From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) Happy New Year Date: 01 Jan 2002 01:32:37 -0600 I just wanted to with the lists a Happy New Year from Austin Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RMStringer _________________________________________________ Tomorrow may never come, Moutains clash in the sun. The freezing snow starts to melt, A quiet moment to myself, Reflecting somewhere in the past, I hope this feeling will always last, A paradise we stand alone, Forgotten king without a throne, A bird takes flight now out of sight....... The sun catches its shadow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Erlemann" Subject: (klf) 2002 Date: 01 Jan 2002 16:19:48 +0100 Another Happy New Year from good ol' Germany+ACE- Hopefully there'll be some K stuff released this year. Hopefully. Cheers, Danny --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Zarustica, the King of Prussia" Subject: (klf) Tattooed Beat Messiah (ot - sort of) Date: 01 Jan 2002 22:52:15 -0200 Tattooed Beat Messiah - Zodiac Mindwarp doies anyone knows them? Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire Subject: (klf) ** IMPORTANT** List Moving To New Software Date: 01 Jan 2002 21:44:45 -0800 Hello everybody; please enjoy the following important form letter -- Xmission has added Mailman to the list of listadmin software they support and I have decided to move the list over. Mailman is more friendly to the casual user thanks to its web-based user interface. The new admin UI will make my admin job easier which should improve the level of service you get as subscribers as well as let me spend more time participating again. You'll also have access to a friendlier archive system and some new subscription options: digest mode is now an "on/off" toggle rather than a separate subscription list, and you can disable your email temporarily without needing to completely unsubscribe. Everything else should work just the same. In order to receive the new version of the list, please go to http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf and follow the subscription instructions there -- you'll need to confirm your subscription request via email and there will be a new posting address at mailman.xmission.com. I will disable the old version of the list later this month. Feel free to post or email if you have any questions or concerns. Hope you all enjoy the improvements! -- Ernie Longmire - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - www.studio-nibble.com -= /\/oo\/\ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -= - - I used to be "with it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm= with isn't "it", and what's "it" seems WEIRD and SCARY to me. It'll happen to= YOU! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire Subject: (klf) ** IMPORTANT** List Moving To New Software Date: 01 Jan 2002 21:47:16 -0800 Hello everybody; please enjoy the following important form letter -- Xmission has added Mailman to the list of listadmin software they support and I have decided to move the list over. Mailman is more friendly to the casual user thanks to its web-based user interface. The new admin UI will make my admin job easier which should improve the level of service you get as subscribers as well as let me spend more time participating again. You'll also have access to a friendlier archive system and some new subscription options: digest mode is now an "on/off" toggle rather than a separate subscription list, and you can disable your email temporarily without needing to completely unsubscribe. Everything else should work just the same. In order to receive the new version of the list, please go to http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf and follow the subscription instructions there -- you'll need to confirm your subscription request via email and there will be a new posting address at mailman.xmission.com. I will disable the old version of the list later this month. Feel free to post or email if you have any questions or concerns. Hope you all enjoy the improvements! -- Ernie Longmire - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - www.studio-nibble.com -= /\/oo\/\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "thuggy666" Subject: (klf) PDO Discs Date: 03 Jan 2002 16:25:46 +1100 Hi all, Can somebody with experience with sending discs with "laser rot" back to PDO give me a quick explanation of what that are and aren't willing to do? My copies of "Shag Times", "Chill Out", "Give Peace a Dance", and "Monty Python - The Final Rip-off" all have varying degrees of the problem. Thanks, Michael PS: Sorry if this arrives twice, but am I right in thinking that if you're not subscribed to the new list yet, then mail sent to the new address is not being forwarded? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ulrik Brandt" Subject: (klf) RE: Tattooed Beat Messiah (ot - sort of) Date: 03 Jan 2002 14:46:46 +0100 First of all: This is NOT "off Topic" The Tattoed Beat Messiah Album was produced by Bill Drummond and David Balfe (the chameleons). It's a very primitive rockalbum, with VERY stupid, but well written lyrics (stupid=funny). If you ever get the chance to buy this album: DO IT. By the way: What kind of info do you want, tracklit, linernotes, artwork????? Ulrik Salsa Claus is Coming to Town # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ulrik Brandt" Subject: (klf) Live at Club Baby Date: 03 Jan 2002 16:17:03 +0100 Just found this KLF/New Year-related info. "On New Years Eve 89/90, he managed to get The KLF to play an amazing 15 minutes version of 'what time is love?' (the biggest clug tune at the time) with a little known warm-up band called The Orb playing SHEEP NOISES to the bemused Danish pastries" Taken from the Chillout compilation "Music For Dreams", the "HE" refers to danish dj Kenneth Bager, founder of Coma -records, the company who released KLF in Denmark, I hope that this performance (both orb and klf) was recorded,and we manages to get hold on it, I've allready started searching Ulrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: guysmiley@breathe.com Subject: (klf) Love Trance... Date: 07 Jan 2002 17:54:38 BST Hello everyone, Happy New Year ! Just a quick email, I couldn't quite remember what the overall consensus was surrounding the Love Trance 12" which cropped up last year...I had a sneaky feeling that there were more than one of these 12"s knocking about - based purely on the number of recent bootlegs which have appeared recently (chill out, 1987, the 'live' album and Pure Trance 5)... does this mean we can eventually expect to see the missing Pure Trance 12"s surface ? I know no-one will have the answer to that question, but if anyone could just remind me what the score with Love Trance (Pure Trance 6) it would be much appreciated ! Cheerio Neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Scooter - Ramp ?? Date: 07 Jan 2002 20:53:27 +0100 (MET) hello I just downloaded the song and its pretty nice , but when it was @ 2.13= min. hp baxtor ( the singer ) says : The K the L the F, and the Ology= , from 3 am eternal ( live from the s.s.l ) . Can somebody confirm this? ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kubi Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter - Ramp ?? Date: 07 Jan 2002 20:06:42 +0100 Yes, it's taken (not sampled) from 3:am eternal. Originally spoken by R.Lyte. That's not for the first time Scooter copied something without giving any credits. kubi The KLF @Trancentral wrote: > hello > > I just downloaded the song and its pretty nice , but when it was @ 2.13 min. hp baxtor ( the singer ) says : The K the L the F, and the Ology , from 3 am eternal ( live from the s.s.l ) . > > Can somebody confirm this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) DJ Dominion vs KLF - What Time Is Love (Power Edit).mpg Date: 07 Jan 2002 21:17:54 +0100 (MET) hello Can any1 confirm the existance of that video? ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance... Date: 07 Jan 2002 20:38:17 -0000 Believe it was a one off, and not one of the recent bootleg issues... ...I got a CD copy from whoever was selling copies of it at the time - not bad! So, we probably won't see the rest of them (but we can still live in hope)! l8rs, Nick ;-) > Hello everyone, > > Happy New Year ! Just a quick email, I couldn't quite remember what the > overall consensus was surrounding the Love Trance 12" which cropped up > last year...I had a sneaky feeling that there were more than one of these > 12"s knocking about - based purely on the number of recent bootlegs which > have appeared recently (chill out, 1987, the 'live' album and > Pure Trance 5)... > > does this mean we can eventually expect to see the missing Pure Trance > 12"s surface ? > > I know no-one will have the answer to that question, but if anyone could > just remind me what the score with Love Trance (Pure Trance 6) it would > be much appreciated ! > > Cheerio > > Neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Any news regarding the live cd???? Date: 08 Jan 2002 10:36:53 +0100 (MET) hiya I was wondering if there was some new info around ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) DJ Dominion vs KLF - What Time Is Love (Power Edit).mpg Date: 08 Jan 2002 12:43:24 +0100 (CET) On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, The KLF @Trancentral wrote: > Can any1 confirm the existance of that video? Me, video contains just slideshow of photos. -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.alenka.cz/ ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: Re: (klf) Any news regarding the live cd???? Date: 09 Jan 2002 00:16:15 +1100 "The KLF @Trancentral" wrote: > > hiya > > I was wondering if there was some new info around YES!!! In breaking news, it's STILL a home-made bootleg sent only to a small number of press outlets! With -and you'll be excited to know that this has *just now* not changed one bit- NO INVOLVEMENT from Drummond or Cauty! Please ask again next week, when the answers will once more remain excitingly the same! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Anyone here knows a fast ftp which has the tops of the pops video's?? thnx Date: 08 Jan 2002 15:32:29 +0100 (MET) thanks ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) Re: Love Trance Date: 08 Jan 2002 16:17:28 +0000 Has anyone noticed that a second copy of Love Trance is up for sale @Ebay? Yer URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll ViewItem&item=1404598943 Maarten _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Explorer gratis van http://explorer.msn.nl/intl.asp. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon.erling.alten@computerland.no Subject: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 11:59:10 +0100 I haven been looking all over the Internet and have not fint it! I'am going CRAZY soon! Happy for an answer! Jon :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon.erling.alten@computerland.no Subject: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 12:32:41 +0100 I haven been looking all over the Internet and have not find it! I'am going CRAZY soon! Happy for an answer! Jon :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 format Date: 09 Jan 2002 06:53:41 EST > I haven been looking all over the Internet and have not find it! > I'am going CRAZY soon! mp3 is an audio format. Are you looking for the video or the song? Cant help either way, but you need to be clearer. -paul Currently in rotation: Too Much Joy - Live at Least; Fatboy Slim - Live at the Avalon, Boston # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 17:42:01 +0000 (GMT) On Wed 09 Jan, jon.erling.alten@computerland.no wrote: > I haven been looking all over the Internet and have not find it! > I'am going CRAZY soon! I don't have an answer either (luckily I have that KLF Compilation video tape), but I have a slightly-related question. I have been looking for stuff to play on my new DVD player, and just on the offchance, I tried the Timelords "Doctorin' The Tardis" 3-track CD-V, which I'd previously been unable to get to work on my PC either. To my surprise, it... still didn't work. Ah well. "Proper" Video CDs, such as the Pet Shop Boys "Videography", work fine. I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V format obsolete now? Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does anybody know how come "Doctorin' The Tardis" (but no other KLF releases) came to be produced in this format, manufactured in France, distributed in Scotland, on a format that nobody seems to have heard of, and why this release only seemed to appear two or three years ago? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 19:07:52 +0100 The Doctorin' video CD´s format can be played on the Philips CD-I device (which was later followed by the DVD technology). Unfortunately - or not - the CD-I never succeded in hitting the home television market with the impact the DVD did years later. cy@ Thomas > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does anybody know how come > "Doctorin' The Tardis" (but no other KLF releases) came to be produced > in this format, manufactured in France, distributed in Scotland, on a > format that nobody seems to have heard of, and why this release only > seemed to appear two or three years ago? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 18:41:52 -0000 > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does anybody know how come CD-V is NOT the same thing as CD video (which is what the phillips CD-i used to play) - essentially, CD-V was a way of recording an analogue video signal onto a CD-sized disk; you remember those huge 12" laser disks that home cinema buffs were into before DVD became popular? ...well, CD-V was basically a shrunk-down version of that. The actual video isn't stored in a "conventional" digital format, and there's no way to play it through a conventional CD-ROM based system (i.e. anything except one of those old arcane laser disk players...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 20:33:20 +0000 (GMT) --- Stuart Bruce wrote: > > > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V > format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does > anybody know how come > "Doctorin' The Tardis" (but no other KLF releases) > came to be produced > in this format, manufactured in France, distributed > in Scotland, on a > format that nobody seems to have heard of, and why > this release only > seemed to appear two or three years ago? Don't know about the rest of it but I bought my copy in early 90's, so there were copies around earlier.I also spent many fruitless hours trying to find out why my computer wouldn't play it until I found out it was in some obscure format. Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 format Date: 10 Jan 2002 00:32:39 The klf video doctor in the tardis can be downloaded at my home page. uddis.linuxgods.com You need to login with: mastersofstadiumhouse You will also find some other video and "some" music ;-) Happy dl Uddis have now left the building _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 09 Jan 2002 21:42:05 >CD-V is NOT the same thing as CD video (which is what the phillips CD-i >used >to play) - essentially, CD-V was a way of recording an analogue video >signal >onto a CD-sized disk; you remember those huge 12" laser disks that home >cinema buffs were into before DVD became popular? ...well, CD-V was >basically a shrunk-down version of that. The actual video isn't stored in a >"conventional" digital format, and there's no way to play it through a >conventional CD-ROM based system (i.e. anything except one of those old >arcane laser disk players...) any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games on Super Nes, etc...) ??? Steph _________________________________________________________________ Discutez en ligne avec vos amis, essayez MSN Messenger : http://messenger.msn.fr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 10 Jan 2002 08:08:58 +0000 (GMT) On Wed 09 Jan, Stephane MONTHIEU wrote: [re: CD-V of "Doctorin' The Tardis"] > any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games on Super Nes, > etc...) ??? Presumably not, based on what John said- the data will be stored on a disc in a way that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD drive simply won't read. So it's not a question of interpreting the data, it's a question of getting the data off the disc in the first place. You'd need hardware emulation (which might well not exist), rather than software emulation. If I remember rightly, when I tried the disc in my CD-ROM drive, it would recognise the three audio tracks without too much difficulty, but simply wouldn't acknowledge that there was anything else on the disc. But since I have a fairly good VHS copy, I'm not going to go out and hunt down an old Laserdisc player just for this one disc... Has anyone been thinking of putting together a bootleg KLF video-CD or DVD? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 20:24:08 +1100 hi all, disclaimer: I really have no idea about this stuff. > [re: CD-V of "Doctorin' The Tardis"] > > any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games > > on Super Nes, etc...) ??? > > Presumably not, based on what John said- the data will be stored on a > disc in a way that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD drive simply won't read. > So it's not a question of interpreting the data, it's a question of > getting the data off the disc in the first place. You'd need hardware > emulation (which might well not exist), rather than software emulation. what if you got the data off the disk, then read it? i use a program called EAC which to quote from the faq... >Q: What is EAC? >A: EAC is "Exact Audio Copy". It will help you to copy > (extract) audio tracks, or even parts of them, to the > harddisk. In newer versions it also includes some > audio CD writing routines and a small audio editor. i've used it to recover some badly scratched cd's. it can take all night, but the end result sounds perfect on my crap stereo so i'm happy. it generally makes wav files though. i havent tried it on a data cd. further ot: i've got moby's "disk" which has a multimedia component. i cant be bothered to dig it out now to read its specs, but i've never ever found a pc that it can play on. i've played it once on a mac, and it worked fine. just like it should. but on a pc, it just works as an audio cd. when its in a portable cd player, it only has the music tracks. there's no extra track[1] which you have to skip. from the sounds of it, it might be similar to the tardis cd. i havent actually tried copying it with eac - i might give that a go this weekend. if anybody's particularly interested, probably best to let me know by email. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 13:17:42 +0000 (GMT) Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. Moby's "Disk" multimedia component is data suitable for a CD-ROM drive, the problem there being getting the PC to look in the right place, rather than the actual act of getting the drive to read it at all. Hopefully somebody else can expand on this... So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any other singles put out in this format? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 14:46:25 +0100 Stuart Bruce: >Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from >John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not >even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate >into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal >CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. Or even to get a normal CD-ROM drive to read any data off a vinyl record. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 13:50:01 +0000 I used to have quite a lot of CDV movies (spent about six months working in Hong Kong about 2 years ago) as the format was really big there. They format wasn't very watchable though - the disks were often two sided, and thus needed to be turned over, and if there was a lot going on in the picture (eg almost any action film you care to name) the image REALLY pixilated - often to the point where it was unwatchable - totally ruined my first viewing of "Face-Off". Just my 2c after coming off the list after the huge arguments that were going on about six months ago.... Stuart Bruce wrote: > >Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from >John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not >even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate >into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal >CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. > >Moby's "Disk" multimedia component is data suitable for a CD-ROM drive, >the problem there being getting the PC to look in the right place, >rather than the actual act of getting the drive to read it at all. >Hopefully somebody else can expand on this... > >So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any >other singles put out in this format? > >Stuart. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 10:34:07 -0800 Stuart Bruce wrote: > > Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from > John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not > even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate > into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal > CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. EAC won't work with the video portion, although it is a wonderful tool for all things CD-audio. > So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any > other singles put out in this format? Yep. There were a number of them; I remember seeing the Timelords one, as well as a couple for the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, etc. Also, the David Bowie Sound and Vision boxed set had a "bonus" disc that included the video for Ashes To Ashes. That one is the only one I actually own. Of course, you also have the usual issues between PAL and NTSC...AFAIR, the singles I saw were fairly evenly split between UK and US releases. These CDs are playable in any laser disc player (assuming it is capable of playing 5" discs, and most of them were), but you simply can't play the video portion in anything else. If it matters, it should be reasonably cheap to pick up an old laser disc player second hand... BTW, discussion should probably migrate to the mailman version of this list; Lazlo will probably be shutting down the lists.xmission.com one at some point... Chris np: v/a - I (heart) Serge: Electronica Gainsbourg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 19:47:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Bruce > Sent: 10 January 2002 13:18 > To: KLF mailing list > Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV > So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any > other singles put out in this format? Mark Weston has a few CDV disks and the original player. All his disks (as far as I know) will play apart from the Doctorin The Tardis one. I really do wonder whether anyone has ever got one of these to play? Hopefully Mark can elaborate a little. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Does any of you cool klf fans know... Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:59:56 +0100 (MET) ......where I can download the top of the pops video's? I cant seem to find them :*( Many thanks! ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:25:40 +0000 Stuart Bruce writes >So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any >other singles put out in this format? AFAIK the first ever single released in this format was 'Listen Today' by Psychic TV. At least that`s what they always claimed and so presumably this is true! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:40:56 -0000 > REALLY pixilated - often to the point where it was unwatchable - totally > ruined my first viewing of "Face-Off". This was almost certainly a "Video CD" disk (the thing that CD-i players, home computers and CDVideo players can play), and not a "VCD" disk (the thing that doctorin the tardis is). The reasons for this deduction are: (1) Video CD is a horribly pixilated MPEG1-based video format, which is still a very popular distribution format in Hong Kong and India. and (2) VCD can only hold 6 minutes of video. That would be a really short film. John. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:40:55 -0000 > Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from > John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not > even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate > into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal > CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. That's correct - digital data is stored on CD as a series of "pits" and "not pits", representing binary digits - zeroes and ones. Laserdisk, IIRC, actually stores it's data by varying the gap between consecutive pits on the surface of the disk - the size of the gap corresponding to changes in the analogue waveform (!) ...as such, the analogy of trying to get a CD-ROM to read a vinyl disk was actually a pretty good one... (also, my memory might be letting me down on this, but I'm pretty sure that if you did a reverse seek on an LD player the machine achieved it by playing the disk backwards!!) The audio and video data on VCD disks were completely isolated, and recorded in seperate physical formats. The format flopped - I think there was only a couple of dozen titles released. However, I would guess that releasing a VCD would be a pretty canny marketing ploy, since the limited catalogue of available material would probably mean that anybody foolish enough to have bought a dedicated player would probably be desperate enough to snap up any VCD title they could get their hands on, irrespective of the artist! > Moby's "Disk" multimedia component is data suitable for a CD-ROM drive, > the problem there being getting the PC to look in the right place, > rather than the actual act of getting the drive to read it at all. > Hopefully somebody else can expand on this... I found that the only way I could read the multimedia stuff was using an old PC with CD-ROM DOS drivers installed - the windows CD drivers on the same machine wouldn't recognise it! ...I ended up copying the entire data portion via a DOS session (I think it's about 100 - 200 Meg) to hard disk, dropped back into windows and ran it from hard disk. Pretty tortuous procedure (and not for the technically illiterate!), but it's actually worth it - "disk" still puts a lot of todays "enhanced" CDs to shame! > So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any > other singles put out in this format? An electronics shop near me used to sell the format (this was in the late 80s) - the only thing I really remember was that the rack of available titles was laughably small, and they had a demo disk of madonna permanently fixed in the machine. I seem to recall that Front 242 released a CDV single (possibly headhunter?) somewhere along the line too... John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (klf) OT: CDV Date: 10 Jan 2002 16:47:24 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, John Shepherd wrote: > I found that the only way I could read the multimedia stuff was using an > old PC with CD-ROM DOS drivers installed - the windows CD drivers on the > same machine wouldn't recognise it! ...I ended up copying the entire > data portion via a DOS session (I think it's about 100 - 200 Meg) to > hard disk, dropped back into windows and ran it from hard disk. Pretty > tortuous procedure (and not for the technically illiterate!), but it's > actually worth it - "disk" still puts a lot of todays "enhanced" CDs to > shame! ahh, there's an idea. i've got "disk", too, and have never used the multimedia portion cuz i never got it to work. i will look into this. > An electronics shop near me used to sell the format (this was in the > late 80s) - the only thing I really remember was that the rack of > available titles was laughably small, and they had a demo disk of > madonna permanently fixed in the machine. I seem to recall that Front > 242 released a CDV single (possibly headhunter?) somewhere along the > line too... yep, 242's "headhunter" was a CDV. micah stupak /"\ laerm soulfood.org \ / the world is falling down international bright young kook X and it may as well crash ascii ribbon campaign / \ with me against html email # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire Subject: (klf) ** Important ** Last Call: Lists Moving To mailman.xmission.com Date: 10 Jan 2002 21:35:23 -0800 Hi everybody! This is final notice that the lists receiving this message= have moved to the Mailman mailing list software and a new= subscription/posting interface located at mailman.xmission.com. If you= haven't already subscribed to the list at its new home page (listed on the= http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo page) please do so= now. After the old lists are shut down (sometime in the next 24-48 hours, I= believe) posts sent to the old list addresses will *not* be forwarded to= the new lists, so please update your address listings. The old addresses= get loads of junk email messages every day, and the new lists will be much= easier to maintain if we make a clean start with new addresses. Thanks for your patience, and as always please let me know if you have any= questions or concerns about the move. s -- Ernie Longmire - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - www.studio-nibble.com -= /\/oo\/\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wakely Subject: (klf) Re: [KLF] Gnostic suppression and how it related to the Illuminatus Trilogy Date: 11 Jan 2002 14:21:12 +0000 A few minutes ago, I wrote: > If you believe people like XXX then the freemasons ARE the illuminati. Hmmm, somehow "the John Birch society" has been censored from my mail. How sinister! Or then again, maybe i couldn't remember their name at the time and forgot to correct it before sending the mail ;) -- "This Statement is False" (Courtesy of POEE) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Disco Dan Subject: (klf) RE: =?iso-8859-1?q?=28klf=29?= anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 Date: 13 Jan 2002 03:26:19 -500 > Presumably not, based on what John said- the data will be stored on a > disc in a way that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD drive simply won't read. > So it's not a question of interpreting the data, it's a question of > getting the data off the disc in the first place. You'd need hardware > emulation (which might well not exist), rather than software emulation. Though I'm coming in sort of late on this one, there's been a trend lately in VCDs (Video CDs) and SVCDs (Super Video CDs) that can play on both PCs and DVD players, but not ALL DVD players. If what you're talking about is really just something that can be read on a Laserdisc player then I'm way off track, but if it's a VCD, you'd see the file in windows explorer, though it would look like a DAT file in VCD format as opposed to mpg, or avi or whatever. Anyway, I'm probably barking up the wrong tree here but I thought I'd throw it in just in case it could be helpful. DC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adrian Gschwend" Subject: (klf) KLF Horn in a Goa Track Date: 22 Jan 2002 16:26:07 +0100 (CET) Hi all, Not sure if anyone cares about that but I just heard the well known KLF-Horn in a Goa track called: Deviant Species - Geb the Cackler Goa is also a very good kind of music for those of you who don't know it yet :-) (at least IMHO) cu Adrian -- Adrian Gschwend @ OS/2 Netlabs ICQ: 22419590 ktk@netlabs.org ------- The OS/2 OpenSource Project: http://www.netlabs.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Reed" Subject: (klf) The Idlers agony aunt page written by Bill Drummond & Zodiac Mindwarp Date: 27 Jan 2002 11:14:03 -0000 Mindwarp http://www.idler.co.uk/html/badadvice/badadvice.htm Bill & Zed offer Bad Advice & Bad Wisdom. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Reed" Subject: (klf) http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/thought010899.html Date: 29 Jan 2002 20:31:17 -0000 Kraftwerk, group of the century accoridng to Momus. Mark "Those who make peaceful revolutions impossible will make violent revolutions inevitable" President Kennedy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf