From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #304 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Wednesday, March 15 2000 Volume 02 : Number 304 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:17:13 +0100 From: Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (klf) Re: Small label success > Shilo & Michele Maggi wrote: > > > > > That's why I singled out these two, Nothing have Marylin > Manson (hey - > > > nearly back on topic!), and Merciful Release have had a > few acts for Mr > > > Eldritch to mess with too. > > Have there been any other bands on Merciful Release *after* it was affiliated with WEA? In the early (greatest) days of the Sisters MR was a proper DIY indie label, and then they released records by, at least, The Danse Society and The March Violets. Both of these left to form their own labels, Society and Rebirth respectively..... both of which were snapped up by majors (Arista and Mercury(?)) before the bands fell apart with the demise of goth. Sniff! Sniff! The great sound of northern goth... not forgetting Rose of Avalanche. Wow! - -Andy - -- Andrew Walker Kvaerner Oil & Gas a.s. Andrew.Walker@kvaerner.com P.O. Box 222, andy@lysaker.kvaerner.no N-1324 Lysaker, Norway ..... Will you speak out? ..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:06:46 -0000 From: "PHILIP WARD" <97146999@luton.ac.uk> Subject: (klf) klf stuff for sale/trade I have reluctantly decided to part with the following vinyl items from my collection. I anyone on the list would like to have any (or all!) of these just make me an offer and i'll get back to you. Further info on each is available if needed. Cheers, Phil. KLF- WTIL (pure trance 1) 12" KLF004T KLF-3AM (pure trance 2) 12" KLF005T KLF-J & A 12" KLF 99X KLF-WTIL (live@trancental) 12" KLF004X KLF-America: WTIL 7" KLFUSA4 KLF-WTIL 7" KLF 004 KLF-LTTT (live from lost cont) 7" KLF 008 KLF-J &A 7" KLF99 KLF- 3AM 7" JAMMS- ITS GRIM UP NORTH 12" JAMS028R JAMMS- Shag times 2x12" JAMS DLP3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:17:50 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) This is what the KLF are about Video Hello all, ive been swamped with people asking me for copies or ways to obtain the above video. As to avoid any unhappy people, can everyone interested in this send me a mail with 'i want # copy(ies) of the This is what the KLF are about Video' os i can make all the copies at the same time. Thanx Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:22:23 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price, shipping details Me again, Price of copies will be : - - $2 for the cost of the tape - - $3 for renting the equipment - - $2 for the time its going to take me to make them So a total of $7 per copy. - - $3 for shipping in Europe, $5 for the rest of the world Since this video is PAL, i can only do PAL. Sorry for all you NTSC lovers. I will let each person know when their video has been made, and when its been shipped. My address is : Xavier Ehret 28 avenue de la resistance 92370 Chaville France Cheers Xav hope this is ok for most of you Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:40:02 -0800 From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping details > Since this video is PAL, i can only do PAL. Sorry for all you NTSC lovers. *sigh* HAS anyone ever made an NTSC copy of this video? - -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:49:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping details On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Shilo and Michele Maggi wrote: > HAS anyone ever made an NTSC copy of this video? > The price for conversion is a lot lower these days than it used to be, so buying the PAL video for $7 and paying about $20 or so to convert it isn't that bad a deal. Still cheaper than the thing went on Ebay. Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and make VCD's out of it. jr - ----------------------------------------- Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. - ----------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:59:00 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video : price,shipping details On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and make VCD's > out of it. ... or put it on web/FTP to free download =) (If is it possible, I can provide a space...) - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:48:39 GMT From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) KLF vids Hi! Does anyone know where I could download high-quality mpeg KLF videos? Thanks, Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:58:09 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) New Space reissue - update This bounced back. Not sure why... > Got this today from AB-CD.com > > I'll let everyone know if it's legit or a boot when it arrives... > > -paul > > > The Klf and The Orb - Space CD... > > has finally arived... > [...] > > After canceling numerous orders due to > > the delay of this release we thought it was a good idea to e-mail > > everyone concerned # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 03:22:26 +0100 From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) "This is what.." and "Space"-re-press I post that to the list since I guess Xav hasn't the time to answer that personally (making copies will take some time..) :) "This is what the KLF are about" is not that thing which is on the "Stadium House"-Video (long version), isn't it? What is it then? How long? and so on.. Thanks! Simon btw.. someone told me that there _will be_ a re-press of "Space" but these people who will do this first collect the orders so that they know how much they have to press.. they're not the only one doing that this way although it is rather boring to wait so long. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:19:47 +0100 From: Stage medewerker Subject: RE: (klf) The "This is what the KLF are about" video > Another possibility is of course to record it as an .mpg and > make VCD's > out of it. Don't know 'bout the rest but I would prefer VCD's. At least the quality remains the same on a VCD. PG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:32:21 +0000 From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) KLF Font I'm looking for a copy of Compacta Bold - can anyone help? Ta Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:52:53 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) KLF Video : MPEG ? Due to numerous demands, i CAN make MPEG-4 transfers of the video to put on 2 or three CDROMS. But i have to know how many people prefer this to the VHS format, and if enough people are for this, then i will forget about tape transfer, and start working on a MPEG4 transfer. This also elimiates the NTSC problem. I cannot unfortunately do both formats, as i have a life to live and a business to run :) Ill just go with the majority on this. Please let me know ASAP. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:28:41 -0500 From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: (klf) Here's an interesting one So I'm browing eBay and I come across this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person would have *all* of them. - -- Adam J Weitzman, NewsEdge Corp. http://www.newsedge.com - http://www.individual.com "Humor is the best way of dealing with complete and utter nonsense." - John Lydon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:34:25 -0600 From: "Walter T Klingensmith" Subject: (klf) KLF Video: MPEG? I would like the video xferred to MPEG format...instead of putting them on CD, could you make it possible for downloads...I think Adam H. said he had the space.. Think About It Walter T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:48:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Well my contact got back to me. Here's how the story goes, from the words of the owner of Echo Beach. He met Jimmy Cauty in Bristol one time (no doubt he was researching and doing deals with some dubheads for the other typical Echo Beach material), and they spoke about the Waiting video. Jimmy said that Mr Echo Beach (Nicolai) should do a video release, but he doesn't do videos -- Nicolai said he'd like to do just a CD release of the soundtrack. That's why it sounds as if it was mastered from the video - because it was. Jimmy spoke to Bill about it, but he wasn't interested in sanctioning the release on CD, so Jimmy said that Nicolai should just release it anyway, as he didn't mind it being 'out there'. So that's why it's "kindof" a bootleg. It isn't officially sanctioned by KLF Communications/Drummond, but Jimmy was happy for it to be issued (and it was almost entirely his work). None of this explains where the "Rites Of Mu" part came from... Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:04:40 +0000 From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Culf wrote: > Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. ..... and considering how many HMV on Oxford Street, London, had when I got mine I guess that most of those are kickng around Central London! Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:40:10 -0000 From: "Heiko" Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 > Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person > would have *all* of them. that's right , this guy is a fraud, i have a pair of labels myself and so do two other guys i know on the list, and i guess there are more list members out there who have some, so i hope the person getting the bid won't be paying too much. Heiko # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:35:14 +0100 From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) New Space reissue - update Sister ray www.sisterray.co.uk have the Space CD listed as well, for =A319.95 Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:39:02 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting For The Rites Of Mu - the story Thanks for the info Culf, that's fantastic. I guess we must now think of WFTROM as an "official bootleg" or a "grey import" or something :) > Culf wrote: > > Oh yeah, and apparently there are only 1500 of the original, not 3333. Craig wrote: > ..... and considering how many HMV on Oxford Street, London, had when I got > mine I guess that most of those are kickng around Central London! Seems a low number, doesn't it? Mind, I've only seen one copy in a shop - I got mine mail order from a Record Collector magazine ad, and saw one copy in HMV, Hong Kong! Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:11:55 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Here's an interesting one > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Adam J Weitzman > Sent: 14 March 2000 17:29 > To: KLF Mailing List > Subject: (klf) Here's an interesting one > > > > So I'm browing eBay and I come across this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=283091903 > > Is this person for real? It seems highly unlikely to me that one person > would have *all* of them. He doesnt. I have a pair, and i know of at least five other guys that have them too. Cheers XAv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:25:08 -0500 From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one Well, I emailed this person to say that (s)he isn't the only person on the planet with these labels. Let's see if (s)he does the right thing. - -- Adam J Weitzman, NewsEdge Corp. http://www.newsedge.com - http://www.individual.com "Humor is the best way of dealing with complete and utter nonsense." - John Lydon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:35:24 -0800 From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Here's an interesting one i dont think you can change your items description once its been bid on... - ----- > > Well, I emailed this person to say that (s)he isn't the only person on > the planet with these labels. Let's see if (s)he does the right thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:03:12 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Here's an interesting one > i dont think you can change your items description once its been bid on... I think you may be able to add to it, but can't actually remove or change anything that's already there. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:24:39 +0100 From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) "This Is What The KLF Are About" Someone can tell me something about "This Is What The KLF Are About"? Would be nice even I guess it was on the list before. cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:43:23 -0600 From: King Wilson Subject: Re: (klf) Mr Quahogs > > > mr quahogs wrote > > > If more collage got played on the radio (I'm thinking plunderphonics, > > > Negativland, and the Evolution Control Committee), I'd fix the radio in >my > > > car. > > > > please help me out here, sorry if i'm being dumb but are these the names >of > > artist/bands. i am well interested just by there names. can you shed some > > light please... > >I have been really into audio collage music lately, music that uses a lot of >(sometimes only) samples from other sources. > >For info on the above examples: > >plunderphonics: www.6q.com >negativland: www.negativland.com evolution control committee: http://www.evolution-control.co A good place to look for things like this is Detritus.net They have links to many sample-friendly musicians. In particular, there's a link to the John Oswald/Plunderphonics archive (i don't remember it offhand) If you've never heard any of it before, you MUST check it out. He has a Doors track that will make your jaw hit the floor. I'm really suprised that I don't hear other bands mentioned more often on this list. It seems to be pretty exclusive to the club/techno crowd. Anyone here diggin the new Melvins album? How about that last Autechre ep? Phish's 7 hour New Year's set has been taking over my speakers, lately..... For the slightly subversive types, (and to plug myself) I'll say that I just put a very trance/bigbeat "remix" I made recently upon the Net. It's made entirely out of bits of Eddie Money's 'Baby Hold On To Me" and a 1970's Reelect President Johnson tv commercial. You can get it at emptmusics.freeservers.com read icculus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:38:15 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - I have yet to determine which format to make, so please dont send any money yet !! For now, its 4 people for the video and 8 for the MPEG format.... Ill leave it until the end of this week, and then make whatever has more votes. Pricing will of course be different for CDROMS. I will let the list know on Friday. I will also be making copies of The White Room Movie from a first generation tape, so the picture quality will be unparralleled to what has been circulating 'under the coat'. This will be also made in the same format as the 'this is what the KLF are about video'. For the people wanting a list of whats on it , here it is (taken from Lazlo's discog) : The KLF: This Is What The KLF Are About [1992] bootleg video compilation VHS: 1992 UK (Mike Dutton; N/A) 4:43 The KLF: America: What Time is Love (video) 3:43 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (stand by the jams) 3:59 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (radio edit) 7:22 The Rites of Mu (version 1) 12:52 The KLF: Stadium House Trilogy [including: 3:50 3 a.m. Eternal (live at the s.s.l. - radio) 3:37 Last Train To Trancentral (live from the lost continent) 4:03 What Time is Love? (live at trancentral-radio)] 2:20 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis 4:22 The KLF: Kylie Said to Jason [w/rare "Madrugada" mix] 1:57 The KLF: The White Room (promo clip) 3:53 The KLF: What Time is Love (version 1 - live at trancentral) 3:33 Disco 2000: Uptight (banana 2000) 3:37 Brilliant: Love is War 2:46 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 3:14 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 1) 3:09 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (top of the pops version 2) 3:04 The KLF: Last Train to Trancentral (top of the pops) 3:44 The KLF: Justified and Ancient (top of the pops) 3:16 The JAMS: It's Grim Up North (top of the pops) [Crowded House say "It's Grim Down South"] 3:51 Media Show Appearance 5:55 Rapido Appearance 5:25 The Word Appearance [Tammy only] 7:42 Reportage Appearance 5:58 Snub TV Appearance 42:15 Waiting 3:05 The Timelords: Doctorin' the Tardis (top of the pops) 2:55 KLF vs ENT: 3 a.m. Eternal (the brits 92) 5:38 The KLF: What Time is Love (trance mix) 3:28 The KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (version 1 - live at the s.s.l.) 7:15 The Rites of Mu (version 2, mtv) 2:13 The KLF: What Time is Love (top of the pops version 2) 173:00 Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:55:02 +0100 From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > For now, its 4 people for the video and 8 for the MPEG format.... IMHO, I prefer the video..I've already got Lars' mpeg-collection, and would rather have the videos on tape. Maybe it's just me, but there's something coll about watching it on your TV (for a change) instead of the monitor. - - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:54:17 -0000 From: Dan Abel Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Thomas Helvard [mailto:cyberdyne_inc@hotmail.com] wrote: > IMHO, I prefer the video..I've already got Lars' > mpeg-collection, and would > rather have the videos on tape. Maybe it's just me, but > there's something > coll about watching it on your TV (for a change) instead of > the monitor. wouldn't these video cds - if done correctly, paly on most dvd players? dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:07 +0100 From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Fw: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > Well, I don't have a DVD player and I would even be willing to pay Xavier a > little extra to make a VHS copy > > - Thomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Abel" > To: "'Thomas Helvard'" > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 1:53 PM > Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > > > > > > wouldn't these video cds - if done correctly, paly on most dvd players? > > > > dan > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:18:16 +0100 From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - I'd like to have it on video too! Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:18:22 -0000 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) font Compacta Bold PC or MAC? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:26:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: Re: Small lable success (was:Re: (klf) The Tamperer's liberation front) Interesting thread, but a fundamentally flawed one, mostly on the definition of "indie" that some people have been using. Indie doesn't (well, rather, it originally didn't) have anything to do with the size of the label, or the style of the bands on it. Indie labels were independent labels merely by virtue of the fact that they were distributed by an indepdent distributor. As I recall, there were the "big three" distributors (but I can't remember much about them now), and then a smattering of these so-called independents. "Indie shops" were those who tended to stock releases from those indie distributors, and had good contacts. In the case of PWL for example, they were distributed by Pinnacle (I think), and thus were eligible for inclusion on the typical "indie" chart. KLF Communications were distributed by The Cartel, which was a co-operating cartel of smaller distributors, led mainly by the biggest, London-based Rough Trade (remember "The Chain With No Name" - Cartel-friendly indie shops?). There were a few others too. I'm not sure the term "indie" was defined back in the days of the Beatles, but if they were distributed by EMI, then they wouldn't have been classified as "independent". In later days (starting in the late 80s), "indie" became a term used to describe a particular style of jangly/dreary guitar-driven music that was popular, it being inherited from the indie-distributed labels of the times that tended to release it. This usage term gradually took over in popular conception, but as soon as bands started being signed to major labels, as happened in a sudden flurry when they realised that there was money to be made from this "indie" thing and they wanted their slice, the whole "indie" thing became a fallacy. The "indie" distributors gradually gave up, The Cartel disbanded (became just Rough Trade), were sold or taken over by majors, and the labels that were associated with them went much the same way. As far as I know, On-U Sound is the only label that could have originally have been called "indie" (although it had none of the aforementioned jangly/dreary guitar stuff) from that mid-80s boom era that is still going (but only just, and dormant for several years now) that is still truly independent. Rough Trade died a death, Factory died, Creation sold out to Sony years ago (and are now dead) ... Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:28:08 -0800 (PST) From: Kochas Forever Entertainment Subject: (klf) Drummond & Cauty to visit Poland Everyone! No, that's a joke. I am Polish, and the thing is I'm looking for anyone who could help me with the KLF CDs. I mean CD-Rs. I'm interested in everything. I can make a real good deal with it. Waiting impatiently for any offers :-) Marcin (aka Kochas) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:17:41 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If the CDs are written as VCDs I believe, yes, they will play in DVD players as well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in the US and Europe, on the proviso that each recipient with a CDR writer copies at least once on a blanks and postage basis for another list member. That would also leave Xav time to copy for those who want VHS. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Stephen Kennedy wrote: The VCD's fix the PAL/NTSC problem. If the PAL people want videos, more power to them, but a VCD would be easier for me... jr - ----------------------------------------- Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. - ----------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:37:28 +0100 From: "Xav Ehret" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klf@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klf@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Kennedy > Sent: 15 March 2000 19:18 > To: KLF Mailing List > Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > > > > Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - > why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. If > the CDs are written as VCDs I believe, yes, they will play in DVD > players as > well as CDROM drives, and they can be copied for next to nothing. All Xav > would need to do is get a couple of copies out to list members in > the US and > Europe, on the proviso that each recipient with a CDR writer > copies at least > once on a blanks and postage basis for another list member. That > would also > leave Xav time to copy for those who want VHS. > > Steve Hey steve, i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible to play in your living room DVD player. The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is a *VERY* sloppy format. I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and which makes for very crisp images. BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:41:22 -0800 From: Shilo and Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - I agree. And i'm even down for the copying tree thing. - -s- > The VCD's fix the PAL/NTSC problem. If the PAL people want videos, > more power to them, but a VCD would be easier for me... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 19:52:33 -0000 From: "Ian" Subject: Re: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > Hey steve, > > i got to say thats a good idea. But it wont be a VCD. It wont be compatible > to play in your living room DVD player. > > The reason for this is that VCDs are MPEG-2 (or 1, cant remember), which is > a *VERY* sloppy format. > > I plan to make these in MPEG-4, which is what is used for Quicktime, and > which makes for very crisp images. > > BTW, its now 14 for MPEG and 7 for Video. Coming into this quite late I have some initial questions: 1. What is the material being discussed? 2. Is it legal/out of copyright? Ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:12:30 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Please dont send any Money YET !! - > Again I suggest this, and again it will likely fall on deaf ears :) but - > why don't we kick out the issue of money, and get a copying tree going. I'm happy to play! I've never tried making video CDs on my kit, but I know the software I've got is supposed to cater for it. You might get better quality though going for standard MPEG files with a low compression ratio. By the way - to Xav - if a good copy of "The White Room" is to be included, then I'll got for it whatever format you do it on. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:05:41 PST From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) London this weekend Hello everybody! I`ll be in London for shopping and more on saturday-sunday-monday and I wonder If anyone on the list lives in or near London and would like to bring me on a night out? If someone would like to meet up to get a pint or five or go to club or a face to face chat about KLF or whatever, please contact me. Or maybe someone could tell me if there will be any great concerts or clubs to go to... . I´ve been alot in London but the last time I was there was back in 1996.. so I guess alot have happened in the club world of London since then. . . Whats the age limit at clubs and is there any special way to dress to get in? Also where would it be most likely to run into Bill or Jimmy? ;) Any special shops for KLF? I´ve been in the shops on Berwick street and Notting Hill gate, but I guess there are many more shops to have a look in? Is the new Drummond book "45" easy to find in the book shops? Any info will be appreciated, thanks - David ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #304 *************************