From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #300 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Sunday, March 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) sampling list omigod i remember seeing this list a loooooong time ago, like 2wo years ago. theres so many samples i can think of that arent there (or at least werent last time i checked) like Death In Vegas sampling Woodstock, Weird Al sampling the Simpsons, etc. did the JAMMS really sample the Beasties in the Top of the Pops thing? cool! bye! "That's the saltiest thing I ever ate! And I once ate a heaping bowl of salt!" Futurama PHIZZO ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:23:43 -0500 (EST) From: laerm Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track [i'm sure this has already been answered, but...] On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, DJ Kuta wrote: > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > characteristics: > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples sounds a lot like the orb's "a huge ever-growing pulsating brain that rules from the centre of the ultraworld", whichever version is on the first peel session. the guitar sample is pink floyd, btw ("shine on"). * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# icq 5562209 hush - may i ask you all for silence? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:18:01 +0100 From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) sampling list Haha, I'm brand spanking new here (hi Mute ;-) and already a question I can answer. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson [mailto:techno_gpig@yahoo.com] > > did the JAMMS really sample the Beasties in the Top of > the Pops thing? cool! > They certainly did sample the Beasties..... well, they sampled a bit of a TOTP broadcast that included the Beasties. You get the the introduction from, I think, Radio 1 DJ Steve Wright, and then the 'Kick it!' opening from "Fight for your right...." Other tracks that crop up include, Freddie Mercury - "The Great Pretender" and The Mission - "Severina". Plenty of other stuff too, but I don't remember it all off the top of my head. Isn't there an MP3 available via Mancentral? - -Andy - -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:33:27 -0000 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (klf) sampling list >They certainly did sample the Beasties..... well, they sampled a >bit of a TOTP broadcast that included the Beasties. You get the >the introduction from, I think, Radio 1 DJ Steve Wright, and then >the 'Kick it!' opening from "Fight for your right...." >Other tracks that crop up include, Freddie Mercury - "The Great >Pretender" and The Mission - "Severina". Not to mention the sound of a tube train approaching and thw 'mind the gap' warning. I always felt that this was Waterloo station, not sure why. Anyone know any better? Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does he have any stuff available elsewhere? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:54:36 +0100 From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) sampling list > From: Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] > Not to mention the sound of a tube train approaching and thw > 'mind the gap' warning. I always felt that this was Waterloo > station, not sure why. Anyone know any better? I thought it was one stop north, in other words Embankment. I don't remember there being a warning at Waterloo, at least not when I was a regular 15 years ago. I wouldn't bet a whole lot of money on it though. > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side > 2 of 1987, does he have any stuff available elsewhere? Sorry, don't know. - -Andy - -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:57:59 +0000 From: a9457399@wlv.ac.uk Subject: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since their demise? Wild guitar, Fantastic dance music, Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) And ABBA Samples! Truly the next best thing! If You Buy their Records Your Life Will Be Better; you will Feel It like a Hammer To The Heart! - ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 11:38:37 GMT From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) IGUN Hi! Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? Thanks, DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:48:30 +0100 From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] > > In case not, here's a question about one of the above > personages: how > > do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill > > sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular > > pronunciation. > > Easy I'd have thought, David Balfe where Balfe is pronounced "Balf". > > Nickname "Balfie" (like "Smithie" for John Smith, "Jonesey" > for Fred Jones, > etc.). Definitely "Balf". Balfey is just a nickname. Check the who's who (it's called 'Chunky Thighs' IIRC) in '45' and/or 'From The Shores Of Lake Placid' where Bill states 'only ever referred to as Balfey' or words to that effect. Copey would probably have called him lots of other (unpleasant) things though ;-) - -Andy - -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:28:53 +1300 From: hellboy@ihug.co.nz Subject: (klf) Tamperer Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since their demise? Wild guitar, Fantastic dance music, Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) And ABBA Samples! Truly the next best thing! If You Buy their Records Your Life Will Be Better; you will Feel It like a Hammer To The Heart! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHGGGG NO foul music yuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:59:07 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > their demise? Oh my Gawd!! GASP!! > Wild guitar, > Fantastic dance music, > Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) > And ABBA Samples! > > Truly the next best thing! They're hardly any different from all the other Europop twaddle, so how could they be "the first ever to come close"? Tamperer are yet another awful/average (delete according to taste) management-created bloodsucking creatively null bunch of models and stage school tossers. I have nothing particularly against the Tamperer but comparing them with the KLF?! Sheesh... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:59:13 +0000 From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) On the subject of things in the book being real, the directions to walk to 'The Village' from Dagenham Heathway tube are very incomplete, but accurate - I know because my mother-in-law lives about a minute's walk from there. - - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:04:17 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN > Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? Since when did information on this surface? There certainly isn't any mention of it in the Discog... - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:28:39 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN > > Does anyone happen to know the ORB remix of IGUN (KLF 014T)? What's on it? > > Since when did information on this surface? There certainly isn't any > mention of it in the Discog... There is - right at the end in the "Announced But Unreleased" section. I don't know anything more about it than that I'm afraid. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:35:14 -0000 From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list > Also, the Vietnamese singer who does the first track on side 2 of 1987, does > he have any stuff available elsewhere? > IIRC, he was a friend of Jimmy who did the clarinet playing on 1987, and when he was at trancentral one day Bill heard him singing and asked him to do a track on the album. (something like that anyway... It may say on mancentral somewhere... It even gave his name but I can't remember it) But I doubt he has anything else available because he wasn't a professional singer, and maybe not even a professional clarinet player.. Dunno... Also, there was some talk on the list recently about someone wanting to maintain the sample list again... What happened to that? - - Over and out - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:53:24 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Twilight Isotope wrote: > IIRC, he was a friend of Jimmy who did the clarinet playing on 1987, and > when he was at trancentral one day Bill heard him singing and asked him to > do a track on the album. (something like that anyway... It may say on > mancentral somewhere... It even gave his name but I can't remember it) > But I doubt he has anything else available because he wasn't a professional > singer, and maybe not even a professional clarinet player.. Dunno... 1987 The 45 Edits (Liner Notes): ... Kicks off with 'Me Ru Con' sung by Zuy Khiem, a Vietnamese friend of ours. If you are lucky enough to have the 7-inch version of it you'll have the English translation on the sleeve. We never planned to have this on the LP, he just sang this while the tapes were running when he was down in the studio doing the bits of tenor sax and clarinet that are on the other tracks. ... - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 19:33:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front On Fri 03 Mar, a9457399@wlv.ac.uk wrote: > > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > their demise? > > Wild guitar, > Fantastic dance music, > Sample philsosphy in their name (Kopyright Liberation / Tamperer) > And ABBA Samples! Everyone else seems to have disagreed with you, and while they aren't the _only_ group to be worth mentioning since the last proper KLF record, I do think you have a point- the Tamperer music that I've heard (the 3 singles) has all been good stadium house music. I don't believe they have the anarchistic outlook or the same sampling ethos as the KLF or bands like PWEI did, but what they do, they do well, and it's catchy and listenable in the same way that made tracks like "Justified And Ancient" or "Last Train To Trancentral" cross over into appealing to pop fans. There's a nice energy there. I haven't become devoted yet, bought the album or whatever, but I'd definitely give it a listen. They might not seem 'credible' to some KLF fans, but that's your own problem... :-) I thought the same about the Cuban Boys record- catchy and slick. Since the KLF, I'd also mention: On the nearly-credible side: Apollo 440 (esp. first album), Chemical Brothers (second album non-single tracks), Lionrock, some Fluke. On the 'most people just laugh' side: Sash! (some singles), earlier U96 (second/third album), N-Trance (first album only). With artists such as U96 or Sash!, just because they've released one or two less impressive 'novelty'/commercial records, doesn't mean that all of their musical output should be written off. By that token people would have never given the KLF a second chance after "Doctorin' The Tardis"... Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:57:06 -0800 (PST) From: Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson Subject: (klf) tampara well being in america the only Tamperer thing ive heard was that damn "chimney" song and yeah, i think its total crap. the thing is, a lot of the KLf stuff does kinda sound cheezy and generic, its just if you know the story behind it, and you listen closer, its reaaaalllly funny. like "I Gotta CD" (the 7" edit on LSOM2 i'm using as a reference point here) the first time i heard it i thought "my god, this is dumb" but the next time i realized "this is so over-the-top silly that its impossible to not like this!" come on, "It's good to go in our UFO"? crazy. i still laugh (or at least smile) every time i listen to it ;) and i dont even know the story behind it (if there is one) anyway, i still thank Tamperer sux. then again, thats still only off of one song, thats all anyone in America has heard by them (for the most part) so who knows. anyway, i'm gone now. bye! PAUL (i'm dropping my silly pseudonym after this email ;) ===== Even MTV BIGWIGS have heart attacks!!!!! SEND EMAIL TO MTV TELLING THEM TO PUT SIFL AND OLLY BACK ON! ITS THE BEST SHOW ON TELEVISION AND MTV ISNT SHOWING IT! feedback@mtv.com Hotel Detective PHIZZO JOBSON from The Ministry of 'Ousinje (aka >>>>>PAUL<<<<<) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:12:06 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN ...from the Orb discography. I don't think it's listed in the KLF one, but it's been a while since that's been updated. Alex Paterson - remixes, collaborations, production work [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] 8:38 It's Grim Up North [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:32:04 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN > [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] > 8:38 It's Grim Up North > [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] The one on URT? Nahhh, sounds like a different recording with someone else doing the vocals than a *remix* of the single... There's not much really different about it... IMO. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:02:47 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) tampara On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Hotel Detective Phizzo Jobson wrote: > anyway, i still thank Tamperer sux. then again, thats > still only off of one song, thats all anyone in > America has heard by them (for the most part) so who > knows. Tamperer (featuring Maya) had two big hits in last (or maybe one year before), one (Feel It) was remake of early Michael Jackson (or Jackson 5) and second (If You Buy... ) was remake of Madonna's song. Sound of both remakes was moved to europop (you can read is as 'crap' *grin*) and both was just for dancing... nothing more... BTW Am I right, if I see small hard guitar relation with Eskimos & Egypt (techno)? - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 00:57:05 GMT From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN > > [The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > > [on The JAMS: It's Grim Up North] > > 12": 1990 UK (KLF Communications JAMS 28T) [promo x350; grey] > > 8:38 It's Grim Up North > > [This is reported, but not confirmed, to be the LX remix] > >The one on URT? Nahhh, sounds like a different recording with someone else >doing the vocals than a *remix* of the single... There's not much really >different about it... IMO. You're possibly right. I didn't mean the 028T but the 014T... DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:07:11 -0500 From: Reed Hedges Subject: (klf) Re: waterloo > > Waterloo station eh? abba connection? ah, nevermind... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:37:51 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN They call it something like the "for love not money remix" on URT. I'm not sure where the hell they came up with that. Vocals are by Pete Wylie of Wah. I don't think this sounds like an Orb remix either - -----Original Message----- From: TheMgnt@aol.com [mailto:TheMgnt@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 4:32 PM To: klf@xmission.com Subject: Re: (klf) IGUN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 21:29:01 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front From: Stuart Bruce > Everyone else seems to have disagreed with you, and while they aren't > the _only_ group to be worth mentioning since the last proper KLF > record, I do think you have a point- the Tamperer music that I've heard > (the 3 singles) has all been good stadium house music. I don't believe > they have the anarchistic outlook or the same sampling ethos as the KLF > or bands like PWEI did, but what they do, they do well, and it's catchy > and listenable in the same way that made tracks like "Justified And > Ancient" or "Last Train To Trancentral" cross over into appealing to pop > fans. There's a nice energy there. I haven't become devoted yet, bought > the album or whatever, but I'd definitely give it a listen. They might > not seem 'credible' to some KLF fans, but that's your own problem... :-) Even putting aside the other very important facets of the KLF and just analyzing the music, to me they are not comparable. I'm probably not clever enough to exactly put my finger on the reasons, but I think one is the total lack of psychedelic qualities. Pretty much everything Bill & Jimmy ever released as the KLF was slightly trippy, and had an identifiable kinship with rave and acid house. It wasn't _just_ pop, it was music with its foot in the underground, sampled, looped and f*cked for a pop audience. All I see with the Tamperer is cynical chartbound music, there's none of the punk spirit, no air of rebelliousness, and nothing mind-expanding or psychedelic about it all. > I thought the same about the Cuban Boys record- catchy and slick. Since > the KLF, I'd also mention: The Cuban Boys would be closer, on a purely musical level. Still some catching up to do with the KLF's extra-curriculur activities, of course :) > On the nearly-credible side: Apollo 440 (esp. first album), Chemical > Brothers (second album non-single tracks), Lionrock, some Fluke. I've been told off in the past for making this comparison, but I think Altern-8 were *comparable* if far less important. And one of your fave bands Stuart, the Utahs, deserve a mention. Plus of course The Shamen, who, for me, were the nearest thing to the KLF (probably more credible on the dance scene but less successful than the KLF)... > On the 'most people just laugh' side: Sash! (some singles), earlier U96 > (second/third album), N-Trance (first album only). > > With artists such as U96 or Sash!, just because they've released one or > two less impressive 'novelty'/commercial records, doesn't mean that all > of their musical output should be written off. By that token people > would have never given the KLF a second chance after "Doctorin' The > Tardis"... I have to agree that if a band came along with something like Doctorin' now I'd maybe not appreciate it as much as The Timelords, possibly would even write it off. But the Timelords were amongst the first to release a record like that (not the very first, IIRC) - PLUS there was a very identifiable sense of humour there. Most of the chart Europop acts are _deadly serious_ about what they do - they think they're artists for God's sake! :) [I don't dislike all modern pop dance music by the way, I just think they are mostly rather pale imititaions *in comparison with the KLF*] Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 21:48:21 PST From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front >I've been told off in the past for making this comparison, but Ithink >Altern-8 were *comparable* if far less important. And one ofyour >fave >bands >Stuart, the Utahs, deserve a mention. Plus of course The Shamen,who, >for >me, were the nearest thing to the KLF (probably more credible on the >dance >scene but less successful than the KLF)... I remember back in '92 or so seeing a picture of Altern8 with masks on (this was about the time they remixed Music For Boys by Pet Shop Boys) and I was wondering if they were in fact the KLF in disguise. They didn't really sound like KLF but had that prankster air for sure. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 22:20:42 +1300 From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > write it off. But the Timelords were amongst the first to release a record > like that (not the very first, IIRC) - PLUS there was a very identifiable > sense of humour there. The video for Doctorin' was hilarious. They were definately taking the piss. Bizarrely, I remember that John Peel played Doctorin' before it was first released. John Peel!!!! Now he wouldn't have played it if there wasn't some merit in it eh? cheers - -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 12:52:44 GMT From: "Kade Angus" Subject: RE: (klf) IGUN I don't know where this "for love nor money" title's from, either. Can't be the original title - too ridiculous for a KLF track! Apart from that most of the mixes on URT have the funniest names, don't they? Pretty creative bootleggers! :) So does anyone have the KLF 014T now??? I have heard one person owns it... can anyone confirm this?? Kade >They call it something like the "for love not money remix" on URT. I'm not >sure where the hell they came up with that. Vocals are by Pete Wylie of >Wah. I don't think this sounds like an Orb remix either ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:08:58 +0100 From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Charts http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1990.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1991.html http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Diner/1991/uk1992.html http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/music/1992.html http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/music/1993.html - -- Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 15:48:12 -0000 From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front > > Does anyone else think that The Tamperer featuring Maya are the > > only group ever to come close to The KLF's type of music since > > their demise? > > Oh my Gawd!! GASP!! > I have nothing particularly against the Tamperer but comparing them with the > KLF?! Sheesh... who's the tamperer? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:13:22 -0000 From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) sampling list > 1987 The 45 Edits (Liner Notes): > Kicks off with 'Me Ru Con' sung by Zuy Khiem, a Vietnamese friend of > ours. If you are lucky enough to have the 7-inch version of it you'll that guy is on a sleeve sticker of KLF 004T that i have, says something like "Zuy Khiem & Scott Piering Appearing ", but did he play on WTIL pure trance? hmm, i better give the track a listen again.. Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) 02_LoveTimeKiss Here we go again. http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/02_LoveTimeKiss.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:07:34 +0100 From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) sorry... apologies everybody... the links to videos at http://rezist.com/djd now work properly. slightly embarrassed Dj Dominion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: 4 Mar 2000 19:24:05 -0000 From: klf@my24.com Subject: Samples List... :-| (Was (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people]) On Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:00:10 +0000 Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com wrote: > >Thanks for that, he said briefly delurking. I think this has got to be one of >the great transcription errors of all time:- >"I Get This Feeling", Jackie Wilson.' > >Fits with the ABBA theme, though. :-| I submitted that thing years ago, and I hope the lousy transcription won't follow me for the rest of my life... :-) Regards, Asbjorn - -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://NamePlanet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock What do you think about them? http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/01_BatonRougeRock.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/02_LoveTimeKiss.mp3 http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:05:21 PST From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) 01_BatonRougeRock I haven't been able to get any of these Tripod links that have shown up on the list in the last few days. when I click on the link it just reloads the tripod page. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 17:58:27 -0800 From: "Peter Robinson" Subject: (klf) Hello. I have been off this list for a while. And now I'm back. I have one question, which I am sure someone will be able to answer. And the question is: Is there a decent-quality bootleg of the 1989 White Room available? My own copy - the original studio tape which Bill gave me, and from which I think most of the bootlegs came - is sounding a bit ropey. Actually I have two questions. The second one is: Is it still possible to get videos of the White Room movie footage? I seem to remember them being available at some point in the past. Thank you and goodbye! Peter xxx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:12:31 PST From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) make it rain played Hello everybody, was visiting a pub/club in the countryside yesterday and asked the DJ to play something by the KLF and he said yes and took out the white room cd from his case and the he played the white room verion of make it rain! I donīt know if it was a mistake or not, I didnīt think heīd play make it rain! Maybe he also played the WR version of LTTT straight after MIR, canīt remember really, was kinda drunk. . David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:42:37 PST From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in Sweden Hello everybody, I saw this mail and I donīt agree so I thought Iīll tell you what I think its like. Perhaps me and Henrik live in in very different areas in Sweden, because.. . >In Sweden klf is quite well known also for there hit doktorin the tardis.> Doctorinī The Tardis wasnīt even a hit in Sweden, some DJs around their 30īs remember DTT, but I havenīt met anyone except DJs that have heard of it. DTT didnīt make it to the charts either. But they had big hits with for ex: LTTT, J & A, 3 a.m. and A:WTIL All the above are well known and still played sometimes on swedish dancefloors and did well in the swedish charts. I remember in february 1992 J&A was at no.8 and A:WTIL was no. 9 at Trackslistan at the same week. Earlier J&A was number one in Sweden. >There was also a radio program named popkorn special that >explaind > >aboute>everything aboute klf. Yes and that was a really good program too, broadcasted in the spring of 1992. There was also another radioshow about KLF which I havenīt heard or know the name of. I 1997 the swedish tvchannel ZTV broadcasted the show from the Barbican theatre, as the only tvstation who did that ( please correct me if there were more countries than Sweden in which the show was shown on tv). >Also the are quite well known after the incident with ABBA :-) No-one that Iīve met have heard of that incident, but they think its a nice story when I tell them. >i got the program on tape if there is anyone that want it i can make mp3 >of>it. The program is in swedish, but its a really good program, one hour long. On the whole KLF is still wellknown in Sweden. For example, all my girlfriends through the years have heard of the KLF even though most of my girls werenīt too interested in music. I now work extra in a cdstore and I have worked in another cdstore earlier too so I think I have a good look on how wellknown the KLF are. The biggest cdstores in Sweden still have the TWR+J&A cd and the chill out cd in stock. this is what I have experienced - David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #300 *************************