From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #347 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Sunday, July 16 2000 Volume 02 : Number 347 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:02:13 +0200 From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) rites of mu At 20:02 12.07.00 +0200, you wrote: >actually there are 3. >Two versions with Scott Piering and one longer version with Martin Sheen >voice - which I would kill for if anybody has it on video :) the guy from Echo Beach records in Hamburg apparently has it. Unless of course he was only given an audio recording. But there would be far better things to kill for. The mix of Go To Sleep that was used in the White Room Movie for example (instrumental or 12" or dub or whatever, it was only a short bit). Or that unreleased demo of God Save The Queen... no, just kidding, that never recorded that. Would have been crap the way they planned it anyway. Where did I get that from? Bad Wisdom? :-) erik - ----------------------------------------------- /Erik's Organized Web Chaos/ www.eriksworld.cx www.klf.cx www.hiddensen.cx mail@eriksworld.de - ----------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:41:26 PDT From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used >i'm dead curious, what equipment was used during the days when klf would >create all their music > >someone said a lot of it was done using a cheap sampler and an atari st >computer :-) Well the Roland 808 or 909 are proabably used on almost every KLF tune ever. The 303 bassline synth has been used several times as well (IGUN comes to mind). I believe there was use of Oberheim (sp?) Expander type keyboards/rackmounts too. As for the Atari ST, it's listed in the White Room liner notes, but then that list is kind of incomplete so take it for what it's worth. However an Atari ST woud have been more than enough to control a sampler or whatever MIDI devices they were using. The cool thing about old as hell computers is that they virtually never crash. You could actually trust an old Amiga on stage to pretty much never let you down, unlike todays piece of shit Wintell boxes which seem to crash whenever they fell like it. What I have always wondered is what is the exact synth used on WTIL Pure Trance version, and does anyone know the actual notes used? I almost have it, but not quite. Chad ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:12:02 GMT From: "Doctor Mu" Subject: (klf) Brief Intro Just a quick HI to all you fellow KLF-heads out there. I have been into the Jams/KLF since about 1989. I have quite an extensive collection of JAMS/KLF/DISCO2000/TIMELORDS/2K etc on all formats. My dwelling is Leeds, UK and am still (2 years on) mourning the loss of a fantastic record shop called Vinyl Addiction where I used to buy my gear from. Especially as they had some capes from the Stadium House trilogy that I was saving up for. Damn! Anyway, See ya! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:20:42 +0000 From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used Chad Gombosi wrote: > Well the Roland 808 or 909 are proabably used on almost every KLF tune ever. The TR-808 was certainly on all the early stuff, but there isn't much 909 on any of it. 1987 was pretty much just a TR-808 and A Greengate DS3 sampler (apple II based... not Mac II, Apple II!) The best way to find out what they used after 1987, would be to get a kit list for the Village studio in Dagenham! > The 303 bassline synth has been used several times as well (IGUN comes to > mind). Actually, there is no TB-303 on IGUN at all. There is some on the stadium house era version of WTIL, but that's about it. The 303 and 909 are often assumed to make many noises they can't do. Trust me on this, I have both at home! > I believe there was use of Oberheim (sp?) Expander type > keyboards/rackmounts too. The legendary Expander (one of the most powerful non-modular analogue synths ever) might be out of their league, I think they used the cheaper OB/martix ranges of synths. The dalek voice on Doctorin' is done with a ring modulator - as it's so close the BBC dalek, I gues they are using the same machine, an EMS VCS-3 When the money came in, they also (like almost everyone at that time) used Akai samplers (thus was mentioned in the context of getting Tammy into sync via timestretch). > ...What I have always wondered is what is the exact synth used on WTIL Pure > Trance version... It's an Oberheim OB8A keyboard, I believe. - - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:27:34 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used Andrew Robinson wrote: > The TR-808 was certainly on all the early stuff, but there isn't much > 909 on any of it. what about "Live At Trancentral" mix of WTIL? I believe there's lots of 909 on that one. - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:59:07 -0500 From: "rmstringer" Subject: (klf) Equipment used WTIL had a TB 303 on it and 3an Eternal was recorded on a SSL sound screen. Skinny Puppy also used a SSL Sound Screen. I am sure that Roland 808 were used as well as AKAI samplers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:52:49 +0200 From: "Rev. Tobias 'Raist' Schneider" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used >what about "Live At Trancentral" mix of WTIL? I believe there's lots of >909 on that one. Talking of which, what is that synth King Boy is running his buzzsaw across in the Stadium House video? Does anyone know? Rev. Tobias "Raist" Schneider - -- "Believe in me, I'm with the High Command." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:30:11 PDT From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used > > > The 303 bassline synth has been used several times as well (IGUN comes >to > > mind). > >Actually, there is no TB-303 on IGUN at all. There is some on the >stadium house era version of WTIL, but that's about it. >The 303 and 909 are often assumed to make many noises they can't do. >Trust me on this, I have both at home! Are you sure about IGUN? I'm not talking about the main synth underline, but the other noises. In the IGUN Part 1, one starts at 00:50, and it's more pronounced at 4:09. I'm using the MP3 for times here since my turntables don;t have clocks eh? It's pretty 303 sounding to me, and IGUN is proof that KLF were using many filters at the time. If that isn't a 303 then I'm sure with proper EQing, and distortion (of which there is pleanty on IGUN) you could defenitly make the exact same noise...in which case I don't see how you could tell the difference. As for the 909, well same thing. It doesn;t sound much different than an 808, it does have more noises but I think (I could very well be wrong here) that the 909 has all of the noises that the 808 does, plus a few more. That and it's smaller and missing the wood sides:) Chad ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:15:07 -0000 From: "dean.ball" Subject: (klf) IGUN shirt Help! I've been after an Its Grim Up North shirt ever since the song was released, but cannot find one anywhere! Can anyone help?? Many thanks. The North Will Rise Again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:36:32 +0200 From: kubi Subject: Re: (klf) Equipment used > WTIL had a TB 303 on it and 3an Eternal was recorded on a SSL sound screen. > Skinny Puppy also used a SSL Sound Screen. I am sure that Roland 808 were > used as well as AKAI samplers. Sorry, I´m not into that, but what´s a SSL sound screen ? kubi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:10:51 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used Andrew Robinson wrote: > The dalek voice on Doctorin' is done with a ring modulator - as it's so > close the BBC dalek, I gues they are using the same machine, an EMS VCS-3 I can't agree. This is an original Dalek sample. You can hear Dj Cesare scratching on it on the other mixes I should know, cos I've sampled Daleks a lot :) - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:17:21 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Chumbawamba Just been listening to the new Chumbawamba album"WYSIWYG", which incidentally is a pretty good listen, and got to track 18 to hear a short rant about "speaking your peace and getting taken to court" from the guy who _must_ have been the guy on the 'phone from "I Wanna 1-2-1 To You". So (assuming I'm not wrong), there's another KLF / Chumbawamba connection of sorts. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:15:42 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used On Fri 14 Jul, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > Andrew Robinson wrote: > > > The dalek voice on Doctorin' is done with a ring modulator - as it's > > so close the BBC dalek, I gues they are using the same machine, an > > EMS VCS-3 > > I can't agree. This is an original Dalek sample. As a quite long-term fan of Doctor Who, I have to ask... in which episode of the TV series can a Dalek be heard to say "dosh! dosh! dosh! loadsa money!". I must've missed that episode from my video collection... Stuart. PS. It is really easy to Dalekify a voice using almost any ring modulator. The BBC were doing it back in 1963, after all. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:12:06 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Brief Intro On Fri 14 Jul, Doctor Mu wrote: > My dwelling is Leeds, UK and am still (2 years on) mourning the loss > of a fantastic record shop called Vinyl Addiction where I used to buy > my gear from. Especially as they had some capes from the Stadium > House trilogy that I was saving up for. Damn! About a year ago, a guy who used to live in Leeds told me to go to Vinyl Addiction in Leeds and see if they still had the capes. I went there to find that it had shut the year before... . Damn too! Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:11:37 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used Stuart Bruce wrote: > As a quite long-term fan of Doctor Who, I have to ask... in which > episode of the TV series can a Dalek be heard to say "dosh! dosh! dosh! > loadsa money!". > > I must've missed that episode from my video collection... c'mon Bruce. You should know this: and samples from English comedian Harry Enfield's character Loadsamoney's novelty hit dance track 'Doin' Up The House' (Mercury, May 1988). :> - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:31:45 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used On Fri 14 Jul, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > Stuart Bruce wrote: > > > As a quite long-term fan of Doctor Who, I have to ask... in which > > episode of the TV series can a Dalek be heard to say "dosh! dosh! > > dosh! loadsa money!". > > > > I must've missed that episode from my video collection... > > c'mon Bruce. Incidentally, my name is Stuart, not Bruce. Bruce is my surname. I am from Scotland and not Australia. > You should know this: > > and samples > from English comedian Harry Enfield's character Loadsamoney's novelty > hit dance track 'Doin' Up The House' (Mercury, May 1988). Not what I said; the original post said that the Dalek noise was a sample of a Dalek voice, implying that Bill & Jimmy hadn't Dalekified it themselves, but taken it "as was". But the Harry Enfield track uses Harry Enfield's unprocessed voice; so even if they sampled that (which I can't remember if they did, since I haven't heard the Harry Enfield track for years), they still had to put it through the ring modulator to make it sound the way it does. Now, if the Harry Enfield track contains a Dalek voice, I will stand corrected. I wouldn't have argued back if you hadn't called me Bruce... . Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:48:25 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used STUART Bruce wrote: > Not what I said; the original post said that the Dalek noise was a > sample of a Dalek voice, implying that Bill & Jimmy hadn't Dalekified it > themselves, but taken it "as was". But the Harry Enfield track uses > Harry Enfield's unprocessed voice; so even if they sampled that (which I > can't remember if they did, since I haven't heard the Harry Enfield > track for years), they still had to put it through the ring modulator to > make it sound the way it does. yes, but I ment the obvious "exterminate" and "we obey no one" Dalek samples. It's pretty understandable they've put the "bosh-bosh-bosh" sample thru a ring modulator to make it sound Dalek-like. - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:49:00 -0400 From: "Jerry Quartley" Subject: Re: (klf) Equipment used SSL stands for Solid State Logic, they make mixing desks. - ----- Original Message ----- From: kubi To: rmstringer Cc: Klf2 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: Re: (klf) Equipment used > > > WTIL had a TB 303 on it and 3an Eternal was recorded on a SSL sound screen. > > Skinny Puppy also used a SSL Sound Screen. I am sure that Roland 808 were > > used as well as AKAI samplers. > > Sorry, I=B4m not into that, but what=B4s a SSL sound screen ? > > kubi KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:14:03 +0100 From: Jai Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used At 1:20 pm +0000 14/7/00, Andrew Robinson wrote: >The TR-808 was certainly on all the early stuff, but there isn't much >909 on any of it. 1987 was pretty much just a TR-808 and A Greengate DS3 >sampler (apple II based... not Mac II, Apple II!) kin 'ell - i used to have an old apple II. if only i'd have known, i'd have put some effort into getting the gear. can anyone point me in the direction of more info on getting/setting up a Greengate DS3 (and possibly how to do it on a MacG3 :) :) - -- - -- Jai Nelson @illitrate.cx - --- "I know you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen" - HAL 9000 - 2001: A Space Odyssey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 01:04:22 +0100 From: Jai Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used At 1:48 am +0200 15/7/00, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: >yes, but I ment the obvious "exterminate" and "we obey no one" Dalek >samples. its always possible, but i'm not sure. in the song, doesn't it go: "EX-terminate" whereas the daleks tended to go more with a kinda even emphasis: "ex-term-in-ate" i dunno if that makes any sense. i'm very much in need of sleep here. so i'll stop throwing my 2 pennies arond and get some sleep, nite all - -- - -- Jai Nelson illitrate@breathemail.net http://www.illitrate.cx/ - --- She said "There's one thing you gotta learn Is not to be afraid of it." I said "No, I like it, I like it, its good." She said "You like it now, you'll learn to love it later." --Robbie Robertson 'Somewhere Down That Crazy River' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:45:24 +0200 From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Fw: (klf) what equipment was used - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Gombosi To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used > >Actually, there is no TB-303 on IGUN at all. There is some on the > >stadium house era version of WTIL, but that's about it. > >The 303 and 909 are often assumed to make many noises they can't do. > >Trust me on this, I have both at home! > > Are you sure about IGUN? I'm not talking about the main synth underline, but > the other noises. In the IGUN Part 1, one starts at 00:50, and it's more > pronounced at 4:09. I'm using the MP3 for times here since my turntables No, this isn't a 303. But there is one at 5:33 :) Check it out! > As for the 909, well same thing. It doesn;t sound much different than an > 808, it does have more noises but I think (I could very well be wrong here) > that the 909 has all of the noises that the 808 does, plus a few more. That > and it's smaller and missing the wood sides:) No, the 909 instruments are totally different to the 808 ones - -- Torsten Pattberg Visit KLF ONLINE at www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:15:25 +0100 From: Jai Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used At 11:31 pm +0100 14/7/00, Stuart Bruce wrote: >But the Harry Enfield track uses >Harry Enfield's unprocessed voice; so even if they sampled that (which I >can't remember if they did, since I haven't heard the Harry Enfield >track for years), they still had to put it through the ring modulator to >make it sound the way it does. i am almost certain that they don't sample Harry Enfield. there was always lots of emphasis on the 'loads' when he said it. __LOADS__ a money see? which just isn't there on DTT. besides, why go to all the effort of sampling and then modulating, when you can just speak it yourself into the modulator??? no need to even think about sample clearing or anything - -- - -- Jai Nelson illitrate@breathemail.net http://www.illitrate.cx/ - --- She said "There's one thing you gotta learn Is not to be afraid of it." I said "No, I like it, I like it, its good." She said "You like it now, you'll learn to love it later." --Robbie Robertson 'Somewhere Down That Crazy River' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 08:57:19 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used On Sat 15 Jul, Jai wrote: > > At 1:48 am +0200 15/7/00, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > >yes, but I ment the obvious "exterminate" and "we obey no one" Dalek > >samples. > > its always possible, but i'm not sure. in the song, doesn't it go: > "EX-terminate" > > whereas the daleks tended to go more with a kinda even emphasis: > "ex-term-in-ate" I doubt this disagreement is easy to resolve what with the number of Doctor Who episodes with Daleks in and nobody's going to sit through them all to see if they can find the DTT 'one', but hypothetically I'm with Jai on this one. The emphasis is different. You've got a guy to stand in front of a microphone to say "dosh dosh dosh loadsa money" and "you wot (you wot you wot you wot)" into a processor. It is then _very_ easy to spend two more minutes just to get him to say a few other stock Dalek phrases, of which the two most common are "exterminate" and "we obey no-one"; compared to the hours of TV watching required to find the phrase in a Doctor Who episode. Also, the voice does have a different emphasis (as Jai pointed out) in time with the music. _And_, it's a "clean" sample; in Doctor Who, by the time the Daleks were shouting, there was usually some kind of background noise (somebody screaming, somebody running, the Radiophonic Workshop getting paid to break things nastily). I'm willing to stand corrected, but if you ask me there's no sampling involved in that Dalek. It's just a guy having a larf into a microphone. Stuart. PS. Sorry for making a fuss about the name thing... - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 19:25:25 +0100 From: "Twilight Isotope" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used The loadsa money and the you wot ones are certainly not from Doctor Who... The "exterminate" one could be.. I'm not sure... It sounds a lot more authentic than the loadsa money one, so I think it probably is sampled, and then played at different pitches... I do see what you are saying about the emphasis though... The "we obey no-one", "we are the superior beings" are definately authentic, as is the "you will obey me!" which is Davros. He says this before the dalek says "We obey no-one. We are the superior beings". He then reaches for a switch and the dalek shoots him... These are all from "Genesis of the Daleks" so I presume that if the "Exterminate" one is real, it is also from there..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 12:16:50 +1000 From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: RE: (klf) Bruce Stuart Bruce wrote: > PS. Sorry for making a fuss about the name thing... You're lucky myself or the other Australians in the list didn't kick up a stink over your suggestion that we're all called "Bruce"! Regards, Michael "Bruce" Hurwood Professor of Philosophical KLF Studies University of Woolloomooloo Sydney, Australia. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 19:32:18 -0700 From: "honk honk" Subject: RE: (klf) daleks in the house greetings... didnt COLDCUT have a single called "DOCTORIN' THE HOUSE" before DOCTORIN THE TARDIS? i thought that thats where klf got the title from. if they did, which ive heard so, then that would just complicate the meanings a bit more, giving another subtle dimension to KLF Logic. harry enfield, to coldcut, to the timelords...did anyone follow it up after the klf? >> You should know this: >> >> and samples >> from English comedian Harry Enfield's character Loadsamoney's novelty >> hit dance track 'Doin' Up The House' (Mercury, May 1988). - ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:20:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis / Gary In The Tardis / Gary Joins The JAMs Hi, I wanna put The Timelords' songs on FTP archive, but I haven't several tracks and I'm not sure about right names of other. If there is any good expert, good collector and fast line owner, I would like to hear about you =) The Timelords' tracks: 3.34 Doctorin' The Tardis (also as 7" Edit) 3.37 Doctorin' The Tardis (Radio) (also as 7" Mix) 2:20 Doctorin' The Tardis (Video Mix) 4.08 Doctorin' The Tardis (Minimal Mix) 4.28 Doctorin' The Tardis (Minimal) 4.27 Doctorin' The Tardis (Minimal) (also as 120 BPM) 4.28 Doctorin' The Tardis (Instrumental) 8.11 Doctorin' The Tardis (12" Mix) 8.15 Doctorin' The Tardis (Club Mix) (also as 125 BPM) 3.26 Gary In The Tardis 3.21 Gary In The Tardis (Radio) 4.08 Gary In The Tardis (Minimal) 6.12 Gary Joins The JAMs (also as 6.16, 6.20, 6.22) Questions: 1) Is any difference between 3.34 and 3.37 7" version of DTT? 2) Is any difference between Minimal and Minimal 120BPM version? 3) Is any difference between 12" and Club Mix of DTT? 4) Is any difference between 3.26 and 3.21 Radio version of GITT? I got several tracks, but in 128kbps - is anybody able to grab all or several in better bitrate and upload it? On ftp archive are now two related songs (music/mp3): Gary Glitter - Rock & Roll (Part 2).mp3 2.8 MB Ron Grainer - Tardis - Doctor Who.mp3 2.5 MB greets - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:34:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) FTP Archive Update (FTM Mix) Hi, I obtained next version of 2K - FTM, so there are: music/mp3/2K - Fuck The Millennium (Different Project Royal Mix).mp3 6.33/6.3 MB also playlist 2K - Fuck The Millennium [-ALL-].m3u was updated. - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 10:41:58 +0100 From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: (klf) Scotty Being new to the list I only just found out that Scott Piering died earlier this year. Although I couldn't say we we were close or anything I worked for the guy for a couple of years (round the time of the Stadium house trilogy) so I was a bit down to hear the news ( I asked Dj Dominion on Saturday night after reading a post that mentioned Scott Piering RIP ). Just as a personal thing I'd like to pay my respects & any posts either to the group or to me (andylee@callnetuk.com) regarding events in Jan would be appreciated. Sorry about the "down" post but I had a lot of respect for the guy and the world is a smaller place without him! B seeeing you Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:33:10 CEST From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) The White Room Film Does anyone know an FTP address where I could find both White Room versions on mpeg? Adam's got one on his server but I need the other one now... should be the older demo version I suppose Thanx, DAN - --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:15:26 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used "Rev. Tobias 'Raist' Schneider" wrote: > Talking of which, what is that synth King Boy is running his buzzsaw > across in the Stadium House video? Does anyone know? I believe that's the one: http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker/ - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 10:19:54 -0500 From: "rmstringer" Subject: (klf) Scott Piering I have heard that name before, but who was he and how did he fit into the KLF Saga? Please let me know. Thankx and Eternally Yours, RMStringer:) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:34:36 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) what equipment was used > > > Talking of which, what is that synth King Boy is running his buzzsaw > > > across in the Stadium House video? Does anyone know? > > I believe that's the one: > > http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker/ rmstringer wrote: > > Some type of roland modular no, it's Oberheim OB8 - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.kki.net.pl/~siker icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:00:09 +0100 From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: Re: (klf) Scott Piering Who was Scott Piering Geez I don't know where to begin.. Scotty P or Plugmaster Piering was with the KLF from the early days. What started as another radio promotion job grew into collusion with the subterfuge that is the KLF. In essence he was their radio and TV plugger, getting stuff on playlists and organising the infamous TOTP recordings (although at that time it was Sally Fellows [sorry about spelling] who did the TV). Who was Scott? An American in the Uk, I can't give you a full career run down but things started with John Peel and the American college radio scene. He brought Bob Marley to Island, he managed the Smiths and worked with more indie stars than I can count! You may recognise him from the Omnibus documentary and that's how I remember him, Hawaiian shirt, leather bomber jacket a packet of fags & a bag of records Was he important in the whole KLF strategy? Did you ever hear a KLF single on national radio? If the answer to the last question was yes then you have answered the first one ! Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:26:02 PDT From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Scott Piering That reminds me of the passing also last year of Rob Gretten (Gretton?) the manager for New Order. Also last year saw the closing of the Hacienda, New Order's club. And the cancellation of the New Order box set we all wanted so bad. It makes me wonder, and this has been brought up on usenet before, if we will ever see bands like these again. I don't think anyone is sure if New Order is really dead (or KLF for that matter), but the Cure seems to be finally on the way out. The Smith's are gone. Pet Shop Boys are doing better than ever, but will probably quit this decade. Will we ever see bands like these again? Regardless of your love for the Cure (which many people have, and many people have none of) they were a very influential band, and have been aground since the late 70s. They have millions of fans, and a huge back catalog of records that will inspire other individuals and bands for ages to come. Who is going to take the place of these type of bands? Smashmouth? Oasis? Smashing Pumpkins? Yeah right. Man, I'm a downy clowny today... Chad Gombosi Member SCP http://omocha.shc.uiowa.edu/scp Chad's Game Music Page http://chadsgamemusic.webjump.com "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #347 *************************