From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #195 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Wednesday, March 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 195 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:19:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Neil Sampson 01276 693030 Subject: (klf) black room demo.. quick note to say i've just skipped thru the cd...mmm thrash metal it is, not sure if the thing is actually the black room though, but then again i guess very few people can be sure of it. the version of 3am doesn't sound like the version from the brits although it sounds like it could still be bill on vocals - although, again not sure. i haven't listened to my 7" of ENT vs KLF in ages so i can't put my hand on my heart and say its different. if it is different, perhaps this gives a bit of credibility to this being the black room. can anyone back me up here ? with the exception of 3am, the cd is entirely instrumental. just thought you might like to know... cheerio neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:46:40 +0200 From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) black room demo.. Hi Neil, Any chance that you'll make this tracks available on the net somewhere in mp3 format? You can upload them to one of the Frontnet FTP's or... send them to me and I'll do it. Anyone thinks that it's a good idea? Regards, David A. Neil Sampson 01276 693030 wrote: > quick note to say i've just skipped thru the cd...mmm thrash metal it > is, not sure if the thing is actually the black room though, but then > again i guess very few people can be sure of it.=A0 the version of 3am > doesn't sound like the version from the brits although it sounds like > it could still be bill on vocals - although, again not sure.=A0 i > haven't listened to my 7" of ENT vs KLF in ages so i can't put my hand > on my heart and say its different. > > if it is different, perhaps this gives a bit of credibility to this > being the black room.=A0 can anyone back me up here ?=A0 with the > exception of 3am, the cd is entirely instrumental. > > just thought you might like to know... - -- __________________________________ I've lost the rest of my signature file on a crash... - ICQ: 13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:06:09 +0000 From: michael_kennedy@derwentside.ac.uk (MICHAEL KENNEDY) Subject: (klf) babylon i noticed in a local record store that the black dog feat. ofra haza single 'babylon' is out it comes on 2 cds, one of which contains the scourge of the earth the label on the cover says 'includes mix by jimmi 'KLF' cauty ' i just thought i'd mention it i will be buying it tomorrow # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 06:20:22 PST From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) black room demo.. Back..is Bizzzare i think it's a good idea. i sort of hate thrash so-called-music, but i might check it out. By the way how's iot going you guyz??haven't seen you in ages!!:) >Hi Neil, > >Any chance that you'll make this tracks available on the net somewhere >in mp3 format? You can upload them to one of the Frontnet FTP's or... >send them to me and I'll do it. > >Anyone thinks that it's a good idea? > >Regards, >David A. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:29:22 +0100 From: pieter gieszen <1018848@icim.fnt.hvu.nl> Subject: RE: (klf) nothing to do with noman Cook Date sent: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:40:04 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) nothing to do with noman Cook To: 'ray telford' , klf mailing list > > sorry for wasting time when we should be Dis-Cussing (ahem) norman > cook > but does anyone have track lists fro these two box sets available > from > pinnacle?? > they're 30 quid a pop and i didn't want to just throw my money away > did i? > (or burn it for that matter) > > commercial box - klf - TOCP7401/3 > underground - klf -TOCP7404/7 > Does this mean there still available? I'm still looking for box 2 and I wouldn't mind to pay 30 quid for a box. Let me know. thanks pg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:31:21 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Space noises This is only very tenuously connected to the KLF... I've been asked to do sound design for a theatre production (which is in the York, England area during the week beginning April 19th- e-mail me if you want more info!), it's a weird sci-fi thing and I've been fiddling around for a while. The style I'm aiming for is in some ways similar to the KLF/Jimmy Cauty "Space" album. Mostly lacking in a beat, but with definite dance-music elements in places as well. I just wondered if there was anyone else on the list who dabbles in this kind of thing- particularly if in the UK- who might be interested in chatting privately about sound processing etc. Sorry for interrupting, Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk np: nothing # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:24:09 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) babylon On Mon 22 Mar, MICHAEL KENNEDY wrote: > > i noticed in a local record store that the black dog feat. ofra haza > single 'babylon' is out > it comes on 2 cds, one of which contains the scourge of the earth > the label on the cover says 'includes mix by jimmi 'KLF' cauty ' > i just thought i'd mention it > i will be buying it tomorrow Actually, _both_ versions contain a remix by Jimi Cauty, because there are indeed two Jimmi Cauty remixes. CD1: Babylon- Hammurabi (3:41) Babylon- Hanging Gardens (remix by Peter Lazonby) (9:28) Babylon- AK9 Ate My Pasty (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) (5:41) CD2: Babylon- My Pasty Weighs A Ton (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) (4:10) Babylon- Tower Of Babel (remix by Terminalhead) (6:43) Babylon- The Blue Mix (6:02) Haven't actually listened to it yet, because I also finally found a copy of N-Trance's new album "Happy Hour" today and that reached my player first. It's apparently been out a few weeks, but the amount of promotion it's had has been pretty much nil? Oh well. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk np: nothing # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:31:23 +0100 From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) Ignore. Just helping Mark Sinclair Ok Mark, hopefully you now have two messages of this. And welcome to the list, btw... Cheers! //FRiD - ----------------------------------------------------- Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.vxu.se http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:48:21 PST From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Definite article? >From: mr christopher david gilmour >To: klf@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klf) Moody Boys mix >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:56:49 +0000 > >The KLF always said that KLF doesn't stand for anything, and if anyone >said they knew what it stood for then it wasn't them. >That's what the KLF said, so it must be true! > On the back of this, I'd lke to throw up a new discussion topic. One which is sure to promote heated debate in all quarters. Is it "KLF" or "The KLF" ?? :) NIk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:59:37 PST From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Babylon 2 >From: Stuart Bruce >To: KLF mailing list >Subject: Re: (klf) babylon >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:24:09 +0100 (BST) >Actually, _both_ versions contain a remix by Jimi Cauty, because there are indeed two Jimmi Cauty remixes. > >CD1: >Babylon- Hammurabi (3:41) >Babylon- Hanging Gardens (remix by Peter Lazonby) (9:28) >Babylon- AK9 Ate My Pasty (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) (5:41) >CD2: >Babylon- My Pasty Weighs A Ton (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) >(4:10) >Babylon- Tower Of Babel (remix by Terminalhead) (6:43) >Babylon- The Blue Mix (6:02) Both are at a special week 1 price of ukp1.99 and include remixes by 'Jimmy "KLF Cauty' according to the sleeve stickers... I bought CD1 today on the grounds that I already had the "My Pastie Weighs a Ton" mix on the promo-CD I got sent. Having listened, compared and contrasted the two, I feel a cock-up has been made at some point. The mix on CD1 (AK9 Ate my Pastie) and the mix on the promo (My Pastie Weighs a Ton) are identical, in both length and content. Which means that the mixes on CD1 and CD2 have had their names swapped. Quick, down to HMV to buy the lot, before the mistake is realised, the sleeves re-printed and a valuable collectors item is founded :) BTW has anyone had any luck chasing down that Marilyn Manson "I Don't like drugs..." Cauty mix? Can't find it anywhere... Cheers, NIk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:13:06 +0100 From: "Klaus M Seiner" Subject: (klf) K cera cera single - whats it worth? Can anyone name a price for this CD single? thanx Klaus - ---- www.karanet.at - - - - Austria´s BIG one ---- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:52:45 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) K cera cera single - whats it worth? > Can anyone name a price for this CD single? I paid more than I am willing to admit for mine. :) but I see them regularly at the 50 pound mark. or is that $50? - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:04:49 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) My opinion: Babylon, & Happy Hour Just been listening to the new Black Dog single with the Scourge of the Earth remixes on it, as well as the N-Trance album. And playing with a Roland SH-101 I've been leant, so my ears have been having a busy day... A few quick opinions. The Jimi Cauty remixes of "Babylon" _rock_. I was personally disappointed with the Placebo remix, I thought it was uneventful and slightly unlistenable, but this is a great improvement. It's upbeat and fairly epic (sounds a little like the beginning of the 30-minute version of "The Rites Of Mu", lots of epic chords and strange voices and choral wailing and explosions and stuff). Very, very listenable indeed. Perhaps my only complaint is that it's not vocal enough, and doesn't develop as much as it might; but otherwise great. The two mixes aren't all that different as far as I can tell from a couple of listens; the "My Pasty Weighs A Ton" mix is slightly preferred, and I wasn't expecting someone to actually _rap_ the words "my pasty weighs a ton"! Slightly reminiscent of "The Magnificent" for some reason, although I can't explain way. Slight jungle overtones, perhaps that's it. By contrast, the N-Trance album I mentioned having found earlier (KLF connection: Ricardo da Force), is very weak indeed. Not a shadow of their first album "Electronic Pleasure" by any stretch. Most of the tracks are formulaic and extremely unimaginative. There's even a couple of blatant KLF samples in there. The only tracks worth listening to (from 2 listens) are the last three- "Superstition" is an example of a moderately _good_ cover version (but ignore the versions of "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?", "Paradise City" or "D.I.S.C.O.", they're awful). "Amadeus" is listenable, and I always liked "The Mind Of The Machine". Whereas their first album had a touch of class, the second album is painfully cheesy pap most of the way through. All my own personal and unwanted opinion, of course. But since I'm not due to write my music reviews for Charm magazine for another 3 weeks, I thought I'd pass the time... . Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk np: nothing # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:35:41 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Babylon 2 On Mon 22 Mar, Nick Gilmour wrote: > From: Stuart Bruce > >CD1: > >Babylon- Hammurabi (3:41) > >Babylon- Hanging Gardens (remix by Peter Lazonby) (9:28) > >Babylon- AK9 Ate My Pasty (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) (5:41) > >CD2: > >Babylon- My Pasty Weighs A Ton (infected by the Scourge of the Earth) > >(4:10) > >Babylon- Tower Of Babel (remix by Terminalhead) (6:43) > >Babylon- The Blue Mix (6:02) > > Both are at a special week 1 price of ukp1.99 and include remixes by > 'Jimmy "KLF Cauty' according to the sleeve stickers... Yep. If anyone wants them sent to them in the US, I could do that for $12 for both including postage. E-mail me privately if interested, and be sure to e-mail me before the end of the week... > I bought CD1 today on the grounds that I already had the "My Pastie > Weighs a Ton" mix on the promo-CD I got sent. Having listened, > compared and contrasted the two, I feel a cock-up has been made at > some point. The mix on CD1 (AK9 Ate my Pastie) and the mix on the > promo (My Pastie Weighs a Ton) are identical, in both length and > content. But the CD2 mix contains far more references to pasties weighing tonnes than the mix on CD1. So I would suggest (without any other justification) that the cock-up was on the promo CD, and that the commercially available single is correctly labelled. > Which means that the mixes on CD1 and CD2 have had their names > swapped. Quick, down to HMV to buy the lot, before the mistake is > realised, the sleeves re-printed and a valuable collectors item is > founded :) Hmmm. My local HMV weren't even stocking the single, and Virgin Megastore had a few copies on a lower shelf (the main single promotion of the week is quite clearly "Flat Beat" or whatever it's called- number one no question this coming Sunday). "Babylon" is not exactly high-profile. > BTW has anyone had any luck chasing down that Marilyn Manson "I Don't > like drugs..." Cauty mix? Can't find it anywhere... Not yet. One of my friends (vague friends) is a _big_ Marilyn Manson fan, and she doesn't know anything of a "I Don't Like Drugs..." Cauty remix. But she's not the remix-fanatic kind, so that proves nothing. Too many posts in one day I suspect. Sorry all. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk np: nothing # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Jeremiah \"Spassvogel\" Rickert" Subject: (klf) my Shag Times CD I ended up putting the Shag Times CD on Ebay after all, in case anyone's interested. The URL is: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=81261470 jr - ----------------------------------------- Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. - ----------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:59:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Definite article? > On the back of this, I'd lke to throw up a new discussion topic. One > which is sure to promote heated debate in all quarters. > > Is it "KLF" or "The KLF" ?? When referring to the group, "The KLF". But you can use "KLF" as an adjective. If you'd want to. "That was a very KLF thing to do". I never held with the dropping of "The" when talking about the group, although at the time it was the "in" thing to do, along with every other act that was about then (although most never had "the" in the first place). Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 05:07:22 -0500 From: cdrich@juno.com Subject: Re: (klf) Babylon 2 On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:59:37 PST "Nick Gilmour" writes: >BTW has anyone had any luck chasing down that Marilyn Manson "I Don't >like drugs..." Cauty mix? Can't find it anywhere... I actually saw both CD singles for the Marilyn Manson here in Detroit last Saturday. However, since they were $12 EACH, I passed them up. For that same $12, I'll get both Black Dog singles from Stuart. CDRich CDs for sale or trade. New titles added every Sunday http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:35:46 +0100 From: John Olsson Subject: Re: (klf) black room demo.. David Ashkenazi wrote: > > Anyone thinks that it's a good idea? > I think an even better idea would be to send it to Marshall so it could be on one of the "Lost Sounds of Mu" CD:s... :) Perhaps this is already in the pipeline? /John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:04:12 +0000 From: mr christopher david gilmour Subject: Re: (klf) Definite article? >Is it "KLF" or "The KLF" ?? "KLF is gonna rock you" "Take me to the church of the KLF" both and neither, accept the contradictions bro CHr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:58:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Definite article? > "KLF is gonna rock you" Was written by some rapper. > "Take me to the church of the KLF" Was written by The KLF. > both and neither, accept the contradictions bro :) Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:00:21 -0000 From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) The Black Dog Got the two Black Dog singles today for =A32.99 each. One JC mix on = each CD, mmmmm. And a sticker on each one which prominently mentions Jimmy "KLF" Cauty. So, the Black Dog obviously believe that the KLF name will help them sell a few more copies. Just hope the tracks are better than the Placebo remix. Incidentally, I have been buying Black Dog records for years and years, and can categorically state that they have nothing whatsoever to do = with the KLF, aside from these new remixes, and a similar world view.=20 The credits for the JC remixes caused a smirk - I see that Trancentral has become "Glamcentral West". Interestingly though, the credits also imply that the AAA web site is to be found at www.feedback.com, so = maybe JC is using Black Dogs computer infrastructure (they were into web = sites and the internet, years before it became hip and happening) to further his side projects. Who knows? Apologies if this is old hat. Mark This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.. 'Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:27:22 EST From: "j. gura" Subject: (klf) dirtchamber sessions (excuse me if this has been mentioned previously) KLF sighting: got a copy of the "prodigy present : the dirtchamber sessions : volume one" with WTIL in the mix - -the whole cd is pretty great - -- lentil@electrofy.com http://www.electrofy.com http://www.liquidskydomain.com - -- Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:37:35 +0000 (GMT) From: jon thaan mmm Subject: Re: (klf) manual On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: > > if anyone is interested there are copies of the Manual on sale at Witworth art gallery in > Manchester. > I live next door to the gallery. Anyone visiting the gallery for a copy of the manual, feel free to mail me, if I'm not too busy I'll offer you a cup of tea, a listen to some KLF and a discussion about the manual (along the lines of "But they already had the industry contacts and knew how to mix a track themselves before the Timelords single, why do they keep telling you to let the engineer do it all? Does it mean they didn't do the mixing on 1987?") jtm "Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment: Cleverness is mere opinion, bewilderment is intuition." - Jalal-uddin Rumi The Children's Ontology Workshop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:46:32 +0000 (GMT) From: jon thaan mmm Subject: (klf) (KLF) confused about Cauty mixes Howdy all, Can someone definitely confirm that the Scourge track on the Black Dog "Babylon" promo was named wrong? I've got the promo (with the so-called "my pastie weighs a ton"), so I need to get the SAME track name on the proper release to get the other mix, right? Does anyone know if the mix that's NOT on the promo is out on 12" or only on CD? and has ANYONE seen the Marilyn Manson 12", which I believe is the only format with the Scourge Mix? Metallers won't buy vinyl, so no shops will stock it :-( jtm This week, my sig are mostly been Sigue Sigue Sputnik The Children's Ontology Workshop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:58:22 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) (KLF) confused about Cauty mixes CD Now has the M. Manson Cauty remix on CD "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: jon thaan mmm [SMTP:cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:47 AM > To: KLF list > Subject: (klf) (KLF) confused about Cauty mixes > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:54:58 PST From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: (klf) Fwd: The Black Dog >From: "The Black Dog" >Reply-To: "The Black Dog" >To: "Internet" >Subject: The Black Dog "BABYLON" (out now) >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:13:58 -0000 > >Hey folks, > >Just a quickie e-mail to let you know that our >long awaited collaboration with OFRA HAZA has >finally been released in the U.K. (street >date 22nd March 1999) on Warner Records. > >It's released on 2 x CD (CD 1 in a special >Digipak) and 12"; featuring the original version >and radical interpretations by JIMMY "KLF" CAUTY, >TERMINALHEAD, PETER LAZONBY, SCANNER, FUTURE >LOOP FOUNDATION, and THE BLACK DOG. > >More info on THE BLACK DOG website (few review >quotes below), which now features a FREE >BLACK DOG Screensaver :) (sorry, PC only). > >International release info n/a at the moment, >but it should be easily obtainable on IMPORT >for those that can't wait... > >The Black Dog featuring Ofra Haza >"BABYLON" > >CD1: WESP006CD1 / Label: WARNER.ESP >CD2: WESP006CD2 / Label: WARNER.ESP >12": WESP006T/ Label: WARNER.ESP > >In the U.K. shops are currently selling new >singles at 1.99 for the first few days, so >pick up a copy asap if you wanna save a few >pennies :) > >Cheers, >DOGSQUAD > >| + . /\___/\ . * | < The Black Dog > | + * . . >|. * (. .) + | | . * . * >| ___ooO__\-/__Ooo___ | | + + + >| /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ | Dogma >> | http://www.feedback.com/tbd/ >| * 3-5-3 * |(Dis)information > | tbd@feedback.com > >RE:VIEW(S): > >"a brilliant tapestry of beats by the ever enigmatic Black Dog... >you're transported to the edge of the River Euphrates, riding a >camel, taking tokes from a hookah pipe and journeying towards the >sunset. Evocative and exotic in equal parts." (NME) > >"Babylon is as frighteningly pioneering as the mystical civilisation >that inspired it. The Black Dog continues to confuse and entertain >in equal measures." (DJ MAGAZINE) > >"The soundworld is exotic and attractive: state-of-the-art beats >and technology meet the perfumed timbres of the Middle East." (Q). > >"Tight production, swirling aural soundscapes and exotic and >intoxicating Eastern melodies and rhythms from the elusive >Black Dog ensure that Babylon pushes the envelope just the right >side of leftfield. Open your ears, skin up and relax." (CLUB ON) > >"A bizarre, yet beautiful track." (MIXMAG) > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:02:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Sinclair Subject: (klf) Black dog hi all i would just like to say that only Jimmy has contact really with the black dog. Jeir from the black dog also owns a company called feedback (http://www.feedback.com) which manages Jimmy. i know this because recently i have been talking to Jeir so i suppose that means the black dog have indeed got something to do with jimmy. you can hear a real audio showreel when you go to the feedback site and demo showreels are also availiable although not to the public like me. i hope this helps not bad for a 12 year old (me) eh? also i think that the placebo remix was good although i am a fan of the band. i just heard the blackdog babylon mixes by jimmy-they are brilliant if you get the cd's before and including wednesday they should be cheaper- jeir told me!!! email fredsinclair@yahoo.com Mark Sinclair _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:05:50 PST From: "Nick Gilmour" Subject: (klf) AAA thwarted? From New Scientist, 20 March 1999 NOT A SOUND IDEA Nonlethal acoustic weapons seem to be doomed ATTEMPTS to build weapons that incapacitate people by harnessing the power of very low-frequency sound waves are destined to fail, says a German physicist. Some weapons developers have claimed that infrasound, frequencies too low to hear, can cause debilitating effects such as nausea and diarrhoea. But Jurgen Altmann of Ruhr-University Bochum has studied the scientific literature and is convinced that the weapons will never work. He presented his findings this week to a joint meeting of European and American acoustical societies in Berlin. “All these effects of infrasound do not really exist,” he says. William Arkin, a writer and consultant based in South Pomfret, Vermont, has obtained documents describing infrasound research that came from the Pentagon under the Freedom of Information Act. The papers claim high-power infrasound could leave troops “incapacitated by nausea”. Police also believe infrasound weapons would have advantages over chemicals such as tear gas. “It is environmentally benign, can be switched on and off, and can be controlled much better,” says Sid Heal of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s department. The idea that low-frequency vibrations make you ill may have started because some people feel queasy during earthquakes. Nikola Tesla, the inventor of transformers and generators, reportedly duplicated the effect with a vibrating chair almost a century ago. But those observations were based on mechanical vibrations in solids, which couple energy to the human body much more efficiently than sound waves can transfer energy from the air. Altmann says that experiments in which people or animals have been subjected to airborne infrasound suggest the weapons won’t work. “I found no hard evidence for vomiting or uncontrolled defecation, even at levels of 170 decibels or more,” Altmann says. And while air transmits infrasound very well, he points out that the wavelengths are so long—17 metres or more—that it spreads out too rapidly to form a controllable beam. Altmann blames rumour and misunderstanding for the stories surrounding infrasound. “You can’t hear it, so you’re inclined to believe what people say about it,” he says. Heal, who works with the US Army on its infrasound weapons programme, admits that the research has been refocused. As well as attempting to create prototype weapons, researchers are trying to develop a better understanding of how infrasound might affect the human body, he says. Jeff Hecht - ----------------------------------------------- NIk Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:11:01 +0100 From: Erik Johansson Subject: Re: (klf) Definite article? Here's my two cents: "The KLF" when you talk, and "KLF" when you write. This issue was discussed in the Ramones newsgroup a few years back, and that's what we came up with. / Erik, Sweden Take me to the Church of the KLF Culf skrev: > > On the back of this, I'd lke to throw up a new discussion topic. One > > which is sure to promote heated debate in all quarters. > > > > Is it "KLF" or "The KLF" ?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:33:03 +0100 From: Mattias Frid Subject: Remix of M.Manson (was Re: (klf) Babylon 2) >On Mon 22 Mar, Nick Gilmour wrote: >> BTW has anyone had any luck chasing down that Marilyn Manson "I Don't=20 >> like drugs..." Cauty mix? Can't find it anywhere... And Stuart Bruce replied: >Not yet. One of my friends (vague friends) is a _big_ Marilyn Manson >fan, and she doesn't know anything of a "I Don't Like Drugs..." Cauty >remix. But she's not the remix-fanatic kind, so that proves nothing. Once again I had a look at Hot Stuff's (Swedish record shop w. online shop as well) online catalogue (www.hotstuff.se) and found these: 30870 CDM MARILYN MANSON I DON'T LIKE THE DRUGS Part 2 3 versions+Screensaver 60:- (~=A34.60/$7.50) =20 30869 CDM MARILYN MANSON I DON'T LIKE THE DRUGS Part 1 3 versions 60:- They do international orders and also answer questions on . Unfortunately there's no info about the discs online. The Cauty-remix is probably on one of them though... They also have US releases of White Room+J&A, Doctorin' and Chill out. Cheers! //FRiD - ----------------------------------------------------- Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the =20 Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, =20 S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!"=20 SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.vxu.se =20 http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:07:17 -0000 From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) Fwd: The Black Dog Hey, download the screensaver and take a look at the top left......... I know the Black Dog are nothing to do with the KLF, but I'm really glad there seem to be so may common links between them. dan Conspiracy? >>More info on THE BLACK DOG website (few review >>quotes below), which now features a FREE >>BLACK DOG Screensaver :) (sorry, PC only). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:36:48 GMT+0 From: Ancient of Mu Mu Subject: Re: (klf) Definite article? > > "KLF is gonna rock you" > Was written by some rapper. The rapper was Ricardo Da Force (now works with N-Trance) > > "Take me to the church of the KLF" > Was written by The KLF. Their name is The KLF not KLF 'cos most of thier singles had Artist: The KLF printed on the label. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #195 *************************