From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #459 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Tuesday, June 19 2001 Volume 02 : Number 459 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:08:03 +1000 From: thug5@optusnet.com.au Subject: (klf) Jimmy's LOTR poster & Policty of Truth Greetings to all, With the release of first Lord of the Rings movie due in only 6 months, the merchandising is in full steam. The books have been reprinted, you can buy the board game, the role playing game, the audio books, the limited edition this-that- and-the-other, etc. ad nauseam. And of course, amongst all this, Jimmy's Lord of the Rings poster has been reprinted and is turning up in shops around London and no doubt elsewhere. I grabbed a nice new copy, about 3 feet by 5 feet for under 5 quid at "The Orc's Nest" in Soho. Incidentally, HMV in Oxford street had a big display up for a number of Depeche Mode reissues that have just be released. The "Policy of Truth" single still mislabels the "Pavlov's Dub" mix as the "Trancentral Mix". Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:20:04 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: (klf) Shag Times rerelease A big *sorry* if this has been mentioned before. Action Records (http://www.action-records.co.uk/ ) sends out a list of new releases and new items in stock every week, and this week among the list was "Shag Times", as a 2LP. This could be a second-hand copy that they've gotten their hands on, or a mint original they've dug up from somewhere, or it might be another one of the quite long string of represses of KLF vinyl? Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:35:17 +0200 From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Levellers CD Hi y'all, just got the Levellers' "Belaruse" single CD. "Wow," you might think. But what please is track two? 2 "Subvert (Live at Trancentral)" Any infos on this one? Thanks a lot, Dan - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:19:16 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Crystal Method There's a new Crystal Method album coming out, called "Tweekend". I haven't heard it yet but apparently it's as good as the first album, "Vegas", several of the tracks on which are decidedly stadium house. I got a pretty disappointing response a few months back when I asked other people to recommend 'stadium house'-style music in the style of the KLF, so I thought I'd take it upon myself to make some suggestions if and when I found them... The new Way Out West album is damn good too. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:35:26 +0100 From: "jboy" Subject: Re: (klf) Jimmy's LOTR poster & Policty of Truth > And of course, amongst all this, Jimmy's Lord of the Rings poster has been > reprinted and is turning up in shops around London and no doubt elsewhere. I > grabbed a nice new copy, about 3 feet by 5 feet for under 5 quid at "The Orc's > Nest" in Soho. > has anyone got a scan of this?.... or a description.... so i know what to look for... jboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:44:12 +0200 From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Crystal Method > There's a new Crystal Method album coming out, called "Tweekend". I > haven't heard it yet but apparently it's as good as the first album, > "Vegas", several of the tracks on which are decidedly stadium house. I really love their first album!! Hope the new one will meet my expectations... :) Good taste though, Stu Cheers, Dan - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:02:51 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Shag Times rerelease On 18 Jun 2001, at 16:24, Stuart Bruce wrote: > This could be a second-hand copy that they've gotten their hands on, or a > mint original they've dug up from somewhere, or it might be another one of > the quite long string of represses of KLF vinyl? I used to live in Preston where Action Records are from and when I lived there they kept turning up with unusual hard to find records. Most of the time they are second hand copies, although sometimes they'll do a Virgin where they display a record that is available on order yet when they try and order it, they don't actually get it in. In 1997 they put ***K The Millennium on that list yet when I went to buy it they couldn't get hold of it (Our Price had it on display!) . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:03:57 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Shag Times rerelease On 18 Jun 2001, at 16:24, Stuart Bruce wrote: > This could be a second-hand copy that they've gotten their hands on, or a > mint original they've dug up from somewhere, or it might be another one of > the quite long string of represses of KLF vinyl? I used to live in Preston where Action Records are from and when I lived there they kept turning up with unusual hard to find records. Most of the time they are second hand copies, although sometimes they'll do a Virgin where they display a record that is available on order yet when they try and order it, they don't actually get it in. In 1997 they put ***K The Millennium on that list yet when I went to buy it they couldn't get hold of it (Our Price had it on display!) . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:58:31 +0100 From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: Re: (klf) Levellers CD And the link is...Scott Piering plugged for them both Couldn't resist an Appearing mention this month! Andy PS Once I destroyed four boxes of warped Shag Times - 100 double albums all smashed and skipped by myself 'cos they were stored too near the radiator in the cramped Appearing office - sweet dreams list lovers! > > Hi y'all, > > just got the Levellers' "Belaruse" single CD. > > "Wow," you might think. But what please is track two? > > 2 "Subvert (Live at Trancentral)" > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:35:20 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) OT Pet Shop Boys re-releases Someone mentioned these last week. Is the 11.99 UKP a new release price? Will it increase if I don't buy now. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:07:07 From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Shag Times rerelease >This could be a second-hand copy that they've gotten their hands on, or a >mint original they've dug up from somewhere, or it might be another one of >the quite long string of represses of KLF vinyl? > By the way, has the list as a whole, come up with a solid theory as to what these "re-issues" really are? I got the Chill Out one sent to me from a friend, and while it's not the real thing, it's not obviously fake either, where as all other KLF bootlegs have been (messed colors and purposeful mis-spellings, etc) Add that to the fact that major chain stores that would never knowingly touch a bootleg seem to be carrying it, and I think maybe B&J went back on thier whole "we deleated our back catalogue" thing. Either way I want them all since the only real KLF Coms vinyl I have are IGUN, and WTIL vs. Moody Boys. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:10:11 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) OT Pet Shop Boys re-releases > Someone mentioned these last week. Is the 11.99 UKP a new release price? > Will it increase if I don't buy now. A true Brit might be better off telling you, but my wife, who is one, says in the UK they price things differently than the US. Where a new releases comes out full price then gradually goes down, rather than starting out on sale and going to full after a few weeks. But without the VAT it comes to 10.20ukp each which is a pretty good price and I doubt theyd get lower. Apparently some places are selling them for a low as 9.99 (=/- VAT I don't know). - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:39:32 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) OT Pet Shop Boys re-releases In the UK it depends where you shop, HMV and Virgin are likely to charge about 14-15UKP for a new release either double or single CD. Asda usually beats them with an 11.99UKP price tag on single CD's (14.99UKP for double) But the cheapest I've seen has to be Music Box (they have some stores, mainly in London and Liverpool) or you can order online - all single album chart CD's 9.99UKP + 1UKP P&P to anywhere in the UK. You can see there website at http://www.musicbox.uk.co (no I haven't made a mistake there website is ".uk.co" not ".co.uk") >> Someone mentioned these last week. Is the 11.99 UKP a new release >>price? >> Will it increase if I don't buy now.  It's more likely to DECREASE than INCREASE! >A true Brit might be better off telling you, but my wife, who is one, says in  >the UK they price things differently than the US. Where a new releases >comes out full price then gradually goes down, rather than starting out on >sale and going to full after a few weeks.  In the UK new chart singles start off really cheap (like 99p) and then when they get into the chart (usually there released on Monday and get in to the chart the following Sunday) then they go to full price (2.99/3.99UKP), as for albums. Albums usually start off at 9.99UKP and stay there, however if you buy your albums from certain shops (i.e. Virgin, Our Price, Andy's Records, HMV just to name a few) they usually start at about 14.99-15.99 and drop to 9.99 and then end up in the bargain basement ("3 for a tenor" and things like that) . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 20:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Snarfy Subject: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit I thought it was just bad that she was touring as the "New KLF" check this page out... http://www.international-artists.com/klf.html pretty scary stuff.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:49:36 -0400 From: "Ditch X" Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit !!!... God help us all! Looks to me like either the deranged writings of Wanda Dee herself, or the writings of an equivalently disturbed fan! I wonder if anything on that page isn't stretching the truth to new lows... - -Ditch X # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:29:07 -0700 From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) rereleases/wanda add to the list of rereleases: THE MANUAL. a friend sotted them in a virgin megastore in nyc recently. different cover. published by ellipsis. http://www.ellipsis.com/ amazing that the rereleases are making it past the legal walls it didnt get over the first time around. or are they? by the way, i looked at http://www.international-artists.com/klf.html . "BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward when they decided to collaborate with Wanda ..." oh. this article, [probably written by herself]is the most pathetic attept at marketing one's self that i have ever seen. not that i need to convince any of you, but i just cant believe how desperate she is, babbling about how she was on arista/bmg... she'll never let that go. "platinum records now gold, to hang on the walls at home. when the neighbors come round, i'll always break down, repeatin the stories of old". [julian cope is dead] - -happyconsumer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:18:32 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) rereleases/wanda > add to the list of rereleases: > THE MANUAL. > > a friend sotted them in a virgin megastore in nyc recently. > different cover. > published by ellipsis. > http://www.ellipsis.com/ This is a confirmed official re-release and has actually been out since late 1998. New afterward by Drummond, in which he documents trying to locate a copy of the book for the re-release after he realizes he doesn't have a copy himself. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1899858652/qid=992927819/sr=1-3/026-5 788792-5878860 - -paul Currently in rotation: Art of Mix - Ultra Hot Art 4 (psb); Fatboy Slim - A Break from the Norm; Paul McCartney - Wingspan; ELO - Zoom "...and the lights went out in his eyes for the very last time." ~ Douglas Adams 1952-2001 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:44:46 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: (klf) Big Brother's 23 argument (off-topic) Last night's Channel 4 "Big Brother" programme in the UK ended with an argument between two of the male housemates (Bubble and Brian, for those who might care) because one of them had been told by Big Brother to take a cut-out sign showing his daughter's birthdate (the 23rd) but the other still had the number "23" above his bed from his 23rd birthday party... Given the premise of the programme it seemed quite appropriate that it should be that particular number, really. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 01:57:25 -0400 (EDT) From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Re: Wanda Dee takes the credit I didn't know Wanda was such a superstar. Of course I had never heard of her before KLF or since then except for this crap that I read. I think the writer got it backwards. Wanda being the one with moderate sucess who's career turned upward with her collaboration wih Bill and Jimmy. Now she can run around calling herself the KLF and people actually give her a listen. I'm sure we could all sell out shows and get press if we advertised as the KLF. I think calling her "The Goddess" and the "Black Madonna" is more than a stretch though! By the way, Nicely written article Ms. Dee. I think the Enquirer is hiring. Just my opinion, Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:09:38 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) OT Pet Shop Boys re-releases Darrenforster99@aol.com writes: > >In the UK it depends where you shop, HMV and Virgin are likely to charge >about 14-15UKP for a new release either double or single CD. >Asda usually beats them with an 11.99UKP price tag on single CD's >(14.99UKP for double) Asda are very unlikely to stock the Pet Shop Boys rereleases- they only stock the 'major' chart albums, the ones that get into the top 10 or so of the album chart. And as you say, Asda charge 14.99ukp for a double CD, and since the CDs being talked about are double CDs, that's the same price as Virgin Megastore are asking. For chart CDs, I recommend http://www.cd-wow.com/ - any CD from the UK top 75 album chart for 8.99ukp *including* postage. But again, they don't have the Pet Shop Boys rereleases (or didn't last time I checked) because none of them got top 75. > >>> Someone mentioned these last week. Is the 11.99 UKP a new release >>>price? >>> Will it increase if I don't buy now. > >It's more likely to DECREASE than INCREASE! No need to shout, especially when that's not necessarily true. 'Specialist' items, which the PSB CDs can easily be called, might start out in fairly easy supply and cost 11.99ukp-ish, but after a short time they'll stop printing any new copies, and then the shops can charge whatever they feel like charging for them- possibly up to 17.99ukp each. It's only if there's an *excess* of stock of a particular album, which is unlikely in the PSB CDs case, that the price will go down in a shop's attempt to get rid of them. > >In the UK new chart singles start off really cheap (like 99p) This is no longer true either. Very occasionally chart singles are on sale for 1.99 in the first week, but nowadays the standard price in the first week is 2.99. Sadly, the days of 99p new release singles are over. >Albums usually start off at 9.99UKP and stay there, This is also now only true of some independent shops, particularly in London, Manchester or Glasgow where there's a lot of competition so the independent shops charge a lower price (cutting their own throats, a little) in order to attract custom. Around most of the country, you won't find new release chart albums for under 11.99. >however if >you buy your albums from certain shops (i.e. Virgin, Our Price, Andy's >Records, HMV just to name a few) they usually start at about 14.99-15.99 That entirely depends on the album, they don't have a fixed price for new release albums. For example, a list of albums recently released and the price Virgin was asking for them: Zoot Woman - 10.99 Orbital - 11.99 Air - 11.99 Mike Oldfield - 12.99 Hits of Eddy Grant - 9.99 (one week only) And *yes*, this is off the top of my head... > >and drop to 9.99 and then end up in the bargain basement ("3 for a tenor" >and things like that) >. 3 for a TENNER. A 'tenor' is somebody like Luciano Pavarotti. And if you're saying that his albums are worth 3 quid then you're ripping yourself off... Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:50:10 +0200 From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit > I thought it was just bad that she was touring as the "New KLF" > check this page out... > http://www.international-artists.com/klf.html > > pretty scary stuff.. Oh shhhhh.... What does the list think? Maybe EVERYONE should send an email to the people responsible for the page and tell them what's the truth!!! I'll do so and the more people the better. Here's the email addresses: wim@international-artists.com mel@international-artists.com Please don't let Wanda come through with this, okay?!? Thanks, Danny - --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:08:30 +0200 (MEST) From: c-Row@gmx.de Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit > I'll do so and the more people the better. Hehe... already sent my own mail to them before receiving your message on the Mailing List... :-) WeŽll see what happens. Really curious about their answer. cy@ c-Row - -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:27:26 +0200 (MEST) From: c-Row@gmx.de Subject: (klf) Wanda Dee news Just received from International Artists... - ----- Good morning, Everything is delivered by the management from Wanda Dee in the USA. E-mail adress: goddessempire@aol.com Best regards, Jacques Lejeune. - ----- Nice guy, providing us with the direct email adress, isnŽt he ? :-) cy@ c-Row - -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - -- GMX Tipp: Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:37:43 -0000 From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit she writes: "BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward when they decided to collaborate with Wanda as both a lyricist & sensuous centrepiece of their acclaimed video presentations, from 1991 thru 1995." Hahahhehe ehh ehzz... As if Wanda Dee made The KLF famous, pff, moderate underground success... FECKING BOLLOCKS, bitch. The result was a fifteen million selling LP ("The White Room" on Arista/BMG) that scored 6 multi-platinum, international #1 singles that went platinum in 77 countries ("3 AM ETERNAL", "NO MORE TEARS", "WHAT TIME IS LOVE", "LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL", "ALL BOUND FOR MU MU LAND" and "JUSTIFIED & ANCIENT" w/the late legendary First Lady Of Country Music, MISS TAMMY WYNETTE)., AS If she was the result of the multi-platinum sale.... HAHAHhahhehe ehzz erm... Well, what people donŽt do nowadays to get into the spoltlights. Cya, Maarten >From: "Ditch X" > >!!!... God help us all! Looks to me like either the deranged writings of >Wanda Dee herself, or the writings of an equivalently disturbed fan! I >wonder if anything on that page isn't stretching the truth to new lows... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 06:21:59 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit On 19 Jun 2001, at 10:42, Maarten Bouwes wrote: > she writes: > > "BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with > only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward > when they decided to collaborate with Wanda as both a lyricist & sensuous > centrepiece of their acclaimed video presentations, from 1991 thru 1995." > > Hahahhehe ehh ehzz... As if Wanda Dee made The KLF famous, pff, moderate > underground success... FECKING BOLLOCKS, bitch. Can't someone assasinate her? ***king bitch. :D Couple of questions:- 1. Did she write that or is that "International Artists" that wrote it? 2. I notice it says PWL folded when she joined them, is that why? (probably found something to sue them over!) :) 3. Aren't International Artists part of Universal? (and if so what are they doing messing with such a low life?) 4. Is it legal for them to print that bullsh*t? (if not someone inform B&J maybe we can get International Artists and Wanda Dee sued, then maybe B&J could actually use Wanda's name, not that they would actually want to :)) 5. Let's bombard Wanda Dee's mailbox address (anyone got a working e-mail bomb program?). Looks like according to the other e-mail with Wanda's e-mail address ( goddessempire@aol.com ) they've given us more than Wanda's e-maill address 'cos you can also turn AOL addresses into AOL screen names and AOL Instant Messenger names, everyone add goddessempire to there buddy list and really piss her off when she's online by sending nasty messages. (And what about Notify AOL for some reason - doesn't have to be true just make a reason up - "Copyright Infringment" or something like that!) . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:38:01 +0100 (BST) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit > > "BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with > > only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward > > when they decided to collaborate with Wanda as both a lyricist & sensuous > > centrepiece of their acclaimed video presentations, from 1991 thru 1995." > 1. Did she write that or is that "International Artists" that wrote it? Probably her PR/agent wrote it for them. > 4. Is it legal for them to print that bullsh*t? (if not someone inform > B&J maybe we can get International Artists and Wanda Dee sued, > then maybe B&J could actually use Wanda's name, not that they > would actually want to :)) How? There's nothing factually wrong with the statements, although it rather stretches the truth. One could even say that they are just her opinion on actual events, and its not illegal to print opinion (although it is slightly masked here as "fact"). However, it is true to say that when they "collaborated" with Wanda, they had much greater non-"underground success" and "fortune". I'm not sure they'd agree that she was "centrepiece", but again that's just re-representation, not an outright untruth. > 5. Let's bombard Wanda Dee's mailbox address (anyone got a > working e-mail bomb program?). Looks like according to the other > e-mail with Wanda's e-mail address ( goddessempire@aol.com ) > they've given us more than Wanda's e-maill address 'cos you can > also turn AOL addresses into AOL screen names and AOL Instant > Messenger names, everyone add goddessempire to there buddy > list and really piss her off when she's online by sending nasty > messages. (And what about Notify AOL for some reason - doesn't > have to be true just make a reason up - "Copyright Infringment" or > something like that!) Oh please ... why is the typical usual response to such things "LETS MAILBOMB THEM!!!!". Quite what do you think that will achieve? It'll piss her off for sure (or whoever is using that account onher behalf). They'll just use your antics as an excuse to say "look at those mad anarchist klf fans, they obviously have little sense of reality and will perpetrate criminal acts to try and force us to accept their lies and halicinations". Grow up, and deal with this sensibly. Inform those people who print such stuff that it is misrepresentation, that she is rather glorifying her own role, which was limited to some sampled phrases from her previous flops, and guest appearances in videos by means of recompense for the samples. Let the legal representation for Bill and Jimmy know what's going on. Inform and educate within the system. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:56:11 -0000 From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) Wanda Dee/Impostor I just sent an email to the mail address previously given. The mail contained an extract from the faq and some personal thoughts. Hope theyŽll respond to that 26K message :)) Cheers, Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:05:33 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): Re(2): (klf) OT Pet Shop Boys re-releases Darrenforster99@aol.com writes: >I know how to spell tenner but they usually do "3 for a tenor" with it >being a music shop Who does? Never seen that happen in any of the music shops you were actually talking about. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:30:01 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) The Goddess is online Everyone the Goddess (GoddessEmpire aka Wanda Dee) is online! should I chat to her and tell her what a ***king cow she is? . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:31:46 EDT From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) The Goddess is online Everyone the Goddess (GoddessEmpire aka Wanda Dee) is online! should I chat to her and tell her what a ***king cow she is? . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:39:18 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: (klf) The Goddess is online Darrenforster99@aol.com writes: > >Everyone the Goddess (GoddessEmpire aka Wanda Dee) is online! >should I chat to her and tell her what a ***king cow she is? Maybe you should chat to her and mention, in a friendly way, that you're a KLF fan and like all of their work. Then, when she least expects it, point out factually that she was a reason why the KLF *lost* money in royalties, not gained money, as they'd had hits before she got involved. Swearing at her will make her ignore you (or cancel the chat or bar you from messaging her or however the hell it is that AOL works) and won't acheive anything. Stuart. > >. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:56:47 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit > > 5. Let's bombard Wanda Dee's mailbox address (anyone got a > > working e-mail bomb program?). Looks like according to the other > > e-mail with Wanda's e-mail address ( goddessempire@aol.com ) > > they've given us more than Wanda's e-maill address 'cos you can > > Oh please ... why is the typical usual response to such things "LETS > MAILBOMB THEM!!!!". Quite what do you think that will achieve? *claps* dont try to right a wrong with a wrong. besides mailbombs the easy way out. much cleverer things to do than that anyway, if you're so inclined. imho, go after her legally, though i wonder why bill&jimmy havent bothered? surely if there was something to fight over, they'd have already done it? curious, brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:50:11 +1000 From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) OT: Mail and Kids hi all, sorry for the disturbance but i've had two unbelievable things today. 1st. i log on and there's heaps of list mail and its mostly ontopic :-) 2nd. the gf and i are babysitting a 5yo and a 6yo for the night. i must be getting older :-( amazed, brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:33:43 +0100 From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) Wanda Dee takes the credit brendan@sputcorp.com writes: >imho, go after her legally, though i wonder >why bill&jimmy havent bothered? surely if there was something to fight >over, >they'd have already done it? I think this ground has been covered before. Outside of the UK (or possibly outside Europe), Bill & Jimmy do not own exclusive copyright on the name "KLF". If Wanda Dee tours to KLF backing music, pays the PRS or ASCAP or whoever the appropriate rights for performing somebody else's music (as any DJ venue would), then Bill and Jimmy have no legal right to intervene, if she doesn't try doing that in the UK. A web site that contains inaccurate but not libellous information about a person/artist/group is not a legal offence as such, and Bill & Jimmy could lodge a complaint, yes, but a lawsuit, no. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! 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