From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #229 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Thursday, July 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 229 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:45:24 +1200 From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) BUILDING Alex Janzer wrote: > > http://www.xdollarx.com" eeeeek! suddenly it all makes (non)sense. this is probably the best start page for the un-initiated: http://www.xdollarx.com/e1/multname.html who is Furst Jaglen though? I hadn't heard of him/her before. and why no mention of Smile? "There have been multiple names for magazines ('Kathedral' originating in England in 1994) and pop groups." New Thread Alert! Which pop groups are actually multiple people releasing discs under the same name? The Black Dog??? And Michael K claims to have had 2 top 40 hits. What were they? Aaarrgh ... it's the four handmaidens of evil again. Stuey Y. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:33:17 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: Re: (klf) BUILDING what the hell? ive spent all morning reading this and still dont know whats going on. tripp alex discovered: >Got this.. message from "Proxy Messaging Service": > > > The Building is being demolished even while it is being built. > > > > http://xsx.future.easyspace.com > > > > http://www.xdollarx.com" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:04:30 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: Re: (klf) BUILDING >and why no mention of Smile? what is this? >New Thread Alert! Which pop groups are actually multiple people releasing >discs under the same name? The Black Dog??? > >And Michael K claims to have had 2 top 40 hits. What were they? what other names would the black dog be using? the klf had more than 2 top 40 hits, right? is the klf in no way involved with all this then? how much does this have to do with the bridge burning? is scourge of the earth micheal k? (did any of the singles hit top 40?) im trying to figure out how the klf and the bridge burning fit into this site. it sounds like drummond is the only tie between the 2 and that link is nonexistent now. in fact it sounds like it was his idea and then he has had nothing more to do with it. am i mistaken? my brain hurts. tripp _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:26 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) BUILDING This site mentions very little about the KLF itself, but it does tie in with their samplist process to creating music, books, personas, legend, etc. It does mention Bill Drummond creating generic superstar pseudonym "Michael K" to be used by anyone. This site even claims that the name "Bill Drummond" is a pseudonym, and isn't represented by one person as well, but then goes on to talk about the books he wrote with Mark Manning of Zodiac Mindwarp. Accept the contradictions I suppose. It also has extensive information taken from a magazine called Kathedral which has a fixed name but multiple origins much like Michael K. It's hard to tell what is fact and what is fiction, but I believe that's the point. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:02:30 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: RE: (klf) BUILDING i guess my biggest question was whether or not this involved the klf. is this a drummond/cauty project? or is it (as it seems to claim), inspired by them but wanting/having nothing to do with them? or is it something made up with their names only attached as a way of gaining attention (like that terrible klf (inspired) cd that was floating around around the turn of the year (2097 or whatever)...). that was my main question. plus i dont know most of the names mentioned on the pages and that doesnt help. if you know of anywhere that might name/define some of these people that would be cool... tripp >From: Don Gagen >To: 'tripp millican' , "'klf@xmission.com'" > >Subject: RE: (klf) BUILDING >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:54:26 -0500 > > > >This site mentions very little about the KLF itself, but it does tie in >with >their samplist process to creating music, books, personas, legend, etc. It >does mention Bill Drummond creating generic superstar pseudonym "Michael K" >to be used by anyone. This site even claims that the name "Bill Drummond" >is >a pseudonym, and isn't represented by one person as well, but then goes on >to talk about the books he wrote with Mark Manning of Zodiac Mindwarp. >Accept the contradictions I suppose. It also has extensive information >taken from a magazine called Kathedral which has a fixed name but multiple >origins much like Michael K. It's hard to tell what is fact and what is >fiction, but I believe that's the point. > >Don >"Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." >D. Banner > >DONALD D GAGEN >MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM >ENSEMBLE STUDIOS >http://www.ensemblestudios.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:54:19 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: (klf) grant morrison oh how could you? simply put, a genius. he has written such fine comics as the doom patrol, the invisibles, jla, batman:arkham asylum, animal man...the man is awesome. though to whomever is accusing him of being error-filled, please write me - im curious to see what you have to say about it all. run out, pick up all these books and read. and somehow, i missed the beginning of this thread - could someone send me the orginal message - im trying to figure out how grants name suddenly came up (something about stuart homme, correct)? thanks tripp >From: E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >Reply-To: E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >To: klf@xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Jimmy Cauty (fwd) >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:39:03 +0000 > >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:08:17 +1000 >From: Mute >To: e.hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Jimmy Cauty (fwd) > > > >E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: > > > > thanks to Stuart Brucefor posting the article from NME as I can't >connect to it from here for > > some reason. Stewart Homme is one of the people I'm writting my thesis >about. > > If you want to know, he wrote the intro for Grant Morrison's Lovely >Biscuits. I know, because I just got it this week. It's as provocative >but error-ridden as he usually is... > > > >>>>>>Thanks again, who is Grant Morrison? > >Erika xx _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:54:19 PDT From: "tripp millican" Subject: (klf) grant morrison oh how could you? simply put, a genius. he has written such fine comics as the doom patrol, the invisibles, jla, batman:arkham asylum, animal man...the man is awesome. though to whomever is accusing him of being error-filled, please write me - im curious to see what you have to say about it all. run out, pick up all these books and read. and somehow, i missed the beginning of this thread - could someone send me the orginal message - im trying to figure out how grants name suddenly came up (something about stuart homme, correct)? thanks tripp >From: E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >Reply-To: E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >To: klf@xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Jimmy Cauty (fwd) >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:39:03 +0000 > >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:08:17 +1000 >From: Mute >To: e.hatton@plymouth.ac.uk >Subject: Re: (klf) Re: Jimmy Cauty (fwd) > > > >E.Hatton@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: > > > > thanks to Stuart Brucefor posting the article from NME as I can't >connect to it from here for > > some reason. Stewart Homme is one of the people I'm writting my thesis >about. > > If you want to know, he wrote the intro for Grant Morrison's Lovely >Biscuits. I know, because I just got it this week. It's as provocative >but error-ridden as he usually is... > > > >>>>>>Thanks again, who is Grant Morrison? > >Erika xx _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:37:58 +1200 From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) BUILDING tripp millican wrote: > >and why no mention of Smile? > > what is this? Smile is the name of a magazine that is released by multiple people. Stewart Home and various other Neoists worldwide released various Smiles which contained various essays by different people pretending to be Karen Elliot and Monty Cautsin - two other multiple identity names. Smile's came out in the 80's so Kathedral (94 onwards) seems to be a copy of Smile. Anyone who wants can release an issue of Kathedral. Remember not to use your own name though, instead write essays pretending you are Jerry Cornelius, Micheal K, or Furst Jaglen. > >New Thread Alert! Which pop groups are actually multiple people releasing > >discs under the same name? The Black Dog??? > what other names would the black dog be using? No, the other way round, multiple different people would be releasing records using the same artist name. ie the Black Dog's 95 LP would be by a different person to the new single. The Black Dog suggestion was a provocative throwaway comment since someone suggested a few months that maybe the Black Dog was Jimmy, and then people responded with the Black Dog's biographical details to show it wasn't so. I wasn't seriously suggesting that the Black Dog is multiple people, instead I was seeking suggestions - what artist names might be used by multiple people to release discs? well I can suggest one of course. The JAMs. Drummond and Cauty released records under that name, and so did someone in Wales (on Fierce records). I always wondered what Bill and Jimmy really thought about that Big Fat 45 single. The official word as reported in NME was "no its not us - not the real JAMs" but secretly were they pleased? If they were really into the multiple identities thing wouldn't they have been more cagey and refused to comment? One other major point about the BUILDING site is that some of the text has been altered from the original source, by way of replacing names. i.e. the original piece might have had every instance of say, K Foundation, replaced by Michael K. Which makes it even more difficult to disinguish truth from reality. cheers, - -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey's groovy new website is now open: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:34:13 +0100 From: "Gary Chapman" Subject: (klf) just saying hi! Well, i've just found this mailbase.....and i guess im hoping there are a few others out there. I guess i am kind of looking for those hard to find jams/klf tracks - ive got a fair bit - well i am looking for as far as i know is the original version of All You Need Is Love (with the big beatles sample) and any of the unreleased things. I have just about everything else now i think. Anyways, hi there you lot! - -- Gary Chapman www.modelford.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:18:20 +0200 From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) just saying hi! > unreleased things. I have just about everything else now i think. Really? ;) Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:24:52 -0400 From: Dan Hutchins Subject: (klf) Something I'm selling on ebay Hi everybody, Here's info on a JAMs 12" I'm selling on e-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=129242709 Item #129242709, 12": 1987 UK JAMS 23T 4:56 All You Need Is Love (106 bpm) 3:39 Ivum Naya (ibo version) 4:46 Rap, Rhyme And Scratch Yourself James Anderton picture sleeve is in very very poor shape but the record is in near mint condition. Buyer pays shipping ($4.00 US, $5.00 international, insurance extra) Please remit payment in US funds by money order, cashier's check, or cash only (absolutely no personal checks). Please only bid if you intend to pay for this item, otherwise negative feedback will result. Please feel free to e-mail me with any questions. Good Luck! Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:40:23 -0400 From: "Reed Hedges" Subject: (klf) detritus.net www.detritus.net * excellent site with good links * 1987, John Oswald, Negativland MP3s rh ......................................... http://www.zerohour.net/reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:26:55 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) KLF vs Pet shop boys - have i found a lost remix? Howdy all, long story short - i got reminded about the so hard remix and went to find it as mp3 format (i do own the vinyl back home). i found it - and a different version too :) from the text files that were with the mp3s. - ------------ 1. Pet Shop Boys: So Hard (KLF Vs JMP Ultra hot razor) 5:16 Remixed for Ultra hot razor by John M Phillin and Steve Smith Taken from: CD 1992 US (Ultra hot razor; UHCD03) (Ultra hot razor Disc 3) - ------------ 2. Pet Shop Boys So Hard (klf vs. pet shop boys) 5:25 remodelled by The KLF from: CD5: 1990 DE (EMI; CDP 560-204092-2) [artwork uses UK cat # "12rx6269"] 5:27 So Hard (klf vs. pet shop boys) quality: ripped directly from original CD this track was only available in digital form on this CD, according to the discography (not including bootlegs) - -------------- now according to the master track list (http://quality.gconnect.com/cgi-bin/nicetxt?file=KLF/Info/tracks.txt&title= Master+List+of+Tracks&site=Mancentral*KLF) there's only 1? version? sohard.klfvs 5:27 So Hard (the klf vs pet shop boys) sohard.klfvs 5:27 So Hard (the klf vs the pet shop boys) so what did i find? from vague memory the Utlra cd's were bootlegs? from listening to it, the JMP track starts from what sounds like approx 17seconds into the KLFvsPSB track. its not noticeably different, but i'm listening to it at work and cant pay total attention to it. there may be little differences. best wishes brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:20:20 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Slightly OT: Chart position mailing lists This is a bit off topic, unless of course Bill or Jimmy ever get back into the UK charts (taking their time about it, aren't they?)... Does anybody know of a mailing list (or a Web site, but preferably a mailing list) which sends out either of the following on a weekly basis: (a) The UK Top 40 / Top 75. (b) A list of forthcoming UK single & album releases. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:58:47 -0400 From: Rich J Bide Subject: Re: (klf) Slightly OT: Chart position mailing lists Stuart - Don't know about the weekly Top 40, but for a weekly mailing of forthcoming UK singles and album releases, try Action Records at: http://www.action-records.co.uk/ and follow the link to "Join". You'll get a weekly list e-mailed to you. I've been checking this list every Monday morning for the past few months, and I found a chap in the UK (you know who you are :-) who's been nice enough to pick up singles I want and mail them to the US at quite a reasonable rate. CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:20:20 +0100 (BST) Stuart Bruce writes: >This is a bit off topic, unless of course Bill or Jimmy ever get back >into the UK charts (taking their time about it, aren't they?)... > >Does anybody know of a mailing list (or a Web site, but preferably a >mailing list) which sends out either of the following on a weekly >basis: > >(a) The UK Top 40 / Top 75. > >(b) A list of forthcoming UK single & album releases. > >Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > >Stuart. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremiah \"Spassvogel\" Rickert" Subject: (klf) nonKLF/cool edit pro Does anyone have a plugin for Cool Edit Pro 1.0 that adds supprot for RealAudio 4.0 or G2? They don't have them on their website anymore since they released Cool Edit 1.2. They also don't have an upgrade for 1.0 to 1.2, at least not that I could find. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. jr - ----------------------------------------- Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. - ----------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:28:25 EDT From: "j. gura" Subject: (klf) a find Hi everyone Just to share my fortune: My boyfriend runs a record store here in nyc for Liquid Sky aka Carlos Soul Slinger. They are closed for renovations and had found a safe downstairs with crates and crates of old vinyl Carlos put in there years ago. Needless to say, there were quite a few *finds* in there... including a copy of SPACE on vinyl, which he immediately handed over my way. I think it isn't a bootleg by the label and I wasn't aware there were bootlegs of it other than the CD... which I have. Is anyone aware of bootleg versions of SPACE on vinyl, and what would be the distinguishing marks? Jemma - --- lentil@electrofy.com http://www.electrofy.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:13:12 +0200 From: Trancentral.Dome.99@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?B?SmVucyBS9t9nZXI=?=) Subject: (klf)hawkwinds When is the Hawkwind CD "Silver Machine" in the trade? Jens # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #229 *************************