the peak buying period, Xmas > In the UK at least there were to > my knowledge no licencing deals or anything like that... up till 2k of course, on blast first, a division of mute > I'd say for an act which hit the number one spot that > it almost (if not totally) unique. it's pushing the definitions, but how about Mr Blobby? if you count the bbc marketing dept. as an 'artist' that is... > ... The next two Beatles singles on Apple hit number one as well (as > did multiple albums), but it was slightly downhill after that. That might actually put the Beatles behind Spandau Ballet (i've no reference books to hand), who were (if you read the very small print) on their own "reformation" label, licenced to ... erm... WEA I think. However, if you excuse the use of guest vocalists, the award has to go to PWL (Pete Waterman Limited), home of Stock Aitken Waterman - much to the disgust of the NME's chart compilers they were an Independent through and through... Kylie, Rick Astley, Jason Donovan, Sinitta... all Indie! The PWL Hit Factory probably outsold Apple Period Beatles by a large margin, often having half a dozen tracks in the top 40. Other borderline cases spring to mind... The Sisters of Mercy are on their own "Merciful Release" label, via Warners (?) and Nine Inch Nails have a claim too with Nothing Records in the US, and the Art of Noise pretty much ARE the ZTT managment team! > > In the US any indie lable record charting at all is pretty unheard of. > Even > > bands like Nirvanna had to go to a bigger lables before they got noticed. > > KLF is on Arista and Wax Trax. I think a few rap/hip hob labels are doing > > OK, and Junior Boys Own must be doing not that bad since they have > > Underworld, but that's about it I think. I think I heard The Prodigy on XL were the first indie no.1 album in the US, although I'm sure Depeche Mode beat them to it - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:26:11 -0800 Actually, Nothing is ownder by Interscope, which is in turn a Universal label. Though Trent does pretty much manage to keep Nothing to its own. But still. > Other borderline cases spring to mind... The Sisters of Mercy are on > their own "Merciful Release" label, via Warners (?) and Nine Inch Nails > have a claim too with Nothing Records in the US, and the Art of Noise > pretty much ARE the ZTT managment team! --- Shilo Maggi Electronic Entertainment Editor BPM Culture Magazine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 23:54:57 -0000 Andrew Robinson andrew@bml.co.uk wrote: > Stephen Kennedy wrote: > up till 2k of course, on blast first, a division of mute Yes, but that wasn't on KLF Communications so doesn't count. It wasn't even "The KLF", it was "2K" (I know, I know...) > > I'd say for an act which hit the number one spot that > > it almost (if not totally) unique. > > it's pushing the definitions, but how about Mr Blobby? if you count the > bbc marketing dept. as an 'artist' that is... Which I don't! :) The Beeb may count as an indie officially, but really in the UK they don't come much bigger than Auntie! > > ... The next two Beatles singles on Apple hit number one as well (as > > did multiple albums), but it was slightly downhill after that. > > That might actually put the Beatles behind Spandau Ballet (i've no > reference books to hand), who were (if you read the very small print) on > their own "reformation" label, licenced to ... erm... WEA I think. I refuse to believe that assertion ;-) > However, if you excuse the use of guest vocalists, the award has to go > to PWL (Pete Waterman Limited), home of Stock Aitken Waterman - much to > the disgust of the NME's chart compilers they were an Independent > through and through... Kylie, Rick Astley, Jason Donovan, Sinitta... all > Indie! The PWL Hit Factory probably outsold Apple Period Beatles by a > large margin, often having half a dozen tracks in the top 40. Hmm... On singles maybe, albums - I doubt it. The White Album alone is reckoned to have sold 2 million in its *first week*, and has had another 32 years since then to notch up more sales! Then we've had the recent Anthology series etc etc. I know PWL sold bucket loads of singles, but albums?? > Other borderline cases spring to mind... The Sisters of Mercy are on > their own "Merciful Release" label, via Warners (?) and Nine Inch Nails There's millions like that now though, often they're not real "labels" like Apple (i.e. with other bands on the roster), it's just a financial/tax/statu s thing. Plus, Apple is the first I'm aware of to really do it on a big scale. If Apple were started today it wouldn't be so notable, as everyone's doing it at least for their own records (fewer are signing up other bands, which I believe Oasis are planning to do). > have a claim too with Nothing Records in the US, and the Art of Noise > pretty much ARE the ZTT managment team! Good point!!! Mind you, have Art of Noise had a number one? I know ZTT have (e.g. FGTH) but that's not quite the same. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:02:41 PST in the US there's hundreds >of radio stations to crack More like a few thousand, and many are owned by the same four of five companies. Radio is hell over here. Do you have any idea how many stations in the US are called "The Fox", or "The X"? It's pitiful. (or MTV, who, from what I gather, are >inpenetrable for the smaller label). You've got that straight. Pet Shop Boy's "New York City Boy" was number 1 in Maxi single sales (the chart that proves what people actualy like, and buy) and it never, as far as I know, got played on MTV even once. Despite PSBs rather humungous success in the rest of the world (15th most successful group in the UK ever for singles sales, most successful duo ever) people in the US still think of them as only a dead 80s group. With the market as homogenous as it is here what MTV says, most radio stations do. If it weren't for collage radio we'd be screwed....more screwed that is. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:29:48 +0800 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > Immediately before En-Tact (that is, the 'In Gorbachev We Trust' album, and > the 'Phorward' mini-album) they were IMHO at their peak! I saw them live with jesus-jones supporting them during this time - in a very small hall in down-town Bath - excellent gig..... I would agree that at this time they were probably at the peak (at least as a working tour band)... - last time I saw then around 1989 was a soundclash with them battling Grahame-Park and some other manchester dj's in camden town - they were all midi by this point really - still not bad though!! stephen http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs!" Subject: (klf) Re: Small label success Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:46:32 -0600 > If it weren't for collage radio we'd be screwed....more screwed that is. You mean 'college', of course :) If more collage got played on the radio (I'm thinking plunderphonics, Negativland, and the Evolution Control Committee), I'd fix the radio in my car. --Quahogs-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Krumrey Subject: (klf) KLF BBC Omnibus video Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:03:31 -0800 I'm trying to get a copy of this video (preferably on NTSC, but I can have it transfered from PAL if necessary). Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:51:08 -0700 On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:26:13AM -0000, Howat, Simon wrote: > Not for me I'm afraid. They were great around the time of 'En-Tact'... Speaking of, what's the story with the recent remaster/reissue? -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Everybody's doing weblogs and I conform! http://www.studio-nibble.com/weblog -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:35:59 -0000 Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:40:31 -0700 >My vote would probably go to Colourbox Yeah, they were good. 'Looks like we're shy one horse'. Lots of film samples. M.A.R.R.S. was a good single too, especially in the context of a UK record market just getting turned on to hip-house or whatever it was called then. All tracks written by 'S&M' Young. Are colourbox still going? Did anyone out there like Front 242? 'Official Version' was a great LP. That was roughly what I was into just as the JAMMS came on the scene and moved the goalposts somewhat. Are '242' now generally regarded as a pioneering Belgian new beat band or just another indie band that doesn't make records anymore. Incidentally, got my new print of 'The Manual' this morning from Amazon.co.uk. Can confirm that it is a roughly A5 sized booklet with an introduction from Jon Savage and a little extra from King Boy D. Not a bad buy for someone who hasn't yet got it, pocket sized and all that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:35:59 -0000 Date: 10 Mar 2000 07:58:23 -0500 (EST) > Did anyone out there like Front 242? They did a few good things (in my opinion). They actually reunited a year or two ago and did a tour. They put out a live album from said tour, and put out a double CD of remixes of Headhunter. They've gone very 'techno-ish' now. I've heard that they're working on a new studio album, but who knows. http://www.front242.com/ Ae. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Sample Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:25:35 GMT Hi all! Does anyone know where the KLF took the "all aboard" sample on the LTTT Moody Boys remixes from? Thanks, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:02:14 +0000 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > I know PWL sold bucket loads of singles, but albums?? Good point - I suppose PWL 'sold' a lot of albums with "now that's what I call..." in the title though. > > Other borderline cases spring to mind... The Sisters of Mercy are on > > their own "Merciful Release" label, via Warners (?) and Nine Inch Nails > > There's millions like that now though, often they're not real "labels" like > Apple (i.e. with other bands on the roster) That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin Manson (hey - nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a few acts for Mr Eldritch to mess with too. Come to think of it, how about Madonna's Maverick Label? Or Prince with Paisley Park? - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) Sample Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:30:20 -0000 > Hi all! > Does anyone know where the KLF took the "all aboard" sample on the LTTT > Moody Boys remixes from? > > Thanks, Kade could be from "NightTrain" by Public Enemy on "Apocalypse '91, the enemy strikes black" Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:36:41 -0800 > That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin Manson (hey - > nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a few acts for Mr > Eldritch to mess with too. Nothing also has Meat Beat Manifesto. Choice. --- Shilo Maggi Electronic Entertainment Editor BPM Culture Magazine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" Subject: RE: (klf) Sample Date: 10 Mar 2000 16:40:59 -0000 In which case it's from 'Night Train' by James Brown M > could be from "NightTrain" by Public Enemy on "Apocalypse '91, the enemy strikes black" > Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:04:52 -0000 > > > Other borderline cases spring to mind... The Sisters of Mercy are on > > > their own "Merciful Release" label, via Warners (?) and Nine Inch Nails > > > > There's millions like that now though, often they're not real "labels" like > > Apple (i.e. with other bands on the roster) > > That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin Manson (hey - > nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a few acts for Mr > Eldritch to mess with too. Why is Marilyn Manson (cough spit!) nearly back on topic? :) (Apart from the Cauty remix). > Come to think of it, how about Madonna's Maverick Label? Or Prince with > Paisley Park? Yeah, Maverick isn't too far removed from Apple. Madonna records for them (but presumably is still under contract to Warners or whoever), has had number one singles and albums (I guess), and signed some pretty successful other artistes too. So, yeah, close. Apple and KLF Comms both have more interesting stories, and Apple and Maverick and the ilk were/are all dependent on majors, but a good analogy. And I suggest the end of the thread :) I don't think anyone's come up with a totally independent label like KLF Comms which has taken the owners from relative obscurity to total fame... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) shamen Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:53:22 -0000 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:26:13AM -0000, Howat, Simon wrote: > > Not for me I'm afraid. They were great around the time of 'En-Tact'... > > Speaking of, what's the story with the recent remaster/reissue? Of En-Tact? Not aware of that. As for the Drop/In Gorbachev We Trust/Phorward reissues, I believe the deal there is that they were originally issued by the Shamen's own label Moksha (although In Gorbachev was licenced to Demon) and have now been licenced out to Castle. Bonus tracks have been added, as far as I know they're all B sides and possibly singles which have previously been available on the Italian compilation Strange Day Dreams, a compilation I have a copy of but which was never AFAIK issued by a Brit or American label. The rereleases also have new sleeve notes. The significant one has to be Phorward, CDs of which until the reissue were selling at KLF prices - it's a fine mini album, and the bonus track, smart packaging and sleeve notes make it a nice item to have. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Crapolarecords Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:56:29 -0500 I just heard from Crapopla Records that they will be releasing a new single in the next few months... now is this just another tune they will be playing on their website, or a real single? Does anyone have anymore info on Crapola, or any of the tunes that have been played on their website? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) FAQ and Samples Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:33:08 -0000 Can anyone tell me if the KLF FAQ is online anywhere? The URL that most KLF sites link to (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt) doesn't seem to exist anymore. Secondly, a remember from a while back there was a list of samples that Bill and Jimmy had used. I can't track this down, either. Can anyone help? Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) K Cera Cera - story of music Date: 10 Mar 2000 20:48:19 +0100 (CET) Hi, I discovered today for me, that 'K Cera Cera' was singed by Doris Day before K Found. as 'Whatever Will Be, Will Be (Que Sera Sera)', part of words come from John Lennon (his 'Happy Christmas (War Is Over)'). If you want it, all is available for about a week on these URLs: Doris Day - Whatever Will Be, Will Be (Que Sera Sera) http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/dd-qss.zip 2,5 MB John Lennon - Happy Christmas (War Is Over) http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/jl-hc.zip 3,3 MB K Foundation & The Red Army Choir - K Cera Cera http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/kf-kcc.zip 4,3 MB and as bonus hindi song: Pukar - Kay Sera... Sera http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/p-kss.zip 6,5 MB -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Crapola Records Date: 11 Mar 2000 05:43:53 GMT >I just heard from Crapopla Records that they will be releasing a new single >in the next few months... now is this just another tune they will be >playing >on their website, or a real single? Does anyone have anymore info on >Crapola, or any of the tunes that have been played on their website? Everything about Crapola seems to be a bit strange. It was september '99 when they told me Jimmy had just been finishing a new single and a bunch of remixes under a new pseudonym. That was six months ago. Today there are still no news displayed on the site but they keep telling me that this will change next month. The label launching is almost complete and they're just waiting for some of their artists. In an official statement they said that right now (feb/march) Jimmy is finishing his new material and records the final vocals for a new track (sung by a "well-known" (?) singer). Concerning the 60-second-bits on the Crapola homepage they claimed that the last song had been done by Jimmy Cauty but wasn't about to be released at all. Maybe, maybe not, maybe later. The new(er) track (the Beatles remix) 'officially' is a song they "just found somewhere on the net" and "thought that it would be good for the homepage" or something like that. They actually can't remember who made it and where they found it. Which record company (or whatever Crapola will be) puts a completely unknown track on its homepage??? Questions, questions, questions.... What do you think of this whole story? Cheers, DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) Crapola Official Statement Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:26:16 GMT Hi again! I thought you'd like to read the "official statement" of Crapola concerning the new releases and rumours. Btw, did you notice that they spell crew with a "K"? :) Well, here it is: >>You told me you didn't know the song... This is a bad joke, isn't it?!? > >No, this is not a bad joke! > >As you keep pressing this matter, here is our official >answer for you: > >"We don't know anything about the song featured on our >Website. We found the song on the Internet and thought >"that sounds so good we'll use it as part of our Flash >Animation, on our temporary Webpage". It is *not* our >Song and, as such, we could never release it in any form >whatsoever. We don't even have the full track, we found >a 60 second sample of it on the net and have used that. >The song is not a Crapola Records track and will not be >a future release on our label, promotionally or otherwise." > >Mr Cauty is currently working on new material for release >on Crapola Records this year (it has NOTHING TO DO with >the song features on our Website!!). We do not currently have >any release date and do not wish to reveal anything at >this stage, for confidentiality reasons. We are working >with a major vocalist on a track right now, vocals are >being recorded in Paris shortly. Mr Cauty is also working >on new remixes (we cannot reveal the artists without >permission from the relevant record labels, sorry). > >That is ALL WE CAN SAY at the moment. There will be >no official news for a while... but I can assure you that >we are very busy! > >Thanks for your continued enthusiasm. > >CRAPOLA krew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 11 Mar 2000 13:42:30 -0000 mr quahogs wrote If more collage got played on the radio (I'm thinking plunderphonics, Negativland, and the Evolution Control Committee), I'd fix the radio in my car. please help me out here, sorry if i'm being dumb but are these the names of artist/bands. i am well interested just by there names. can you shed some light please... i was plesantly supprised to see that bands like Orb, New Order, Shamen, colourbox, F242, NIN, are being mentioned. one thing that has puzzled me is that nobody has mentioned the "Punk" connection. all these bands arose from the early 80's and they "all" make music with the same ethos behind them, to take music further than ever before because they just can. going back to some points made about the Shamen, what happened to them after Will died??? Mr C just came in and wrecked the joint while Colin just put leather trousers on and joined in. this might sound servere, but i don't rate anything they did after Wills tragic death in Tennarife. they were a brilliant band with a unique outlook on music reraptyouare is the best elctro-love song ever written. has anyone got christopher mayhew speaks out?. they were also unashamed to blatenly cover they're favourite artists. Sid Barret (floyd), tha Monkeys, Jimi Hendrix (superb version of purple haze) . the funniest thing i ever heard about them was that circa '87 the scottish brewery McEwans paid them 1/2million ukp to write the music for one of they're tv ads. the tune they came up with was "happy days". the brewry thought it was fab, knocked out the ad on tape to all the broadcasters and it wasn't until the last minute (literly the day before broadcast) that they realised that it was an anti tory (conservative). by this time the Will and Colin had been on holiday, gone shopping, and had started working with a newly referbished studio and there wasn't a thing McEwans could do about it, they couldn't have shown the ads, so had to record new ones. -i'd love to go on about the Shamen, is there a Shamen list? -love -mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) FAQ and Samples Date: 11 Mar 2000 16:29:00 +0000 you can try http://www.illitrate.cx/klf/KLFfaq.html hopelessly out of date - but then so was that one you had the link to. . -- --- There is no time like the present. There is no present like the future. There is no future... illitrate Publicashions Lymatid - Wyrd Stuff 4 Weird People KLF@breathemail.net - http://www.illitrate.cx/klf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 11 Mar 2000 09:17:42 PST >i was plesantly supprised to see that bands like Orb, New Order, Shamen, >colourbox, F242, NIN, are being mentioned. one thing that has puzzled me is >that nobody has mentioned the "Punk" connection. all these bands arose from >the early 80's and they "all" make music with the same ethos behind them, >to >take music further than ever before because they just can. Actually I think it has been mentioned at least once. I trash my mail so I can't check for sure though. >Sid >Barret (floyd), tha Monkeys, Jimi Hendrix (superb version of purple haze) . Yes! That was a very JAMS like cover of purple haze IMO. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 11 Mar 2000 18:18:01 -0000 > i was plesantly supprised to see that bands like Orb, New Order, Shamen, > colourbox, F242, NIN, are being mentioned. one thing that has puzzled me is > that nobody has mentioned the "Punk" connection. all these bands arose from > the early 80's and they "all" make music with the same ethos behind them, to > take music further than ever before because they just can. I mentioned it in passing in "Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front" on 3rd March, but you expand the point better than I did. I agree, the KLF and other great bands push at the boundaries, whereas chart journeymen like the Tamperer do not. They might make nice, catchy pop disco songs, but they won't even be a dust-gathering footnote in history (to coin a phrase). > going back to some points made about the Shamen, what happened to them after > Will died??? Mr C just came in and wrecked the joint while Colin just put > leather trousers on and joined in. this might sound servere, but i don't > rate anything they did after Wills tragic death in Tennarife. they were a I like Boss Drum and some of the other post-Will material, but like you I do wonder where they would have headed if Will hadn't so tragically died. Passing on in a freak accident just as you're about to hit stardom is a bum rap indeed. I think they may well have been massive on the trendy/underground scene if Will had lived and wouldn't have been so commercial. Would have been interesting for sure. > brilliant band with a unique outlook on music reraptyouare is the best > elctro-love song ever written. has anyone got christopher mayhew speaks > out?. Yeah, it's on In Gorbachev We Trust, *brilliant* track on a great album. Mayhew Says A Lot on Strange Day Dreams is fab too. > they were also unashamed to blatenly cover they're favourite artists. Sid > Barret (floyd), tha Monkeys, Jimi Hendrix (superb version of purple haze) . I've bid successfully on the Make It Mine promo which contains the Hendrix cover on ebay, but am in a spot of bother as I don't have the US dollars I need (I bid a mighty $0.01 plus postage, $1.51 but he doesn't know I'm in Europe, I guess I'll send $2 or $3. What would the postage be on a CD single from the USA to the UK?) Does anyone here want to buy a KLF MP3 CDR (I don't usually sell, but need the banknotes) or would be interested in having a look at the CD singles etc. I could sell? Also, does anyone know if that promo is meant to have a front inner sleeve? (this one doesn't) > -i'd love to go on about the Shamen, is there a Shamen list? Was wondering the same myself. Anyone? I'm also thinking of doing a Shamen site along the lines of the best KLF sites, i.e. an information repository. Since this is heading off topic if anyone thinks that's a good/bad idea or has old reviews, articles, info on Shamen bootlegs, etc., please email me privately. I'm not sure whether it would be worth the time effort as the Shamen fans seem a lot less numerous and persistent than the KLF fans. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs!" Subject: Re: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 11 Mar 2000 17:37:39 -0600 > > mr quahogs wrote > > If more collage got played on the radio (I'm thinking plunderphonics, > > Negativland, and the Evolution Control Committee), I'd fix the radio in my > > car. > > please help me out here, sorry if i'm being dumb but are these the names of > artist/bands. i am well interested just by there names. can you shed some > light please... I have been really into audio collage music lately, music that uses a lot of (sometimes only) samples from other sources. For info on the above examples: plunderphonics: www.6q.com negativland: www.negativland.com evolution control committee: http://www.evolution-control.com/ All three have a lot of downloadable files (or links to them). Check them out! --Quahogs-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: (klf) looking for list member Date: 12 Mar 2000 19:04:32 -0000 can the list member who e-mailed me about the Doctorin the Tardis 10" Picture Disc cut-out please e-mail me, i lost your address, Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Elfving Subject: (klf) klf & orb for sale (long list) Date: 12 Mar 2000 20:36:28 +0100 Hi again, sorry this didn't turn out quite right last time. The prices are in British Pounds of course. Sorry for having to post this crap once again, but it might be of interest for some of you. ***KLF FOR SALE OR TRADE*** Gary In The Tardis 12" KLF003R full pic sleeve + stickered inner UKP15 Doctorin' The Tardis CDV KLFCD003 5" CD video UKP25 Doctorin' The Tardis 7" TVT4025 US b/w Gary In The Tardis UKP8 Doctorin' The Tardis 12" DEMIX4512004 German release UKP8 WTIL 12" Live At Trancentral GER BlowUp INT125.789 UKP7 WTIL 12" KLF004X w/l unreleased Wandaful mix UKP25 WTIL 7" COMA7011 Scandinavian 90 release, pink sleeve, 89 Primal mix UKP8 WTIL 12" COMA127011 as above but 12" with 4 mixes UKP20 J&A 7" COMA7023 Scandinavian release + win a week in london competition UKP7 K Cera Cera original 1 track cassette single (still sealed) UKP40 Annual Report book (Drummond) ltd 500 copies UKP20 F**k The Millenium CD5 Swedish 4trk stickered case BFFP146CD UKP8 LTTT Benio Over & Out mix, on Deep Heat 2CD compilation TCD2490 UKP15 Huono Viisaus KALA007 bootleg CDR (trades only) I Wanna 1-2-1 With You CD5 Euro 2trk VSCDE1765 UKP3 I Wanna 1-2-1 With You CDR promo UK 2trk w/track listing inlay UKP8 Brilliant - Somebody 12" GER 4 track UKP7 Brilliant - Man's World 7" GER UKP5 Brilliant - Kiss The Lips Of Life LP GER BRILL1 UKP8 Brilliant - Kiss The Lips Of Life LP US cut-out but still sealed UKP8 Sunsonic - Roll My Body ltd 12" incl Cauty's Gris Gris remix UKP10 SFX - Lemmings 12" UK (Ian Richardson/Nick Coler) UKP6 Non-KLF related for sale or trade: 1300 Drums - Ooh Aah Cantona CD5 UK 5 mixes DYND5 UKP3 Art Of Noise - Art Of Love CS UK CHICS23 (Youth/Orb mix) UKP3 Bananarama - Only your Love 12" UK (Youth/Thrash mix) UKP3 Baby Ford - BFORD9 CD album 14trk UKP5 Dreadzone - Zion Youth CD5 VSCDG1537 inc Underworld mix UKP4 Fortran 5 - Crazy Earth 7" UK promo Mute113r unreleased radio edits UKP4 Robert Leiner - Visions Of The Past CD album 10trk Apollo R&S AMB3925CD UKP5 Massive Attack - Risingson CD promo 3trk WBRXDJ8 UKP5 Mindpop - Mindpop CD album 1994 Swedish ambient (orb influences) UKP5 Monday Michiru - Groovement CD JAP remix album 8trk KTCR-1285 UKP8 Orb - A Huge Ever Growing CD UK BLR27OCD original 19:07 ambient mix UKP20 Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds CS UK BLRC98 cassette incl Ambient mix UKP4 Orb - Perpetual Dawn 7" UK original 1991 release UKP5 Orb - Towers Of Dub 10min live mix on Island VOXCDFREE3 16trk comp UKP7 Orb - Space/Ultraworld demos bootleg cdr (trades only) Pressure Of Speech - Our Common Future CD album 10trk NorthSouth Records UKP5 Rockers HiFi - What A Life CD5 5 mixes BRCD309 UKP3 Rockers HiFi - Push Push CD5 4trk BRCD314 UKP3 Shamen - Make It Mine CD5 US 3trk promo inc Oh-Moby edit ESK-4548 UKP5 Shamen - LSI CD5 4trk inc Moby's US Dub mix COMACD7036 UKP3 Spectre - Covert Dub CD5 UK 6trk incl Orb mix UKP6 Ultramarine - Folk CD album orig 1990 Crepuscule issue TWI894-2 UKP8 Underworld - Jumbo CD5 5trk inc FK/Futureshock/Jedis mixes JBO50008313 UKP5 Underworld - King Of Snake CDR promo 2trk w/info sticker UKP7 Vapourspace - Vista Humana CD 7trk LIECD17 UKP4 Zion Train - Grow Together CD 13trk promo album UKP5 Zion Train - Healing Of The Nation CD5 4trk WOKCD2064 UKP3 various Apollo2 2CD (Global Comm, Subsurfing, Fehlmann..) R&S AMB5933CD UKP8 various Trance Atlantic 2CD set 24trk + 192p book UKP8 NEW ORDER & ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN - please email for separate lists Loads of other stuff available, Orbital, FSOL etc, please send want lists Postage is extra (cheap to addresses inside Scandinavia, expensive outside Europe, especially when it comes to 12"s...). If you find anything of interest, email me at: robert.elfving.6905@student.uu.se Please do not respond to the mailing list! thanks Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: RE: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 12 Mar 2000 20:40:06 +0100 Hmm...this is getting way of topic - sorry! Mark Lewis wrote about Shamen> "this might sound servere, but i don't rate anything they did after Wills tragic death in Tennarife." I'm curious - what happened down there...? /christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: (klf) Re: Small label success Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:27:08 +1100 Shilo & Michele Maggi wrote: > > > That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin Manson (hey - > > nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a few acts for Mr > > Eldritch to mess with too. > > Nothing also has Meat Beat Manifesto. Choice. And the new & future The The (his last unreleased album for Universal will be self-released next year), and left over from their signing of PWEI, Clint Mansell, though all his solo stuff has been on other labels so far (except for a few remixes). The proper solo LP is set to come out on Nothing eventually, though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Re: Small label success Date: 13 Mar 2000 09:17:13 +0100 > Shilo & Michele Maggi wrote: > > > > > That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin > Manson (hey - > > > nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a > few acts for Mr > > > Eldritch to mess with too. > > Have there been any other bands on Merciful Release *after* it was affiliated with WEA? In the early (greatest) days of the Sisters MR was a proper DIY indie label, and then they released records by, at least, The Danse Society and The March Violets. Both of these left to form their own labels, Society and Rebirth respectively..... both of which were snapped up by majors (Arista and Mercury(?)) before the bands fell apart with the demise of goth. Sniff! Sniff! The great sound of northern goth... not forgetting Rose of Avalanche. Wow! -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PHILIP WARD" <97146999@luton.ac.uk> Subject: (klf) klf stuff for sale/trade Date: 13 Mar 2000 12:06:46 -0000 I have reluctantly decided to part with the following vinyl items from my collection. I anyone on the list would like to have any (or all!) of these just make me an offer and i'll get back to you. Further info on each is available if needed. Cheers, Phil. KLF- WTIL (pure trance 1) 12" KLF004T KLF-3AM (pure trance 2) 12" KLF005T KLF-J & A 12" KLF 99X KLF-WTIL (live@trancental) 12" KLF004X KLF-America: WTIL 7" KLFUSA4 KLF-WTIL 7" KLF 004 KLF-LTTT (live from lost cont) 7" KLF 008 KLF-J &A 7" KLF99 KLF- 3AM 7" JAMMS- ITS GRIM UP NORTH 12" JAMS028R JAMMS- Shag times 2x12" JAMS DLP3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) This is what the KLF are about Video Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:17:50 +0100 Hello all, ive been swamped with people asking me for copies or ways to obtain the above video. As to avoid any unhappy people, can everyone interested in this send me a mail with 'i want # copy(ies) of the This is what the KLF are about Video' os i can make all the copies at the same time. Thanx Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price, shipping details Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:22:23 +0100 Me again, Price of copies will be : - $2 for the cost of the tape - $3 for renting the equipment - $2 for the time its going to take me to make them So a total of $7 per copy. - $3 for shipping in Europe, $5 for the rest of the world Since this video is PAL, i can only do PAL. Sorry for all you NTSC lovers. I will let each person know when their video has been made, and when its been shipped. My address is : Xavier Ehret 28 avenue de la resistance 92370 Chaville France Cheers Xav hope this is ok for most of you Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping Date: 13 Mar 2000 08:40:02 -0800 > Since this video is PAL, i can only do PAL. Sorry for all you NTSC lovers. *sigh* HAS anyone ever made an NTSC copy of this video? -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping details Date: 13 Mar 2000 08:49:22 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Shilo and Michele Maggi wrote: > HAS anyone ever made an NTSC copy of this video? > The price for conversion is a lot lower these days than it used to be, so buying the PAL video for $7 and paying about $20 or so to convert it isn't that bad a deal. Still cheaper than the thing went on Ebay. Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and make VCD's out of it. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:59:00 +0100 (CET) On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and make VCD's > out of it. ... or put it on web/FTP to free download =) (If is it possible, I can provide a space...) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) KLF vids Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:48:39 GMT Hi! Does anyone know where I could download high-quality mpeg KLF videos? Thanks, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) New Space reissue - update Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:58:09 EST This bounced back. Not sure why... > Got this today from AB-CD.com > > I'll let everyone know if it's legit or a boot when it arrives... > > -paul > > > The Klf and The Orb - Space CD... > > has finally arived... > [...] > > After canceling numerous orders due to > > the delay of this release we thought it was a good idea to e-mail > > everyone concerned # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) "This is what.." and "Space"-re-press Date: 14 Mar 2000 03:22:26 +0100 I post that to the list since I guess Xav hasn't the time to answer that personally (making copies will take some time..) :) "This is what the KLF are about" is not that thing which is on the "Stadium House"-Video (long version), isn't it? What is it then? How long? and so on.. Thanks! Simon btw.. someone told me that there _will be_ a re-press of "Space" but these people who will do this first collect the orders so that they know how much they have to press.. they're not the only one doing that this way although it is rather boring to wait so long. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:19:47 +0100 > Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and > make VCD's > out of it. Don't know 'bout the rest but I would prefer VCD's. At least the quality remains the same on a VCD. PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) KLF Font Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:32:21 +0000 I'm looking for a copy of Compacta Bold - can anyone help? Ta Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) KLF Video : MPEG ? Date: 14 Mar 2000 12:52:53 +0100 Due to numerous demands, i CAN make MPEG-4 transfers of the video to put on 2 or three CDROMS. But i have to know how many people prefer this to the VHS format, and if enough people are for this, then i will forget about tape transfer, and start working on a MPEG4 transfer. This also elimiates the NTSC problem. I cannot unfortunately do both formats, as i have a life to live and a business to run :) Ill just go with the majority on this. Please let me know ASAP. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:28:41 -0500 So I'm browing eBay and I come across this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person would have *all* of them. -- Adam J Weitzman, NewsEdge Corp. http://www.newsedge.com - http://www.individual.com "Humor is the best way of dealing with complete and utter nonsense." - John Lydon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Walter T Klingensmith" Subject: (klf) KLF Video: MPEG? Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:34:25 -0600 I would like the video xferred to MPEG format...instead of putting them on CD, could you make it possible for downloads...I think Adam H. said he had the space.. Think About It Walter T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:48:08 +0000 (GMT) Well my contact got back to me. Here's how the story goes, from the words of the owner of Echo Beach. He met Jimmy Cauty in Bristol one time (no doubt he was researching and doing deals with some dubheads for the other typical Echo Beach material), and they spoke about the Waiting video. Jimmy said that Mr Echo Beach (Nicolai) should do a video release, but he doesn't do videos -- Nicolai said he'd like to do just a CD release of the soundtrack. That's why it sounds as if it was mastered from the video - because it was. Jimmy spoke to Bill about it, but he wasn't interested in sanctioning the release on CD, so Jimmy said that Nicolai should just release it anyway, as he didn't mind it being 'out there'. So that's why it's "kindof" a bootleg. It isn't officially sanctioned by KLF Communications/Drummond, but Jimmy was happy for it to be issued (and it was almost entirely his work). None of this explains where the "Rites Of Mu" part came from... Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:04:40 +0000 Culf wrote: > Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. ..... and considering how many HMV on Oxford Street, London, had when I got mine I guess that most of those are kickng around Central London! Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 18:40:10 -0000 > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 > Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person > would have *all* of them. that's right , this guy is a fraud, i have a pair of labels myself and so do two other guys i know on the list, and i guess there are more list members out there who have some, so i hope the person getting the bid won't be paying too much. Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) New Space reissue - update Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:35:14 +0100 Sister ray www.sisterray.co.uk have the Space CD listed as well, for =A319.95 Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:39:02 -0000 Thanks for the info Culf, that's fantastic. I guess we must now think of WFTROM as an "official bootleg" or a "grey import" or something :) > Culf wrote: > > Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. Craig wrote: > ..... and considering how many HMV on Oxford Street, London, had when I got > mine I guess that most of those are kickng around Central London! Seems a low number, doesn't it? Mind, I've only seen one copy in a shop - I got mine mail order from a Record Collector magazine ad, and saw one copy in HMV, Hong Kong! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:25:08 -0500 Well, I emailed this person to say that (s)he isn't the only person on the planet with these labels. Let's see if (s)he does the right thing. -- Adam J Weitzman, NewsEdge Corp. http://www.newsedge.com - http://www.individual.com "Humor is the best way of dealing with complete and utter nonsense." - John Lydon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:11:55 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Adam J Weitzman > Sent: 14 March 2000 17:29 > To: KLF Mailing List > Subject: (klf) Here's an interesting one > > > > So I'm browing eBay and I come across this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 > > Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person > would have *all* of them. He doesnt. I have a pair, and i know of at least five other guys that have them too. Cheers XAv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 12:35:24 -0800 i dont think you can change your items description once its been bid on... ----- > > Well, I emailed this person to say that (s)he isn't the only person on > the planet with these labels. Let's see if (s)he does the right thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:03:12 -0000 > i dont think you can change your items description once its been bid on... I think you may be able to add to it, but can't actually remove or change anything that's already there. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) "This Is What The KLF Are About" Date: 15 Mar 2000 01:24:39 +0100 Someone can tell me something about "This Is What The KLF Are About"? Would be nice even I guess it was on the list before. cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: King Wilson Subject: Re: (klf) Mr Quahogs Date: 14 Mar 2000 22:43:23 -0600 > > > mr quahogs wrote > > > If more collage got played on the radio (I'm thinking plunderphonics, > > > Negativland, and the Evolution Control Committee), I'd fix the radio in >my > > > car. > > > > please help me out here, sorry if i'm being dumb but are these the names >of > > artist/bands. i am well interested just by there names. can you shed some > > light please... > >I have been really into audio collage music lately, music that uses a lot of >(sometimes only) samples from other sources. > >For info on the above examples: > >plunderphonics: www.6q.com >negativland: www.negativland.com evolution control committee: http://www.evolution-control.co A good place to look for things like this is Detritus.net They have links to many sample-friendly musicians. In particular, there's a link to the John Oswald/Plunderphonics archive (i don't remember it offhand) If you've never heard any of it before, you MUST check it out. He has a Doors track that will make your jaw hit the floor. I'm really suprised that I don't hear other bands mentioned more often on this list. It seems to be pretty exclusive to the club/techno crowd. Anyone here diggin the new Melvins album? How about that last Autechre ep? Phish's 7 hour New Year's set has been taking over my speakers, lately..... For the slightly subversive types, (and to plug myself) I'll say that I just put a very trance/bigbeat "remix" I made recently upon the Net. It's made entirely out of bits of Eddie Money's 'Baby Hold On To Me" and a 1970's Reelect President Johnson tv commercial. You can get it at emptmusics.freeservers.com read icculus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:38:15 +0100 I have yet to determine which format to make, so please dont send any money yet !! For now, its 4 people for the video and 8 for the MPEG format.... Ill leave it until the end of this week, and then make whatever has more votes. Pricing will of course be different for CDROMS. I will let the list know on Friday. I will also be making copies of The White Room Movie from a first generation tape, so the picture quality will be unparralleled to what has been circulating 'under the coat'. This will be also made in the same format as the 'this is what the KLF are about video'. For the people wanting a list of whats on it , here it is (taken from Lazlo's discog) : The KLF: This Is What The KLF Are About [1992] bootleg video compilation VHS: 1992 UK (Mike Dutton; N/A) 4:43 The KLF: America: What Time is Love (video) 3:43 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (stand by the jams) 3:59 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (radio edit) 7:22 The Rites of Mu (version 1) 12:52 The KLF: Stadium House Trilogy [including: 3:50 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l. - radio) 3:37 Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent) 4:03 What Time is Love? (live at trancentral-radio)] 2:20 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis 4:22 The KLF: Kylie Said to Jason [w/rare "Madrugada" mix] 1:57 The KLF: The White Room (promo clip) 3:53 The KLF: What Time is Love (version 1 - live at trancentral) 3:33 Disco 2000: Uptight (banana 2000) 3:37 Brilliant: Love is War 2:46 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 3:14 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 1) 3:09 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 2) 3:04 The KLF: Last Train to Trancentral (top of the pops) 3:44 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (top of the pops) 3:16 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (top of the pops) [Crowded House say "It's Grim Down South"] 3:51 Media Show Appearance 5:55 Rapido Appearance 5:25 The Word Appearance [Tammy only] 7:42 Reportage Appearance 5:58 Snub TV Appearance 42:15 Waiting 3:05 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis (top of the pops) 2:55 KLF vs ENT: 3 a.m. Eternal (the brits 92) 5:38 The KLF: What Time is Love (trance mix) 3:28 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (version 1 - live at the s.s.l.) 7:15 The Rites of Mu (version 2, mtv) 2:13 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 173:00 Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:55:02 +0100 > > For now, its 4 people for the video and 8 for the MPEG format.... IMHO, I prefer the video..I've already got Lars' mpeg-collection, and would rather have the videos on tape. Maybe it's just me, but there's something coll about watching it on your TV (for a change) instead of the monitor. - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:54:17 -0000 Thomas Helvard [mailto:cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com] wrote: > IMHO, I prefer the video..I've already got Lars' > mpeg-collection, and would > rather have the videos on tape. Maybe it's just me, but > there's something > coll about watching it on your TV (for a change) instead of > the monitor. wouldn't these video cds - if done correctly, paly on most dvd players? dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Fw: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:22:07 +0100 > Well, I don't have a DVD player and I would even be willing to pay Xavier a > little extra to make a VHS copy > > - Thomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Abel" > To: "'Thomas Helvard'" > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 1:53 PM > Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > > > > > > wouldn't these video cds - if done correctly, paly on most dvd players? > > > > dan > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:18:16 +0100 I'd like to have it on video too! Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) font Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:18:22 -0000 Compacta Bold PC or MAC? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:26:33 +0000 (GMT) Interesting thread, but a fundamentally flawed one, mostly on the definition of "indie" that some people have been using. Indie doesn't (well, rather, it originally didn't) have anything to do with the size of the label, or the style of the bands on it. Indie labels were independent labels merely by virtue of the fact that they were distributed by an indepdent distributor. As I recall, there were the "big three" distributors (but I can't remember much about them now), and then a smattering of these so-called independents. "Indie shops" were those who tended to stock releases from those indie distributors, and had good contacts. In the case of PWL for example, they were distributed by Pinnacle (I think), and thus were eligible for inclusion on the typical "indie" chart. KLF Communications were distributed by The Cartel, which was a co-operating cartel of smaller distributors, led mainly by the biggest, London-based Rough Trade (remember "The Chain With No Name" - Cartel-friendly indie shops?). There were a few others too. I'm not sure the term "indie" was defined back in the days of the Beatles, but if they were distributed by EMI, then they wouldn't have been classified as "independent". In later days (starting in the late 80s), "indie" became a term used to describe a particular style of jangly/dreary guitar-driven music that was popular, it being inherited from the indie-distributed labels of the times that tended to release it. This usage term gradually took over in popular conception, but as soon as bands started being signed to major labels, as happened in a sudden flurry when they realised that there was money to be made from this "indie" thing and they wanted their slice, the whole "indie" thing became a fallacy. The "indie" distributors gradually gave up, The Cartel disbanded (became just Rough Trade), were sold or taken over by majors, and the labels that were associated with them went much the same way. As far as I know, On-U Sound is the only label that could have originally have been called "indie" (although it had none of the aforementioned jangly/dreary guitar stuff) from that mid-80s boom era that is still going (but only just, and dormant for several years now) that is still truly independent. Rough Trade died a death, Factory died, Creation sold out to Sony years ago (and are now dead) ... Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kochas Forever Entertainment Subject: (klf) Drummond & Cauty to visit Poland Date: 15 Mar 2000 09:28:08 -0800 (PST) Everyone! No, that's a joke. I am Polish, and the thing is I'm looking for anyone who could help me with the KLF CDs. I mean CD-Rs. I'm interested in everything. I can make a real good deal with it. Waiting impatiently for any offers :-) Marcin (aka Kochas) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:17:41 -0000 Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If the CDs are written as VCDs I believe, yes, they will play in DVD players as well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in the US and Europe, on the proviso that each recipient with a CDR writer copies at least once on a blanks and postage basis for another list member. That would also leave Xav time to copy for those who want VHS. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:31:18 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Stephen Kennedy wrote: The VCD's fix the PAL/NTSC problem. If the PAL people want videos, more power to them, but a VCD would be easier for me... jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 20:37:28 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Kennedy > Sent: 15 March 2000 19:18 > To: KLF Mailing List > Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > > > Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - > why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If > the CDs are written as VCDs I believe, yes, they will play in DVD > players as > well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav > would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in > the US and > Europe, on the proviso that each recipient with a CDR writer > copies at least > once on a blanks and postage basis for another list member. That > would also > leave Xav time to copy for those who want VHS. > > Steve Hey steve, i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible to play in your living room DVD player. The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is a *VERY* sloppy format. I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and which makes for very crisp images. BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 11:41:22 -0800 I agree. And i'm even down for the copying tree thing. -s- > The VCD's fix the PAL/NTSC problem. If the PAL people want videos, > more power to them, but a VCD would be easier for me... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 19:52:33 -0000 > Hey steve, > > i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible > to play in your living room DVD player. > > The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is > a *VERY* sloppy format. > > I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and > which makes for very crisp images. > > BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. Coming into this quite late I have some initial questions: 1. What is the material being discussed? 2. Is it legal/out of copyright? Ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 20:12:30 -0000 > Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - > why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. I'm happy to play! I've never tried making video CDs on my kit, but I know the software I've got is supposed to cater for it. You might get better quality though going for standard MPEG files with a low compression ratio. By the way - to Xav - if a good copy of "The White Room" is to be included, then I'll got for it whatever format you do it on. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) London this weekend Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:05:41 PST Hello everybody! I`ll be in London for shopping and more on saturday-sunday-monday and I wonder If anyone on the list lives in or near London and would like to bring me on a night out? If someone would like to meet up to get a pint or five or go to club or a face to face chat about KLF or whatever, please contact me. Or maybe someone could tell me if there will be any great concerts or clubs to go to... . I´ve been alot in London but the last time I was there was back in 1996.. so I guess alot have happened in the club world of London since then. . . Whats the age limit at clubs and is there any special way to dress to get in? Also where would it be most likely to run into Bill or Jimmy? ;) Any special shops for KLF? I´ve been in the shops on Berwick street and Notting Hill gate, but I guess there are many more shops to have a look in? Is the new Drummond book "45" easy to find in the book shops? Any info will be appreciated, thanks - David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:54:13 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Xav Ehret wrote: > i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible > to play in your living room DVD player. > The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is > a *VERY* sloppy format. There are a number of programs that one can use to convert the file to VCD format, so I'd just be just as happy with the mpeg-4 as anything. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: Fw: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:13:01 PST The quality of a video tape recording will be alterated with time. I think the CD quality is better for a long time. And it's still possible to copy a CD on a video tape with the actual video cards, isn't it? donc puisque je te l'ai demande il n'y a pas longtemps Xav, quitte a avoir une copie de la video, autant que ce soit sur CD pour moi cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) video vs digital and others (reply to digest version) Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:23:54 +1100 hi all, RE: video vs mpeg >Due to numerous demands, i CAN make MPEG-4 transfers of >the video to put on 2 or three CDROMS. > >But i have to know how many people prefer this to the VHS format, and if >enough people are for this, then i will forget about tape transfer, and >start working on a MPEG4 transfer. I vote for digital over video if possible. >Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - >why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If i'm not 100% up2date on copying cd's but as i understand, it'll just be a 'data' cd just like any other 'burnt' cd. if so, i can copy a few for australians if needed. i dont have a burner myself, but have access to one on occasions. >well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav >would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in the US and >Europe, and Australia :) cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:12:43 +1000 Xav, >i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible >to play in your living room DVD player. > >The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is >a *VERY* sloppy format. > >I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and >which makes for very crisp images. > >BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. While I think what you are doing is an excellent idea I have to comment on the fact that it was a foregone conclusion that MPEG was going to win out over the video option for the simple fact that the vast majority of this list membership would be from North America and thus the NSTC/PAL problem will of course swing the vote in favour of the MPEG CD option. I for one would love to have it on video (so make my vote: VIDEO :-), but then i'm in Australia and we use PAL. One other point is I probably wouldn't buy the MPEG CDr because I know it'll make it's way to the net where of course with high enough band-width i'll get it for nothing. Regards, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! Date: 16 Mar 2000 03:25:02 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: John [mailto:turbo@zipworld.com.au] > Sent: 16 March 2000 03:13 > To: klf@xmission.com > Cc: Xav Ehret > Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! > > > Xav, > > >i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be > compatible > >to play in your living room DVD player. > > > >The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant > remember), which is > >a *VERY* sloppy format. > > > >I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and > >which makes for very crisp images. > > > >BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. > > While I think what you are doing is an excellent idea I have to comment on > the fact that it was a foregone conclusion that MPEG was going to win out > over the video option for the simple fact that the vast majority of this > list membership would be from North America and thus the NSTC/PAL problem > will of course swing the vote in favour of the MPEG CD option. I just wanted to see what kind of response a MPEG transfer would get...i for one thought the video would have gathered the most votes...i might actually end up doing both... > I for one would love to have it on video (so make my vote: VIDEO :-), but > then i'm in Australia and we use PAL. One other point is I probably > wouldn't buy the MPEG CDr because I know it'll make it's way to the net > where of course with high enough band-width i'll get it for nothing. Unfortunately, most people cant d/l 1.5 Gigs of video over the net.... For them, CDRs are the only solution...or waiting 1 month while the 28.8k modem does the deed... Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline Brymora Subject: Re: (klf) please dont send any money yet !! - Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:39:2 +1000 I vote digital, it is going to last in the long term. Video is nice but experience shows me that they deteriorate far too fast.... Being another aussie (we are all popping up today :) I agree with Brendan that if Xav gets one to each area then do the tree thing would be good. I will shortly have access to a burner (brother going to get one) so burning for other aussies not a problem. anyway that's my view from down here. Caroline __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 20:53:39 PST > >The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is >a *VERY* sloppy format. That totally depends on how you do it. DVD, which is universaly recognized and the best video format ever (except maybe D2 master tape or something) is, in fact, MPEG 2, so I think that pretty does away with the slopiness theory. As for MPEG1, I have some pretty nice looking MPEG1s. Some friends of mine and I all the HK pressings of Jet Li's "The Black Mask". I got the Laserdisc, my friend got the DVD, and my other friend bought the VCD. These were all made by the same company, and I think all came out at the same time, and I tell you the truth when I say that the VCD (the MPEG1) actually looks the best. It should have looked the worst, but obvioulsy the guys who do the mastering over at Mei Ah Laser Disk Company kinda suck.... So I guess what I'm tryign to say is, it depends on how you use the MPEG. If you compress it a lot, or your capturing device sucks, the video will be bad. But in general a good VCD, if you waste enough space, will look fine a normal TV. The pixilation you see on the computer screen disapears on a TV with less than 300 lines of resolution. > >I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and >which makes for very crisp images. I have some pretty elite software for video editing, and none of it outputs to MPEG4, or even MPEG 3. I remember Microsoft was calling thier .asx format MPEG4 a while ago, but that format wasn't any better looking, it just compressed better...supossedly, all the hightly compressed .asx's I've seen look really bad. What the heck is an MPEG4?, and who is pushing it? Is it actually aproved by the Motion Picture Experts Group (MPEG) or is it just some copyright juggling by another company? In short I vote for VCD. It negates the Pal/NTSC thing, it copies forver with no loss, it costs less to produce, and less to ship. You can play it in most DVD playes, and even Playstations, Playstation 2s, and 3DOs, and Sega Saturns...with the propper adapter anyway. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 21:06:36 +0000 > Coming into this quite late I have some initial questions: > > 1. What is the material being discussed? > [Inserted thanks to Lazlo's discog] The KLF: This Is What The KLF Are About [1992] bootleg video compilation VHS: 1992 UK (Mike Dutton; N/A) 4:43 The KLF: America: What Time is Love (video) 3:43 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (stand by the jams) 3:59 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (radio edit) 7:22 The Rites of Mu (version 1) 12:52 The KLF: Stadium House Trilogy [including: 3:50 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l. - radio) 3:37 Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent) 4:03 What Time is Love? (live at trancentral-radio)] 2:20 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis 4:22 The KLF: Kylie Said to Jason [w/rare "Madrugada" mix] 1:57 The KLF: The White Room (promo clip) 3:53 The KLF: What Time is Love (version 1 - live at trancentral) 3:33 Disco 2000: Uptight (banana 2000) 3:37 Brilliant: Love is War 2:46 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 3:14 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 1) 3:09 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 2) 3:04 The KLF: Last Train to Trancentral (top of the pops) 3:44 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (top of the pops) 3:16 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (top of the pops) [Crowded House say "It's Grim Down South"] 3:51 Media Show Appearance 5:55 Rapido Appearance 5:25 The Word Appearance [Tammy only] 7:42 Reportage Appearance 5:58 Snub TV Appearance 42:15 Waiting 3:05 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis (top of the pops) 2:55 KLF vs ENT: 3 a.m. Eternal (the brits 92) 5:38 The KLF: What Time is Love (trance mix) 3:28 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (version 1 - live at the s.s.l.) 7:15 The Rites of Mu (version 2, mtv) 2:13 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 173:00 > 2. Is it legal/out of copyright? Tricky one - all the orignal material may have one time been covered by copyright - however as it's now no longer available / has never been _commercially_ available, especially in its current format, then I guess it's a bit of a grey area. As no real money is being made out of this (ie people are doing it at a cost plus postage charge) I highly doubt (don't quote me though) that anyone would make an issue of it. Also as (again don't quote me) I think that if anyone is going to make an issue of it it has to be the people who actually own the copyright, ie Bill and Jimmy, who take up the case, and although there is a bit of BBC footage, and a bit of MTV footage, I can't see them being concerned enough to make an issue out of c.4 minutes of footage from nearly ten years ago. Just my 2 cents as a KLF fan, not my legal or professional opinion, or my personal position on Kopyright Liberation. Craig! .....sheesh....how many caveats....? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Fw: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 16 Mar 2000 10:36:47 +0100 > Many months ago, M/A/D wrote on behalf of Bill n' Jimmy, that they didn't > mind bootleg of never published / not available material floating around the > listmembers. As long as the material wasn't still commercially available > (for instance like the US White Room, History of the Jamms etc.). So I don't > see any problem distributing the video to the listmembers.It would have been > a different matter if it were sold in a store, but this is a sale between > private persons, and hey, how's BBC and MTV gonna find out anyway?? > > Just my 2 cents on the matter.... > > - Thomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Earnshaw" > To: "Ian" > Cc: "klf mailing list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > > I think that if anyone is going to make an issue of it it > > has to be the people who actually own the copyright, ie Bill and Jimmy, > who > > take up the case, and although there is a bit of BBC footage, and a bit of > > MTV footage, I can't see them being concerned enough to make an issue out > > of c.4 minutes of footage from nearly ten years ago. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 16 Mar 2000 05:57:04 EST > > Many months ago, M/A/D wrote on behalf of Bill n' Jimmy, that they didn't > > mind bootleg of never published / not available material floating around the > > listmembers. As long as the material wasn't still commercially available > > (for instance like the US White Room, History of the Jamms etc.). You know, I have absolutely no recollection of this... If we're taking votes I'm up for the cd. Easier to find what you want that way. I have a copy of Komplete Kollection which I believe is a copy of this video but I don't think the quality is comparable (an't say for sure, never seen a This is What version). I've been meaning to MPEG this but it's so far down on my list of priorities right now... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian j pardy Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 16:54:47 -0500 On Prickle-Prickle, the 1st of Discord, 3166, Stephen Kennedy wrote: > Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - > why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If > the CDs are written as VCDs I believe, yes, they will play in DVD players as > well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav > would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in the US and > Europe, on the proviso that each recipient with a CDR writer copies at least > once on a blanks and postage basis for another list member. That would also > leave Xav time to copy for those who want VHS. I'm in the US (Connecticut) and have a CDR (2x). I have no clue if my drive (Memorex CRW-1622) can do VCD, but I'd definitely be willing to help out a bit on this side of the pond. -- Sure there are dishonest men in local government. But there are dishonest men in national government too. -- Richard M. Nixon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian j pardy Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Date: 15 Mar 2000 16:52:54 -0500 On Prickle-Prickle, the 1st of Discord, 3166, Thomas Helvard wrote: > > For now, its 4 people for the video and 8 for the MPEG format.... > > IMHO, I prefer the video..I've already got Lars' mpeg-collection, and would > rather have the videos on tape. Maybe it's just me, but there's something > coll about watching it on your TV (for a change) instead of the monitor. I'd agree here and would love to get a copy of the video. -- QOTD: "If I could walk that way, I wouldn't need the aftershave." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:58:31 +0100 As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:05:37 +0000 > I was wonderong, how many nations are > represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) I'm in London (and New York - about a 50/50 split). Anyone interested in this - send either details to the list, or direct to me, and I'll produce a summary for all....... Ta Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:28:25 +0100 > As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all > over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are > represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) > > I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid > > - Thomas I'm thinking this'll create a lot of input :) Anyway, I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands at the moment, but I moved here from Norway about half a year ago.. So that's two nations more counted for? :) Peace, Kjetil FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:31:14 +0000 At 12:58 16.3.2000 +0100, Thomas Helvard wrote: >As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all >over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are >represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) > >I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid I'm from Iceland, and in case of burns, I got a plextor 8x here. quick little bastard :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net w00p! :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Mann Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:14:41 +0100 > As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all > over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are > represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) Heyaaa!!! i'm from Slovakia Peter KLFMANiK Mann=0A____________________________________=0AP. S. V. P. U.= =0Ahttp://www.pobox.sk/=0A=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Struan Grant Subject: RE: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:35:48 +0000 At 13:28 16.3.2000 +0100, Kjetil Limkjaer wrote: > >> As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all >> over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are >> represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) >> >> I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid I'm a Scot who moved from Sydney, Australia to Reykjavik, Iceland in search of genes - deCODE Genetics goes public on the NASDAQ in a couple of months - I strongly suggest a small flutter!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: FW: Message Bounce: RE: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:28:18 +0100 > I was wonderong, how many nations are represented on the list?? > > I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the > Little Mermaid > - Thomas Live in a place called Voeyenenga, to the west of Oslo, Norway. I'm originally English, from Southampton and for a while I too lived in Copenhagen. -Andy P.S. Thomas - den lille havfruen (the mermaid) isn't actually very impressive, is it? Now the Gefion fountain I do like though. -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) Klf- Space Re-issue Date: 16 Mar 2000 11:17:06 -0500 AB-CD just informed me that my copy of SPACE was shipped today. I'll let you know when I have it in my hands. -D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:26:12 +0100 I'm from Switzerland. cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:55:34 +0100 I live in V=E4xj=F6, Sweden... no place to buy sweet records or have any fun= . But I studied at the uni here and then ended up at a software company here. Tough break... =3D) //Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the =20 Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, =20 S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!"=20 SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: RE: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:54:19 -0500 Toronto, Ontario, Canada here... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 11:06:47 PST >As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from all >over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are >represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) > >I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid > >- Thomas Hello :-) Im swedish living in Visby gotland. In the middle of the off baltic sea.(wonderful summer realy stormy vinter 15m/s average) Wonderful place for me studing to engineer. Henrik Uddemar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo And Michele Maggi Subject: (klf) 2K Date: 16 Mar 2000 11:09:31 -0800 if anyone cares, theres a F*ck the Millenium goodie bag up for auction at Yahoo... (Not mine) http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/19817701 -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Pritchard" Subject: (klf) Video Interest Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:49:05 -0000 Hi, If anyone is interested in getting video copies of the 'Omnibus' documentary, give me an email for more details. Many thanks, Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:01:14 +0000 (GMT) On Thu 16 Mar, Thomas Helvard wrote: > I was wonderong, how many nations are represented on the list?? (and > how many members are there really?) I'm mostly from Manchester and York, England. _Extremely_ dull compared to pretty much everybody else's answer so far... (apologies to anyone else from Manchester or York!) Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:02:17 +0100 I'm from Hungary. Attila PS: Anoher thing: Do you know guys that the guitar solo in the Baton Rouge Rock and some tracks on Chill Out is the Edward Van Halen's "Eruption"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdrich@juno.com Subject: Re: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:58:35 -0500 Detroit, Michigan in the good old USA. CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:10:59 +0100 (CET) Pilsen, capital of beer, Czech republic. -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Paukstadt Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:17:08 +0100 (CET) HY HY (near) Heidelberg, Germany, Europe BYtE Oli --- Disclaimer: Life sucks and then you die. president@trancentral.org http://klf.trancentral.org/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alexander Janzer Subject: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:24:01 +0100 Originally from Kazhakstan (now that's quite exotic, I guess) - now in Bavaria, Germany. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Moore Subject: (klf) Direct Metal Masters Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:25:53 -0700 Maybe if I had a spare 400 to kick around.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=284617303 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:37:19 +0100 Stockholm, Sweden. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) Space re-issue and nation Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:47:23 -0500 In case anyone needs the info... http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1/SPACECD1?quRhUs4N;;242 It's available. They have it in stock. Oh, and BTW, Columbus, Ohio USA. -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Walter T Klingensmith" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:52:26 -0600 Chicago Illinois USA here.... Walter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:12:57 -0800 (PST) That's the same guy who swore he had the only copies of those labels too. No feedback...wonder if it's a scam. Or it could be Cauty/Drummond :) Did anyone who called his bluff on the labels get a response?? I'm in Newberg, Oregon, USA and started on this list in 1992-ish. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (klf) Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 16:20:23 -0500 Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > That's the same guy who swore he had the only copies of those labels too. > No feedback...wonder if it's a scam. > > Did anyone who called his bluff on the labels get a response?? Yeah, he emailed me back to say that he got a little "egregious" in his description and wanted to change it, but couldn't figure out how, so he cancelled the auction. Presumably he'll start it up again with a better description. He seemed reasonable about the whole thing. -- Adam J Weitzman, NewsEdge Corp. http://www.newsedge.com - http://www.individual.com "Humor is the best way of dealing with complete and utter nonsense." - John Lydon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Re: nations Date: 16 Mar 2000 22:35:33 +0100 At 21:24 2000-03-16 , you wrote: >Originally from Kazhakstan (now that's quite exotic, I guess) - now in >Bavaria, Germany. Ja, in Bavaria wo die b=E4ume sind auf holz und die (mountains in plurals, i= s it birge?) sind hoch! =3D) Love that sketch! Too bad my german sucks in paramount proportions =3D) //Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the =20 Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, =20 S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!"=20 SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Here's an interesting one Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:40:14 -0600 I knew I had some labels at home too. I wasn't sure which ones I had, so I checked them last night. They were "Turn Up The Strobe". So I'm browing eBay and I come across this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person would have *all* of them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:00:31 +1000 Xav, >> >i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be >> compatible >> >to play in your living room DVD player. >> > >> >The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant >> remember), which is >> >a *VERY* sloppy format. >> > >> >I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and >> >which makes for very crisp images. >> > >> >BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. >> >> While I think what you are doing is an excellent idea I have to comment on >> the fact that it was a foregone conclusion that MPEG was going to win out >> over the video option for the simple fact that the vast majority of this >> list membership would be from North America and thus the NSTC/PAL problem >> will of course swing the vote in favour of the MPEG CD option. > >I just wanted to see what kind of response a MPEG transfer would get...i for >one thought the video would have gathered the most votes...i might actually >end up doing both... Well I didn't mean to have a whinge, even though it came across like I was, sorry. You can do what you like as it's a free world and you are doing us all the favour. I for one appreciate your efforts! ...And if teh video version eventuates I will buy a copy from you. >> I for one would love to have it on video (so make my vote: VIDEO :-), but >> then i'm in Australia and we use PAL. One other point is I probably >> wouldn't buy the MPEG CDr because I know it'll make it's way to the net >> where of course with high enough band-width i'll get it for nothing. > >Unfortunately, most people cant d/l 1.5 Gigs of video over the net.... For >them, CDRs are the only solution...or waiting 1 month while the 28.8k modem >does the deed... Yeah sometimes with great access courtesy of work I forget that this is not the normal situation for most people, but I think you'll fast find that cable modems and the likes are making inroads. They are here in Australia, but then Australians have always been early adopters of technology. Cheers, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:48:35 EST > That's the same guy who swore he had the only copies of those labels too. > No feedback...wonder if it's a scam. > > Or it could be Cauty/Drummond :) First, notice that the labels ended way early. End date is listed as 3/20 but it ended at two days - which I don't even think is an option for eBay length. I thnk he pulled it after people emailed about the misrepresentation... Secondly, this guy seems to have access to a lot of rare stuff. Thirdly, he's on AOL*. Fourthy (i really didn't mean to get up this high but it's just flowing now), anyone who has an actual copy of Arkive1 will tell you that inside are scans of the labels for Turn Up the Strobe and E Train to Trancentral (sorry just noticed this, otherwise I would have brought it up during the E Train discussion). Fifthly, Arkive was produced by DUTTON! Dammit Dutton, send me my cds! (* dutton was on aol) > Did anyone who called his bluff on the labels get a response?? Doubt it, but I could try... -paul Los Angeles here. well, close enough # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Elfving Subject: (klf) Re: Direct Meta/et al Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:05:56 +0100 At 05:48 PM 3/16/00 EST, TheMgnt wrote: >Thirdly, he's on AOL*. So are you, "Paul"! ** >Arkive was produced by DUTTON! >Dammit Dutton, send me my cds! (* dutton was on aol) Sorry, don't waste your time harassing this guy, I know him and he's not Dutton! MIKE IF YOU READ THIS, CAN YOU FINALLY GET YOUR ASS TOGETHER AND SEND PEOPLE THE STUFF YOU OWE THEM, INCLUDING ME! ** Maybe Mgnt is Dutton... "Paul Dutton"... Sorry, that was a joke. :) Finally, an addition to my sale list: ENERGY-DJ's In The House compilation CD including exclusive Build A Fire-Lenny D mix (+ other great tracks by Mr C etc) ukp 12 Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:10:24 -0600 ...never got my CDs from Dutton either. Don Dallas, Texas USA Fifthly, Arkive was produced by DUTTON! Dammit Dutton, send me my cds! (* dutton was on aol) > Did anyone who called his bluff on the labels get a response?? Doubt it, but I could try... -paul Los Angeles here. well, close enough # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Elfving Subject: (klf) Dutton again Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:20:50 +0100 I just found Dutton's page by the way, He's apparently broadened his scope to include even more Arkives, look: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > CDK Series > >1200 This is Full Frequency Range Recording. The Classic 'K' series. Here's the URL: http://www.duttonlabs.demon.co.uk/ cheers Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline Brymora Subject: Re: (klf) nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:24:56 +1000 Original message from: Craig Earnshaw about 70km (that's around 110 miles for the metrically challenged...) from Sydney, Australia cheers Caroline __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:13:58 EST > >Thirdly, he's on AOL*. > > So are you, "Paul"! ** Guess I didn't make my point clearly... i was rushing... Dutton last known email address was MWD586@aol.com... -paul who still says AOL is illuminati related. look at their logo! is it no wonder they're taking over everything? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Dutton again Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:19:24 EST In a message dated 3/16/00 3:21:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, robert.elfving.6905@student.uu.se writes: > I just found Dutton's page by the way, > > He's apparently broadened his scope to include even more Arkives, look: > Here's the URL: > http://www.duttonlabs.demon.co.uk/ Not that Dutton, but you had me going there. This guy created the This is What the KLF is ABout video currently being proffered, Arkive 1 and 2 (on cdr) and was currently offering Waiting and WR: Original Soundtrack cds before he went awol again. He was either a rabid KLF fan or had connections. Did anyone ever get a copy of those last two from him? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caroline Brymora Subject: Re: (klf) nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:58:36 +1000 sorry guys I got my numbers wrong, does that mean I am imperially challenged? (timesed by 1.6 instead of divided...) so much for that degree in Mathematics.... Forgive me please :) Caroline __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 04:10:25 +0200 Hi - Tel-Aviv, Israel. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:24:20 +0800 HONG KONG... http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:30:28 PST >I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid > I live in Midland, Michigan USA. Home of Dow Chemical corp, makers of Agent Orange. Boy am I proud..... Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Direct Meta/et al Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:08:01 PST > > > >Thirdly, he's on AOL*. > > > > So are you, "Paul"! ** > Well to be completly honest, AOL members deserve a lot of the distrusts they get. While I know several people on AOL that are actually cool (OK, maybe two or three) I have met so many flakers, lamers, ect that it's no wonder that AOL is banned from certain mailing lists. If ebay forbids a Hotmail address for bidding, then I could understand if they, or private ebay sellers, forbid AOL as well. In fact about 3/4 the time anyone pisses me off online, it's from a AOLer. You have to wonder why they are #1. They charge more than any other ISP in America, and all you get in return is a really crappy browser, an instant messaging service that you can DL for free outside the network, a little censorship (can't say Chicken Breast in a all ages AOL chatroom), and a serious stigma from people like me regarding your email domain. Too add to thier worthlesness, they now send out free copies of thier browser on CDs instead of flopies! Now I can't even re-format the disk and get some use out of those scrubs! But banning AOLers from ebay would probably be suicide since ebay makes so much money of sellers who pay fees on items that never got payed for because some AOLer flaked. Boy do I degress..... Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 16 Mar 2000 21:19:38 PST > >HONG KONG... > >http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge > Hey! I'm on that ML too! Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravn, Jeppe" Subject: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 07:48:20 +0100 Hi Guys, I am also from Copenhagen, Denmark Best Regards/Med venlig hilsen Jeppe Ravn Account Manager Kongevejen 2 3460 Birker=F8d tlf: 70287028 dir: 70287554 mobil: 23337554 email: jeppe.ravn@compaq.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:20:01 +0100 > Original message from: Craig Earnshaw > > about 70km (that's around 110 miles for the metrically challenged...) > from Sydney, Australia > Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the other way around; 1 mile is about 1.6 km so that 70 miles is about 110 km PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dusan Semen Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 01:49:29 +0100 I'm from Brezice (around 100km from our capital, Ljubljana), Slovenia, Europe :))))). Bye, Dusan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Juul" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:22:50 +0100 From Odense in Denmark. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:23:59 +0000 Bath, England. Tourist season has just started and there are French students everywhere. Nigel Armstrong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:30:01 -0000 I live in the South West of England, very near to where Jimmy had his Advanced Acoustic Weaponry stationed. My office, however, is about 20 minutes from Aylesbury, near London. Anyone who has read '45' will know the relevance of that! And no, I am not going to look for his farm, but I may well pay a visit to the library there. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" Subject: RE: (klf) nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:38:12 -0000 Oxford, England Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Re: Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 06:03:26 -0500 (EST) Orlando , Florida Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Frank den Bieman" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:10:52 +0100 Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: (klf) all these nation e-mail Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:09:34 -0000 Is it just annoying me that my mail box is filling up with these posts? If so them fair enough. But didn't some one say to mail him personally and he would collate and present the results? dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CeCe Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:07:25 +0100 (CET) Veszprem, Hungary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs!" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 07:23:51 -0600 > I'm from Brezice (around 100km from our capital, Ljubljana), Slovenia, > Europe :))))). > > Bye, > > Dusan Hey, two of my favorite bands are from Ljubljana: Laibach and Rambo Amadeus. Me, I'm just in Cincinnati, Ohio, USA. --Quahogs-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Nusbaum" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 07:51:37 -0500 Baltimore, Maryland... The Crab Kingdom! Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerome L." Subject: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:13:07 +0100 Paris, France. Paris, f***ed the millenium countdown ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Markku M{lkki Subject: (klf) Re: Nations on the list Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:59:28 +0200 (EET) Finland, Finland, Finland (sung in Michael Palin s voice...) M.M=E4lkki mm56306@uta.fi Believe it or not! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) 1987 reissue? Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:08:15 -0600 jams the justified ancients of mumu lp £ 10.99 reissue? of the classic 1987 album - I just saw this on the Rough Trade new releases list. I wonder where this one is coming from. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond - "45" - Signed Copies Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:47:35 -0000 A large online shop I am a regular customer of is selling "45" for 10 pounds and 40 pence including postage in the UK (international orders are accepted but P&P is extra, IIRC). The interesting thing is that the books front page has a little message next to the price saying "Signed Copies Available". I've ordered a copy and sent a seperate email asking for a signed copy, we'll see what happens! If anyone is interested - the price is also the best I've found on the web - please ask me for the URL. I get a little bonus for recommending people (which is not my motivation, and has no effect on the price - this is a pretty big shop) otherwise I'd just post the details here... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 reissue?/Space Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:43:12 -0000 > jams the justified ancients of mumu lp 10.99 reissue? of the classic 1987 > album - > > I just saw this on the Rough Trade new releases list. I wonder where this > one is coming from Doesn't anyone know where these "reissues" are coming from? Has anyone received their copy of Space yet? If these are on-the-sly reissues by Bill & Jimmy (they need the money or something) I'll have to invest, but if as I suspect they're bootlegs then I won't... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 reissue?/Space Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:00:53 EST > > jams the justified ancients of mumu lp 10.99 reissue? of the classic 1987 > > album - > Doesn't anyone know where these "reissues" are coming from? Has anyone > received their copy of Space yet? If these are on-the-sly reissues by Bill & > Jimmy (they need the money or something) I'll have to invest, but if as I > suspect they're bootlegs then I won't... I should be getting my Space early next week (unless the mail delievery improves). While I can understand Space being reissued I can't understand how 1987 could be reissued, unless ABBA changed their mind. Also, I thought they were ordered to destroy the masters? Then again, how else could they have released The Edits unless they still had them. This better not be reissued legally 'cos I just paid out the ass for an original! -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 reissue?/Space Date: 17 Mar 2000 23:04:07 -0000 > > Doesn't anyone know where these "reissues" are coming from? Has anyone > > received their copy of Space yet? If these are on-the-sly reissues by Bill > & > > Jimmy (they need the money or something) I'll have to invest, but if as I > > suspect they're bootlegs then I won't... > > I should be getting my Space early next week (unless the mail delievery > improves). While I can understand Space being reissued I can't understand > how 1987 could be reissued, unless ABBA changed their mind. Also, I thought Very good point, which points to a new bootlegging project - unless it's an "official bootleg", a bit like Waiting For The Rights/Rites Of Mu?? > they were ordered to destroy the masters? Then again, how else could they > have released The Edits unless they still had them. Without accusing anyone of anything :) I daresay a copy of the masters was retained by someone in the production chain :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:23:49 PST Hello everybody, just got off the phone with Torsten Pattberg who´s in London ( I´ll be there in 5 hours too) and said that HMV had 50 lps of the new 1987 in stock.. . At least thats what I think he said... David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 18 Mar 2000 00:49:00 EST > just got off the phone with Torsten Pattberg who=B4s in London ( I=B4ll be= =20 there=20 > in 5 hours too) and said that HMV had 50 lps of the new 1987 in stock.. . > At least thats what I think he said... So... one of you Londoners is headed there right now to check 'em out and=20 report back... right? :) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:37:40 PST >just got off the phone with Torsten Pattberg who´s in London ( I´ll be >there >in 5 hours too) and said that HMV had 50 lps of the new 1987 in stock.. . >At least thats what I think he said... Ahh! I want one of these! Where the heck all these bootlegs coming from? Wouldn't it be cool if I could get Space on vinyl!?! I'm psyched, sorry. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: (klf) More Dutton dittoing. Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:55:10 +1100 I got screwed by Dutton too, and know another lister in Sydney in the same dinghy. I remember last time he appeared, he was hollering that there were only about five people that were still waiting on him, no? Seems we've had plenty more than that speak up in the last few days... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Dutton Nation Date: 18 Mar 2000 10:29:09 -0000 I didn't as badly as some out of Mike D. I ordered copies of the two Arkive CDs and a photocopy of the White Room script. I got both CDs but never received the script despite a few reminders - I know the text of it is on the net, so I've not lost that much. I may really come to regret offering this, but if there's anyone out there who ordered the CDs but didn't get them and who hasn't managed to get a copy via some other means then I'd be happy to copy mine. I don't know what the best mechanism for sorting this out would be. This is all off the top of my head, I haven't costed this out or anything, but I could probably do them for about two pounds a disc including P&P within the UK - slightly more, obviously, if I had to post them anywhere else. Alternatively, I could just ask for people to send me blank CDs. Or maybe Stephen Kennedy's CD tree suggestion would work well here too. Anyway, if anyone wants to take me up on the offer, email me and I'll wait a week or so to gauge the interest before doing anything. If anyone has any other suggestions on good wasy to propogate the CDs, let me know too. Cheers, Simon. P.S. Dudley in the UK (near Birmingham) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig G Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) all these nation e-mail Date: 18 Mar 2000 10:43:18 +0000 > Is it just annoying me that my mail box is filling up with these posts? > If so them fair enough. But didn't some one say to mail him personally > and he would collate and present the results? Yup - that was me. Direct to me is probably better than to the entire list. Thinking about keeping the list open until Friday (24th) and then posting results. Have been surprised by the results so far........ Ta Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MarkGRTurner@cs.com Subject: Re: (klf) Dutton Nation Date: 18 Mar 2000 07:25:45 EST I also did OK out of Mike Dutton. I recieved the' 'Waiting some more' and the 'TWROST plus mixes/demos' CDRs. It seems that a lot of people didn't. Unfortunately I don't have a CD burner. If some-one is setting up a tree or some other arrangement I would be happy to contribute these two to the pile. Not having a CD burner isn't very helpful I know. Having the material must be. So if any-one is going ahead with something please contact me. Mark T PS: Thanks for the reply Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) Fw: nations Date: 18 Mar 2000 13:52:37 -0000 i'm from usk a small town near cardiff (sort of) which is the capital of wales (pays de gales) uk. i live in cardiff now though... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Lund Thomsen Subject: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 18 Mar 2000 16:05:57 +0100 (Time to delurk... proper introduction later =)) I own a JVC VideoCD player and on several occasions I have hooked it up to my VCR and recorded a copy of some movie. As someone mentioned earlier VHS does unfortunately have a tendency to deteriorate. In short: do digital "backups" of any KLF-related material. Getting it from there onto VHS is a minor hassle. /Jan Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark C=64/PalmPilot/KLF/Oldschool Cartoons/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy. -------------------- Email: kwed@kwed.org ---- WWW: http://kwed.org ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig G Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 18 Mar 2000 15:37:00 +0000 > > just got off the phone with Torsten Pattberg who=B4s in London ( I=B4= ll be > there > > in 5 hours too) and said that HMV had 50 lps of the new 1987 in stoc= k.. . > > At least thats what I think he said... > > So... one of you Londoners is headed there right now to check 'em out a= nd > report back... right? OK - Been there - done that! 1987 - about 30 copies GBP17.99 on CD but.... even better.... Chill Out - about 25 copies (maybe more not on display) on __VINYL__ for GBP15.99 Appears to be a rerelease by someone else, as I think the name of the distributer on the album cover was listed as Cartel, not KFL Communicatio= ns. Both may be available from either the HMV website (www.hmv.com I guess), = but more likely if you call the store direct on +44 171 631 3423 I'm sure tha= t they'll be able to send them out for a small additional P&P charge. Thanks Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) Space Reissue Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:36:54 -0500 I can confirm the Space Reissue does exist. I just received it in the mail this morning. Inlay says "Written and Produced by Space for KLF Communications (J. Cauty) E.G. Music Recorded at Trancentral". Also..."Made in England..Distributed by the Cartel". I'll post scans of the CD inlays later this afternoon or tomorrow. Sound Quality is exceptional. It had to be taken from the masters. "Official" bootleg or not, it's a must for any KLF fan/collector/completist and much better, pardon my pun, than the mp3 of Space floating around. My copy is from www.ab-cd.com. More to follow...watch this SPACE. -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 18 Mar 2000 13:45:20 EST > Chill Out - about 25 copies (maybe more not on display) on __VINYL__ for > GBP15.99 That's right... I remember someone mentioning this awhile back... > Appears to be a rerelease by someone else, as I think the name of the > distributer on the album cover was listed as Cartel, not KFL Communications. Their originals list distribution by the Cartel... Hopefully I will be getting my Space cd today as well so I can check. Even if it is a boot, as long as it copies the original cd I doubt we could tell... I have my doubts on this 1987, however, for reasons I've stated earlier... Craig, did you happen to pick one up? I'd be interested in the sound quality... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig G Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 18 Mar 2000 19:05:23 +0000 > I have my doubts on this 1987, however, for reasons I've stated earlier... > Craig, did you happen to pick one up? I'd be interested in the sound > quality... I beg humble forgiveness / recognition of my stupidity from all.... In my previous post I rambled on about copies of 1987 being in HMV - wrong - I should have been talking about The History of The JAMS. I didn't spot any copies of 1987. Sorry for leading anyone up the garden path (or on any other metaphorically pointless journey...) Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Space reissue/original comparisons Date: 18 Mar 2000 15:50:38 EST Just as I had received word from AB-CD that the Space cd I had ordered was a no show, someone offered me a copy of his original. I now have both, including hi-res scans... The new cd is virtually identical to the original with the noted exceptions: - the new version's graphics are blurrier than the original, less in focus - the back is missing the line KLF COMMUNICATIONS 1990 otherwise everything else is reasonably recreated: - bar code number is exactly the same, which is pretty much proof for me that this is a bootleg. A reissue by a different label would have a different number. The font of the bar code number is different. - the picture on the back, while smaller in the new version, reveals more of the picture. The bottom point of the image starts at the same point, however the upper point ends at the same point as the LP version (which also shows more of the bottom). Did that make sense? While I haven't listened to it yet, I can say that it is two seconds shorter, roughly. The original has a beat of silence before the opening "ten ... nine .." while the new version clips the very beginning of the word "ten". Boot. But a very well made one. Purists may still want to seek out an original cd and pay a high price, but for the rest of us just interested in getting a quality recording, this is the one to get. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) See the Space Reissue CD Date: 18 Mar 2000 16:00:25 -0500 I popped up a quick page with scans of the new SPACE Reissue CD. If anyone wants to take a look, it's at: http://www.poppad.com/space.htm I kept the scans failry large, so it may take a bit to load. -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) HMV Date: 18 Mar 2000 14:27:54 PST hello everybody HMV on Oxford circus has about 30 CHill Out lps and 25 1987 lps... Didn't see any 1987 cds though that someone mentioned.. . Sister Ray rules, they had alot of good stuff, even though Torsten Pattberg was there before me and bought some records. But I can't find the Zoo uncaged cd compilation anywhere, damn. . . I've been here in London ten hours and 've already burned 100 UKP on book and records.. . David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig G Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 00:05:55 +0000 > HMV on Oxford circus has about 30 CHill Out lps and 25 1987 lps... > Didn't see any 1987 cds though that someone mentioned.. . Ah.... I was looking in HMV Oxford Street - tomorrow I'll be in HMV Oxford Circus...... Never mind Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) The Cartel/Independent Distribution in the UK Date: 19 Mar 2000 01:55:11 +0100 Hi there Someone knows what is the situation today with independent distributions in the UK. As far as I know The Cartel isn't alive anymore, is it? There were about three independent distributors around 1991; and today? sorry if that has already been discussed here.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Hutchins Subject: (klf) Space CD Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:38:14 -0500 Judging from demitrius's scans, this appears to actually be a reissue of the 1993 bootleg from the discography. Others on the list that own the 1993 Space bootleg I'm sure can confirm this. -- Dan T. Hutchins # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 19 Mar 2000 03:41:28 -0000 > (Time to delurk... proper introduction later =)) > > I own a JVC VideoCD player and on several occasions I have hooked it up to > my VCR and recorded a copy of some movie. As someone mentioned earlier VHS does > unfortunately have a tendency to deteriorate. > > In short: do digital "backups" of any KLF-related material. Getting it from > there onto VHS is a minor hassle. Also within a few years we'll all have DVD players, and most of them (all?) will play VCD. My only concern is quality? How does a quality VCD compare with a VHS video? Not very well I guess? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Space reissue/original comparisons Date: 19 Mar 2000 03:55:00 -0000 > Boot. But a very well made one. Purists may still want to seek out an > original cd and pay a high price, but for the rest of us just interested in > getting a quality recording, this is the one to get. What's the cheapest anyone's paid so far, as from what I've heard it's not exactly a bargain? I'd like to have it, but if it's pushing 20 quid may have to go with the third more-cash-strapped option of sticking with my CDR! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) I've got my signed copy of 45! Date: 19 Mar 2000 06:21:35 -0000 My copy of 45 has arrived from that online retailer I mentioned and it is indeed signed! I'm quite chuffed about this as the mention of 45 on their front page had gone as had any reference to signed copies. What's even more miraculous is that it must have been left by the postman on the doorstep yesterday morning without me knowing, and was still there this morning when I popped out to the corner shop. Now, considering I left in the centre of town and last night was Saturday night I think that is getting on for amazing. The people of Cheltenham I salute you :) One small worry, it was a dew/frost this morning and the outer package was a bit moist. The book seems alright, but it has quite a few large speckled marks on it - I'm not sure whether they're printed or whether it's damaged. I think it's printed, but could anyone tell me what the cover of their copy is like? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) I've got my signed copy of 45! Date: 19 Mar 2000 06:54:41 -0000 > I popped out to the corner shop. Now, considering I left in the centre of "left" should of course have read "live". Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 19 Mar 2000 02:05:03 EST > Also within a few years we'll all have DVD players, and most of them (all?) > will play VCD. My only concern is quality? How does a quality VCD compare > with a VHS video? Not very well I guess? It should be noted that while the vast majority of DVD players can play Video CDs, not all can read recordable cds. In fact very few can. They can not take the intensity of the DVD laser. Attempting to do so may allow you to view the cd once, but after that you have another coaster for your bar. -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 17:39:59 +0000 (GMT) Dear all; Well everyone's gone quiet on the 1987/HMV front but I can confirm they are the genuine article (as far as I can see and I have examined by friend's real copy of got in 87) or at least new genuine pressings. They have the proper black 1987 sleeve (not the red one on those vinyl bootlegs) and side 1 and 2 the right way round. Crucially they don't have the crackles in the same places as the CD bootlegs I have got/heard so they CANNOT have been mastered off a CD someone had about and though they'd make a quick buck off. If anyone does have a 1987-bought copy of 1987 could they tell me what's scratched into the vinyl in the run-out groove? This says 'JAMSLP 1 A' and 'JAMSLP 1 B' in typed letters (as opposed to written by hand which some vinyl used to have) with the spacing as I have indicated. So let me recap; HMV on Oxford Street in London (the bigger one near the Tottenham Court Road end) have 1987 by the JAMS the real deal (to the best of my knowledge) for UKP10.99. They have about 10 left! Don't ask me where the shop is check out http://www.hmv.co.uk phone numbers are on there. Also http://www.roughtrade.com seem to have some and you can order online from there. Same price from Rough Trade. Oh HMV also have Chill Out on vinyl as well; that's real as well as far as I can see although (obviously) I didn't have my copy with me so could not compare matrix numbers etc. That's not as collectable though; really CD is the best way to hear Chill Out in my opinion and as we all know that's easy to get on CD. I suspect what's happened is that, rather like the Doctorin The Tardis VCD, someone has discovered a bunch of these somewhere (maybe in an HMV warehouse) and they're selling them off. Just a guess though. I didn't want to ask anyone in the shop in case it rang any bells and suddenly the shop manager realised they should not be selling them as they don't want to upset the copyright powers that be. HMV is owned by what is now or will soon be AOL Time Warner EMI. That parent company wouldn't like this too much I suspect if they knew. Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 19:07:41 +0100 > If anyone does have a 1987-bought copy of 1987 could they tell me = what's > scratched into the vinyl in the run-out groove? This says 'JAMSLP 1 A' > and 'JAMSLP 1 B' in typed letters (as opposed to written by hand which > some vinyl used to have) with the spacing as I have indicated.=20 >=20 My original 1987 have this: MPO JAMS LP 1 A1=20 MPO JAMS LP 1 B1 So it seems that it's not the same batch! Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) Space CD Date: 19 Mar 2000 08:20:16 +0100 =20 > Judging from demitrius's scans, this appears to actually be a reissue = of > the 1993 bootleg from the discography. Others on the list that own = the > 1993 Space bootleg I'm sure can confirm this. =20 Yes - the scan is identical with the 1993 CD-bootleg, right down to the = number of the barcode. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 19:08:11 -0000 > If anyone does have a 1987-bought copy of 1987 could they tell me what's > scratched into the vinyl in the run-out groove? This says 'JAMSLP 1 A' > and 'JAMSLP 1 B' in typed letters (as opposed to written by hand which > some vinyl used to have) with the spacing as I have indicated. Well, I didn't buy my copy at the time, but I'm pretty sure it's genuine. Mine says JAMS LP 1 A1 and JAMS LP 1 B1 (the 1s after the A and B are smaller and superscripted). These are scratched in by hand. Also the letters MPO appear on each side. For the record, my copy of the red-sleeve bootleg has 1LP A 1 and 1LP B 1 and the letters BF on both sides. These are typed. Cheers, Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: RE: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 19 Mar 2000 20:19:12 +0100 Thomas Helvard wrote> "As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a = lot of people from all over the world are responding..I was wonderong, = how many nations are represented on the list?? (and how many members are = there really?)" Yeah...Denmark rules! I live there too - in the city of Aalborg (up = north...where its grim, ya know...:-) Regards, Christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 14:00:47 PST >My original 1987 have this: >MPO JAMS LP 1 A1 >MPO JAMS LP 1 B1 > Mine too ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) Das vcd or das video> Date: 19 Mar 2000 15:56:14 PST I personally am for a nice vcd or 2 due to the fact I only have a NTSC vcr and I'm sure this video would be PAL [And anyone I know in the UK who WOULD make a swp to NTSC for me would charge a fortune :( ] That's my 2 cents. Mr. Flewin Tknomncr@Hotmail.Com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) Video : whats going to happen... Date: 20 Mar 2000 01:26:31 +0100 Ok, due to huge interest, i decided to wait the whole week end before taking a decision. The result is : the tape will be released in MPEG, on 2 to 3 CDROMS..... ..AND in VHS PAL TAPE(S) when i get time to make them. I will not be making a tree out of VHS tape, because once we get past second generation tapes, the quality will seriously degrade. We wont have this problem with the CDROMS. I will be taking a maximum of 20 orders for CDROMs, FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED. ONE COPY OF EACH MAX PER PERSON. I sincerely hope that these 20 people will make every effort to propagate these CDs as best they can. I wish i could make more, but my time is limited and i cant spare any more on this project. People who can make copies for others, please specify so in your mail. You wont get any preferential treatment, but at least i will know how many of you will be copying these out.... So, anyone interested by : MPEG of "This is what the KLF are about" - approx 4 hours long MPEG of "The White Room Movie" - 1st generation tape, perfect crisp picture. email me. Costs will be : $2 for the cost of the CDR(s) $2 for the burning $5 for the time i will have to spend to make the video -> MPEG transfer So thats a total of $9 per video, REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF CDR I END UP USING. So thats : $9 for the "This is what the KLF are about" $9 for the "The White Room Movie" P&P is $5 for Europe, $8 for rest of the world. Sorry, postage costs are real expensive in France. **************IMPORTANT*************** DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY NOW. SEND ME A MAIL WITH THE ORDER, I WILL CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE IN THE 20 FIRST ORDERS, OR NOT. I WILL THEN MAKE THE TRANSFER, AND ONCE ALL 20 COPIES HAVE BEEN MADE, I WILL LET EACH ONE OF YOU KNOW IT IS TIME TO MAKE THE DEAL. DO NOT ASK ME FOR ANYTHING IN THE MAIL. ITS NOT THAT I DONT WANT TO ANSWER, BUT I JUST CANT ANSWER 30 or MORE SEPERATE QUESTIONS....I HOPE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. If all goes to plan, and things go well, i might be able to offer this to a larger number of people afterwards. But i HAVE to limit this at present as to not disappoint anyone from the start. I am NOT a manufacturing plant, unfortunately :) Cheers Xav I will let the list know when im ready to make VHS copies...let me deal first with the MPEG :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) Nations Date: 20 Mar 2000 01:28:47 +0100 BTW, im from Paris, France... ..unfortunately. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 22:55:04 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 8:08 PM > > If anyone does have a 1987-bought copy of 1987 could they tell me what's > > scratched into the vinyl in the run-out groove? This says 'JAMSLP 1 A' > > and 'JAMSLP 1 B' in typed letters (as opposed to written by hand which > > some vinyl used to have) with the spacing as I have indicated. Exactly the same as the new release... Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 19 Mar 2000 19:17:09 -0000 I'd be keen on a VCD copy of "This is...", simply because I have easier access to a computer than a VCR. I'm a new list member, and come from Watford, England (not that far from Bill's home, Aylesbury, actually), but am living in Nottingham at Uni. Watford is of course home to such Pop heavy weights as Geri Spice, Elton John, Gene and Wham! In fact, I know Andrew Ridgley's dad. How cool is that? I've just ordered a copy of 1987 from Rough Trade, so fingers crossed. Is it worth getting Chill Out on vinyl? I have the American Import CD, but heard that that release has some bits missing from it that are on the original release. Derek Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 19 Mar 2000 21:45:52 -0000 I'd be keen on a VCD copy of "This is...", simply because I have easier access to a computer than a VCR. I'm a new list member, and come from Watford, England (not that far from Bill's home, Aylesbury, actually), but am living in Nottingham at Uni. Watford is of course home to such Pop heavy weights as Geri Spice, Elton John, Gene and Wham! In fact, I know Andrew Ridgley's dad. How cool is that? I've just ordered a copy of 1987 from Rough Trade, so fingers crossed. Is it worth getting Chill Out on vinyl? I have the American Import CD, but heard that that release has some bits missing from it that are on the original release. Derek Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 19 Mar 2000 23:05:39 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:23 AM > just got off the phone with Torsten Pattberg who=B4s in London ( I=B4ll= be there > in 5 hours too) and said that HMV had 50 lps of the new 1987 in stock..= . > At least thats what I think he said... Yes U said that :) Damn that we didn't manage to meet, David. Torsten www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 19 Mar 2000 21:43:09 PST > >It should be noted that while the vast majority of DVD players can play >Video >CDs, This is true. >not all can read recordable cds. This is also true. In fact very few can. They can not >take the intensity of the DVD laser. This is not true. In fact I'd wager to say that every player sold this year in the US so far can play CDRs. Attempting to do so may allow you to >view the cd once, but after that you have another coaster for your bar. Um, I'm not sure where you got this info from. Maybe you had a bad experiance, or maybe a friend did, but this just isn't the case most of the time. I have never ruined a CDR in my, or anybody elses DVD homeplayer, or DVDROM. If this was the case I don't think that Gateway and Dell would be selling computers with DVD, and CDR drives in them do you? You'd destroy every disk you made right after making it! The intensity of the DVD laser isn't the issue. The laser steps down (or up, I'm not sure) it's wavelenth to read CD, or CDR. If it didn't, it wouldn't even be able to read the CD at all. CDR media only exposes as a very specific wavelenth, that is how CDR drives work. It is a difference freq for CDR/W writing, reading, and for DVD. In fact, in China, HK, Singapore, and other asian bootleg capitals where VCD, DVD, and MP3 are taking of like a rocket many players are sold that read DVDs, VCDs, and CDRs with PC file MP3s on them. (Bootleg MP3 disks are quite common in China). One of these players has been selling at Best Buy here in the states for a tiny sum of $150. I forget the name but it's really genaric sounding. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:26:50 GMT >>My original 1987 have this: >>MPO JAMS LP 1 A1 >>MPO JAMS LP 1 B1 >> > >Mine too Well, mine too. But as the MPO one is the 'original' 1978 what's this 'JAMSLP 1 A/B' issue then? A bootleg copy? DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV again Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:29:38 GMT Drew wrote: >Crucially they don't have the crackles in the same places as the CD >bootlegs I have got/heard so they CANNOT have been mastered off a CD >someone had about and though they'd make a quick buck off. Why not? My 1987 bootleg-CD doesn't have any crackles at all I think... DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:53:58 -0000 > I've just ordered a copy of 1987 from Rough Trade, so fingers crossed. Is it > worth getting Chill Out on vinyl? I have the American Import CD, but heard > that that release has some bits missing from it that are on the original > release. Yes that is true, but my 2c worth is that given a choice between a CDR copy of the UK version or vinyl (especially if a bootleg) I'd go with the CDR. As someone else said, Chill Out is a real "listening" album, a tripping album if you will :), so why go with crackly old vinyl and have to turn the record over, when you can play a great quality CD with the lights dimmed and just, well, chill out! Personally I make do with a US Wax Trax import copy (bought c 1992, even back then there were no original Chill Out CDs in the shops I visited :(), although I may have the UK version on MP3 somewhere. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:06:05 +0000 (GMT) Stephen Kennedy wrote: > Personally I make do with a US Wax Trax import copy (bought > c 1992, even back then there were no original Chill Out CDs in the shops I > visited :(), although I may have the UK version on MP3 somewhere. Chill Out on CD is very common. They have it in almost every large UK CD shop you might want to go into on import. Failling that www.cdnow.com have it for $12.49 and also the White Room for $10.49; most other online places So no excuse for anyone not to have it! Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "BUG" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:16:03 MET > I've just ordered a copy of 1987 from Rough Trade, so fingers crossed. Is it > worth getting Chill Out on vinyl? I have the American Import CD, but heard Yes that is true, but my 2c worth is that given a choice between a CDR copy of the UK version or vinyl (especially if a bootleg) I'd go with the CDR. As someone else said, Chill Out is a real "listening" album, a tripping album if you will :), so why go with crackly old vinyl and have to turn the record over, when you can play a great quality CD with the lights dimmed and just, well, chill out! Personally I make do with a US Wax Trax import copy (bought c 1992, even back then there were no original Chill Out CDs in the shops I visited :(), although I may have the UK version on MP3 somewhere. Steve i agree about the bootleg part, but my Chill Out sounds muchos better on vinyl than on CD (equipment used : AH! Tjoeb tube-output CD-player for the CD, Micro-Seiki DD-33 turntable with Reson Reca MM cartridge for the LP) Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:19:28 +0000 (GMT) Lars Nellemann wrote: > > If anyone does have a 1987-bought copy of 1987 could they tell me what's > > scratched into the vinyl in the run-out groove? This says 'JAMSLP 1 A' > > and 'JAMSLP 1 B' in typed letters (as opposed to written by hand which > > some vinyl used to have) with the spacing as I have indicated. > > My original 1987 have this: > MPO JAMS LP 1 A1 > MPO JAMS LP 1 B1 > > So it seems that it's not the same batch! Ok so the mystery deepens. Seems these are a new or at least different pressing to the ones others have got. I suppose they could still be 1987 originals but pressed at a different time. Either way they still seem identical in appearance apart from the run out groove scratches. I can't see why anyone would go to the trouble of pressing a new bootleg on vinyl; or how they'd end up in one branch of HMV or indeed any branch of a major shop. I guess the Rough Trade people would know; if anyone was nearby they could pop in the shop and chat them up. Remember how they actually checked via Mute and Bill and Jimmy that WRTROM was legit or not? Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:33:58 +1100 Hi all, I've been picking up some odd remixes of various KLF tracks using Napster and other methods and I wonder if anybody knows their pedigree? Are they just being done by fans or are some of these on proper DJ compilation CDs out there? The files are: 7,433,930 KLF - 3am Eternal (Disc Drive Mix).mp3 11,020,288 KLF - dogg bite megamix.mp3 (The first column is the file size in bytes.) The Dogg Bite Megamix has 3am Eternal, What Time Is Love, Church of the KLF and Last train all mixed together. The 3am Eternal (Disc Drive Mix) repeats "It's time to chant" as a sample, and also "What time is it?". Any ideas? Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:39:32 +0100 Hi Michael, > I've been picking up some odd remixes of various KLF tracks using Napster > and other methods and I wonder if anybody knows their pedigree? Are they > just being done by fans or are some of these on proper DJ compilation CDs > out there? > > The files are: > > 7,433,930 KLF - 3am Eternal (Disc Drive Mix).mp3 > 11,020,288 KLF - dogg bite megamix.mp3 > > (The first column is the file size in bytes.) > Any ideas? Don't know about the second one, here's something about the first.. Various Disc Drive Producer's Choice: The Best Of Volume 3 Remix Service United States Disc Drive Records DDCD-01 7:18 HIPPY CHICK - Soho 6:00 STATE OF THE WORLD - Janet Jackson 6:08 GONNA MAKE YOU SWEAT - C&C Music Factory 6:13 3 A.M. ETERNAL - The KLF 6:45 TOUCH ME (All Night Long) - Cathy Dennis 6:45 TOGETHER FOREVER - Lisette Melindez 6:03 NOW THAT WE FOUND LOVE - Heavy D & The Boyz 7:42 EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY - Black Box 6:25 MOVE THIS - Technotronic 6:45 YOU THINK YOU KNOW HER - Cause & Effect 7:26 USE IT UP, WEAR IT OUT - Pat & Mick This song was featured on Blake's Synthpop Page (http://www.swcp.com/blakeh/synthpop.htm) some time ago. Excellent page, by the way - well worth a visit. That's also where the information is from. Disc Drive is one of the several professional remix services that remixes artists tracks for money, another example is Razormaid.. Hope this helps, Kjetil FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: RE: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:26:03 GMT > > The files are: > > > > 7,433,930 KLF - 3am Eternal (Disc Drive Mix).mp3 > > 11,020,288 KLF - dogg bite megamix.mp3 > Here's the info about the second one: The Dogg Bite Mix (12" 1991 US; Euro-Mixx KLF-26) one-sided DJ radio promo licensed by Euro-Mixx Records, Inc. Mixes the A side of the White Room album... DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 08:07:31 EST > Ok so the mystery deepens. Not really, at least to me. What we have so far: NEW: JAMSLP 1 A ORIGINAL: MPO JAMS LP 1 A1 RED BOOTLEG: 1LP A 1 (I assume it's JAMS1LP but the poster did not specfically mention JAMS) All three have different numbers so I'm not sure where the mystery lie. The new issue can't be original, and I certainly doubt so many would suddenly be found somewhere. With today's technology a decent quality original could easily be cleaned up audiowise and pressed to vinyl. How about actual sleeve markings? Does anyone have both an original and a new issue? > I can't see why anyone would go to the trouble of pressing a new bootleg on > vinyl; Because it's not technically a bootleg but a counterfeit. The new Space issue is also counterfeit. The point of counterfeits is to make you think you have an original, not to get the music out to the people like bootlegs. (see Introducing the Beatles, a notoriously couterfeited LP) > I guess the Rough Trade people would know; if anyone was nearby they > could pop in the shop and chat them up. Remember how they actually > checked via Mute and Bill and Jimmy that WRTROM was legit or not? If anyone decides to do this could they wait a week or two until my copy gets sent out? Don't want them to pull it if they find out the truth... -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:47:19 -0000 > 11,020,288 KLF - dogg bite megamix.mp3 AFAIK an officially licenced DJ megamix (like the old DMC and Music Factory volumes). I have an original vinyl of this, along with DMC volume 1 and a few others that I bought off a DJ years ago along with the rather more substantial matter of some decks, an amp, speakers, etc :) I believe both of the tracks you mention are listed in Lazio's essential disgraphy - http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Russian Chill Out Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:23:14 +0100 Anyone ever heared about this: The KLF: Chill Out Limited edition of 500 copies only. Label: ArsNova - AN2075. 14 tracks. -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:18:39 -0000 > > Ok so the mystery deepens. > > Not really, at least to me. I tend to agree with you in principle (i.e. I suspect it's not a rediscovered batch of originals, although it would be nice to think it is), but: > > I can't see why anyone would go to the trouble of pressing a new bootleg on > > vinyl; > > Because it's not technically a bootleg but a counterfeit. The new Space > issue is also counterfeit. The new Space has no mention of KLF Communications, from what I can deduce of the scans. Surely the original has a record label credit? Therefore if so, the new Space is either a bootleg or not the most successful attempt ever at counterfeiting. Mind you, a lot of counterfeits are identifiable in one way or another so I guess this discrepancy wouldn't disqualify it from being classified as such. > The point of counterfeits is to make you think you have an original, not to > get the music out to the people like bootlegs. (see Introducing the Beatles, > a notoriously couterfeited LP) What's that, the butcher cover? Meet The Beatles wasn't it? Not sure, as I'm English and the butcher cover was American (great sleeve BTW, admittedly in rather bad taste). If however 1987 is a counterfeit then why on earth is it being sold at Rough Trade (who Bill has had past involvement with, remember) for 10.99 and not through Record Collector ads at 50 quid a pop? Anyrode, I think I might just order one before they've all gone and/or been pulled... :) [Another possibility given the apparent quality of these pressings: Bill & Jimmy arranging a private pressing to earn a few quid??? Do they need the money??] Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:05:25 +0000 (GMT) I get what Paul was saying; it's either real or a counterfeit, not a bootleg. If we are picking hairs I think we could say the 'red' version was a bootleg as someone did stick some new tracks on it. Anyhow... as Stephen said: > If however 1987 is a counterfeit then why on earth is it being sold at Rough > Trade (who Bill has had past involvement with, remember) for 10.99 and not > through Record Collector ads at 50 quid a pop? ... that's what the mystery is!! I have looked very carefully and the new version has got excellent quality printing throughout (unlike the Space vinyl one I've got which looks a bit fuzzy). If you compare it to Shag Times (for instance) looks exactly the same quality. I'd suggest that the only way it was obviously different is the matrix number in the run-out groove. > [Another possibility given the apparent quality of these pressings: Bill & > Jimmy arranging a private pressing to earn a few quid??? Do they need the > money??] Well if that was the case they'd have it everywhere? There's been no odd take-over of Abba's publishers has there? I agree with Paul, asking might cause ructions, but then would be interesting to know. Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Zoo Uncaged (was Re: (klf) HMV) Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:43:30 +0000 (GMT) David Lindgren wrote: > But I can't find the Zoo uncaged cd compilation anywhere, damn. . . Just on the above I've never seen this CD anywhere in the UK although it must have been out at some point. I got my copy from www.cdnow.com; due to the odd way international CD licencing work it seems to be freely available in the US. Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:42:53 PST >From: "Xav Ehret" >BTW, im from Paris, France... > >..unfortunately. > >Cheers >Xav me too Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Bentley Rhythm Ace Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:53:16 +0100 Where's the link between Bentley Rhythm Ace and The KLF? Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) The Cartel Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:59:26 +0100 I try it again.. Someone knows what is the situation today with independent distributions in the UK. As far as I know The Cartel isn't alive anymore, is it? There were about three independent distributors around 1991 (Cartel/Pinnacle/Spartan); and today? cheers Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:10:05 GMT I'm from Lüdenscheid, Germany DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The KLF Videos - On-Line Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:33:48 +0100 (CET) Hi, at first, I've to send THANX to Marek Mierzejewski for sending me CDs with some KLF videos! And now... I put them on the net... Now is available to download: 43270556 The KLF - 3 A.M. Eternal (Embankment Version).mpeg 46806676 The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version).mpeg 68509196 The KLF - Rites Of Mu (MTV '92 Version).mpeg 315683530 The KLF - Stadium House (The Trilogy).mpeg 243932570 The KLF - This Is Not What The KLF Is About.mpeg 22482908 Timelords - Doctorin' The Tardis.mpeg 38703896 Timewhores - Doctorin The Sheriff.mpeg (good Tardis parody) 57690976 The KLF - WTIL (Power Edit).mpeg (fan clip) Please, don't submit this site to search engines and MP3 crawlers... host: io.pinknet.cz user: klf pass: KLFlifr (will be changed at intervals) Right time to download is european night, connections are limited to 10. (Maybe we can do there KLF archive - is anybody able to support this idea with UltraSCSI HDD?) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) The KLF Videos - On-Line Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:35:37 +0100 > Hi, > > at first, I've to send THANX to Marek Mierzejewski for > sending me CDs with some KLF videos! > > And now... I put them on the net... > > Now is available to download: > > 43270556 The KLF - 3 A.M. Eternal (Embankment Version).mpeg > 46806676 The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version).mpeg > 68509196 The KLF - Rites Of Mu (MTV '92 Version).mpeg > 315683530 The KLF - Stadium House (The Trilogy).mpeg > 243932570 The KLF - This Is Not What The KLF Is About.mpeg > 22482908 Timelords - Doctorin' The Tardis.mpeg > > 38703896 Timewhores - Doctorin The Sheriff.mpeg (good Tardis parody) > 57690976 The KLF - WTIL (Power Edit).mpeg (fan clip) > > Please, don't submit this site to search engines and MP3 crawlers... > > host: io.pinknet.cz > user: klf > pass: KLFlifr (will be changed at intervals) > > Right time to download is european night, connections are limited to 10. > Can anyone comment on these Videos ? Are they from Lars CDs ? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 20:22:49 +0000 Having just been in there to pick a copy up I can confirm that they've go= t about 30 copies left. =A310.99 per copy. Ta Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: RE: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 21 Mar 2000 08:14:26 +1100 > I believe both of the tracks you mention are listed in Lazio's essential > disgraphy - http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf Hmmm. I did search it first and couldn't find them. Ah, looking again, now there they are! For Dogg Bite I suspect I searched for "Dog" (with one 'g'), but the "Disc Drive Mix" it's just bad naming on the part of the MP3 ripper. (It's really called the "Pump The Jams Mix".) Gee, I don't know. If people are going to rip rare tracks and allow us all to copy them it'd be nice if they could get the names right! (Actually, worse than this is seeing how many people on Napster think that "Popcorn" was written by Jean Michel Jarre. Sacrilege!) Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: Zoo Uncaged (was Re: (klf) HMV) Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:31:43 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Drew Radtke [mailto:A.L.Radtke@Bradford.ac.uk] > > David Lindgren wrote: > > But I can't find the Zoo uncaged cd compilation anywhere, damn. . . > > Just on the above I've never seen this CD anywhere in the UK. Hmm, I've never seen it on CD at all. Mine is a vinyl boxed set containing the 'Zoo Uncaged' album, the Teardrop Explodes compilation 'Piano', a 12" of 'Pictures on My Wall' by Echo & The Bunnymen and a 12" by, I think, The Turquoise Swimming Pools. Best track on the whole damned thing is 'Revolutionary Spirit' by the Wild Swans. The reproduction quality on this material is pretty ropey - very obviously mastered from vinyl. -Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) Russian Chill Out Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:32:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- Torsten Pattberg > Subject: (klf) Russian Chill Out > Anyone ever heared about this: > > The KLF: Chill Out > Limited edition of 500 copies only. Label: ArsNova - AN2075. 14 tracks. Is it by any chance on Ebay? As some time back I bid on an Orbital album on Ebay. It was a limited russian edition. Shortly after having the high bid I was contacted by Ebay saying that the Auction was being widthdrwan by them as the seller was under investigation? Just wondered if it could be the same person up to something. Cheers, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: RE: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:32:05 +0000 At 08:14 21.3.2000 +1100, Michael Hurwood wrote: >(Actually, worse than this is seeing how many people on Napster think that >"Popcorn" was written by Jean Michel Jarre. Sacrilege!) well, Jarre actually DID make a cover of it :) pretty good too, poppier ;) http://www.popcornsong.com/ :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net w00p! :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:38:57 EST > http://www.popcornsong.com/ The world is truely a frightening place... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:54:04 -0500 Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson wrote: > At 08:14 21.3.2000 +1100, Michael Hurwood wrote: > >(Actually, worse than this is seeing how many people on Napster think that > >"Popcorn" was written by Jean Michel Jarre. Sacrilege!) > well, Jarre actually DID make a cover of it :) > pretty good too, poppier ;) Sacrilege indeed, JMJ could never write anything as fun and catchy as Popcorn. Life is a chain of unrequited need: men want women, women want children, children want hamsters. Alice Thomas Ellis ==================================================== Jerry Quartley.....................jrq@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: RE: (klf) MP3 Remixes found on 'net Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:01:30 +0100 (CET) On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Michael Hurwood wrote: > (Actually, worse than this is seeing how many people on Napster think that > "Popcorn" was written by Jean Michel Jarre. Sacrilege!) I got about 30 different versions of Popcorn and I think, that Jarre made remix... if not Jarre, who made 6.57 long version? Sometimes this mix is credited to U96, but nobody confirm it... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 21 Mar 2000 02:24:54 +0100 cologne/germany -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: Re: (klf) Bentley Rhythm Ace Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:01:29 +1100 vischer@access.ch wrote: > > Where's the link between Bentley Rhythm Ace and The KLF? It's on their first, self-titled album. Buried in the beginning of one of the early tracks is a voice saying "BRA... uh-huh uh-huh". That's the only connection I'm aware of, and since the band that BRA formed from the ashes of, Pop Will Eat Itself, is my favourite band of all time, I think that I'd be aware of any other. Why do you ask? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Video : whats going to happen... Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:47:31 -0000 Brilliant Xav, one thing though did you decide on straightforward CDROM or Video CD? If the former, is anyone else planning on conversion to VCD? Since this is digital all the way folks can obviously convert to their heart's content :) I hope that people who get the discs will then offer others in their region (or worldwide, if it suits them) copies in return for blanks and postage, a trade, or a nomimal fee. I have a good feeling about this - with Mark T and Simon Coward's offer of material for a tree in addition, and DJ Dominion's Stadium House transfer mentioned a long time ago, we could get some nice material flowing. I'm happy to throw in copies of any not-commercially-available KLF stuff (in line with B+J's wishes) that I have too. (Although this might be better waiting for a new and improved MP3 collection which hopefully one day we'll have). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Nations on the list + VCDs Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:14:44 -0000 > Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > Personally I make do with a US Wax Trax import copy (bought > > c 1992, even back then there were no original Chill Out CDs in the shops I > > visited :(), although I may have the UK version on MP3 somewhere. > > Chill Out on CD is very common. They have it in almost every large UK CD > shop you might want to go into on import. Failling that www.cdnow.com > have it for $12.49 and also the White Room for $10.49; most other online > places So no excuse for anyone not to have it! I have an original Chill Out CD, but an American one. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear :) I would snap up a KLF Comms Chill Out CD but am not sure I've ever even seen one. The point was whether a UK copy (boot?) is worth buying on vinyl, and personally I was saying - in musical terms - not especially. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: Re:(klf) religious ponderings... Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:56:50 +0100 I've stumbled on this by Neil >(jimmy's brother - or was it actually jimmy himself that built >the set for the stadium house vid) yeah, actually it was the whole Cauty clan. If you read the end credits on Stadium House there are Simon, Jimmy, Frank & Megan (parents?) and Bill Drummond himself. In fact I've got some pictures with B&J shown constructing the whole Land Of Mu on a huge working table (get them here: http://rezist.com/djd/land_of_mu1.jpg to 4 respectively), and in the article it was written to take place in the old and rusty house of Jimmy's brother somewhere in the London City (but could this be Trancentral?). Btw: has anybody been to the original location of Trancentral (or Benio)? Somebody posted it's address on the list at some point and I just wonder what ever happened to that house. djd ps: actually please download these pics from tommorow morning... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 06:32:34 -0000 What's the consensus from the folks in the know? Bootleg, or rediscovered box of originals? (a la the Grim Up North CD singles sat in Mr CD Berwick St a few years ago, wish I'd bought the lot now!) Rough Trade are very cryptic: "reissue? of the classic 1987 album" - 'reissue?' thanks for the help ;-) If it's a boot I'll pass as I don't play any vinyl, but I'd love an original '87. Someone please help me! :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 at HMV Date: 20 Mar 2000 11:17:47 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 11:05 PM > Yes U said that :) Damn that we didn't manage to meet, David. Er, I mean "I said that"... > Torsten > www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:38:54 -0000 > Attempting to do so may allow you to > >view the cd once, but after that you have another coaster for your bar. > > Um, I'm not sure where you got this info from. Maybe you had a bad > experiance, or maybe a friend did, but this just isn't the case most of the > time. I have never ruined a CDR in my, or anybody elses DVD homeplayer, or > DVDROM. > > If this was the case I don't think that Gateway and Dell would be selling > computers with DVD, and CDR drives in them do you? You'd destroy every disk > you made right after making it! Slightly different than the original point about standalone DVD players (my prediction that we'd all have them in a few years), but like many others I watch DVDs via my PC and confirm that my drive can read CDRs and CDRWs too. Out of interest I use a Matshita (Panasonic) 2x DVDROM and an ATI Rage Fury 32MB with TV out, and the results are fairly impressive. But I digress... > The intensity of the DVD laser isn't the issue. The laser steps down (or up, That's what I thought. Fried discs etc are the stuff of urban myth aren't they? Don't recall hearing concrete evidence about them in the DVD or CDR FAQs. > In fact, in China, HK, Singapore, and other asian bootleg capitals where > VCD, DVD, and MP3 are taking of like a rocket many players are sold that > read DVDs, VCDs, and CDRs with PC file MP3s on them. (Bootleg MP3 disks are > quite common in China). One of these players has been selling at Best Buy > here in the states for a tiny sum of $150. I forget the name but it's really > genaric sounding. One of those generic players got an 8/10 in a UK DVD hardware mag. I think it was around 300 pounds - over $450 - but not only would it play DVDs (region free), VCDs, and MP3 CDROMs, it also had DTS audio, quite a special feature at that price point. Hopefully devices like that will proliferate, it will soon become pointless buying a CD player in my opinion (apart from the real audiophile top of the range jobs, and even they may be made obsolete by audiophile DVD players). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) Top Of The Pops Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:55:16 +0100 hello there. Is there anyone on the list, who happens to have old Top Of The Pops clips from around '90-'92 on VHS tapes? I'm especially after such acts as Altern8 (I know they had a banner which read "Hardcore You Know The Score" ;), The Orb ("Blue Room" chess game), Blue Pearl, Nomad, Adamski, Guru Josh, The Shamen, FSOL or any other old skool outfits that appeared there. Now, I know that TOTP2 shows old clips, but I can only get it here on BBC Prime and it is scrambled :/ Can you help? djd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) Mr. Khiem Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:58:11 +0100 another bit I'd like to comment here: >> Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, >>does he have any stuff available elsewhere? Duy (or is it Zuy) Khiem >IIRC, he was a friend of Jimmy who did the clarinet playing on 1987, and >when he was at trancentral one day Bill heard him singing and asked him to >do a track on the album. I always thought The Jams recorded "1987" at The Village, since Nick Coller and Ian Richardson are credited as programmer and engineer respectively on the cover of "History Of The Jams". Also I remember Bill saying that before recording anything together, they first met at Jimmy's house and started working off some rough ideas on some cheap 400ukp sampler (hear Jimmy saying that in a SnubTV interview here: http://rezist.com/djd/snubtv.mp3 ). I believe, that at this point (Jan 87), Jimmy didn't have any studio at home and it was only after they made some money with "Doctorin The Tardis" he has set up Trancentral. Perhaps, if lurking somewhere in here, Jimmy himself would like to clarify that? ;) (yeah, I bet he will...) >But I doubt he has anything else available because he wasn't a professional >singer, and maybe not even a professional clarinet player.. Dunno... hmm, there's this sample on "Waiting" (it comes twice at around 19:15 and 33:45) where a fammiliar voice sings sth like "mountain, mountain...etc". It just sounds to me like Mr. Khiem. But perhaps it was taken from some asian record? and last thing to mention: does anybody have a scanned picture of Trancentral? I've got one with Jimmy & Bill standing/sitting in front of some equipment, but I'd like to confirm the location. here's mine: http://rezist.com/djd/trancentral.jpg djd ps: actually please download this mp3 from tommorow morning... it's bloody slow :/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) KLF Liberation Front Date: 20 Mar 2000 14:59:25 +0100 this is definitely the last thing I'll mention here today: "KLF Liberation Front" project, which is basicly about encoding *all* KLF videos/movies/totp clips & interviews into top quality mpeg-1 files (ready for up/downloading on the net, so that *everyone* has a chance to actually experience KLF visual art and related stuff) - is going ahead. So far, I have received numerous VHS material. The outcome mpegs should appear on a couple of servers soon, but if anybody would like to put them on their servers (and we are talking here something about 4GB amount of data), please contact me privately. If you are in a possesion of any rare/unseen KLF video material (no matter how short, it can even be Jimmy blinking ;), please let me know. Actually, I'm looking for a re-mastered copy of Mike Dutton's 4hr video (the one with an orange cover) for the sake of encoding a few KLF's top of the pops clips, which for some mysterious reason are missing from a copy I've been sent (Neil: you know what it's about here... :( Please, do not e-mail me asking for these mpegs. The url link will be posted here in a forthcoming future. And just to show-off the quality, check out a very short excerpt of "The White Room" film: http://rezist.com/djd/wrprew.mpg djd once again, mpeg available from tommorow................. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Rare Trax Question Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:31:51 -0500 (EST) Does anyone know if KLF- Rare Trax is on vinyl or just cd? Thanks Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) VideoCD vs VHS copies... Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:28:47 PST >>The intensity of the DVD laser isn't the issue. The laser >>steps down (or >>up, >That's what I thought. Fried discs etc are the stuff of urban >myth aren't >they? Don't recall hearing concrete evidence about them in the >DVD or CDR >FAQs. No. You *can* fry a CDR, or temporarily fry a CDRW. Two ways I can think of: 1) Have a really crappy drive/home unit. 2) Sunlight. CDRS are like the film in a camera. You expose wht you want, and how much you want by taking a picture (or writing to the CD once). Film exposes in normal light, but CDRs only "develop" at a very specific frequency of laser. Therefore if you had that certain frequency, or something intense, and broadband like sunlight, it would be like opening the back of a camera with the film unwound inside. So while it's extreamly unlikely, it could happen. CDRs are much more fragile than alluminum CDs for sure. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: (klf) Chill Out Vinyl Date: 21 Mar 2000 06:52:53 -0000 > I have an original Chill Out CD, but an American one. Perhaps I > didn't make > myself clear :) I would snap up a KLF Comms Chill Out CD but am not sure > I've ever even seen one. > The point was whether a UK copy (boot?) is worth buying on vinyl, and > personally I was saying - in musical terms - not especially. Oh right, ok. The American Chill Out I have is original, too. I have seen a couple of KLF comms Chill Out CDs floating about. I know for a fact that there's one in our Uni CD library, so i could always get a copy of that. I'm sure I saw what I thought was an original copy in a local second hand CD shop in my home town of Watford, so I'll check when I go home this weekend. I'll check what the vinyl copies of Chill Out in HMV are like if I can get into London at some point while I'm at home. Has anyone else got hold of one? Are they genuine? They're retailing at only 7UKP, which seems very cheap for either an import or an original KLF Comms copy. For only 7 quid, it's almost worth getting a copy for that old school vinyl feel! Derek Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) Nations on the list Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:44:29 +0100 Stockholm, Sweden here. David (Lindgren), do you also, like myself and Anders, hang around here in Stockholm when you're not burning a lot of =A3 in London? / Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Thomas Helvard Till: Klf (E-mail) Datum: den 16 mars 2000 12:56 =C4mne: (klf) Nations on the list > >As the discussion on the video vs. VCD goes on, a lot of people from = all >over the world are responding..I was wonderong, how many nations are >represented on the list?? (and how many members are there really?) > >I live in Denmark's capitol, Copenhagen, home of the Little Mermaid > >- Thomas > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) Nations Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:46:32 +0100 Why unfortunately? I've been there a couple of times and I must say I like Paris. But the music scene in France leaves ... erm ... something to be desired ... ;) / Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Xav Ehret Till: Klf Datum: den 20 mars 2000 01:30 =C4mne: (klf) Nations > >BTW, im from Paris, France... > >..unfortunately. > >Cheers >Xav > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET!! - Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:51:04 +0100 Put me up for the video too! / Robert -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: vischer@access.ch Till: klf@lists.xmission.com Datum: den 15 mars 2000 14:20 =C4mne: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > >I'd like to have it on video too! > >Simon > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Chill Out Vinyl Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:38:39 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Derek Knight > Sent: 21 March 2000 07:53 > To: KLF > Subject: (klf) Chill Out Vinyl > > > > > > I have an original Chill Out CD, but an American one. Perhaps I > > didn't make > > myself clear :) I would snap up a KLF Comms Chill Out CD but am not sure > > I've ever even seen one. > > > The point was whether a UK copy (boot?) is worth buying on vinyl, and > > personally I was saying - in musical terms - not especially. > > Oh right, ok. The American Chill Out I have is original, too. I > have seen a > couple of KLF comms Chill Out CDs floating about. I know for a fact that > there's one in our Uni CD library, so i could always get a copy > of that. I'm > sure I saw what I thought was an original copy in a local second hand CD > shop in my home town of Watford, so I'll check when I go home > this weekend. There seems to be TWO official UK pressing. One which is the JAMSCD5, and the other JAMSCD89005 which has a white border all around the CD. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Chill Out Vinyl Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:00:07 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Culf [mailto:culf@mcc.ac.uk] > Sent: 21 March 2000 14:01 > To: Xav Ehret > Subject: RE: (klf) Chill Out Vinyl > > > I've never heard of this KLFCD89005 one ... > > Culf. You can see scans of this CD @ : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/badwisdom/klf/ Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Ka Subject: Re: (klf) Nations Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:14:54 +0800 I'm from HongKong Any one using a Nokia phone come and look at my 8210 operater logo. interested pls email me Jerry ilove2mix@hknet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Justified" Subject: (klf) beat dis! Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:24:12 +0100 Hi Ever wondered WHO influenced the KLF 'n making house music? While Bill was influenced by the 60's sound and Jimmy loved the 70's metall bands....who 're their Rave Idols??? -Todd Terry..... its The Todd Terry Project that made Bill and Jimmy produce such fine Pure Trance music.... ... -They used the Todd Terry "Bang To The Batmobile" sample in Go To Sleep.... -"the Todd Terry project was the last thing that i heard, i searched for the answer there was not much to find and Kylie Said To Jason...." -Ever heard "Weekend" from Todd Terry? released same time as Burn The Beat...."What we gonna do here is go back....." -notice the BBC omnibus vid....they re in a record store... ' -Bill about house music.."Things like French Kiss and Todd Terry. Now Todd Terry had three or four classic singles in 1988, all independents." -and if u listen closely you 'll find some familiar instruments in KLF pure trance hits that Todd Terry uses... I collect house stuff...chicago house - detroit techno and lots a acid house singles / hip hop stuff of THAT time...1988-1990... for me...THE BEST TIME THERE WAS....AND THE KLF was the best Rave band out there.... .. second...Utah Saints...Bomb The Bass...and early Shamen stuff (entact-progen) When talked bout KLF people always mentioned Shamen as second.... also Nomad....but I think only coz of the track "devotion"...its sounded like part of the White Room...but rest...naa...I don t think 're was or will be a band like KLF... Greetings from the Netherlands Paco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) 1987/HMV Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:40:04 +0100 > Lars Nellemann wrote: > > My original 1987 have this: > > MPO JAMS LP 1 A1 > > MPO JAMS LP 1 B1 > > > > So it seems that it's not the same batch! Just to confirm that my original has exactly these markings. It also has a A5 advert for a 'Shag, Shag, Shag' t-shirt. Anybody else have this - didn't see it mentioned in the discog. -Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Records Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:15:57 CET Check this out... http://www.htfr.co.uk/cgi-bin/sear.pl?artist=klf&title=&label=&comments=&year=____&start=0&referer=casearch.htm&search.x=0&search.y=0 DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) beat dis! Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:19:22 +0000 (GMT) Nah, sorry, I don't buy this. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Justified wrote: > Ever wondered WHO influenced the KLF 'n making house music? While Bill was > influenced by the 60's sound and Jimmy loved the 70's metall bands....who > who're their Rave Idols??? > -Todd Terry..... its The Todd Terry Project that made Bill and Jimmy produce > such fine Pure Trance music.... > -They used the Todd Terry "Bang To The Batmobile" sample in Go To Sleep.... A common sample. > -"the Todd Terry project was the last thing that i heard, i searched for the > answer there was not much to find and Kylie Said To Jason...." Uh-huh, Todd Terry was popular in the UK clubs around 1988. > -Ever heard "Weekend" from Todd Terry? released same time as Burn The > Beat...."What we gonna do here is go back....." Another common sample. > -notice the BBC omnibus vid....they re in a record store... ' Can't recall. > -Bill about house music.."Things like French Kiss and Todd Terry. Now Todd > Terry had three or four classic singles in 1988, all independents." That's undeniably true. They also all sounded pretty much the same, the "Todd Terry" sound was well known. One was on Sleeping Bag, at least two of the others were on Champion (in the UK). > -and if u listen closely you 'll find some familiar instruments in KLF pure > trance hits that Todd Terry uses... Cheap-end instruments that many producers on a budget have used. Nothing surprising in that. It's fairly easy to derive these apparent "links" between The KLF and Todd Terry, but I don't buy that Bill or Jimmy thought of him as some sort of rave god to be emulated. Many of the links are probably co-incidental, or at least Bill just fancying nicking them. I don't read anything more into it that that. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark reed" Subject: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:02:05 GMT This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. At the end of every financial year every good company performs a stock check/audit at all its locations so it can file it’s accounts. This year, obviously, at one of HMV’s big warehouses, they found 80 copies of the JAMM’S “1987” vinyl album (cat JAMMSLP1) that have remained sealed since manufacture. When the order came to withdraw the record in 1987 the order included withdrawing copies from the shelves, but oddly, not leftover warehouse stock unless it could be found. Since, by law, it is illegal for them to raise prices to meet market demand and perform price fixing, HMV were forced to calculate the retail price (including inflation) based on the dealer price at the time. I.e. £4.34 x HMV’s margin (i.e. 30%) = £6.99 (ish). Then add inflation this brings the price to £10.99. If anyone wishes to order this title you need to ring 0870 5334578. It is a UK Freephone number but may not be accessible outside the UK. For the price of £10.99 + postage you can have this record delivered direct to your door. It may not be possible to do so outside the UK. As a precaution I have ordered several copies of the record, to either sell to record dealers or fellow fans. Failing that copies can be found in the main London branch of HMV at 150 Oxford Circus, where the mail order section is based. It was only be persuading a member of staff to physically go down and pick up copies from the shop floor that I was able to order these by phone. The number of Oxford Circus branch is 0171 631 3423. Alternatively, you can order them by asking a member of staff in your local HMV to transfer a copy to your local branch. This may take up to 5 working days to do. Several copies have already been sold by mail today, so it is wise to act quickly as these are probably the last unplayed copies in the world. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (klf) 1987 for non-europeans? Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:12:35 -0500 (EST) any ideas on how i can get me, a lowly american, one of these new ones? the hmv website (both .com and .co.uk) has none... * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# icq 5562209 you gotta be a spirit - you can't be no ghost # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:29:08 EST > This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. Still doubting it based on the matrix numbers but... How did Rough Trade get theirs then? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 00:18:10 +0000 (GMT) TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > > Mark Reed wrote: > > This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. > > Still doubting it based on the matrix numbers but... > > How did Rough Trade get theirs then? Good points Paul makes there; except I would imagine it POSSIBLE Rough Trade do share some warehousing with HMV. All I'm curious to ask Mark Reed is how did you find this HMV story out; and can indeed you explain the matrix number discrepency? Certainly good job with the explanation so far it's good to see someone who has got at least some facts. Might be interesting to speak to Rough Trade I feel. Cheers, Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 01:19:43 +0100 Then why didn't anyone find these records years earlier + why does Rough Trade have them in stock listed as a reissue or something? Simon mark reed schrieb: > This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 01:22:44 +0100 > Then why didn't anyone find these records years earlier + why does Rough Trade > have them in stock listed as a reissue or something? well.. actually someone has mentioned this before I just saw.. ;) Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:20:07 EST > Good points Paul makes there; except I would imagine it POSSIBLE Rough > Trade do share some warehousing with HMV. Possible, I know (at least in these parts) some major shops do the stock for other shops (ie: tower might supply best buy with their inventory). > All I'm curious to ask Mark Reed is how did you find this HMV story out; > and can indeed you explain the matrix number discrepency? Certainly good > job with the explanation so far it's good to see someone who has got at > least some facts. Just to make a comment that this scenario is entirely plausible. I occasionally find a copy of a rare, out of print cd on the shelves that clearly have been sitting in a box unopened for quite some time. But I think it's important to note that on the same DAY these surfaced (pretty much) the Space boots showed up. A little too coincidental methinks. Of course if Mark got this straight from someone at HMV it could be a cover story for them knowing they have boots in stock and maybe realizing it too late to turn down the shipment... > Might be interesting to speak to Rough Trade I feel. Agreed. But wait until I get confirmation that mine has been sent out. :) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Lund Thomsen Subject: (klf) Re: klf-digest V2 #307 Date: 21 Mar 2000 22:21:25 +0100 "Stephen Kennedy" : >Also within a few years we'll all have DVD players, and most of them (all?) >will play VCD. My only concern is quality? How does a quality VCD compare >with a VHS video? Not very well I guess? Basically it all comes down to mastering. While a few of the HK titles I own (Chinese Ghost Story, The Blade, Peking Opera Blues, etc.) are a bit grainy at places, the overall quality is still very good. Mind you, DVD-owning friends also into HK movies tell me that they would actually prefer a VCD version to some of the sloppily mastered DVD versions. However, more than often I have come across bootleg VCD transfers from DVD that rival any (legitimate) VHS release - if not blowing it clear out of the water. Crisp and clear sound as well. The hardware MPEG decoder in my JVC is far superiour to any decoding engine I have come across on the PC (but then again my 200MMX is hardly "current" technology.) ObKLF: I created a Video CD from the A:WTiL? mpeg and will stick it online as soon as I find someone willing to host the 60Mb discimage - or setup an ftp server myself (got a box with a 20 gig drive sitting on a 512Kb line just waiting for something to do =)) /Jan Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark C=64/PalmPilot/KLF/Oldschool Cartoons/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy. -------------------- Email: kwed@kwed.org ---- WWW: http://kwed.org ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 05:50:29 -0000 > Just to make a comment that this scenario is entirely plausible. I > occasionally find a copy of a rare, out of print cd on the shelves that > clearly have been sitting in a box unopened for quite some time Copies of Its Grim Up North turned up in Soho a couple of years ago. From my local Virgin megastore I or my brother have picked up copies of several deleted records at least 5 years old, and it's always in the Sales (when presumably the warehouse is given a good going over) - Carter USM's After The Watershed single, the KLF Stadium House video, the Happy Mondays CDs on Factory (years after Factory's demise but _before_ the reissues on London). It _does_ happen. I asked Rough Trade about this _before_ anyone said not to, and a very nice girl there said she no idea where they came from or what their status was. I don't think I caused any ruffles - I was tactful in my query, put it that way. By the way, she told me they have copies Kalavela left - worth buying, do people feel?? I agree though that the timing of this to coincide with the "Instore Sampler" and Space CD bootlegs suggests this is a bootleg too. I'd like to know who Mark Reed is and where he gets his info from - I mean, I hope he's right :) I also don't buy this thing about "price fixing". HMV can charge whatever they like as long as they're not acting with others as a cartel. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:58:52 +0000 > Still doubting it based on the matrix numbers but... > There is one thing that I'm still curious about, which someone who has a non-HMV copy of 1987 can clarify: how thick is the vinyl on the original copies compared to the recently discovered copies at HMV? When I got mine I was rather surprised at how thick it was - I've been buying vinyl for about 10-12 years and have noticed that it's gradually been getting thinner, and then, all of a sudden, these copies of rather thick vinyl turn up in HMV. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, would thicker vinyl suggest a lower technology pressing process, and hence, increase the possibilty of it being a boot? Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 05:32:48 EST > Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, would thicker vinyl suggest a > lower technology pressing process, and hence, increase the possibilty of it > being a boot? I usually associate thicker with better/thin with cheap. By example, Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs vinyl pressings are usually pretty thick. I would think thicker vinyl would assist in preventing warp-age, etc. I've gotten vinyl that was so thin it was nearly transparent. Now that's cheap! Boots come in all densities of vinyl. Some of my early Beatlegs are on pretty thick vinyl. -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space, Koyaanisqatsi - Phillip Glass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Hi, Something about this is fishy. I don't know where Mark Reed gets his information, but although this story sounds vaguely plausible, I'm really not convinced. The earlier KLF pressings were all done at MPO in France (as were most independent releases in mid to late 80s, 'cos they were cheap, good quality, and friendly for independents allowing limited runs for a good price), up to at least Downtown (I can't remember what "The Edits" is). The only way I could believe this story was if the album was re-pressed later on when they already had an arrangement with their next pressing plant (I'm not familiar with which they used later on, I think the one with the printed rather than written matrix number is probably indicative of EMI's plant though)... but I find it hard to believe this too. There was no retraction of the order from the MCPS to cease circulation of the album, and it seems unlikely they would bother to repress -- it's more in their interest to not touch it again, partly because it was so crude by the later standards, and partly because of the mystique its deletion created. Someone mentioned that they thought they had been asked to destroy the masters: they were asked to destroy (or deliver to the MCPS for destruction) the masters (stampers, mothers) that are used in the manufacturing process, but they didn't hae to destroy the master tapes for the record. This sounds to me more of an elaborate scam. Here are other questions to be asked of those with copies: is the actual label of the original album glossy ("All You Need Is Love", also an MPO pressing, is not glossy IIRC)? Is the label on the new one glossy? Labels are almost always glossy these days. Also, the inner sleeve -- is this a generic paper inner sleeve? If so, is there any date marking on it? "DRG" paper inners have a month/year date code printed on them (maybe manufacturing run or something). And finally, how do the main sleeves compare - what's the quality of the print like? Are there any printed defects? Can anyone in London get a certified "original" and one of these "new" copies side by side and compare them in close detail? Not convinced, Culf. On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > > This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. > > Still doubting it based on the matrix numbers but... > > How did Rough Trade get theirs then? > > -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 06:39:24 EST > The earlier KLF pressings were all done at MPO in France > [snip] up to at least Downtown (I can't remember what "The > Edits" is). MPO. I was just examining it last night, as a matter of fact. > There > was no retraction of the order from the MCPS to cease circulation of the > album, and it seems unlikely they would bother to repress -- it's more in > their interest to not touch it again, partly because it was so crude by > the later standards, and partly because of the mystique its deletion > created. Agreement there. But I would think the order was to prevent making the recordings available for profit, thus the copyright infringement. Or maybe I should say for distribution. I don't see how they could repress legally. > This sounds to me more of an elaborate scam. or counterfeiting... > Can anyone in London get a certified "original" and one of these > "new" copies side by side and compare them in close detail? Well, I'm currently waiting delivery of an orignal (and it damn well better get here soon) and I ordered a copy from Rough Trade which should take 8 to 16 days to get here. If no one has by then I'll note my comparisions. -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space, Koyaanisqatsi - Phillip Glass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Comparing old and new... Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:48:38 CET Culf wrote: >with the printed rather than written matrix number is probably indicative >of EMI's plant though)... but I find it hard to believe this too. All my JAMs/KLF vinyls have a handwritten matrix, even the late releases >Also, the inner sleeve -- is >this a generic paper inner sleeve? If so, is there any date marking on >it? "DRG" paper inners have a month/year date code printed on them (maybe >manufacturing run or something). My original 1987 doesn't have any dates or something on the inner paper sleeve. Furthermore, the vinyl is pretty thin and the colour of the labels is more dark grey than black. And on the backside of the sleeve the "KLF" logo in 'A KLF Communications Company' has almost completely disappeared. Any more info on the new 1987 concerning these points? DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Comparing old and new... Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:19:05 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Kuta > Sent: 22 March 2000 13:49 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) Comparing old and new... > > > > Culf wrote: > > >with the printed rather than written matrix number is probably indicative > >of EMI's plant though)... but I find it hard to believe this too. > > All my JAMs/KLF vinyls have a handwritten matrix, even the late releases > > >Also, the inner sleeve -- is > >this a generic paper inner sleeve? If so, is there any date marking on > >it? "DRG" paper inners have a month/year date code printed on > them (maybe > >manufacturing run or something). > > My original 1987 doesn't have any dates or something on the inner paper > sleeve. Furthermore, the vinyl is pretty thin and the colour of > the labels > is more dark grey than black. And on the backside of the sleeve the "KLF" > logo in 'A KLF Communications Company' has almost completely disappeared. > Well, i have two original 1987, and both present the same aspects as described above. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Comparing old and new... Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:48:37 +0000 (GMT) > >with the printed rather than written matrix number is probably indicative > >of EMI's plant though)... but I find it hard to believe this too. > > All my JAMs/KLF vinyls have a handwritten matrix, even the late releases Aye, the later ones aren't MPO pressings though. I think KLF 002 and maybe JAMS 27T were not hand-written. JAMSLP2 definitely was not hand-written. But that's all from memory. After that I think they go back to being (differently) hand-written matrixes. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heather " Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 08:41:47 -0000 > Just to make a comment that this scenario is entirely plausible. I > occasionally find a copy of a rare, out of print cd on the shelves that > clearly have been sitting in a box unopened for quite some time. > Of course if Mark got this straight from someone at HMV it could be a cover > story for them knowing they have boots in stock and maybe realizing it too > late to turn down the shipment Tuesday night I spoke at length to a VERY nice man at HMV who told me they were the originals and dug up in ...well he didn't say a warehouse... but a garage! He told me that nearly every member of staff got one too when they realised what they were. So I clutched mine to my heaving bosom and made off into the night with a copy Heather # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) KLF Liberation Front update Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:14:57 +0100 >Please, do not e-mail me asking for these mpegs. ok, what I meant to say was that I wouldn't like to get houndreds of requests for making a copy of these mpegs. However, if you're like in Australia, USA, China or even Zair and you have a *working* cdburner and would be willing to make copies for other people in your area then sure - get in touch with me. I want these mpegs spread all over the globe so that Sasha in Novosybirsk or Umbeke in Congo will have a chance to experience KLF videos. E-Nuff said. Dj Dominion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Comparing old and new... Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:56:54 +0100 JAMS 28T (the grey 12") I can confirm is handwritten. Where would you get a machine-stamp for a backwards J ;-) -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... -----Original Message----- I think KLF 002 and maybe JAMS 27T were not hand-written. JAMSLP2 definitely was not hand-written. But that's all from memory. After that I think they go back to being (differently) hand- written matrixes. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:39:11 -0000 I think this story is very plausible. There is a company that has various stores in the north of the U.K. and Scotland called FOPP. This is where the Doctorin The Tardis CD Video that surfaced a couple of years ago came from. I have also purchased an original U.K. CD of Chill Out and a sealed copy of the double U.F. Orb LP from them. When I bought these they had loads of others. I asked how they turned up so long after being deleted and was told a story similar to Marks. The story being that unsold copies of various CD's and Vinyl are sent back to warehouses where they sit until someone decides what to do with them, companies like Fopp, purchase these old stocks and sell them on. I visited HMV today to pick up a couple of copies and found that when going through them to Guarantee good condition, (the first 8 or 9 copies were scratched, so that's a few more less) that some had very old looking inner sleeves (almost transparent) and some had new ones (pure White). It's as if they went through them and changed the bad ones, I don't know why they wouldn't have picked up on the scratches though. To me they look exceedingly genuine, however, I don't posses an original so have nothing to compare against. Phil. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of mark reed > Sent: 21 March 2000 23:02 > To: klf@xmission.com > Subject: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? > > > > This is the story of how 1987 came to be in HMV. > > At the end of every financial year every good company performs a stock > check/audit at all its locations so it can file its accounts. This year, > obviously, at one of HMVs big warehouses, they found 80 copies of the > JAMMS 1987 vinyl album (cat JAMMSLP1) that have remained sealed since > manufacture. When the order came to withdraw the record in 1987 the order > included withdrawing copies from the shelves, but oddly, not leftover > warehouse stock unless it could be found. > > Since, by law, it is illegal for them to raise prices to meet > market demand > and perform price fixing, HMV were forced to calculate the retail price > (including inflation) based on the dealer price at the time. I.e. 4.34 x > HMVs margin (i.e. 30%) = 6.99 (ish). Then add inflation this brings the > price to 10.99. > > If anyone wishes to order this title you need to ring 0870 > 5334578. It is a > UK Freephone number but may not be accessible outside the UK. For > the price > of 10.99 + postage you can have this record delivered direct to > your door. > It may not be possible to do so outside the UK. As a precaution I have > ordered several copies of the record, to either sell to record dealers or > fellow fans. > > Failing that copies can be found in the main London branch of HMV at 150 > Oxford Circus, where the mail order section is based. It was only be > persuading a member of staff to physically go down and pick up > copies from > the shop floor that I was able to order these by phone. The > number of Oxford > Circus branch is 0171 631 3423. > > Alternatively, you can order them by asking a member of staff in > your local > HMV to transfer a copy to your local branch. This may take up to > 5 working > days to do. Several copies have already been sold by mail today, so it is > wise to act quickly as these are probably the last unplayed copies in the > world. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:34:13 +0000 In message Culf writes >Something about this is fishy. I`ve had a few friends contact them and each has been told different things, such as they are currently awaiting more copies from the record company... Hmm! :-O # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:30:17 -0000 Well, I decided to go out and buy them both (as Oxford Circus is on the way home)... I decided to scan the labels and put them up on a web page for all to view - check out at http://homepages.force9.net/king1/JAMS/Jamms.htm On further investigation, '1987' has a spelling mistake on the label: 'ALL SOUNDS O9N THIS RECORDING HAVE BEEN CAPTURED...' Did the original misspell 'ON' as 'O9N'??? This is on both sides of the label... Also, on Chill Out, the label misspells two track titles: 'SIX HORS TO LOUISIANA, BLACK COFFEE GOING COLD' ('HOURS' misspelled as 'HORS') and 'JUSTIFIED ANS ANCIENT SEEMS A LONG TIME AGO' ('AND' misspelled as 'ANS') Unsure of whether the original 'JAMSLP5' had these spelling mistakes....??? Anyway, I know the web page is sad, but it is temporary and didn't take me that long to produce (honest!). Hope this helps, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Vinyl thickness (was Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on?) Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:13:36 +0000 (GMT) Slightly off-topic post... On Wed 22 Mar, Craig Earnshaw wrote: > Also, would thicker vinyl suggest a lower technology pressing process, > and hence, increase the possibilty of it being a boot? Thicker vinyl is sturdier, thinner vinyl is easier to produce but not as nice. If you find any old 78 records (at car boot sales etc.) you'll notice how thick they are. This was partly to do with the technology, but nowadays when a 12" or an LP is pressed on thicker vinyl, many DJs are actually happy with it. The whole argument about bass sounding better on vinyl than it does on CD is paralleled by the argument I've heard that the sound on thick vinyl is better than the sound on thin vinyl. The fact these 1987 copies (one of which I'd LOVE to have... ANYONE HELP!) are on thick vinyl could therefore be used to prove both sides of the argument... late 1980s LPs were still pressed on thick vinyl so that would suggest authenticity, but arguably it demonstrates a lo-tech bootleg instead. But I'd opt for the former- I imagine it's cheaper to press bootlegs on paper-thin vinyl nowadays, at least the boot 12"s I've seen have all been pretty flimsy. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Snarfy Subject: (klf) 1987..Original?? Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:37:53 -0500 (EST) ok..so the copy I own that was purchased in 1987 before they were pulled.... a) does not misspell the word on on the label.. b) has JAMS LP 1A hand drawn into the run in on side A c) has JAMS LP 1 B hadnd drawn in on the run in of side B d) has MPO (whatever the hell that is) hand drawn on the run in of side A and B Does this end any debates?? Please?? I will even zoom in and take picrtures of the damn things if it will end this thread.. there are some pretty smart people on this list..why are we arguing about whether it is original or not?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:56:15 CET >On further investigation, '1987' has a spelling mistake on the label: > >'ALL SOUNDS O9N THIS RECORDING HAVE BEEN CAPTURED...' > >Did the original misspell 'ON' as 'O9N'??? This is on both sides of the >label... NO, it definately didn't! Furthermore there are a bunch of mistakes on the HMV one (in comparison to the original): - "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu" & the track titles are in the wrong font! - The Pyramid Blaster is a newer design. There are no buttons on the original... - The "33 1/3" differs - The outer written circle doesn't fit the label size properly (not at all, the "sic" of "music" is missing!) The same goes for the HMV Chill Out: - "The KLF" and the "KLF Comms" logo missing - again wrong font... - no spelling mistakes on the original - on the b-side there's a "+" used but it should be a small crucifix So I think this topic is done now, isn't it?!? ;) DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 23 Mar 2000 01:06:22 +0100 > Well, I decided to go out and buy them both (as Oxford Circus is > on the way > home)... > > I decided to scan the labels and put them up on a web page for > all to view - > check out at http://homepages.force9.net/king1/JAMS/Jamms.htm > > On further investigation, '1987' has a spelling mistake on the label: > > 'ALL SOUNDS O9N THIS RECORDING HAVE BEEN CAPTURED...' > > Did the original misspell 'ON' as 'O9N'??? This is on both sides of the > label... > > Also, on Chill Out, the label misspells two track titles: > > 'SIX HORS TO LOUISIANA, BLACK COFFEE GOING COLD' > > ('HOURS' misspelled as 'HORS') > > and > > 'JUSTIFIED ANS ANCIENT SEEMS A LONG TIME AGO' > > ('AND' misspelled as 'ANS') > > Unsure of whether the original 'JAMSLP5' had these spelling > mistakes....??? > > > Anyway, I know the web page is sad, but it is temporary and didn't take me > that long to produce (honest!). > > > Hope this helps, Ive just checked both my origianl 1987 LPs, and my Chill Out UK pressing. None of these errors appear on either of them.... So, i guess that resolves the question. These recent ones are definitely NOT originals. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: Vinyl thickness (was Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on?) Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:50:46 PST >but nowadays when a 12" or an LP is pressed on thicker vinyl, many DJs >are actually happy with it. I am....well not completly. Thicker stuff usualy means that the whole project of making the record in general was undertaked with greater care. As someone mentioned, the now defunct (sniff sniff) MoFi put everything on 180 gm vinyl, as did JVC, and other audiophile groups. At this point in history, if something is 150-180gm vinyl, it usualy means one of two things. a) It's an audiophile pressing of a classic such as The Wall, or it's a USA pressing of a dance, or rap record that had to be pressed and the only factory available was set up for the thick stuff. I don't think there are many budget vinyl plants left in the states. I bought the JBO USA version of Underworld's King of Snake/Jumbo two pack, and it was 180 gm. Only $9 too, not bad for two 180 gm disks. The problem with the thick stuff is that it weighs more, and therefore has a completely different dynamic when actually playing on a TT. The record doesn't spin up as fast on the slipmat when stopped, dragged, scratched ect. Small quip I guess, but a real one. > >The fact these 1987 copies (one of which I'd LOVE to have... ANYONE >HELP!) Me too, I'm an American with no credit card, and no one wants to ship me one. This sucks. are on thick vinyl could therefore be used to prove both sides of >the argument... late 1980s LPs were still pressed on thick vinyl so that >would suggest authenticity, I don't agree. Between the late 60s, and the early 90s I never saw "thick" type 180 gm records with the exception of MoFi type stuff. The stuff made in the 80s, 90s, and even late 70s really sucked, and was thin as paper sometimes. I swear my US J&A 7" could cut bread. The records of this period broke, and warped very easy, sometimes in the store. A record made in 1987 could have been any thickness, but probably was not very thick. Of course this is how I see it as an American, and natuarly most of the records I bought in my youth were American in origin. UK stuff might be different, but not from what I see from my older UK import records Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: RE: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:54:12 PST > >These recent ones are definitely NOT originals. Good! Now I can get one for cheap! I always wanted a 1987 LP, and could never find/afford a real one. Now I can afford one! Well, a counterfeit anyway. Maybe one will even show up in the states for less than $25.... Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Lundberg Subject: RE: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:59:42 +0000 HMV are also selling allegedly original chill out albums on vinyl... Later, John -- john lundberg: circlemakers: mailto:john@circlemakers.org http://www.circlemakers.org [ there is no art without risk ::: jean cocteau ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:54:43 +0200 > > > Just to make a comment that this scenario is entirely plausible. I > > occasionally find a copy of a rare, out of print cd on the shelves that > > clearly have been sitting in a box unopened for quite some time. > > Of course if Mark got this straight from someone at HMV it could be a > cover > story for them knowing they have boots in stock and maybe realizing > it too > > late to turn down the shipment > > Tuesday night I spoke at length to a VERY nice man at HMV who told me they > were the originals and dug up in ...well he didn't say a warehouse... but a > garage! He told me that nearly every member of staff got one too when they > realised what they were. So I clutched mine to my heaving bosom and made off > into the night with a copy Sorry but I dont understand, how can they be the originals if the matrix is different?! Maybe I've missed something in all this e-mails... Btw: There's a game called "E-Swat", if you wanna cheat you type "Justified Ancients of Mu Mu" and you get 99 credits, nice eh? :) Regards, David A. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:11:54 -0000 > Tuesday night I spoke at length to a VERY nice man at HMV who told me they > were the originals and dug up in ...well he didn't say a warehouse... but a > garage! He told me that nearly every member of staff got one too when they > realised what they were. So I clutched mine to my heaving bosom and made off > into the night with a copy What a beautiful description! :) I'm wondering now whether I should have ordered 2 copies as this is sounding more and more promising! Steve [now all I need is a record player! ;-)] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:10:32 +0100 (CET) Hi, could somebody explain me this expression (and background if exist) used in J&A? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:21:18 +0100 Adam Hauner: > could somebody explain me this expression (and background if exist) used >in J&A? A "99" is a cone with soft ice cream with a special kind of chokolate flake pressed into the ice cream. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 04:26:09 EST > could somebody explain me this expression (and background if exist) used > in J&A? I'm sure someone could explain this better but it's essentially an ice cream cone (vanilla) with a chocolate flake stuck in it. The chocolate is what makes it a 99. "I'll have an ice cream please." "Me too, and make mine a 99." listening to J&A in the car the other day my wife (british) got a good laugh at that line... I asked her why it was called a 99. She didn't know. -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space, Koyaanisqatsi - Phillip Glass, FatBoy Slim / Normal Cook Collection # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Ives Subject: Re: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:02:13 +0800 Adam Hauner wrote: > Hi, > > could somebody explain me this expression (and background if exist) used > in J&A? > -- > oh the memories of those van bells - when it pulls around the corner - and you hand over your coins and get that white whirl with two chocolate flakes .... - ahh memories (they go on and on and on and on and on and on and on....) - OK starter for 10 (and a ice-cream) - name that tune !! stephen http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:30:01 +0100 > From: Anders Hultman [mailto:anders@algonet.se] > Adam Hauner: > > could somebody explain me this expression (and background > if exist) used > >in J&A? > > A "99" is a cone with soft ice cream with a special kind of > chokolate flake > pressed into the ice cream. Indeed. It is usually either a third or a half of a Cadbury's Flake. Gotta be Cadbury's, as in these lines from 'Dickie Davies Eyes' by Half Man, Half Biscuit..... 'Oh God, I could murder a Cadbury's Flake, But then I guess you wouldn't let me into heaven. Or maybe you would, 'cos their adverts promote oral sex. A romany bint in a field with her paints, suggesting we faint at her beauty. But she's got Dickie Davies eyes.' Guess you gotta be British to spot all the references in there and maybe 30-something too. I don't suppose they still have the same TV adverts as 15-20 years ago. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:41:44 +0100 > "I'll have an ice cream please." > "Me too, and make mine a 99." I actually remember seeing a father ordering 99's for his kids in a Hellblazer comic a year or so back.. Can't remember which issue it was, but I had a nice smile at the reference at least :) Peace, K. FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:53:01 -0000 > > On further investigation, '1987' has a spelling mistake on the label: > > > > 'ALL SOUNDS O9N THIS RECORDING HAVE BEEN CAPTURED...' Bloody hell! Why didn't anyone spot this before? :-( Also I can never understand why people would go to the cost of pressing a counterfeit or bootleg and then make such sloppy errors. Idiots! Steve (soon to be "proud" owner of a fake 1987 :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: Vinyl thickness (was Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on?) Date: 23 Mar 2000 10:29:12 +0000 (GMT) > Thicker vinyl is sturdier, thinner vinyl is easier to produce but not as > nice. If you find any old 78 records (at car boot sales etc.) you'll > notice how thick they are. This was partly to do with the technology, > but nowadays when a 12" or an LP is pressed on thicker vinyl, many DJs > are actually happy with it. Most 78 records were made of shellac, that's why they are so much thicker and sturdier. It was only near the end of the life of the 78 was it made from vinylite, which was much lighter, cheaper, and flexible. (http://www.maddocks.net/about.htm, section "Record Condition Grading", paragraph 4) Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Positive Void Subject: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:28:39 -0500 eeeee - do you remember : ) + ( . warm summer daze in the green room love peace and happiness r u spinnin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gustavo.zapico@ogilvyinteractive.es (Gustavo Zapico) Subject: (klf) First attemp and maybe live gig Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:40:05 +0100 Hi, this is my first post to this list.... and i have heard that maybe KLF (or one of their incarnations) will play a live set in Spain this spring/summer.. Place: BCN It's not usre but maybe........ Kopyrite Liberation Front [KLF] "ABANDON ALL ART NOW" Await further announcements / Major rethink in progress --- Gustavo Zapico Fernández Tel / Fax: 93.773.83.33 / 93.773.83.34 Movil: 646.27.16.36 gus@espacio3.com www.espacio3.com gzapico@accio.com ICQ: #65422381 gustavo.zapico@ogilvyinteractive.es Acció Global Software Tecnològic, S.L. Estació 1. 08630 Abrera - BCN Acció e-World http://www.accio.com http://www.teletrabajo.es http://www.ipbusiness # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Hopkins Subject: (klf) Rites of Mu Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:47:19 +0000 Hey can anyone point me to good quality scans of Waiting/Rites of Mu inserts? TIA Richard This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Gschwend" Subject: Re: (klf) Comparing old and new... Date: 23 Mar 2000 19:17:54 +0100 (CET) On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:48:38 CET, Dan Kuta wrote: >My original 1987 doesn't have any dates or something on the inner paper >sleeve. Furthermore, the vinyl is pretty thin and the colour of the labels >is more dark grey than black. And on the backside of the sleeve the "KLF" >logo in 'A KLF Communications Company' has almost completely disappeared. >Any more info on the new 1987 concerning these points? ok, my english regarding vinyl is not that good, so I'm not yet sure what you mean with sleeve and so on. But anyway, I just got my 1987 copy from Roughtrade today (I ordered it sunday evening, I live in Switzerland). My copy is about 1.5-2mm thick, definitely thicker than the SHAG TIMES LP I have from 1988. The colour of the print is in my opinion a real black, not dark grey. On the vinyl itself there is in general something written, but I never saw a machine written text until now. On the vinyl they wrote JAMSLP 1 (A or B) in a font similar to Courier. Until now I just saw this written by hand, never with a machine. What about this on the original vinyl? Every KLF-Logo I see is very well printed, but as I said I don't know what you mean with sleeve. BTW: The most interesting think on the disk is the "copyright". I never saw something like this before but it really rocks IMHO: "in the name of Mu we hereby liberate these sounds from all copyright restrictions, without prejudice". Very cool :) that's is so far, if you want to know more about the new (?) release let me know. cu Adrian --- Adrian Gschwend @ OS/2 Netlabs ICQ: 22419590 ktk@netlabs.org ------- The OS/2 OpenSource Project: http://www.netlabs.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:54:29 EST > > > 'ALL SOUNDS O9N THIS RECORDING HAVE BEEN CAPTURED...' > > Bloody hell! Why didn't anyone spot this before? :-( > > Also I can never understand why people would go to the cost of pressing a > counterfeit or bootleg and then make such sloppy errors. Idiots! Boots almost always have some typo or misinformation on them. Sometimes I wonder if it's to give the people who know better a clue as to authenticity. I did find, however, that my late brother's "original" copies of both Abbey Road and Let It Be are counterfeits... If I hadn't been studying them for cataloging purposes I never would have known. They are almost perfect copies. -paul Currently in rotation: Welcome to the Pleasuredome (custom) - FGTH, Space, Koyaanisqatsi - Phillip Glass, FatBoy Slim / Normal Cook Collection # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) 1987 credits Date: 23 Mar 2000 19:20:47 EST While we're on the subject and everyone has pulled their original 1987s out... I finally got my copy of 1987 on cassette today... Two things I noticed that I don't recall seeing mentioned anywhere else: - each track has bpms: Monkees - 100bpm Five - 89bpm Rockman Rock - 105bpm Me Ru Con - 0bpm (i vaguely recall this one, tho) Queen - 99bpm Love - 106bpm Next - 100 bpm - more interesting, I think, are producing/writing credits to R.M. Rock and K.B. Hard... K.B. Hard? Glad Drummond rethunk that one... :) Incidentally, I'm about 3/4 the way through 45 and I'm really enjoying it. Call me shallow, but I enjoy the KLF/industry related stuff more than some of his other stories. Being in the US where no one has ever heard of the KLF, their exploits almost seem like fantasy to me; like a fairy tale. You never hear about them in the news, read about them in the paper or magazines so it doesn't seem real. I was chuckling out loud while reading this at work(1) and a coworker asked what I was reading. I told him, and of course he had no idea who KLF were. I told him about the million quid, the 1987 thing, the multiple name changes, K Cera Cera, the Brits, Illuminatus and numerology... all very outlandish and I don't think he really believed me. Reading Bill's story telling of some of these makes it all more concrete. I doubt he ever will but I hope someday he decides to sit down and write out his first person perspective on all things K. The meanings and origins behind White Room, Pyramid Blaster, speaker stack, etc... It'd make fascinating reading, methinks. -paul (1) specifcally where he sees his idol Peter Green on a flight and winds up embarrassed and dejected. when i first started this story the first thing i thought of was the list member who attended a BW reading, asked bill to sign his copy of 1987 and bill said something like: "by asking me to do this you not only embarrassed me, but you embarrassed yourself." i thought that was really harsh, but i can see where he's coming from. i was amused when he became that fan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:52:08 +0800 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > Bloody hell! Why didn't anyone spot this before? :-( > > Also I can never understand why people would go to the cost of pressing a > counterfeit or bootleg and then make such sloppy errors. Idiots! > well - living a part of the world famous for it's bootleg operations - there is every possibility that english was not the first language (or possibly even known) by the makers... - I have many chinese produced boots - that are excellent in quality - (including sleeves) - but god - on this pink-floyd/orb remix thing - they can't even spell "pink" correctly!!.. stephen http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:28:22 +0100 (CET) On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, stephen ives wrote: > excellent in quality - (including sleeves) - but god - on this pink-floyd/orb > remix thing - they can't even spell "pink" correctly!!.. I would like to see you spell chinese chars correctly =)) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:37:30 +0800 Adam Hauner wrote: > > excellent in quality - (including sleeves) - but god - on this pink-floyd/orb > > remix thing - they can't even spell "pink" correctly!!.. > > I would like to see you spell chinese chars correctly =)) > think you missed the point of the post - it is not a dig at hopeless english (the levels of english here in hong kong are perhaps at times better than home actually!!) - just a comment to state that quality control will not be the best when it is a second language... with regard your request adam... I can you let you have it in either traditional or simplified characters - failing that pinyin translation is also possible... - if you have a translation request - please let me know - it is one of the things we do over here... stephen http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:44:38 PST >well - living a part of the world famous for it's bootleg operations but god - on this pink-floyd/orb >remix thing - they can't even spell "pink" correctly!!.. > >stephen >http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge Yeah I find Chinese bootlegs to be a great sorce of amusement for me. It can be very funny sometimes. The people selling them can be almost as funny. I prefer to buy the real thing, but I have lowered myself to buying a few things from HK, Taiwan, Singapore, Philipenes, Korea ect such as VCDs of stuff that isn't on Laserdisc. Sometimes I see something that is so horibly hilarious that I just have to buy it for the $1 or whatever it costs. Usualy it's related to some sort of asian trash culture that I just love like anime or video games. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for Date: 24 Mar 2000 00:32:22 EST > with regard your request adam... I can you let you have it in either > traditional or > simplified characters - failing that pinyin translation is also possible... - if > you have a translation request - please let me know - it is one of the things we do > over here... You wouldn't want to translate the text of the MU cd, would you? :) -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 credits Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:35:21 -0000 > - more interesting, I think, are producing/writing credits to R.M. Rock and > K.B. Hard... > > K.B. Hard? it's on the sleeve of "All You Need Is Love" too # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Jimmy's Looking Glass contributions Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:48:53 CET Hi all! Can anyone tell me where to find pictures/scans/etc. of Jimmy's work for the Looking Glass experiment? Thanks a lot! DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspotters only! ;-) Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:56:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- Of Xav Ehret > Subject: RE: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for > trainspotters only! ;-) > Ive just checked both my origianl 1987 LPs, and my Chill Out UK pressing. > None of these errors appear on either of them.... > So, i guess that resolves the question. > These recent ones are definitely NOT originals. Now this seems to be well and truly cleared up. I wish I hadn't been so easily taken in by them, however, waking into HMV 13 years after the records deletion and seeing stacks of them on a shelf does blinker your vision somewhat! I never thought to check for spelling mistakes! This makes me wonder what the future will be for these bootlegs in terms of value. Have any copies of the red bootleg have changed hands recently and if so for how much? I've no idea how many of these are about. I bought mine from Mike Dutton for £15 when they first appeared. Until now this was all I had, I've never had an original, what's the current rate for these? If there were only 80 or so of these new boots they may be worth something in the future but who knows? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Crapola Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:59:34 GMT Did anyone get any further info on the forthcoming Crapola releases recently? I was just wandering because they told me news would be displayed in april... Cheers, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Atkinson Subject: (klf) It's Grim Up North Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:14:49 +0000 (GMT) Hi. I was wondering - does anyone have the lyrics to the JAMs single It's Grim Up North? I've looked around the web but can't find them anywhere. Thankyou, Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Smits" Subject: (klf) Chill out "reissue?" Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:17:14 PST I've seen the chill out "reissue" for sale in Amsterdam some months ago in shop called Boudisque near the central station. It's also available in my town Groningen at the Hemmes record store. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Chill out "reissue?" Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:22:51 +0100 Vincent, > I've seen the chill out "reissue" for sale in Amsterdam some > months ago in > shop called Boudisque near the central station. It's also available in my > town Groningen at the Hemmes record store. Last time I was at Boudisque they did indeed have a Chill out CD, but that was the US import from Wax Trax.. Are you sure this isn't what you saw? Peace, K. FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vincent Smits" Subject: RE: (klf) Chill out "reissue?" Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:30:52 PST No it was the record, not the cd, including the spelling errors. And it was also not from waxtrax. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspottersonly! ;-) Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:36:02 PST >You wouldn't want to translate the text of the MU cd, would you? :) > > > >-paul The Mu CD is Japanese, not Chinese. However many people who have Chinese down well also do some (if not a lot) of Japanese. The languages aren't much alike, but the written forms have a lot in common. Japanese having borrowed kanji from the Chinese, changing meanings and then adding the kana. If Mr. Digital Cutup Lounge does Japanese then it sure would be cool if he volunteered his services for this little project as long as no one else has done it before. However the text in the Mu booklet is almost all kana, so a real Japanese knowlege is pretty much required. From what I can tell with my pitiful knowlage of Japanese, a large portion of what's there is KLF releases in katakana (a phontic alphabet for emphisis and non Japanese languages) Something about Columbus in 1492....Blah blah blah, "The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu"......blah "represion".....1000 years....."What Time is Love?"..."remodel"...."America"....blah blah... "UK National Chart", "Club Chart" blah..blah "No.1 US Billbord chart, club chart" Somethig about J&A, Maxine Harvy, new 12" version..... I have a friend that may be able to find time to do it. I just ICQed him we shall see what he says. I doubt there is any new info in this little book, but I've been wondering what the thing says since I boght the disk in '92, and I think a lot of other people are in the same boat since most of the book in in English and Japanese except for the "Nobby Style" article. Chad Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jencentral" Subject: (klf) KLF Online News Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:29:44 +0100 Hi Alex, habe gerade die Info bekommen, das unsere Homepage in der neuen Ausgabe Raveline beurteilt wird. Dies nur zur Information! Gru=DF Jens # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: (klf) 1987 boot/counterfeit Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:02:11 +0100 A thought just crossed my mind.. Is the new 1987 counterboot in stereo and good quality? If so, I might be interested in getting a copy, seeing as all I have at the moment is Marshall's 1987 boot.. Peace, K. FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: Re: (klf) It's Grim Up North Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:49:05 +0000 (GMT) Richard Atkinson wrote: > Hi. I was wondering - does anyone have the lyrics to the JAMs single It's > Grim Up North? I've looked around the web but can't find them anywhere. Well they were somewhere a while ago; but I can't find them. Anyhow here's my transcription of the extended mix from... ahem... 1992: -- David Datta wrote: > I would love to have them if you got 'em... No sooner said than done... -- Drew Radtke * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * It's Grim Up North by The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu Transcribed by Drew Radtke Bolton, Barnsley, Nelson, Colne, Burnley Bradford, Buxton, Crewe, Warrington, Widnes, Wigan, Leeds, Northwich, Nantwich, Knutsford, Hull, Sale, Salford, Southport, Leigh, Derby, Kearsley Keighley Maghull, Harrogate, Huddersfield, Oldham, Lancs, Grimsby, Glossop, Hebden Bridge, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North. Brighouse, Bootle, Featherstone, Speke, Runcorn, Rotherham, Rochdale, Barrow, Morecambe, Macclesfield, Lytham St. Annes Clitheroe, Cleethorpes, The M62, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North. Pendlebury, Prestwich, Preston, York, Skipton, Scunthorpe, Scarborough-on-Sea, Chester, Chorley, Cheedle Hulme, Ormskirk, Accrington Stanley, and Leigh, Ossett, Otley, Ikley Moor, Sheffield, Manchester, Castleford, Skem, Doncaster, Dewsbury, Hali-fax, Bingley, Bramall, Are all in the North. It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North. It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North, It's Grim Up North. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Ives Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspottersonly! ;-) Date: 25 Mar 2000 01:24:35 +0800 Chad Gombosi wrote: > If Mr. Digital Cutup Lounge does Japanese then it sure would be cool if he > volunteered his services for this little project as long as no one else has > done it before. > well (actually it's stephen - but mr. DCL will suffice !! - as long as you start DJ'ing and join the ddj-list !!) - I can easily get it translated for you - depends on the number of words really if kumi (japanese lady here on this island) is willing to do it --- tell you what - offer something interesting like one of these cdr's of the white-room and/or waiting (I'll pay costs) shipped our way (HK) and sorted .... - just need a scan of the sleeve - used to be available here - but far far too much money to buy !!! oh yeah forgot - for some live mixing of our-man BILL into fusoid jazz/triped-mayhem - 4 or 5 mins in ("and from somewhere I hear......") - visit the DCL soundz page (fringe gig part one should do the trick) -Real Audio and mono - but what the heck... - anyone else on this list doing anything live with computers - lets talk - anyone having seen live PC/MAC performances (coldcut etc etc) - I would like to talk off list with you..... now off to practice for a 15 minute gig we have on sunday in a 1000 audiance chinese punk gig (load up the aphex-twin I say!!! and roll it...) - cheers... mr.digitalcutuplounge ... now where di I put my virtual-turntables???? http://www.ourfounder.com/digitalcutuplounge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) Make Mine a "99" Date: 24 Mar 2000 20:53:21 +0100 > >could somebody explain me this expression (and background if exist) used > >in J&A? > >A "99" is a cone with soft ice cream with a special kind of chokolate flake >pressed into the ice cream. And here is a picture: http://www.algonet.se/~anders/klf/64-07.jpeg anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Some KLF lyrics (was: IGUN) Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:07:00 +0100 (CET) Hi, I put some KLF lyrics (all I have) on ftp I announced several days back. So, if you want something, there are... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) HMV '1987' & 'Chill Out' LP 'Reissues' - for trainspottersonly! ;-) Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:00:51 PST >well (actually it's stephen - but mr. DCL will suffice !! - as long as you >start DJ'ing and join the ddj-list !!) I'm allready on the ddj list! - I can easily get it translated for you >- depends on the number of words really if kumi (japanese lady here on this >island) That would be cool, I have someone lined up too. is willing to do it --- tell you what - offer something interesting >like one of these cdr's of the white-room and/or waiting Myself, I do not have it. I have Mu, but no video CDRs, niot yet anyway. - just need a scan of the sleeve Hmmm. Don't have scanner. Sorry. I think a lot of people have this CD here anyway. - used to >be available here - but far far too much money to buy !!! Only $20 here. Of course that was like 8 years ago...probably been marked up since then. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Simpson Subject: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:47:56 -0800 (PST) went to the record store tday to finally get the Mr. Oizo cd cuz they ran out of it before (highly recomended!) and i saw a compilation that has both Moby AND KLF on it! it's called Machine Soul: An Oddysey Into Electronic Dance Music and it just so happens that CDnow has a tracklist and samples! so heres tha list: CD 1 (cdnow has samples for all of these!) Kraftwerk: The Robots The Normal: Warm Leatherette Donna Summer: I Feel Love Sparks: Number One Song In Heaven OMD: Electricity (not the Moby remix ;) Gary Numan: Cars Throbbing Gristle: Adremalin Cabaret Voltaire: Yashar (now playing, i like them now ;) Afrika Bambaataa/Soul Sonic Force:Planet Rock (classic, i heart this song!) Newcleus: Jam On Revenge Cybotron: Clear New Order: Blue Monday (why does everyone who gets a New Order song for a compilation get this one? hasnt everyone heard it a million times, and has several copies?) Rhythim Is rhythim: Strings Of Life Disc 2 (cdnow samples starred *) M/A/R/R/S: Pump Up The Volume (Radio Edit) (suckers!) Inner City: Big Fun Depeche Mode: Enjoy The Silence (Single Edit) *KLF: WHAT TIME IS LOVE? (LIVE AT TRANCENTRAL MIX) (i listened to the sample, i guess its the album version, with the rap and all, its definitely not the classic Live At Oz version but i guess that wouldnt work on a cd like this...) Orb: Little Fluffy Clouds (Dance Mix MKI Edit) (another sadly predictable choice) the most predictable "history of techno/rave/electronic muzik" compilation cut ever: MOBY: GO! (like, do some people even know he recorded other stuff? it seemed like for a while everyone was getting this for a compilation, and now that he's popular with Play and all theres all these Play songs on comps, and now heres Go again.... oh well...) Shamen: Move Any Mountain (IRP In The Land Of Oz) LA Style: James Brown Is Dead (7" version) (no hes not!) THE Prodigy: Charly (Alley Cat Mix) 9not to be confused with any Firestarter band ;) *Underworld: Rez (this has been on a few comps too...) *Chems: Life Is Sweet Fluke: Absurd (Mighty Dub Katz Vox Mix) *Uberzone: 2 Kool 4 Skool (Short) Paul Van Dyk: For An Angel (PVD Angel in Heaven Radio Mix) BT: Godspeed (BT Edit) ......and MPEG samples are up for ALL OF THESE SONGS btw. and aparently, MOBY COMPILED IT!!! heres the CDNow review: The latest project from the currently ubiquitous Moby is _Machine Soul_, a two-cd collection chronicling the history of electronic/dance music.Moby (along with Craig DeGraff and Johan Kugelberg) co-produced the compilation, as well as contributed liner notes to the informative 40-page booklet included in the set. You have to hand it to Moby, though, for as many different projects as the 21st century's version of James Brown (IE "The hardest working man in show business" [to folks at Mobility, we had a discussion about this before, so heres proof! Moby is the hardest working etc.!])is involved in, the quality seldom slips. _Machine Soul_ is an impressive compilation on many efforts: as a historical document of the electronic music revolution, as a killer two-cd set, and as a celebration of eclecticism. Fittingly, the collection begins with the idiosyncratic blips and bleeps of Kraftwerk, that as the liner notes state, "started it all", by helping introduce synthesizers and drum machines as "accepted instruments." Coming only two songs after Kraftwerk's "Robots" is Donna Summer; the "queen of disco" is represented by the funky synthesizers of "I Feel Love." That kind of diversity runs rampant through _Machine Soul_, particularly on disc one. Afrika Bambaataa & The Soul Sonic Force's infectious hip-hop flavored [hiphop flavored?] party anthem, "Planet Rock", follow's Cabaret Voltaire's dark "Yashaa", a song that blends aggressive synthesizers with a Middle Eastern vibe. While some of the older material, particularly Throbbing Gristle's "Adrenalin", sounds dated, its nice to see such bands as OMD, one of the early proponents of crafting pop hooks with synthesizers, get their due. Disc two will include more recognizable names to newer converts to electronic music. Many of the biggest acts on the scene today, including the Prodigy, Paul Van Dyk, The Chemical Brothers, and The Orb, appear on disc two. The standout tracks include Moby's classic "Go", a seminal mix [we've also talked about calling this seminal before, eh?] of ambience, energy, and female vocals; LA Style's frenetically paced club favorite "James Brown Is Dead"; BT's "Godspeed"; and Underworld's uplifting "Rez", which slowly rises to multiple epiphanies. As with any historically minded compilation, there are some notable omissions (in particular Brian Eno, Can, and Leftfield), but _Machine Soul_ is more than an adequate starting point for the unitiated. And those who fanct themselves connoisseurs of electronic music [will probly have all these trax and not buy it ;] will enjoy being able to trace the history from Kraftwerk all the wat to BT." hmmmm right also theres complete liner notes for evertyhing, and some pictures, INCLUDING A PHOTO OF BILL AND JIMI THAT IVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, and it talks about the million quid (i think) and ***K the Millenium, and all that stuff. oh yeah, its on Rhino and it comes in one of those old school double-sized double cd cases. i gotta go now, my mom is yellin at me. time to listen to some "royal Astronomy"now ;) BYE! PAUL ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 24 Mar 2000 20:38:54 PST >went to the record store tday to finally get the Mr. >Oizo cd cuz they ran out of it before (highly >recomended!) and i saw a compilation that has both >Moby AND KLF on it! > This isn't the only comp with both Moby and KLF on it. There are at least two CDs with a "Chill Out" kind of name with both of them on it. One that I bought years ago, and a UK one that came out not more than a year ago that has a picture of a fridge on it. On these comps they pick better songs. The one I had back when had WTIL (pure trance) and the Moby songs was something ambient like God's Voice Moving Over the Watters or whatever that one was called. Moby is pretty hard working. Every since Play came out (quite a while ago) he has been everywhere. I've turned on the TV sometimes and seen him on two channals at once! He is going to be in two concerts with Bush next month in my area (some MTV thing) and I live in the middle of *nowhere*! I liked Play, it was one of my fvorite albums of last year, but I'm not as impressed with Moby's output as I was with the Everything is Wrong stuff. Back then it seemed like he was doing about a remix a week, most by himself, while the Play-era stuff is mostly guest remixes, and not as good. I *loved* the Ferry Corsten remix of Why Does My Heart Feal So Bad?. I mean I *loved* it. I've pretty much wore out the record in fact. As far as I know that single didn't get a US release, and that is a crime. As for the new Moby single Natural Blues.....well if you ever wanted to know why Paul Oakenfield is often called overrated, here you go. His remix is weak! This one was obviuosly releases just because fot eh Madanna movie. I would love a Scourge of the Earth remix of South Side. Now *that* would be worth buying. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) The ORB's new single/Cauty RMX Date: 25 Mar 2000 07:25:23 GMT Hi all! I just heard the Cauty remix of "Once Again", The ORB's forthcoming single! It's absolutely GREAT!!! Scourge of the Earth in Effect! When will this mix come out regularly? Any info? Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark reed" Subject: Re: (klf) rare LTTT mix? Date: 25 Mar 2000 09:48:55 GMT 'v been offered a comp featuring "Last Train.." which apparently features a very different, untitled mix. The comp is Called "Indie Top 20 Vol 6" or somethig like that. Anybody know if the mix is exclusive? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: RE: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 25 Mar 2000 06:13:33 -0500 > MOBY: GO! (like, do some people even know he recorded > other stuff? it seemed like for a while everyone was > getting this for a compilation, and now that he's > popular with Play and all theres all these Play songs > on comps, and now heres Go again.... oh well...) > [Thorne, Chris] Did you hear Moby has licensed out every song on the Play album... not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Poirier" Subject: Re: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 25 Mar 2000 15:46:22 -0000 > [Thorne, Chris] Did you hear Moby has licensed out every song on > the Play album... not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing..... Every second commercial in England seems to use music from Play, as do alot of the BBC show adverts. Very disconcerting. Dave. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) help me please!!! Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:08:09 +1200 Allo, i need to get hold of a good quality scan of the KLF pyramid blaster (the ones on mancentral aint detailed enough) suitable for blowing up and sticking on a shirt etc. cheers picked up Mind Lagoons by Skyray today, not bad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: (klf) KLF on VH-1 in this hour! Date: 25 Mar 2000 21:07:43 +0200 Watch it, not sure which video they gonna show... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kubi Subject: Re: (klf) KLF on VH-1 in this hour! Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:07:22 +0100 David A wrote: > > Watch it, not sure which video they gonna show... > Don`t have VH-1, which one did they play ? kubi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF on VH-1 in this hour! Date: 26 Mar 2000 00:10:32 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Cc: KLF list Sent: =E9=E5=ED =F8=E0=F9=E5=EF 26 =EE=F8=F5 2000 00:07 > > David A wrote: > > > > Watch it, not sure which video they gonna show... > > > Don`t have VH-1, which one did they play ? "Justified & Ancient" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 26 Mar 2000 12:28:25 +0200 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Stephen Kennedy Till: KLF Mailing List Datum: den 22 mars 2000 08:25 =C4mne: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? >I agree though that the timing of this to coincide with the "Instore >Sampler" and Space CD bootlegs suggests this is a bootleg too. I'd like = to >know who Mark Reed is and where he gets his info from - I mean, I hope = he's >right :) > >I also don't buy this thing about "price fixing". HMV can charge = whatever >they like as long as they're not acting with others as a cartel. > >Steve You're definitely right there, and I don't buy that a withdrawal only = should affect the copies on the shop shelves, it has to include warehouse = copies as well, hasn't it? I mean, a withdrawal is a _withdrawal_, ... or? / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) beat dis! Date: 26 Mar 2000 12:23:46 +0200 I think I can buy it, but there's nothing revolutionary about it ...=20 All these "common samples" became famous by the use of Todd Terry. And it's an undeniable fact that his work around that time (later as = well) greatly influenced other acts (and still does to some degree). I would say that his records most likely made an impact on Bill & Jimmy = too, but as mentioned above, there's nothing revolutionary about that, is it? / Robert PS. Sorry for responding to this topic a bit late. While I've been away = for approx 2 weeks, the lists posting frequency has exploded once again. :) Still got a hundred posts to catch up with (phew). DS -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Culf Till: klf@xmission.com Datum: den 21 mars 2000 23:23 =C4mne: Re: (klf) beat dis! >Nah, sorry, I don't buy this. > >On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Justified wrote: > >> Ever wondered WHO influenced the KLF 'n making house music? While = Bill was >> influenced by the 60's sound and Jimmy loved the 70's metall = bands....who >> who're their Rave Idols??? >> -Todd Terry..... its The Todd Terry Project that made Bill and Jimmy = produce >> such fine Pure Trance music.... > >> -They used the Todd Terry "Bang To The Batmobile" sample in Go To = Sleep.... > >A common sample. > >> -"the Todd Terry project was the last thing that i heard, i searched = for the >> answer there was not much to find and Kylie Said To Jason...." > >Uh-huh, Todd Terry was popular in the UK clubs around 1988. > >> -Ever heard "Weekend" from Todd Terry? released same time as Burn The >> Beat...."What we gonna do here is go back....." > >Another common sample. > >> -notice the BBC omnibus vid....they re in a record store... ' > >Can't recall. > >> -Bill about house music.."Things like French Kiss and Todd Terry. Now = Todd >> Terry had three or four classic singles in 1988, all independents." > >That's undeniably true. They also all sounded pretty much the same, = the >"Todd Terry" sound was well known. One was on Sleeping Bag, at least = two >of the others were on Champion (in the UK). > >> -and if u listen closely you 'll find some familiar instruments in = KLF pure >> trance hits that Todd Terry uses... > >Cheap-end instruments that many producers on a budget have used. = Nothing >surprising in that. > >It's fairly easy to derive these apparent "links" between The KLF and = Todd >Terry, but I don't buy that Bill or Jimmy thought of him as some sort = of >rave god to be emulated. Many of the links are probably co-incidental, = or >at least Bill just fancying nicking them. I don't read anything more = into >it that that. > >Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: Re: (klf) Jimmy's Looking Glass contributions Date: 26 Mar 2000 13:59:08 +0100 - 24/3/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Dan Kuta >Can anyone tell me where to find pictures/scans/etc. of Jimmy's work >for the Looking Glass experiment? you can see small versions of them at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2399/faq1013.html i've got larger (x2) versions of them if you need them for something, but the quality isn't any better. if anyone has any high quality pics of them, can they let me know as well - i really like them and its a shame i haven't got better pics of them. hope this helps. I see a red door and i want to paint it black No colours anymore i want them to turn black I see the girls walk by in their summer clothes i have to turn my head until my darkness goes i want to see it painted, painted black black as night, black as a hole i wanna see the sun, blotted out of the sky - Rolling Stones, 'Paint it black' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) "Once More" (Orb) remixed by Jimmy Cauty Date: 26 Mar 2000 19:51:04 CEST Hi! Just got a CD-R copy of the Once More remix. It's absolutely fantastic!!! When will this single come out regularly? I MUST have the single! Bye, DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) "Once More" (Orb) remixed by Jimmy Cauty Date: 26 Mar 2000 20:16:07 +0200 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dan Kuta > Sent: 26 March 2000 21:51 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) "Once More" (Orb) remixed by Jimmy Cauty > > > > Hi! > > Just got a CD-R copy of the Once More remix. It's absolutely fantastic!!! > When will this single come out regularly? I MUST have the single! > > Bye, DAN Any chance for a mp3 ? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: (klf) Shamen (Non KLF!) Date: 27 Mar 2000 00:45:00 +0200 Hi everybody! At the beginning of March there were some discussions on this list about Shamen. Although there are no direct links between KLF and Shamen, at least not to my knowledge, several people on this list participated in the discussions. Shamen seemed to be of great interest to some of you and one of the issues discussed were if there is a Shamen mailing list alive and kicking somewhere, like this list for an example. So far, the answer to that question seems to be: No! As most of you figured out by now, I'm thinking of putting one up ... If you like this idea and want to join such a list, discussing the=20 historic, current & phuture adventures of Colin, Mr C & Co, please e-mail me privately at robert@jsr.pp.se . Do NOT send it to the = KLF-list,=20 since that would be very off-topic! If the interest is strong enough, I will try to get a list up and = running during this spring. / Regards Robert "We are phorever people" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) chill out Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:32:43 +0100 ok, after all the excitement on the list about this and the 1987 lps i thought i'd order a copy from hmv - it arrived within a day or two ! anyways, i stooped so low as to dig out my original chill out lp and my 1987 original lp, and compare them to the recent arrivals. well - 1987, the new one is in a stark white cover, as opposed to the off-white/creaminess of the original cover. the groove details have been printed on the new one, as opposed to hand-etched on the original and also there is the obvious missing a4 inlay sheet with all the super stuff you could order from bill&jimmy suchas klf car, jacket, helicopter etc...also on the p.d. blaster, there's a difference with the electric spark things coming outta the top between the old&new - they're either missing or they're not ! chill out, the new one has slightly different colouring - the sky looks almost purple, whereas the original looks a more natural colour. the picture on the new one looks as if its been stretched slightly at the right hand edge and is not quite as big as the original. the new one also has no mention of the KLF on the cover or the vinyl itself as far as i can remember - whereas the original has the KLF letters scattered on the cover a coupla times. so, it seems that these are not the same as the originals, but if it keeps my original's in good condition, by playing the boots, well it don't make no diff does it ? soz to have bored you with the extreme geekiness of this useless knowledge. i made up for it by promptly driving down to brighton and dancing like a loon at the big beat boutique on friday night at the concorde 2 which was tops. toodlepip saint samps The Kause - into the nineties and beyond. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: (klf) Lyrics.... Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:58:31 +0200 Hi folks, I just popped into Adam Hauner's io.pinknet.cz FTP site to see if any more MPEGs had popped up. No new ones, but I noticed that he had uploaded a fairly extensive lyrics archive. A cursory glance at the words to All You Need Is Love turned up at least one error/doubt that I think I can help with. Swinging chicks is all part of the plan >From Monday night ? to the Klu-Klux-Klan That should be: From Mandy Rice-Davies to the Klu-Klux-Klan Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler being the girls at the heart of the Profumo sex-scandal that rocked the Tory British Government in 1963. I always though it was 'Swinging 60's, all part of the plan' rather than 'Swinging chicks...'. Anyone else agree. Does anyone maintain this lyrics archive, or another one? -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Lyrics.... Date: 27 Mar 2000 12:20:21 +0200 Andrew, > I always though it was 'Swinging 60's, all part of the plan' > rather than 'Swinging chicks...'. Anyone else agree. It's definitely 60's to my ears. Peace, K. FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics.... Date: 27 Mar 2000 12:22:59 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote: > From Mandy Rice-Davies to the Klu-Klux-Klan > Does anyone maintain this lyrics archive, or another one? I'll try to re-order this archive... If something missing, my e-mail is known =) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Sample list Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Hi, somebody asked for KLF's sample list: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/l/lazlo/music/klf/etc/klf-sampleidlist-v3.2.txt -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: (klf) Metaluna Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:36:48 +0200 Browsing through the Lyrics Adam posted, I found the familiar quote: Last Train To Trancentral 808Bass and 120 Rock Steady versions ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't know where it's from but I want to see this film, it sounds great. It could be from a movie called ' This Island Earth' from 1955. I found the following on http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b2506017/sf/24.htm: --SNIP-- Aliens from Metaluna, who are at war with the Zahgons, kidnap a group of Earth scientists and ask, then order, them to help repair the falling planetary shield that protects Metaluna. But, before they can do this, the Zahgons disintegrate the shield. The remaining scientists (Reason and Domergue), with the help of Morrow's friendly Metalunian, escape just in time. --SNIP-- I (now) hear the sample Subject: Re: (klf) Metaluna Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:44:08 CEST >It could be from a movie called ' This Island Earth' from 1955. I found the >following on http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b2506017/sf/24.htm: Yep, from a logic p.o.v. it should be this movie (although I don't know it) >I (now) hear the sample >as > >Does anyone else hear this? There's no doubt that he says "another planet". But this would fit the context, too, wouldn't it? ;) DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:46:10 +0200 > This isn't the only comp with both Moby and KLF on it. There are at least > two CDs with a "Chill Out" kind of name with both of them on it. > One that I > bought years ago, and a UK one that came out not more than a year > ago that > has a picture of a fridge on it. I also have a COMA records sampler from around 1990, which packs the radio edit of KLF/Tammy's J&A, the short version of IGUN, and Moby's Go (Rainforest Mix), the latter quite brutal, to say the least :) I believe the name is "The sound of COMA", perhaps volume 3, not sure as I don't have the CD right here (sitting at work ATM).. I'll check it when I get home. Not sure if this is in the discog, actually.. I'll check that as well when I get home, and if it isn't I'll submit the relevant details. Come to think of it, there's also a track called Sundown (Sunshine and the 909 babymix) on it, and I've always been wondering if the baby in the babymix is Cosmic Baby.. Anyone know? Always really liked the track at least.. Peace, K. FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5, 1432 GD AALSMEER, The Netherlands, +31(0)297-382323 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Metaluna Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:44:58 +0100 > It could be from a movie called ' This Island Earth' from 1955. I found the > following on http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b2506017/sf/24.htm: OK - being a huge fan of "This Island Earth" I can shed some, but not much light on the question. The conept of the sample does relate to the film, however the lines used in the sample do not actually exist in the film. There is a similar line; when Exter (an alien from Metaluna) kidnaps Dr Ruth, and Dr Adams and takes them to Metaluna, and is explaining to them why he's kidnapped them. I would be interested in knowing if the sample does come from anything else though, such as a Science Fiction Theatre version of the film, rather than the original. Thanks Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Re: made @ 3 am coming off E Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:51:32 CEST >i mean, this must be a brand new one from cauty. I saw it on samplecity, >but cant find it anywhere. It's not brand new but a studio tape that Mr. Positive Void (maybe ask him for a copy) dug out somehow. It's a kind of sample war and gives you another 45 minutes of excitement. _Basically_ it's the full recording of these Chill Out 2 session boots I'd say. I compared both and found two differences: Made@3am is much better quality and around 45 instead of 25 mins long... So it's definately worth getting! (Although the cover art is not that nice ;) DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) ZeroHour Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:34:11 +0200 (CEST) Hi, maybe I missed something, but anybody know something about Zerohour? http://www.zerohour.net/ - it's just used picture or something more? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: (klf) chill out Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:19:16 GMT Hi there, this is my first time here and i hope this message will work out. If you take a good look at the sleeve, you must have seen that the two picture shots of the sheep are _exactely_ the same. On the original sleeve, you can see the sheep having different looks. There are also some printing mistakes. "Justefied _Ans_ Ancient..." and "Six _Hors_ To Louisiana..." The more, on the backside you can see that it says "thanks" The original JAMSLP5 gives "The KLF would like to thank..." I bought this copy in the Netherlands @Boudisque. They promised me Space too, but.... Anyways. I think it is a cheap repressing/rerelease of an old classic from The KLF. Thats because there are missing fatal creditnotes and due to the spelling mistakes. Shame on the ppl who pressed it... Cheers, Blue Danube Orbital ---------The North Will Rise--------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: (klf) Re Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:01:51 GMT ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: (klf) chill out Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:13:10 GMT wow, a mistake... lets do that *again* >There seems to be TWO official UK pressing. One which is the >JAMSCD5, and >the other JAMSCD89005 which has a white border all around the CD. I think this is a belgian release from Chill Out (indisc).Its written on the disc too... So That should solve the problems about two official releases. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Lyrics - updated, etc. Date: 27 Mar 2000 22:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Hi, I updated "All You Need Is Love" and made strong re-order of lyrics files, added two MIDI files and some info texts (Liner notes, live appearences, FAQ, Mancentral Tracks and Thee Kollaborators) + The Manual. If you think, that you can add or transcribe any other lyrics, make corrections, I'll rather obtain your e-mail =) (BTW some texts I took from personal pages for my KLF CDs and now I'm putting it on the net. If you are author, I do apologize, but I want to make collection on one place for KLF's fans, not for personal profit.) [And the next will be.... pictures?] -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: illitrate Subject: RE: (klf) Jimmy's Looking Glass contributions Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:23:34 +0100 - 27/3/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Brent Moore >Aren't these from Simon Cauty's "Coke Wars" project on his site? Can't >remember the URL tho.. dunno - all i know is that those 4 pictures are what were displayed on the Looking Glass site when you got it aligned properly each time and were attributed to Jimi Cauty. whether Simon did them, had a part in them, or is hosting them for Jimi, i couldn't comment. -- jai nelson jai@illitrate.cx http://www.illitrate.cx --- "Egon, this reminds me of the time you tried to drill a hole through your head, remember that?" "That would have worked if you hadn't stopped me." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: made @ 3 am coming off E Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:51:39 +0100 Did Tim (Mr. Positive Void) ever actually say where this came from? Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Poirier" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: made @ 3 am coming off E Date: 28 Mar 2000 01:10:25 +0100 > Did Tim (Mr. Positive Void) ever actually say where this came from? > > Simon Quoth the mailing list: ==================================================================== greetings on the 20th and 21st of march 1999 i was privileged to join gimpo mad and kevin (is that the energy of love in my shorts or have i just followed through) dean on this years m25 - 25 hour spin whilst orbiting london an exclusive track by jimmy cauty's acoustic armourments association was played as part of the films soundtrack and a conversation ensued about how jimmy was thinking of selling one of his sonic sound system apv's those of you who know me will be well aware that i have spent much of the last decade putting together the most comprehensive collection of KLF (et al) music and memorabilia in the uk (and probably the rest of the world) unable to resist such an opportunity i have in the last few weeks been working to agree a price which both jimmy and i are happy with but needless to say the value of such an item is monumentally high as the sound system alone is worth over 15 thousand uk pounds my driving force for buying the tank is to organise a free 4 day rave over the millenium (31/12 - 3/1) that will rival the last massive free rave that took place on uk soil in 1992 at druggers end near malvern in worcestershire just before the public order and criminal justice bill came into effect needless to say i need to raise some of the funds to get this project moving and so i have dug deep into my collection and picked out one of the previously unreleased and unique recordings that i have and propose to exclusively release the 45 minute track on a strictly limited edition (500 copies only) professionally produced cd sadly the track has no name but is simply marked "made @ 3am KLF coming down off e" and can best be described as a true ambient house classic every bit the equal (imho) of chill out and waiting if the attraction of having this recording alone is not sufficient motivation each cds individual number will be logged and used in a "raffle style draw" the winning cd owner will be invited along to meet jimmy when he/she may get the cd autographed i am acutely aware that there are still some list members who have not yet received their cds from lsom projects (i count myself in this list) and still others who may have given up all hope of seeing either their cd or money back from mike dutton to those skeptically minded all i can say is that i have been on this list for the best part of 5 years and in that time i have helped many of you find KLF rarities and not so rarities without cause for complaint in either my reliability or punctuality of delivery unfortunately i am also conscious that there is an increased risk that within a short time of the cds release a more industriously minded individual may take it upon him/herself to rip the track to mp3 and drop it onto their website or some other cd collection to avoid confusion here is how the cds release will work : 1. DO NOT SEND ME ANY MONEY NOW 2. if you are interested in supporting this project by buying a cd please send me a mail with *cd project* as the subject header and the details of your desired order in the message body 3. orders will be received until 23/06/99 or until the cds are sold out (whichever is sooner) 4. after the 23/06/99 all orders will be confirmed along with details for payment 5. once an order is confirmed you will have 2 weeks to get payment to me (should payment not be received - your order may be reallocated) 6. all paid up orders will despatched from 23/07/99 onwards 7. on the 23/08/99 gimpo will draw the winning cd number and it will be published on the list thereafter 8. interested participants will also be given advance notification of details about the free rave to fuck the millennium the last detail is that of cost - the cd will be priced 25 ukp inclusive of p+p i realise this is slightly more than the average cost of a cd album here in the uk however this is slightly more than an average cd album i look forward to your future communications thanx for your indulgance tim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Re: made @ 3 am coming off E Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:20:53 EST > Did Tim (Mr. Positive Void) ever actually say where this came from? Legend has it that he gave a copy to Gimpo to play to Jimmy to verify it's authenticity. Jimmy demanded the tapes back claiming they were stolen. This dates back to when they were originally offered and withdrawn. "fear can go fuck itself" -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: Subject: (klf) chill out Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:32:10 GMT well hi there, I have got the same copy of Chill Out as you have got. Have you noticed that there are a few spelling mistakes on the label? "Six Hors To Louisiana" and "Justefied Ans Ancient" "Thanks" should be "The KLF would like to thank" And the only thing on which you can see that it is actually the KLF, is because there is a piramide blaster and the names of Jimmy and Bill have been printed down on the label. Have you noticed that the pictures on the sleeve are the very same? The original Chill Out features two different photos of the sheep. Final question, is that address still correct at the end of the sleeve? Cheers, blue danube orbital ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Moore Subject: RE: (klf) Jimmy's Looking Glass contributions Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:30:13 -0700 Aren't these from Simon Cauty's "Coke Wars" project? I remember seeing them on his site (can't remember the URL tho..) -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 5:59 AM - 24/3/00 - Deciphered incoming transmission from: Dan Kuta >Can anyone tell me where to find pictures/scans/etc. of Jimmy's work >for the Looking Glass experiment? you can see small versions of them at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2399/faq1013.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) Jimmy's Looking Glass/Simon's Coke Wars Date: 27 Mar 2000 23:28:53 -0500 Here's the address for Simon's site: http://www.compartvr.demon.co.uk/ Once you get there click on "off the wall", wait for it to load then click on "projects". Coke Wars is featured there. Looks to be the same art to me. Simon just has it animated. -D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Lyrics - updated, (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:29:30 +0200 Hi folks, I did a job on the lyrics to 'The Queen and I'. I think they're pretty much correct now. I'm sending this direct to Adam as well, so if anyone strongly disagrees with me, speak up before it goes into the lyrics archive. Deletions are marked with '-', additions with '+' and unchanged lines with '|'. I threw in a few explanatory comments as well. -Andy | The Queen And I | --------------- | | you can dance | we can dance | having the time of your lives | see that girl | watch that scene | diggin the dancing queen | every time I saw TV | or I read the newspaper | there were all these stories | about Stevie and the Raper - The Zercon connection + The Zircon connection I think it should be 'Zircon', and I seem to remember it having something to do with a dodgy South African mining company. Not 100% sure though. - and the Peter Reich case + and the Peter Wright case Should definitely be Peter Wright - one time director of the UK secret service MI5, his autobiography (published in 1987) caused a huge stir in the UK because it revealed information covered by the Official Secrets Act. I believe it was banned in the UK, but was available in Australia. Caused a very big hoo-haa ay the time. - the loonie land times - with their budget in disgrace + the looney left council + with their budget in disgrace Certain Labour City Councils, notably Liverpool and the Greater London Council, had very left wing/socialist sympathies, much more so than the central Labour Party itself, and the Thatcher government did everything in their power to crush there credibility (and dissolved the GLC). | I asked myself | what am I to believe - when the cancer is a killer - John Player wins a lead + when their cancer is a killer + John Player wins the league John Player being a cigarette manufacturer and major sponsor of UK sporting events, including a one-day cricket league if I remember correctly. | with masters of the universe | and designer death - they all be talkin + they all keep talking | about Princess Di's dress - Yes, This is a very nice dress + Yes, it's a very nice dress | When I was younger, | I knew just who to hate | from the teachers in our classroom | to the leaders of our state - I've registered to vote + I'm registered to vote | this pleasant land's free Note: 'England's green and pleasant land' from William Blake's poem/hymn 'Jerusalem' - which also forms the basis for 'Jerusalem On The Moors' on JAMS 28CD. | so I took the intercity | for democracy and me | I knocked at the door - but they did na let me in + but they didnae let me in Usual transcription of Scots is 'didnae' | so I kicked it down | and I walked right in | she was standing at the bar - while Healy cut his truss - question time, make it work Not quite sure about these lines, but I think its: + While Healey cut his thrust + Question time. "Mine Came First!" | Dancing queen | Dancing queen | oh yeah | You can dance | see that girl | dancing queen | I just want to know | who's in control | is it you or god - or the bloke down the door - her answers were shate - but I dinna give up - so I went to the law - but it dint even wake up + or the bloke down the dole + Her answers were shite + but I didnae give up + so I went to the lords + but they didnae wake up As in the House of Lords. The Lords are renowned for dozing in their seats rather that doing any real political work. | so I went to the palace - that good queen bess + There's good queen Bess' | she asked me to dance | said she'd like a rest | Boy D'll be king - "I'd love to get the throne" - here's the keys to the castle - Your in control + "I'll abdicate the throne + Here's the keys to the castle. + You're in control" | Dancing queen | proud and sweet | only seventeen | "Wot about Charles?" | "I like Charles" | dancing queen - she's a ? on the tabourine ("You ? court ??") - "Rock, I've got the kingdom" + She's a dream on the tambourine. + "You know the corgis? + Rock, I've got to feed them" Referring to the Queen's corgi dogs. | Having the time of her life - "You want a ?" - "What you talking about, do I get to go home first?" -"? me an Rock" - "I want a lot of money" - ? + "You wanna bet? + Talking of bets, do I get to go horse racing? + Y'know, with your mum? + I lost a lot of money once on horse racing"' | "Have you ever met ABBA?" | "I'd love to meet ABBA" | "They used to be one of my favorite groups" - Dancing Queen! + God save the queen | You can da | you can da | having the time of her life | see that girl | dancing queen - Dancing queen, yeah, just destroy!!! + God save the Queen. + Get pissed. Destroy! -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Blumenthal, Michael (ELS)" Subject: RE: (klf) Lyrics - updated Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:55:06 +0100 Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote : > - The Zercon connection > + The Zircon connection > I think it should be 'Zircon', and I seem to remember it having something to do with > a dodgy South African mining company. Not 100% sure though. In 1986 journalist Duncan Campbell's report on the Zircon spy satellite was banned, his house was raided and Special Branch raided the BBC's Scottish offices to seize films and documents connected with the programme. fits nicely with Peter Wright and was fairly topical at the time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) The Zircon connection Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:00:25 +0100 + The Zircon connection If I remember correctly, Zircon was some sort of a spy satellite or other military secret. This was a big story circa 1987 uncovered by investigative journalist Duncan Campbell. + Question time. "Mine Came First!" Could be 'Prime Minister's question time' (daily political ritual in UK House of Commons) given that there is a reference to Dennis Healy (Ex UK Prime Minister), or could be the BBC's "Question Time" programme. Probably the former. Hope this helps! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) Re: made @ 3 am coming off E Date: 28 Mar 2000 11:15:37 +0200 > Chill > Out 2 session boots How many chill out versions / boots whatever are there actually? I believe the sessions cannot be found in the discography? What is for example the difference between sessions 2 and 3? PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Lyrics - updated Date: 28 Mar 2000 11:14:34 +0200 | Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote : | > - The Zercon connection | > + The Zircon connection | In 1986 journalist Duncan Campbell's report on the Zircon spy | satellite was | banned, his house was raided and Special Branch raided the | BBC's Scottish | offices to seize films and documents connected with the programme. | | fits nicely with Peter Wright and was fairly topical at the time. Good man! That makes perfect sense. Now why don't I remember anything about that? Too much revelling in my first months at university I suspect. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The Queen And I - Satellite Date: 28 Mar 2000 11:28:38 +0200 (CEST) I'm sorry, but my fingers were faster then mind - I deleted both comments after Andy's corrected version - can authors send me it (aha@pinknet.cz, not to list) one more time? BTW I would like to add comment bellow song lyrics, because often is meaning of songs hidden for non-UK persons. Anybody disagree? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: FW: (klf) The Zircon connection Date: 28 Mar 2000 11:42:12 +0200 | From: Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] | + Question time. "Mine Came First!" | | Could be 'Prime Minister's question time' (daily political | ritual in UK | House of Commons) given that there is a reference to Dennis | Healy (Ex UK | Prime Minister), or could be the BBC's "Question Time" | programme. Probably | the former. I always assumed it was the former. But, Dennis Healy, of bushy eyebrow fame, was never Prime Minister, was he? I think he was briefly 'leader of the opposition' in the early Thatcher years along with the Rt. Hon. Michael 'Dirty Raincoat' Foot. Squashed in between James Callaghan and Neil Kinnock. But I believe he was Shadow Chancellor during Thatcher's reign. Maybe he attacked the government in the House on some particularly important issue in '87, since he 'cut his thrust(?)'. Can't say I remember. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Was: Made@3am/Chill Out 2/3 Date: 28 Mar 2000 15:18:12 CEST >the sessions cannot be found in the discography? What is for example the >difference between sessions 2 and 3? Chill Out 2 consists of Parts One and Two (pretty much the same) and the Chill Out mix by the ORB. Chill Out 3 are two new mixes of already released ambient tracks like America No More, WTIL Virtual Reality, LTTT Mu D. Vari-Speed, 3am Blue Danube Orbital, Doctorin' Minimal, Me Ru Con Out Of Beaumont, Rock Radio, Build A Fire... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Machine Soul (Moby compiled?) Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:03:58 +0200 The name of the record is 'The Sound of COMA vol. 1'. Volume 2 has A:WTIL on it, and vol 3 and 4 contains no KLF tracks. The Sundown track is made by the danish Overlords, back in the days where they made great techno...This is probably their most famous track, together with 'Organic'. - Thomas -------------------- e-mail: cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com web: http://skynet.person.dk - UPDATED ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 4:46 PM > I believe the name is "The sound of COMA", perhaps volume 3, not sure as I > don't have the CD right here (sitting at work ATM).. I'll check it when I > get home. Not sure if this is in the discog, actually.. I'll check that as > well when I get home, and if it isn't I'll submit the relevant details. > > Come to think of it, there's also a track called Sundown (Sunshine and the > 909 babymix) on it, and I've always been wondering if the baby in the > babymix is Cosmic Baby.. Anyone know? > Always really liked the track at least.. > > Peace, > K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Delap Subject: RE: (klf) The Zircon connection Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:28:29 +0100 >+ Question time. "Mine Came First!" >Could be 'Prime Minister's question time' (daily political ritual in UK >House of Commons) given that there is a reference to Dennis Healy (Ex UK >Prime Minister), or could be the BBC's "Question Time" programme. Probably >the former. Healey was never Prime Minister.. but he was a "large" guy.. so my guess would be that the "Healey cut his crust" is to do with eating! steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Metaluna Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:06:11 +0200 There's also a band called 'The Metalunas' who sample stuff from 40's and 50's sci-fi movies and television series. Maybe the quote is from there.. - Thomas -------------------- e-mail: cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com web: http://skynet.person.dk - UPDATED ----- Original Message ----- Cc: "Klf (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 4:44 PM > > It could be from a movie called ' This Island Earth' from 1955. I found the > > following on http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b2506017/sf/24.htm: > > > I would be interested in knowing if the sample does come from anything else > though, such as a Science Fiction Theatre version of the film, rather than the > original. > > Thanks > > Craig! > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics - updated, (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 19:05:23 +0100 > - that good queen bess > + There's good queen Bess' > I thought it was "met good queen 'Bess" > | Dancing queen > | proud and sweet > | only seventeen > | "Wot about Charles?" It sounds like "young and sweet" to me... > | "I like Charles" > | dancing queen > - she's a ? on the tabourine ("You ? court ??") Feel the beat of the tambourine oh yeah? Dunno about the court or kingdom stuff.. > - "Rock, I've got the kingdom" > + She's a dream on the tambourine. > + "You know the corgis? > + Rock, I've got to feed them" What, I've got to feed them? > + "You wanna bet? > + Talking of bets, do I get to go horse racing? Talking of betting, do I get to go horse racing? (He says something else here but I dunno what) > | "Have you ever met ABBA?" > | "I'd love to meet ABBA" > | "They used to be one of my favorite groups" > > - Dancing Queen! > + God save the queen > > | You can da > | you can da You can da You can ji # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: (klf) Pelkin Burn? Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:18:57 -0500 Doesn't Bill's "Pelkin Burn" web site open tomorrow? Does anyone have the right address for it? It's deleted from my machine.... -D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) Pelkin Burn? Date: 28 Mar 2000 19:32:12 +0000 demetrius@poppad.com wrote: > > Doesn't Bill's "Pelkin Burn" web site open tomorrow? It's opening on 29th April, not March > Does anyone have the > right address for it? It's deleted from my machine.... www.penkiln-burn.com - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: Subject: (klf) Was: Made@3am/Chill Out 2/3 Date: 28 Mar 2000 19:14:39 GMT >Chill Out 3 are two new mixes of already released ambient tracks like >America No More, WTIL Virtual Reality, LTTT Mu D. Vari-Speed, >3am Blue >Danube Orbital, Doctorin' Minimal, **Me Ru Con Out Of >Beaumont**, Rock >Radio, Build A Fire... I mean, most of the tracks are in my hands, but what about this **Me Ru Con Out Of Beaumont**? Where does this track come from? I have never heard of this track. I do know Me Ru Con And 3 am eternal somewhere out of beaumont... cheers, maarten ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 - what the chuffs going on? Date: 28 Mar 2000 18:45:22 +0100 A mate of mine has recently sent me an e-mail to comment on this: >Described the album cover / tracks / text on disc inner / etc. to >a mate (CB) who seems to know just about everything about KLF (he >edited the book of the burning and spent last weekend with Bill's >family) and he reckons it's legit and genuine. >At least he snatched the HMV phone number to call to see if he >could order a copy ... > >CB told me a story that the legal action that led to the album's >withdrawl was from Abba and that (with some irronic/poetic >justice) they ceremoniously dumped a load of copies off the back >of a ferry to Sweden. > >He also confirmed the market 'list' price is around £80. I`ve told him that chances are that his copy is a fake too! :-O # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: FW: (klf) Lyrics - updated, (long) Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:54:47 +0200 > From: Twilight Isotope [mailto:greeble@softhome.net] - that good queen bess + There's good queen Bess' I thought it was "met good queen 'Bess" Makes sense to me, and sounds more natural. Another close listen confirms one point to Mr. Twilight Isotope. | Dancing queen | proud and sweet | only seventeen | "Wot about Charles?" It sounds like "young and sweet" to me... Another point to Mr. T.I. Definitely "young and sweet". | "I like Charles" | dancing queen - she's a ? on the tabourine ("You ? court ??") Feel the beat of the tambourine oh yeah? Yep, I agree again. Dunno about the court or kingdom stuff.. - "Rock, I've got the kingdom" + She's a dream on the tambourine. + "You know the corgis? + Rock, I've got to feed them" What, I've got to feed them? I'm not convinced about this one though. The intonation is wrong for a 'What'. A 'What' would be indignant, but to me it sounds more bewildered, as in 'Rock. I've got to feed the damn things. How did I get into this mess' + "You wanna bet? + Talking of bets, do I get to go horse racing? Talking of betting, do I get to go horse racing? (He says something else here but I dunno what) Nope definitely 'bets' and not betting. The thing you can hardly hear is 'Y'know, with your Mum' as in the Queen Mother whose love, and ownership, of racing horses is well know. But there's some more muffled stuff after he says he lost a lot of money on horse racing. | You can da | you can da You can da You can ji Yep, 'course it is. Adam, are you taking notes? -Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 03:35:21 +0200 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 Trust me, you gotta see it! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 28 Mar 2000 20:55:42 -0500 David A wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 > > Trust me, you gotta see it! :) Very, very confusing. After the brass fusion thing, I guess there are other fusion territories to be explored! ==================================================== Jerry Quartley.....................jrq@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 28 Mar 2000 19:31:50 PST >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 > >Trust me, you gotta see it! :) > What... the hell... is this? The guy says it's from a Arista, I'd like to see proof of that. Does Arista even release stuff in Europe? I have no idea myself. I've seen wierder stuff to be sure, but this thing is pretty wierd. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 28 Mar 2000 19:49:45 -0800 (PST) It just screams stupid bootleg. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 28 Mar 2000 20:00:01 -0800 > What... > > the hell... > > is this? > > The guy says it's from a Arista, I'd like to see proof of that. Does Arista > even release stuff in Europe? I have no idea myself. > > I've seen wierder stuff to be sure, but this thing is pretty wierd. If you lok at the rest of his auctions they all sem tobe bootlegs comps of one sort or another.... -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (klf) re: oh you gotta see this Date: 28 Mar 2000 20:21:00 -0800 (PST) I wonder if they're just silver CD-R's that just seem like pressed CDs. I got some VCD's form malaysia that claimed to be pressed, but they were just silver CD-r's. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) Metaluna Date: 28 Mar 2000 21:02:35 +0200 At 15:44 27.03.00 +0100, Craig wrote: >> It could be from a movie called ' This Island Earth' from 1955. [...] >I would be interested in knowing if the sample does come from anything else >though, such as a Science Fiction Theatre version of the film, rather than the >original. I saw a movie called "Mystery Sience Theater 2000", a movie based on a TV comedy series that makes fun of old sience fiction movies. There are some freaks (one human, one robot and one alien if I remember correctly) caught in a bone-shaped spaceship in orbit around earth, and they are being forced to watch bad science fiction movies by a mad professor. In this particular movie they have to watch "This Island Earth". I saw it in German, but I don't remember anything remotely similar to the sample used, even though I listen closely after I heard the word Metaluna the first time. Anyway, MST2000 is absolutely hilarious and well worth watching. :) erik --------------------------------------------- Erik.Gander@stud.uni-hannover.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Anniss" Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond interview on Aamzon.co.uk Date: 19 Mar 2000 11:47:17 +0000 Hello, There's an interesting (ish) interview with Bill on Amazon.co.uk at the moment. It talks about the book, Echo and the Bunnymen and some KLF / Jams related stuff. I think it's in the 'Entertainment' books section, though last time I looked it was advertised on the Books index. Matt Beats & Breaks. quality dance music online. www.beatsandbreaks.co.uk email: matt@beatsandbreaks.co.uk click for enlightenment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) re: oh you gotta see this Date: 28 Mar 2000 20:29:40 PST > >I wonder if they're just silver CD-R's that just seem like pressed CDs. I >got some VCD's form malaysia that claimed to be pressed, but they were >just silver CD-r's. Not only that but the picture looks more like a thumbnail for a graphics program that makes CD covers that an actual scan. It doesn't look like a scan at all actually, meaning that this guy probably made the things, or at least had some part in it. If you are going to make any decent quantity of CDs, pressing them is still way cheaper, and way way way faster than using CDRs. Of course we have no idea how many copis they made of this thing. I can't imagine many people on this list actually wanting one of these, and we are about as colector oriented as it gets. Chad Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Metaluna Date: 28 Mar 2000 20:33:13 PST Anyway, MST2000 is absolutely hilarious and well worth >watching. > >:) >erik Then you would be thrilled to know that in the US MST3K was a TV show than ran for several years spoofing Godzilla, Gamera, and later a few non-sci fi movies that were realy realy bad. Why they actually made a theatrical release is beyond me, except maybe as some sort of finale to the TV series. Yes it's worth watching. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Bill Drummond interview on Aamzon.co.uk Date: 29 Mar 2000 01:19:02 EST > There's an interesting (ish) interview with Bill on Amazon.co.uk at the > moment. It talks about the book, Echo and the Bunnymen and some KLF / Jams > related stuff. I think it's in the 'Entertainment' books section, though > last time I looked it was advertised on the Books index. This reminds me... didn't someone on the list say he interviewed Drummond for 45? What was this for? I seem to recall it being for Amazon and some magazine but I can't recall. This person said he'd post the interview, or perhaps an uncut version after it's publication... -paul Currently in rotation: Koyaanisqatsi/Powaqqatsi - Phillip Glass, FatBoy Slim / Normal Cook Collection, Reduction - Art of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:55:34 CEST This isn't onyl hilarious, it's more than that! - Did you see a 'Compact Disc' logo on the disc? NO. Don't fall in on that!! DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) 1987 on ebay.de Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:07:00 CEST Hi! Someone claims to sell the original 1987 for a couple of bucks on ebay germany... so far it's about $10 or something! http://www.ebay.de/servlet/auctiondetaildConnector?page=eineAuktion&auktionsID=42789058 Might be interesting for some of you! DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 on ebay.de Date: 29 Mar 2000 02:29:40 EST > Someone claims to sell the original 1987 for a couple of bucks on ebay > germany... so far it's about $10 or something! > > http://www.ebay.de/servlet/auctiondetaildConnector?page=eineAuktion& > auktionsID=42789058 With the recent bootleg surfacing... buyer beware! Currently in rotation: Koyaanisqatsi/Powaqqatsi - Phillip Glass, FatBoy Slim / Normal Cook Collection, Reduction - Art of Noise # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (klf) Bill Drummond interview on Aamzon.co.uk Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:23:47 +0100 >There's an interesting (ish) interview with Bill on Amazon.co.uk at the >moment. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/30169/026-5475252-9037003 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five (long) Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:28:36 +0200 This is very tricky in places. I definitely need help with this. As before '|' remains the same, '-' deletion, '+' addition. Cheers, -Andy | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | ------------------------------------ | [ VERY TRICKY ONE THIS !! ] | | ? Live and ? This is a sample which sounds something like "The JB's, live and fast". The sample list says "JB's loud and proud" but that doesn't sound right to me. - I was out there a-shopping a one morning in May - Getting lot of provisions for them nuclear days - Apples, oranges, mangos and pears - Fresh from the store ? - I was pushing my cart from the detergent to cheeze + I was out doing shopping one morning in May + Getting all the provisions for that nuclear day + Apples, oranges, mangoes and pears + Fresh from the store, with no amount of cares + I was pushing my trolley from cold turkey to cheese "Cold" is the only word I can think of that fits with turkey, plus it gives a double meaning - heroin withdrawal/sandwich filling. To be honest it sounds like "Kentucky to cheese", but what does that mean in a supermarket, or anywhere else. - When I first saw the man with the antler ears + When I first saw the man with antler ears | I tried to ignore but his gaze held my eyes | When he told me the truth about the basket of lies Don't Take Five (Take what you want) I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | So I told him some more about me and Rock | How we formed a band just around the block - How we'd searched for years for this African tribe - I'd been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines Is it really "tribe"? I think I hear "drummer", which doesn't make much sense, except.... I think its: + How we'd searched for years for this African drummer + Who'd been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines Aha, clues. 'Solomon's Mines' is a book by Rider Haggard from 1885, with a film of the same name from 1950 and again in 1985. The basic plot is that a man goes missing in the jungle - some friends go off to find him, and when they finally do they also find a cave of jewels/treasure. | From the way he was dressed with his shield and spears | He was obviously a man with very few fears | So I asked him to join us in our quest for our Grail - Leave the fight out behind with the unopened mail + Leave the bike out/viscount/??? behind with the unopened mail It ain't "fight out" but I can't make it out | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | We set the date for the very next day | We cashed our giros and we're on our way | The JAMS don't mess and the JAMS don't sway - We told Mandy Smith she could stop or say - So we crossed the Sahara in a runaway ? - In a Bedowin tribe just out on parole + We told Mandy Smith she could stop or stay + So we crossed the Sahara in a runner we stole + From a Bedouin tribe just out on parole | Gadaffi said hi so we blew his mind - When we started to leave with some of solomon's mines - ? seek ... we sought ? <<< + When we sold him the secret of Solomon's mines | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) | Say beat | Say beat | Say beat | Say beat | Say beat | Say beat | Say | Say beat | Say beat | Say | Beat | Say I couldn't swear that it's 'say beat'. Apparently it samples from a track called 'Same Beat', so perhaps is "Same" and not "Say". -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics - updated, (long) Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:16:17 +1200 Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > I did a job on the lyrics to 'The Queen and I'. I think they're > pretty much correct now. I completely agree with all your changes, except minor one below I'm surprised that those mistakes were in the file, I thought we would have made a better job of it when Jamm!n and I compiled the lyrics file in 94. Maybe this was someone else lyrics file? (dinae re-invent the wheel son) The metaluna sample quoted recently that was from my version. "don't know what movie but I'd love to see it" were my words. Though I do remember that Jamm!n insisted on leaving some things in I was sure was wrong, particularly in "The Porpoise Song" as well so maybe that was his mistakes not mine! :-) I can send my copy of the samples file to anyone, but I don't have the lyrics file at the moment. I doubt the "lyrics" for Magnificent or Fuck the Millenium have been added to the lyrics file. And the samples certainly haven't. > + While Healey cut his thrust Healey cut his thirst (as in drinking) -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Nusbaum" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill Drummond interview on Aamzon.co.uk Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:08:43 -0500 > This reminds me... didn't someone on the list say he interviewed Drummond for > 45? What was this for? I seem to recall it being for Amazon and some > magazine but I can't recall. This person said he'd post the interview, or > perhaps an uncut version after it's publication... > There is a review and interview with Bill D. in this months MOJO magazine (Led Zeppelin cover). Some good current pictures as well. Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Moore Subject: RE: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:08:00 -0700 I also really doubt Arista would have licenced the 2K stuff in 1998. >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 >Trust me, you gotta see it! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mattias Frid" Subject: RE: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:31:32 +0200 "7 new exclusive bonus tracks"?! What's so new and exclusive about them? =) Seems to me they're just taken off some of the standard issue cd singles... Gotta hand it to the manufacturers though, they have been creative with the sleeve and colors =) I love bad taste, thus I want this! //Frid # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mr christopher david gilmour Subject: (klf) re: (KLF) don't take fiev lyrics Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:22:40 +0100 'leave a fiver behind with the unopened mail' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) KLF Liberation Front update Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:14:57 +0100 >Please, do not e-mail me asking for these mpegs. ok, what I meant to say was that I wouldn't like to get houndreds of requests for making a copy of these mpegs. However, if you're like in Australia, USA, China or even Zair and you have a *working* cdburner and would be willing to make copies for other people in your area then sure - get in touch with me. I want these mpegs spread all over the globe so that Sasha in Novosybirsk or Umbeke in Congo will have a chance to experience KLF videos. E-Nuff said. Dj Dominion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) Bang To Trancentral Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:14:34 +0200 this was written by Justified: >-notice the BBC omnibus vid....they re in a record store... actually, that bit on the begining of Omnibus takes place in Trancentral. Jimmy's playing Todd Terry "Bang To The Batmobile" 12" saying it's the current hip groove or sth. Now, my question is this: Has anybody got that footage in it's entire form? I guess it was taken from SnubTV or sth. It would be extremely interesting to see B&J showing how to make a dance record. And it would surely expand my mpeg project. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) KLF Liberation Front - update Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:15:06 +0200 All right ppl, I see a first branch of my mpegs reached Adam Hauner and he was kind enough to put them up on his server. Anyways, I felt I'd comment on them: > 43270556 The KLF - 3 A.M. Eternal (Embankment Version).mpeg This is taken from a 3-from-1 KLF feature on MTV. actually, I have just encoded a better looking/sounding version of this clip, so hold your horses on that one... > 46806676 The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version).mpeg not from me... > 68509196 The KLF - Rites Of Mu (MTV '92 Version).mpeg just encoded a better version of this as well. The new one has better sound and is encoded in 2000 rather then 1200kbps. > 315683530 The KLF - Stadium House (The Trilogy).mpeg > 243932570 The KLF - This Is Not What The KLF Is About.mpeg > 22482908 Timelords - Doctorin' The Tardis.mpeg As far as I remember, this one is taken from Lars' collection, which I included on a cd for Adam just in case he haven't seen it before. New improved version is on the way. > 38703896 Timewhores - Doctorin The Sheriff.mpeg (good Tardis parody) This is a parody of "Doctorin The Tardis" video I did earlier this year. The footage is taken from some old 70s porn movie. In it, a horny sheriff (played by the notorious porn "star" - Ron Jeremy) drives around in a Ford Galaxy 500 (or sth similar). It all looks like the Timelords video, except he's chasing some hookers, not Daleks. Anyway, I just thought it would be hillarious to add "Doctorin The Tardis" music to these pictures... > 57690976 The KLF - WTIL (Power Edit).mpeg (fan clip) and this one was created when I just had too much time. This "video" is made of some scanned KLF pictures I had sitting on my harddrive. There is closed-captioning included, so you can rap along with Mc Bello. All was done with good, old Adobe Premiere. Enjoy. Besides that, much much more to come: 01. 2K - Fuck The Millennium (promo clip) [57MB] 02. Disco 2000 - Uptight [53MB] 03. The Jams - It's Grim Up North [59MB] 04. KLF vs ENT - 3am Eternal (Brits 92) [43MB] 05. KLF - 3am Eternal (Embankment Version) [48MB] (this is the new/improved version taken from 1st gen copy) 06. KLF - America What Time Is Love [70MB] 07. KLF - Justified And Ancient [59MB] (from 1st gen tape) 08. KLF - Kylie Said To Jason [65MB] 09. KLF - What Time Is Love (Cornfields Version) [63MB] 10. KLF - What Time Is Love (Pure Trance) [81MB] (again taken from 1st gen tape) 11. KLF - Doctorin The Tardis [35MB] (improved version) 12. White Room promo clip [29MB] 13. White Room film [650MB] (taken from 1st gen tape - astonishing quality!) 14. How To Have A No.1 report [92MB] 15. K-Foundation clip [13MB] 16. Mediashow KLF interview [16MB] 17. Rapido KLF interview [86MB] 18. SnubTV KLF interview [98MB] 19. Tammy Wynette interview [9MB] 20. The Jams - It's Grim Up North (TOTP) [48MB] 21. The KLF - What Time Is Love (TOTP1) [36MB] 22. 2K - Barbican Gig (Mtv Broadcast) [57MB] 23. The Rites Of Mu (Mtv Version) [102MB] - improved picture & sound and these are being encoded at the moment: Rites Of Mu (Version 1) Stadium House (The Trilogy) - improved (better sound quality) Mediashow Drummond interview 2K Barbican Gig (camcoder footage) 30min Omnibus K-Foundation Documentary 50min Justified And Ancient (TOTP) all of this coming soon to Adam Hauner's server and possibly other places. And if anybody else would like to host these (and additional) mpegs, let me know. and one more thing: I've posted these links before, but the server was down for a few days, so please try again: http://rezist.com/djd/land_of_mu1.jpg to 4 respectively http://rezist.com/djd/snubtv.mp3 http://rezist.com/djd/trancentral.jpg http://rezist.com/djd/wrprew.mpg hopefully, it will work now... djd greetz to Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brent Moore Subject: RE: (klf) KLF Liberation Front - update Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:34:59 -0700 Four-Oh-Four >and one more thing: >I've posted these links before, but the server was down for a few days, >so please try again: >http://rezist.com/djd/land_of_mu1.jpg to 4 respectively >http://rezist.com/djd/snubtv.mp3 >http://rezist.com/djd/trancentral.jpg >http://rezist.com/djd/wrprew.mpg >hopefully, it will work now... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Liberation Front update Date: 29 Mar 2000 18:53:04 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Marek Mierzejewski wrote: > >Please, do not e-mail me asking for these mpegs. > ok, what I meant to say was that I wouldn't like to get houndreds of > requests for making a copy of these mpegs. > However, if you're like in Australia, USA, China or even Zair > and you have a *working* cdburner and would be willing > to make copies for other people in your area then sure - > get in touch with me. I want these mpegs spread all over > the globe so that Sasha in Novosybirsk or Umbeke in Congo will > have a chance to experience KLF videos. ... and if you have fast line, just wait, because all of videos will be available on-line ASAP (next update in half of April maybe). -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:49:25 -0600 That has to be on of the worst bootlegs that I've ever seen. The artwork is complete amateur crap. I guess they figured sex sells. >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 > "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) DJD wanted... Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:00:37 GMT > >I've posted these links before, but the server was down for a few days, > >so please try again: > > >http://rezist.com/djd/land_of_mu1.jpg to 4 respectively > >http://rezist.com/djd/snubtv.mp3 > >http://rezist.com/djd/trancentral.jpg > >http://rezist.com/djd/wrprew.mpg > > >hopefully, it will work now... No, it doesn't! I tried these links a hundred times now but it never worked! :( What shall I do? Marek, I need your help! KADE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kade Angus" Subject: RE: (klf) Oh, You Gotta See This! Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:03:05 GMT >That has to be on of the worst bootlegs that I've ever seen. The artwork >is >complete amateur crap. I guess they figured sex sells. > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 > > Putting Jimmy and Bill in such a background is a kind of blasphemy, isn't it?!? ;) Shame on the person bidding for it! KADE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:40:04 +0100 Apologies if I'm duplicating anyone someone's already said, but it's hard to keep track of all the snatches of lyrics floating about. My additions/corrections, anyway: The Queen And I The Abba sample after the Healey line (and BTW Denis Healey's main governmental role was as the Chancellor of the Exchequer) should have "You can jive" not "You can dance" in, that was blotted out. I'd go along with "Met Good Queen Bess" from the various alternatives. Then later you've got "Feel the beat on the tambourine oh yeah". Later you've got "You can da", that should be followed by "You can ji" not another "You can da". Don't Take Five I agree with Andrew Walker's amendments, though I'm convinced there's a line that goes "When he told me the truth about the bachelor lies" - but "basket of lies" makes much more sense. It's definitely "African tribe", I think there's a backing vocal that's obscuring it and making it sound like "drummer". Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees | Here we come | crawling out of the mud - from chaos primevil to the barnyard sun - drannge our ? cells from ? + from chaos primeval to the burned out sun + dragging our mad selves from one end of time | with nothing to declare but some half written rhymes - we're happy and dire, confused and depressed + we're happy and tired, confused and depressed | the songs that we sing are the songs of the blessed - with flowers to lick - and blood on out hands - who or what I'll help you understand + with flowers to pick + and blood on our hands + who or what'll help you understand - what's going on? - we're not the monkeys - we don't even like the monkeys - I don't think I ever liked the monkeys + what? what, what's going on? + we're not the Monkees + don't even like the Monkees + don't think I ever liked the Monkees The rest of this track seems fine. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:03:53 -0800 (PST) > I agree with Andrew Walker's amendments, though I'm convinced there's a line that goes "When he told me the truth about the bachelor > lies" - but "basket of lies" makes much more sense. It's definitely "African tribe", I think there's a backing vocal that's > obscuring it and making it sound like "drummer". I've always thought the line wa "...told me the truth about the bastard that lies" jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: Re: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five (long) Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:24:57 +0100 > | ? Live and ? > > This is a sample which sounds something like > "The JB's, live and fast". The sample list > says "JB's loud and proud" but that doesn't > sound right to me. No nor me... I'm really not sure, but to me it sounds like something along the lines of "? take these five, and fast" > - I was pushing my cart from the detergent to cheeze > + I was pushing my trolley from cold turkey to cheese I'm pretty convinced that this *is* 'detergent to cheese'. > - How we'd searched for years for this African tribe > - I'd been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines > > Is it really "tribe"? I think I hear "drummer", which > doesn't make much sense, except.... I think its: Not easy, but I make it: How we'd searched for years for this African drum And been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines > | So I asked him to join us in our quest for our Grail > - Leave the fight out behind with the unopened mail > + Leave the bike out/viscount/??? behind with the unopened mail Christ knows. that's the best I can do. Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ: 22014792 GROW MORE WEED # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Holly M. Laux" Subject: (klf) lyrics Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:29:26 -0600 > | So I asked him to join us in our quest for our Grail > - Leave the fight out behind with the unopened mail > + Leave the bike out/viscount/??? behind with the unopened mail he could fan our behinds with our unopened mail or somthin like that --kris Curiosity is one of the most permanent and certain characteristics of a vigorous intellect. -- Samuel Johnson H o l l y M. L a u x O ' H i g g i n s * K r i s t o p h e r E. O ' H i g g i n s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Liberation Front - update Date: 29 Mar 2000 18:52:32 EST > > 46806676 The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version).mpeg > not from me... What's the deal on this video? Is it in black and white or color? This one (which has been floating the net for a while) is bw, so it the version on my copy of Complete Collection. However on that one, I seem to recall it struggling to get back into color near the end. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:40:44 +0100 > I've always thought the line wa > > "...told me the truth about the bastard that lies" Oh yes, listening to it again, I could well believe it is as above. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five (long) Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:40:43 +0100 > > Is it really "tribe"? I think I hear "drummer", which > > doesn't make much sense, except.... I think its: > > Not easy, but I make it: > > How we'd searched for years for this African drum > And been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines I'm sorry, I just don't buy this drum lark. All the other pairs of lines in the "verse" consist of (more or less) rhyming pairs - drum just doesn't fit in. Having said that, the backing vocal doesn't seem to be singing the same word as the lead vocal, unlike the similar juxtaposition of the two a couple of lines later where they both say "fears" together. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Don't take Five Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:34:21 +0100 > | Gadaffi said hi so we blew his mind > + When we sold him the secret of Solomon's mines I'm not convinced it's "secret of" how about "When we sold him the sequence on Solomon's mines"? Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: (klf) Lyrics roundup..."The Queen and I" Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:48:40 +0200 Hi KLF'ers Adam mailed me asking to summarize the results so far. I'll start with 'The Queen and I', where I think everyone is pretty much in agreement now, apart from the Dennis Healey line. I thought it sounded like 'Healey cut his thrust'. After teetering in 'crust'-land for a while, as in 'cutting a pie crust', I'm veering towards 'thirst' as in 'having a drink at the bar' (thanks Stuey). Try pronouncing 'thirst' with a Clydeside accent, i.e. with a 'i' that sounds almost like 'uuh' and a rolled 'r' and you can see that it fits. Is 'cutting a thirst' a known expression in the British Isles (probably Scotland, if anywhere)? I've heard of 'slating/slaking a thirst', and 'quenching a thirst' but 'cut'? Hmmm. Anyway, here's the latest version, with 'thirst' from Stuart Young, and a couple more Abba sample corrections from Simon Coward. One word is till bothering me. Here I've written 'feel the beat *of* the tambourine'. Simon said 'on' instead of 'of', but I think I hear 'from'. Anybody with a definitive set of ABBA lyrics to confirm this trivial point once and for all? If I've missed anybody in the credits then let me know. Its hard to keep up! I'll summarize 'Don't Take Five' in another mail later today or tomorrow some time. -Andy The Queen And I --------------- # Corrected and commented version (3/2000)by: # Andy Walker # Michael Blumenthal # Twilight Isotope # Stuart Young # Simon Coward You can dance We can dance Having the time of your lives See that girl Watch that scene Diggin the dancing queen Every time I saw TV Or I read the newspaper There were all these stories About Stevie and the Raper The Zircon connection (1) And the Peter Wright case (2) The looney left council With their budget in disgrace (3) I asked myself "What am I to believe?" When their cancer is a killer John Player wins the league (4) With masters of the universe And designer death They all keep talking About Princess Di's dress "Yes, it's a very nice dress" When I was younger, I knew just who to hate From the teachers in our classroom To the leaders of our state I'm registered to vote This pleasant land's free (5) So I took the intercity For democracy and me I knocked at the door But they didnae let me in (6) So I kicked it down And I walked right in She was standing at the bar While Healey cut his thirst Question time. "Mine Came First!" Dancing queen Dancing queen Oh yeah You can jive See that girl Dancing queen I just want to know Who's in control Is it you or god Or the bloke down the dole Her answers were shite But I didnae give up so I went to the lords (7) but they didnae wake up so I went to the palace met good queen 'Bess she asked me to dance said she'd like a rest Boy D'll be king "I'll abdicate the throne Here's the keys to the castle. You're in control" Dancing queen Young and sweet Only seventeen "Wot about Charles?" "I like Charles" Dancing queen Feel the beat of the tambourine oh yeah "You know the corgis? (8) Rock, I've got to feed them" Having the time of her life "D'you wanna bet? Talking of bets, do I get to go horse racing? Y'know, with your mum? I lost a lot of money once on horse racing" "Have you ever met ABBA?" "I'd love to meet ABBA" "They used to be one of my favorite groups" God save the Queen! You can da You can ji Having the time of her life See that girl Dancing queen God save the Queen. Get pissed. Destroy! Comments: (1) In 1986 journalist Duncan Campbell's report on the Zircon spy satellite was banned, his house was raided and Special Branch raided the BBC's Scottish offices to seize films and documents connected with the programme. Fits nicely with Peter Wright and was fairly topical at the time. (2) Should definitely be Peter Wright - one time director of the UK secret service MI5, his autobiography (published in 1987) caused a huge stir in the UK because it revealed information covered by the Official Secrets Act. I believe it was banned in the UK, but was available in Australia. Caused a very big hoo-haa ay the time. (3) Certain Labour City Councils, notably Liverpool and the Greater London Council, had very left wing/socialist sympathies, much more so than the central Labour Party itself, and the Thatcher government did everything in their power to crush there credibility (and dissolved the GLC). (4) John Player being a cigarette manufacturer and major sponsor of UK sporting events, including a one-day cricket league if I remember correctly. (5) 'England's green and pleasant land' from William Blake's poem/hymn 'Jerusalem' - which also forms the basis for 'Jerusalem On The Moors' on JAMS 28CD. (6) Usual transcription of Scots is 'didnae' (7) As in the House of Lords. The Lords are renowned for dozing in their seats rather that doing any real political work. (8) Referring to the Queen's corgi dogs. -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: (klf) Important - Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:48:13 +1200 Having looked at both Lazlos' xmission FTP site: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/l/lazlo/music/klf/lyrics-liners/ and Adam Hauner's new lyrics FTP site: ftp://klf:KLFlifr@io.pinknet.cz/texts where both of them have lyrics in separate files. I can spot that these are both out of date. Jamm!n made many many corrections to these files in 94-95, and assembled it in to one file. I think Jamm!n put in consistent formatting and keys for whether it was Drummond or rappers or backing singers as well. The one on Mancentral is the most upto date version. If its up that is. Culf? However I do reckon that Adam Hauner should take responsibility for updating the lyrics file, and should be encouraged in his efforts to provide a one stop shop of KLF files. And also its a great idea to add explanations about the lyrics at the bottom. Suggest you post a lyric a day to the list for corrections/suggestions on explanations. sorry my memory is vague. I'll have a look at work and see if I have the lyrics file there (on the zip disc I brought from the UK). cheers, -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) America WTIL vid... Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:50:02 +0100 > > 46806676 The KLF - America WTIL (Euro Version).mpeg > not from me... >>What's the deal on this video? i think it's taken from Dutton's tape...hence quality... >>Is it in black and white or color? This one (which has been floating the >>net for a while) is bw, so it the version on my copy of Complete >>Collection. However on that one, I seem to recall it struggling to get >>back into color near the end. yep, this is the effect of copying, from tape to tape to tape and then onto the net i expect... on the promo vid itself, the colour is present all the way thru i think...however, i might be wrong...the first part of the vid is where they're all on the boat in a kinda storm so everything seems kinda grey anyways...but you are right, at the end the things that show colour the most (such as the fire) appear very bright... i shall dig out my copy tonight & update tomorrow ! toodlepip saint-samps The Kause - a twisted critter, hunts alone, preying on the souless along the open plains of the virtual world... - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics roundup..."The Queen and I" Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:57:13 +0200 > Is it you or god > Or the bloke down the dole I always thought it was 'on the dole' , an english expression for being unemployed - Thomas -------------------- e-mail: cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com web: http://skynet.person.dk - UPDATED! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Bang To Trancentral Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:58:57 +1200 I saw the show when it was aired (1989), but no I don't have it on tape and its not on the Dutton compilation video (proving that Dutton wasn't hip? - all he recorded was TOTP!) It was indeed Snub TV and it was a great piece, all about how to make a dance record. Footage of them putting the Pet Shop Boys Disco LP on the turntable, sampling beats and then playing them back. A real sampling how to. I'm sure they said "we get all our beats of this" (Disco). I remember it was introduced as the KLF have had a huge hit on the dancefloors of Italy, and they are going into their studio to record a follow up. Snub left them to it, and returned three hours later, and they had a finished track. I remember it was done in a cynical "it's so easy to make a throwaway record that the Italians will like" kinda way. cheers, Stuey Marek Mierzejewski wrote: > Has anybody got that footage in it's entire form? I guess it > was taken from SnubTV or sth. It would be extremely interesting > to see B&J showing how to make a dance record. And it would > surely expand my mpeg project. -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Important - Lyrics Date: 31 Mar 2000 00:05:08 +1200 Whoops, I made a mistake in my last message. Stuey & Michelle wrote: > Jamm!n made many many corrections to > these files in 94-95, and assembled it in to one file. That should read Jamm!n and I. We actually had arguments about some of the scottishisms for some songs but he used his versions. You'll see what I mean when you get around to The Porpoise Song. cheers Stuey -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:21:43 +0100 Simon Coward wrote: > Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees > > - we're happy and dire, confused and depressed > + we're happy and tired, confused and depressed There's no "d" from what I can hear. I'd always thought "dire", if it's "tired" (which makes more sense) Bill sings it very sloppily. Still sounds more like "dire" to me, but I'd accept "tire" as shorthand for "tired" > + don't even like the Monkees > + don't think I ever liked the Monkees Have I ever liked the Monkees?? (a rhetorical question, maybe?) But I know nothing as I always thought it was "I've never liked the Monkees" :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:15:37 +0100 > > I've always thought the line wa > > > > "...told me the truth about the bastard that lies" > > Oh yes, listening to it again, I could well believe it is as above. I could now be convinced of the same also :) I'd always heard it as "the passing of time", after reading this it sounds like "passing of lies" or "bastard who lies". I guess the latter makes more sense. It's hard this, isn't it? :-) Must be an absolute nightmare for those who don't speak native Brit! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: FW: (klf) Lyrics roundup..."The Queen and I" Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:12:40 +0200 > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Helvard [mailto:cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com] > > I always thought it was 'on the dole' , an english expression > for being > unemployed > > - Thomas Hi, 'on the dole' actually implies that you are receiving unemployment benefit. I think this is a play on the idea that the person with most power is either: a) the official handling your unemployment benefit claims at the dole office or b) the person behind the post office counter who actually cashes your dole giro for you Remember that '87 was right in the middle of an all time unemployment high under Thatcher, where beating inflation was the ultimate tory goal, at any cost. That cost usually being people's jobs. So I've never been in any doubt it's the 'bloke down the dole'. Note also, that the 'dole' comes in the form of a giro, as in 'why did you throw away your giro?', and 'we opened up our giros and we threw them away'. -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:27:43 +0100 Well I'll give my thoughts on this one too... I've always been confused about the lyrics for this one and never really known what to sing hehe :} > "The JB's, live and fast". The sample list Sounds quite possible... Let's take these live and fast Let's take B 5 and fast I think JBs sounds most likely tho... But who are the JBs? > + I was out doing shopping one morning in May Ah ok then :) > + Getting all the provisions for that nuclear day > + Apples, oranges, mangoes and pears Yup > + Fresh from the store, with no amount of cares Hmm sounds ok... I dunno what he says > + I was pushing my trolley from cold turkey to cheese I always used to think it said "the turkey to cheese" but on listening now it sounds like detergent... > + When I first saw the man with antler ears > | I tried to ignore but his gaze held my eyes Yup > | When he told me the truth about the basket of lies Ahh ok then...Like, shopping basket? I never knew what he said here.. Sounds kinda like "the passenger lies" but that doesn't make much sense... > > Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > > | So I told him some more about me and Rock > | How we formed a band just around the block > - How we'd searched for years for this African tribe > - I'd been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines > > Is it really "tribe"? I think I hear "drummer", which I always thought he said tribe... But the background sound does sound more like drummer than tribe... But also could just be a shout... Also, don't they talk about tribes later on in this song? > | From the way he was dressed with his shield and spears > | He was obviously a man with very few fears > | So I asked him to join us in our quest for our Grail > - Leave the fight out behind with the unopened mail > + Leave the bike out/viscount/??? behind with the unopened mail > > It ain't "fight out" but I can't make it out Will you mind out behind (our behinds?) with the unopened mail? Maybe "nails"? > > | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) Anyone know what this is actually supposed to mean? Hehe ... ?? ?? 0 - Portsmouth 1 Bradford City 0 - Hull City 0 Something something?? 1 - Something Town 2 Something something 1 - ?? ?? ? Huddersfield Town 2 - Stoke City 2 Hull City 1 - Something City 1?? I know very little about football so those are just guesses... And I got hull city down twice so I dunno.. (Anyone remember "The secret life of machines".. Channel 4? Hehe) > | We set the date for the very next day > | We cashed our giros and we're on our way > | The JAMS don't mess and the JAMS don't sway > + We told Mandy Smith she could stop or stay Yup > + So we crossed the Sahara in a runner we stole Yep... But what's a runner? :} > + From a Bedouin tribe just out on parole > | Gadaffi said hi so we blew his mind > - When we started to leave with some of solomon's mines Hahaha that's funny hehe > + When we sold him the secret of Solomon's mines Yup.. Sounds more like "secrets" to me tho > > | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > > | Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > | I said Don't Take Five (Take what you want) > Yup yup > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say > | Say beat > | Say beat > | Say > | Beat > | Say > > I couldn't swear that it's 'say beat'. Apparently it samples > from a track called 'Same Beat', so perhaps is "Same" and not > "Say". Hmm I never knew what it said either.. Sounds a little more like Say than Same to me tho.. Maybe "say me"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Important - Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 16:37:20 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Stuey & Michelle wrote: > Having looked at both Lazlos' xmission FTP site: > ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/users/l/lazlo/music/klf/lyrics-liners/ Yes, Lazlo's FTP is one of source (major source), but I hope we can do it a little better and more systematic... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "han do jin" Subject: (klf) re: don't take five Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:46:48 -0000 >>How we'd searched for years for this African drum >>And been lost with the diamonds down Solomon's mines >I'm sorry, I just don't buy this drum lark. me neither. i always thought "this african tribe" referred to the dogon of mali, out of the 'cosmic trigger' by RAW and robert temple's 'sirius mystery' book. tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF Liberation Front - update Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:14:00 PST It's color, it's just really crappy sorta shot on cheap film, taped of the BBC in PAL, and converted to MPEG on a less than perfect set-up sorta color. Kinda like my 13 year old Max Headroom episodes taped of NBC in EP. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andyp@globalnet.co.uk Subject: (klf) Omnibus TV episode Date: 30 Mar 2000 16:55:49 +0100 Hi, Just to repeat my message of a week ago in case any of you missed it. I am selling a very good quality copy of the OMNIBUS programme that featured on The KLF. Lots of interviews with Bill and Jimmy, taking you on a journey from making the follow-up to Doctorin' The Tardis, right through to the release of The Magnificent. Email me for further details. Many thanks, Andy Global WebMail - Delivered by the best value ISP on the planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Don't take Five Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:11:53 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: 30 March 2000 11:34 > > > | Gadaffi said hi so we blew his mind > > + When we sold him the secret of Solomon's mines > > I'm not convinced it's "secret of" how about "When we sold him the sequence on Solomon's mines"? "secrets of" is how it sounds to me. Also, I'd say it is 100% definately "African tribe" but with a chant by the backing singer (part of a sequence of chants) that obscures it a little. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five (long) Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:25:06 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: 29 March 2000 23:24 > > - I was pushing my cart from the detergent to cheeze > > + I was pushing my trolley from cold turkey to cheese > > I'm pretty convinced that this *is* 'detergent to cheese'. Yeah, on the five millionth play my answers are: detergent - I'm SURE of this one African tribe (obscured by a chant, just listen to the backing singer in the preceding bars) - fairly sure passing of lies - not at all sure :) but am getting surer by the replay Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Lyrics Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:29:57 EST Not really following this as I have too much on my plate at the moment, but as a suggestion: any thoughts on incorporating the samples to this? Noting which lyrics are from samples and listing all known samples used in each track? Just a thought.... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Boyd" Subject: Re: (klf) Today's lyric update - Don't take Five Date: 30 Mar 2000 16:36:53 EST My quickie American interpretation of the brogue: > > | From the way he was dressed with his shield and spears > > | He was obviously a man with very few fears > > | So I asked him to join us in our quest for our Grail > > - Leave the fight out behind with the unopened mail > > + Leave the bike out/viscount/??? behind with the unopened mail > > > > It ain't "fight out" but I can't make it out > >Will you mind out behind (our behinds?) with the unopened mail? >Maybe "nails"? I always thought it was "Leave the faint heart behind with the unopened mail." Like, don't be faint-hearted, and don't take the time to read your mail, just go on the quest. *shrug* --Quahogs-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) ebay - The KLF White Room CD 7-trk bonus adult/sexy! Date: 30 Mar 2000 18:15:04 +0100 If as seems absolutely certain the above-mentioned item http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295179357 ) is not the official Arista release it claims to be (but rather a very _tacky_ pirated** release), oughtn't it be reported to ebay? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fair trading of rare material, but I make a habit of reporting people to ebay where they're selling CDRs, being dishonest, or basically making a buck at the expense of collectors, artists or both. Whaddya think? ** bootleg = live, deleted or unissued material issued to and traded amongst collectors (OK to me, unofficially sanctioned by many artists, hated by a few others) counterfeit = a direct copy of another release, including artwork, usually intended to con somebody. Generally not good, but can be collectable/useful in their own right (e.g. Space CD) pirate = commercially available material used without a licence, often in very tacky packaging. Copyright theft, pure and simple. Most of the tracks on the ebay item are obtainable commercially or easily acquired in the secondhand marketplace, therefore I'd say it's pirate. It's certainly not as described! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) ooopppss...america : wtil Date: 31 Mar 2000 08:49:52 +0100 ok, apologies chaps, on the promo vid for this song, the majority is in fact in black & white, well to be precise different shades of grey & white - as they're sailing thru the stormy bit...only at the end when the longship gets torched does the colour start - with the flames....which is kinda un-surprising considering bill&jimmy's fixation with fire. toodlepip neil ps - after rummaging thru the vid selection last night, did anyone else pick up the smile-orange klf vid when it was first out ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) ebay - The KLF White Room CD 7-trk bonus adult/sexy! Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:07:02 +0100 (BST) On Thu 30 Mar, Stephen Kennedy wrote: > Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fair trading of rare material, but I > make a habit of reporting people to ebay where they're selling CDRs, > being dishonest, or basically making a buck at the expense of > collectors, artists or both. Whaddya think? I do agree that this godawful-looking pirate issue should be reported to eBay, not just because of its legal content but also surely they're not allowed to show Playboy pictures freely on their site... It surprises me that it says it's a pressed CD and not a CD-R; which implies there might be a lot of these things floating around! It just occurred to me though, that I wonder if, if an original copy of the "1987" LP was auctioned, whether any Abba fans would complain to eBay about it being "copyright theft, plain and simple" and get it pulled down for exactly the same reasons... Stuart. PS. And before anyone gets me wrong, "1987" is a classic punk LP and that 'White Room' pirate is the lowest common denominator of capitalist hell. So I'm not trying to make a direct comparison. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: Re: (klf) ebay - The KLF White Room CD 7-trk bonus adult/sexy! Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:08:55 +0100 >It just occurred to me though, that I wonder if, if an original copy of >the "1987" LP was auctioned, whether any Abba fans would complain to >eBay about it being "copyright theft, plain and simple" and get it >pulled down for exactly the same reasons... I would have to think about it...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) ebay - The KLF White Room CD 7-trk bonus adult/sexy! Date: 31 Mar 2000 12:11:23 +0100 > On Thu 30 Mar, Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fair trading of rare material, but I > > make a habit of reporting people to ebay where they're selling CDRs, > > being dishonest, or basically making a buck at the expense of > > collectors, artists or both. Whaddya think? Meaning I only report people selling what is almost certainly CDRs at 20 quid a throw, whilst neglecting to mention the very fact (happens a lot), people doing the same with VCDs, and those annoying "don't bid on this auction but have a look at my for sale list on my web site!" types. If someone's selling their original copy of a pressed bootleg CD that's quite different. And I only do it if the listing has somehow wound me up, I can assure you all I have slightly better things to do with my time than being an ebay cop :) > I do agree that this godawful-looking pirate issue should be reported to > eBay, not just because of its legal content but also surely they're > not allowed to show Playboy pictures freely on their site... It That doesn't worry me personally (in fact, quite the opposite - it _annoys_ me that they ban UK customers from viewing the adult section), and yes they do show uncensored Playboy and other adult covers. (Not quite as revealing as this particular shot however!) What worries me is that it is crude, fairly obviously pirate (just wait, someone is going to pop up and reveal it's an official issue from Albania or somewhere! ;-)), and therefore any mug bidding on it believing it to be the genuine must-have collectible it purports to be is going to be a bit disappointed. Then again, that level of gullibility seems so unlikely that maybe the bidders want the tracks and some dodgy porn pictures. I don't know. > surprises me that it says it's a pressed CD and not a CD-R; which > implies there might be a lot of these things floating around! Could be, or could be a silver CDR. > It just occurred to me though, that I wonder if, if an original copy of > the "1987" LP was auctioned, whether any Abba fans would complain to > eBay about it being "copyright theft, plain and simple" and get it > pulled down for exactly the same reasons... > PS. And before anyone gets me wrong, "1987" is a classic punk LP and > that 'White Room' pirate is the lowest common denominator of capitalist > hell. So I'm not trying to make a direct comparison. They might do, but 1987 doesn't really fit my description of a pirated release. Sure, it involved copyright theft but not in a plain and simple fashion, and was from a time when the laws of sampling were not clearly defined. A pedant might complain but I can't see that trading of already-circulating copies of 1987 is doing anyone any harm. Which reminds me, a "near mint" copy of 1987 has appeared on ebay, at a price substantially higher than HMV/Rough Trade were charging, but much less than 1987s usually go for. Has anyone enquired about whether it has the "O9N" typo etc.?? I bet it has ;-) (and if it hasn't you might want to take a look, I don't recall the price but it was quite cheap). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) ebay - The KLF White Room CD 7-trk bonus adult/sexy! Date: 31 Mar 2000 05:16:22 PST >I do agree that this godawful-looking pirate issue should be reported to >eBay, I do not. If this was any other band than KLF, sure. Go for it. Take a tiny litle chip out of the bootlegging juggernaut if it makes you feal good. But KLF made much of thier career by stealing stuff from other people. Also, someone mentioned that this boot is extra bad because it's not even booting rare stuff. While this is true, what is also true is that if it were not for Arista's/Wax Trax licenseing of a small amount of KLF stuff way back when it *would* be rare, since B&J deleated thier catalog and closed down thier company. And it is also true that the US version of the White Room is edited and sucks. This CD might be a boot of the UK White Room. Make no mistake, I think this thing is stupid and I'd like to smack the twit who is selling it. But I have a fealing if the JAMMS saw it they would just laugh. It's not like it's money out of anyones pocket. This CD reminds me of something wierd on ebay that someone mentioned on the list a year ago or so. The CD that time was supossed to be Russian. Am I imagining this? Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: (klf) Dancing Queen Lyrics (fwd) Date: 31 Mar 2000 12:30:29 +0100 (BST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hmmmm Raised my head from behind the parapet to have a quick shufty over the current lyrics discussions. Here's my tuppence on Dancing Queen: "While Healey cut his thrust"???? Don't think so!!!! As Healey was a Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer, this would make much more sense as: "While Healey cut her purse". This would fit as the song refers obliquely to Maggie Thatcher at the Despatch Box in the House of Commons, and Dennis Healey would have been on the Opposition Benches, cutting Maggie's purse. Have a few ideas over some of the other lyrics, but will get back to you. Cheers, NIk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Important - Lyrics Date: 31 Mar 2000 16:20:08 +0100 (BST) > The one on Mancentral is the most upto date version. If its up that is. Culf? Mancentral is in its new location and up and running. klf.life.eu.org Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Important - Lyrics Date: 31 Mar 2000 18:35:33 +0200 (CEST) On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Culf wrote: > > The one on Mancentral is the most upto date version. If its up that is. Culf? > Mancentral is in its new location and up and running. > klf.life.eu.org But: The Mancentral Lyrics Archive is currently being refurbished. The lyrics will return in a vastly improved form in due course. Over and out. -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf