From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: (klf) Drummonds book '45' again/still/etc Date: 01 Jun 2000 17:26:46 +1000 If anyone, especially in Sydney, wants a signed copy, drop me a mail offlist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 11:09:03 +0100 (BST) > Very often independant labels will do just that. Alloting an artist a > certain percentage of the production run, rather than coming up with more > cash for them is often alot easier, and thus is a fairly common practice. > Not at all unheard of. But it's not _the_ production run, it's another run. The pressings are different, or so I understand. Maybe someone with both can confirm if 3AM1 has the "KLF5TOTP" matrix number or not. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 07:11:51 EDT > But it's not _the_ production run, it's another run. The pressings are > different, or so I understand. Maybe someone with both can confirm if > 3AM1 has the "KLF5TOTP" matrix number or not. I'm at work so I don't have my copy available to check, but I can say that my 3AM1 has a small static-y audio flaw very early in the track on both sides, which pretty much proved to me that it was a boot. The whole "given to ENT" bit made me feel better about the track, but that flaw still causes me doubts. Does anyone elses 3AM1 *not* have an audio flaw near the beginning of the track? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:07:04 +0200 At 12:09 2000-06-01 , you wrote: >But it's not _the_ production run, it's another run. The pressings are >different, or so I understand. Maybe someone with both can confirm if >3AM1 has the "KLF5TOTP" matrix number or not. It's a completely different run. 3AM1 is double sided, and KLF5TOTP is only single sided, if I'm not mistaken? /Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 14:19:30 +0100 > from what i was told at the time and have pieced together since, is that it > was pressed and somehow the people responsible managed to get distribution > for it through an independant distributor (pinnacle i think it was) the > records were delivered to the shops(chart shops, not second hand or > specialist dealers) on a friday ready for monday sales, on the saturday > morning the shops were telephoned and told to return all copies to the > distributor (my copy wasnt returned since my girlfreind at the time worked > in one of these shops and claimed that their 2 copies had never been > received), so as to minimise losses i assume that all returned copies were > sold-on to a third party and thus released as a bootleg. [the two sided 3AM ENT 7"] I bought mine in HMV in Central London (about as above-board and major as you can get), which tends to disprove the chart shop/return story. Also, I rarely visit London and if I happened to be there on the one day during which the record was available that was quite amazing. My personal opinion is that this record should be considered a bootleg, with the nice little story attached to it about the possibility of this run being "payment" to ENT (as noted in Lazlo's discog I believe). The story is feasible and like most KLF legends you have to decide whether to believe, but until it is proven I don't see how the record can be regarded as anything other than of dodgy pedigree at best. Still a nice item though!! Someone was trying to flog one on Ebay ("rare as Hen's teeth" his description said) a while back, and my polite email to him about the likelihood that the record was a bootleg fell on deaf ears - fortunately nobody paid his extorniate reserve. I'm sure the record has value but he wanted the value of the original genuine KLF Comms pressing :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 09:08:59 PDT Personnaly I bought my copy of 3AM1 from the greatest records shop in France (i.e. FNAC, like Virgin Megastore). It was of course an "import" but it ran in the official distribution circuit. I think it's very rare for a bootleg but why not? Maybe a mistake... so boot or not? Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Daw" Subject: Re: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 22:13:23 +0100 > I'm at work so I don't have my copy available to check, but I can say that my > 3AM1 has a small static-y audio flaw very early in the track on both sides, > which pretty much proved to me that it was a boot. The whole "given to ENT" > bit made me feel better about the track, but that flaw still causes me doubts. I've got both versions - the KLF original and the bootleg. The bootleg has this static flaw at the start but the original doesn't. The original has slightly better sound quality as well in my opinion. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:15:53 -0400 Date: 02 Jun 2000 10:16:59 -0600 Does anyone know if its possible to find the "This is what the KLF is about vol.1" set? I have vol.2 but I'd love to have both. Also, has anyone ever translated what's in the booklet? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 01 Jun 2000 10:31:43 +0100 A friend of mine has commented on BD`s recent appearance at Bath last Friday night. Unfortunately he only caught a few minutes of Bill's 'talk', which seemed to go down well with the assembled weirdos and worshippers. Five copies of the 12" '45' were lodged in the jazz-net-cafe within the Brasserie for folk to modify while partaking of the excellent coffee and croissants until next Saturday (the 10th). Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday *only* one copy had been nicked! Attempts to get info out of him regarding the resurfacing of JAMS '1987' were initially sidelined with "I don't know anything about it," which he was then told to be absolute bollox! He then said that he "didn't have anything to do with it" -- which, although it explains nothing, at least rings true... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Daw" Subject: (klf) Is Erik Gander still on the list? Date: 04 Jun 2000 16:51:33 +0100 Is Erik Gander still on the list? If so, can you email me please? Thanks... Simon Daw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dj Batman Subject: (klf) come visit us! Date: 30 May 2000 21:57:25 +0200 http://www.kutmusic.com The site still looks very crappy and with not much content but--- hey! We have oour own domain and lots of great content will appear in the next days. Take a quick look then come back to visit us again! Dj Batman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) KLF mpegs online... sort of Date: 01 Jun 2000 00:09:41 +0200 hello there K people I decided to make you happy one more time, and so I set up a 50MB account on http://www.freedrive.com now, here's how to enter user: djdominion pass: tceptal feel free to browse "My Folder" and download any file (and upload too - KLF mp3s/pics/txt etc :) please do not overload this account and keep it clean. if all goes well I shall upload some more K goodies bye bye -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) I've always been of the opinion that this was a bootleg. Date: 01 Jun 2000 00:52:15 +0200 > it was a bootleg, either that or the record company didnt know what they > were dealing with thats why it was recalled. > from what i was told at the time and have pieced together since, > is that it > was pressed and somehow the people responsible managed to get distribution > for it through an independant distributor (pinnacle i think it was) the > records were delivered to the shops(chart shops, not second hand or > specialist dealers) on a friday ready for monday sales, on the saturday > morning the shops were telephoned and told to return all copies to the > distributor (my copy wasnt returned since my girlfreind at the time worked > in one of these shops and claimed that their 2 copies had never been > received), so as to minimise losses i assume that all returned copies were > sold-on to a third party and thus released as a bootleg. > > as for color, the 2 copies which i have seen are both b&w sleeve & black > vinal (very official release looking) so i dont know about colors. Theres a clear vinyl and a mustard color vinyl. They both look as official as the original black release (actually they look identical apart from the color), but i have no idea on the origin of these. To me, they look more like promos than bootlegs though... Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) come visit us! Date: 04 Jun 2000 20:14:20 +0200 > http://www.kutmusic.com > > The site still looks very crappy and with not much content but--- hey! > Dj Batman I had to pick myself up from the floor laughing when i read this sitename, the word "kut" in dutch can be translated as cunt and/or in this context as extremely awful music! Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: (klf) Discography last modified 10 May 1998 (756 days ago). Date: 05 Jun 2000 07:30:56 +0200 ... Peace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 05 Jun 2000 20:43:37 +1000 "John.C.S.Quel" wrote: > Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available > ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown > envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe > -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday > *only* one copy had been nicked! One of the five books that Bill had printed and bound at considerable personal expense, and made available for public perusal, had been stolen - and we're supposed to be *pleased*? And wish that *more* were stolen? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fisheye Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 05 Jun 2000 21:31:18 +0100 "mute@tpg.com.au" wrote: > > "John.C.S.Quel" wrote: > > > Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available > > ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown > > envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe > > -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday > > *only* one copy had been nicked! > > One of the five books that Bill had printed and bound at considerable > personal expense, and made available for public perusal, had been stolen > - and we're supposed to be *pleased*? And wish that *more* were stolen? > > May i just step in and defend Monsieur Quel. (Tho i am sure he can defend himself)I believe he was sending on a fw, these were not his words.(Tho he didn't make this clear or not) However, I think Monsieur Quel, along with myself, doesn't give a toss if they get nicked or end up in the British Musuem. I think Bill is fully aware of the possibility of books going walkabout, whats wrong with a bit of chaos?! Maybe someone should contact Bill and see how upset he is(or isn't)? I am sure Bill is fully prepared for anything that may happen to the copies he places on show. You really think losing a few copies of a book is gonna worry someone who burns a million in cash??! I know I'd have found it very hard not to have stolen a copy if I had been there. I guess you would even pay 4 a copy of 'Steal this book'?!? It's folk like me who spoil it for the rest of you. -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Fisheye in Cyberspace: http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ Visit this site or another Moose dies. ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ (..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 05 Jun 2000 23:24:37 +0100 i can see the funny side to it. Ever since the 'bible of dreams' bill and co have released various things saying "only 500 copies!" or, "very limited edition" etc, immediately increasing it's value to a gullible public (no offence to anyone). it's no wonder the audience doesn't try to grab the 'EXTREME RARITIES' that are dangled before them ( i would.) sit back and enjoy it all. Ollie > > "John.C.S.Quel" wrote: > > > > > Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available > > > ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown > > > envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe > > > -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday > > > *only* one copy had been nicked! > > > > One of the five books that Bill had printed and bound at considerable > > personal expense, and made available for public perusal, had been stolen > > - and we're supposed to be *pleased*? And wish that *more* were stolen? > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mute@tpg.com.au Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 06 Jun 2000 06:51:14 GMT Fisheye enquired: > You really think losing a few copies of a book is gonna worry someone > who burns a million in cash??! "Bill used to be rich, so therefore it's okay to steal his property!" Ollie 'can see the funny side to it. Ever since the 'bible of dreams' bill and co have released various things saying "only 500 copies!" or, "very limited edition" etc, immediately increasing it's value to a gullible public (no offence to anyone). it's no wonder the audience doesn't try to grab the 'EXTREME RARITIES' that are dangled before them ( i would.)' "If Bill was actually selling this, he'd be charging too much money for it, so it's alright to steal it!" I remain unconvinced. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: (klf) promos for 45 Date: 06 Jun 2000 15:50:58 +0100 i have a couple of spare promos for 45, they are 8 1/2 inches high and 5 1/4 inches wide... 24 pages of stuff thats probably in the book already. anyone sad enough to want one... anyone sad enough to send me a SAE for one.. email me and well, i might let you have one... *grin* dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Jasse Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 06 Jun 2000 14:06:34 -0400 (EDT) From the fertile mind of mute@tpg.com.au sprouted: > I remain > unconvinced. Perhaps watching your winning bid go up in flames would convince you that the money is completely irrelevant. hugh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 06 Jun 2000 20:33:31 +0100 In message fisheye writes >> One of the five books that Bill had printed and bound at considerable >> personal expense, and made available for public perusal, had been stolen >> - and we're supposed to be *pleased*? And wish that *more* were stolen? Did I say that I was *pleased* or even condone this alleged action? I was merely passing on an account of what I had been informed from someone present at the festival, but you can shoot me down as being the messenger if you like! Of course Bill has never stolen anything off of anyone else and no one on this list would dream of securing samples or MP3s, etc :-O >end up in the British Musuem. Personally, I don`t see any definition whether someone burns the book and makes a video out of it (as long as Bill gets his due credit) or if it joins the ranks of the chained books in the library at Hereford Cathedral. >I think Bill is fully aware of the possibility of books going >walkabout, whats wrong with a bit of chaos?! I`m sure that he is very aware of such consequences possibly occuring and things such as this only add to the whole mythology of what he is doing whether it brings success or failure it all becomes part of the greater whole. >Maybe someone should contact Bill and see how upset he is(or isn't)? Maybe worth tipping off Stewart Home and he can write an article about how he stole it and after smearing it with his own faeces has then started to secrete pages within editions of Bill Drummond related seven inch records spanning his recording career so far. [BTW Any Stewart Home fanatics on the list might be interested in participating in a plagiarist list that has been set up in order to fake a novel by him. More details are at: http://www.egroups.com/group/plagiarist Check out the voluminous archives. There are already about 80,000 words of crude text. Editing will start soonish. Any additions or complete volte faces welcomed...] >You really think losing a few copies of a book is gonna worry someone >who burns a million in cash??! I`m sure he won`t be able to sleep at night at all now... >I guess you would even pay 4 a copy of 'Steal this book'?!? Fellow 'Yippie!' Jerry Rubin recounts in his autobiography "Growing (Up) at 37" that after he proclaimed (in his book 'Do It!'), "All money represents theft. To steal from the rich is a sacred and religious act. To take what you need is an act of self-love, self-liberation. While looting, a man to his own self is true" in the summer of 1973 his temporary home was broken into and his woman friend`s clothes, stereo, jewellery, and furniture stolen. A few months later he learned that an ex-movement acquaintance of his had done the robbery. He rushed over to her house and found the jewellery ruined, the clothes torn, and most of the personal belongings destroyed. After confronting the thief she said that it was a lark, as she wanted to see if she could get away with it. She had been in high school while he had been running around the country advocating anarchy and in advocating stealing as a revolutionary act, but he though that perhaps he didn`t make clear the difference between stealing from General Motors and stealing from himself. The two people who collaborated (by editing) with Abbie Hoffman on "Steal This Book" later publicly accused Abbie of stealing the book from *them*, and he later said, "I stole 'Steal This Book'?!? That sounds like something I would think up!" For all that we know, Bill (or someone that he knows) might have appropriated it... :-O # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Channel 4 Vs The KLF Date: 06 Jun 2000 20:50:25 +0100 In message Derek Knight writes >I remember Channel 4 having Fuck The Millenium as the backing music for a >report on the Millenium Dome on the Mark Thomas Product. Which I thought was >brilliant! > >And I don't think they used the radio edit, either. Respect. They used the full unexpurgated version... I should know as I was there on the day and the recording the night after (as were some others on this mailing list!) ;-) This isn`t the first time that 'K' related soundtracks have featured during MT`s programmes. Sections of 'Chill Out' and 'The Magnificent' were used in the second series and I`m sure that there were others included in other shows too. As I`ve previously mentioned Mark did a pilot for an interview series called 'The Cutting Room' and as his first guest he interviewed Bill Drummond (after having exclusive access to all of BD`s clippings archives and diaries, etc) but as yet he has still not seen the footage that was shot and the programme was never broadcast (although filmed back in May 1997). He`s also been trying to get The K Foundation to do a certain charity cover version of a song with Chumbawamba, but I doubt that will ever come off... :-( Those who went to the Reading Festival in 1996 would also have seen Mark`s special art event/band 'The KY Foundation' (details of which have been locked away in a bank safe until the right time permit...) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |+-+-+-+- The Mark Thomas Product -+-+-+-+| +-.=""=.--.=""=.--.="""=.--.=""=.--.=""=.-+ |/ O O \/ OOOO \/ FOUR \/ O O \/ OOOO \| || OOOO || OOOO || MAT || OOOO || OOOO || |\ OOOO /\ OO /\ TRAP /\ OOOO /\ OO /| +-'=..='--'=..='--'=...='--'=..='--'=..='-+ |+-+ http://www.fnord.demon.co.uk/mt +-+| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 06 Jun 2000 20:37:27 +0100 In message Ollie writes >immediately increasing it's value to a gullible public (no >offence to anyone). it's no wonder the audience doesn't try to grab the >'EXTREME RARITIES' that are dangled before them ( i would.) Well, I`ve been at some 'K' related events (and heard tales from many others) and seen people attempting to nick certain extreme rarities, etc and I`m quite surprised that a copy of the 12" edition hadn`t been whisked away sooner (rightly or wrongly in whoever`s eyes and mind). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: (klf) my website Date: 06 Jun 2000 17:06:23 PDT Hello Pleas visit my website and give som feedback. http://uddis.linuxgods.com/ (klick on the speaker) is this Ok (copyright)? Shold i set up all KLF songs? and movies? And do someone have I Love Disco 2000? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) klf interviews/calling guitar freaks Date: 07 Jun 2000 01:44:34 +0100 hi all, i downloaded a klf (well, just bill actually) radio interview from a url (see below) posted to this list http://www.freedrive.com user: djdominion pass: tceptal ..and thought it was real good, so if anyone knows of anthing similar please let me know Radio DJ: "so, you will talk about the burning in 20 years?" Bill: "23 actually.." - Ollie ps. on a slightly different note, any guitar players here: i read in 45 about how bill/jimmy think that they will 'never be as good as michael jackson' after hearing/seeing video of his song called 'earth song'. i thought i would look into this, and grabbed the guitar tablature from here: http://olga.imedia.com.pl:8080/main/j/jackson_michael/earth_song.crd this song is really simple and sounds real damn good played solo on a guitar! (electric or acoustic) i actually agree with bill and jimmy now ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael K Subject: (klf) My Name is Michael K Date: 07 Jun 2000 03:12:00 +0100 New members are encouraged to introduce themselves. When you join, please send a message to the list describing (in brief) who you are and your interest in the list's topic: Data: Michael K Other Data: Revolution # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fisheye Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 07 Jun 2000 12:31:03 +0100 mute@tpg.com.au wrote: > > Fisheye enquired: >> You really think losing a few copies of a book is gonna worry >>someone who burns a million in cash??! > > "Bill used to be rich, so therefore it's okay to steal his > property!" > > YOU WHAT?!? that's kinda putting words into my gills isn't it? I never said that. I don't advocate nicking off people on the grounds that they once had, or still have, large amounts of cash, or are well off.(Well, not that reason alone!) But I reckon Bill was more than prepared for the consequence of some of these copies going walkabout, otherwise they'd be under lock and key in a glass case surely?!? He must also be aware that some followers of his work are low lifes and criminals, members of the underclasses, some are having it easy, but most are having it hard. They are liberating Bill's words and perhaps they can get enough cash for it to help them out of a tricky situation, like withdrawals or the DTs, how much smack or Special Brew could you get for a copy of said book? Enough for a good time I should think! Or you could spend it all in a peep show, you could probably be in there all day. Have I convinced you now? > > "If Bill was actually selling this, he'd be charging too much > money for it, so it's alright to steal it!" > Erm, don't think I said this either? Or was it Ollie? > I remain > unconvinced. I'm sure Bill will be very pleased with your allegiance and loyalty. -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Fisheye in Cyberspace: http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ Visit this site or another Moose dies. ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ (..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: Re: (klf) my website Date: 07 Jun 2000 05:30:20 PDT Im werry sorry the page will be up in a day or two. I axedently turnd of all users inc my self. (you suldent try to fix with unix if you dont know anyting aboute it) >Hello >Pleas visit my website and give som feedback. >http://uddis.linuxgods.com/ >(klick on the speaker) >is this Ok (copyright)? >Shold i set up all KLF songs? and movies? >And do someone have I Love Disco 2000? > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: (klf) Stewart Home Date: 06 Jun 2000 21:48:52 +0100 Hmm... With this talk of Stewart Home - Was I the only one not to know that Bill & Jimmy (as 2K) are on the cover of his book Confusion Incorporated : A Collection of Lies, Hoaxes & Hidden Truths? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1899598111/qid=960324335/sr=1-3 /102-4925171-2581764 Is he the guy mentioned in Pete Robinson's Justified & Ancient History? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Z books Date: 07 Jun 2000 22:14:22 +0100 > Anyone read "Crucify me again" or "Get your cock out" yet? > > If so, are they any good or of interest as to what Z and Bill may be up to? I've started reading "Get Your Cock Out" - one mention of Bill so far (other than in the credits) and definately less repulsive _so far_ than Z's contribution to Bad Wisdom. Digression: Why is Bill's voice so beautiful and soothing? I mean, if I said "pulled up to rest, let the engine cool a while" it would sound crap?! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) tent with flag marked '23' at glastonbury :O) Date: 08 Jun 2000 00:28:08 +0100 hello all, anyone planning to go to glastonbury festival in a few weeks? bye, Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) more KLF mp3 interviews on freedrive.com Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:17:59 +0200 Somebody asked here for more KLF interviews in mp3 format. Here they are then, ready to download from my freedrive.com account (user: djdominion / pass: tceptal ) from KLF/mp3 folder. * jimmy.mp3 [846 kb] an extract from Omnibus documentary, where Jimmy talks about burning his own money and trouble sleeping * mediashow.mp3 [502 kb] KLF talk about their no. 1 hit single "Doctorin The Tardis" * Rapido1.mp3 [373 kb] Drummond and Cauty discuss the original pure trance version of "What Time Is Love" * Rapido2.mp3 [436 kb] Hear Drummond explain why did they score a no. 1 with "3:am Eternal" * Rapido3.mp3 [502 kb] "The White Room" film - the trouble continuous * Reportage.mp3 [552 kb] "Sir, are you telling me that all you need to have a no.1 hit is this pile of junk?" ;) * Snubtv_full.mp3 [2,14 mb] I have once posted an url to an edited version of this interview. This time here's a full version. Hear the real reason behind recording "Doctorin The Tardis" there's some more K goodies in KLF/pics and /video folders for you. also, feel free to browse thru other folders, lot's of fun stuff ready to download including some of my music (wait, that's not fun :) enjoy -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: Re: (klf) Stewart Home Date: 08 Jun 2000 17:36:34 +1000 Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > Hmm... With this talk of Stewart Home - Was I the only one not to know > that Bill & Jimmy (as 2K) are on the cover of his book Confusion > Incorporated : A Collection of Lies, Hoaxes & Hidden Truths? It also contains a few of his fictional journalism pieces about Bill and Jimmy, including the one that got thick police raiding Jimmy's farm to find his cache of illegal weaponry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: Re: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 08 Jun 2000 17:57:56 +1000 "John.C.S.Quel" wrote: > Of course Bill has never stolen anything off of anyone else and no one > on this list would dream of securing samples or MP3s, etc :-O There's a big difference between downloading an illegal reproduction of a song, recontextualising a few seconds of someone else's composition or recording in your own piece, and taking one of only five physical copies of a hand-made work. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 08 Jun 2000 17:34:59 +1000 fisheye wrote: > >> You really think losing a few copies of a book is gonna worry > >>someone who burns a million in cash??! > > > > "Bill used to be rich, so therefore it's okay to steal his > > property!" > YOU WHAT?!? > that's kinda putting words into my gills isn't it? I never said that. > I don't advocate nicking off people on the grounds that they once had, > or still have, large amounts of cash, or are well off.(Well, not that > reason alone!) But I reckon Bill was more than prepared for the > consequence of some of these copies going walkabout, otherwise they'd be > under lock and key in a glass case surely?!? > He must also be aware that some followers of his work are low lifes and > criminals, members of the underclasses, some are having it easy, but > most are having it hard. They are liberating Bill's words and perhaps > they can get enough cash for it to help them out of a tricky situation, > like withdrawals or the DTs, how much smack or Special Brew could you > get for a copy of said book? Enough for a good time I should think! Or > you could spend it all in a peep show, you could probably be in there > all day. "Bill should know that his property might get stolen by junkies, therefore it's okay to steal it". > Have I convinced you now? Nope. > > "If Bill was actually selling this, he'd be charging too much > > money for it, so it's alright to steal it!" > > > > Erm, don't think I said this either? Or was it Ollie? Yeah, that was Ollie. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr M" Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:49:29 BST Please check out my new tune and download it if you like it.... Click the web link below - or visit www.getoutthere.bt.com go to "music" then "charts" and search for "spike - dark project"! Thanks in advance.... Tony http://www.getoutthere.bt.com/music/shared/index_charts.cfm?gototrack=1975 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: (klf) tent with flag marked '23' at glastonbury :O) Date: 08 Jun 2000 13:46:54 +0100 Hi, I'm new here, just joined and am already impressed with the amount of messages that have come through. Anyway, a few us are at Glastonbury this year. Our flag is 'the tunes'. 23's better though... M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RobertStringerR@aol.com Subject: (klf) I need the address to the KLF mainpage. Date: 08 Jun 2000 10:40:23 EDT I had to reinstall me ISP and lost all of me Web addresses. Could someone please sens me the address to the KLF mainpage. Eternally Yours, R.Stringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: RE: (klf) tent with flag marked '23' at glastonbury :O) Date: 08 Jun 2000 15:37:21 +0100 You got in the Tipi field? Not sure where I'm camping. Have 2 options....hmmm M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "He's watching 24 hours of rubbish!" Subject: (klf) Scourge of the Earth - Ian Brown Date: 08 Jun 2000 02:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Just got the promo single for Ian Brown's "Love Like A Fountain" today and it's really good! Reminded me of Stadium House stuff a bit, actually... Pyenapple # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: (klf) Hello list lovers! Date: 08 Jun 2000 22:20:35 +0100 Following Michael K's post I just thought I'd say Hi and introduce myself to the group. My name is Andy and I had the ultimate pleasure of working at Rough Trade & Appearing (the wonderful Scott Pearing's outfit) during the late 80's early 90's. I managed to witness first hand the genius at work (or not!). I'm just getting back into "K" Kulture so thanks to all who post. Hi to Pete Robinson (I used to answer your phone questions at Appearing) Hi also to Tim "positive void" Richards (I've put your White Room VCD in the post today!) C Ya Soon Andy PS Hi to any Ex-Rough Traders/Cartel folk on the list. Anyone know how many list members there are? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: (klf) my website is upp again Date: 08 Jun 2000 16:16:24 PDT Now everything works again. >Hello >Pleas visit my website and give som feedback. >http://uddis.linuxgods.com/ >(klick on the speaker) >is this Ok (copyright)? >Shold i set up all KLF songs? and movies? And do someone have I Love Disco 2000???? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (klf) OT: St. Louis Question Date: 08 Jun 2000 23:24:41 -0500 greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially one that would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as well. thanks to all for the time. oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis next week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while visiting st. louis are welcome as well. lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: SV: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 08 Jun 2000 22:14:43 +0200 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: mute@tpg.com.au Till: John.C.S.Quel Kopia: klf@xmission.com Datum: den 8 juni 2000 10:54 =C4mne: Re: (klf) Steal This '45'? > > There's a big difference between downloading an illegal reproduction >of a song, recontextualising a few seconds of someone else's = composition >or recording in your own piece, and taking one of only five physical >copies of a hand-made work. > Is it?? / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fisheye Subject: Re: (klf) klf interviews/calling guitar freaks Date: 09 Jun 2000 07:39:09 +0100 Ollie wrote: > > hi all, > > i downloaded a klf (well, just bill actually) radio interview from a url > (see below) posted to this list > > http://www.freedrive.com > user: djdominion pass: tceptal > > I did try this but it reckoned there was no such account?? Anyone get in using these details? I did have an mp3 of a short interview with Bill on Radio 4 which was aired recently, dunno if it's the same one as I didn't get in to hear it. Tho i suspect it maybe as it does contain the question you quoted in your email: Radio DJ: "so, you will talk about the burning in 20 years?" Bill: "23 actually.." If it's a different one I'd love to get the right details to acces it. -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Fisheye in Cyberspace: http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ Visit this site or another Moose dies. ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ (..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Cooper" Subject: Re: (klf) OT: St. Louis Date: 09 Jun 2000 09:16:19 GMT >oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis next >week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while >visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > >lysergic I've been to St. Louis, three years ago on a trip to see family in Homer, Illinois. Make sure you check out the St. Louis arch!! the view is incredible and it is a remarkable piece of engineering. Also, there are some great restaurants down by the river, we went to a wicked one called the Spaghetti Factory. I didn't see much of the city up close though, never got to go shoppping :( Joe ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: (klf) the Man Date: 09 Jun 2000 09:29:57 +0100 Hi kids. Well seing as I'm new here, I thought I'd introduce myself as well. I'm called Mark Silver from Leeds, UK. Basically I've been into the KLF/Drummond for 8 years. The first single I bought was America: What Time is Love? and ever since then I've drifted in and out of the worlds of Drummond and Cauty. Every now and then I come back to the fold to check what mad things Bill is up to and get blown away every time. My main problem is that I keep boring all my friends/enemies/acquaintences about the Man, so I thought it best to join this list and get all my frustrations out. Over the years Bill Drummond has inspired me, scared me, annoyed me, amused me, intrigued me..... About a year ago, after messing with guitars for years, I finally got into sampling and all that goes with it. The KLF formed the perfect template for me to start learning everything I now know about production/sequencing/sampling (still not THAT much). Bill's writing has inspired me also to visualise what form my music is going to take. Other stuff I'm into includes: Echo and the Bunnymen Teardrops (and Cope) Garbage Dandy Warhols (who I caught on Tuesday...fantastic) Massive Attack Anyone want to form a band? M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 09 Jun 2000 11:21:36 +0100 | -----Original Message----- | From: Robert Vangus [mailto:robert@jsr.pp.se] | -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- | Fr=E5n: mute@tpg.com.au | > | > There's a big difference between downloading an illegal=20 | reproduction | >of a song, recontextualising a few seconds of someone else's=20 | composition | >or recording in your own piece, and taking one of only five physical | >copies of a hand-made work. | > |=20 | Is it?? |=20 | / Robert Yes! Now, if someone "borrowed" a 12" copy of '45 and photocopied/ scanned the contents so that everyone could read the bits that aren't in the 7", and then returned the 12" copy...... that would be similar to distributing MP3's of unavailable music. But stealing the hand bound copies is a bit like nicking Bill's master tapes. Not the same thing at all. And all this crap about junkies etc..... stealing for a fix - its easy to be a benevolent do-gooder until its *your* house gets broken into, *your* rare vinyl that gets stolen or trashed, *your* tv that takes a walk or *your* car that disappears in a cloud of dust. Most of us work pretty hard to maintain whatever standard of living we have, just like Bill Drummond. I've been following this thread with disbelief, trying not to get involved, but I'm definitely with Mute here. Stealing the fruits of a persons labour, especially a personal labour of love, cannot be justified by any of the arguments I have seen. I'm not a heartless bastard. I'm not blind to poverty, misery and suffering. But I don't buy the 'all property is theft' premisse, except in a closed community where everybody agrees to the rules. A few comments: - if the book was stolen by somebody with drug problems, someone out of work with a family to feed, a homeless person.... then lets hope somebody has the decency to give them a good price for the merchandise. Personally I don't think the book was taken by a person in this "category" and I think many of them would be offended by the label "prime suspects" that some people seem to have lumbered them with. - if it was stolen as an art-terrorist style stunt, then lets hope the culprit either sees the error of his ways, or exhibits the book in some way that others can at least share the stunt. - if it was stolen by a fan who fancied a bit of exclusive Bill/KLF.... memorabilia then the same rules apply as for the "stunt". - if it was stolen by some opportunist who doesn't *need* the money, = but fancies a fast buck, then may he rot in whatever sort of hell he = personally subscribes to. For my part, I cannot see the theft as either "cool" or "justified". And I don't believe Bill was "asking for it". -Andy -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:47:41 -0400 Date: 09 Jun 2000 08:47:47 -0600 In the Fun Lovin' Criminals tune "The Fun Lovin' Criminal" there is the line "I'm more freaky than Disco 2000", is this a reference to the KLF in anyway? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thorpe1@talk21.com Subject: (klf) Following the fashion... Date: 09 Jun 2000 22:27:38 +0100 It seems to be all the rage to be introducing ourselves on the list and, although I first appeared on the list way back in '95, I don't think I ever did say an official hello. So here goes...the bluffer's guide... I first came across Messers Drummond and Cauty in 1988 when by sheer chance I stumbled across the Pure Trance "3am Eternal" on ITV's legendary "The Hit Man and Her" programme. Wondering what the theme tune to the show was, I made the mistake of believing Michaela Strachan when she said it was the aforementioned KLF track. Obviously (and those who remember the show will know) this was not correct. To be honest, when I bought KLF04 the next day I was slightly disappointed but also somewhat surprised by the quality of what I heard. This was the beginning of something beautiful. 12 years on and my relationship with The Sound of Mu is still strong, though I do admit I have lost track of what the guys have been getting up to since they "***ked the millenium" good and proper and Bill returned from the lighthouse. Nowadays, nobody in the music industry comes close to the genius of Bill and Jim. There is some good music to be had out there but I do often wonder what kind of music they would have made if they had started out in 2000 rather than when they did. Moby would probably be the closest as he is one of the few who can mix subliminal sampling with meaningful nonsense and get away with it. Maybe I'm wrong and I should hang up my horn and cloak forever... Till I do I'll just Keep Looking Forward Tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fisheye Subject: Re: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 10 Jun 2000 03:00:42 +0100 Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com wrote: > > > > Yes! Now, if someone "borrowed" a 12" copy of '45 and photocopied/ > scanned the contents so that everyone could read the bits that aren't > in the 7", and then returned the 12" copy...... that would be similar > to distributing MP3's of unavailable music. But stealing the hand > bound copies is a bit like nicking Bill's master tapes. Not the same > thing at all. > > And all this crap about junkies etc..... stealing for a fix - its > easy to be a benevolent do-gooder until its *your* house gets broken > into, *your* rare vinyl that gets stolen or trashed, *your* tv that > takes a walk or *your* car that disappears in a cloud of dust. Most > of us work pretty hard to maintain whatever standard of living we > have, just like Bill Drummond. > > I've been following this thread with disbelief, trying not to get > involved, but I'm definitely with Mute here. I can't believe that someone on a K list has their head so far up their own arse! You are too serious man, fuck em if they can't take a joke or recognise humour and flippancy when they are presented with it! Get back to painting your white picket fence and cleaning your car on a Sunday. Maybe you should just 'Chill out'?!? Stop acting so 'Justified' Following this thread with disbelief are you? I can hardly believe the way you write, Jesus, people have drawn all sorts of conclusions and taken this thread to extremes, all i said was it's no fucking big deal if they got nicked, It's you and mute who have started on all this justified wank. Judge , jury and executioner you'd be! Maybe this thread should be renamed anal?? Fuck, when i worked at matrix studios i had the opportunity to knick a KLF 2 inch, can't recall which track now, if I had maybe you guys would have hunted me down or turned me over to Crimewatch?!? (Tho the band i was recording there with did actually sneak the 2inch out of the cupboard and nicked a few tracks off the 2inch! I ain't telling who, you guys may start a campaign!) -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Fisheye in Cyberspace: http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ Visit this site or another Moose dies. ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ (..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fisheye Subject: Re: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 10 Jun 2000 03:01:12 +0100 jusr a quickie to say don't take my comments too personally. It ain't personal, I don't even know you, but feel free to flame away! -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Fisheye in Cyberspace: http://www.geocities.com/fisheye23/ Visit this site or another Moose dies. ^-^-^- xx -^-;-^ (..) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@my24.com Subject: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 10:39:25 -0000 FBI on BBC1 (?) this morning. Atomic Kitten plays a boring dance track called "I want your love" and a well-known sample emerges: "Bring the beat back". Isn't this one from WTIL? A, no more -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://NamePlanet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thorpe1@talk21.com Subject: Re: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 12:01:32 +0100 Actually, it was "Justified and Ancient". Good old Ricardo Lyte on the mike. Tony ------ Reply to Message ------ To: thorpe1@talk21.com klf@lists.xmission.com From: klf@my24.com Sent: 10/06/00 11:39 Subject: (klf) "Bring the beat back" FBI on BBC1 (?) this morning. Atomic Kitten plays a boring dance track called "I want your love" and a well-known sample emerges: "Bring the beat back". Isn't this one from WTIL? A, no more # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 12:00:00 +0100 > FBI on BBC1 (?) this morning. Atomic Kitten plays a boring dance track called "I > want your love" and a well-known sample emerges: "Bring the beat back". Isn't > this one from WTIL? I haven't heard that particular track.. But "bring the beat back" is from Justified & Ancient... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) KLF/KYJ It's great down south Date: 10 Jun 2000 13:38:36 GMT KLF/KYJ "It’s Great Down South" UK 12” W/L test press + press release sheet - the answer to the JAMS ‘It’s Grim Up North’ 12KYJ1 can somebody tell me more about this? cheers, maarten ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 15:51:19 +0200 thorpe1@talk21.com wrote: > > Actually, it was "Justified and Ancient". Good old Ricardo Lyte on the mike. originally introduced by Public Enemy on their 2nd album btw. does anybody here happen to have PE's London gig from 3rd November 1987 c/o BBC? great chunks of crowd noises from that night were used to death in all classic rave records... -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 15:23:07 +0100 > > FBI on BBC1 (?) this morning. Atomic Kitten plays a boring dance track called "I > > want your love" and a well-known sample emerges: "Bring the beat back". Isn't > > this one from WTIL? > > > I haven't heard that particular track.. But "bring the beat back" is from > Justified & Ancient... It actually is a direct sample from J&A. You can hear the breakbeat under Ricardo's distinctive vocals. The track also samples a huge chunk of the theme from Big Country, but yes, it is a bit rubbish! Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Sinclair Subject: RE: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) > theme from Big Country, but yes, it is a bit > rubbish! Hi all, but Atomic Kitten are fine girls! For their first single "Right Now" they sampled S-express-theme from s-express. The J&A Bring the beat back is definatly KLF-who would have liscensed this? I'm wandering why Atomic Kitten are sampling early 90's dance tracks anyway... they are just an average girl band-kinda like the spice girls, and I guess they're marketed at my kind of age group... I give up! Mark Sinclair ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 10 Jun 2000 22:14:56 +0100 > > theme from Big Country, but yes, it is a bit > > rubbish! > Hi all, > but Atomic Kitten are fine girls! Yeah, one of my housemates has a rather unhealthy obsession with them... > For their first > single "Right Now" they sampled S-express-theme from > s-express. The J&A Bring the beat back is definatly > KLF-who would have liscensed this? > I'm wandering why Atomic Kitten are sampling early > 90's dance tracks anyway... I somehow doubt that it's the girls' idea ;o) I guess their producer/s are fans of that era. Also, I'd imagine that those artists are more sample friendly, as they were sampling everyone else themselves. As for the licensing, I have no idea. Maybe they hoped noone would notice! Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: (klf) A KLF comic that wasn't Deep Shit Date: 12 Jun 2000 21:40:29 +1000 ...but also never came out. Comics writer (and not violinist) Warren Ellis recently noted his one-time experience working on a KLF comic at his message board (www.delphi.com/ellis): Well, if you're all sitting comfortably, I'll begin... Not much of a story, to be honest. Tundra UK somehow got involved with the creation of a KLF comic -- there was some interaction with Drummond and Cauty on it, not sure how much. Writer Gordon Rennie and a couple of Scots artists whose names I forget were already involved, and there was already a plot structure. I believe it had somehow been indicated that I was a preferred presence on the project -- LAZARUS CHURCHYARD had come out and was fondly thought of among the mentally deficient and the very old. I was given the plot structure and turned it inside out, drawing as much ref from the KLF material and the thinking and influences behind that as I could. I don't remember a lot about it, save that their London base of operations was now the golden pyramid on top of Canary Tower, and that what was required was a "road movie" through the various environments of their videos and performances. Anyway, once I was done, it was no longer bouncy and faux-TANK GIRL enough for the two artists, and Rennie had very much hitched himself to the artists. What they were doing was, as I sketchily recall, fairly stupid and appeared to have little to do with the KLF. Co-writing was plainly not going to go well. So I said I didn't want to be involved any more, use what I've already done if you want, best of luck, I'm off. I remember saying to one of the artists that that their version will probably make them rich, and he said, "You reckon? Oh, good! Fuck off, then." The book never came out, obviously. I dimly recall it being intimated to me that this was a result of my walking and their draft being crap, but I couldn't stand behind that. But this was a budgeted book during the days when Tundra UK were actually printing material, and it never came out. So make of it what you may. The artists were never seen again. Rennie, an early collaborator of Frank Quitely's who was always a bit workshy and once claimed to me that he had to get pissed to write script, is currently writing WARHAMMER comics work-for-hire. He has eighteen thousand children and lives in Glasgow. -- Warren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) New Scooter single vs. The KLF Date: 12 Jun 2000 14:42:55 CEST Hi all! When Torsten Pattberg told me that the new Scooter single "I'm your pusher" was very much like IGUN I was quite curious. So I went downtown and listened to it - he's definately right! The third track on the single CD is VERY similar after all! Moreover, the video really looks like The White Room in a way! But what struck me even harder was the inner sleeve of the single, showing the three guys with an old black car with the Scooter logo sticking on the driver's door!!! Furthermore the landscape is "White Room"-ish! Are they Doctorin' The Tardis or what? Check out the photo: http://www.scooter-music.com/main.html What do you think about all this??? Dan --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) New Scooter single vs. The KLF Date: 12 Jun 2000 14:52:31 +0200 (CEST) On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Dan Kuta wrote: > Are they Doctorin' The Tardis or what? > What do you think about all this??? I'm collecting Scooter's MP3s for my friend and I can say, that there are many links to KLF inside songs of Scooter I think, that Scooter are plagiators, my friend tell me, that members of Scooter are fans of The KLF (source: some interview). BTW Dan, look for song called 'Psycho' and listen carefully words... =) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Deep Shit mp3 Date: 12 Jun 2000 15:37:30 +0200 yes K people grab it from http://www.freedrive.com user: djdominion pass: tceptal folder: My Folder/KLF/mp3 make sure you got your cookies enabled. or visit http://www.klf.de from where I sampled the tune. enjoy -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Deep Shit mp3 Date: 09 Jun 2000 01:40:36 +0200 yes K people grab it from http://www.freedrive.com user: djdominion pass: tceptal folder: My Folder/KLF/mp3 make sure you got your cookies enabled. or visit http://www.klf.de from where I sampled the tune. enjoy -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: XACT Intermedia Subject: (klf) [Fwd: Veterans Will Remember!] Date: 09 Jun 2000 11:51:52 +0100 -------- Original Message -------- Reply-To: xact@uk2.net Organization: Post_Samplists Mailing List (xact@uk2.net) Hi. Looking for help from FM or its readership on tracking down items concerning the KLF, X$X and 'The Black Room' in the pages of FM between '93 and '95. My only vague recollection was of a CD-Rom which some journalists at the NME had tried to put in a CD-player back in those 'Don't Play Track One' days of folk-lore. Reportedly, all that happened was 74 minutes of silence followed by the words 'Don't Buy The Black Room'. I've since heard a lot more about this jolly bunch and like the good anal-retentive I am am eager to track down the offending evidence. Any hep will be rewarded with my rare .mp3 collection of X$X 'vapourware' which I've already accumulated. You have been persuaded! Yours, in an official capacity, of course, Michael K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael K Subject: (klf) [Fwd: Veterans Will Remember!] Date: 08 Jun 2000 18:56:05 +0100 -------- Original Message -------- Reply-To: xact@uk2.net Organization: PSI Hi. Looking for help from FM or its readership on tracking down items concerning the KLF, X$X and 'The Black Room' in the pages of FM between '93 and '95. My only vague recollection was of a CD-Rom which some journalists at the NME had tried to put in a CD-player back in those 'Don't Play Track One' days of folk-lore. Reportedly, all that happened was 74 minutes of silence followed by the words 'Don't Buy The Black Room'. I've since heard a lot more about this jolly bunch and like the good anal-retentive I am am eager to track down the offending evidence. Any hep will be rewarded with my rare .mp3 collection of X$X 'vapourware' which I've already accumulated. You have been persuaded! Yours, in an official capacity, of course, Michael K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: Re: (klf) tent with flag marked '23' at glastonbury :O) Date: 08 Jun 2000 19:19:40 +0100 i really dont know, i am just going to try to get over the fence and camp where i can! i have no idea what or where the 'tipi' field is :-) but if you have that flag you mentioned i will certainly look out for it see you i hope at the festival! ps. i'll try to bring some copies of the white room movie which i have on cd as a pc .mpg movie if you are (or anyone else is) interested Ollie > > > You got in the Tipi field? > > Not sure where I'm camping. Have 2 options....hmmm > > M > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath Date: 08 Jun 2000 19:07:31 +0100 you liar! :-) i said nothing .. heh heh Ollie > > > > > "If Bill was actually selling this, he'd be charging too much > > > > money for it, so it's alright to steal it!" > > > > > > > > > > Erm, don't think I said this either? Or was it Ollie? > > > > Yeah, that was Ollie. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "e. lanum" Subject: (klf) Re: (orbital) OT: St. Louis Question Date: 09 Jun 2000 05:37:09 GMT try vintage vinyl and deep grooves, both are on like the 6300 block of delmar in university city. vintage has a pretty huge and varied selection as far as for things to do ttheres a shitload depending on what your into sports, the arch, union stations prretty cool, there are also some good clubs, cheetah and velvet on washington street hope this helps ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dance S Paterson Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) OT: St. Louis Question Date: 09 Jun 2000 16:14:50 -0400 Its been a wile but there was an electric veinal store in the U City Loop. If you are in downtown its a ride but I got some good stuff from there. Good luck. bro ps, I read the rules, im not sure if I can mention my web site, can I? > greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, > > Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially > one that > would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as > well. > thanks to all for the time. > > oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis > next > week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while > visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > > lysergic > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Steal This '45'? Date: 09 Jun 2000 12:48:50 +0200 Andrew, > And all this crap about junkies etc..... stealing for a fix - its > easy to be a benevolent do-gooder until its *your* house gets broken > into, *your* rare vinyl that gets stolen or trashed, *your* tv that > takes a walk or *your* car that disappears in a cloud of dust. Most > of us work pretty hard to maintain whatever standard of living we > have, just like Bill Drummond. I thought the point was that the copies are going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. If someone steals my TV, that's one thing, if someone steals the TV I'm going to give away to some random rich person on the street I can't really say I care. Kjetil Limkjaer Developer FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5 1432 GD AALSMEER The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)297-382323 Fax: +31 (0)297-382324 E-mail: kjetil@fiqas.nl Visit our website at http://www.fiqas.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Touzimsky" Subject: (klf) Scooter again... Date: 10 Jun 2000 21:50:51 +0200 Hi all, I had the great pleasure (veeeery ironic!) to watch the new Scooter video= on MTV this afternoon. Don=B4t remember who posted it on the message list, b= ut... yes, it looks very much like the White Room - and at the opening, you cou= ld really think it is ripped from IGUN... So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet?= I know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevl= y NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there = any more... ehm, "random equalities"? (I don=B4t like Scooter, but I was interested in this...) Thanks in advance! cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 10 Jun 2000 04:13:03 +0100 hello all, i don't think there's any need to get worked up about this latest topic. there's the funny side to it and then there is the moral side of whether theft is acceptable (in any form.) you could argue both sides until you are blue in the face and still resolve nothing (like a software piracy debate or a debate about racism !) i'm thinking of compiling "10 questions you'd like to ask bill" and maybe trying somehow to get them to him. my initial thoughts are perhaps: "have you ever been beaten up" and "do you like star trek" (haha no deep questions here :-) can anyone come up with some decent questions? anyway, that's all, bye for now Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael 'Maxx' Porter" Subject: (klf) Re: [CZ] OT: St. Louis Question Date: 09 Jun 2000 10:13:25 -0500 Vintage Vinyl in the loop (University City on Delmar) At 11:24 PM 6/8/00 -0500, lysergic maximus wrote: >greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, > >Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially one that >would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as well. >thanks to all for the time. > >oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis next >week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while >visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > >lysergic > > end **************************************************************************** ************* Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. -Dorothy Galyean **************************************************************************** ************* Michael "Maxx" Porter Vice President Paradox Studios Inc. mailto:maxxwell@theparadox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 12 Jun 2000 16:34:02 +0100 (BST) Re: Atomic Kitten On Sat 10 Jun, Derek Knight wrote: > [somebody else wrote:] > > For their first single "Right Now" they sampled S-express-theme from > > s-express. The J&A Bring the beat back is definatly KLF-who would > > have liscensed this? I'm wandering why Atomic Kitten are sampling > > early 90's dance tracks anyway... > > I somehow doubt that it's the girls' idea ;o) > > I guess their producer/s are fans of that era. Also, I'd imagine that > those artists are more sample friendly, as they were sampling everyone > else themselves. As far as I have been able to tell, Atomic Kitten are (or unless somebody was just joking when they told me this) the new front for the production team that has emerged out of the ashes of Orchestral Maneovres in the Dark. Now, OMD get a bad wrap nowdays for some of the blander pop stuff they put out, but some of their production work has been very good, and albums like "Liberator" are covered in the subtle use of samples throughout- including for example that Robocop sample that can be heard at the very beginning of the "White Room" version of "Last Train To Trancentral". So to see the emergence of a slightly tongue-in-cheek pop band front to ex-OMD producers, well I was optimistic that it might bring a little touch of class into a girl-band area currently dominated by tedium and stupid blonde American bimbos. However, their new single- which borrows ideas quite heavily from 808 State's "The Only Rhyme That Bites" (1990?) plus the KLF sample already mentioned (1991)- is frankly quite bland. I'm hoping things will improve... Oh, did somebody want some KLF content? Erm... Oh. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter again... Date: 12 Jun 2000 18:47:27 +0200 At 21:50 2000-06-10 , you wrote: >So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet? I >know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevly >NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there any >more... ehm, "random equalities"? Lots of references to KLF on the BTTHWJ-album... Read the lyrics on some of the songs. They even mention something about Mu there... Don't remember the details, but I posted them on the list when the album was released... Go dig in the archives... or steal the record (don't buy it, it's crap...) /Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter again... Date: 12 Jun 2000 19:54:30 +0200 (CEST) On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Thomas Touzimsky wrote: > So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet? I > know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevly > NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there any > more... ehm, "random equalities"? Scooter will have new album called "Sheffield". Read towns in IGUN. -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The KLF Videos Update (K-FRONT 3) Date: 12 Jun 2000 22:11:19 +0200 (CEST) Hi, there are some new stuff on ftp.pinknet.cz (same user and password). As part of Marek Mierzejewski's KLF Liberation Front project is now ready to d/l CD 3: K-FRONT/K-FRONT 3/ Contains: K-Foundation clip.mpg 13.6 MB [2K] - Barbican Gig (Camcoder Footage).mpg 472.5 MB [The KLF] - Stadium House (Work Version).mpg 197.0 MB P.S.: I'm sorry for a pause in updating... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:58:01 +0200 ok, just to cut short this discussion, I've uploaded a few Public Enemy clips to my freedrive.com account (l:djdominion p:tceptal) My Folder/Public Enemy 1. Bring-The-Beat-Back.mpg [3.9 MB] a short excerpt of the excellent London gig all the way back from 1987. Do you think Ricardo was there and therefore nicked the phrase??? ;) 2. Bring-The-Beat-Back.viv [1 MB] the same thing in lo-res Vivo file. Go to www.vivo.com for the player. 3. Bring-The-Beat-Back.mp3 [379 kb] a sped up version of the above clip. Actually, "Funky Drummer" sounds dope-cool at this speed. Enjoy. -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Robocop sound Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:48:56 +0100 (BST) On Mon 12 Jun, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > that Robocop sample that can be heard at the very beginning of the > > "White Room" version of "Last Train To Trancentral". > > huh??? > what sound??? The big DUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW sound that signals the end of "Church Of The KLF" and the beginning of "Last Train To Trancentral" on the White Room album. For ages I thought it was an original KLF-made noise, but then I watched "Robocop" and had to pause & rewind at the bit where the giant two-legged robot enters the conference room and powers up (or was it powers down?) and noticed that it's exactly the same noise. Thought I'd mention it in case anybody else didn't know... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Public Enemy Date: 12 Jun 2000 23:50:22 +0100 (BST) On Mon 12 Jun, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > ok, just to cut short this discussion, I've uploaded a few Public > Enemy clips to my freedrive.com account (l:djdominion p:tceptal) > > My Folder/Public Enemy Several people on this list know, I'm not one to pass up an opportunity to mention the Utah Saints at any possible opportunity- and this seems like a good opportunity. Chuck D (Public Enemy) is the guest vocalist on the new Utah track "Power To The Beats", which might be their next single, and even if not it will definitely be on the forthcoming album (due September). Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mute@tpg.com.au Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 07:13:28 GMT Ollie said: > i don't think there's any need to get worked up about this latest topic. > there's the funny side to it and then there is the moral side of whether > theft is acceptable (in any form.) I still don't see why it's supposed to be funny that Bill got robbed, whether by a fan, a junkie, or a clueless idiot. Meanwhile, Kjetil Limkjaer "thought the point was that the copies are going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. If someone steals my TV, that's one thing, if someone steals the TV I'm going to give away to some random rich person on the street I can't really say I care." Where was it ever announced that the copies were to be auctioned off and the money torched? I don't remember anything about that being mentioned on the list, and last week the Penkiln Burn site still had the days and times that you could visit the Foundry to read the books. Has anything like this actually been said anywhere, or are people now just pulling ideas that Bill will get money any way he can and immediately set fire to it out of their arses? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 01:56:03 -0700 So... Can somebody explain why the theft of intellectual properties is admirable, even warranting a newsgroup, yet the theft of physical properties is damnable? Or am I misunderstanding what Kopyrite Liberation Front stands for? Somewhere, Bill D is grinning at all this petty drama. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: (klf) Stadium House Date: 13 Jun 2000 10:33:59 +0100 Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in shot. Thanks M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House Date: 13 Jun 2000 12:45:33 +0200 > Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House > video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in > shot. I believe there's one nice picture from the Stadium House stage on my freedrive.com account. l:djdominion p:tceptal My Folder/KLF/Pics -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House Date: 13 Jun 2000 12:23:05 +0100 Cheers matie. Had a quick look, though it doesn't seem to be letting me download anything. Will try again in a bit. Thanks Mark cc: (bcc: Mark Silver/CYPHER) > Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House > video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in > shot. I believe there's one nice picture from the Stadium House stage on my freedrive.com account. l:djdominion p:tceptal My Folder/KLF/Pics -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 13:17:22 -0400 If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own selfish consumption, that's another matter. It's Art destroying art for Art's sake vs. limited materialistic vision. Would you rather be a producer using available materials to invent or a consumer bent on obtaining output by any means necessary? On the other hand, it's a symbiotic relationship, one needs the other to survive. Or perhaps it's ethics and morality vs. freedom and fun. Don't lose yourself in rigid realities. It's all subjective. -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RobertStringerR@aol.com Subject: (klf) I would like that pic also! Date: 13 Jun 2000 14:37:26 EDT If someone gets the PP Blaster pice please send it to me. Eternaly Yours, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House Date: 13 Jun 2000 20:56:31 +0200 > Ihave the video on VHS tape if anybody's interested, I can rip-out some Stadium House stills from the mpeg file -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs!" Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 19:03:11 -0500 > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > selfish consumption, that's another matter. What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? --Quahogs-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 14 Jun 2000 01:12:17 +0200 > What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? The Jams should have bulit a pyramid from the unsold "1987" copies -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 16:36:02 -0700 Who is talking about ashes? The Queen and I isnt quite based around a snippet of a sample... And only time will tell if the missing book will be used to selfish consumption, or the further creation of a shared piece. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if the book wasnt really missing as such, but rather "misplaced" (read:Bill D style publicity stunt) in order to act as the catalyst for further speculation. > > > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > > selfish consumption, that's another matter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mute@tpg.com.au Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 14 Jun 2000 02:39:39 GMT > > > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > > selfish consumption, that's another matter. > > What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? INTELLECTUAL property. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: FW: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 13 Jun 2000 12:08:17 +0200 (sorry you get this twice Mute, I was intending to send it to the list), > Meanwhile, Kjetil Limkjaer "thought the point was that the copies are > going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from > this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what > difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. > Where was it ever announced that the copies were to be auctioned > off and the money torched? I don't remember anything about that being > mentioned on the list, and last week the Penkiln Burn site still had > the days and times that you could visit the Foundry to read the books. > Has anything like this actually been said anywhere, or are people > now just pulling ideas that Bill will get money any way he can and > immediately set fire to it out of their arses? The message that started this entire thread was from one John C.S. Quel, saying: "Unfortunately he only caught a few minutes of Bill's 'talk', which seemed to go down well with the assembled weirdos and worshippers. Five copies of the 12" '45' were lodged in the jazz-net-cafe within the Brasserie for folk to modify while partaking of the excellent coffee and croissants until next Saturday (the 10th). Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday *only* one copy had been nicked!" I'm not sure where this was pulled from, but at least this is the message I was thinking of in my reply.. Peace, Kjetil Limkjaer Developer FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5 1432 GD AALSMEER The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)297-382323 Fax: +31 (0)297-382324 E-mail: kjetil@fiqas.nl Visit our website at http://www.fiqas.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 14 Jun 2000 00:02:05 -0400 >What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? Point taken. Collage is an accepted form of art, whether the material used was nicked or not. Isn't sampling a form of audio collage? I always viewed it that way. >Who is talking about ashes? The Queen and I isnt quite based around a snippet of >a sample... The Queen and I had quite a social commentary over the Abba track in question, leading me to say that something old made something new. It was a composition with a point and not a throw away track aimed at making fun of Frida and company. A sample is a sample whether it's a beat, 4 bars, or close to an entire song. Lace it with a kick drum, scratching and kazoo-duck like synth and you may have a piece that will get you sued when it hits stores shelves, especially when you don't have permission to use it. It's funny the musical community is more in tune with granting artists the right to use their songs in today's day and age. >Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if the book wasnt really missing as such, but >rather "misplaced" (read:Bill D style publicity stunt) in order to act as >the catalyst for further speculation. The only folks speculating about the "disappearance" are us on the list. I would like to think Bill could pull a grander prank than stealing his own books which he printed himself and could simply reprint again. Something targeted at the media perhaps to allow more limelight to shine? Publicity does help book sales whetehr you're Bill Durmmond or not. The main question is whether whoever has the "stolen" 12 inches will share the unedited copy with all or keep it to themselves. Right or wrong...it's still all subjective. -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Small problem Date: 14 Jun 2000 22:56:39 +0200 (CEST) Hi, there is small problem with KLF archive on ftp.pinknet.cz. My friend, admin of this mashine, has silly think to change FTP daemon. He done it very fast, all is running okay, just KLF account... Please, stand by day or two, he has some problem with configuration. I do apologize =( -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mojo Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond: The Man (artwork needed) Date: 14 Jun 2000 16:25:15 -0700 Does anyone have a hi-res scan of the cover and/or back of this CD? I'd like to print my own artwork for a CD made from MP3, but don't have anything good enough! Of course, I'd happily buy an original if I could find one... Please email a reply if you can. Thanks, Mojo Los Angeles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Simon Cauty's Discovery Channel contribution Date: 15 Jun 2000 02:01:02 +0200 http://www.compartvr.demon.co.uk/Discovery%20channel.htm -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Cauty spotted Date: 15 Jun 2000 02:23:29 +0200 http://www.netkonect.co.uk/w/wolfen/WolfStudios.html Jimmy Cauty credited as a one-time client yes, it's boring tonight. not so sure about tomorrow. -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mute@tpg.com.au" Subject: Re: FW: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Date: 15 Jun 2000 15:33:44 +1000 Kjetil Limkjaer wrote: > > Where was it ever announced that the copies were to be auctioned > > off and the money torched? I don't remember anything about that being > > mentioned on the list, and last week the Penkiln Burn site still had > > the days and times that you could visit the Foundry to read the books. > The message that started this entire thread was from one John C.S. Quel, > saying: > Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available > .. bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown > envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe This would be a case of John being funny, and Nederlander Kjetil unfortunately not understanding because of the use of English slang in John's quest for humour... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Videos Update (K-FRONT 3) Date: 15 Jun 2000 08:47:10 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ollie wrote: > hello adam, > > is that you who owns that ftp site? Me with my friends... > ps. what's the barbican gig like? is it watchable? or , because it's > through a camcorder does it make it poor quality. .. just curious. Barbican Gig is whole ***K THE MILLENIUM show recorded by camcoder. Quality is poor, but if you want to have feeling "I was there" or see it whole, it's good source. -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr M" Subject: (klf) New Tune!!! Date: 15 Jun 2000 08:44:39 BST Can I bother you to check out my tune people? http://www.getoutthere.bt.com/music/shared/index_charts.cfm?gototrack=1975 It's my first mp3 and I should by grateful of any comments... Many Thanks Tony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) KLF bits and pieces... Date: 15 Jun 2000 09:44:37 CEST Hi all! Recently I did some Trance/DnB/Electro tracks and used some KLF reference and samples in them (e.g. the chords of 3AM in "Fly" etc.)... I got five tracks up here and you should d/l them! ;) http://www.getoutthere.bt.com/music/shared/index_charts.cfm?subsection=charts Search for "Kuta" and give me some feedback please, k? Thanks a lot! DAN --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: RE: (klf) Bill Drummond: The Man (artwork needed) Date: 15 Jun 2000 09:04:47 +0100 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000242FY/026-8751878-5076812 > > mid price cd, still availible as a new cd > > now come on, that took me 30 seconds, surely you won't need that > scan of the cover now *grin* > > dan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mojo [mailto:Mojo@foundation-i.com] > > > > Does anyone have a hi-res scan of the cover and/or back of this CD? > > > > I'd like to print my own artwork for a CD made from MP3, but > > don't have > > anything good enough! > > > > Of course, I'd happily buy an original if I could find one... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: RE: (klf) Bill Drummond: The Man (artwork needed) Date: 15 Jun 2000 09:05:24 +0100 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000242FY/026-8751878-5076812 mid price cd, still availible as a new cd now come on, that took me 30 seconds, surely you won't need that scan of the cover now *grin* dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Mojo [mailto:Mojo@foundation-i.com] > > Does anyone have a hi-res scan of the cover and/or back of this CD? > > I'd like to print my own artwork for a CD made from MP3, but > don't have > anything good enough! > > Of course, I'd happily buy an original if I could find one... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Videos Update (K-FRONT 3) Date: 15 Jun 2000 13:02:28 +0200 > Barbican Gig is whole ***K THE MILLENIUM show recorded by camcoder. > Quality is poor, but if you want to have feeling "I was there" or see it > whole, it's good source. I wouldn't say the quality's "poor". At some points it gets a little fuzzy, but that's just a focus problems of whoever was filming it. On the overall it looks nice, for a amateur footage, but the sound is a little distorted, especially the low fequencies. Killer Low Frequencies :) Now, you have been warned. -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Howard" Subject: (klf) Good day to all Antients Date: 15 Jun 2000 12:55:11 BST Hi all, I am desperately looking for KLF t-shirts, particularly the black one with white text and the Shag! Shag! Shag! one. Any ideas? Many thanks and All Hail Discordia. Marc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill Drummond: The Man (artwork needed) Date: 15 Jun 2000 14:20:13 +0100 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000242FY/026-8751878-5076812 > > > > mid price cd, still availible as a new cd JESUS! Thank you *so* much... I've never been able to find anywhere that'd sell me a copy... didn't even know Amazon did CDs. Fantastic - you've made my day. Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ: 22014792 GROW MORE WEED # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Daw" Subject: Re: (klf) The KLF Videos Update (K-FRONT 3) Date: 15 Jun 2000 18:03:38 +0100 > > Barbican Gig is whole ***K THE MILLENIUM show recorded by camcoder. > > Quality is poor, but if you want to have feeling "I was there" or see it > > whole, it's good source. > > I wouldn't say the quality's "poor". At some points it gets a little > fuzzy, > but that's just a focus problems of whoever was filming it. On the > overall > it looks nice, for a amateur footage, but the sound is a little > distorted, > especially the low fequencies. This must be my camcorder footage that you're talking about. I set the camera on autofocus so that I could concentrate on the gig - that's why it goes a bit fuzzy sometimes as the camera searches for something to focus on. I was amazed that I got away with filming it! I started off trying to be discrcrete but as nobody asked me to stop I just went on and did the whole thing. Funny thing was is that I was standing next to one of the official cameras - I'm sure the video production company must have loads of shots of me filming the thing! The sound is poor - the bass just maxed out the two little mics on my camcorder. I know that a couple of people recorded the audio at the gig - perhaps somebody could re-dub it with a better audio track? I'm glad to see the footage is doing the rounds - at least people who weren't there can get a better idea what it was actually like to be there. Enjoy... Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Video archive Date: 15 Jun 2000 22:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Hi, KLF archive on ftp.pinknet.cz is now ready for you with same user and password. best regards -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Good day to all Antients Date: 15 Jun 2000 14:24:28 +0200 KLF t-shirts are extremely hard to find. A few years back a guy made the whie longsleeved tshirt worn by cressida in the Stadium House Trilogy. I'm also currently in the making of a KLF-tshirt, black with the Pyramid Blaster one the fron breast and 'KLF Communications' on the back. Stay tuned for more info on the tshirts...they'll soon go into production - Thomas ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:55 PM > > Hi all, > > I am desperately looking for KLF t-shirts, particularly the black one with > white text and the Shag! Shag! Shag! one. > > Any ideas? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nickannan Subject: (klf) bill's been busy Date: 16 Jun 2000 03:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Hi long time lurker here just posting with some bill news. yesterday the below pic appeared in my local paper (evening telegraph in Dundee, Scotland) i was well suprised cause it is a very 'local' paper. seems bill has been travelling around the UK putting up posters advertising the sale of teh richard long artwork he owns 'the smell of sulphur in teh wind' the scan is pretty poor, but if someone needs a better one to put up somewhere let me know. http://www.geocities.com/nickannan/kush/bill.html nick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) new homeboy in town Date: 16 Jun 2000 12:36:06 +0200 http://search.mp3.com/bin/search/?query=KLF&submit=Search%21 -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: (klf) Atomic Kitten Date: 16 Jun 2000 20:50:39 +0100 Just to confirm, I had a look at the promo copy of the new Atomic Kitten single "I Want Your Love" at my Uni radio station. That's the one that has the Justified and Ancient Sample on it. It has been licensed, as Drummond, Cauty and Lyte are all given writing credits and the sample is listed as well. So that's cleared that up! Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RobertStringerR@aol.com Subject: (klf) New email address: rmstringer@jas.net Date: 16 Jun 2000 16:17:25 EDT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (klf) 3 am SSL demo Date: 16 Jun 2000 16:15:05 -0700 Hello... A while ago, someone in the UK made a generous offer to distribute several KLF bootleg CD compilations, essentially at cost. I took him up on it, and offered to do the same, for listmembers in the US. So, I'm finally getting around to it... ;) The compilations are the infamous Mike Dutton's (boo, hiss, don't ever send him money, *ever*): Arkive Arkive 2 White Room OST Waiting (some more) (see below for tracklistings) In the spirit of the original offer, I'll do these at cost, or for blanks for the first two respondents (from the US), if they are willing to do the same in turn. I'm also willing to do any number of regular trades for anyone else who is interested in these items. I'm particularly interested in the Made at 3am Coming Off E bootleg that was recently put into circulation, but I have a fairly wide variety of interests...and am open to trading in general... ;) Thanks again, Simon! Chris np: Die Warzau - Engine ========== The tracklistings: > ARKIVE 1 > > KSTJ - Remix Remix 1 > WTIL - Monster Attack > J&A - Demo > WTIL - Land of Oz > LTTT - Gridlock > WTIL - Live in Liverpool > KLF Slow The Beats > LTTT - Original > Rites of Mu - Original Soundtrack > Madrugada Eterna - Video 303 Edit Mix > 3AME - KLF vs ENT TOTP > WTIL - Acid > > ARKIVE 2 > > KSTJ - Remix Remix 2 > 3AME/White Room - Primal Demo > WTIL - Techno Slam > Brooklyn New York > IGUN - Grey Vinyl > WTIL - Power Remix > 3AME - SSL Demo > Build A Fire - Lenny Dee > Alex vs The KLF - Mix II > Disco 2000 - One Love Nation - Hot Trax > WTIL - Echo & Bunnymen > LTTT - Benio Over & Out > > WHITE ROOM OST > > Kylie Said To Jason > 3AM Eternal > Go To Sleep > Make It Rain > Church Of The KLF > No More Tears > Build A Fire > The Lovers Side > The White Room > Born Free > Film/Mix Outtake No. 1 > Film/Mix Outtake No. 2 > Film/Mix Outtake No. 3 > Film/Mix Outtake No. 4 > Kylie Said To Jason (7" version) > > WAITING (SOME MORE) > > Waiting OST > This Is Not What The KLF Is About (from Stadium House video) > WTIL - Power Remix (again!!) > WTIL - Pure Trance Mix 2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) OT: Glastonbury Date: 16 Jun 2000 20:00:34 +0100 (BST) A few days ago there was a discussion about KLF listmembers going to Glastonbury, something to do with a big tent with "23" on the side, that kind of thing. Because I didn't think I'd be going, I deleted the thread. Now, in a sudden change of plan I _am_ now going to the Glastonbury festival (as of next Friday) so if there are any listmembers going who've considered bumping into each other, if they felt like e-mailling me (or the list) the details again that would be much appreciated. Cheers. Oh and don't forget to check out the Utah Saints appearance in the dance tent on Friday night. Sorry for the off-topic intrusion. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) OT: Glastonbury Date: 17 Jun 2000 08:52:49 +0200 (CEST) On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Stuart Bruce wrote: > Now, in a sudden change of plan I _am_ now going to the Glastonbury > festival (as of next Friday) so if there are any listmembers going http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/ http://www.playlouder.com/glastonbury/ ... and live and on-demand video will be available starting on June 23... -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Shag Times CD Date: 17 Jun 2000 15:15:54 +0200 http://www.lostinmusic.freeserve.co.uk/findcd.html ukp36 -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: (klf) OT: Glastonbury Date: 19 Jun 2000 10:59:00 +0100 Yep, I'm definately going. Basically turning up Thursday afternoon around 5:00pm-ish. We have a flag with 'The Tunes' written on either side. Not sure what I'm doing straight away, but I'm definately up for a few beers if anyone is interested. Let me know and we'll sort something out. I'm taking my mobile, so whoever wants the number can have it. Cheers M cc: (bcc: Mark Silver/CYPHER) A few days ago there was a discussion about KLF listmembers going to Glastonbury, something to do with a big tent with "23" on the side, that kind of thing. Because I didn't think I'd be going, I deleted the thread. Now, in a sudden change of plan I _am_ now going to the Glastonbury festival (as of next Friday) so if there are any listmembers going who've considered bumping into each other, if they felt like e-mailling me (or the list) the details again that would be much appreciated. Cheers. Oh and don't forget to check out the Utah Saints appearance in the dance tent on Friday night. Sorry for the off-topic intrusion. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) We will rock you Date: 19 Jun 2000 20:05:53 +0200 The UK boy group 5ive (www.5ive.co.uk) will release a new single called "We will rock you" on the 10th of july, 2000. It is a cover of the Queen classic song and it may contain a remix by Jimmy Cauty... -- Torsten Pattberg Visit KLF ONLINE at www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rikki Price Subject: (klf) RE: klf-digest V2 #338 Date: 19 Jun 2000 13:55:17 +0100 I've got a bunch of t-shirts going spare, including this one. I'll fish out what I've got tonight and mail the list tomorrow... Hi all, I am desperately looking for KLF t-shirts, particularly the black one with white text and the Shag! Shag! Shag! one. Any ideas? Many thanks and All Hail Discordia. Marc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Magick Temple" Subject: (klf) The Rain Parade??? Date: 20 Jun 2000 23:22:13 +0100 Hi A friend of mine mentioned that there was 'some connection' between the KLF and a band called 'The Rain Parade'. I'm afraid I've never heard of them... can anyone enlighten me as to the band/connection... also does anyone know where I can find MP3s of them? Cheers all Mag xxxxx DISCORDIAN PROMOTIONS http://www.discordian.co.uk ICQ: 22014792 GROW MORE WEED # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (klf) Kalevala, Penkiln-Burn & Crapolar Date: 21 Jun 2000 01:37:24 +0100 Well I was bored, so I started browsing various web sites that have been threatening to blossom for a long time (I know some of this has been discussed before), so... Kalevala & Penkiln-Burn "All the above artists plus the progressive rock band Gurmenghast appear on the un-released soundtrack album 'Huono Viisaus'. Also as yet still un-released are albums by Kristina Bruuk, The Fuckers and the experimental techno duo, High End World Receiver. If all this Kaleval info seems irrelevant please refer to 'The Winner Takes It All' and 'The Number Fourteen' stories in the book 45. If not, wait until the above listed albums are made available via shop@penkiln-burn.com" Does anyone believe the above??? We've been waiting for the soundtrack album for yonks!! Has anyone e-mailed info@penkiln-burn.com yet & what did they say was being released soon??? Crapolar Records Are they releasing anything yet?? www.crapolarrecords.com now features a different tune (from when I last remember visiting the site) which samples heavily from The Beatles' "Hard Days Night".... BTW, www.5ive.co.uk doesn't seem to exisit, so I can't confirm if Cauty did do a remix... What I can say is that the single (according to Queen's website www.queenworld.com) is coming out on July 17th! Intrigued! Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) The White Room Film Date: 21 Jun 2000 13:38:47 GMT hello there, I just d/l The White Room movie. It's quite a nice movie. But, who is that guy in the beginning in the car with whom bill is signing papers? And whats it about? Could it be linked with the Liberation Loophole? Could any one of you explain that? cheers, maarten ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Howard" Subject: (klf) The White Room Date: 21 Jun 2000 14:53:19 BST Can someone tell me where I can download the White Room movie from? Many thanks. Marc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Alice Cooper Date: 22 Jun 2000 00:50:00 +0200 probably old news for some of you but I have noticed today that Ian Richardson and Nick Coler are credited as "british backing vocal gang" on Alice Cooper's "Hey Stoopid" album. -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas Touzimsky" Subject: (klf) E-Train Date: 21 Jun 2000 21:59:08 +0200 Hi, wanted to ask if there were real existing copies of E-Train to Trancentral. The discography lists this item as "never released", but there are so many KLF items that were never officially released, so what about this one? And if it was released, any idea where to get it? (real vinyl or mp3 as well) c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) We will rock you Date: 22 Jun 2000 02:04:07 +0200 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:05 PM > The UK boy group 5ive (www.5ive.co.uk) will release a new single called "We > will rock you" on the 10th of july, 2000. It is a cover of the Queen classic > song and it may contain a remix by Jimmy Cauty... The Cauty remix will probably not be on the disc because it is "to heavy"... -- Torsten Pattberg Visit KLF ONLINE at www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (klf) The White Room Date: 21 Jun 2000 16:49:46 +0100 and me, 'cos it's not of the pinknet ftp server anymore, and i was gonna d/l it today! :-< cheers, --- Smiley > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Marc Howard > Sent: 21 June 2000 15:53 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) The White Room > > > > Can someone tell me where I can download the White Room movie from? > > Many thanks. > > Marc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Havener" Subject: (klf) the white room Date: 21 Jun 2000 12:14:38 -0500 Hey, I just discovered this list, and was wondering, where can one d/l "the white room"? Thanks, Jeff > > hello there, > > I just d/l The White Room movie. It's quite a nice movie. > But, who is that guy in the beginning in the car with whom bill is signing > papers? And whats it about? Could it be linked with the Liberation Loophole? > Could any one of you explain that? > > cheers, > maarten __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Grundy" Subject: Re: (klf) The White Room Film Date: 22 Jun 2000 09:15:19 BST Hi I'm new to this list and was intrigued about the possibility of downloading the 'The White Room'. Can anyone tell me where I can get it from. Regards joyrider >From: "Maarten Bouwes" >To: klf@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (klf) The White Room Film >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:38:47 GMT > > >hello there, > >I just d/l The White Room movie. It's quite a nice movie. >But, who is that guy in the beginning in the car with whom bill is signing >papers? And whats it about? Could it be linked with the Liberation >Loophole? >Could any one of you explain that? > >cheers, >maarten ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) The White Room Film Date: 22 Jun 2000 10:29:09 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Alex Grundy wrote: > I'm new to this list and was intrigued about the possibility of downloading > the 'The White Room'. > Can anyone tell me where I can get it from. Please, wait several weeks or month and I'll upload it again on server. (Somebody was waiting years for this movie, so week or month...) -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: (klf) My webpage Date: 22 Jun 2000 11:48:35 PDT Hello I have done som major uppdates on my page and will not be able to work on it for some time so i anounse it unfinisht. http://uddis.linuxgods.com I also se that several people wanted the white rom witsh is there. You need the login mastersofstadiumhouse , pleese dont report it on any search engine. Grate thanks to everybody who has helpt me, you know who you are;-) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) brits cartoon :) Date: 23 Jun 2000 01:19:09 +0200 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/brit_awards/britmap.htm -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) i have white room movie Date: 22 Jun 2000 14:46:41 +0100 hello all, i saw some people asking for the white room movie on the list. i have the white room movie which i downloaded a while ago when it was on alex's server. i burned it on a 700mb cd with some other cool klf stuff which includes the 'klf at brit awards' movie clip, info, pics, interviews, etc email me privately if you want a copy, we'll sort something out. regards, Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) brits cartoon :) Date: 22 Jun 2000 06:31:34 +0200 hehe, they wrote 'Jimmy Cauty of the KLF' but it's Bill in the picture... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/brit_awards/britmap.htm David A. [playing -> Sunscreem - Love U More] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten" Subject: (klf) Re: Brits cartoon Date: 23 Jun 2000 11:43:44 +0200 I thought that Bill didn't smoked at all and that Jimmy is the one who's smoking a lot.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) brits cartoon :) Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:47:04 +0100 (BST) Just a shame it calls Bill "Jimmy" in the caption really ... Culf. On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/brit_awards/britmap.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (klf) brits cartoon :) Date: 23 Jun 2000 10:52:05 +0100 I have to say, it looks more like a young Cliff Richard to me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Brits cartoon Date: 23 Jun 2000 07:09:18 PDT >I thought that Bill didn't smoked at all and that Jimmy is the one who's >smoking a lot.... > > Yeah but Bill had the gun right? Chad Gombosi Member SCP http://omocha.shc.uiowa.edu/scp Chad's Game Music Page http://chadsgamemusic.webjump.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Date: 23 Jun 2000 17:08:50 GMT Hello all, Recently, i have received quite a few mails concerning The White Room movie. A friend of mine d/l it, and i received it last week because he forgot all about the cd. The d/l was from may the 7th! Anyways, i don't happen to know where to d/l a version now, but Adam would upload it again and if i am correct, ollie had a copy and he could arrange things (correct me if i am wrong). That's all folks ;) Cheers, Maarten ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Courtney Sloan Subject: (klf) music from credits of stadium house Date: 23 Jun 2000 13:30:56 -0400 Where is this available? Thanks! Love, Courtney # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Re: Brits cartoon Date: 24 Jun 2000 00:19:00 +0100 > I thought that Bill didn't smoked at all and that Jimmy is the one who's > smoking a lot.... I'm sure I remember from the photos he had a big cigar in his mouth at some point in the Brits proceedings. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: Re: Re: (klf) Re: Brits cartoon Date: 23 Jun 2000 17:14:36 GMT ----Original Message Follows---- Reply-To: signofzeta@hotmail.com >I thought that Bill didn't smoked at all and that Jimmy is the one who's >smoking a lot.... > > Yeah but Bill had the gun right? Chad Gombosi >>Isn't that a champagne bottle? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) penkiln-burn.com Date: 23 Jun 2000 19:01:14 +0200 Here are the complete contents of the penkiln-burn site for your offline reading pleasure. Best viewed in courier new. Sorry for the lengthyness of the post, but it's all very interesting. :-) erik ------------------- webmaster@klf.cx http://www.klf.cx http://www.penkiln-burn.com june 21, 2000 Contents Job List Bibliography Appendices Notices Job List 1 The Penkiln Burn 2 Bill Drummond 3 To The Shores Of Lake Placid 4 Kali V Ted 5 Job Five 6 45 7 Charles McCauley Passing Paul Graham A Cup Of Tea 8 Map Reading And Rows 9 I Will Love You Forever 10 Do Something About It 11 Tim Strickland's All-Time Favourite Long-Playing Record 12 Rock 'n' Roll I Gave You All The Good Years Of My Life 13 Potential 14 Delivered 15 All Dead Day Is... 16 Overstock 17 Catalogue 18 MyDeath.net 19 My Coffin 20 Bomb Mount Sinai [Job 1] THE PENKILN BURN The Penkiln Burn is a small river in the southwest of Scotland. It rises in the Galloway Hills at the Nick of Curleywee. It tumbles and turns for eight and a half miles, passing on the way Sheuchan Craig, Lamachan, Glen Shallock, Auchenleck, Garlies Castles and Cumloden before it flows into the River Cree at the village of Minnigaff. On page 25 of the 1999 Ellipsis catalogue the following three paragraphs were printed: When Bill Drummond is dead and burnt he has requested that his ashes be flung into the Penkiln Burn. This flinging is to be done from a large boulder, marked 'Penkiln Burn Boulder One', which is to be found on the western bank of the burn, 428 yards above Queen Mary's Bridge. The Penkiln Burn flows into the River Cree. The Cree flows into the Solway Firth. The Solway Firth washes into the Irish Sea. The Irish Sea is welcomed into the Atlantic Ocean. The Atlantic Ocean is big. Until Bill Drummond is dead and burnt all his work completed after the date 29 April 1998 will be initially produced and marketed under the Penkiln Burn trademark. Each of these works is dedicated to the eels that will swim with his ashes as they return to the ocean. Most of this is true. The Penkiln Burn is also Penkiln Burn Job One [Job 2] BILL DRUMMOND Bill Drummond is a man. He was born in Butterworth, Transkei, South Africa on 29 April 1953. His family moved back to Scotland in 1954 to a small town in Galloway called Newton Stewart. In 1964 the Drummonds moved south to Corby, a steel town in the English East Midlands. Between the years 1970 and 1973 he attended art school in Northampton and Liverpool. Since leaving art school Bill Drummond has worked hard. The lasting physical traces of Bill Drummond are: 1 The Man, a long-playing record released by Creation in 1986. 2 The Manager, a short film shot in November 1986 by Bill Butt. 3 A photograph taken by Marc Atkins. This photograph is the portrait of Bill Drummond for the year 2000. The first love of Bill Drummond's life was the Penkiln Burn. [Job 3] TO THE SHORES OF LAKE PLACID To the shores of Lake Placid is an imaginary journey that took place inside the head of Bill Drummond. The journey started 24 August 1978 and ended on 12 May 1986. The documentation of this job is as yet incomplete. So far, the evidence of this journey taking place is: 1 The cover of the 7-inch single Pictures On My Wall by Echo and the Bunnymen (Zoo, Cage 004), released 5 May 1979. 2 The front cover of the LP Crocodiles by Echo and the Bunnymen (Korova, Kode 1), released 18 July 1980. 3 The front cover of the LP Heaven Up Here by Echo and the Bunnymen (Korova, Kode 3), released 30 May 1981. 4 The front cover of the LP Porcupine by Echo and the Bunnymen (Korova, Kode 6), released 4 February 1983. 5 The front cover of the LP Ocean Rain by Echo and the Bunnymen (Korova, Kode 8), released 4 May 1984. [note: 6 was missing on the actual web page] 7 To The Shores Of Lake Placid soundtrack LP featuring the original cast (Zoo Four), released in 1982. The liner notes read 'The music on this record has been taken from the play To The Shores Of Lake Placid which ran from 24 August 1978 and will close at Eric's on November 15, 1983.' The facts that it was defined as a play and that it would end on November 15 1983, as it turned out, were both inaccurate. 8 One hundred invitations to READ 20 posters crammed with text (Penkiln Burn Invitation Four). 9 The remains and photographic documentation of three sets of Penkiln Burn Posters 1-20, flyposted around the city centre streets of Liverpool in late November 1998 as part of the Blue Coat Gallery exhibition 'Glitter'. 10Squeeze My Lemons Baby (Poster 21) pinned to the wall of the gallery for the duration of the 'Glitter' show. Then stolen. 11From The Shores Of Lake Placid & Other Stories (Penkiln Burn Book One) published in 1998 in an edition of 500 - sold out. 12From The Shores Of Lake Placid and all the other stories published in Book One appear in the 12-inch version of 45, but only From The Shores Of Lake Placid and not all the other stories in the 7-inch version of 45. [Job 4] KALI v TED Kali v Ted is trouble in the mind, war in the head. The kind we all have from time to time. The debris from this battle is: 1 One hundred invitations to SHOW YOUR HAND at the first Mavericks Writers and Film Festival (Penkiln Burn Invitation One). 2 A trail of 98 paper planes stretching from one side of the Indian sub-continent to the other, from the Arabian Sea to the Bay Of Bengal. These 98 paper planes were launched from a second-class window on the Howrah Mail Express between 8.15 p.m. on 5 March 1998 and 7.52 a.m. on 7 March 1998. The Howrah Mail travels from Bombay to Calcutta. The 98 paper planes were made from pages torn from a copy of Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes. 3 The hardback covers of Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes from which the pages have been torn. 4 Trinkets and cheap prints purchased around and about the Temple of Kali in Calcutta on 7 March 1998. 5 One hundred invitations to HEAR Bill Drummond present his annual report (Penkiln Burn Invitation Two). 6 Annual Report to the Mavericks Writers and Film Festival (Penkiln Burn Book Two) published 1998 in an edition of 500 - sold out. 7 The stories included in Annual Report are featured in the 12-inch version of 45. But not in the commercially available 7-inch version. Kali v Ted is a thing of the past now that Ted's dead. [Job 5] JOB 5 Job Five is about how things just don't stop, won't let go, keep on knocking. You think you've got to the end, got it nailed, buried the box, destroyed the evidence, but no, it's never that simple. This is what's left and what may happen: 1 A Smell of Sulphur In The Wind, a work by the artist Richard Long, currently hanging in Bill Drummond's bedroom. 2 A stone picked up in Oxford railway station rose garden and flung from the Clifton Suspension Bridge into the Avon on 23 January 1998. 3 A Smell of Money Underground, a short story first published in issue no 413 of the Bristol listings magazine Venue, then again in the 1998 summer edition of Modern Painters, the 12-inch version of 45 and in a slightly edited form in the 7-inch of 45. And finally printed as a text piece, mounted and framed in an identical fashion to A Smell Of Sulphur In The Wind by Richard Long. There will be a lot more bits to be found, flung, pointed out or fashioned, before job five is left to find its own way in life. [Job 6] 45 45 is an age, not an uncommon age, an age most arrive at. For Bill Drummond as the age of 45 was approaching he found himself with the urge to write down stories. He knew this urge was not to do with the mid-life crisis thing - he had done that at the age of 39. As these stories piled up he thought they might make a book. 45 is also the title for Penkiln Book Three. This is one of the shortest stories in the book. FORTY FIVE TODAY 29 April 1998 In 1986 I recorded a long-playing record entitled The Man. It was released by Creation Records. It was a very personal record. All the songs dealt with my life and my emotions at that point in time. It was done to mark the end of one period of my life. I was 33.3 years old. Time for a revolution, I thought. I was leaving pop music behind to start writing books. I promised myself I would not have any further involvement with music until I reached the age of 45, when I would make one single 45 rpm 7-inch record. My promise was never kept. Like that dog, I returned. As I entered my 45th year, I decided to write a book that contained snapshots of the world from where I was standing. The stories span a period from early in my 45th year to well into being 45. I will read them again if I get to the age of 78. If this book gets written, this page may act as an introduction. This is the shortest. MY P45 Last night I was on the phone to friend and poet Paul Simpson. He was telling me what he'd been up to: fatherhood, words and dreaming - the usual things. And I had been telling him what I'd been up to: fatherhood, words and nightmares - the usual things. 'So why are you using 45 as a title, Bill?' I explained all about handguns, 1745, 7-inch records and my dad. 'Oh, I thought it might be because you were frightened that somebody was going to tell you to collect your P45.' It made me think. The book was completed on 12 January 1999. A dummy copy of the book was bound and exhibited in an exhibition called 'Dummy' in Belfast (May 1999) and New York (September 1999). A further four similar copies were printed and bound in summer 1999. These five copies are the 12-inch edition. They are not for sale, but do form part of the Foundry's permanent library. The Foundry is a pub on Great Eastern Street, Shoreditch, London. You are more than welcome to visit The Foundry and browse one of the five copies while having a quiet drink. Gimpo, the publican at The Foundry would rather this browsing was done from Tuesday to Saturday from 1pm - 5pm, on Sundays from 2pm - 5pm and not at all on Mondays. The American publisher, Little Brown, licensed the book from Penkiln Burn and generously edited it from 147,067 words down to 111,536 words, in doing so removing a number of the less pertinent stories. This, the 7-inch version of 45, it was published in March 2000. There is also a free sampler edition of 5000 copies of the book. This was available at selected bookshops throughout the UK. This sampler is considered to be a marketing tool, encouraging casual browsers to buy the 7-inch version. It contains 6458 words and is made up of snippets from the 7-inch version. [Job 7] CHARLES McCAULEY PASSING PAUL GRAHAM A CUP OF TEA Charles McAuley passing Paul Graham a cup of tea is something that Bill Drummond hoped would happen, but didn't. It is also the sum of the corroding and evolving memories of a number of people who gathered together at College Green House, Belfast, Northern Ireland on the evening of 6 May 1998 to break bread, sup soup and eat plum crumble. Satellite objects to this non passing of a cup of tea are: 1 A picture painted by Charles McAuley in the 1930s now hanging in the Curfew Tower. 2 xxxxxxx and xxxxxxxxx, two large framed photographs by Paul Graham hanging in a home counties farmhouse front room. 3 One hundred invitations to DIG A HOLE and then consider why you dug it. This was Penkiln Burn Invitation Two and was posted to various people living in and around Belfast in the week before 6 May 1998. 4 Some photos taken by somebody in Belfast on 6 May 1998. The photos document the making and supping of the soup. 5 Thirty-one pebbles picked up on the beach of Murlough Bay on 6 May 1998, now sitting in a row on top of a kitchen dresser in order of descending size. One pebble has since been lost. 6 A large wooden spoon, signed by all the people who broke the bread and supped the soup. This spoon is now being used to prop up a large ailing tropical pot plant in the front room of the top flat of College Green House. 7 Making Soup (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Five) an edition of 1000 published in 1999. This pamphlet is available to guests at College Green House. The story also appears in both the 12- and 7-inch versions of 45. [Job 8] MAP READING AND ROWS Map Reading And Rows is a collaboration between Kate Drummond, her brother James Drummond and their father Bill Drummond. It takes the form of a collection of family outings. These outings began in 1998. So far (April 2000) there have been four of them. Kate and James Drummond were both born in the maternity ward of the now closed Royal Buckinghamshire Hospital, Aylesbury, Kate on 8 October 1984 and James on 21 January 1987. An idea evolved between the three collaborators in early 1998. For the idea to be realised required them to have two pencils, a notebook, a compass, a loaded camera, a pile of carefully selected 1:25,000 scale maps ordered from Stanfords in Long Acre, London, a road-worthy vehicle and a tight budget. The idea was to start a journey from the steps of the Royal Bucks' Hospital and head south. Bill Drummond would drive. Kate Drummond would have one pencil and read the first map and James Drummond would have the other pencil, the notebook, the compass and the loaded camera. Kate Drummond would navigate them down the highways and byways closest to the exact longitude on which her and her brother first entered this world. At every point that the highways or byways crissed or crossed that longitude Kate Drummond would tell her father to pull up. James Drummond would then get out of the vehicle with the compass and camera and take a photo of due south. He would then climb back into the vehicle, make a note in the notebook with one of the pencils, logging and numbering what he had snapped. Kate, using the other pencil, would put the number and time on the map where the longitude was crissed or crossed. When the first map was traversed, Kate and James would swap duties. Their father would keep driving. The first of these outings started early on 30 July 1998 and reached the south coast of England just west of Selsey Bill at 7.39 pm on the same day. The second outing started at 8.15 a.m. on 12 August 1998 and began on the Normandy beaches near Bayeux (as in tapestry) and reached Arette La Pierre St-Martin on the Spanish border high in the Pyrenees at 9.37 a.m. on 16 August 1998. In 1999, they evolved their idea. Instead of continuing their journey south, they headed east. Starting again from the steps of the Royal Bucks' Hospital, but this time east along the latitude of 51o 49.25' north of the equator using the same methods of documentation and job demarcation. The third outing began at 10.32 a.m. on 4 June 1999 and ended at Clacton-on-Sea on the same day at 7.38 p.m. The fourth outing started at 11.28 a.m. on 1 August 1999 and began on the beach near a village called Ouddorp on the Dutch coast and ended on a river bank on the German-Polish border near a village called Horno at 7.15 p.m. on 5 August 1999. In the summer of 2000 they plan to restart their journey south from where they stopped high in the Pyrenees and ending near Cartagena on the Mediterranean Coast. In the summer of 2001 they plan to begin their outing at the other side of the river on the German-Polish border and drive until they reach the Belarus border. And in this manner they will, bit by bit, draw an unsteady line down the longitude of 0o 48.84' West of Greenwich and around the latitude of 51o 49.25' north of the equator. Kate Drummond plays the drums. James Drummond plays the guitar and sings. Dad Drummond plays the bass. In 1999 Kate and James wrote two songs while heading east. The songs were called 'Clacton-on-Sea' and 'Smash It'. They recorded these two songs on 26 October 1999 in a small studio in Leicester called Memphis. They will write and record a song or two each year until Map Reading And Rows is completed. Then they will release the whole lot as an album. As yet they do not have a name for this band. The bits and pieces are: 1 Three worn-down pencils. 2 Four filled notebooks. 3 A pile of maps. Each with an unsteady pencil line drawn from north to south or west to east. 4 A pebble picked up on the beach near Ouddorp in Holland and flung across a river near Horno in Germany. 5 187 photographs. 6 The diesel fumes in the atmosphere generated by combustion of =C9=C9=C9 litres of diesel fuel. 7 A DAT tape containing the two songs. This collaboration will only be completed if the rows don't outweigh the map reading. [Job 9] ALL INFORMATION REGARDING JOB NINE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN [Job 10] DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT Doing something about it is about trying to cure oneself of uncontrollable urges that you don't like having. In the case of Bill Drummond, the uncontrollable urge was to own art. The exhibits are: 1 Two badly framed pictures from Stewart Home's 1996 exhibition 'To Transvalue Value'. 2 One framed invoice from the WORKFORTHEEYETODO Gallery, for the sum of =A3100. 3 One framed leaflet by Stewart Home explaining what 'To Transvalue Value' is all about. 4 One hardboard placard about 18 inches wide, standing five feet tall, held in a flimsy metal frame. The hardboard was painted black in some earlier age. On the weathered black board has been daubed in white letters, using the style favoured by greengrocers and fishmongers: In Stock =A37.99 Klee Dufy Macke Klimt Matisse Monet Van Gogh Renoir Picasso Degas. 5 Great Expectations - Parts One, Two and Three (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Eight) an edition of 1000. This pamphlet is available to diners at the Caf=E9 On The Green, Camberwell Green, south London. 6 Six contact sheets of photographs taken by Marc Atkins from the top deck of a number 68 bus on the 9 December 1998. 7 A small print of The Fighting Temperaire Tugged To Her Last Berth To Be Broken Up by Turner. This print was bought at the National Gallery shop on the 9 December 1998. 8 A photograph of Mrs Billingham reclining on her sofa taken by her son Richard. This was the last work of art bought by Bill Drummond before he decided to do something about it. [Job 11] TIM STRICKLAND'S ALL-TIME FAVOURITE LONG-PLAYING RECORD Tim Strickland's all-time favourite long-playing record is about the confused and rushing emotions churned up in Bill Drummond when he learnt that Tim Strickland's all-time favourite long-playing record is Chill Out by The KLF. The KLF was a band Bill Drummond was once in and Chill Out was the long-playing record that The KLF recorded in late 1989. All the material traces of this work were exhibited in the show 'Strictly Personal' at the National Centre for Popular Music, Sheffield, England from 1 March to 6 August 1999. They included: 1 One hundred invitations to LIE DOWN at the National Centre For Popular Music. 2 A pamphlet rack wall mounted in the foyer of the National Centre for Popular Music. The rack contained two types of pamphlets. The first had the words "Where Pop Music Lives- The world's first interactive attraction dedicated to popular music" on its cover, the second was Penkiln Burn Pamphlet One, My Favourite Colour. 3 The LP cover of Chill Out and statement by Tim Strickland on why Chill Out was his all-time favourite long-playing record mounted behind perspex and attached to the gallery wall. 4 A carpet seven foot by seven foot, predominantly black but for the two words 'Lie' and 'Down'. The individual letters of these words had been woven in a creamy grey off white. The carpet was laid on the floor in the centre of the gallery space. 5 A 7 foot by 7 foot poster (Penkiln Burn Poster twenty-two) covered with a block of dense text. Using wallpaper glue, the poster had been stuck on to a board and framed by four lengths of roughly mitred 6 by 2 inch timbers. The text was a story called 3 am Somewhere Out Of Aylesbury. The large and cumbersome piece was hung horizontally from the ceiling of the gallery, eight feet above the floor, text side down. If the gallery visitor would follow the instruction, s/he would lie down on the carpet and, then if so inclined, read the words to '3 am Somewhere Out Of Aylesbury' floating a few feet above them. What's left of the above is now stored in Bill Drummond's garage. [Job 12] ROCK 'N' ROLL I GAVE YOU ALL THE GOOD YEARS OF MY LIFE Rock 'n' Roll I Gave You All The Good Years Of My Life is an example of what happens when you hear about the death of somebody who, though not a close friend, has had a huge impact on the direction of your life. It is about what happens when almost incidentally you hear about his death on the day before the funeral and his funeral is at the other end of the country and you can't go because you have family commitments, so you write a story. Then, because you wrote that story you find yourself building monuments, graffiti-ing walls, writing another story, designing carpets, commissioning branding irons, writing a third story (this time about dying in the trenches of Flanders). And sitting in a police station waiting to be questioned. All of this would not have happened if you'd heard about his death a couple of days earlier, thus giving you time to make arrangements to attend the funeral. These are the things you can see and touch: 1 Brutality, Religion And A Dance Beat (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Three), published May 1999 in an edition of 1000. 2 Yeah, The Ugly Bwoy Burns (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Four), published August 1999 in an edition of 1000. 3 Dead White Man, a monument built of Oxford limestone, English oak, Welsh slate and four rods of iron. The monument takes the form of a free-standing stack of shelves to house the dead man's record collection. 4 Four carpets made to size and arranged around the base of Dead White Man. 5 A set of branding irons made by Roger Mildred and Paul Thurkettle at the Mentmore Smithy. 6 One hundred invitations to the UNVEILING of Dead White Man, at the Motor Body Repair Centre, Liverpool. 7 17 Forever (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Nine), published December 1999 in an edition of 1000. [Job 13] POTENTIAL Potential is about the potential damage, infamy, dinner-party small talk and barroom debate that can be caused by 1000 sledgehammers let loose into society without a proper job (like hammering stakes into the ground). What there will be to look at is: 1 Joe Pluto In The Rifle Cabinets, a work by the Liverpool artist Luke Walsh. 2 Just Ask, a short story printed and framed as a text piece and to be hung next to Joe Pluto In The Rifle Cabinets. 3 A sledgehammer leaning on the wall next to Joe Pluto In The Rifle Cabinets (Penkiln Burn Sledgehammer One). 4 Nine hundred and ninety-nine sledgehammers waiting to be sold (Penkiln Burn sledgehammers two-1000). The sledgehammers will be sold for a tenner each on a strictly first come first served basis. You will be informed in good time as to where and when Potential will be launched. [Job 14] DELIVERED Delivered is a work generated by some of the emotions a 46-year-old man has for his 86-year-old father. These are the bits: 1 Here's Tae Melrose And Other Poems by Jack Drummond (Penkiln Burn Book Four), published December 1999 in an edition of 1000. Here's Tae Melrose And Other Poems by Jack Drummond was first published in xxxx. By xxxxxxxx Press. But the Penkiln Burn edition contains XX poems, The xxxxxx Press edition only contained xx poems. 2 My Dad (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet Ten), published December 1999 in an edition of 1000. 3 A small wooden box containing the original copies of all the poems included in Here's Tae Melrose... For Delivered to be completed Bill Drummond will have to deliver a copy of Here's Tae Melrose... and My Dad to every household in the small Scottish border town of Melrose and then bury the box at the top of a hill at the back of the town. [Job 15] ALL DEAD DAY IS... All Dead Day Is... For the price of a t-shirt it can be about your death as well as the death of 999 other people who also bought a similar t-shirt. It is about wondering when you are going to die and how. And in the future it will be about the celebration of the day on which the last of the 1000 people who bought the t-shirts died. What we will have is: 1 1000 as yet unnamed people waiting to die. Each one of the 1000 will be wanting to live longer than the others. It's a human race to see who dies last. 2 1000 t-shirts waiting to be bought by the 1000 people waiting to die. Each of the t-shirts boldly proclaims the statement 'Not Yet Dead' See forsale@penkiln-burn.com (job 20) for details. 3 A block of granite (800 mm x 800 mm) roughly cut into a cube with the words 'All Dead Day Is ...' chiselled into its front face. On the other five faces of the block of granite the names and dates of death of the 1000 people waiting to die will be chiselled on in order as each one dies. This block of granite is Penkiln Burn Monument Three. 4 Who Dies Last? (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet 13). This pamphlet is currently only available at the reception desk of The Milton Keynes Gallery. All dead day is... will be launched on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month 2000. At a location yet to be announced. [Job 16] OVERSTOCK Overstock is a about what to do when you get carried away with making a record and when it's released the world doesn't want to know. Recommended background reading to make Overstock more readily understood are the stories Thrashed, Wheelchairs and Now That's What I Call Disillusionment 2. All three of these stories are included in both the 7 and 12-inch versions of 45. Right now there are only to bits to this work: 1 Thrashed, Wheelchairs and Now That's What I Call Disillusionment 2 are three short stories included in both the seven and twelve-inch versions of 45. 2 A copy of Music Week dated xxxxx 1997. Music Week is the British Music Industries weekly trade magazine. Every week it publishes the top 100 singles. In this particular issue 'Fuck The Millenium' by 2K can be seen to be stiffing at 28. 3 A video cassette in Bill Drummond's work room containing the prommotional clip for Fuck The Millenium. 4 Paint Them Black (Penkiln Burn Pamphlet 14) Currently unavailable. 5 Space at the bottom of the Thames waiting to be filled by a block of concrete. Grid reference will be made public at a later date. [Job 17] CATALOGUE Catalogue is the Penkiln Burn website. It exists to document all activities, by products and works found, carried out, or produced under the Penkiln Burn logo. It was to be officially opened on 29 April 2000 but didn't go on-line until 24 May 2000. Very few of the jobs are complete. The entrants will be updated as new information and evidence becomes available. [Job 18] MyDeath.net MyDeath.net is another website. This particular website is to be launched as part of the Cathedral Quarter Arts Festival, Belfast on 31 May 2000. [Job 19] MY COFFIN Currently under construction. [20] BOMB MOUNT SINAI Bomb Mount Sinai is the title at the top of Penkiln Burn Poster 29. The following text is the text that appears on the poster. It almost explains everything. READ [http://www.penkiln-burn.com/bomb.jpg] What it didn't explain was that The Bomb is a Nottingham Night Club and that on 28 February 2000, John Hewitt promoted a special evening of events at The Bomb to raise money for his walk to Mount Sinai. It was on this evening that John Hewitt stuck up the poster, took a photo of it and left it there for two hours. A substantial number of the 99 For Sale copies of Penkiln Burn Poster 29 were sold on the night. A few are left and will be available via shop@penkiln-burn.com Penkiln Burn Poster 34 is a special brail version of Bomb Mount Sinai. It is an edition of ten. These too are for sale with all proceeds going to Guide Dogs For The Blind, but this time they are being sold at the rather more prohibitive price of =A31,000 each. Bibliography 1 Books 2 Pamphlets 3 Posters [Bibliography 1] BOOKS None of the Penkiln Burn books are available through the usual commercial outlets. Book OneFrom the Shores of Lake Placid and Other Stories published in August 1998 in an edition of 500 (sold out). It is part of To the Shores of Lake Placid (job 3). Book TwoAnnual Report to Mavericks Writers and Film Festival published in October 1998 in an edition of 500 (sold out). It is part of 'Kali V Ted' (job 4). Book 45 is part of (job 6) also named 45. Published in Three June 1999 in an edition of five (not for sale). Book Here's Tae Melrose' by Jack Drummond. Published in Four December 1999 in an edition of 1000 to be distributed freely to every household in the Scottish border town of Melrose. It is part of Delivered (job 14). [Bibliography 2] PAMPHLETS All of the Penkiln Burn pamphlets have been published for individual occasions or are site specific or both. Other than My Favourite Colour all have been limited to print runs of 1000. The majority are connected in some way with one of the numbered jobs. Three of them contain text that also appears in the 12 inch version of 45. They all contain short stories written by Bill Drummond. Pamphlet One 'My Favourite Colour published in March 1999 as part of 'Tim Strickland's all-time favourite long playing record' (job 11) Pamphlet Two I Love Easy Jet published in 1999. This is only available in the kitchen of The Curfew Tower, Cushendall, County Antrim, Northern Ireland and occasionally on the Easy Jet desk at Luton Airport. It takes the form of a laminated A4 sheet. On one side there is nothing but the pure orange livery colour of Easy Jet. On the other is the text to the story. Anybody who finds themselves in possession of one of these pamphlets is requested, after reading it themselves, to deposit it in the magazine pouch in front of them the next time they travel Easy Jet. This pamphlet is not connected to any other work, but is connected to something called 'In You We Trust'. Pamphlet Brutality, Religion And A Dance Beat. Three Published in 1999 and is part of 'Rock'n'Roll I Gave You All the Good Years of My Life' (job 12). Pamphlet FourYeah, Ugly Buoy Burns published in 1999 and is also part of 'Rock'n'Roll I Gave You All the Good Years of My Life' (job 12). Pamphlet FivePress Release published in November 1999. This pamphlet was written and published to be the press release for the record 'I Wanna One 2 One With You' by Solid Gold Chartbusters. It was indiscriminately distributed in CD racks of record shops around the UK. Pamphlet Six Making Soup written in 1998 but not published until late 1999. It is only available from the windowsill halfway up the stairs of College Greenhouse, College Green, Belfast. It is also part of 'Charlie McAuley Passing Paul Graham A Cup Of Tea' (job 7). As a story Making Soup appears in both the 7 inch and 12 inch versions of 45, but it is only in the pamphlet form that all the characters' names have been spelt correctly. Pamphlet Lies has been withdrawn from circulation. Seven Pamphlet Great Expectations, like Pamphlet Six, was Eight written in 1998, but not published until late 1999. It is only available at the Caf=E9 on The Green, Camberwell Green, London. It contains three interrelated stories, the first, and longest, also appears in both the 7 and 12 of 45. This pamphlet is also part of 'Doing Something About It' (job 10). Pamphlet Nine17 Forever published in November 1999. It is the third and final pamphlet related to 'Rock'n'Roll I Gave You All The Good Years Of My Life' (job 12). It is available to anybody that attended the unveiling of 'Dead White Man'. Pamphlet Ten My Dad. Published December 1999. It is only available to the occupants of households in Melrose, a small town in the Scottish borders. It is part of 'Delivered' (job 14). Pamphlet Lavatory published February 2000. All copies Eleven are being indiscriminately distributed in gentlemen's public lavatories around the globe. Pamphlet Who Dies Last. Further information to follow. Twelve Pamphlet Paint Them Black. Further information to Thirteen follow. Pamphlet The Birth Of Death. Further information to Fourteen follow. Pamphlet Prove Me Wrong. Further information to follow. Fifteen Pamphlet For Sale. Further information to follow. Sixteen There are more pamphlets to come. [Bibliography 3] POSTERS The Penkiln Posters are a mixed bag. There are good ones and there are shite ones. There are big ones and there are small ones. There are one-off ones and there are mass-produced ones. These are them: Poster One to Black text on pale cream paper. 60 x 40 inch. Twenty Published as a set in August 1998 for the exhibition 'Glitter' at the Bluecoat Gallery, Liverpool. Edition of five. Three of the sets were flyposted around Liverpool. Text to the story From The Shores Of Lake Placid was spread across the 20 posters. See Job 3 for further details. Poster Black text on pale cream paper. 60 x 40 inch. Twentyone Published August 1998 for the exhibition 'Glitter' at the Bluecoat Gallery, Liverpool. Edition of three. One of which was pinned to the wall of the Bluecoat Gallery text to the story Squeeze My Lemons Baby See Job 3 for further details. Poster Black text on white paper. 7 by 7 feet. Twentytwo Published in March 1999. Edition of three. Text is story 3 am Somewhere Out of Aylesbury See Job 11 for further details. Poster Black text on pale cream paper. 60 x 40 inch. Twentythree Published May 1999. Text is story Bingles Snack Bar. Edition of five. Three copies flyposted within ambling distance of The Foundry. See Job 9 for further details. Poster Full colour reproduction of photo taken by Twentyfour Francois Lacrois of graffiti on fence at the junction of Great Eastern Street and Ravey Street. 60 x 40 inch. Published May 1999. Edition of five. Three copies flyposted beside the flyposted copies of Poster Twentythree. See Job 9 for further details. Poster Black text on pale cream paper. 60 x 40 inch. Twentyfive Published May 1999. Text to story No I Didn't, Edition of Five, Three copies of flyposted beside the flyposted copies of posters Twentythree and Twentyfour. See Job 9 for further details. Poster Black text on white paper. 60 x 40 inch. Twentysix Published. Text to story Smell Of Money Underground. Edition of one mounted and framed. See Job 5 for further details. Poster Full colour. 60 x 40 inch. Published July Twentyseven 1999. Text and photo advertising the play Cruel Brittannia. Edition of one thousand, flyposted around London. Poster Black text on white paper. Published February Twentyeight 2000 Text to I Could Fuckin' Do Better Than That. Edition of one hundred. See or visit The Foundry for further details. Poster Black text on white paper. Published February Twentynine 2000 Text to Bomb Mount Sinai. Edition of 100. See Bomb Mount Sinai (Job 21) for further details. Appendices 1 Bad Wisdom 2 The Kalevala 3 The Curfew Tower 4 In You We Trust 5 The Foundry [Appendix 1] BAD WISDOM Bad Wisdom is a trilogy of novels written by Mark Manning and Bill Drummond. The first of this trilogy is Bad Wisdom Book 1 - Lighthouse At The Top Of The World. It was published by Penguin Books in 1996. This book told the story of a journey to the North Pole that Manning, Drummond and their travelling companion Gimpo, made in late 1992. Manning and Drummond took with them a bejewelled icon of Elvis Presley that they planned to place at the pole. They believed that once in position it would leak vibes of love and happiness down the longitudes and out across the latitudes causing an outbreak of world peace. Manning later commented that the probable real reason for making the journey was to symbolically dump Elvis as far away as possible thus saving the pair of them from any further havoc that rock'n'roll had wrought upon their respective lives. Manning and Drummond's wildly different accounts of the same journey were edited together afterwards by a third party. The end result is seamless schizophrenia. The second book of the Bad Wisdom Trilogy may be called The Wild Highway. It is an account of a journey that Manning, Drummond and Gimpo undertook up the Congo, deep into the heart of that most troubled of continents. The pair of them had reason to believe that they had sold their souls at some point to Satan. They had then rationalised that Lucifer could be found hiding in a fruit tree at the source of this most mighty of rivers. On arriving at the tree it would only be a matter of frank discussion and gentle persuasion and Old Horny could be tricked into giving them back their souls. This journey was undertaken in early 1996. The book will not be published until 2001. The third and final part of this trilogy might not appear until Manning, Drummond and Gimpo reach their dottage and may involve the slaying of dragons and the seduction of the birds of paradise. [Appendix 2] THE KALEVALA The Kalevala is the great Finnish epic which, like the Iliad and Odyssey, grew out of a rich oral tradition with prehistoric roots. It begins with an account of the creation from broken eggshells, and ends with a strange interpretation of the Virgin Birth. In between a northern people's negotiation with its environment and the conduct of its affairs is set forth in a text that is not only epic, but lyrical, ritual and magical. During the first millennium of our era, speakers of Uralic languages (outside the Indo-European group) who settled in the Baltic region developed an oral poetry that was to last into the nineteenth century. This poetry provided the basis of the Kalevala assembled by the Finnish scholar Elias Lonnrot in its final form in 1849. Kalevala is also the name given to an imaginary Finnish record label. Although it is an imagined label it did release seven very real 7-inch singles in 1997. Each of these singles was limited to a single pressing of 500 each. Not only is Kalevala an imaginary record label, it also had an imaginary boss Mr Matti Virtanen. The following is a letter he mailed to 100 British record shops. Hi, KALEVALA is Finlands most very national label. We have decided to make some of our english language records available for the international market. The plan is to release numerous 7" singles, E.P.'s and long playing albums, from our back catalogue, over the next few months. We have just negotiating a deal with Finnmaart U.K., a company specializing in the distribution of quality Finland produce (including our world famous Koskenkorva vodka - "Try some and die".) If you are shop and would like to stock KALEVALA records, please contact Finnmart U.K. fax: 01296-682 320 and they will send you release schedule and dealer price. We hope you are enjoying our Finland music. If there are questions you have about our artist - please fax us question, we will try and answer them. Regards Matti Virtanen Matti Virtanen also wrote and mailed the following biogs for a selection of the Kalevala artists. DRACULA'S DAUGHTER Perhaps if I tell you the four girls who make up Dracula's Daughter prefer to be called artists rather than musicians, you get the picture! Paivi Talvensaari (guitar/ vocals) Aija Vanska (bass/ vocals) Marja Kirjava (organ) Leena Tornkvist (drums) Ask them their biggest influnce, they tell you without hesitation Kristina Bruuk (guest vocal on 'Candy'), Andy Warhol and the young british art scene. Before signing with Kalevala the girls have released two english-speaking EP's on their own label. These recordings were only available through few selective book shops and art galleries in Finland and Scandinavia. To see Dracula's Daughter playing live is a very rare priviledge and usually only in selective art events and private celebrity parties. The girls are not interested in gigging and touring in particular. THE FUCKERS We are very proud that Kalevala is home to the world's only Lapp punk band. The guys are punking for more than one decade already and still nobody likes them, ha ha! But they do not care as they hate everyone and everything! Except your english cider. The Fuckers is made up of: Billy Fuck (vocals) Nasty Fuck (quitar) J.J. Fuck (bass) Sick Fuck (drums) Not like Draculas Daughter, The Fuckers are gigging all the time (276 shows in Finland and Scandinavia in last 12 months). The guys like to play at beer festivals (do you have cider festivals in UK?) and have a 100% record of turn up at these shows in particular. Maybe they will become as big as Green Day. What do you think? DAYTONAS Buzz, Uri, Hank, Speedy, Cosmo, Boris and Ghandi are seven brothers of the same family. The poor mother, you say. But not, this incredible lady is the manager of the fastest surfbeat band in the world. The band formed in 1962 and are touring much of the time since, but until now they have not been back to a recording studio since 1965. The surfbeat craze was very big here in Finland in the early 1960's and The Daytonas remain loyal to this style, with now some quite old followers of them back home. Hank is the father of Aija Vanska from Dracula's Daughter and was introduces to UK filmmaker Gimpo at Helsinki film festival in 1996. The single "Faster Gimpo Faster.." is written in honour of Gimpo. KRISTINA BRUUK Your english saying 'A cat with nine lives' very well describes the life of this incredible lady. She flees her home town of Tallinn, Estonia in late 1960's and soon becomes lover and muse of Peter Darklord, very influential poet/philosopher/musician in Finland in 1960's. She nearly becomes famous model but heroin addiction and periods as an alcoholic (of which she is OK now to talk) brings years of obscureness with now and again dark and soul - bearing recordings for various record labels. She is now resident in Helsinki the past twenty years where she build a big cult following with art and student community, and appear on occasion to give informal concerts with maybe only one quitarist to accompany. Guest vocals on 'Candy' by Dracula's Daughter givels Kristina another chance for success. A new LP will be released in December and concerts in UK in negotiation. GIMPO Underground UK film maker who met Aija Vanska from Dracula's Daughter at Helsinki film festival in 1996. Aija has love with Pertti Hurme of Megasonic (top Helsinki techno act) and Pertti persuaded Gimpo to make a recording during his stay of Helsinki after hearing some really wild stories from Gimpo about his life of drugs, girls and techno music. Gimpo is formerly war veteran of the UK war with Argentina in the Falklan Islands and has made film of top UK rave band K Foundation. Gimpo is also big star in book "Huono Viisaus". We hope to make record deal with Gimpo for more material but he is a tricky guy to get commitment. Lets cross our fingers since we think this is a very talented guy and maybe huge rave act in Finland and Scandinavia. AURORA BOREALIS This is a 'collective' of musicians from Lapland who live outside from society. They come together on occasions to make ethereal sounds which they believe are musical paintings of the bleak and dreamy landscapes of their homeland. It takes many months of persuade these hermit people to the recording studio and so we 'handle with care' their rare records and do not try to exploit too much potential. THE BLIZZARD KING One of Finland's most successful artists in the domestic market. The Blizzard King records his own compositions in finnish and records cover version fo english and american songs in english. This guy is mysterious. He lives alone on a small island where he makes his compositions and mands his fishing nets (oh yeah! He also finds the time to do his other job as fisherman, but Kalevala hope not for too long now!). This guy is very deep and thoughtful. He does not make music for money, he says: "Music is not for buy and sell. Music is for survival". This huge guy is a captivating presence. His voice will haunt you. All the above artists plus the progressive rock band Gurmenghast appear on the un-released soundtrack album 'Huono Viisaus'. Also as yet still un-released are albums by Kristina Bruuk, The Fuckers and the experimental techno duo, High End World Receiver. If all this Kaleval info seems irrelevant please refer to 'The Winner Takes It All' and 'The Number Fourteen' stories in the book 45. If not, wait until the above listed albums are made available via shop@penkiln-burn.com [Appendix 3] THE CURFEW TOWER The Curfew Tower is a tower in Cushendall, County Antrim, Northern Ireland. It was built in .... By ....... Turnley, the local landowner to incarcerate local trouble makers. The following is a quote from a local tourist guide. In 1994 Mark Manning and Bill Drummond bought the tower to be a retreat from the hurly burly of metropolitan life and to house their private library. It soon became apparent, if not to themselves, but to those that knew the pair, it was nothing more than a folly to their artistic vanities. Manning and Drummond had bought the Curfew Tower off an organisation called The Hearth Revolving Fund. Hearth is based in Belfast and its prime purpose is to buy, restore and look after interesting and historic building in the province. Hearth still owned the land that the tower was built on. It had been sold to Manning and Drummond on the understanding that the pair of them would be in frequent residency. They were not. Hearth were concerned that the building might fall into disrepair and made it known that maybe the pair should consider selling the property or at least leasing it out to an interested party who may make better and more regular use of it. The main man at Hearth is called Marcus Patton, he persuaded Bill Drummond that something should be done. That it was wrong to let a fine old building moulder and it should be a living part of the community. [Appendix 4] IN YOU WE TRUST In You We Trust is a non profit making trust. The trustees are Susan Phillips, a Belfast based contemporary artist, Bill Drummond and Marcus Patton. The trust began in 1999. The stated purpose of the trust is to provide short residencies in the Curfew Tower, Cushendall, County Antrim, Northern Ireland. The residencies are for artists working in any medium and are for periods no shorter than a week and no longer than a month. While in residence the artist has to produce a work or works inspired by the Tower or locality. They then have to leave the work or documentation of the work behind in the tower. Once a year the tower will be opened up for the people of Cushendall to inspect the work of the artists. They will then be given a vote each to decide who in their opinion has produced the best work of the year. The winner of the ballot will be awarded a small brass casting of the tower. Since the project was launched in summer 1999 there has been a continual turnover of both Irish and international artists in residency. The first annual Curfew Tower Award will not be held until June 2001. If you are interested in receiving an application form for a residency, please contact Marcus Patton at Hearth Revolving Fund, 66 Donegall Pass, Belfast BT7 1BU. Tel: 01232 530121. Fax: 01232 530122 [Appendix 5] THE FOUNDRY The Foundry is a pub. The address of this pub is 84-86 Great Eastern Street, London EC2. The nearest tube is Old Street. The telephone number is 020 7739 6900. The e-mail address foundry@ellipsis.co.uk Things happen at The Foundry. You can make more happen. This poster is on the wall beside the bar. READ [http://www.penkiln-burn.com/better.jpg] The Foundry is run by Gimpo. The directors of The New Foundry Ltd are Tom Neville, Jonathan Moberly, Bill Drummond and Gimpo. NOTICES This page will be a list of forthcoming events and publications related to Penkiln Burn. x # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: thorpe1@talk21.com Subject: (klf) Fat Old Sun Date: 24 Jun 2000 17:35:56 +0100 Just listening to the trance remix of Pink Floyd's "Atom Heart Mother" and noticed that the choir sample used on 'Fat Old Sun' is the same one used by Jimmy and Bill on the KLF's "Chill Out" album and also on various versions of '3am Eternal'. Does anyone know when the trance version of "Atom Heart Mother" was released and where the sample originated? Tony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Courtney Sloan Subject: (klf) Brit award cartoon Date: 24 Jun 2000 17:12:53 -0400 It is just a bad likeness--but I would say it is Bill, because of the size of the chin. It really doesn't look like either one of them. Love, Courtney # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) music from credits of stadium house Date: 24 Jun 2000 09:51:27 +0200 At 13:30 23.06.00 -0400, Courtney Sloan wrote: >where is this available? > >thanks! The KLF: Stadium House (The Trilogy) VHS: 1991 UK (Picture Music International; MVR 9900983) 1:19 It Must Be Obvious (ufo mix) [unlisted; over opening credits] 3:50 3 a.m. Eternal 3:41 Last Train To Trancentral 4:15 What Time Is Love? 2:08 It's Grim Up North (original) [unlisted; over closing credits] 14:41 This Is Not What The KLF Is About ["Live At Woodstock, Europa"] you are probably looking for It's Grim Up North. You should be able to find the single CD somewhere on the net - if not ask me - but the version used in the video is closest to the original mix, which was only on a very rare 12" and some bootleg cds. have a look at the discography at Lazlos original site http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf or even better on my homepage http://www.klf.cx and while there check out the faq - it's fascinating reading for any KLF fan! CU :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax 2 Date: 24 Jun 2000 09:56:50 +0200 Hi everybody In a second I will be very embarrassed if this has been mentioned before. In that case, somebody please inform me of the details. I recently went to a record fair and met a reseller who was very interested in KLF stuff. He told me he had seen KLF URT 2 twice, but he had a waiting list of at least five people and hadn't had URT2 in over 10 months. He told me that it included tracks from 1987 and one song that was played backwards while the beat was going normal. What the fuck could it be? Anyway, of course this guy could have been mistaken or lying, but in my judgement he knew what he was talking about. So watch out for this people. :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Brit award cartoon Date: 25 Jun 2000 15:12:24 +0200 At 23:12 2000-06-24 , you wrote: > >It is just a bad likeness--but I would say it is Bill, because of the size >of the chin. It really doesn't look like either one of them. It's Bill. He had the gun and the cigar in the gig... Cheers! /Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Positive Void Subject: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax 2 Date: 25 Jun 2000 17:13:55 -0400 Message text written by erik >and one song that was played backwards = while the beat was going normal. What the fuck could it be? < sounds like "dub is what" from the remix of the moody boyz 12" : ) + ( . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (klf) Non Orb/Non KLF: Rare FSOL tracks on Compilation CD for sale Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:57:12 +0100 evenin' all... a while ago i was selling a copy of rare Virgin records compilation CD called 'Signed Sealed Delivered 2', which includes TWO EXCLUSIVE FSOL tracks: FSOL - Bring Me Home Amorphous Androgynous - Subliminal Aura and also tracks by Massive Attack (Home Of The Whale) and Fluke (G. Feel 8 The Popsicle). there was huge demand for it, but as i only had the one copy...lots of you were disappointed. however, i have managed to lay my hands on FOUR copies of this very limited CD set, and the two tracks are unavailable anywhere else. if anyone wants one, then let me know - first come, first served. the price is 8 UKP/$15 US, including postage/packing. i can take: UKP cash UKP cheque drawn on a UK bank/UKP money order US dollar cash i cannot accept any other form of payment than those stated above. please email me privately to reserve a copy. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rod Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Off Topic for UK readers ! Date: 26 Jun 2000 00:41:05 +0100 UK petrol and diesel is a ripoff Have a look at this page: And send details of it to as many people as possible. TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE Sorry for the irrelevant post # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) KLF speakers for sale :) Date: 26 Jun 2000 01:47:10 +0200 http://www.klipsch.com/home/legend01.htm -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rev. Erik C Elmshauser D.D." Subject: Fwd: Re: (klf) Fat Old Sun Date: 25 Jun 2000 19:12:58 -0500 >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:12:45 -0500 >To: thorpe1@talk21.com >From: "Rev. Erik C Elmshauser D.D." >Subject: Re: (klf) Fat Old Sun > >At 05:35 PM 6/24/00 +0100, you wrote: > >>Just listening to the trance remix of Pink Floyd's "Atom Heart Mother" >>and noticed that the choir sample used on 'Fat Old Sun' is the same one >>used by Jimmy and Bill on the KLF's "Chill Out" album and also on various >>versions of '3am Eternal'. >> >>Does anyone know when the trance version of "Atom Heart Mother" was >>released and where the sample originated? >> >>Tony > >a friend of mine got a copy of that about 6 months ago, before which we >had never heard of it. he actually has most of the trance remixes but >there is no information of any value on them. mostly just track >listings. I am also interested in finding out more info about these >recordings. > >BTW, there is also a big KLF sample from chill out on the animals trance >remix. > --Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) DTT laser rot Date: 25 Jun 2000 17:02:49 +0200 Hi everybody my CD video of DTTT has started to rot. As all CD videos (don't confuse w/ video CDs- I'm talking about those old golden cd singles that play video in laserdisc players only) rot eventually, which I unfortunately didn't know early enough to make a good copy to video. You cannot see the rot on golden discs, but the picture disturbance is getting annoying. The audio part is fine though (cds rot from outside inwards). If would be very very improtant that someone with a not-yet-rotting copy of this CDV makes a copy to high quality video or even better high quality mpeg for later use on a possible klf-video-bootleg-dvd (that is what we all want, isn't it? :) :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jai Subject: Re: (klf) Brit award cartoon Date: 25 Jun 2000 12:13:15 +0100 At 5:12 pm -0400 24/6/00, Courtney Sloan wrote: >It is just a bad likeness--but I would say it is Bill, because of >the size of the chin. It really doesn't look like either one of >them. okay points for Jimi : he's smoking a spliff - he has curly hair paints against : hair is cut neatly - he's wearing a shirt and jacket - no sunglasses points for Bill : he's not wearing sunglasses - he's wearing a shirt and jacket points against : he's got way too much curly hair - it says its Jimi - he's not holding a machine gun summary : the artist is crap - and its all just a way of the Brits bringing them under the envelope of guys who really loved the Brits anyway even if they did try and ruin it and we like them for that but portraying them as clean cut and poping a champange cork - it would never have been a life like cartoon of either of them in any case. wow - for this early on a sunday, i consider that almost profound - i'm going back to bed -- -- Jai Nelson jai@illitrate.cx --- "What's it all about Ted, life, all this?" "Well the way i look at it, sir, your born, and when your number's up, your gone. And well, anything else in between, well that's a bonus, isn't it sir?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) acid brass question Date: 25 Jun 2000 16:49:27 +0200 hi everybody I'm working on discography additions for lazlo and I need a) the cat.no. of the british release of the Acid Brass Album (not the limited live one, I mean the regular studio album) b) verification that the Acid Brass studio album includes the same version of WTIL as the 2k single (that would be version k) thanks :-) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (klf) OT: Brand new sound samples Date: 25 Jun 2000 15:53:02 -0500 apologies for the off-topic content, it is clearly marked so i hope noone is reading this accidently. mp3 samples from my latest musical efforts (for those who enjoyed the earlier material, i hope you enjoy these as well) are now available on the band website check out www.zombieproject.com/lysergic/ click on the streetlamp picture for samples from the new Lysergic Dream album, Cult of the Dying Streetlamp. hope you enjoy and those who are interested in receiving an as of yet undetermined promotional mailing in relation to this release, please email your snail address to me with a subject line of "Cult Mailing list" or something similar so i don't miss it. apologies again for the off-topic post but i hope that the music is appreciated thanks a bunch and enjoy... lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: (klf) OT: Brand new sound samples Date: 25 Jun 2000 15:52:42 -0500 apologies for the off-topic content, it is clearly marked so i hope noone is reading this accidently. mp3 samples from my latest musical efforts (for those who enjoyed the earlier material, i hope you enjoy these as well) are now available on the band website check out www.zombieproject.com/lysergic/ click on the streetlamp picture for samples from the new Lysergic Dream album, Cult of the Dying Streetlamp. those who enjoy the more ambient works of the KLF and the orb may enjoy these pieces, no warranties implied... hope you enjoy and those who are interested in receiving an as of yet undetermined promotional mailing in relation to this release, please email your snail address to me with a subject line of "Cult Mailing list" or something similar so i don't miss it. apologies again for the off-topic post but i hope that the music is appreciated thanks a bunch and enjoy... lysergic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) [OT:] jai nelson Date: 25 Jun 2000 17:03:59 +0200 sorry for the off topic post, but I'm looking for jai nelson's new address or phone number anybody? thanks :) erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) DTT laser rot Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:52:28 PDT As all CD videos (don't >confuse w/ >video CDs- I'm talking about those old golden cd singles that play video in >laserdisc players only) rot eventually, which I unfortunately didn't know >early enough to make a good copy to video. No, they don't *all* rot, only most of them. Chad Gombosi Member SCP http://omocha.shc.uiowa.edu/scp Chad's Game Music Page http://chadsgamemusic.webjump.com "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) Baton Rouge Rock et al... Date: 27 Jun 2000 17:55:58 +0200 What's up with those three songs named "Baton rouge rock", "Love time kiss" och "Ufo to Trancentral"? They surfaced as mp3s a while ago and I must say I've forgotten what they were about. Who made them, why did they make them and where do they come from? Any information is welcome... Cheers! /Frid Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: (klf) Last Train Date: 27 Jun 2000 16:06:09 +0100 Location: Glastonbury Stage: The Other Stage Day: Sunday Time: Around 6:00pm When: In between St. Etienne and the Dandy Warhols What: Last Train to Trancentral booms out over the PA system Made my Sunday afternoon that did. M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael jordan" Subject: (klf) bunny love Date: 27 Jun 2000 14:03:26 -0700 hello. this mp3 isnt on mancentral, and i havent been able to get into any other mp3 archives, so i dont know how available it is already, but here it is, another wtil remix... http://www.aux2.cx/liberation.html - happyconsumer ________________________________________ F**K THE ELECTION ________________________________________ Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! ****************************************************** Make FREE long distance phone calls online! Click here to use PhoneFREE.com today! http://adserv.internetfuel.com/cgi-bin/newredirect.cgi?AD=EMAIL-phonefree ****************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Reed" Subject: Re: (klf) Last Train Date: 27 Jun 2000 18:25:51 +0100 And mine. I was rocking out in an all white one piece Tyvek chemical warfare outfit... Mark ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 4:06 PM > > > > > Location: Glastonbury > Stage: The Other Stage > Day: Sunday > Time: Around 6:00pm > When: In between St. Etienne and the Dandy Warhols > What: Last Train to Trancentral booms out over the PA system > > Made my Sunday afternoon that did. > > M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jon[tm]" Subject: Re: (klf) Fat Old Sun Date: 28 Jun 2000 13:44:05 +0100 thorpe1@talk21.com wrote: > > Just listening to the trance remix of Pink Floyd's "Atom Heart Mother" and noticed that the choir sample used on 'Fat Old Sun' is the same one used by Jimmy and Bill on the KLF's "Chill Out" album and also on various versions of '3am Eternal'. > > Does anyone know when the trance version of "Atom Heart Mother" was released and where the sample originated? although this is completely un-confirmed, I've been told that the pink floyd trance remixes were all done by the orb. I don't know any more, and can't contact the person who told me, so I can't find out any more, that's all I know. I'm pretty sure the mixes are illegal (they have the look of bootlegs and I've only ever seen them on dodgy stalls) so there's not much chance of findng out from reputable sources. If they were done while the orb was Jimmy and Dr LX then that would definitely explain the KLF samples. I seem to remember from an old record collector interview that one or both of jimmy and alex were floyd fans. Does any one have all the remixes? Are any of them Good, or just OK? Are any worth getting? Now I'm a bit better off than as a student I might consider wasting some money on them... jon [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kabalistic One" Subject: (klf) Chill Out Date: 28 Jun 2000 14:06:44 BST Hi all, Not sure if you are all aware of this as I am a recent subscriber to this let, but I noticed quite a few copies of Chill Out on vinyl in HMV last weekend. They were exactly the same as the original but for 3 or 4 spelling mistakes on the vinyl itself. It was on a KLF Communications label. Are these bootlegs or has someone obtained the copyright to it? Thanks Marc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) PF Trance remixes Date: 28 Jun 2000 16:38:05 +0200 >=20 > Does any one have all the remixes? I don't think I have the all, but I have these: Dark side of the moon (Limited trance remixes) 7.55 Speak to me/Breathe 9.13 On the run 7.34 Time 9.54 Great gig in the sky 8.15 Money 8.45 Us and them 7.34 Any colour you like 13.30 Brain Damage ----------------- Wish you were here (trance remixes) Shine on you crazy diamond (Fluffy cloud version) Welcome to the machine (New age version) Have a Cigar (Have a joint version) Wish you were here (Atmosfear version) Shine on you crazy diamond (Part 2 of a journey into Your brain) -------------- Meddle: Limited edition Trance mixes. ---------- Atom Heart Mother: Limited edition trance mixes --------- A Momentary lapse of reason: Limited edition trance mixes ------------ >=20 > Are any of them Good, or just OK? Just OK, I would say - Wish you were here is the best > Are any worth getting? Depends ;-) Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Fat Old Sun Date: 28 Jun 2000 09:52:48 -0500 I have all but Meddle. Having listened to most of them, I find it hard to believe that they would have been done by the Orb or Jimmy. The tracks for the most part sound like they were quickly hacked together and most are painfully repetitive. They aren't amateur, but these remixes are not what I would call professional either. although this is completely un-confirmed, I've been told that the pink floyd trance remixes were all done by the orb. I don't know any more, and can't contact the person who told me, so I can't find out any more, that's all I know. I'm pretty sure the mixes are illegal (they have the look of bootlegs and I've only ever seen them on dodgy stalls) so there's not much chance of findng out from reputable sources. If they were done while the orb was Jimmy and Dr LX then that would definitely explain the KLF samples. I seem to remember from an old record collector interview that one or both of jimmy and alex were floyd fans. Does any one have all the remixes? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Xav Ehret, hello?? Date: 28 Jun 2000 21:57:50 +0200 as the subject says :> you haven't sent me your mpegs and I haven't heard from you for about few months. Now, there's a certain number of people waiting patiently for my 8 cdr mpeg set, so I'm gonna take a week and wait for your reply. If not, I'll burn out the discs with what I have - that is excluding Doctorin The Tardis and 3:am Eternal (both TOTP appearances) and one Drummond interview. -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) KLF eight cd set Date: 29 Jun 2000 02:36:18 +0100 hello, what is this "8 klf cd mpg set", can someone please do a directory listing or explanation of these cd's please, i'd be very grateful, or failing that, what is the drummond interview (which programme, how long, etc) .. not Rapido i hope, i thought that show was worse than 'The Word' (although i have to admit, The Word had its moments) Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cory Wrench" Subject: Fw: (klf) Last Train To Glastonbury Date: 28 Jun 2000 10:33:24 +0100 I wondered who that was.... What a great weekend, after that scare on Thursday when it rained a lot I was ready to bin-liner-up then The Wailers played on Friday morning and the Sun came out. Did any of you 'attempt' to catch a movie. Now THAT was funny. I caught the Utah Saints set and that brought back loads of great memories. The Bloodhound Gang was just crazy. Chemical Brothers were awesome, Happy Mondays - as you'd expect. And Bowie - living legend. That's all i can remember right now. Cory. ----- Original Message ----- Cc: Sent: 27 June 2000 18:25 > > And mine. I was rocking out in an all white one piece Tyvek chemical warfare > outfit... > > Mark > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) KLF eight cd set Date: 29 Jun 2000 06:47:09 +0200 (CEST) On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ollie wrote: > what is this "8 klf cd mpg set", can someone please do a directory listing > or explanation of these cd's please, i'd be very grateful, or failing that, 3 of 8 CDs was on ftp.pinknet.cz - it's K-FRONT projekt -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Chill Out Date: 29 Jun 2000 01:53:33 EDT > They were exactly the same as the original but for 3 or 4 spelling mistakes > on the vinyl itself. It was on a KLF Communications label. > > Are these bootlegs or has someone obtained the copyright to it? A few months ago bootleg vinyl editions of 1987 and Chill Out surfaced, as did cd boots of Space. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Deep Shit Date: 28 Jun 2000 23:06:27 +0100 So where did this come from then? A week or two back, Marek emails the list and says there's a copy of Deep Shit available for download. But where did it surface from after all this time? As no-one seemed to comment on it, have I missed something? Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Deep Shit Date: 29 Jun 2000 10:21:21 CEST Hi, I really don't know why nobody commented on that! The track has been searched after for years and now that it's there it's not worth even writing one single line about it?!? After all I think that DEEP SHIT was done for a kind of "Pure Crap" series ;) It's nothing new besides a crazy Bill shouting a few words. Depends on the point of view... But I'd really like to see a scan of the original Flexy disc!!! DAN --- DJ Kuta KLF Online (www.klf.de) >So where did this come from then? A week or two back, Marek emails the >list and says there's a copy of Deep Shit available for >download. But where did it surface from after all this time? As no-one >seemed to comment on it, have I missed something? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael_Kennedy@derwentside.ac.uk (Michael Kennedy) Subject: Re(2): (klf) Deep Shit Date: 29 Jun 2000 09:32:00 +0100 djkuta@hotmail.com writes: >Hi, > >I really don't know why nobody commented on that! The track has been >searched after for years and now that it's there it's not worth even >writing >one single line about it?!? > >After all I think that DEEP SHIT was done for a kind of "Pure Crap" >series >;) It's nothing new besides a crazy Bill shouting a few words. Depends on >the point of view... i've lost the e mail off the other week, i know the site and can get on but cant remember what the log in name and password is to get this mp3, can anyone tell me what it is so i can get it, i'd look on the archive but the college has blocked ftp sites, can anyone tell me what it is cheers cheers # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Deep Shit Date: 29 Jun 2000 04:49:22 EDT > So where did this come from then? A week or two back, Marek emails the list > and says there's a copy of Deep Shit available for > download. But where did it surface from after all this time? As no-one > seemed to comment on it, have I missed something? Apparently. :) A while back someone posted that he had a copy of Deep Shit - I can't recall the details but I think he worked for something related to B&J/KLF. He described the trck and got a ton of requests for copies - I know I sent him one. We mailed each other privately a few times and he was offering to make copies for people if they sent him the tapes. Life happened and I, for one, forgot all about it and even now can't find any of the emails. I hate when that happens. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: Re(2): (klf) Deep Shit Date: 29 Jun 2000 02:45:13 PDT >djkuta@hotmail.com writes: > >Hi, > > > >I really don't know why nobody commented on that! The track has been > >searched after for years and now that it's there it's not worth even > >writing > >one single line about it?!? If you are talking about the supossed Black Room version, it (and the rest of the Black Room demos) surfaced last year, and there was much talk on the list about them. They are probably fake, but one things for sure: the whole set of MP3s are shite. They really aren't worth the download, or the time it takes to listen to them. In fact, they are so bad they might actually be real. Would anyone fake something that nasty, and totally un-KLF sounding? Chad Gombosi Member SCP http://omocha.shc.uiowa.edu/scp Chad's Game Music Page http://chadsgamemusic.webjump.com "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heiko" Subject: (klf) DEEP SHIT=SHIT Date: 29 Jun 2000 11:36:09 +0200 i thought that deep-shit mp3 on marek's site was a joke, i just can't believe the KLF would call the single "deep shit" while it's just "dancing queen", if it's not a joke then the klf were at an all-time creative low at that time... Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael K Subject: (klf) The Meaning and Purpose of the K Foundation revealed Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:49:04 +0100 ******************************************************************************************************************** SERIOUS DIRECT ACTION IMMINENT. The following is issued by the High Command of the K Foundation, currently using the multiple-name "K": ******************************************************************************************************************** The K Foundation, temporarily 'located' on 'Earth', is here to act as the vanguard for the future of R/evolutionary apotheosis. The K Foundation left its Home in a 'distant' galaxy to prepare Earth people for the total revolution which will occur at the 'end' of the current 'century' (NOW 1997) At that time, we will mass in the Earth 'atmosphere' and lead the earthlings to final victory over the addictive 'power' of 'capital'. This victory will mark the 'death' of 'History' and the 'start' of a 'new' era in which a subjective, trans-individual creationism rules. A splendid time is *guaranteed* for all. The Earth people will no longer have to adapt to a 'world' whose 'social relations' are mediated by money, money, more money, money, more money and money. There will be a 'return' to the freedoms of 'childhood' but new 'births' will be strictly regulated on a voluntary OR, if necessary, compulsory basis in order that the 'central' position of the 'blood-family' in earth societies can be shown as the source of all negativity, bigotry and money money money. It is bitterly 'ironic' that for most earthlings, 'reproduction' is 'sanctified' as some form of 'selflessness' offered to the future-generation. The 'wilfully-childless' are commonly regarded as 'selfish' or 'childish' or as 'not liking children'. The unfortunate reality is that 'adults' use the 'needs' of 'their' children to justify all manner of activity to which they themselves and certainly their neonates are essentially and rightly opposed. DO NOT ACCEPT THE CONTRADICTIONS ON THIS ISSUE. How often have you heard of the 'conscientious environmentalist' who turns 'car-owner' for the 'sake of the kids'. There are many more examples. (And we're not just some bunch of 'environmentalist-cranks' in this, although the issue will do for illustrative purposes due to its EXTREME urgency for the 'unborn'.) Sadly, most 'parents' are demonstrably deluded (if not demented) since their actions (in governmental/social collusion) threaten the future of their grandchildren as well as turning the idea of 'succeeding generations' into the reality of 'robotic clones' of their clueless, money money and more money selves. Anyone who has ever asked a 'child' how to right the wrongs of the world will appreciate the deeper truth of this apparently 'anti-social' thesis. EVERY child 'knows' what must to be done. ASK them. OBEY them. This is THEIR planet, NOT yours and we will see to it that THEY 'get it' even if YOU don't. In short, we'll have you or we'll have your kids. It's inevitable. Currently and historically, the concept of 'family' gives rise to the death of humanity by making 'property' of the future generation: property which has to be 'defended' against the 'threat' of other 'families' in a 'smash'n'grab' world of money, money, aerosol sunscreens and more money. We will make it possible for the negative cohesion of seperatist, gang-gang 'community'-elitism in the current 'family' model to be (willingly, easily) abandoned in favour of a society where everybody is looking after everybody else's kids. LITERALLY. There will be NO entitlement to heirs and graces and all 'education' will be centred on children teaching adults how NOT to destroy THEIR future. In the end we will all be at play on this and other planets... *BUT* do not think for a single moment that the K Foundation (or any other past, present or future name attached to their activities) is here as some kind of 'messianic' force. Messianic cosmology is for the terminally irresponsible.The 'messiah', like Santa Claus Himself, does not exist, except, of course to those who believe that 'God' owes them 'forgiveness' and that 'the messiah' will make everything alright anyway so carry on making money for 'retirement'. The revolution will not be pensionable. There is only one kind of 'retirement' coming up and I personally have the weaponry. Some of 'you' will think 'I' am 'joking' and try to 'censor' this communication where it occurs. I wish you the best of luck. 'I' am personally 'invincible' and 'our' new 'arrivals' multiply daily. The lists of those 'renewed' are stored safely and the actions of those in opposition to this 'renewal' are so transparent to the 'renewed' as to warrant no future commentary. Repentance is futile. Some 'others' will not think I'm joking. They will tell me that 'I' am a 'beautiful creature' and 'I' will whisper 'You are Michael K' in their shell-like. For these 'others', luck is being ready and the above is only a sign that THE END IS NIGH. Rejoice! The end of what? Bozos will be reaching for the phonebook to report this 'anarchy' to 'the police' and come Sunday will be off in a suit and BMW down their local 'church' for a spot of 'comfort' and 'consolation' and 'safety in numbers'. Let's face it, on current attendance figures, the 'church' needs these bozos so worship and be damned. The 'others' will be found down the joke shop buying face masks to begin their transmog. We'll see you at the timeline for the Time Picnic...today, tomorrow, forever. No giggling. And so on into the heat of the sun, K (GMT) ******************************************************************************************************************** CENSORSHIP BLOCKS TRANSMISSION (And there are plenty of self-appointed censors out there..although they too will be transmogrified in the name of K) KICK OUT THE JAMS! DISTRIBUTE THIS EMAIL! If necessary, claim authorship of it. If you're part of the solution, you will cease to be part of the problem. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Boyd" Subject: Re: Re(2): (klf) Deep Shit Date: 29 Jun 2000 16:31:27 EDT >They are probably fake, but one things for sure: the whole set of MP3s are >shite. They really aren't worth the download, or the time it takes to >listen >to them. > >In fact, they are so bad they might actually be real. Would anyone fake >something that nasty, and totally un-KLF sounding? That gives me an idea: any musicaly-minded folks wnat to remix those Krappy demos? I think I'll try my hand at it. Just for kicks, you know? At least you probably won't have any Kopyright problems :) --Quahogs-- www.mp3.com/quahogs/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) just wondering.. Date: 29 Jun 2000 13:56:36 +0100 just been reading the deep shit stuff posted to the list, i got chill out recently and think it's really good, i was wondering though, since i never really looked into this, ..who actually wrote all the klf stuff, was it jimmy on his own with bill taking care of the business side of things, or both writing the tracks together equally. on the omnibus video, you see jimmy putting together a track and bill encouraging, .. did this go both ways? (just curious) also, were there others involved (gimpo? ha ha) chill out especially, i'd be interested to know who did that one, if anyone actually knows. Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) Deep Shit Date: 30 Jun 2000 22:43:56 +0200 Simon Coward wrote: > > So where did this come from then? I thought I stated clearly I ripped it off klf.de :) -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF eight cd set Date: 30 Jun 2000 22:46:57 +0200 Ollie wrote: > what is this "8 klf cd mpg set", can someone please do a directory listing > or explanation of these cd's please, ok.. this is NOT the final tracklisting though: K-Front CD1: ------------ 2K - Fuck The Millennium [57 MB] Disco 2000 - Uptight [53 MB] The Jams - It's Grim Up North [59 MB] The KLF vs ENT - 3:AM Eternal (Brits '92) [43 MB] The KLF - 3:AM Eternal (Embankment Version) [48 MB] The KLF - America What Time Is Love [70 MB] The KLF - Justified And Ancient [59 MB] The KLF - Kylie Said To Jason [65 MB] The KLF - What Time Is Love (Cornfields Version) [63 MB] The KLF - What Time Is Love (Pure Trance) [81 MB] The Timelords - Doctorin The Tardis [35 MB] White Room promo clip [29 MB] K-Front CD2: ------------ Rites Of Mu: The Rites Of Mu (Version 1) [110 MB] The Rites Of Mu (Version 2) [105 MB] Top Of The Pops: The Jams - It's Grim Up North (TOTP) [48 MB] The Timelords - Doctorin The Tardis (TOTP) The KLF - 3:AM Eternal (TOTP1_no.5) [46 MB] The KLF - 3:AM Eternal (TOTP2_no.1) The KLF - Justified And Ancient (TOTP) [55 MB] The KLF - Last Train To Trancentral (TOTP) The KLF - What Time Is Love (TOTP1_no.25) [39 MB] The KLF - What Time Is Love (TOTP2_no.11) [42 MB] The KLF - What Time Is Love (TOTP2_no.05) [36 MB] K-Front CD3: ------------ 2K - Barbican Gig (Camcoder Footage) [461 MB] The KLF - Stadium House (Work Version) [192 MB] K-Foundation Clip [13 MB] K-Front CD4: ------------ 2K - Barbican Gig (Mtv Broadcast) [55 MB] The KLF - Waiting [590 MB] K-Front CD5: ------------ K-Foundation Omnibus documentary [650 MB] K-Front CD6: ------------ Interviews: How To Have A No 1 [92 MB] Mediashow interview 1 [16 MB] Mediashow interview 2 Rapido interview [86 MB] SnubTV interview [98 MB] Tammy Wynette interview [9 MB] This Is Not What The KLF Is About [243 MB] [Brilliant] - Love Is War [59 MB] [The KLF vs ENT] - 3:AM Eternal (Brits'92 version2) [45MB] [The KLF] - What Time Is Love (Chart Show Version) [23MB] [The KLF] - 3am Eternal (Chart Show Version) [31MB] K-Front CD7: ------------ The White Room film (1991 Version) [650 MB] K-Front CD8: ------------ The White Room film (1989 Version) [627 MB] all of this coming veeeery soon, promise :> -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: Re: (klf) KLF eight cd set Date: 30 Jun 2000 16:04:14 -0500 can someone explain the difference between these two versions of the white room film? and thanks for the post of 1, 3 and 7... i love those and can't wait for 2 and 4... wink wink nudge nudge... :-) >------------ >The White Room film (1991 Version) [650 MB] > > >K-Front CD8: >------------ >The White Room film (1989 Version) [627 MB] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Cowen Subject: Re: (klf) KLF eight cd set Date: 30 Jun 2000 16:11:59 -0500 At 10:46 PM 6/30/2000 +0200, you wrote: >K-Front CD7: >------------ >The White Room film (1991 Version) [650 MB] > > >K-Front CD8: >------------ >The White Room film (1989 Version) [627 MB] Umm, what? There were two produced versions of the White Room? I thought two were scripted, one was produced (in 89). What's the 91 version? Dave Cowen (esch@fische.net) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf