From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 10:53:49 +0100 (BST) On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, David Lindgren wrote: > I`m a bit interested in the "new" Timelordssingle ( new? oh yes...), is > anyone intyerested in trading it for a copy of KLF vs ENT 3 a.m. ? > Or perhaps " The Comeback ? " could be interesting? > What " "new" Timelords single"? ? NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 06:10:32 EDT > What " "new" Timelords single"? Just a reissue of TARDIS with the video tacked on. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 11:48:24 +0100 (BST) > > What " "new" Timelords single"? > > Just a reissue of TARDIS with the video tacked on. > > -paul Ah, you mean the re-press of the one that came out in 1988 then. It always DID have the video "tacked on". And it always was a mysterious item. Actually "re-press" might be the wrong word - lets just be careful and say reissue (they mnight be original pressings that have just been found in the back of a warehouse somewhere and redistributed). Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 07:51:04 EDT > Ah, you mean the re-press of the one that came out in 1988 then. > It always DID have the video "tacked on". And it always was a mysterious > item. [...] > Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. I wonder: why is it considered "mysterious?" What was unusual about it apart from it being a CDV? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 14:15:05 +0100 (BST) > > Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. > > I wonder: why is it considered "mysterious?" What was unusual about it apart > from it being a CDV? It originally came out late in 1988, some time after the single itself appeared. It isn't a native KLF Communications release (it has this Scottish Phonovision name on it), and KLF Communications never referred to its existence in their own documentation. I've never been quite sure whether or not to regard it as a bootleg, or as a sanctioned release. It was only a very short time after that KLF Comms issued Kylie Said To Jason on CD single, and there was no suggestion then of putting the video on it. So, I don't know if its an official release or not. It looks kinda semi-official. Maybe other people know of more of these phonovision releases for other labels/artits. I've seen a couple, and for major artists, and it strikes me that major label artists wouldn't allow another company to put their material out for them, whether or not they do include their own video. But on the other hand, the master tapes for the tracks have to come from somewhere, as does the tape for the video. So, I really don't know. That's why I call it mysterious. The one that is doing the rounds now, from all I have heard about it, is exactly the same as the one I bought back then. Whether repressed or just rediscovered, I don't know. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 15:38:32 +0100 Culf wrote: > But on the other hand, the master tapes for the tracks have > to come from somewhere, as does the tape for the video. > > So, I really don't know. That's why I call it mysterious. Well, if I was running my own record company and licencing my first no.1 single to a foreign label, I'd send them master tapes and a video for them to promote the single with - so it's doesnt seem mysterious to me. It's quite common for other countries to put slightly different tracklistings or cover artwork on a release to sell a few extra copies on export - a few examples should spring to mind... the 'wicker man' WTIL sleeve and the Autrian 'power' mixes, for example. My guess is that the disc is licensed to this label for some obscure territory, and the video was included to gain export sales... and they decided to do a re-press for the 10th anniversary, probably all destined for export. This would explain why (as with the American 'Chill Out' on TVT) it is not covered by the UK deletion of back-catalogue that happened when the KLF left the music industry. - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hvorostin 'SerH' Sergei" Subject: (klf) fnord mirror closedown Date: 30 Jun 1998 20:45:43 +0400 Hi all! FNord Mirror site news here: Due to the original fnord site returning, the backup mirror will be closed in the nearest future. Public login to this site is disabled, but private accounts are still exists. Now, the mirror IS synchronized with the fnord base - *many_thanks* for your uploads and an advance! (you know your names, ppl ! :) ). Stand by the events... ----- SerH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 01 Jul 1998 20:46:23 +0100 (BST) > Well, if I was running my own record company and licencing my first no.1 > single to a foreign label, I'd send them master tapes and a video for > them to promote the single with - so it's doesnt seem mysterious to me. > > It's quite common for other countries to put slightly different > tracklistings or cover artwork on a release to sell a few extra copies > on export - a few examples should spring to mind... the 'wicker man' > WTIL sleeve and the Autrian 'power' mixes, for example. Hmmm.. but there's no indication that this is a foreign territory single. The address of the company is Edinburgh (not UK), the phone number is in domestic style, not International. Al the copyright details pertain to KLF Comunications, and it has an almost-but-not-quite KLF catalogue number (KLF CD-003). If I were a foreign record company, I'd be using my own catalogue numbering scheme. Alas, I can't remember what numbers were on the other Phonovision releases I've seen (it was a long time ago). The only non-UK link is that it was pressed by MPO in France, but that was perfectly typical of UK independent labels around that time, as MPO offered the best detail for shorter runs. Curiously, I don't think Tardis was pressed by MPO. Actually, not many KLF Coms were. > My guess is that the disc is licensed to this label for some obscure > territory, and the video was included to gain export sales... and they > decided to do a re-press for the 10th anniversary, probably all destined > for export. It's possible I guess, but I don't think its the case. Whatever the original origins of the disk, I believe it's just been rediscovered in a warehouse somewhere. In what sort of range of places has it been seen? Nicola at least has a copy, who else and from where? For reference, the matrix on my original is KLF "CD 003 MPO 05 @@" Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Glasgow Record Shops Date: 02 Jul 1998 19:23:55 +0300 Hi guyz, i'm going to Glasgow for a week on July 10th, and i was wondering whether= someone on the list could inform me on where i could find good vinyl shops= (especially hip hop related or KLF of course). Thanx! Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daniel Subject: (klf) space, urt and who killed the jams for sale . Date: 02 Jul 1998 17:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Last time I will post this. There are 4 copies of each left. After that they will be gone. Email if interested... -daniel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- A while back I was in contact with someone who had copies of space, wktj, and a different version of ultra rare trax on cd. These were cdr copies . Anyhow, I sold a few to some listmembers and then the cds were no more. Well, I was contacted today and I was told that he has some more. These are cds that were left over from the sale and such. He isn't going to make anymore. To much of a hassle. All, of the CDS come with full color sleeves that are very similar to the original covers. Anyhow here is the scoop: WKTJ: The quality is very good. Please note that the original source was vinyl. Anyhow here is the tracklisting: The Candystore The Candyman Disaster Fund Collection King Boy's Dream The Porpoise Song Prestwich Prophet's Grin Burn The Bastards Whitney Joins The JAMS I Love Disco 2000 Down Town (remix) Burn The Beat (club mix) Prestwich Prophet's Grin (instrumental remix) The Porpoise Song (instrumental remix) Note: the last 6 tracks are from shag times and are also mastered from vinyl. Again the quality is very good. tracklisting for space: space america no more what time is love jerusalem on the moors lttt Also available is a burn of Ultra rare trax with a slightly different tracklisting. Quality is very good on this one. The bonus tracks are from cd and the other tracks are from the ultra rare trax cd tracklisting: 1. All you need is love 2. IGUN (for love not money mix) 3. what time is love 5. lttt (remix) 6. kylie said trance 7. gary glitter joins the jams 8. lttt (120 mix) 9. 3 am eternal klf vs. ent 10. magnificent - one world orchestra aka klf 11. 3am eternal - rankin club version 12. policy of truth please note that all the above cds are burns . Now for pricing: space: 20 dollars wktj: 20 dollars ultra rare trax: 20 dollars Shipping and handeling: if in the u.s: 1 cd - 3 dollars 2 cds - 4 dollars 3 cds - 5 dollars the rest of the world: 1 cd - 5 dollars 2 cds - 7 dollars 3 cds - 9 dollars If in the U.S. payment must be in the form of a money order. If from outside of the U.S. payment may in the form of cash (U.S. currency) or international money order. Please email me what you want to order so that I can have the items put on hold . I will then send payment info. if you have any questions feel free to email me. -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Cooper" Subject: (klf) request:new timelords single info Date: 03 Jul 1998 09:38:27 +0000 hi all just a quicky, could someone mail me personally to tell me what is known about the 'new' timelords single. i've been off list for a while, and i'm intrigued. i thought i'd do it this way to keep traffic down (y'see, i'm nice really !) thanx in anticipation peet Peter Cooper Tel: +44 1235 544081 Sophos plc Fax: +44 1235 559935 Mob/SMS: +44 958 195 290 peter.cooper@sophos.com http://www.sophos.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: FW: (klf) Re: The White Room Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:29:07 -0000 It's now nearly a month after this message was posted. Any update? (At least Marshall let's us know he hasn't forgotten about us, unlike a certain other CD peddler of our acquaintance.) > -----Original Message----- > From: 24 Hr. Service Station [SMTP:hour24@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 1998 12:48 AM > To: Hutchins, Danny T. - Rochester; KLF MAIL LIST > Subject: (klf) Re: The White Room > > > *** Warning : this message originates from the Internet *** > > > We are sending off the masters next week. > They have been tweeked even further than before. > I hope you will all be able to enjoy the disc soon. > > audio, > > Marshall > > This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Cooper" Date: 03 Jul 1998 15:54:07 +0000 hi peeps, sorry to be *totally* off subject, but does anyone out there know of any Prodigy mailing lists. Could you poss. mail me personally, keep traffic to a minimum etc. No more off subject, promise! Peet Peter Cooper Tel: +44 1235 544081 Sophos plc Fax: +44 1235 559935 Mob/SMS: +44 958 195 290 peter.cooper@sophos.com http://www.sophos.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) Purchasing Timelords Single Date: 03 Jul 1998 23:20:33 EDT Does anyone know of a largish reputable store from which I can mail order this? Thanx, Jarrod Freedomatic Systematic World Control Magnetic Genetic Tha Mad Control..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Stanbury Subject: (klf) First draft of paper online Date: 03 Jul 1998 13:27:15 -0400 Ok, I've been dormant for QUITE some time from the list. Most of that is because I've been so busy graduating from high school, and then doing all the post-graduation stuff like partying and summer-vacationing. BUT, the big KLF alalytical paper I was writing for my popular culture class is now finally online! It's at http://www.zerohour.net/klf Please bear in mind, it's just the first draft. It was satisfactory to submit for my final project for the class, particularly because I finished it the morning of our graduation, but by MY standards, it still needs a whole lot of work. Check it out, you'll see my silly little disclaimer when you go there. But anyway, I'd really appreciate any and all comments that everyone has, whether they be about incorrect "factual" information, or some idea/disagreement on my analysis. Whatever, just lemme know what you all think. And now, I'm off to Maine for a week. God, summer is so tough... Naggy reminder: http://www.zerohour.net/klf --Geo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tim richards <100720.1557@compuserve.com> Subject: (klf) records wanted Date: 04 Jul 1998 20:12:53 -0400 a friend is looking for the following KLF items : 656614 8 - 3AM ETERNAL (French release 12" on the Columbia owned Dance Pool Records) RR 17 - SWE MIX (double 12" dj compilation feat Downtown remix) 9031-72897-2 - What Time Is Love? (Austrian power remix CD) if anyone can help him with any of these please mail me thanx tim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Wanted.. Date: 05 Jul 1998 21:27:46 +0300 Hello all, Anyone have a spare copy of FTM 12" or WFTROM for sale? Let me know, thanks! Regards, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) To anyone who's asked for a CD-R from me Date: 05 Jul 1998 20:43:00 +0100 (BST) If you've sent, or are about to send, a cheque to me for the Kalevala CD-Rs that've been discussed on the list, _please_ contact me directly as there has been a _major_ problem with collecting post at the UK address I've given out. ie. it's all disappeared and there seems to be nothing I can do about it, besides making major complaints to the G.P.O. and things like that. I might have lost over one hundred quid's worth of stuff. The US address (Tom) is not affected; and Chris Barker, Mark Turner & Brian Harvey need not contact me as their cheques arrived before the problem seems to have begun. Sorry about the inconvenience, Stuart. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rene Virsik Subject: (klf) Pirate Radio Station 23 Date: 06 Jul 1998 11:45:47 +0200 (METDST) Heya all ! Guess what happend me yesterday ?! I was listening TOP-FUN (FUN-radio hitparade) and on the place 23 was Scooter with "How Much Is The Fish?". It's nothing unusual but after first 10 seconds of this song there was a break up and in this break I heard: "Hi ! This is Pirate Radio Station 23 ! Listen to this:" They played some instrumental song that I never heard before. After this they said: "This was Pirate radio Station 23. End." And the end of Scooters song appears. I never heard this Pirate Radio before. FUN--Radio is the most listened commercial radio in Slovakia. Hmmm.... Strange. Bye ! Rene (KLF) I've lived a lot and I've seen a lot and now I'm just letting go. I could point my fingers at the same old wrongs. The ones that we all know. But I've no love to give or hate to take. I hope you understand. And then I hear. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. o o \___/ (o o) . , . WE CAME A LONG TIME AGO . \ ` ' / . WE CAME FROM UP ABOVE ._` __^__ '_. [() ()] /_____\ E-mail: virsik@sco.svf.stuba.sk Oooo. Justified .oooO ( ) \ ( (_/ \_) SOMETIMES I FEEL I ALMOST KNOW, SOMETIMES I KNOW IT'S TIME TO GO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson Subject: (klf) back once again... Date: 06 Jul 1998 12:33:03 +0100 (BST) cool, thanks to Smiley, I'm back on the list, hopefully for a while longer 'till the next system mashup here. Anyways, whassup ? Whats the latest gossip since the past 6 months ? I do hope there's someone out there who has received something in the way of a White Room original soundtrack, if not from Marshall, at least from Mike - both have cashed the cheques I've sent (AGES ago), so whats the deal there ? - if this has been thrashed out fully on the list, I do apologise, please email me privately with an update - thanks. Any new snippets from the Bill&Jimmy camp ? Had something posted to me this morning about Pan-Sonic - is this the same as the Panasonic project Jimmy was involved in ? It was an offer from Mute, for one of 2 packages priced at 25 and 50 ukpounds. Any new material been uncovered in someones attic recently ? Did the Black Room demo get copied or witnessed by anyone else on the list ? living in eternal hope neil (neil.sampson@gecm.com) PS - Sorry to all, but the KAUSE is well & truly lost. If anyone else lent videos for the project, please contact me and I'll get them posted back - thanks again for your help. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lars Nellemann Subject: (klf) back once again... Date: 06 Jul 1998 13:49:55 +0200 >in the way of a White Room original soundtrack, if not from Marshall, at least >from Mike - both have cashed the cheques I've sent (AGES ago), I got word from Marshall that the WROST was mailed today :-) >Any new material been uncovered in someones attic recently ? Then there's the mp3 project :-), check out mthis url for more info and tracklistings - there's a few unreleased things. http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) back once again... Date: 06 Jul 1998 05:23:16 PDT Hi all, I'm back (I was also known as Stephane Monthieu from Velizy, France). I would like to know what is the "new" Timelords single: is it avaible? And what about Mike and his CD-R? I don't have any answer but he has taken my money!... Thanx to reply me... Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Paukstadt Subject: (klf) THIS IS WHAT THE KLF IS ABOUT I Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:37:53 +0200 (MEST) HY HY Last Saturday I went to a little recordstore called "comeback" in Darmstadt, Germany (near Frankfurt) and found the "THIS IS WHAT THE KLF IS ABOUT I"-box. I paid 50 DM for it (around 30 US$). Three CDs and the Booklet but the sticker is missing. - Are there any translations of these Japanese Booklet on the web? - If not, could anyone translate this booklet? - How looks that sticker mentioned in the discography? BYtE Oli +++the jungle near manaos - the amazonas full of piranhas - the birds of++ +++paradies - disapear into the green desert - for years an years we're+++ +++hungry and desperate - for the only thing worth living - the E> Subject: RE: (klf) back once again... Date: 06 Jul 1998 14:23:46 +0200 >>in the way of a White Room original soundtrack, if not from Marshall, at least >>from Mike - both have cashed the cheques I've sent (AGES ago), >I got word from Marshall that the WROST was mailed today :-) Ive heard that one before. Ill believe it when its on my doorstep. As for Mike, well if someone gives him a call, please tell him im still waiting for those CDs of his. He took the $120 i sent him in a flash, but seems to have some trouble motivating himself to go mail them out... Some people really need a good kick in. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) A weird video Date: 06 Jul 1998 17:43:34 EDT Someone today was describing a KLF video to me today, and i was wondering if someone could identify it for me... "There are two ppl in munk outfits coming out of a submarine ... there is a large trunk sticking out of their coats where the face is supposed to be .... " does anyone know what this is?? J/\RROD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Neil Kelly" Subject: RE: (klf) A weird video Date: 06 Jul 1998 19:50:21 -0400 Justified and Ancient. > > Someone today was describing a KLF video to me today, and i was > wondering if > someone could identify it for me... > > "There are two ppl in munk outfits coming out of a submarine ... > there is a > large trunk sticking out of their coats where the face is > supposed to be .... > " > > does anyone know what this is?? > > neilbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Don" Subject: (klf) Tanks and Cauty Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:02:05 +1000 The Discovery channel covers the use and changes to tanks on the road tonight. Possibly Cauty is covered? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (klf) back once again... Date: 07 Jul 1998 04:22:21 +0300 Bizzzare, in his unique way stated: Welcome back mate! Mike has disappeared unfortunately, with our money. We got our LSOM2= from=3D Marshall, which means we can trust him. They're excellent by the way. This guy, who i wouldn't like to chaacterize, with the Black Room demos= did=3D not show up after his honest promise to sample the tape on the Internet. ***k him. Otherwise, the list as been deadly silent. By the way Neil, it's payback time. I send YOU mixtapes this time. mail me for your address. Neil, asked about Mike and Marshall and amongst others: >> >Any new material been uncovered in someones attic recently ? Did= the=3D >> Black >> >Room demo get copied or witnessed by anyone else on the list ? >> > >> >living in eternal hope >> > >> >neil (neil.sampson@gecm.com) Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics, Video= Games Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) back once again... Date: 06 Jul 1998 21:34:15 EDT > >I got word from Marshall that the WROST was mailed today :-) > > Ive heard that one before. Ill believe it when its on my doorstep. Yeah, mailed out to us or mailed out to the pressing plant... again (which was reportedly done a month ago). -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) Marshall and Mike Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:06:38 +0200 (MET DST) To whom it might concern. Please note: All opinions stated below (except the quoted ones) are my personal opinion only. Yes, I know I have a big mouth, and if you think I am wrong with what I write, just say so, I will listen and consider what you say. Please do not start a flame war. Thanks. - Erik - At 21:34 06.07.1998 EDT, you wrote: >> >I got word from Marshall that the WROST was mailed today :-) >> Ive heard that one before. Ill believe it when its on my doorstep. >Yeah, mailed out to us or mailed out to the pressing plant... again (which was >reportedly done a month ago). >-paul Mailed to the pressing plant. Please keep in mind that last time the pressing plant took 6 (yes, six) months to make LSOM2. Of course Marshall changed to another pressing company this time. I hope. On the subject of Mike, he has the complete equipment at home (or so he says), and I haven't seen any reason yet why he should take so long. Especially since we all payed a fortune for his CDs. I use the same blanks, and I get them for 1 pound and 11 pence each, although I'm willing to admit that if they are specially taxed for non-computer burners they might go up to 4 quid maximum each. While Marshall's professionally made CDs cost us a lot less (and he has to pay for a run of 500 out of the 150 he can sell to the list). But I'm still fascinated by the outstanding quality of Mike's CDs, I still think they are worth their money, and I hope he will make another run of CDs containing the Chill Out megamixes. On the other hand I still remember the old FAQ and messages that said "I sent money to Mike Dutton for the TIWTKAA* video and never got anything in return" which were already old but still valid when I joined the list back in '96 plus I found people who had traded with him before and decided never to deal with this unrelieable person again. Possible excuses: too much work/broken burner: All he has to do is buy some blanks of the loads of cash we all sent him, shove them into his burner at home and make the damned CDs. If his burner is broken, he should have it fixed by now. If I'm not mistaken he mentioned it was new, so it should be guaranteed. no email access: Why doesnt he email us? No access to AOL is a plausible excuse, as AOL (and this is not only a personal opinion but proven truth) STINKS, but for this long time virtually impossible. Plus, there are other and better ways. How about trying the tv commercial "how to get onto the internet in 3 easy steps"? other possible excuses: Is he sick? No reason for not telling us. Is he dead? Unlikely, at least somebody would have heard when phoning him. Does he have no time? Well, if he was doing it for laughs, for a apple and an egg as we say in Germany, no problem, but he is making a fortune for our CD orders. The necessary material to make a CD-R can't cost him more than 6 quid each including the (very nice by the way) inlays. With each of the 3 CDs limited to 100 copies you can figure out how many times we payed his CD-writer. My personal guess is about 7 times, but this is suggesting the CD-Rs are expensive and the the burner was expensive as well. So he fucking owes us the time to finish our orders. Of course he might have been caught by the MCPS and got a life sentence for not sharing profits with them. Wouldn't that be a laugh. Having said that, it is of course his very own choice how much to charge for a CD, and I was perfectly happy to pay the money (even though I'm so broke now I can't afford the .mp3 collection I would have bought). I just want the fucking CD that I payed for! How about some members of this list who don't live too far from him team up and pay Mike a visit. Find out face to face what's going on. Again I'd like to mention that I was very pleased with the Arkive CDs and I recommend buying them. sorry for the lengthy mail. sorry for the poor spelling/wording. :-) erik *=This Is What The KLF Are About # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) Marshall and Mike Date: 07 Jul 1998 06:32:13 PDT Erik wrote: >How about some members of this list who don't live too far from him >team up and pay Mike a visit. Find out face to face what's going on. > I think it's a good idea to visit him and see what's the f*** is going on. In an e-mail Mike wrote that he had some problems to connect him on the list. But it was a long time ago... How many people have send him money? Maybe we must all do something... Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson Subject: (klf) White Room movie... Date: 07 Jul 1998 12:06:00 +0100 (BST) Just a quick thought, did anyone manage to get a *good* copy of the White room movie at all, the copies I've got are OK, but still leave a lot to be desired. neil (the perfectionist) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) Marshall and Mike Date: 07 Jul 1998 18:00:21 +0300 Hi all, erik wrote: > But I'm still fascinated by the outstanding quality of Mike's CDs, I still > think they are worth their money, and I hope he will make another run of > CDs containing the Chill Out megamixes. About the 'Chill Out megamixes', i once wrote to Mike asking him what happened with them? As i remember first he said that they will be on his 'TWROST' and then he removed them for the 'Film/Demo mixes' and this is what he said: 'The Alex Paterson mixes that I spoke about are the 'Film/Demo mixes' that are on 'Waiting (Some More)'..I can't say for 100% that they are by Alex, so I decided to re-name them in case people start moaning!' Don't know if this true or not i just thought i'll share.. :) Regards, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il http://members.forfree.at/~boredman/index.html 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-Terje Vellene Subject: (klf) Lars' mp3-cds Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:08:17 +0200 i too have ordered Lars Nelleman's CDs, and I received them a week or so after I mailed the money to him. Now, that's what I call good service, plus the fact that the cds are awesome. I thought I had a lot of KLF stuff, but it's clear I've only started to scratch the surface... Time to head off to the used record shops :) btw: It may be possible this has been discussed to death without me noticing, but where do the White Room film segments come from originally ? And the White room soundtrack clips ? Jan-Terje -- oO=A8Oo. 'o 'o OO'. OO O oOOOo. .oo. .oo. OOOo OOo .oOO=A4o .o. OOO.O=A4' Oo.O=A4' Oo OO oOOOo .OO=A4o.o=A4' oOOOoooO''=A4o O''=A4o O'oOo OO 'o 'O=A4. =A4=A4=A4=A4' '=A4OO' '=A4OO' 'Oo.'o' 'Oo.'=A4oOO=A4'' Soothe: http://home.sol.no/~jantv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xavier Ehret Subject: RE: (klf) Marshall and Mike Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:42:19 +0200 Thx Eric, uve more or less summed up how i feel about this whole story. While marshall is endeveouring into dangerous and treacherous grounds, the 'bootleg' domain, which in my personal view is the only thing that can justify such a late delivery of the goods, and im prepared to live with that as Marshall as proved his commitment and his honesty in the past (and the quality of his CDs); but Mike, for fuck sake, youre making a CD R on your bloody Home computer, which takes maximum one hour. Ive burned thousands of CDrs myself, so dont tell me yours is broken because of the workload. If it is, take it back and get a new one. Its not like ure broke or anything, not with the shitload of money ive sent you !! Sheeshh .... if anyone gets him on the phone, or meets him face to face, please tell him that hes abused my patience long enough. Time for some action Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xavier Ehret Subject: RE: (klf) White Room movie... Date: 07 Jul 1998 16:22:33 +0200 >Just a quick thought, did anyone manage to get a *good* copy of the White room >movie at all, the copies I've got are OK, but still leave a lot to be desired. Hey Neil and all others on the list, well thanks to someone on this list, i managed to get my hands on a first generation tape of the White Room Movie, and i must say the quality is mint perfect. I was told at the time that these were the tapes that were shown to the German investors, and eventually turned down :(, and from the sheer quality of the movie, i can only believe it to be true. I believe there are only 8 in existence. So there, they do exist :) Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JTaylor Subject: (klf) KLF White Room Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:23:33 -0400 > How do I get a copy of that movie?? > Also I can't seem to find a bookstore that carries "Bad Wisdom" and > "Illuminatus!Trilogy" > > James Taylor of the USofA > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian j parker Subject: Re: (klf) KLF White Room Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:44:46 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, JTaylor wrote: > > Also I can't seem to find a bookstore that carries "Bad Wisdom" and > > "Illuminatus!Trilogy" amazon.com carries the Illuminatus! trilogy, as I'm sure a number of smaller bookstores do. It's not an uncommon book. I've never seen Bad Wisdom, though. brian j parker dj, computer geek, & black-clad cliche http://www.pitt.edu/~bjpst6 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Marshall and Mike Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:54:08 -0500 > >While marshall is endeveouring into dangerous and treacherous > grounds, > >the 'bootleg' domain, which in my personal view is the only thing > that > >can justify such a late delivery of the goods, and im prepared to > live > >with that as Marshall as proved his commitment and his honesty in the > >past (and the quality of his CDs); > > ...dangerous territory it is. For those who don't remember the entire > pressing of the WROST was confiscated at the Canadian border. He > doesn't get a refund for the confiscated discs either. That meant > starting over, almost from the very beginning. The time between has > been used to improve the sound quality and art. I know in the end we > will all be quite pleased with the end result. Though deadlines have > slipped Marshall always delivers a quality product. > > > >but Mike, for fuck sake, youre making > >a CD R on your bloody Home computer, which takes maximum one hour. > Ive > >burned thousands of CDrs myself, so dont tell me yours is broken > because > >of the workload. If it is, take it back and get a new one. Its not > like > >ure broke or anything, not with the shitload of money ive sent you !! > > I'm still waiting for my CD or at least an update. > > Regards, > Don > > "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." > D. Banner > > DONALD D GAGEN > MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM > ENSEMBLE STUDIOS > http://www.ensemblestudios.com > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: protobleep@wwdg.com Subject: (klf) klf tees update Date: 07 Jul 1998 11:33:55 -0600 hello. thanks for interest in the t-shirts. maybe i will code a small html-page with pictures of the design and upload it to geocities? the font will be compacta (its compacta condensed bold, i think) and the printing will be either done by myself (handscreen!, which means the print doesnt wash out) or a friend of mine will print them in a factory. i know there was a longsleeve, but i dont get to wear longsleeved t-shirts very much. if i know more (price, how much etc.), i will write it. okay, thanks so far. cheers. prt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan DeWitt Subject: Re: (klf) KLF White Room Date: 07 Jul 1998 12:31:30 -0400 > > > > How do I get a copy of that movie?? > > > > Also I can't seem to find a bookstore that carries "Bad Wisdom" and > > > > "Illuminatus!Trilogy" You can order 'Bad Wisdom' online from Penguin UK @ http://www.penguin.co.uk/penguin/books/0140261184.html Be warned that it does cost quite a bit to send it to the States. Nathan. -- http://www.mindspring.com/~freek/ [Homepage] http://www.mindspring.com/~freek/pop-up.html [Pop-Up Video] http://www.freek.com/~freek [Atari Teenage Riot] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson Subject: (klf) simon daw... Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:32:29 +0100 (BST) Simon, Can you contact me again, I've lost all my emails (yet again). By the way, what's the consensus on the new Pan-Sonic stuff, any good ? Any relevance ? neil PS - I'll try not to do this again - promise ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) things.. Date: 07 Jul 1998 10:59:38 PDT Hello everybody, got some things to tell & ask... First, to the (8) people waiting for their videos ( 2K/KLF videocompilation " The Comeback ? ") From the people I´ve already `closed` deals with by email I`ve gotten the stuff, you know who you are. Unfortunately you`ll have to wait for at least 2 more weeks before getting them, the main reason comes below When I for about 1 month ago told the list that I was going to produce more copies of the earlier mentioned video, I said I would only do it if there was at least 10 people wanting ( it has sold over 40 copies when I sold it back in 97`). Then I got 21 replies from ppl telling me how much they like to have it, now I`m down to 8... 3 of the 13 missing told me they didn`t want it cos I couldn`t do it in NTSC (or something) format, that OK. But 10 ppl who hasn`t even replied simply don`t want it, and thats why the ppl who still wants it will have their copies in less good condition, as I now can`t hire the expensive equipment I was planning to hire with the $ from 10 buyers. Also the ppl will have to wait longer as I now will have to find cheaper equip. or simple copy them from one cassette to another. Anyway, the cassettes will be with you in ab. 2 weeks, as said earlier... - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Paukstadt Subject: (klf) c't-magazine Date: 07 Jul 1998 21:07:24 +0200 (MEST) HY HY In the german Computer-Magazine c't No. 14/98 are descriptions of different share- and freeware-tools. On page 112 is a shreenshot of the Media-Player YAMP. The MP3-File played is (KLF)-3 _AM_ETERNAL-GUNS_OF_MU_MU.MP3 BYtE Oli +++the jungle near manaos - the amazonas full of piranhas - the birds of++ +++paradies - disapear into the green desert - for years an years we're+++ +++hungry and desperate - for the only thing worth living - the E> Subject: Re: (klf) KLF White Room Date: 07 Jul 1998 15:45:22 -0500 (CDT) Also try http://www.bookzone.co.uk Don't know if it is cheaper. Might be though On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Nathan DeWitt wrote: > > > > > Also I can't seem to find a bookstore that carries "Bad Wisdom" and -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Wood" Subject: (klf) White Room Movie Date: 07 Jul 1998 22:50:59 +0100 Having read the correspondance about the White Room Movie, (Which I didn't think existed anymore) I just want to know if there is anywhere or anybody selling copies of it? If there is please let me know because I would be interested in a copy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "j. gura" Subject: (klf) the book Date: 07 Jul 1998 17:24:12 PDT I'm looking for a little info on "the k-foundation burn a million quid" book. Does anyone know anything of Chris Book or the other named editor - such as how the book came about - and how much B&J had a hand in the book? Any reviews from list members? I've been trying to get a copy online from amazon, but they haven't any in stock at the momment. lentil@omino.com http://www.omino.com/~lentil -- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf From: Lars Nellemann Subject: (klf) White Room Movie is included on the mp3 collection Date: 08 Jul 1998 10:52:17 +0200 >Having read the correspondance about the White Room Movie, (Which I didn't >think existed anymore) I just want to know if there is anywhere or anybody >selling copies of it? Well, it's been mentioned a couple of times before, The whole movie is included at the third CD-ROM in the mp3 collections set, please look up this url: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEF Subject: (klf) That c**t Dutton Date: 08 Jul 1998 11:13:37 +0000 There is now no answer at all on Dutton's phone, not even an answerphone. It doesn't matter that apparently "he's not normally this bad"; maybe this is his one last big scam and he and the missus have left the country on the proceeds... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xavier Ehret Subject: RE: (klf) That c**t Dutton Date: 08 Jul 1998 12:34:10 +0200 >There is now no answer at all on Dutton's phone, not even an >answerphone. It doesn't matter that apparently "he's not normally this >bad"; maybe this is his one last big scam and he and the missus have >left the country on the proceeds... Has anyone actually received the Arkive II and The White Room OST CDs from Mike ? If so, can you please contact me ? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 09 Jul 1998 00:54:09 +0000 > It's possible I guess, but I don't think its the case. Whatever the original > origins of the disk, I believe it's just been rediscovered in a > warehouse somewhere. In what sort of range of places has it been seen? > Nicola at least has a copy, who else and from where? > For reference, the matrix on my original is KLF "CD 003 MPO 05 @@" Fopp, the Scottish based record chain where the disc is available, is very well known for re-licensing and repressing people's back catalogues and selling them very cheaply. The shops are full of stands of old funk, jazz, soul, etc LPs. You go in one week and the stands are full of Sly and The Family Stone LPs, the next time its SunRa. As far as I knew, all they had produced so far was vinyl, but I could be wrong, maybe they've done other CDs. However they do sell remaindered, old warehouse stock as well, so still compare the sleeves. cheers, Stuey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: (klf) thee live appearances webpage updated Date: 09 Jul 1998 00:57:25 +0000 just to let you know that my KLF live appearances page at: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/klf/live.htm has been updated, and a reminder to anyone with any additions to get in touch. stephen@hk.net and moo@mip.ou.dk hope you don't mind me quoting you. the press clippings database has also been updated BTW. Stuey .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ now completely updated with portfolio of my websites etc. .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Holly M. Laux" Subject: (klf) mini disc, etc Date: 09 Jul 1998 00:59:19 -0600 howdy. i just bought a mini disc recorder/player and i love it. people have mentioned trading stuff before, so if you're interested, drop me a line. klf bit: Platteville Wisconsin (population 5000 + 5000 univ students) won Walt Disney World's "My Town USA" contest and had a huge Mickey parade and a bunch of lame fireworks. During the parade, one of the middle school bands, from a town of no more than 1500-some people actually played an acid-brass-ish version of WTIL. Hot damn. I just never thought to hear that song played by a small school band in the middle of nowhere, where it had the chance to be on national tv. I was wearing my Fuck The Millenium t-shirt and tried to get on camera, but i think they saw me coming and moved away from my section of the crowd.The shirt didn't seem to go over so well with the parents of the 30,000 kids that were milling about, oh well. a question: just bought the orb's "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond the Call of Duty" anyone know if this is rare (i've never seen it before)? later kris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) items for trade Date: 09 Jul 1998 01:52:45 PDT Hi All, I've got some stuffs for trade: - "Give peace a dance" compilation - "Justified & Ancient" french CD - "Fuck the Millennium" french promo CD Please make me offer privately 8-) Cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Klauninger Subject: (klf) Mike Dutton Date: 09 Jul 1998 12:09:27 +0200 (METDST) Hi everybody! Sorry to bother you people on the list with this, but I've been trying to mail Mike Dutton at MWD586@aol.com for quite a while without any result. So I've ordered the Arkives I+II and sent off the mail order about 3 months (!) ago. Until today, I did not even get confirmed that Mike has got the money. Mike: If you read this please mail me about the status of my order as soon as possible. "It's better to burn out than it is to fade away" (Neil Young) ****************************************************** * Bert Klauninger - Student of Computer Science at * * the Technical University of Vienna * ****************************************************** * Mail: e9425541@stud1.tuwien.ac.at * * HP: http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9425541/ace.html * ****************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Waiting for Dutton Date: 09 Jul 1998 04:21:16 PDT Just want to add that I am also waiting for a video and three CDs from Mike Dutton, for which I sent him about $175 months and fucking months ago. Can someone actually go around to his house and hassle him? It's a bit of a swim from here... Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) the book Date: 09 Jul 1998 07:23:48 PDT Hello everybody, >I'm looking for a little info on "the k-foundation burn a >million quid" book. > >Does anyone know anything of Chris Book or the other named >editor - such as how the book came about - and how much B&J had >a hand in the book? If anyone has any information about this, please reply to the list, as I also would be interested.... - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) Test and question as well... Date: 09 Jul 1998 18:53:24 +0200 Hello there, I've just joined the KLF mailing-list, mostly out of curiousity but also 'cause I need to know a thing or two about the cd(s?) 'Waiting for the rites/rights of Mu'... Well, on to the testing bit then. Testing, testing... hm, seems to be working fine. Ok, then we have the question(s). I try to keep kinda updated with the stuff available with the KLF (or what ever they choose to call themselves), but I seem to have missed one thing (prob'ly quite a bunch of things, really, being a semi-newbie) and that is the cd 'Waiting for the rites of Mu' or maybe 'Waiting for the rights...'. I first noticed it when I scanned thru a swedish recordshop's online-catalog and I didn't have a clue about it. Then I started to search the discographies on the 'net, but came up with nothing. I found one reference to the cd on a website, where the siteowner said it was some ltd.ed. thingy, released in 800 copies or something. The thing is, this record shop I spoke of has four different (?) cds. Two of them are called 'Waiting for the rights...' and they are the two lowest priced. The other two are called 'Waiting for the rites...' and are a tad more expensive. I don't have the money to order all of them, so I'd need a little info about the whole lot, really. I suppose the 'rights' cds are the same, only from different import places, and I guess the 'rites' cds are also the same two cds. BUT, is there any difference between 'rights' and 'rites' or is this only an error in the catalog? What do you think? Anyway, if this really is as rare as 800 copies, I don't hope to obtain one through that store. (but I sure will try :-) Well, that's it from me at this time... Pls help... //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) the book Date: 09 Jul 1998 18:00:27 +0100 David Lindgren wrote: > >Does anyone know anything of Chris Book or the other named > >editor the other editor is better known as Gimpo > If anyone has any information about this, please reply to the list, > as also would be interested.... well, http://www.ellipsis.co.uk/k/index.html is the official site I've read a copy if there is anything specific you want to know... - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon masciana Subject: (klf) Give Peace a Dance 2cd set for sale Date: 09 Jul 1998 19:17:57 -0700 Hello all, This compilation seemed to be a hot item on the list a few months ago, I actually found yet another copy (at the same store!) I don't know how this stuff ends up over here in SD, but if you're interested, email an offer. I'm not sure if anyone is still interested... It has 29 tracks on it, but the tracks that you guys are probably most interested in are: Moody Boys (with Jimi Cauty)--Free Gary Clail/On-U Sound System-Karen Silkwood Car Coldcut-Stop This Crazy thing (hedmaster mix) massive Attack-Daydreaming (extended mix) Bocca Juniors (A Weatherall/Farley, etc)-Raise (Tackhead mix) Orb-Little Fluffy Clouds (Ambient MK1---the BEST mix!!! It's not on any other format) Sun Electric-O'Locco (Kama Sutra mix) Shamen-Hear me (Orbital mix) Baby ford-Change (DFWMN mix)--Peter Ford rules.... :o) Apollo Xi (orb)-Peace 7" version S'Express-Brazil (vocal)--mark moore rules... Fraser Clarke-Irresistible Force-War and Peace (edit) KLF-What Time Was Love (it's an explosion--it's not very interesting, but hey...) Take care (sorry for the cross post..) Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 05:02:49 +0200 As I said in my posting before this one, I'm new to this list and also kind of new to KLF-collecting (no, I haven't got anything I want to get rid of :-)... Anyway, I thought I'd try to get hold of some kind of mp3-collection. I saw this danish guy's (Lars Nellerman) 3cd-pack and said to myself 'Hey, let's see if the people on the KLF-list has anything to say about this!'. Well, do you? Good, bad, too expensive, too cheap(?), trustworthy, not trustworthy... whatever. Should I turn my attention elsewhere or is this my man? BTW, the url is http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm if anyone else, besides me, is interested in what he has to offer. Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) History of the Jams Date: 09 Jul 1998 23:50:36 EDT Just found an album on TVT Records, Timelords - History of the Jams. It's from around 1989, and it looks as if it was domestically produced. Is this the full original album? If not, what are the differences between this cd and the original cd/vinyl? If this is in fact the same album, I'd love to buy it, but not if it's like the US release of White Room. Any information would be appreciated. Thanx, Jarrod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: (klf) item for sale Date: 10 Jul 1998 14:15:11 +0200 hi there i've recently found an extra copy of energy - dj's in the house including klf 'build a fire' (lenny dee mix) btw, i still have the eternity project one vinyl album please email me with offers cheers, niko. -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman "Life's too short for boring music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) History of the Jams Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:55:20 +0200 At 23:50 1998-07-09 -0400, you wrote: >Just found an album on TVT Records, Timelords - History of the Jams. It's >from around 1989, and it looks as if it was domestically produced. Is this >the full original album? <> >Jarrod Should be the full original album. "The history of the JAMs" from TVT has the following data in discography I have: CD: 1988 US (TVT Records TVT 4040 CD) 5:01 All You Need Is Love 4:07 Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 7:10 Whitney Joins The JAMS 5:17 Porpoise Song [instrumental; =118 bpm/dance mix] 4:29 Down Town 3:29 Candyman 6:31 Burn The Beat [including chines outro + ford] 3:39 Doctorin' The Tardis 3:26 Gary In The Tardis [CD only] Then we have the other version: CD: 1989 OZ (...VPCD 6797) 4:40 All You Need Is Love 4:01 Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 5:42 Disaster Fund Collection 3:49 Burn The Beat [slightly extended 7" mix; labeled "Whitney"] 5:17 Porpoise Song 4:24 Down Town 3:29 Candyman 6:31 Burn The Bastards (the long version) [w/chimes outro + ford] 3:35 Doctorin' The Tardis Apart from the obvious differences, like the tracks :-) I don't know the story about VPCD 6797, but I do have the TVT 4040CD, which is fairly easy to come across, at least here in Sweden :) and it's cheap as well (well, no records are cheap in Sweden). It costs around $18 here. That's what you pay for any standard cd in Sweden :-((( Oh, BTW. Do any of you guys have a more recent and up-to-date discography than Lazlo Nibble's from '93? Would appreciate it :) Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) trade... Date: 10 Jul 1998 07:02:45 PDT Hi all, still to trade: -"give peace a dance" 2CD Set -"J&A" french CD -"FTM" french promo CD and new "The White Room" french CD make me offer 8-) Cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 16:30:45 +0200 At 17:37 1998-07-09 -1000, you wrote: >wasnt he asking like $70 US for the 3cd set? Too expensive, in my >opinion. You figure the 3 cds cost him $0-$6 and sure, he had to buy a >burner and all, but i wouldnt pay any more than $30 FIRM. I visited that >website and when i saw the price I said "Forget it!" Sure, I agree. It's expensive. I wouldn't be offended if he lowered the prices to =A325. BTW, the price in US$ is roughly $15-20 higher than the UK=A3 prices. :) Anyway, I'd still like to know if anyone out there have these cds and what you think of them. Or if you have any better ideas of obtaining KLF-mp3s... (I've leeched the Mancentral dry) Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a =20 Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" =20 S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf=20 SWEDEN =20 mfrsv95@student.hv.se =20 http://www.frid.home.ml.org =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: protobleep@wwdg.com Subject: (klf) mp3 -> wav? Date: 10 Jul 1998 08:48:32 -0600 hello. i think the klf-mp3-collection is quite cool, but am i able to convert the mp3-files to .wav or .aiff, etc.? just listening to the tracks on my pc via mp3-player would be boring (soundblaster->pcspeaker sucks). are there any programs, that can convert mp3-files to other formats? thanks, prt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) mp3 -> wav? Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:39:53 +0200 At 08:48 1998-07-10 -0600, protobleeb wrote: >i think the klf-mp3-collection is quite cool, but am i >able to convert the mp3-files to .wav or .aiff, etc.? If you're using WinAmp (and maybe other players as well) you can alter the output; like wavfile, wavemapper etc. Mail me personally if you need any further help with this. Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anders@algonet.se (Anders Hultman) Subject: Re: (klf) mp3 -> wav? Date: 10 Jul 1998 21:38:16 +0500 >i think the klf-mp3-collection is quite cool, but am i >able to convert the mp3-files to .wav or .aiff, etc.? > >just listening to the tracks on my pc via mp3-player would >be boring (soundblaster->pcspeaker sucks). > >are there any programs, that can convert mp3-files to other >formats? On my Mac I have a program called "MPecker Drop Decoder" that converts MP3 to AIFF. Similar programs are probably available for Windows as well, and with a CD burner, you can make regular audio CD:s out of them. Be aware, though, that the sound quality will be lower than with genuine CD:s. anders http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) History of the Jams Date: 10 Jul 1998 16:42:31 EDT > Oh, BTW. Do any of you guys have a more recent and up-to-date discography > than Lazlo Nibble's from '93? Would appreciate it :) As listed in the footer of every message: # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf Last updated May 10th. Drop the for other discogs of possible interest. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 16:44:54 EDT > Anyway, I'd still like to know if anyone out there have these cds and > what you think of them. Or if you have any better ideas of obtaining > KLF-mp3s... (I've leeched the Mancentral dry) http://klf.juniorboy.com -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: (klf) A Bible of Dreams webpage Date: 10 Jul 1998 21:57:40 +0000 well I've just published another webpage, about Bill'n'Zed's A Bible of Dreams. It gathers together everything that is known about the book, from the 3 press interviews and the promo leaflet they sent out. http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/klf/bible.htm I scanned in the reproductions of the colour plates that were published in Vox, and these are on the page. Note that Vox printed some of them on top of bits of others so that some corners of the images are missing. If anyone wants copies of the original high quality large jpgs I can send them to you or put them online for you to download. They are all around 2-300 Kb. Stuey .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ now completely updated with portfolio of my websites etc. .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 15:45:40 -0700 For those of you who don't plan on getting an mp3 archive, and don't care = about such things, throw this out. > >wasnt he asking like $70 US for the 3cd set? Too expensive, in my > >opinion. You figure the 3 cds cost him $0-$6 and sure, he had to buy a > >burner and all, but i wouldnt pay any more than $30 FIRM. I visited th= at > >website and when i saw the price I said "Forget it!" > Sure, I agree. It's expensive. I wouldn't be offended if he lowered the > prices to =A325. BTW, the price in US$ is roughly $15-20 higher than the= UK=A3 > prices. :) Actually, the exchange is roughly double from pounds to US dollars. So tho= se prices sound about right to me. Exchange wise I mean, otherwise, I would t= end to agree, they are a bit pricey. My collection would be a bit cheaper. I'm= not sure exactly how much though, since I haven't reach that stage yet. But that brings me to my next point. For those that don't know, some time = ago, I announced the mp3 archive project (before Lars). I was perhaps a bit too= ambitious with what I wanted to do, and too slow, so Lars beat me to it. A= t this point I'm feeling like I wasted my time, and I might as well not bother continuing. However, I will if there is still enough interests. So, althou= gh I didn't want to do it this way, I'm taking advance orders. You don't have to send money yet. Just email me and tell me you want one, and I'll put your name = on the list. If I get enough, I'll finish the dang thing. For those that don't know about my MP3 Archive, here's a quick brake down = of what it has: -Optional html based browser, with interactive graphics and sound. (Using MacroMedia Flash.) This way, hopefully, it will be usable by multiple platforms. But the whole thing can be ignored if you just want to have the mp3s playing in the background -Professionally made silver data cd., with color booklet. -A special surprise remix (unavailable elsewhere). -And, of course, a huge tracklist, but for the sake of space I won't list = all the tracks here (I'll have a site up soon with a complete list). But the list = is almost the same as Lars' anyway (except for that Kalavela album. Lars must be a t= ime- traveller ;) At any rate, as you can see, I've put quite a bit of work into this projec= t, which is why I'd like to finish it, but there isn't much point if no one wants i= t. So please let me know. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: (klf) Dutton, what the heck is he up to? Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:35:38 -0700 Let me quote a couple things here. > I called Mike Dutton today, and he said he sent the stuff for everyone a > couple of days ago or so:) So, smile:) By the way, Marshall's TWROST > hasn't been shipeed yet, right? > > Aiight Chill, Bizzzare This was posted on june 3rd. Did you ever get anything Bizzzare? Then on June 6th this was posted: > I've just listened to TOWR that I got from Mike Dutton. > > I've heard all the album apart from "Born Free" before as I first bought > it on tape 7 years ago. I have to say it don't half remind me of tracks on > a William Shatner (Captn.Kirk) album!!! Good old "lucy in the sky with > diamonds"!?!?!? > > Just thought I'd throw my two-penneth in. > > The extra tracks are really good as well. > > 'laters > Graham So that leads to the question, What the fuck is going on? I know a lot of people haven't gotten anything from Mike yet (myself included), but has anyone gotten anything besides Graham? And is there any point in calling Mike? Someone said he (and his wife) aren't answering any more. When was the last time someone on the list spoke to him? Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Menasian Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 17:36:11 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Whiggy wrote: > > >wasnt he asking like $70 US for the 3cd set? Too expensive, in my > > >opinion. You figure the 3 cds cost him $0-$6 and sure, he had to buy = a > > >burner and all, but i wouldnt pay any more than $30 FIRM. I visited t= hat > > >website and when i saw the price I said "Forget it!" > > Sure, I agree. It's expensive. I wouldn't be offended if he lowered the > > prices to =A325. BTW, the price in US$ is roughly $15-20 higher than th= e UK=A3 > > prices. :) >=20 > Actually, the exchange is roughly double from pounds to US dollars. So th= ose > prices sound about right to me. Exchange wise I mean, otherwise, I would = tend > to agree, they are a bit pricey. Actually, the exchange rate is only $1.64 per UKP right now... Lars's prices are absurd, which is why I've never ordered anything from him. =20 Some simple CD-R burning cost calculations: CD-R media are under $1 each, and air mail postage to send a CD to Europe was about $1.50 last time I mailed one, and it's cheaper to send several at once...=20 CD burners cost under $270, and they last for at least 50,000 hours and burn at double speed, which means that they can make at least 90,000 CDs, so the equipment wear cost to burn a CD is a MAXIMUM of 0.3 cents! Let's just say that the equipment wear cost is insignificant... Duplicating a CD-R takes about ten seconds worth of work: Open the burner's tray or caddy, put a CD in, close it, click the "go" button, and go do something else until it's done burning. If your time is worth $60 an hour for having the amazing ability to perform the task listed above, that's still only 10 cents per CD... $15 including shipping would be a fair price for the set of 3 CDs, which is still about a 100% mark up! Paying more than $10 including air mail shipping for a CD-R is insane! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xav Subject: TR: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 11 Jul 1998 03:00:29 +0200 -----Message d'origine----- De: Xav [SMTP:vega@club-internet.fr] =C0: 'Gregor Menasian' Objet: RE: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... In defense of Lars, allright, $70 sounds expensive for a set of 3 CDRs. But have u guys thought of the work involved in finding, gathering, = mp3ing all this stuff ???? I mean that MUST have taken a lot of work, = and i think 'that' on its own justifies the price. Anyway, thats my 3c. GO LARS !!!! :) And look at it this way. U get for half the price what you would get = from Mike Dutton in terms of CDRs. But u get the whole KLF discog (well = practically all), AND ure actually still alive when the package arrives = through the post. I say its a good deal. Id like to tear Mike Dutton apart, so if anyone sees him, kick him in = the balls for me.....(yep, im pissed off at the guy...can u blame me ?) Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 18:49:38 -0700 > Actually, the exchange rate is only $1.64 per UKP right now... Good point, I was thinking in Canadian dollars again (force of habit when you live in Canada :) > Some simple CD-R burning cost calculations: > > CD-R media are under $1 each, and air mail postage to send a CD to Europe > was about $1.50 last time I mailed one, and it's cheaper to send several > at once... True. > CD burners cost under $270, and they last for at least 50,000 hours and > burn at double speed, which means that they can make at least 90,000 CDs, > so the equipment wear cost to burn a CD is a MAXIMUM of 0.3 cents! Let's > just say that the equipment wear cost is insignificant... I paid $440 Canadian for a Sony 926s. And that was the cheapest one I could find. I'm becoming increasingly ticked off that it can't write in Disk at Once mode too. If anyone knows how to remove the 2 second gap in audio cds in Track at Once mode I'd *really* like to know. > Duplicating a CD-R takes about ten seconds worth of work: > Open the burner's tray or caddy, put a CD in, close it, click the "go" > button, and go do something else until it's done burning. If your time is > worth $60 an hour for having the amazing ability to perform the task > listed above, that's still only 10 cents per CD... Yes true that's all it takes to *copy* a cd, but as Xav said you still have to make the originals, and beleive me, it takes alot of time to encode and coalate all those tracks. > $15 including shipping would be a fair price for the set of 3 CDs, > which is still about a 100% mark up! > > Paying more than $10 including air mail shipping for a CD-R is insane! Well the man is owed a little something for the time and effort it took to *make* the CDs. You have to admit that. But I do agree 70$ is a bit much. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: TR: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 10 Jul 1998 22:02:27 EDT While I agree that $70 is a bit steep for a three cd set (a more commercially realistic $45 would be nicer...) I have to admit that the concept of Instant KLF Record Collection (just add wter, makes it's own sauce) is appealing. It frightens me to think how much I paid for my stuff. For the newbie trying to track down this stuff $70 is a steal. And if you already have a CDR... it's a bargin... > But have u guys thought of the work involved in finding, gathering, mp3ing > all this stuff ???? I mean that MUST have taken a lot of work, and i think ' > that' on its own justifies the price. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) mp3 -> wav? Date: 11 Jul 1998 13:02:06 +0200 >>At 08:48 1998-07-10 -0600, protobleeb wrote: >>>i think the klf-mp3-collection is quite cool, but am i >>>able to convert the mp3-files to .wav or .aiff, etc.? >For decent quality though, be prepared to be looking at 10Mb per minute of >audio, i.e. 50Mb for a 5 min song - have you got enough memory to do >anything with it when it's converted?..... I really hope protobleeb is planning on burning them on audio-cd, otherwise I don't see the point in decoding mp3s. :) Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) History of the Jams Date: 11 Jul 1998 13:15:16 +0200 At 16:42 1998-07-10 -0400, you wrote: >> Oh, BTW. Do any of you guys have a more recent and up-to-date >> discography >> than Lazlo Nibble's from '93? Would appreciate it :) >As listed in the footer of every message: ># KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf Dopey me! :D Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Fr=F6ssman?=" Subject: SV: (klf) That c**t Dutton Date: 12 Jul 1998 03:15:19 +0200 >There is now no answer at all on Dutton's phone, not even an >answerphone. It doesn't matter that apparently "he's not normally this >bad"; maybe this is his one last big scam and he and the missus have >left the country on the proceeds...=20 Or maybe he is taken by the police (isn't he doing all this illegaly??) As of what i have heard some big pirates has been captured in GB quite = recently. I'm don't live in GB and I do not know what more Mikey D. sells exactly, = It's just a thought. //Thomas Fr=F6ssman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Sampled Date: 12 Jul 1998 18:50:23 +0300 Hi all, I wonder if anyone knows anything about this, i'm talking about two songs that i know that have some KLF samples in them and they are not in the discography. Both songs are on a different compilation albums that made in Israel, however this songs didn't done in Israel IMO.. Assyria - Eternal 4:32 (M. Gurrieri, L. Rosi.) 1994? Fairy' Noise Group [Samples Maxine Harvey voice singing "It's 3 am eternal" etc.. It's seems like a cover version maybe? The song is in house style btw.] Fix Six - 65 So So (Extended version) 5:49 1992? No more details available... [Samples the beat of "Make It Rain" in some parts of the song. The song is in techno style btw.] I'll upload this songs to a certain mp3 site soon! ;-) Btw: The X$X site is empty beside of the same background... Regards, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il http://members.forfree.at/~boredman/index.html 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-Terje Vellene Subject: Re: (klf) Them there MP3-collections.. Date: 12 Jul 1998 17:08:42 +0200 I agree that it may sound like a stiff price when he gets most of this practically for free... On the other hand there is quite a bit of work behind this project (I'm burning siome cds myself with this kind of things and the ground work is extensive). I have been searching for klf mp3s on the net for some time and have found some, but I think it would take me some years to scrounge up everything that's on those 3 cds. the price is roughly the same as for 3 fullprice cds in norway, and well, there's no way of getting this material anywhere else. Plus we're talking of 28 hours of music and film !! If Lars was selling normal stuff taht I could get in the shops at this price, I wouldn't dig it, but the way I see it, my 35 UKp was well spent on the collection. The quality of the mp3s are great, I get all the stuff that I never thought I'd get, plus I got to see the White Room movie. So, if you don't feel like that is worth the money, then you probably don't want all the stuff that KLF has had their hands into :) to me, Lars don't seem like a guy ripping off anyone. Jan-Terje > Mattias Frid wrote: > > > At 17:37 1998-07-09 -1000, you wrote: > > >wasnt he asking like $70 US for the 3cd set? Too expensive, in my > > >opinion. You figure the 3 cds cost him $0-$6 and sure, he had to buy a > > >burner and all, but i wouldnt pay any more than $30 FIRM. I visited that > > >website and when i saw the price I said "Forget it!" > > Sure, I agree. It's expensive. I wouldn't be offended if he lowered the > > prices to =A325. BTW, the price in US$ is roughly $15-20 higher than the > > UK=A3 prices. :) > > > > Anyway, I'd still like to know if anyone out there have these cds and > > what you think of them. Or if you have any better ideas of obtaining > > KLF-mp3s... (I've leeched the Mancentral dry) > > > > Cheers! > > //FRiD -- oO=A8Oo. 'o 'o OO'. OO O oOOOo. .oo. .oo. OOOo OOo .oOO=A4o .o. OOO.O=A4' Oo.O=A4' Oo OO oOOOo .OO=A4o.o=A4' oOOOoooO''=A4o O''=A4o O'oOo OO 'o 'O=A4. =A4=A4=A4=A4' '=A4OO' '=A4OO' 'Oo.'o' 'Oo.'=A4oOO=A4'' Soothe: http://home.sol.no/~jantv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niko Tzoukmanis Subject: (klf) wtil@loveparade / sampled Date: 13 Jul 1998 10:44:47 +0200 > Assyria - Eternal 4:32 > (M. Gurrieri, L. Rosi.) > 1994? Fairy' Noise Group > [Samples Maxine Harvey voice singing "It's 3 am eternal" etc.. > It's seems like a cover version maybe? The song is in house style btw.] > > Fix Six - 65 So So (Extended version) 5:49 > 1992? No more details available... > [Samples the beat of "Make It Rain" in some parts of the song. > The song is in techno style btw.] > good subject ! wasn't there a track called 'take me to the church' (total trance) too ? what does it sound like ? has anyone been at the love parade ? i saw it on t.v., guess what dr. motte played at about 11 pm ? yeah, 'what time is love' (pure trance original). and a million people could hear it at the same time... -- Niko Tzoukmanis URL: http://wwwhoppe.math.uni-augsburg.de/~tzoukman "Life's too short for boring music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) wtil@loveparade / sampled Date: 13 Jul 1998 02:15:25 PDT >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:44:47 +0200 >From: Niko Tzoukmanis >To: klf@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (klf) wtil@loveparade / sampled > > >wasn't there a track called 'take me to the church' (total trance) too ? >what does it sound like ? > It's KILLER PLASTICO with 'take me to the church' which samples 'church of the KLF'. It sound like a dance-trance song (It's instrumental except the sample but it's not really trancy...) Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: (klf) chris brook Date: 13 Jul 1998 10:36:23 +0100 (BST) not shure who he is, was it him that did the burning book? only i went to the guildford green ambient picnic yesterday, and some bloke came round shouting "not in the caberet tent, chris brook from the klf" which confused me. who he? thouht i. he came on stage with a ftm tee and played a theremin, and talked crap, only interesting crap. i trid to phone m/a/d and gimpo to find out who he was, but both their phones were off/dodgy. any help? -- Kyle Thompson Professional Placement Officer Union House. University of Surrey, Guildford. GU2 5XH. su-placement@surrey.ac.uk +44 (0) 410 78-88-55 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ewen Roberts" Subject: RE: (klf) Them there MP3-collections... Date: 13 Jul 1998 09:38:25 -0700 > I paid $440 Canadian for a Sony 926s. And that was the cheapest > one I could > find. I'm becoming increasingly ticked off that it can't write in > Disk at Once > mode too. If anyone knows how to remove the 2 second gap in audio cds in > Track at Once mode I'd *really* like to know. Can't answer that one, but it should also be remembered that Lars doesn't live in America, so quoting the American price for CD-Rs and recorders gives the wrong impression. Computer equipment is generally more expensive in Europe - the Sony 928E is 199 pounds in the UK which is about 326 US dollars, then you usually have to add sales tax etc. On the rare occasions I get sent to the US I normally stock up on blank CDs and stuff 'cos they're cheaper. > Well the man is owed a little something for the time and effort > it took to *make* > the CDs. You have to admit that. But I do agree 70$ is a bit much. Any comments Lars? UN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) Them MP3 collections, a reply! Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:37:25 -0000 Since people are discussing the prices of my collections, I'll like to make a comment myself :-) 1: The Price is 70$ or 35 UKP - the exchange rate may have slipped, but you have a choice, and I guess that even Americans can go to a bank and exchange to pound Sterling -so why are you so angry. If the Pound price is more fair - use Pound ! I occasionally travel to the UK, were I can use the pound, US Dollars have to be changed back. 2: It's true that a CDR can be copied for 2$ in material costs, and people often claim that it's a rip off, and that they can do it a lot cheaper. But consider this: The 3 compilations have 30 Hours of sound and 45 min of movie, I had to buy or trade me to all that stuff, and if anyone should go out and buy the originals, it'll run up to more than 1000$ if you can find it at all. To sample, clean and encode 30 hours of music takes around 250 hours, not a very easy task. Of course you don't have to watch the computer all the time. The copying of one disc takes around 50 min, then a cover have to printed, an envelope have to be bought, stamps - going to the post-office. all these little things takes time - so I figured out, that to make it worthwhile for me, I charged 70$/35£ for the set. If you find it too much - that's OK with me - this is not what I do for a living :-) Mike Dutton charged 25pound for 60 min of sound, and didn't deliver. Marshall charges 25$ for 60 min of sound, and delivers in 6 months, I charge 70$ for 30 Hours, and delivers in around 14 days - think about that. And it's not financing my CD-Burner, it's over a year old. Thanks for reading Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan White Subject: (klf) Question Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:38:12 +0000 (GMT) Am I the only person from Ireland on the list? Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) 2-min gap (off -topic) Date: 13 Jul 1998 19:03:16 -0000 > mode too. If anyone knows how to remove the 2 second gap in audio cds in > Track at Once mode I'd *really* like to know. I use a program called wavelab 1.6 - it's a lousy wave-editor, but it's a very nice CDR burning software - you can easy get rid of the 2 min gap, or make it long/short you want. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Klauninger Subject: (klf) 1987 LP Date: 13 Jul 1998 19:48:42 +0200 (METDST) Hello! I am planning to buy the original 1987 album. So I just wanted to ask what price I'll have to expect to pay for it. Any ideas? Bert K ****************************************************** * Bert Klauninger - Student of Computer Science at * * the Technical University of Vienna * ****************************************************** * Mail: e9425541@stud1.tuwien.ac.at * * HP: http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9425541/ace.html * ****************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kristian Bengtsson" Subject: (klf) Who was on Arvika Festivalen? Date: 13 Jul 1998 20:35:49 +0200 hi.... Was anyone from the list on Arvika Festivalen? (The Arvika Festival in Arvika, Sweden. ) I saw three persons , two of them with KLF written on theirs back with Insulating tape (?) and one with MUMU. I just stared.. Then they were gone..... and i never saw them again ... .. . :] /k # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: re:(klf) chris Brook Date: 13 Jul 1998 21:30:25 +0100 (BST) So, just who is Chris Brook Well, he did his rant about the Theremin as the support act during the Bad Wisdom Book reading tour in '96, and introduced the WTKFBMQ film performance tour in '95. Some sources claim he was a shadowy figure seen lurking at the back of the stage when the Mike Flowers Pops played at Manchester university in march '96. From what I remember he was a chum of Bill Drummond and some kind of PR chap. Oh, I dunno Rgds CHris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: (klf) re: (KLF) 1987 LP Date: 13 Jul 1998 21:33:15 +0100 (BST) You're buying the original 1987? Well, congratulations on actually finding a copy. The KLF advertised it for 1000UKP a few years back but most modern record collecting list things claim you can buy it for around 80UKP, or at least that is how much it is worth in record collecting circles. rgds CHris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon masciana Subject: Re: (klf) 1987 LP Date: 13 Jul 1998 19:19:20 -0700 >I am planning to buy the original 1987 album. So I just wanted to ask what >price I'll have to expect to pay for it. Any ideas? Well, it is a hard item to find, I know that Esprit (UK Mail Order service) sold one for about $120 recently, but I don't know if that's the current market rate. It depends on how desperate a collector is, I guess... Good luck! Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Jimmi Cauty vs Funtopia 12" Date: 14 Jul 1998 10:32:48 GMT morning all. i picked up a 12" for someone on this list a couple of months ago, but he's gone quiet on me. if anyone wants it, let me know. details: Funtopia featuring Jimi Polo 'In A Summer Place' (Don't Hold Back The Feeling) includes the CAUTY MIX by you know who.... cost = 6 UKP postage and packing is extra. it would be 1.5 UKP within the UK, 2 UKP within Europe, and 4 UKP outside. first come, first served. email to me please (klf@cracl.demon.co.uk), and not the list. cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 15 Jul 1998 00:47:51 PDT >I am planning to buy the original 1987 album. So I just wanted to >ask what price I'll have to expect to pay for it. Any ideas? >Bert K It's not only a question about 1987, but about all KLF items! Maybe the list must make a price list about each of them. It will be easier to trade these... What do the list think? Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xavier Ehret Subject: (klf) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:38:53 +0200 Date: 15 Jul 1998 09:30:22 -0600 Hey everyone, well for all the people that asked me about the Original White Room dubs from my tape, im sorry to report that i can only do copies in the French format called Secam. So either you have a multi format machine and its ok i can make you a second generation copy. Or, you send me two PAL or NTSC VCRs so i can make Dubs (yeah right :)) Until i get two Multi standard VCRs, im afraid im out of options. Sorry to everyone whos mailed me :( Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 15 Jul 1998 17:31:52 +0200 >It's not only a question about 1987, but about all KLF items! Maybe the >list must make a price list about each of them. It will be easier to >trade these... Yeah, I second that! Since I'm a newbie concerning the trade part, I don't have the slightest clue what prices are reasonable. I realise a definite price list is impossible to produce, but it would be great having a list of aproximate prices. Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:41:16 +0100 Mattias Frid wrote: > price list is impossible to produce, but it would be great having a > list of aproximate prices. probably the best way to do this without descending into horrible argments about what constitutes a 'reasonable' price is for someone to compile prices we have seen items for sale at or have actually sold items for ourselves. Now all we need is a volunteer to compile the info & put it on a web page... - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) KLF t-shirts (Sweden) Date: 15 Jul 1998 17:51:34 +0200 Sorry all you non-swedes out there, that won't understand a shit of the following. This is a mail to check out how many swedes that's on the list. Ok, h=E4r kommer v=E4sentligheterna: Jag och Kristian Bengtsson grubblade lite p=E5 om det var fler som kunde var= a intresserade av nytryckta t-shirts med KLF-motiv. Saken =E4r (som alla vet) att det =E4r billigare om man =E4r n=E5gra som g=E5r ihop =3D) Alternativen= =E4r att g=F6ra jackor eller rockar, men kom g=E4rna med egna id=E9er. =46=F6rmodligen =E4r det inte bara jag och Kristian som har sett personer p= =E5 festivaler etc. med KLF-kl=E4der och b=F6rjat grubbla p=E5 var de f=E5tt tag= i dem. Allts=E5: Varf=F6r jaga land och rike (och i vissa fall mer =E4n s=E5) runt= f=F6r att hitta KLF-kl=E4derm n=E4r man kan g=F6ra dem sj=E4lv till en l=E4gre kostnad= och antagligen mycket fr=E4schare eftersom de inte svettats ned p=E5 n=E5gon fes= tival (s=E5vida det inte =E4r n=E5gon av er som absolut vill ha en begagnad, sm=E5= svettig tr=F6ja, vilket antagligen g=E5r att ordna, men till en liten extrakostnad= =3D) ). Vad =E4r det jag =E4r ute efter? Jo, h=F6r av er med synpunkter och f=F6rsla= g. =C4r et n=E5gon som egentligen =E4r intresserad. L=E5t mig veta. Jag k=E4nner att= det =E4r dags att vi tar tag i det h=E4r nu. Det vore =E4ven trevligt att f=E5 reda p=E5 hur m=E5nga svenskar som =E4r= med p=E5 listan. Mvh Johan Hedberg AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: Johan.Hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: 018 - 10 97 83 UNT Fredag Tel: 018 - 17 03 46 Box 36 Mobil: 070 - 473 15 75 751 03 Uppsala =09 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) Compiling of a pricelist. Date: 15 Jul 1998 18:00:56 +0200 Look, theres been some talking 'bout this pricelist, and all I can say is: Great idea! Any volunteers? Hm... thought so... =) I'll do it, if it's OK with you all out there. One way to do this is you send me info 'bout all the stuff you sold, all you bought (to reasonable prices) and all other you know and I'll create the list and send it here once everytime it's updated. This way, we won't wake up one morning, understanding that the LP just being bought for $100 ain't worth more than the stuff you're eating for breakfast (and hell, I'm not eating oysters every morning...) =) Send me your thoughts on this, will you... /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: (klf) the price list saga Date: 15 Jul 1998 23:52:12 +0100 (BST) I'm against the idea of a price list. Several reasons 1. There are far too many records to list and the pricesz they can be found at vary far too much, for example a copy of waiting for the rites... may be 10UKP in ECHO records in Glasgow, or 20UKP in Tower records in London. 2. The cost of sending records abroard or to elsewhere in the same country could seriously altere the price, for example sending a CD in the post to somewheere else in the UK costs around 0.5UKP without soft packaging, or up to 2UKP recorded delivery in a jiffy envelope. Sending it abroard would cost far more. 3. This may come as a shock but some list members are making a fortune out of charging people in alternative countries extortionate rates for certain CDs, a price list would damage their income. 4. It will all lead to arguements and people pissed off. So instead of refering to a mailing list pricelist, refer to commercail record collecting books, or haggle over the price. It would be a lot easier. Rgds CHr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 15 Jul 1998 19:28:51 EDT > I'm against the idea of a price list. Several reasons > 1. There are far too many records to list and the pricesz they can be found > at vary far too much, Not really. I find 12"s generally are the same price. Bootlegs as well. All taht really needs to be done is find a price for the lps, which is where variance comes in. Over on the Pet Shop Boys group someone was commenting that he paid $100US for a bootleg which could easily be found for $25US. Those without experience would benefit from something like this. They need to realize however that these are not SET prices. Just becasue we might say $50 is a good price for K Cera Cera doesn't mean they should think it's a rip off if someone is selling it for $75. . > 2. The cost of sending records abroard or to elsewhere in the same country > could seriously altere the price This should have nothing to do with the cost of the item itself. Shipping is entirely different and should be assumed to be an added cost. > 3. This may come as a shock but some list members are making a fortune > out of charging people in alternative countries extortionate rates for > certain CDs, a price list would damage their income. Most people who collect records are aware of their value. Even though I want to get a copy of the 1987lp someday I'm not stupid enough to pay $200 for it. as far as exchange rates, it's up to the buyer to know how much 75UKP is in his home currency. > 4. It will all lead to arguements and people pissed off. No arguement there. :) But so does anything that's debateable. And Now: Paul's Guide to KLF buying. Here's my general pricing guide. In US dollars Singles -- standard commercial issue $25 Promo singles -- prices really vary but if the promo has exclusive tracks it really depends on how many are pressed. $25 (same tracks as commercial); $35+ depending on rarity. Consult the Discog. Bootleg cds $25-$35 for single discs (but $35 is pushing it). I'm not getting into CDrs 1987 I'd pay $100 Who Killed the Jams I've no idea, I rarely see this for sale. I paid $5 for mine but that was at a used record store... $50 Chill Out $50 What Time is Love Story $50 Note: Things can be cheaper or more expensive. If I find an old 12" for $15 I consider myself lucky. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 16 Jul 1998 02:35:53 +0200 !!!Rant-Warning!!! :) >I'm against the idea of a price list. Several reasons >1. There are far too many records to list and the pricesz they can be found Well, the point isn't to do a _definite_ list. (At least I hope it isn't :) Granted there are a lot of records out there and, yeah the prices do vary. _But_ the plan (oooh, I love plans!) is to have an approx list, including the 'bigger' items and generalize the different pressings/versions/covers/labels etc We already have a guy volunteering to do the job of correlating all the data given to him (Johan Hedberg, thanks!) and all the rest of us have to do is to supply him with info on how much we payed for our stuff. And the records aren't too many to list. There's already a very nice discography, right? :) >2. The cost of sending records abroard or to elsewhere in the same country Well, this isn't relevant really, since shipping and stuff IMHO isn't a part of the price of an item it self. >3. This may come as a shock but some list members are making a fortune Um. So? :) Is it really very ethical to rip people off? No, I don't think so... I'm aware of how capitalism works, and I support that very economic system but people should always be aware of how much they're supposed to charge/pay. If the list says 100ukp for the original 1987 and I find it for 200ukp I'd probably consider buying it anyway, since I know I'm not likely to find another ex for sale in the near future. This argument works the other way as well, but I feel like I'm ranting enough already :) Anyway, I don't view the creation of a price list as a way of busting peoples income. I'd rather see it as a way to help people who might get ripped off or don't know how much to charge people, to keep a sensible price level. If someone still want to sell cds at extortionate rates it's their problem if they don't sell any. >4. It will all lead to arguements and people pissed off. Nah... Why would anyone get pissed off over this? That'd only be a sign of what a fucked up world we live in if anyone got pissed off over a price list. Anyway, what it all boils down to is this. It'd just be a list of approximate prices some guys published to make things easier. It wouldn't be the definite holy word or law on how much you should sell your cds for. I see no harm in making a list of this kind. And if there already are price lists in commercial books why not copy them and post them on the web? ("Copyright"? SO?!? ;) Well, that's my 2 cents, pennies, pfennig or whatever... Cheers! //FRiD BTW, go visit www.afrosquad.com. Pipms galore! :) Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xavier Ehret Subject: RE: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 16 Jul 1998 10:49:59 +0200 As far as prices are concerned, the only thing i would advocate is asking the list each time you want to buy a KLF item, and get the best advice available. Making a price list is not realistic : they change, and some people are sometimes attached to special items, selling them at a high price, which some people are prepared to pay. Their is no REAL value for a KLF item, just the price sometime is ready to pay. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) Different Project Date: 16 Jul 1998 12:54:45 +0200 Hey guys! What/who is 'Different Project'? I know they made a version of 'Fuck the millennium' and a song called 'London by night' but who are these people, really? Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "You can't scare me! I'm a Framtidsv. 4:313 coward, I'm always scared!" S-35252 Vaxjo - Arnold J. Rimmer/Red Dwarf SWEDEN mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan White Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 16 Jul 1998 10:57:41 +0000 (GMT) Christopher Gilmour Wrote: > I'm against the idea of a price list. Several reasons > 1. There are far too many records to list and the pricesz they can be fo= und > at vary far too much, for example a copy of waiting for the rites... may= > be 10UKP in ECHO records in Glasgow, or 20UKP in Tower records in London= . You mean theres still copies for sale new in the shops? But if new prices do seem to vary then thats fine, the recommended price would be the price range =A310 - =A320 > 2. The cost of sending records abroard or to elsewhere in the same count= ry > could seriously altere the price, for example sending a CD in the post t= o > somewheere else in the UK costs around 0.5UKP without soft packaging, or= > up to 2UKP recorded delivery in a jiffy envelope. Sending it abroard > would cost far more. And I think the stamps/franking mark on the envelope are evidence enough of postal cost separate to the cost of a record. > 3. This may come as a shock but some list members are making a fortune > out of charging people in alternative countries extortionate rates for > certain CDs, a price list would damage their income. Maybe yours perhaps? > 4. It will all lead to arguements and people pissed off. > What? It would be a useful addition of info for anyone who wants KLF stuff on the list/internet that reads the discography and realises that there's shit loads of old KLF stuff that they don't have. > So instead of refering to a mailing list pricelist, refer to commercial > record collecting books, or haggle over the price. It would be a lot eas= ier. Unless you haven't a clue what's the worht of what your haggling over. Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 16 Jul 1998 17:09:56 +0300 *********** REPLY PARTITION *********** On 16/7/1998, at 3:37 =F0=EC, Mattias Frid wrote: >>I'm against the idea of a price list. Several reasons I think it's a pretty good idea. Helps people not get ripped offf, don't= you think? >>2. The cost of sending records abroard or to elsewhere in the same= country Nah, that's just an added cost. Not very significant either usually. >>3. This may come as a shock but some list members are making a fortune Yeah, unfortunately i've noticed that. It's time to stop some of them! >>4. It will all lead to arguements and people pissed off. What????? welcome Mattias! Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) dutton Date: 16 Jul 1998 17:15:36 +0300 Hi all, there was a question about wehter i have received any of the stuff from= Dutton. Silly question:) Of course NOT! Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies... Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', and his 'Fleria'. He has won... Obsessions : The KLF, Hip-hop, Cinema, 'Fleria', Comics Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregor Menasian Subject: Price List - was RE: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 16 Jul 1998 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Xavier Ehret wrote: > As far as prices are concerned, the only thing i would advocate is > asking the list each time you want to buy a KLF item, and get the best > advice available. Asking on the list every time one of us buys something would waste a lot of bandwidth and get out of hand... A price guide is basicly a kind of FAQ. > Making a price list is not realistic : they change, and some people are > sometimes attached to special items, selling them at a high price, which > some people are prepared to pay. Prices do change, but certain items are always going to be worth more than others... I suggest that instead of a straight price guide, we make a rarity list with print run sizes and approximate value ranges listed for each item. Rarities include: IP - in print, with MSRP C - common, out of print, but easy to find U - uncommon, if you hunt you should be able to find it R - rare, hard to find, consider yourself lucky! VR - very rare, they're out there, but not a lot of them - what a find! ER - extremely rare, any promo-only stuff with a tiny print run. > Their is no REAL value for a KLF item, just the price sometime is ready > to pay. The first time you see an item, you may think that will be your last - salespeople often try to convince you of this to get you to pay an unreasonable price for something. A price/rarity list would be a great service to anyone who doesn't know much about collecting... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) the price list saga Date: 16 Jul 1998 18:23:30 +0200 I think that Christopher.D.Gilmour has a point. A small one... On the other hand I think the idea of creating a list is great. Let's not bother 'bout shipping, fortune-seeking people on the list and other irrelevant stuff. All we want is a list that show us the prices we could expect when we're buying the records we love so much. That's all. We're not talking 'bout the Holy Bible of KLF Prices here. So come and send me the prices you know and I'll take care of the list-making. We need this. All prices in $, GBP or DEM so it's easy for me to convert them. Well, if there is some in YEN I'll handle that to... =) One other thing: Let's not copy the pricelists from commercial books. 1. Copyright. 2. They often don't know the real prices. I mean, 1987 might be worth $X but the price that people should expect is $Y. What of the above is the most useful to know? Thought so... =) /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: Re: Price List - was RE: (klf) Re: 1987 LP Date: 16 Jul 1998 18:33:40 +0200 >I suggest that instead of a straight price guide, we make a rarity list >with print run sizes and approximate value ranges listed for each item. >Rarities include: >IP - in print, with MSRP >C - common, out of print, but easy to find >U - uncommon, if you hunt you should be able to find it >R - rare, hard to find, consider yourself lucky! >VR - very rare, they're out there, but not a lot of them - what a find! >ER - extremely rare, any promo-only stuff with a tiny print run. > >> Their is no REAL value for a KLF item, just the price sometime is ready >> to pay. > >The first time you see an item, you may think that will be your last - >salespeople often try to convince you of this to get you to pay an >unreasonable price for something. > >A price/rarity list would be a great service to anyone who doesn't know >much about collecting... Splendid idea! How about not just making it a price _or_ a rarity list? Why don't we make it a both price _and_ and rarity list? I'll still do it... =) /Johan AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: johan.hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: +46 - 18 - 10 97 83 UNT Fredag Tel: +46 - 18 - 17 03 46 Box 36 Mobil: +46 - 70 - 473 15 75 S - 751 03 Uppsala Sweden _____________________________ Free Kevin Mitnick! http://www.KevinMitnick.com _____________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) Sorry... Date: 16 Jul 1998 18:37:16 +0200 It seem like one word slipped away in that last message of mine... Of course I wrote 'So come _on_ and send me the prices you know and...' and NOT 'So come and send me the prices you know and...' =) (Hate those one-liners to, but I just had to tell that...somebody might think that I meant that you should _come_ and then send me...and that would have been embarassing...) =) /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 16 Jul 1998 18:47:58 +0100 Well, as I predicted, the price list has kicked off a lot of argment before it's even started... The only way of doing this is without argument is for it to be an entirely factual list of prices we have seen in shop or actually sold items for... once we have a few prices it will be obvious what (and who) is cheap and what/who is overpriced. I'd like the list to be based on the discography (but only including items where recent prices are known), giving prices seen, or sold at, together with where & when they were seen (and by who to stop people hyping up an item they are going to sell). A good place to start would be prices from on-line resellers such as esprit - http://www.eil.co.uk/eil/klf.txt - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: Re: (klf) the price list saga Date: 17 Jul 1998 09:16:17 +0200 >Well, as I predicted, the price list has kicked off a lot of argment >before it's even started... > >The only way of doing this is without argument is for it to be an >entirely factual list of prices we have seen in shop or actually sold >items for... once we have a few prices it will be obvious what (and who) >is cheap and what/who is overpriced. > >I'd like the list to be based on the discography (but only including >items where recent prices are known), giving prices seen, or sold at, >together with where & when they were seen (and by who to stop people >hyping up an item they are going to sell). > >A good place to start would be prices from on-line resellers such as >esprit - http://www.eil.co.uk/eil/klf.txt > >- andy R. Well, that's not a bad idea at all. =) We'll do it that way. /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott McCoskery" Subject: (klf) Chill Out / Space Date: 17 Jul 1998 12:18:37 -0700 Hello everyone, Chill out is one of my all-time favorite albums, which has me trying to find all interesting related recordings. Does anyone have the KLF/Orb "Chill Out Megamix" that's listed in the Orb discography. If so, how is it? There are several other remixes listed in the KLF discog., but the only one that sounds real interesting to me is "Lotus Chill Out Volume 1" Does anyone have an opinion on this? If anyone has either of these (or Space, too) I would love to do some trading. Thanks, Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Elfving Subject: (klf) for sale or trade Date: 17 Jul 1998 18:42:10 +0200 Hi everyone, I have the following stuff for sale or trade: WTIL 7" KLF004 UK 1990 release, black sleeve w blue letters WTIL 7" COMA7011 Scandinavian 90 release, pink sleeve, incl 89 Primal mix WTIL 12" COMA127011 4 mixes (incl techno gate + original pure trance mix) 3am 7" KLF005 UK LTTT 7" KLF008 UK woc IGUN 7" JAMS028 UK J&A 7" KLF99 UK J&A 7" COMA7023 Scandinavian release + "Win A Week In London" competition J&A CD5 US release incl Stand By The Jams 12" version J&A CS US release cassette single + Stadium House insert KLF vs ENT - 3am Eternal bootleg 7" in stickered sleeve, 3AM1 1987 What The Fuck's Going On, bootleg LP, red sleeve, JAMSLP1 Lori & The Chameleons - Touch 7" UK 1979 release w/ Drummond Brilliant - Somebody 12" GER 4 track Brilliant - Kiss The Lips Of Life LP BRILL 1 Brilliant - Kiss The Lips Of Life LP US cut-out but still sealed Sunsonic - Roll My Body ltd 12" incl Cauty's Gris Gris remix SFX - Lemmings 12" UK SFX - Lemmings CD5 UK 1300 Drums - Ooh Aah Cantona CD5 UK 5 mixes DYND5 various - 6 In The Mix CD incl LTTT 7"mix + Mental Cube/FSOL's "Q" etc KALA001 Draculas Daughter 7" KALA002 The Fuckers 7" KALA003 Gimpo 7" KALA004 The Daytonas 7" Non-KLF related: Orb - Perpetual Dawn 7" UK original 1991 release Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds CD UK BLRC98 cassette incl Ambient mix Art Of Noise - Art Of Love CS UK CHICS23 (Youth/Orb mix) Bananarama - Only your Love 12" UK (Youth/Thrash mix) Spectre - Covert Dub CD5 UK 6 tracks incl Orb mix Dreadzone - Captain Dread CD5 6 mixes Ultramarine - Folk CD album, original Crepuscule release, TWI894-2 Fortran 5 - Crazy Earth 7" UK promo Mute113r with unreleased radio edits Locust - The Girl With The Fairytale Dream 7" APOLLO 33X Global Communication - The Way/The Deep CD5 UK 2track release, GLOBA002CD + loads of other stuff, Orbital, Shamen, FSOL, Underworld etc, please send wants ***WANTED***: KLF8R Last Train To Trancentral - pure trance 12" KLF10R Kylie Said - 12" double pack KLF010CD Kylie Said - CD single KLF92PROMO2 January WTIL 12" JAMSLP1 1987 LP with original merchandise insert KALA005, 006, 008, 009 7"s KALA007 Bad Wisdom LP If anyone is interested in any of the items above please email: Robert.Elfving.6905@student.uu.se thanks, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) Thanks Lars! Date: 18 Jul 1998 08:30:20 EDT All this chat about the cost...just had mine, bloody good deal, which wou= ld=0Aanyone rather do, spend =A320 now and wait a year for something less= =0Asubstantial, or pay =A335 and get it in 4 days?? We are very happy Bunnies =BA=BF=BA Chris & Adrian=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) WFTROM - MAYDAY! Date: 19 Jul 1998 00:43:43 +0300 Hi, Still looking for it, anyone? Regards, David 8?) -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il http://members.forfree.at/~boredman/index.html 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) Re: Lars Stuff Date: 19 Jul 1998 06:53:04 EDT All this chat about the cost...just had mine, bloody good deal, which wou= ld=0Aanyone rather do, spend =A320 now and wait a year for something less= =0Asubstantial, or pay =A335 and get it in 4 days?? We are very happy Bunnies =BA=BF=BA Chris & Adrian=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) Lord of the rings... Date: 20 Jul 1998 20:33:58 +0200 Hi peoplez, today I was very surprised when I had a look at a merchandise-catalogue from the german mailorder company EMP... They sell the "Lord of the Rings Poster" which Jimmy painted years ago for just 11,99 DM ;-)) If you are interested mail me privately and I can give you the adress where you can order the poster.... cheers, Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: (klf) Q reviews Date: 21 Jul 1998 00:23:22 +0000 I don't think this has been mentioned before on here ... Q, the long running UK music monthly, has put their entire collection of album reviews online in a searchable database ... http://www.qonline.co.uk/_reviews/database.htm ... it says 10 years worth, but I thought Q started 85 or 86, and there are a couple of 1986 releases by our heroes below (though they could be re-releases reviewed later). Anyway whatever the start date, this is a damn fine resource and all the K-related reviews appear below. No date is given for the reviews print appearance, but it won't be too difficult to guess ... Brilliant Kiss The Lips Of Life Brilliant's founder, a man named Youth, has made good his vow to escape the scowling gloom of his last group Killing Joke. His new trio Brilliant make splashy, upbeat dance music that's light years away from all that. Trouble is, Brilliant are slaves to another rhythm: the pitiless machine-beat of the modern disco floor. If they threw in the odd funeral march it would come as light relief. Singer June Montana adds little in the way of emotional range; nor is songwriting among their more obvious assets. The best track is the least typical; a relaxed reggae skank through James Brown's singalongasexist anthem It's A Man's Man's Man's World. Q Rating: ** Reviewed By: Paul Du Noyer Bill Drummond The Man Having steered the early careers of Echo & The Bunnymen and The Teardrop Explodes, rock manager Bill Drummond has lately felt the need to make his own vinyl statement to the world. This he does via Man, a curious and hugely enjoyable set that trips from Tennessee twang to fake Scottish folk music to brash little pop tunes. Its lyrics escapsulate his bizarrely sage ruminations on life, marriage, rock'n'roll and the sundry pop stars whose destinies have entwined with his own. This record has saxophones, pedal steel guitars, a poem read out by Bill Drummond's ecclesiastical Dad (Such A Parcel Of Rogues In A Nation) and many lines as quotable as I believe in dirty gurrls! - to be recited, loudly, in an industrial-strength Galloway accent. We could stand a lot more of this sort of thing. Q Rating: **** Reviewed By: Paul Du Noyer The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu 1987 (What The Fuck's Going On?) When their single All You Need Is Love first burst upon a stagnant scene a few months back it seemed an inspired moment of pure wildness. Here were Red Clydeside beatbox rappers pointing a finger at society, putting their record together from samples pirated directly from other people's recordings, while at the same time crossing almost all contemporary music tribal boundaries by including everyone from Samantha Fox to The MC 5 among their victims. Not even the subsequent discovery that The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu (a name appropriately stolen from a bunch of time-travelling anarchists in Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminati trilogy) were merely Bill Drummond (ex Teardrop Explodes and Echo & The Bunnymen manager) and Jim from Brilliant could diminish the power of this extraordinary record. Quite an act to follow, then, and perhaps predictably this follow-up LP is a disappointment. Here there are simply too few ideas being spread too thin. This is partly because the concept of sampling seems have run away with the duo and some of the inclusions (tube train noises, football results being read) seem pointless and leave the impression of a random hotchpotch. It's also because some of their own songs are allowed to drag on for far too long, and because their rapping (while happily free of sexist bragging) still sounds too apologetically British-despite being mostly in a fearsomely broad West of Scotland accent-and lacks the necessary bravado to be entirely convincing; likewise their use of the beatbox is altogether weedy. This is not to say that the LP is a wash-out. There are some wickedly amusing ideas and moments of pure poetry in the lyrics while some of the musical juxtapositions (such as the scratched rhythm under Abba's Dancing Queen or the introductory chords of Stevie Wonder's Superstition being followed by Julie Andrews singing The Lonely Goatherd) are both killingly funny and strong enough to stand repeated listenings. In the final analysis, though, it has to be said that all the magic moments on this record (whether it's The Monkees' Last Train To Clarksville, Dave Brubeck's Take Five or Led Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love) have come from other people's work. The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu's own ideas are valid enough but to make them work properly they need to restrain their enthusiasm and weed out the weak ideas from the strong. It's one thing to shoplift but altogether another to set up in business for yourself. Q Rating: *** Reviewed By: Ian Cranna The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu Shag Times The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu are King Boy D. (Bill Drummond, doyen of the Liverpool scene that spawned the Bunnymen, Teardrop etc) and Rockman Rock (formerly of Brilliant), and Shag Times would be their greatest hits if the full force of the law hadn't already decided they probably belonged to the original artists. Indeed, the track Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) last saw action on the album 1987 (What The Fuck's Goin On?), so swiftly suppressed by the Mechanical Copyright Protection Society that rare copies now change hands at silly prices. Indeed, the queue of artists whose most memorable moments have been glued onto a beatbox backing-track stretches all the way back to the 19th century. Apart from the usual sources-AC/DC, James Brown-this album of already released numbers (plus a remix companion disc) creates some unlikely bedfellows. Wagner and Pet Clarke? Jimi Hendrix and Dave Brubeck? Whitney Houston and so on, ad absurdum. Though hardly new as a technique-Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five's Adventures On The Wheels Of Steel kicked off the '80s with a bricolage of Queen, Blondie and Chic-JAMMs' buccaneering attitude to the laws of creative ownership helped re-open the whole debate and, what often seems neglected in the furore, made a sequence of very amusing juxtapositions, of which The Timelords 'Doctorin' The Tardis (included here) is the tamest. A great party album. Q Rating: **** Reviewed By: Mat Snow The Klf The What Time Is Love Story The continuing story of Mad Bill Drummond: Part 4. Having abandoned sampling as too lawsuit-inducing and ranting in a broad Scottish accent as being of slightly too limited appeal, our hero and his faithful sidekick Jim Cauty have turned their attention to the club scene. Earlier this year they put out a whirling house stomper called What Time Is Love-not so much of a tune but a good beat and very popular in the clubs. Since then, according to the press release, said acid-influenced stomper has spawned no fewer than 18 cover versions all across Europe. (Pause for suspension of disbelief.) This LP collects the original, a live version, plus various house, Italian and Belgian-style tributes, of which one wonders why all the vocalists sound so alike (and British, even when praising Allah), and wouldn't it be a good scam if you released 18 differing versions scattered across Europe? On the other hand, seeing as the whole thing sells for under a fiver, you could just enter into the spirit of it all and just have fun with some rather good dance music. What will Mad Bill Drummond get up to next? Stay tuned ... Q Rating: *** Reviewed By: Ian Cranna The Klf Chill Out Need something to unwind to on the way home from your all night rave? Bill Drummond has just the job. In complete contrast to the pounding dance beats of What Time Is Love?, here's sampling of an entirely different kind as Chill Out brings you an impressionist soundtrack to an overnight drive through the Deep South of America. With atmospheric sound effects like chirping crickets or hooting diesel trains, the spartan but melodic electronic strains ease gently through wide open spaces, ebbing and flowing like a cross between the extended choral electronics of early OMD and the inspired visions of David Byrne in his Catherine Wheel or Bush Of Ghosts periods but minus the rhythm section. A radio intervenes periodically to introduce further local colour in the form of brief snatches of DJs, the inevitable mad evangelist and a soul brother soul brother selling the gambling delights of Atlantic City as if his life depended on it, along with the sounds of steel guitars, Elvis Presley's In The Ghetto, Fleetwood Mac's Albatross and Oh Well Part 2. Both imaginative in itself and successful in inducing a blissed out mood of peace and relaxation (at least at night), this is ambient music for city people who don't like ambient music, and it's fine. But why does it only come on crackly old vinyl? Q Rating: *** Reviewed By: Ian Cranna The Klf The White Room The KLF (alias The Timelords, The Justified Ancients Of Mu Mu and The JAMS) are a law unto themselves. Former Brilliant guitarist Jimmy Cauty and pop supremo (Teardrop, Bunnymen manager, solo artist) Bill Drummond have consistently challenged the status quo and defied categorisation over the years. Thus it comes as some surprise that by their own standards, White Room appears to be little more than a collection of remixed tracks from their recent past. Indeed, this would indicate that its release was little more than a cash-in on their new-found success (masquerading as the soundtrack to a film which is still pounds sterling1 million away from completion), were it not for the strikingly imaginative way in which the duo approached their task. From the awesome vitality of What Time Is Love and 3AM Eternal, the album goes through a seamless transition of pace to the moody guitar twang incorporated on Build A Fire, ending on the gentle ragga-tinged No More Tears. Such is its strength that there is no room for the supremely wry, flop single Kylie Said To Jason. A more subtle form of subterfuge than before, this LP will appeal to recent converts and hard core fans alike. Their time has come. Q Rating: **** Reviewed By: Iestyn George The Klf Chill Out Ahead of their time: hardly an under-used description of Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond, but, in the case of Chill Out, their hands-on 1990 foray into ambient, an unavoidably apt one. All agit-disco hardware is stowed in favour of tinkling chimes, Aboriginal chants, undulating synth and joyfully undisguised BBC-style sound effects (trains, traffic, sheep, crickets). No, they didn't invent the techniques, nor subvert them really, but the fact that Chill Out was seen largely as a urinary extraction exercise at the time when such sound-painting now shapes young careers lends poignancy to its more balmy yet knowing moments (the recurring liquidised country motif on Madrugada Eterna and Elvis On The Radio, Steel Guitar In My Soul; the cheeky lifts of Albatross and Stranger On The Shore elsewhere). Pity The KLF don't make 'em like this (or anything) any more. Q Rating: **** Reviewed By: Andrew Collins .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young will emigrate to New Zealand on September the twelth 1998 home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Paukstadt Subject: (klf) KLF in TV-Movie Date: 21 Jul 1998 13:45:48 +0200 (MEST) HY HY TV-Movie, a german paper for TV-schedule printed a top10 about things, you should know about money. On point 5 there was mentioned, that 1 million pound are buring around 63 Minutes. This was found out by Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty from KLF on 23. August 1994. This TOP10 is available online, too: http://www.tvmovie.de/aktuelles_heft/1598/10dinge/geld.html (in German) BYtE Oli +++the jungle near manaos - the amazonas full of piranhas - the birds of++ +++paradies - disapear into the green desert - for years an years we're+++ +++hungry and desperate - for the only thing worth living - the E> Subject: Re: (klf) Discography Date: 21 Jul 1998 07:28:25 PDT Hello everybody, >The discography asks: > > 7": 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 110.912) [red vinyl?] > >I answer: > > No! ;) > >-- >Torsten Pattberg Well if we`re talking about 3 a.m. , the answer should be "YES" as I`ve got the 3 a.m. red 7" from Blow up. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) Swedes only ( esp. JHedb.) Date: 21 Jul 1998 07:59:29 PDT Tja, jag har funderat ett tag på det här med tröjorna, och jag har kommit på nåt jävligt bra... Svart kortärmad skjorta Vit inringad `pyramid blaster` ( på vänstra delen av bröstet) (och nu det bästa av allt... jag ryser när jag tänker på det....) vit text: .....THEY DIDN`T ROCK......THEY RAVED.....(högt på ryggen) Nå`n på MTV sa så när han kommenterade `The rites of mu` filmen Möjligtvis med `den sönderslitna KLF communication lpn` litet på ryggen, `upp mot nacken` hållet. Är det svårt att förstå vad jag menar förklarar jag gärna, jag vill att det vi planera att tryck blir så här... vad tycks? - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Klauninger Subject: (klf) Off-topic: Record Stores in London Date: 21 Jul 1998 18:35:41 +0200 (METDST) Hi! I'm going to London on Saturday (Yippie!), and I'm looking for some record stores where you can buy rare records/klf stuff. Is there such a list on the web (cause I remember this question has occurred here a few times before)? Thanx very much, Bert K "by the way... how much ist the fish?" (Scooter) ****************************************************** * Bert Klauninger - Student of Computer Science at * * the Technical University of Vienna * ****************************************************** * Mail: e9425541@stud1.tuwien.ac.at * * HP: http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e9425541/ace.html * ****************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: (klf) The Millennium Network Date: 21 Jul 1998 10:08:00 +0100 We HAD planned to launch the Millennium Network on the 21st July, 1998. Various things have been happening in that time that are causing a delay and it is only fair if we give you and idea of when it will happen. 1) Gimpo's a dad now and getting any site material from him is, at the moment, less important than is new daughter. 2) M/A/D is moving house. Yes, that's right, I'm off to the big city of London - going back 'home'. 3) The M25 spin showing is being worked upon. 4) There is no 4. 5) We're all waiting for a blonde with big tits to tell us about her knickers. Alot of these things were unavoidable so we'll be launching the site on 10/8/98. You can be sure it will be worth the wait so make sure you all come back and see us (especially Callaghan at Appearing). See you soon, M/A/D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) The Millennium Network Date: 21 Jul 1998 11:02:52 PDT This might have been mentioned already, but the opening of www.t2k.net has been delayed by a few weeks. Gimpo's recent parentage is claimed as a factor, which is fair (although all his proposed content for the old site never turned up as far as I recall, and no such excuse was given then...probably just too busy looking for "cwack!"). Cheers, Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Q reviews Date: 21 Jul 1998 14:34:47 +0100 Thanks for the post, it was most interesting. Supposedly Microsoft Music Central features all the Q album reviews, but some of those are missing! (Still worth snapping up a copy though, now its sadly been discontinued). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: (klf) Re:Millennium Network Date: 21 Jul 1998 22:01:39 +0100 We're also VERY busy and don't want to put half a site up this time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: T.Pattberg@t-online.de (Torsten Pattberg) Subject: Re: (klf) Discography Date: 22 Jul 1998 15:14:51 +0200 David Lindgren wrote: > >The discography asks: > > > > 7": 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 110.912) [red vinyl?] > Well if we`re talking about 3 a.m. , the answer should be "YES" as I`ve > got the 3 a.m. red 7" from Blow up. > > - david So we have two different versions, because mine is black. One more question to the discography: The KLF: Stadium House (The Trilogy) [1 Jul 1991] video ep VHS: 1991 UK (Picture Music International; MVR 9900983) I have got this, but the cover contains the words "Freigegeben ohne Alterbeschränkung", it is no sticker! So do we also have a VHS: 1991 GE (Picture Music International; MVR 9900983) version or what? -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: Re: (klf) Swedes only ( esp. JHedb.) Date: 22 Jul 1998 15:52:25 +0200 Sorry all of you non-swedes. We're going to stop sending swedish mails to the list as soon as all the swedes that's interested in our proposal has answered. =46or all of you that still wants to know what the hell we're talking about: Clothes. >Tja, jag har funderat ett tag p=C2 det h=94r med tr=96jorna, >och jag har kommit p=C2 n=C2t j=94vligt bra... (Det kan v=E4l aldrig vara en svart kort=E4rmad skjorta?) =3D) >Svart kort=94rmad skjorta (Vad var det jag sa...?) >Vit inringad `pyramid blaster` ( p=C2 v=94nstra delen av br=96stet) > >(och nu det b=94sta av allt... jag ryser n=94r jag t=94nker p=C2 det....) >vit text: .....THEY DIDN`T ROCK......THEY RAVED.....(h=96gt p=C2 ryggen) =46=F6rl=E5t min uppriktighet, men jag tror inte det blir s=E5 bra. Det= luktar lite f=F6r mycket 80-tal. >N=C2`n p=C2 MTV sa s=C2 n=94r han kommenterade `The rites of mu` filmen > >M=96jligtvis med `den s=96nderslitna KLF communication lpn` litet p=C2 rygg= en, >`upp mot nacken` h=C2llet. > > > >=9Fr det sv=C2rt att f=96rst=C2 vad jag menar f=96rklarar jag g=94rna, jag= vill att >det vi planera att tryck blir s=C2 h=94r... M=E5ste s=E4ga att det =E4r sk=F6nt att n=E5gon har ett konkret f=F6rslag= och inte bara en id=E9, =E4ven om jag inte inst=E4mmer p=E5 alla s=E4tt... Kan vi f=F6rs=F6ka att skicka de h=E4r mailen utanf=F6r listan i forts=E4ttn= ingen? Jag tror att vi har f=E5tt svar fr=E5n alla som =E4r intresserade vid det h= =E4r laget (annars =E4r det bara att ni som inte sagt n=E5got =E4n skickar ett intresse-mail till mig) Mvh Johan Hedberg AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: Johan.Hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: 018 - 10 97 83 UNT Fredag Tel: 018 - 17 03 46 Box 36 Mobil: 070 - 473 15 75 751 03 Uppsala =09 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 22 Jul 1998 11:35:32 -0700 This is not a hoax. Let this be a message of hope to all of you who have given up on ever seeing your CDs (like I had until today). After almost 4 months, and $138 (Canadian), my 3 CDs are finally here, in Vancouver, and if I've gotten mine one can only hope the rest should be arriving shortly. So, now I am left looking back wondering if it was all worth it. HELL NO! I've never paid so much for CDs and had to wait so long in my life. If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't! I'm never buying anything from Mike Dutton again, and I would recommend to anyone out there who's thinking about buying something from him, DON'T! It's not worth it. There are other (better) ways to obtain these tracks. This has been a public service message. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Huck <101.68417@germanynet.de> Subject: (klf) T-shirts Date: 07 Jul 1998 13:51:05 +0200 Hi to all the people out there ! My name is Thomas and I'am new on the list. I just want to know where I can get KLF T-Shirt's in Germany. Anybody knows ? Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tim richards <100720.1557@compuserve.com> Subject: (klf) Discography Date: 22 Jul 1998 16:41:13 -0400 Message text written by Torsten Pattberg >7": 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 110.912) [red vinyl?]< released commercially on black vinyl with special limited edition run on red quite nice too : ) in the spirit of mu liberate and communicate tim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 23 Jul 1998 21:12:04 -0700 > SO when were the CDs posted? I can't read the post mark. It's too faint and it had a sticker over it, so part of it tore away. As for the CDs themselves, they're of decent quality. You can tell the WROST came from a tape. The quality isn't superb but it's certainly better then the mp3s that are available. Which reminds me, I'll update them if the proprietors of that page would like. ;) All in all, the CDs are alright, but definitely not worth the 46$ I paid. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) X$X Site - Gone! Date: 24 Jul 1998 22:13:43 +0300 http://members.xoom.com/xsx/ >From the site: "Information - Elsewhere" [Logo] "Owners Of Items Will Be Contacted Due Course" What items? -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: (klf) Please ignore this e-mail Date: 24 Jul 1998 16:28:58 -0700 Sorry, I'm testing to make sure my e-mail is still working properly, after my friend messed things up. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (klf) A Few Mundane and Idiotic Questions Date: 25 Jul 1998 00:55:19 EDT A Few Dumb Questions: 1. I've kinda missed out on who/what X$X is, could someone inform me? 2. What is/was the construction-esque project I've heard about? I think it had something to do with pyramids, could someone help me out in this regard? Hope to hear from someone who's informed, Jarrod Freedomatic Systematic World Control Magnetic Genetic Tha Mad Control..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Date: 24 Jul 1998 11:20:30 +0100 >It's possible I guess, but I don't think its the case. Whatever the original >origins of the disk, I believe it's just been rediscovered in a >warehouse somewhere. In what sort of range of places has it been seen? >Nicola at least has a copy, who else and from where? >For reference, the matrix on my original is KLF "CD 003 MPO 05 @@" Have been away for 3 weeks and just catching up on 400 mails! On the subject of this CDV. It's not a re-issue, just some old ones lying about in FOPPS warehouse. They are a distributor and have shit loads of stock which is why they are also selling Orblivion for £2.99. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 25 Jul 1998 10:11:08 -0600 > >As for the CDs themselves, they're of decent quality. You can tell the= WROST=20 >came from a tape. The quality isn't superb but it's certainly better then= the=20 >mp3s that are available. Which reminds me, I'll update them if the proprietors of=20 >that page would like. ;) All in all, the CDs are alright, but definitely not worth the=20 >46$ I paid. > Mmm roughly =A318 each, not that bad considering the content. Your complaining about the wait, did you order LSOM2 by any chance or WROST from Marshall as well. Now that IS a wait without hearing anything!!!;-) (I'm still waiting patiently) I think your judgement may have been clouded a tad by the wait and the silence - maybe if they arrived quicker you'd have been singing the praises! But goddam doesn't "Born Free" sound like something William Shatner would have done (remember Lucy in the Sky with diamonds!!) 'laters Graham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) Re: "new" timelordsingle Date: 25 Jul 1998 19:01:53 +0200 (MET DST) At 11:20 24.07.1998 +0100, you wrote: >Have been away for 3 weeks and just catching up on 400 mails! On the= subject >of this CDV. It's not a re-issue, just some old ones lying about in FOPPS >warehouse. They are a distributor and have shit loads of stock which is why >they are also selling Orblivion for =A32.99. >Phil. where can I buy the Timelords CDV and Orblivion then? Preferrably in=20 London? (please reply fast, I'm leaving for London in 24 hours) :-) erik Erik@xdollarx.com | www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/klf.html *** GOING ON HOLIDAY JULY 26 - 31 *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Drew Radtke Subject: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900h BST BBC Radio 2 Date: 25 Jul 1998 17:49:01 +0100 Dear all; Tonight I have read there is a documentary on Tammy Wynette on BBC Radio 2 in the UK at 1900h. The Guardian newspaper says it has an interview with, amongst others, Bill Drummond. Drew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Turbo Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 26 Jul 1998 14:34:08 +1000 Whiggy said: > looking back wondering if it was all worth it. HELL NO! I've never > paid so much for CDs and had to wait so long in my life. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I take it you never ordered LSOM II (which have been delivered though it took over a year) or The White Room Demos, which we are all still waiting on nearly 18 months after placing our orders and money!! Anyone know the latest?? Marshall?? Thanks, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Franz Enmark" Subject: (klf) The White Room Date: 26 Jul 1998 11:53:33 +0200 Hi. Only just re-subbed to be able to mail this, so please reply privately. About two months or something I recieved Lost Sounds of Mu 2 + that shirt, but I never got The White Room (the one of the two that I REALLY wanted). Does anybody know the progress on this one? Will it ever be realized, and if not, when will we get our money back? Thanks in advance Franz. --- WHEN DOGMA ENTERS THE BRAIN, ALL INTELLECTUAL ACTIVITY CEASES. - Robert Anton Wilson. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 26 Jul 1998 07:13:21 -0700 > Mmm roughly =A318 each, not that bad considering the content. > Your complaining about the wait, did you order LSOM2 by any chance or > WROST from Marshall as well. Now that IS a wait without hearing > anything!!!;-) (I'm still waiting patiently) I think your judgement may > have been clouded a tad by the wait and the silence - maybe if they > arrived quicker you'd have been singing the praises! But goddam doesn't > "Born Free" sound like something William Shatner would have done (rememb= er > Lucy in the Sky with diamonds!!) Ok, here's my thing, I wouldn't mind the high price if I'd received them q= uickly (although that price still stings), and I wouldn't have minded the wait if= they'd been cheap. But the two in tandem is beyond my tolerance. It's just not go= od business practice if you want people to buy from you in the future. But wh= at really got me pissed was that it appears that Mike lied to the people that= talked to him. He told them that he had sent out their CDs, when obviously he had= n't, because they still haven't gotten them. It seems rather unlikely that all = the stuff he claimed to have sent out disappeared in the mail somewhere. Don't you think? After the lies I'd pretty much assumed he'd scammed us. I was hones= tly quite surprised when the CDs actually showed up. Now with Marshall you may= hear nothing but that's better than lies. And in the end I think you end u= p with a better product. To answer the question if I ordered Marshall's CDs, no. I thought long and= hard which ones to get, Marshalls or Mikes. I can't afford to get all of them, (although I wish I could) and since people said good things about Mike's C= Ds and I knew Marshalls last project took forever, I picked Mikes. I don't kn= ow if that was a good choice or not. But I know I don't *feel* good about it, ev= en if I got my CDs first. The reason I said what I said in the first place was that I thought people= ought to know that if they deal with Mike, they may get what they order but they= 'll get dicked around. Of course I suppose that doesn't really matter since he's disappeared anyway. Yikes! Sorry about the long post, but I guess I needed to get that out. Hopefully, that's the end of it, and you'll all get your CDs soon. PS "Born Free" sounds like it ought to have gone on Bill's solo album. But= speaking of Will Shatner, wouldn't it be frightening if he and Bill did a = duet album. Eek! ;) Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Duttons CDs Arrived! Date: 26 Jul 1998 17:38:37 -0000 >But what >really got me pissed was that it appears that Mike lied to the people that talked >to him. He told them that he had sent out their CDs, when obviously he hadn't, >because they still haven't gotten them. It seems rather unlikely that all the stuff >he claimed to have sent out disappeared in the mail somewhere. Don't you >think Oh well, Marshall told me that my LSOM2 and TWROST was posted 3 weeks ago, I'm still waiting by my mailbox! Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Abel Subject: Re: (klf) The White Room Date: 27 Jul 1998 13:04:30 +0100 Franz Enmark wrote: > > Hi. > Only just re-subbed to be able to mail this, so please reply privately. > About two months or something I recieved Lost Sounds of Mu 2 + that > shirt, but I never got The White Room (the one of the two that I > REALLY wanted). Does anybody know the progress on this one? Will it > ever be realized, and if not, when will we get our money back? BWA_HAHAHAHAHA sorry dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900h BST BBC Radio 2 Date: 26 Jul 1998 18:49:56 +0100 -----Original Message----- >Tonight I have read there is a documentary on Tammy Wynette on BBC Radio >2 in the UK at 1900h. The Guardian newspaper says it has an interview >with, amongst others, Bill Drummond. Did anyone get this? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lawrence Eng Subject: (klf) KLF-influenced groups Date: 27 Jul 1998 09:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Other than the people who did Edelweiss, are there any groups known to have used or suspected to have used The Manual to achieve success? -Lawrence # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stuart Young" Subject: Re: (klf) A Few Mundane and Idiotic Questions Date: 28 Jul 1998 02:52:11 +0000 > A Few Dumb Questions: > > 1. I've kinda missed out on who/what X$X is, could someone inform me? is Jamm23data@aol.com still on the list? that's the person to ask. [??] > 2. What is/was the construction-esque project I've heard about? I think = it had > something to do with pyramids, just one pyramid, to be started in 1999 and finished in 2002, possibly on the Shores of Loch Ness (one of a number of possible sites but no others have been named [?] ) to be built from 85 million normal house bricks donated by members of the public, except for one brick which was formed from the ashes of one million pounds, to be built by K2 Plant Hire and gifted to the nation by them. A further announcement is expected in june 1999. from the Scottish Sun, Friday December 19. 1997. Page 43. MILLENNIUM PYRAMID BARMY BAND WHO BURNED =A31M WANT TO BUILD A MONUMENT ON LOCH NESS. By Brian Donnelly. The Scots band who torched =A31million in cash want to build a 150ft pyramid at Loch Ness to mark the millennium. Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond want to construct the monument out of 87million bricks. The pair - who found fame with the KLF and later formed the mysterious K Foundation - claim that's the number of people born in the UK this century. Pal DAVE BUCKLE, who's planning the Peoples' Pyramid, said: "Were looking at sites all over the country just now and the shores of Loch Ness is one option." "Wherever the pyramid ends up, we want it to be striking against the background." Jimmy and Bill, now known as 2K, filmed themselves burning =A31million cash on the Isle of Jura in 1994. Their recent single is called F*** the Millennium. Dave said: " The whole point of the Peoples Pyramid is that there is no real purpose to it." an extract from Fortean Times, Issue #107, February 1998 (Picture entitled 'The People's Pyramid' - pyramid in background, Moses-type character in foreground holding a stone tablet with '2K' engraved upon it. Similarly ancient-style workers carving out huge slabs of stone, but with the inclusion of JCB machinery dotted around.) all bound for *millennium* land THE ENIGMATIC MUSICAL pranksters formerly known as the KLF have again come to FT's attention with a curious plan to mark the new millennium. The duo, Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond, now operating as K2 Plant Hire, have announced that they intend to erect a massive pyramid containing one brick for every person born in the UK during the 20th century. The pyramid is to be built as part of their "Fuck The Millennium" project, at a location as yet undetermined, but assuredly not in the south-east of England. In keeping with previous Cauty and Drummond activities, there is a certain degree of whimsy to the whole enterprise. According to a statement on the K2 Plant Hire website (http://www.2kplanthire.ltd.uk) the pyramid is to be constructed without state or private funding of any sort. They request that members of the public "collect as many abandoned bricks as they may have lying around where lost bricks may be found" after which "K2 Plant Hire will collect the bricks and organise the rest". The idea was inspired by a recent telephone poll organised by the duo, in which members of the public voted by 18,436 to 2,227 in favour of the proposition, "Fuck The Millennium". Prior to this, the pair were rumoured to have attempted to put in a bid for the Rollright Stones [see FT105:21 and page 50 of this issue]. According to psychogeographer and novelist Stewart Home, they had lodged a bid which went far above all others, but were thwarted by then owner Pauline Flick. According to Home, there were worries that their acquisition of the Stones "would result in the violent death of innumerable public figures". The pair's previous antics have included dumping a dead sheep at a music awards ceremony after firing blanks at the audience from a machine gun, purportedly burning 1,000,000 on a remote Scottish island, and opposing the Turner prize by awarding 40,000 - twice the Turner prize money - to winner Rachael Whiteread for "the worst work of art" of 1994. Big Issue, 15-21 Sept Guardian, 5 Nov 1997 [does anyone have these that the FT referred to? will swop photocopies with fellow kollectors] .. . . . . Stuart Andrew Young will emigrate to New Zealand on September the twelth 1998 home page and CV http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ .. . . . . stuey@easynet.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Subject: (klf) Marshall Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:20:05 +0000 Does anyone out there have Marshalls e-mail address? I've managed to loose it and I need to get hold of him. Thanx /Henrik -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Poirier Subject: (klf) bad wisdom ISBN plz Date: 28 Jul 1998 18:25:54 -0400 Hello all, does anyone have the ISBN for Bad Wisdom? can you still order it from Penguin UK? dave poirier dave@eyeonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xav Subject: (klf) Attn : Stephane Monthieu, and my apologies to others. Date: 28 Jul 1998 22:57:56 +0200 Contact moi, j'ai paum=E9 ton adresse. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Sampson 01276 693068 Subject: (klf) Bad Wisdom tunes... Date: 29 Jul 1998 09:04:15 +0100 (BST) Hi there everyone, As I've been away from the list for a while I was wondering if the Bad Wisdom LP was ever released, I've got most (if not all) the Kalevala singles, just wondered if they made it onto a compilation album or not. Cheerio neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: protobleep@wwdg.com Subject: (klf) images Date: 29 Jul 1998 05:51:25 -0600 is there a website with images of the original klf-t-shirts? or can anyone send me some? ive got the infosheet of -who killed the jams- with drawings of -shag shag shag- and -120 bpm-, but id need pics of the -klf / pyramid blaster in circle-. :) cheers, prt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher.D.Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Viva Viagra Date: 29 Jul 1998 15:37:55 +0100 () It's quite a common occurrance on the is list to have people reporting new stuff from Bill and Jim, that they report sound like 1987/shag times. But I was surprised to find in today's copuy of the NME a review of 'Via Viagra' by THE JAMS, on white label, without hearing anything about it on this list. So as the review points out it is absolutely nothing to do with Drummond and Cauty, but does indeed freaturesamples from 1987. Does anyone have a clue about this one? rgds CHris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900h Date: 29 Jul 1998 07:53:16 PDT Hello everybody, >Tonight I have read there is a documentary on Tammy Wynette on BBC Radio>2 in the UK at 1900h. The Guardian newspaper says it has an interview>with, amongst others, Bill Drummond. Well did anyone see this, if yes, what did he say? I went to see Dee Snider ( from Twisted Sister) last week, GREAT appearance by the way... Anyway the same night before DEEs app. the DJ played a dancetrack that sounded quite familiar. The track was `an ordinary dancetrack` but with the guitar and vocals from " ace of spades ", the same guitarsound that our band sampled on A:WTIL..... Anybody heading to the GREEK island ZAKYNTHOS this summer? Me and my pals are going there in august. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) IGUN CD Date: 29 Jul 1998 16:07:41 -0000 I was in Berwick Street, London at the weekend, and Mister CD had a whole pile of the CD single for IGUN for =A31.50 each. So if anyone's in the area, and doesn't already have a copy, whizz on down and get one! BTW, 'Viva Viagra' by The Jams, was reviewed in todays NME. From the review, it could be that the reviewer is a member of this list!! As a final point - was there not a list member who lived near that **** Dutton? I seem to recall that someone went round his house and soon after got his stuff. Would the same person be willing to do a repeat performance on behalf of all us poor sods who are still waiting (god, I'm sick of that pun). Mark This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) Viva Viagra Date: 29 Jul 1998 14:07:26 EDT > NME a review of 'Via Viagra' by THE JAMS, on white label, without > hearing anything about it on this list. So as the review points out > it is absolutely nothing to do with Drummond and Cauty, but does > indeed freaturesamples from 1987. > Does anyone have a clue about this one? There was a URL to hear it in RealAudio a while back posted here. It's crap. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cory Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN CD Date: 29 Jul 1998 20:15:22 +0100 Reed, Mark wrote: > > I was in Berwick Street, London at the weekend, and Mister CD had a > whole pile of the CD single for IGUN for £1.50 each. > > So if anyone's in the area, and doesn't already have a copy, whizz on > down and get one! > Can anyone who's going get a couple for me and a mate? Just thought i'd ask first. Cory. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) KLF on german telly Date: 29 Jul 1998 22:34:58 +0200 Hi mumu-mates, yesterday I was watching the german tv-series "Im Namen des Gesetzes" on RTL. The episode I was watching was called "Vollmond" and I was very surprised when I noticed that they used LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL (THE IRON HORSE MIX) as backgroundmusic for a scene in a club. This series is a new german production, so why did they use such an old track??? I am quite sure there must be some KLF-fans at RTL ;-). Hope they will show this one again so that I can tape it... very strange?!? oki, I need an other beer... Michael -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) KLF on german telly Date: 30 Jul 1998 04:33:13 +0300 Hi Michael and everybody! Michael wrote: > Hi mumu-mates, > yesterday I was watching the german tv-series "Im Namen des Gesetzes" on > RTL. > The episode I was watching was called "Vollmond" and I was very > surprised when > I noticed that they used LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL (THE IRON HORSE MIX) > as backgroundmusic for a scene in a club. This series is a new german > production, so why > did they use such an old track??? I am quite sure there must be some > KLF-fans at RTL ;-). On the same subject i think, i didn't thought that i'll post it to the list but this email inspired me to do so i guess... Anyway, i was watching some TV show on the Israeli science channel (the show wasn't made in Israel tho), the show was about vegetarian people (which i am btw). There was a part that they showed some famous people that are vegetarian and in the background they played "Jerusalem On The Moors"! And at the end of show they thank "The JAMMs"). That's it, David 8?) "Animals Are Not Ours To Eat" -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://www.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: snuffy Subject: Re: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900 Date: 18 Jul 1998 13:36:37 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, David Lindgren wrote: > I went to see Dee Snider ( from Twisted Sister) last week, GREAT > appearance by the way... > Anyway the same night before DEEs app. the DJ played a dancetrack that > sounded quite familiar. The track was `an ordinary dancetrack` but with > the guitar and vocals from " ace of spades ", the same guitarsound that > our band sampled on A:WTIL..... I guess I got that record, it's an CCN Remix(Andrew Eldritch(?)/Sisters Of Mercy) from 1993. Oyvind # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Fw: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900h BST BBC Radio 2 Date: 30 Jul 1998 16:12:11 +0100 On Monday, July 27, 1998 5:20 PM, I Wrote: >From: Drew >>Tonight I have read there is a documentary on Tammy Wynette on BBC Radio >>2 in the UK at 1900h. The Guardian newspaper says it has an interview >>with, amongst others, Bill Drummond. > > Did anyone get this? >Phil. Someone must have got this! Please let me know. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Fw: (klf) Documentary on Tammy tonight 1900h BST BBC Radio 2 Date: 30 Jul 1998 16:12:11 +0100 On Monday, July 27, 1998 5:20 PM, I Wrote: >From: Drew >>Tonight I have read there is a documentary on Tammy Wynette on BBC Radio >>2 in the UK at 1900h. The Guardian newspaper says it has an interview >>with, amongst others, Bill Drummond. > > Did anyone get this? >Phil. Someone must have got this! Please let me know. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Stanbury Subject: Bad Wisdom in the US (was: (klf) KLF White Room) Date: 31 Jul 1998 01:09:06 -0400 At 11:44 AM 7/7/98 -0400, brian j parker wrote: >amazon.com carries the Illuminatus! trilogy, as I'm sure a number of >smaller bookstores do. It's not an uncommon book. Yeah, Illuminatus can be found at most weird alternative-style sorts of bookstores, like Tower books and the sort. Or at any BIG bookstore. >I've never seen Bad Wisdom, though. It's not in print in the U.S. I special ordered it from the U.K. for only $14, throught Waterstone's, but I'm sure most good bookstores can provide that. It only took like three weeks to get it, too, as opposed to their original claim of six to eight. --Geo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) Sister Ray Date: 31 Jul 1998 19:04:53 +0200 Hi, I lost the URL of Sister Ray, London. Can someone please give me the URL (the one where you can order CDs online???). Thanx... Michael -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: (klf) Re: Kalevala (fwd) Date: 31 Jul 1998 18:14:06 +0100 (BST) Following a querey to Probe Records in Liverpool (who're hosting the Kalevala web pages) I got this reply... Maybe we'll know more soon? :) NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- NIk The Kalevala "import office" seems to have closed. We will be trying to get in touch with the Finnish HQ direct. You'll be the first to know if we hear anything Jon K All the best to you and yours. http://www.probe-records.com enquire@probe-records.com Probe Records 9, Slater St, Liverpool L14BW U.K. Phone 0151 708 8815 Fax 0151 709 7121 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Whiggy" Subject: (klf) I was bounced Date: 31 Jul 1998 14:08:36 -0700 For mysterious reasons, I stopped getting mail on monday. I just got of the bounce list, and resubscribed. So if anyone sent me any private mail, you'll have to resend it. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 Hr. Service Station" Subject: (klf) TWROST discs are arriving week of Aug. 3-7 Date: 01 Aug 1998 00:53:13 -0400 Kind friends of the KLF Mailing List, The copies of The White Room Original Soundtrack discs will be here next week, and shipping will commence soon after that. They will be sent out on a organized / chaos basis, as I didn't log the arrival date of each of your orders in the master list. It is written on each order, and I will make every attempt to get the older (paid earlier) orders out first. They have been in a growing stack, positioned by arrival, so that shouldn't be a problem. They were jumbled during the first half of the mailing of LSOM2. I just wanted to make the statement so people who paid in the beginning won't be upset when someone posts that they got their order after only sending their payment off a week prior. They will all be sent in a continuous series, with each day's shipment being as many as I can pack each night before the calories in my system expire and I fall into dreamland. 6^) Sitting here on the cusp of completion of this, yet another cycle in the underground support of a pair of artists whose works we collectively keep alive, I'd like to say "thank you" to everyone involved in the various projects I have been a part of over the years involving the many faces of Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty. Without the help of every one of you who either mastered a disc, loaned a tape, designed a package, or even purchased a copy, these discs would not have been possible. One would be hard pressed to find another news group that keeps the flame of passion burning so brightly for their artists that uses an information exchange structure as involved and complex as ours. MP3's and CD-Rs are still new technologies, and not all of the other groups are jammed full of wire heads. Even more unusual is the structured and universal support of bootlegged recordings within the group, even as far as group participation in the creation of them! What started in 1989 with the renegade CD pressing of "1987" by myself and a partner, and continued into 1998 with the issuing of The White Room Original Sound Track, was a labor of love. I was a huge fan of Pop Will Eat Itself, and the owner of the record shop where I was employed in 1998 suggested I check out a few of the JAMMs 12"s we had in the bins. So I put one on, (I don't even remember which one, since I went through the whole lot that day!) and found a new love. Here were artists who borrowed other people's works to create their own personal statements. So simple in mechanics that anyone and everyone could to it! With the release of "1987", I myself borrowed the works of Bill & Jimmy to make my own statement about censorship and government control. Boy was it hard to sell a disc whose whole street visibility was that it wasn't legally available. I had a store that sold quite a few because the shop owner thought it was a great mixed tape/party record. Whatever it takes for people to hear and enjoy it! Now that MP3's and CDRs are accessible to more people, the time comes to ask this question: If there was to be a "Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 3" or another disc of a vital reissue, such as "Space", "Who Killed The JAMMs", "Shag Times" or "The What Time Is Love Story" would you buy the pressed disc? I would have the disc pre manufactured and will announce to the list when it is available. The discs will be shipped the day after your payment arrives. Simple and easy. So please write to me just a quick note with "KLF YES" or "KLF NO" in the subject. If there are enough positive responses, we will send the next project off to press in August. It will be a cleaned up and amplified version of "Space" with extra tracks, or another rarities comp, LSOM3. If you answer yes, please state your preference in the subject : "KLF YES SPACE" or "KLF YES LSOM3" Thanks, and I apologize for not being in touch more often. It's so easy to watch the world moving in front of you. You forget that communication is two way. Hope this note helps alleviate a few fears, audio, Marshall Dickson 24 Hr. Service Station http://24hr.com p.s. If you are new to the list and want to know what this letter is all about, read on: Copies of these discs are still available for $20.00 each. Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 1 Lost Sounds of Mu Vol. 2 1987 / What The Fuck Is Going On The White Room OST TRACK LISTINGS 1987 / WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON 01. Me Ru Con 02. The Queen And I 03. All You Need Is Love 04. Next 05. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkeys 06. Don't Take Five )Take What You Want) 07. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 THE LOST SOUNDS OF MU: VOL. I 01. 3 A.M. Eternal (Original) 02. Justified And Ancient (Anti A Cappella Mix) 03. What Time Is Love? (Acid Mix) 04. Feel This [Discotech 2000] 05. Kylie Said Harder 06. What Time Is Love? (Virtual Reality Mix) 07. Madrugada Eterna (Club Mix) 08. 3 A.M. Eternal (Moody Boy) 09. Mars [SPACE] 10. What Time Is Love? (Live Version) 11. What Goes On? (Ambient Mix Part 3) 12. It's Grim Up North (Omsk Mix) [The JAMMs] THE LOST SOUNDS OF MU: VOL. II 1 3 PM Electro 2 I Gotta CD (7" Edit) 3 Gary In The Tardis (Minimal) 4 Kylie In A Trance (Remix) 5 So Hard (KLF vs. PSB) 6 It Must Be Obvious (Ufo Mix) 7 Policy Of Truth (Trancentral mix) 8 Justified & Ancient (Demo MKII) 9 Last Train To Trancentral (Razormaid Mix) 10 January What Time Is Love 11 3 AM Eternal (Live At The Brits) 12 K Cera Cera (War Is Over If You Want It) THE WHITE ROOM: ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK 1. KSTJ (edit) 2. 3 am Eternal 3. Go to Sleep 4. Make it Rain 5. Church of the KLF 6. No More Tears 7. Build a Fire 8. Lovers Side 9. The White Room 10. Born Free 11. WTIL (Monster Mix) 12. Madrugada Eterna 13. Primal Megamix 14. Kylie Said Trance 15. Kylie Said Trance (Extended) ******************************************************************* Postage rates are for up to 7 discs. (Ordering more? Please double the postage.) U.S.A = $3.00 Europe & Canada = $5.00 Pacific Rim = $6.00 All others = $7.00 That's it! Add up your order, send me an e-mail reserving your order and send off your payment. Please make payment in cash or money order only. I have had problems with bank transfers and a check. Sorry. :) Also BE SURE to include a shipping address and your e-mail address so I can get in touch with you if necessary! :) My address is: Marshall Dickson 2521 Oakrill Rd. Marietta, GA 30062 USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf