From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #455 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Sunday, June 10 2001 Volume 02 : Number 455 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:26:37 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:25:59 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:22:45 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:27:51 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:28:04 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:27:03 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:25:47 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:28:40 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:29:06 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:27:40 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:25:04 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:26:12 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) End the debate End the debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 08:44:42 +0100 From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) Over and out I had enough with the childish flame war that has been going on for the last few weeks. Personally I wish that PT3 had never been "discoverd" - we might still be having intellegent discussions on this list. The list has had problems before, such as a couple of months ago when it was fading away, hower it was sucessfully rescued by a number of people who cared about it, but given that those very people are resopnsible for the sorry state at the moment I can't see it improving. I might check back in a couple of months to see if it's returned to any type of sensible discussion - but I have my fears. It's a shame. Think about your actions on a larger scale, one little issue has just about destroyed this list. Over and out. Craig! /unsubscribe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 10:13:07 +0200 From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) Over and out At 08:44 09.06.01 +0100, you wrote: >I had enough with the childish flame war that has been going on for the >last few weeks. Me too! >Personally I wish that PT3 had never been "discoverd" - we might still >be having intellegent discussions on this list. If I had been the one that had bought PT3 on ebay, i had never told this to the list. As i would never told anybody when i win 10 million bucks on a lotterie. Sorry Miles, but I think Craig is right, your thread gave the list the death stroke..... > The list has had >problems before, such as a couple of months ago when it was fading away, >hower it was sucessfully rescued by a number of people who cared about >it, but given that those very people are resopnsible for the sorry state >at the moment I can't see it improving. We (those people who cared about the list) didn't want something like this, but this state showed the truth about the people on this list [who's a beggar (of mp3s and informations) and who's not]. >I might check back in a couple of months to see if it's returned to any >type of sensible discussion - but I have my fears. Me too, so i'm probably leaving this list forever.... >It's a shame. Think about your actions on a larger scale, one little >issue has just about destroyed this list. Those who want contact me can do this still over http://www.klf.exit.de or my emailaddress. >Over and out. That's what I want to say, too Ford Timelord furthermore know as Basskatze or just Steffen Bye !!!!!! Need help leaving this mailing list? !!!!!! Send the command "unsubscribe" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:30:02 +0200 From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Just imagine... Just want to get EVERYONE imagine sth: think of Bill and Jimmy and try to guess what they would think about all this flaming going on here. Thought about it? Yes. They'd laugh. So do I. Personal contact from now on appreciated. No further actions will be taken for the next 23 days. At least. Go and find your brains again. If there are some. Dan - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:35:27 +0000 From: Agust A J Subject: Re: (klf) End the debate At 23:05 8.6.2001 -0700, you wrote: >Stop sending those moron. >I've seen people booted from the list for less. heck, I've seen ppl booted from their ISPs for less. someone please report him as a spammer & abuser. - --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nem1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:20:23 EDT From: TRACYANDI@aol.com Subject: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject Bought a great album today , the Avalanches 'Since I left you' , ok not exactly KLF related, but , the album is mostly made up of over 900 samples , sort of reminded me of the jams 1987 album , but taken to the extreme, and the new single 'Frontier Psychiatrist' is truely brilliant use of samples, you have got to hear it to believe it! H # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:34:58 +0200 From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject Is there something like a short list of some samples they used ? Maybe some popular artists ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:10:36 +0100 From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject > Is there something like a short list of some samples they used ? > Maybe some popular artists ? Well, they're the first artists ever who were given permission to use a sample of Madonna. They use the bassline from 'Holiday' to great effect. To be honest, they're more about creating different soundscapes from samples, in a DJ Shadow style, rather than deliberately using blatant samples for effect like the KLF. Nonetheless, it's excellent stuff. Del - ----------------------------------- Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:39:49 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject TRACYANDI@aol.com writes >Bought a great album today That reminds me... Anyone heard this notorious sampling selection yet? Available from the recent Rough Trade catalogue: plunderphonics               69 plunderphonics 96     cd     25.99  five dozen tracks on two discs in this deluxe 27 year retrospective box set from seeland (negativeland) packed with legendary and notorious previously banned cuts plus a 48 page book - absolutely essential and bonkers - tracks by anthrax, sinead o'connick jr., beastie shop beach, bing stingspreen etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:09:00 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) Re: Ok to change subject In a message dated 09/06/01 18:13:13 GMT Daylight Time, djnite@klf-communications.com writes: >Well, they're the first artists ever who were given >permission to use a >sample of Madonna. They use the bassline >from 'Holiday' to great effect. MC Miker G and DJ Sven also sampled Madonna's Holiday in there 80's hit Holiday Rap - seeing as it didn't get banned they probably got permission from Madonna as well (unless Madonna took it off them!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:11:21 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) Ban on HTML e-mails Could someone please remove the ban on HTML e-mails to this list 'cos it's a nuisance and it's putting me off from sending to the list. Since I upgraded to AOL 6.0 I've had to go to aol.co.uk and login to AOL Mail 2.0 to send to the list. I think now most people can read HTML messages and those that can't get a copy in text anyway. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:17:18 +0100 From: John Subject: (klf) K is for Kompany It`s been a while since The People`s Pyramid and K2 Plant Hire Ltd have been mentioned here and after recently coming across an interview online with Alan Moore that mentioned plans involving the project (Loch Ness being mooted as a possible site and the demolition of Stonehenge by K2 Plant Hire on 1/1/2000) and his meetings/involvement with Bill and Jimmy it got me thinking back about it all once more. Then, just last week a friend of mine said that she was popping along to Companies House to check that the registration of a mutual friend`s company had been registered correctly on his behalf, and as she was going to check out a few others at the time and wondered if there was anything that I might want looked up at all. I remembered that someone mentioned on this list ages ago that they had been along to Companies House and checked out the credentials for K2 Plant Hire Limited and asked her to enquire if she could in order to just see out of curiosity what info that they had and if it was still active, etc. (Especially as the accompanying website http://www.k2planthire.ltd.uk went under a number of changes and now has seemingly been mothballed - are there any mirrors of any of its various guises and incarnations in existence anywhere?) Anyhow, apart from the scanty details available that are provided via searching the Companies House website I now have 16 pages of documentation (annual report and financial statements) that tends to raise more questions than answers... The registered office for the Company is a Chartered Accountants in St John`s Wood, but Mr. William Ernest Drummond`s business address for K2 is his Farm in Bucks and Jimmy`s new home in Brighton (number 23!) since moving from his large house near Totnes is also listed. Nothing really odd there though... K2 Plant Hire was incorporated (and is still active - next accounts due on 31/1/2002) as a private limited company on 24/01/1995 (though I would hazard to guess that it was in fact set up on the 23rd and it took a day to sort out the bureaucracy, etc...) with the nature of business being catalogued under 'other service activities'. However, these documents later go on to state "The principal activity of the company is that of a music company" and both B&J`s occupations are given as 'musicians' along with D.o.B`s and other usual administration type stuff...) The previous registered name for this company until 15/02/1996 was 'MEILLEUR PROMOTIONS LIMITED'?!? Does anyone know what this was? Maybe a PR firm set up by Bill? Other things that might be of some note is that 100 shares (at the nominal sum of one pound each) were issued/held to both directors (Bill and Jimmy) with each being given 50. Bill`s signature is evident on several of the documents, but Jimmy`s scrawl never ever appears on any of them! Admin expenses for the company are 6,000 pounds a year and "the company recorded a loss of 108,441 in the year ending 31/3/2000 (balance at 1/4/1999 was 102,805 in debt), but continued to meet its day to day working capital requirements from the funds made available by the directors. During the year Mr. Cauty and Mr. W.E Drummond made additional loans of 2,200 each to the company." So, anyone got an idea of what the current status is with K2 or are they just keeping the company barely alive or is it going to be dissolved sometime as some sort of tax scam or whatever?!? I also recall that at the debut Gimpo Film Technologies event that was held up in Derby there was a video shown of the New Year`s Eve distribution of Tennant`s Extra cans to the homeless and this was done under the monicker of 'K1 Plant Hire Ltd' rather than by The K Foundation or any other presumed name that is usually stated for this action. AFAIK this was not registered as a legitimate bona fide company, but K2 obviously is (for whatever purpose), but surely K1 could have been, and why wasn't it, but K2 was? Also, a K5 Plant Hire Ltd is mentioned in a new forthcoming book by Stewart Home (whatever happened to K3 and K4 and will we end up with K23 eventually?!?) Anyone got any answers or noticed any additional anomalies regarding any of this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:07:09 +0100 From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) K is for Kompany John wrote: > Then, just last week a friend of mine said that she was popping along to > Companies House to check that the registration of a mutual friend`s > company had been registered correctly... You can (for a fee) get all the same info on-line from http://www.companies-house.gov.uk but only during certain times of day - this is quite possibly the obly website that actually closes at night! > ..."The principal activity of the company is that of a > music company" and both B&J`s occupations are given as 'musicians' along > with D.o.B`s and other usual administration type stuff...) It's usual for musicians to need some sort of business front for their studios, equipment, to be able to claim VAT back for purchases and so on. > The previous registered name for this company until 15/02/1996 was > 'MEILLEUR PROMOTIONS LIMITED'?!? Does anyone know what this was? Maybe a > PR firm set up by Bill? Probably this means absolutely nothing - it's usual if you want a limited company to get one that has been already set up by a specialist in company formations , who will have 100s of them with whatever names sounded like they might be worth having, and related to the field they are set up to trade in. The first thing you do as directors of an off-the shelf company like this is to change then name to whatever you actually want. If you looks at most companies records at companied house you'll find an odd name like this in their ancient past. > Other things that might be of some note is that 100 shares (at the > nominal sum of one pound each) were issued/held to both directors (Bill > and Jimmy) with each being given 50. Again 100 pounds split 2 was is the normal was to set up a company. > Admin expenses for the company are 6,000 pounds a year and "the company > recorded a loss of 108,441 in the year ending 31/3/2000 (balance at > 1/4/1999 was 102,805 in debt), but continued to meet its day to day > working capital requirements from the funds made available by the > directors. During the year Mr. Cauty and Mr. W.E Drummond made > additional loans of 2,200 each to the company." This is totally consistent with B & J buying anything they can legitimately claim as a business expense through the company and claiming the VAT back. This isn't a tax scam, it's just the way the world works! - - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:23:06 -0500 From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) End the Debate!!!!! I think that DR WHO should be kicked off the group for sending all of those fucking messages. ASSHOLE!!!! RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 18:46:54 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) End the Debate!!!!! I think he said he was leaving the group anyway in another e-mail. Anyway I've just sent him about 30-40 replies to tell him what a fucking moron he is. Hope he get's them all :) In a message dated Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:25:44 British Summer Time, "RMStringer" writes: << I think that DR WHO should be kicked off the group for sending all of those fucking messages. ASSHOLE!!!! RMStringer>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:00:14 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) weird list behaviour - msgs going missing? hi all, i know we're all trying to end the debating, but i posted quite a long rant about two days ago now and it hasnt arrived on the list[1]. i'm posting this to mainly see if it gets through, and to warn ppl that if a huge[2] msg turns up, its me ranting and doesnt need to be read unless you wish to see my opinion[3] on all the debating. i had promised to shut up a while at the end of the rant but since it hasnt shown up yet :-) has anyone else noticed anything with deliveries of list mail? its prob better to reply offlist. thanx brendan [1] i was hoping the point i tried to raise in my rant would encourage ppl to shutup. [2] it should be around 20k :-( sorry but once i started typing it just kept going. [3] my opinion is just as important and anyone elses and i refuse to not post my opinion just because others think they're important enough to demand that their msgs are the final word on the subject. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:19:25 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) weird list behaviour - msgs going missing? ok, now i'm really suss. this was sent and arrived back on the list in less than 5 mins. where's my rant gone? cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:58:06 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Mark Stent's Go West revisited A month or so ago I reported that the Mark Stent remix of the Pet Shop Boys Go West was somehow released on Now That's What I Call Music 1993 - Millennium Edition (probably by accident). This mix was previously unreleased. To further this, the full 9+ minute mix appears on the reissue of PSB's Very [1]. I suspected this but waited until I actually heard for myself before letting the list know. The KLF connection, other than Stent's name, well familiar with liner note readers, is that the mix contains a very KLF-ish break. The ending of the extended mix also reminds me of something K related but I can't put my finger on it. Some remix somewhere.... oh wait, just hit me: WTIL Acid mix (around 4.35). - -paul [1] - for non PSB fans on the list, they have currently reissued six of their albums, remastered, with a bonus disc of b-sides, remixes, and unreleased tracks in the UK. those in the states might want to order overseas: apart from the release date being sometime in july, the US retailers are selling them for around $24-27. amazon.co.uk is selling them for $14 (without the VAT) + shipping. Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere; David Byrne - Look Into the Eyeball; Lo Fidelity All Stars - On the Floor at the Boutique; Utah Saints - Wired World; Pet Shop Boys - Further Listening "...and the lights went out in his eyes for the very last time." ~ Douglas Adams 1952-2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:31:24 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) K is for Kompany > Anyhow, apart from the scanty details available that are provided via > searching the Companies House website I now have 16 pages of > documentation (annual report and financial statements) that tends to > raise more questions than answers... Sound interesting. Any chance of making a pdf document, or at least scans and putting them up somewhere? I assume these are public documents... And I think it goes without saying that any relevant personal information (ie: home addresses) be blotted out. > Also, a K5 Plant Hire Ltd is mentioned in a new forthcoming book by > Stewart Home (whatever happened to K3 and K4 and will we end up with K23 > eventually?!?) eh? what's this about? - -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere; David Byrne - Look Into the Eyeball; Lo Fidelity All Stars - On the Floor at the Boutique; Utah Saints - Wired World; Pet Shop Boys - Further Listening "...and the lights went out in his eyes for the very last time." ~ Douglas Adams 1952-2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:04:05 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Apologies To everyone on the list who recieved my 200+ emails, I am sorry to clog up your mail. I've never done this, ever, and will never again. I just hoped it would change the subject. And though it irritated some (probably most) , I have not seen a PT3 email / comment / question since then. So maybe it is over. No one needs to reply to this email, It would be just more wasted mail (as was mine) not having to do with the KLF. I'm sure we'd all be happy to just get on with better KLF related subjects. I've followed KLF since they started and I've been on the list quite awhile and I didn't do this just to be kicked off or to piss everyone off, just to make a point. And i'm sure some (or most) of you dont agree with my method as I can plainly see through the 800 or so replys I recieved, most very unhappy, but which I fully expected to get back after doing this. Trust me I recieved punishment, I'm only on webtv and it threw my unit through a loop and took me a couple hours to delete mail as this pathetic thing can't handle much. With that said I'd like to say I apologise to the entire group and those who mailed me Rockman Mike, Phil Blake, Darren Forrester, Tosser, Timo Toivonen, Ernesto Perez, RM Stringer, Agust A J, Miles, and everyone else. If anyone wants to reply to this maybe you can just send to me so we can keep the group free from this subject. I hope you can all forgive. I enjoy reading your questions and comments and hope we can all be friends and discuss our favorite subject again. Doc p.s. Not sure if anyone wants to answer this but I posted a question a few weeks ago but didn't find the answer yet. What did the original Pure Trance 5 cover look like. (did it say Last train or E-train) Any info would be appreciated. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:18:28 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject hI ALL, > Bought a great album today , the Avalanches they're australian - and from melbourne even as i understand. isnt it a fantastic album :-) >'Since I left you' , ok not exactly KLF related, > but , the album is mostly made up of over 900 > samples , and some real obscure ones too :-) > sort of reminded me of the jams 1987 album , > but taken to the extreme, and the new single > 'Frontier Psychiatrist' is truely brilliant > use of samples, > you have got to hear it to believe it! the album is great. fantastic even. i highly recommend geting it. the live show is sposed to be really good too. the dj (dexta i think) does pretty well in the dmc championships as well. i havent read the other msgs on the list RE: this yet, but if anyone needs more info i'm sure i could find some in the music mags around here. they're a bit of a favourite around town at the moment. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:18:19 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Ok , just to change the subject Howdy, > Is there something like a short list of some > samples they used ? Maybe some popular artists ? from memory, it doesnt list them all on the cd i saw. they really take the sounds and mash them all together as derek mentioned. its not say.um..bomb the bass style sampling, its just all layered together to make music if that makes sense. its a fanatastic album though. really good. i read somewhere (i may be getting this confused) that the single that was released had to have samples removed from it, but the album version was left alone. Billie(in aust): are you paying attention here? would it be possible for your friend at 'inpress' to see if they have any interview transcripts - i know that there were articles on them in every paper a few weeks/months ago. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:14:39 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) E Train cover (was: Apologies) > p.s. Not sure if anyone wants to answer this but I posted a question a > few weeks ago but didn't find the answer yet. What did the original > Pure Trance 5 cover look like. (did it say Last train or E-train) Any > info would be appreciated. The KLF: E-Train To Trancentral [1988] unrleased single 12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 008T) E-Train To Trancentral The Lovers' Side [scheduled 12 Dec 88, rescheduled Sep 89; labels exist, as do black/purple ("Pure Trance 5 - The White Room") and sea-green/black ("E-Train To Trancentral") sleeves.] - -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere; David Byrne - Look Into the Eyeball; Lo Fidelity All Stars - On the Floor at the Boutique; Utah Saints - Wired World; Pet Shop Boys - Further Listening "...and the lights went out in his eyes for the very last time." ~ Douglas Adams 1952-2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:33:00 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) K is for Kompany <> Meilleur is French for Better - "Better Promotions Limited" <> The K1 bit could be something to do with 1K which is what millennium we were in until officially 12:00:00 1/1/01 'cos there other name K2 was made by reversing the ***K The Millennium group title of 2K which is another name for 2000. (or the 2nd millennium) <> If it was to do with dates K1 Plant Hire might have been registered up until 1/1/00 or 1/1/01 (depending on what B&J took as the official end to 1K (the first millennium) - everyone knows that the new millennium official started on the 1/1/01 not 1/1/00 due to the calendar starting at 1 not 0 don't they?) <> If it is something to do with dates then we could be waiting a very very long time for K3 to surface let alone K5 or K23!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #455 *************************