From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #148 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Friday, October 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:43:39 +0200 From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Still on the Timelords releases subject! Hi again ppl, Sorry, I forgot to mention this on my previous email, this is not on the site that I've talked about before. This is something that I've ordered from someone and that is also listed on www5.cddb.com "CD Data Base". There is another version of the "Doctorin' The Tardis" CD-Single that is missing from the discography, is it a bootleg? is it a reissue? All I know for now is the track-list: 1.Doctorin' the Tardis (radio mix) 2.Doctorin' the Tardis (mega mix) 3.Doctorin' the Tardis (instrumental) 4.Gary in the Tardis (radio mix) 5.Gary in the Tardis (minal mix) 6.Gary joins the J.A.M.S (EEC CD-Singles?) I'll know more information when I'll receive my copy. Cheers, David A. - -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:58:11 +0200 From: "Daniel Albert" Subject: (klf) chillout hi, does anybody know the origin of the melody on the chillout cd, song #12 (A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back)? I only know that it is a oldy and sounds exactly the same as on the klf album. thanks dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:03:36 -0400 From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) chillout Daniel Albert wrote: > > hi, > > does anybody know the origin of the melody on the chillout cd, song #12 > (A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back)? I only know that it > is a oldy and sounds exactly the same as on the klf album. Ahh, "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was one of my grandmother's favorite songs. This guy has a WAV file of it at http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Park/9293/ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------- "People often confuse difficulty with time." ==================================================== Jerry Quartley.....................jrq@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:58:34 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis CD3's! > Anyway, the interesting thing is that according to the site there are > two Timelords CD3 releases. (on the discograpy there is only one!) But > they both have the same catalog number?! Anyway, here are the scanned > pictures of the Timelords CD3's in both versions: > > The discography version: > http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other21.jpg CD3: 1988 US (TVT Records TVT 4024-CD3) 3:37 Doctorin' The Tardis (7" mix) 8:15 Doctorin' The Tardis (12" mix) 6:22 Gary Joins The JAMS [mislabeled "Gary In The Tardis"] > The other version: > http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other22.jpg 3.42 Doctorin' The Tardis 4.33 Doctorin' The Tardis (dub mix) 6.33 Gary In The Tardis > Btw: Take a look at the other version track-list, is it club or dub? =) That would be dub. I happen to have this second version of the single. The track times I've included above. The dub mix sound like the minimal version to my ears, but I'd have to do a closer check. Which is the more common version, I wonder? - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:14:39 EDT From: Jarrod5083@aol.com Subject: (klf) Sabotage Chill out i happened to notice this cd, Sabotage Chill out. Is this the famed Chill Out Tribute with the wolves? Jarrod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:21:44 GMT From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Re: Still on the Timelords releases subject! David Ashkenazi writes: > This is something that I've ordered from someone and that is also listed on > www5.cddb.com "CD Data Base". All I know for now is the track-list: > 1.Doctorin' the Tardis (radio mix) > 2.Doctorin' the Tardis (mega mix) > 3.Doctorin' the Tardis (instrumental) > 4.Gary in the Tardis (radio mix) > 5.Gary in the Tardis (minal mix) > 6.Gary joins the J.A.M.S i have this. it's a european pressing - dutch, i think. l8r. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:13:25 PDT From: "m u t e" Subject: Re: (klf) Tracy Tracey >what, as in tracey from the primitives? wasn't crash a great song, by >the by. No, Tracy from Voice Of The Beehive, as Bill does mention in The Lighthouse At The Top Of The World. Tracey from the Primitives is, according to Rich Poppie in a BRA interview last year, working as a hat-check girl in some non-London English nightclub. And Sick Of It was better. Mute! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:28:52 +0100 From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened Smiley writes >> I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info >> about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million >> Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story >> (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a >> source he would not reveal. > >well... > >...that'll be a dig at the millenium dome then. > >could be anybody, but i would suspect Mark Thomas (or someone connected). I very much doubt that Mark Thomas himself was involved in funding that but I most definitely can find out in order to count him out from the possible candidates (Mr. Mandelson`s also out of the running I suppose!) The first of the updated Mark Thomas Comedy Product repeats of the second series started on Channel 4 last week and that was the one about the Millennium Dome. Coming up is an updated episode with the Rocket Launcher outside Westminster Abbey with "The Magnificent" as the soundtrack and in next week`s show (the radioactive seagull shit spectacular from Sellafield) there should be a rendition of "Chill Out song #12" aka 'A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back' There`s also a midi file of "Stranger on the Shore" that I found somewhere and saved to disk. In fact I`ve found quite a few songs in midi format that the KLF have utilised. Maybe someone could edit them together as a KLF remix or something? I`ve also, found two midi versions of The Magnificent Seven theme that some enterprising soul might be able to make a bit more like the Bill and Jimmy version? AFAIK MT still hasn`t seen the actual finished copy of the pilot interview show ("The Cutting Room") that he did with Bill Drummond back in March last year. I`ll try and find out who the production company were or if he can finally get a copy that could be erm... disseminated to a more accepting audience. +--------------------------------+ |The UPDATED GeNeTiCaLlY MoDiFiEd| | Mark Thomas Comedy Product | | http://bounce.to/MTCP | +--------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:36:01 PDT From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction due to the disappointing response to the auction, i have decided to extend it to sunday and email the list to the group: The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover M$10 Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $28 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed M$5 America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)M$5 (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)M$5 (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)M$5 CDs History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:35:44 PDT From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction due to the disappointing response to the auction, i have decided to extend it to sunday and email the list to the group: The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover M$10 Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $28 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed M$5 America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)M$5 (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)M$5 (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)M$5 CDs History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:11:49 GMT From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened "John.C.S.Quel" writes: > Smiley writes > >> I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info > >> about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million > >> Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story > >> (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a > >> source he would not reveal. > > > >well... > > > >...that'll be a dig at the millenium dome then. > > > >could be anybody, but i would suspect Mark Thomas (or someone connected). > > I very much doubt that Mark Thomas himself was involved in funding that > but I most definitely can find out in order to count him out from the > possible candidates (Mr. Mandelson`s also out of the running I suppose!) > The first of the updated Mark Thomas Comedy Product repeats of the > second series started on Channel 4 last week and that was the one about > the Millennium Dome. actually, that was what had triggered the thought - watching it the night before...just a VERY wild guess... btw, saw Jimmi C at the Orb aftershow drinkies at the Royal Albert Hall tonight. Youth was there too. when they stood next to each other, it looked like an old 'Brillian' picture sleeve...! ;-) l8r. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:52:31 +0100 From: Christian Villum Subject: Re: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction Hey Johan... How about using info (prices) from this auction in your KLF-price compilation? Just a thought... Christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:16:29 +0100 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) chillout - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) chillout >Ahh, "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was one of my >grandmother's favorite songs. Yeah, I have an old crackly 45 of it that my Gran let me have, nice! It was a big hit apparently. Phil.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:44:12 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Tony Thorpe Remixes This is new release that you can purchase at Roughtrade. DUB/DIGI DUB ETC digi dub remixes by tony thorpe/nuf cd 11.99 12.99 http://www.roughtrade.com "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:16:35 PDT From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) Re:KLF mORBid Auction Update thanx for everybody who has responded so far, this auction is now officially rolling! here's a current listing of price for the KLF related goodies. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/7129/ and a note for you KLHeffers that i have added these late findings: The JAMMs: All You Need Is Love 12": 1987 UK (The Sound Of Mu(sic) JAMS 23T) [x5000; in James Anderton ps] M$30 Disco 2000: One Love Nation 12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; D2002) M$15 (V0)KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (pure trance original) 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005T) [reissue; 15 Jul 91 w/UPC Code?]M$15 on to the current bids: The JAMMs: All You Need Is Love 12": 1987 UK (The Sound Of Mu(sic) JAMS 23T) [x5000; in James Anderton ps] M$30 The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Disco 2000: One Love Nation 12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; D2002) M$15 (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 (V0)3 a.m. Eternal (pure trance original) 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005T) [reissue; 15 Jul 91 w/UPC Code?]M$15 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover $10 by Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $31 by kaeld@library.uwa.edu.au (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed $6 by adavid@inter.net.il America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)$10 bynelleman@biobase.dk (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)$10 by nelleman@biobase.dk (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)$10 by nelleman@biobase.dk Cds History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #148 *************************